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| 06:53.51 | morsing | tink044! |
| 06:56.33 | tink044 | Morsing! |
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| 07:19.21 | j0nr | morning all! |
| 07:24.36 | bilarh_ | morning folks |
| 07:29.43 | morsing | j0nr! |
| 07:30.02 | morsing | had an intruder in the house this morning :( Throat still sore from scream ing :-/ |
| 07:31.35 | j0nr | :/ |
| 07:31.39 | j0nr | what happened? |
| 07:33.01 | hali | that sucks, has the police been around yet? |
| 07:33.18 | hali | or did you solve it 'the other way' with a baseball bat? |
| 07:33.38 | bilarh_ | mroe worryingly, is your throat sore from screaming or something else? :S |
| 07:34.03 | bilarh_ | joking aside, what happened? |
| 07:48.23 | morsing | Sorry, back... |
| 07:50.10 | morsing | Well, woken by noises from the kitchen. Probably half panicing, ran down the stairs trying to make as much noise as possible. Came down and more noises, loud consistent noises of someone going through all my stuff! Started screaming and ran towards the back of the house, I think my plan was to scared him off if confronted |
| 07:50.19 | morsing | Turned out to be a bloody cat! |
| 07:50.47 | bilarh_ | hrm |
| 07:50.52 | morsing | Must have slipped in the evening before and been there all night. It was certainly in distress and trying to find a way out |
| 07:51.05 | morsing | Messing up my kitchen |
| 07:51.09 | bilarh_ | it would have been with you running towards it screaming :D |
| 07:51.16 | morsing | Probably |
| 07:51.23 | morsing | I sure needed my cawfy after that! |
| 07:51.33 | morsing | Took me half an hour to get it out |
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| 07:51.44 | morsing | It was sitting in a corner growling at me |
| 07:51.48 | morsing | sabinef72! |
| 08:01.02 | j0nr | hehehhe :D |
| 08:01.12 | j0nr | cat go nuts when scared |
| 08:01.35 | j0nr | i knew a guy who tried to deal with a scared cat and got his arm ripped to shreds as the thing went mental! |
| 08:02.16 | ChoHag | You have to know where to grab them. |
| 08:02.27 | hali | around the balls? |
| 08:02.35 | bilarh_ | suggest grabbing the tail end |
| 08:02.43 | ChoHag | That would probably work but be rather unpleasant. |
| 08:02.52 | ChoHag | The tail's the worst bit to grab. |
| 08:02.56 | ChoHag | That really pisses them off. |
| 08:03.24 | bilarh_ | grabbign the balls doesn't work, the little bastards can get down there with their jaws to lick them, so i'm loathe to think what they'd do to a h and |
| 08:03.27 | hali | hm, strange.. almost feels like i work for the government today... i should slack way more |
| 08:03.38 | bilarh_ | unless it was a particularly dirty cat, in which case you might be ok |
| 08:04.51 | j0nr | so what did you do.. open the door? I'm suprised the thing didnt dash out as soon as you moved out the room |
| 08:09.41 | morsing | j0nr: Tried to get it towards the front door but it wouldn't move at all. Closed the door to the back lounge and left it five minutes. Cam edown again and opened the door to the garden which was about 4' from it. Still wouldn't move. |
| 08:10.02 | j0nr | stupid cat |
| 08:10.03 | morsing | It was hiding behind a table so in the end, and I know this always get cats moving... |
| 08:10.22 | bilarh_ | mustard? :S |
| 08:10.29 | hali | was just gonna say that :) |
| 08:10.30 | j0nr | water |
| 08:10.35 | morsing | I grabbed a T-shirt and launched it over the table, where the cat couldn't see it, so it dropped down on it from the top |
| 08:10.43 | j0nr | oh |
| 08:10.44 | morsing | Cat FLEW out the door! |
| 08:10.49 | morsing | :D |
| 08:10.58 | j0nr | that well known anti-cat trick |
| 08:11.00 | j0nr | ;) |
| 08:11.18 | morsing | j0nr: That trick has never failed me... |
| 08:11.19 | bilarh_ | ingenious :D |
| 08:11.29 | bilarh_ | morsing: how many times have you used it?? |
| 08:11.39 | morsing | 4-5 times probably - never, ever fails |
| 08:12.24 | j0nr | i'll remember that one |
| 08:12.40 | j0nr | isn't it quite specific to the cat-under-table situation |
| 08:12.41 | j0nr | ? |
| 08:13.02 | morsing | j0nr: Well, you must be able to throw it without the cat seeing it being thrown |
| 08:14.11 | j0nr | i see |
| 08:14.33 | j0nr | i would have chucked water at it |
| 08:14.45 | morsing | More messy |
| 08:14.48 | j0nr | true |
| 08:15.15 | morsing | j0nr: When did I fit the Holley to my car? |
| 08:15.53 | j0nr | err no idea |
| 08:16.05 | j0nr | wonders why he would know... |
| 08:16.44 | j0nr | a friend of mine won a web domain name. but it came with no space, can you just buy web space and allocate the name to it? |
| 08:16.59 | j0nr | or he already owns a bit of space with a different domain...can he use that? |
| 08:17.15 | morsing | j0nr: Yes |
| 08:18.00 | j0nr | morsing: on the chevelle? |
| 08:18.18 | morsing | Ahh!! Just realised something... That explains a lot |
| 08:20.09 | morsing | No it doesn't - wait... Odd |
| 08:20.52 | j0nr | huh? |
| 08:21.39 | morsing | My terminal speed has dropped by 2mph but I can't find a reasonable explanation why |
| 08:22.42 | Leeds | j0nr: won a name??? |
| 08:23.35 | j0nr | yeah. a competition or something. won the domain name |
| 08:23.51 | j0nr | tyre pressure? |
| 08:23.54 | morsing | So effectively he won £2 |
| 08:23.57 | j0nr | morsing: ^ |
| 08:24.03 | morsing | j0nr: No - new tyred |
| 08:24.07 | morsing | tyres |
| 08:24.13 | morsing | And that woulnd't affect speed |
| 08:24.22 | j0nr | yeah, well whatever, can he use the space he already has and point the domain name at it? |
| 08:24.26 | morsing | Yes |
| 08:24.31 | j0nr | if they were low it would create more drag |
| 08:24.36 | morsing | Is it randomname.com? |
| 08:24.40 | j0nr | lower economy |
| 08:24.44 | morsing | ... |
| 08:24.48 | j0nr | no it is finnish |
| 08:24.57 | morsing | yksi.fi |
| 08:25.06 | morsing | ? |
| 08:25.11 | j0nr | nope |
| 08:25.18 | morsing | kaksi.fi? |
| 08:25.34 | j0nr | nope |
| 08:25.41 | morsing | hmm... |
| 08:26.53 | j0nr | more head wind |
| 08:26.58 | j0nr | crap batch of fuel |
| 08:27.05 | j0nr | different ambient temps |
| 08:27.39 | morsing | But it would affect both equally I think |
| 08:28.48 | bilarh_ | morsing: tyre pressure would affect terminal, too low pressure would give you increased roll resistance |
| 08:29.13 | bilarh_ | but as j0nr points out, 2mph is nothing anyway, it could be down to driver error, temperature, moisture etc etc |
| 08:29.23 | morsing | Hmmm... I replaced my old crap tyres for drag radials and ran them at 17psi. Might be one reason |
| 08:29.32 | morsing | Erm... 2mph is a lot |
| 08:29.40 | morsing | And it's a symptom |
| 08:29.41 | bilarh_ | unless you were consistenly doing x mph and then all of a sudden you started doing x-2 mph i wouldn't worry |
| 08:30.03 | bilarh_ | you could easily lose that with one slightly fluffed gearchange, or a slightly fluffed start etc |
| 08:30.41 | morsing | Exactly. Earlier this year I did consistent 15.2/91, changed tyres and adjusted A/F and now get consistent 15.3/89. Even when I ran a 15.0 I still only got 91 which isn't right |
| 08:30.54 | morsing | Gear changes are 100% consistent |
| 08:30.59 | bilarh_ | automatic? |
| 08:31.14 | morsing | Off course - no sane person races with a manual |
| 08:31.29 | bilarh_ | apart from all the ricers of course :) |
| 08:31.39 | bilarh_ | apart from low powered supras :) |
| 08:32.04 | bilarh_ | what engine are you running out of interest? |
| 08:32.15 | morsing | bilarh_: Actually, it was two different strips and I've been told one goes slightly down and the other slightly up but I can't remember which. Still think it should affect ET and speed consistently |
| 08:32.16 | bilarh_ | i've really got the hots for a mid-80's camaro at the moment :D |
| 08:32.34 | bilarh_ | a z280 |
| 08:32.37 | bilarh_ | z28, even |
| 08:32.48 | morsing | I've got a crappy '73 350. No time or money to improve it at the moment. |
| 08:32.59 | bilarh_ | a 350 is still a 350 |
| 08:33.08 | bilarh_ | sounds better than an inline 4 :) |
| 08:33.08 | morsing | Next step it spending £1300 on new heads and a retrofit roller cam |
| 08:33.17 | bilarh_ | hmm |
| 08:33.21 | cpufreak | bilarh_: buy my CSL. |
| 08:33.27 | morsing | Will get around 350BHP out of that I hope |
| 08:33.29 | bilarh_ | cpufreak: no i've got enough cars :) |
| 08:33.37 | cpufreak | buy it. |
| 08:33.38 | cpufreak | :) |
| 08:33.53 | bilarh_ | cpufreak: i need to build a multistorey car park in my back yard if i do |
| 08:33.53 | morsing | And be in the 13s if only I can get the tyres to grip |
| 08:34.03 | bilarh_ | cpufreak: how comes youre getting rid? |
| 08:34.23 | cpufreak | because I'm probably moving to a different continent quite soon |
| 08:34.33 | Leeds | which one? |
| 08:34.34 | bilarh_ | cpufreak: ah nice one :) |
| 08:34.41 | cpufreak | and will end up with a 427 cubic inch v8 when I arrive there. |
| 08:34.47 | Leeds | ah, US? |
| 08:34.49 | bilarh_ | cpufreak: i'm too old for a csl anyway... I'm still marvelling at how comfortable my 471 quid saab 9000 is :D |
| 08:34.57 | cpufreak | :) |
| 08:35.05 | cpufreak | My CSL is nice and comfortable now |
| 08:35.12 | bilarh_ | cpufreak: a viper per chance? |
| 08:35.16 | Leeds | happily has no car |
| 08:35.31 | cpufreak | has new seats (Recaro Pro Racer SPG), and suspension (Intrax 4 way adjustable coilovers) |
| 08:35.42 | bilarh_ | thinks leeds doesn't know what he's missing... insane servicing costs, depreciation, parking, taxes, speed fines etc |
| 08:35.45 | cpufreak | oh wait, comfortable isn't the word I'm looking for. umm. |
| 08:35.47 | cpufreak | :) |
| 08:35.51 | morsing | Vipers never came with 427s? |
| 08:35.53 | cpufreak | that said its pretty good on the road |
| 08:35.57 | cpufreak | bilarh_: corvette |
| 08:36.07 | bilarh_ | cpufreak: ah nice, one of my favourites :) |
| 08:36.08 | Leeds | I *had* a car, when I lived in London |
| 08:36.11 | morsing | No car I've ever owned has depreciated in value |
| 08:36.21 | bilarh_ | out of my price range at the moment, though |
| 08:36.31 | cpufreak | my CSL has stayed pretty much even-stevens since I bought it |
| 08:36.34 | j0nr | i want a v8 |
| 08:36.40 | j0nr | any one will do for now |
| 08:36.45 | j0nr | or even a 6 |
| 08:36.50 | cpufreak | paid 30K 2 years, and 30k Miles ago, and had two offers for 29K. |
| 08:36.51 | bilarh_ | cpufreak: tell you what, buy my impreza and bring it over and all the rice-boys will think you've got a jdm spec machine and the kidz will love you long time |
| 08:36.55 | cpufreak | j0nr: buy my car. |
| 08:36.57 | j0nr | ive never owned more than 4 cylinders |
| 08:37.03 | j0nr | cpufreak: skint |
| 08:37.12 | bilarh_ | j0nr: i've got 8 cylinders, but unfortunately they're split over two cars :( |
| 08:37.36 | j0nr | well i have 12 cylinders at the mo... |
| 08:37.36 | cpufreak | http://badger.ing.me.uk/csl3/sm/9d5g2975.jpg |
| 08:37.44 | j0nr | split over 3 :P |
| 08:37.49 | cpufreak | http://badger.ing.me.uk/csl3/sm/9d5g2973.jpg |
| 08:37.54 | j0nr | but only 4 work |
| 08:38.00 | morsing | had 18 cylinders at some point :D |
| 08:38.12 | bilarh_ | that is a gorgeous looking car... the only bmw i'd have, apart from possibly an m5 |
| 08:38.23 | bilarh_ | j0nr: also split over three? :D |
| 08:38.40 | bilarh_ | cpufreak: how much are you looking for anyway? |
| 08:38.43 | cpufreak | 29K |
| 08:38.52 | j0nr | eek |
| 08:38.54 | j0nr | one day |
| 08:38.55 | bilarh_ | cpufreak: jesus christ, is that how much they still go for? |
| 08:39.00 | cpufreak | yeh |
| 08:39.04 | cpufreak | pretty much |
| 08:39.12 | cpufreak | I mean there are shagged ones for about 25K |
| 08:39.15 | bilarh_ | impressive lack of depreciation |
| 08:39.29 | cpufreak | but mine's not shagged.. I worked out how much I spent on it in the last 2 years. |
| 08:39.35 | j0nr | i always fancied an e36 m3 |
| 08:39.37 | cpufreak | It was more than the price it cost when new :( |
| 08:39.41 | cpufreak | j0nr: I just sold mine |
| 08:39.53 | cpufreak | I had an E36 M3 GT racecar. |
| 08:40.01 | j0nr | nice |
| 08:40.03 | j0nr | you must be rich |
| 08:40.05 | cpufreak | no |
| 08:40.14 | j0nr | a crook? |
| 08:40.15 | bilarh_ | dedicated :) |
| 08:40.16 | cpufreak | I just prioritise cars over food and stuff |
| 08:40.17 | cpufreak | no |
| 08:40.23 | j0nr | still rich |
| 08:40.23 | j0nr | ! |
| 08:40.27 | cpufreak | nah |
| 08:41.14 | bilarh_ | i'm thinking of selling up too, but at the moment i'd probably get like 6-7k, and that's less than i've spent on mods in the last two years so i'm keeping it as long as i can |
| 08:41.30 | bilarh_ | unless i take my redundancy package here and bum about for a couple of months in which case it's going either way |
| 08:41.48 | cpufreak | http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3114/2868480416_f6861a7173_b.jpg |
| 08:41.54 | cpufreak | at my race engineer's base nr nurburg... |
| 08:42.05 | cpufreak | he's normally a dozen or so CSLs, and a bunch of other M3s there |
| 08:42.06 | cpufreak | ;) |
| 08:42.44 | j0nr | git |
| 08:44.42 | j0nr | so how do you use existing web space with a new domain name? |
| 08:48.13 | Leeds | you just point the name as the server |
| 08:48.15 | Leeds | at |
| 08:48.35 | Leeds | where is the existing web space? |
| 08:52.04 | j0nr | im not sure 'where' it is... it belongs to someone in finland... so i dont know how or where it is hosted |
| 08:52.49 | j0nr | i dont know how to make it point at the existing server. |
| 08:52.59 | j0nr | ive only ever bought a domain already with space |
| 08:53.48 | Leeds | so this is a *great* chance to learn how this stuff actually works |
| 08:59.00 | j0nr | indeed! |
| 08:59.16 | j0nr | and i want to learn, believe me |
| 08:59.55 | j0nr | is it a case of he should have some sort of log in details with his new domain name that he can go into some sort of control panel and set up a "location of server" |
| 08:59.58 | j0nr | :-/ |
| 09:00.03 | j0nr | brb tea break |
| 09:01.58 | bilarh_ | wtf, am i losing the plot here? what happened to check_nrpe in nagios? |
| 09:02.11 | bilarh_ | i can't find it in the nagios tar or the nagios-plugins either |
| 09:02.36 | bilarh_ | ah it's int eh addons package |
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| 09:09.10 | j0nr | yeah so is it something along the lines of what i said! |
| 09:09.17 | j0nr | sorry meant ^ not ! |
| 09:09.26 | bilarh_ | j0nr: kind of |
| 09:09.48 | bilarh_ | j0nr: essentially, you'll probably have some way of pointing the domain name at an ip address (probably through a "control panel" interface) |
| 09:09.53 | bilarh_ | point that ip to your web servers IP |
| 09:10.12 | bilarh_ | if your web server is *not* running virtual hosts, this will work |
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| 09:10.33 | bilarh_ | if, however, you are running virtual hosts you need to modify your web server config to understand your new domain name as well and what to do with it |
| 09:11.32 | j0nr | so how do i find out the ip address of the web server? |
| 09:12.33 | bilarh_ | hrm, either log in to it or do a ping www.yourdomain.com |
| 09:14.35 | j0nr | ok got the ip |
| 09:14.52 | j0nr | will that be constant? |
| 09:15.00 | j0nr | static i mean |
| 09:16.55 | j0nr | ok i think it is |
| 09:16.59 | bilarh_ | yep it sould |
| 09:17.01 | bilarh_ | should |
| 09:17.15 | bilarh_ | depending on how your web server is set up, it might just work out of the box |
| 09:17.58 | bilarh_ | otherwise, as i said, you need to get the sysadmin on the other side to either set up a new virtual host for you (so that your new domain has it's own web site), or to set up an alias for your existing domain (so that your new domain takes you to your existing page) |
| 09:19.31 | j0nr | is this so that the existing one isnt lost? |
| 09:19.39 | j0nr | so that both can share the web space? |
| 09:19.52 | bilarh_ | well, no |
| 09:19.56 | bilarh_ | the existing one will work regardless |
| 09:20.46 | j0nr | what would you see if you logged in with an ftp client to upload new stuff? i mean if they both look at the same ip address? |
| 09:20.48 | bilarh_ | essentially, if your web server is set up to use "virtual hosting" you can have several sites running on one IP address, and in that case the browser passes the domain name as part of the get request (i.e. the browser connects to the web server and says soemthing along "give me the index.html on www.thisdomain.com") |
| 09:21.17 | j0nr | am getting confused... i picture a 'web space' which somehow has two directory structures one for each domain] |
| 09:21.35 | bilarh_ | and then the server would look at the www.thisdomain.com part and say "ah, thisdomain.com lives in /var/www/vhosts/thisdomain.com, i'll serve the client /var/www/vhosts/thisdomain.com/index.html") |
| 09:21.41 | bilarh_ | yeah exactly |
| 09:21.44 | Leeds | j0nr: that doesn't really matter - what matters is how the server is setup to map directories to sites |
| 09:22.04 | j0nr | ok... |
| 09:22.20 | bilarh_ | but, if you have the virtual hosting scenario above, you have to tell the web server to understand that newdomain.com is actually the same as thisdomain.com, if you see what i mean |
| 09:22.55 | bilarh_ | or a different directory, if you want a completely new site |
| 09:24.06 | j0nr | two different sites, sharing the same web space |
| 09:24.23 | bilarh_ | so you want the two domains to serve up exactly the same pages? |
| 09:26.13 | j0nr | no sorry. current situ: guy owns one existing domain, which has x storgae space. bought a second domain and wants to use some of the space he already owns from the first site, but it will be different stuff on it. |
| 09:26.51 | j0nr | am i making sense? |
| 09:27.07 | Leeds | depends a lot on what the existing storage space actually is |
| 09:27.19 | Leeds | but he probably can't use it - would be my guess |
| 09:27.55 | j0nr | but what about what bilarh_ said? about pointing the new domain at the exieting server ip |
| 09:28.09 | j0nr | its just a location for the files called up when someone goes to www.newdomain.com |
| 09:28.14 | j0nr | isnt it? |
| 09:29.01 | hali | depeneds on the hosting provider |
| 09:29.26 | j0nr | like it could be a simple redirect... ie when someone goes to www.newdomain.com it just sends them onto www.olddomain.com/newdirectory |
| 09:29.32 | j0nr | but that would look crap due to the address |
| 09:29.52 | j0nr | unfortunately the host's site is in finnish :) |
| 09:30.30 | bilarh_ | i grok finnish |
| 09:30.40 | bilarh_ | i would hazard a guess that having a separate virtual host is a cost option, though |
| 09:30.56 | Leeds | j0nr: you need to point it at somewhere which knows it's hosting the domain |
| 09:31.40 | j0nr | ok... first step then is to get logged into the control panel and see whats there |
| 09:36.38 | morsing | Beer |
| 09:40.05 | hali | j0nr: or he could switch to a vps and just DIY it |
| 09:48.52 | j0nr | over my head hali :) |
| 09:52.35 | morsing | Beer |
| 10:01.39 | j0nr | is it just me or does anyone else have a habit of trying to complete all sorts of words with tab... |
| 10:13.36 | bilarh_ | i do it for options on the command line all the time |
| 10:14.19 | bilarh_ | and i try to do it with nicks in irssi too, but it doesn't work (well, not in the default config, at least) |
| 10:14.22 | bilarh_ | bring back bitchX |
| 10:14.52 | Leeds | bilarh_: you mean you use extended bash completion, I assume? |
| 10:15.09 | bilarh_ | yeah well, i try, but it doesn't work because i haven't set that up either :) |
| 10:15.18 | bilarh_ | is too lazy, honestly |
| 10:15.37 | bilarh_ | it always seemed really slow when i did bother to set it up as well |
| 10:15.47 | bilarh_ | iirc |
| 10:16.00 | Leeds | ah, you know what you need... |
| 10:16.04 | bilarh_ | actually, when i say "bother to set it up", i mean running the default gentoo config :P |
| 10:16.22 | bilarh_ | a dose of "get on with it"? |
| 10:16.26 | Leeds | a faster computer! |
| 10:17.00 | bilarh_ | yeah a dual xeon 5150 doesn't quite cut it anymore :( |
| 10:17.36 | bilarh_ | who'd have thought that some 30 years after sh, we'd need a bloody beowulf to run bash :) |
| 10:18.41 | Leeds | do they even call them beowulfs any more? |
| 10:19.07 | bilarh_ | i don't know |
| 10:19.16 | bilarh_ | i'm a bit long in the tooth, don't forget :) |
| 10:19.46 | Leeds | my point exactly... |
| 11:18.16 | j0nr | i meant for completing normal words.. like wheni am typing this sentance sometimes i find myself wanting to tab big words |
| 11:18.21 | j0nr | anyway... |
| 11:19.15 | j0nr | soooo... where do i start to see if i can get this new domain working off the existing domain server? |
| 11:30.53 | j0nr | weird. I can access the control panel but it doesnt seem to have any controls. it pretty much just says, yes you own this domain. |
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| 11:53.00 | morsing | Leeds! |
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| 13:18.05 | mindbendr | hi |
| 13:35.04 | morsing | mindbendr! |
| 13:35.05 | morsing | dick_turpin! |
| 13:35.07 | morsing | catalyst! |
| 13:35.19 | catalyst | hies <3 |
| 13:36.42 | dick_turpin | :-) |
| 13:37.53 | bilarh_ | dick_turpin! |
| 13:38.14 | bilarh_ | dick_turpin: have you recovered from my leaving to yet? |
| 13:39.54 | dick_turpin | bilarh_: Sort of |
| 13:39.56 | dick_turpin | brb |
| 14:09.04 | boudiccas | here's dick_turpin |
| 14:09.22 | DiscordianUK | re |
| 14:10.18 | boudiccas | anyone want a throat infection? going free |
| 14:10.27 | DiscordianUK | is still stuck in london |
| 14:10.33 | DiscordianUK | no ta |
| 14:11.03 | boudiccas | what are you doing in london DiscordianUK ? job interview? |
| 14:11.21 | DiscordianUK | i've some dreadful stomach bug |
| 14:11.37 | DiscordianUK | that made last night sheer hell |
| 14:11.43 | boudiccas | and you can keep it too :) my throat infection is bad enough |
| 14:12.11 | DiscordianUK | i shall be going to west yorks wednesday now |
| 14:12.16 | boudiccas | ah right |
| 14:12.32 | boudiccas | assuming you're fit enough by then, hopefully |
| 14:12.40 | DiscordianUK | yeah |
| 14:14.07 | DiscordianUK | 5 hour bus ride |
| 14:14.36 | boudiccas | and that isn't good with a gyppy tummy |
| 14:15.00 | DiscordianUK | the coach has a loo but no |
| 14:15.33 | DiscordianUK | i'm planning to just look out the window a lot |
| 14:15.50 | boudiccas | my expereince of those loos is not good, you tend to get thrown around quite a bit in it and if you dont keep the motion senser activated the light goes out |
| 14:16.24 | DiscordianUK | i'll try and avoid using it |
| 14:16.36 | DiscordianUK | shame i can't afford the train |
| 14:17.14 | boudiccas | yes theyre a lot better than coaches for long trips, but i do find that the coaches are very relaxing |
| 14:17.30 | boudiccas | just sit and watch the scenery go by |
| 14:17.47 | DiscordianUK | i'm gonna take my pda and some tunes on my sd card |
| 14:18.10 | DiscordianUK | and perhaps some ebooks |
| 14:18.28 | DiscordianUK | but i quite like watching out the window |
| 14:19.14 | boudiccas | be wary of victoria coach station, its always crammed with people and their luggage |
| 14:19.42 | DiscordianUK | yeah i know |
| 14:20.06 | DiscordianUK | i used to do the oxford tube coach in my student days |
| 14:21.26 | DiscordianUK | admittedly i was a lot more spritely back then |
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| 14:50.18 | dick_turpin | boudiccas: Sorry about that got dragged away |
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| 14:52.19 | morsing | konadr! |
| 14:52.33 | konadr | howdy! |
| 14:54.00 | boudiccas | dick_turpin; well you can just drag yourself back here and cheer me up, as i'm ill with a throat infection :( |
| 14:56.10 | dick_turpin | boudiccas: Ooh you need to suck a fishermans friend or rub good old Vic on your chest ;-) |
| 14:56.39 | boudiccas | neither will work, they're both just placebos |
| 14:56.54 | boudiccas | just need to drink plenty of fluids and keep warm |
| 14:58.44 | dick_turpin | boudiccas: Bloody hell you must be ill you didn't pick up on my typical Double Entrende. Or was that deliberate? |
| 15:01.07 | boudiccas | i am ill |
| 15:01.56 | dick_turpin | boudiccas: I s'pose I could come round and pump ya full of vitamins :-) |
| 15:02.35 | boudiccas | thay wouldnt help, they didnt help stop me getting the infection so they wont help in getting rid of it |
| 15:02.57 | boudiccas | i'm sorry that i'm so negative but i'm in pain/discomfort |
| 15:03.42 | boudiccas | my throat hurts,every time i swallow it feels like i'm swallowing crushed glass |
| 15:04.02 | dick_turpin | boudiccas: I enjoy speaking to you whatever your condition ;-) |
| 15:04.21 | boudiccas | thank you for the vote of confidence |
| 15:04.58 | dick_turpin | boudiccas: Mind you while your defences are down I could...... crap still married :-( |
| 15:08.41 | boudiccas | teehee |
| 15:08.44 | dick_turpin | bilarh_: :-P |
| 15:09.25 | dick_turpin | boudiccas: So what you been up to them rolling in that wet grass again? |
| 15:09.30 | dick_turpin | then |
| 15:09.49 | boudiccas | no, just staying indoors being a nerd |
| 15:10.08 | boudiccas | or is it a geek, i forget |
| 15:10.39 | dick_turpin | boudiccas: spooky, you caught the lergy all on your own |
| 15:11.23 | boudiccas | i obviously picked it up from someone in town on friday when i went shopping, and its been incubating all weekend |
| 15:12.08 | dick_turpin | boudiccas: What have I told you about rubbing up against strange people |
| 15:12.32 | boudiccas | sorry sir, i wont do it again |
| 15:12.50 | boudiccas | but everyone is strange too |
| 15:14.09 | dick_turpin | boudiccas: You'll be in breach of your restraining order "At least 10FT from anyone or anything" |
| 15:15.20 | boudiccas | shush, we dont talk about my asbo |
| 15:19.08 | bilarh_ | dick_turpin? |
| 15:19.46 | dick_turpin | boudiccas: What happened with that job (Part Time Council I think) |
| 15:19.56 | dick_turpin | bilarh_: You fat swede :-) |
| 15:20.11 | bilarh_ | is mr blobby |
| 15:21.03 | dick_turpin | bilarh_: I got dragged away earlier, can you believe it the bloody Director wanted me to work. Sheesh I don't come here to graft all day |
| 15:21.18 | bilarh_ | dick_turpin: how dare he |
| 15:22.44 | dick_turpin | bilarh_: I know can you credit it |
| 15:24.29 | boudiccas | dick_turpin; i didnt get it, two people were interviewed and one lost out, me :(((( |
| 15:25.49 | dick_turpin | boudiccas: Bastards! Want me and bilarh_ to go round and put the windows through? |
| 15:27.05 | boudiccas | nah, too long ago |
| 15:27.37 | boudiccas | i just need to learn mail-merge on winblows. if i'd known that i'd have got the job |
| 15:27.52 | bilarh_ | fucking rpm |
| 15:27.56 | bilarh_ | hates on rpm |
| 15:28.08 | dick_turpin | boudiccas: You should have lied then use google like all the sysadmins do |
| 15:28.29 | dick_turpin | bilarh_: rpm hates you too |
| 15:28.45 | boudiccas | i said that i could learn it easily, but obviosuly the other candidate knew it |
| 15:29.14 | mindbendr | rpm is ace. |
| 15:29.15 | bilarh_ | mail-merge on windows |
| 15:29.18 | boudiccas | but i've now got a laptop with winblows on it so i can learn it there |
| 15:29.18 | bilarh_ | wtf does that even mean? |
| 15:29.35 | bilarh_ | mindbendr: yeah i know, i'm just trying to build a nice .spec here |
| 15:29.44 | mindbendr | bilarh_: oh I can't argue about it then |
| 15:29.59 | mindbendr | bilarh_: I'm quite surprised that people put the spec files into source tarballs nowadays |
| 15:30.05 | mindbendr | I've found out that on rsync |
| 15:30.08 | mindbendr | quite surprising |
| 15:30.15 | mindbendr | wtf does mail-merge mean btw? |
| 15:30.39 | boudiccas | bilarh_; it means that you merge an excell database with word to get a nice setup of peoples names and addresses on their respective letters. at least thats hwta i think it odes |
| 15:30.43 | boudiccas | *does |
| 15:31.29 | dick_turpin | boudiccas: I still say you should've said "Tut mail merge? Can do that in my sleep" "Object embedding is much more fun" that would have shook em |
| 15:32.04 | boudiccas | they were shook up when i said that i could build a computer from scratch |
| 15:32.26 | boudiccas | but i still couldnt do mail-merge |
| 15:32.45 | dick_turpin | boudiccas: Oh I get it the old "Over qualified" excuse ay? |
| 15:33.02 | dick_turpin | boudiccas: But its easy |
| 15:33.07 | boudiccas | more than likely. and it turns out that it was only for 6 months the job was |
| 15:33.17 | ChoHag | An architect doesn't need to know how to lay bricks. |
| 15:33.48 | bilarh_ | mindbendr: that's what i'm doing too, it's really nice IMO to have it all in one place |
| 15:33.55 | boudiccas | they were after a p/t secretary not a sysadmin type person |
| 15:34.33 | mindbendr | boudiccas: do what? |
| 15:34.43 | mindbendr | ops |
| 15:34.43 | boudiccas | in hindsight i'm glad that i didnt get it, because they didnt even know what the pay scale would be for the post |
| 15:34.47 | mindbendr | bilarh_: cool |
| 15:35.07 | mindbendr | but this mail merge think sounds quite simple |
| 15:35.31 | boudiccas | i just need to google it and find a good tutorial for mail-merge i reckon |
| 15:35.39 | dick_turpin | It is but its best done with a database |
| 15:35.45 | ChoHag | It's sed, basically. |
| 15:36.03 | boudiccas | and, afaik, the databse has to be in excel |
| 15:36.08 | boudiccas | *database |
| 15:36.14 | mindbendr | the hard thing is explaining the IT managers why Outlook IMAP doesn't work with `download everything` with 1500 folders and 20mb attachments |
| 15:36.34 | dick_turpin | boudiccas: No, anything dbase, foxpro yadder yadder yadder |
| 15:36.55 | boudiccas | oh, right |
| 15:37.08 | boudiccas | means that i may have to learn some access stuff then :( |
| 15:37.20 | dick_turpin | boudiccas: simplisticaly you can use Excell or even Note pad |
| 15:37.50 | boudiccas | i'll stick with excel, i know it better than access |
| 15:38.25 | antiphase | Take your filthy Windows chat elsewhere, you heathens! |
| 15:38.30 | dick_turpin | boudiccas: What version of office have you got? |
| 15:38.49 | dick_turpin | antiphase: Ah shut up misery guts :-) |
| 15:38.51 | boudiccas | hmmm, the one before the latest i think |
| 15:38.59 | dick_turpin | boudiccas: 2003 |
| 15:39.07 | boudiccas | yes, that sounds about right |
| 15:39.31 | dick_turpin | go on 'help'-->'about' it will tell you |
| 15:40.02 | boudiccas | rightto, but it will have to wait till i'm more up to it than atm |
| 15:43.01 | dick_turpin | boudiccas: In 2007 its dead easy "Start mail merge" (Select type) "Select recipients" (Select your excel sheet) Bobs your uncle Fannnies your aunt :-) |
| 15:43.55 | dick_turpin | Fannies |
| 15:44.02 | catalyst | Teehee |
| 15:44.12 | catalyst | giggles like a little schoolgirl |
| 15:44.13 | boudiccas | its that simple? |
| 15:44.47 | boudiccas | i must set one up for my christmas card list and have a play with it then |
| 15:45.30 | dick_turpin | Yeah, typical sysadmin type person you have to make something simple sound complicated to keep the peasants at bay |
| 15:45.59 | bilarh_ | l8rs folks |
| 15:46.09 | catalyst | I've never had this problem with C++ dick ;) |
| 15:46.11 | catalyst | cya bilarh_ o/ |
| 15:46.34 | dick_turpin | bilarh_: Before you go is there anything left lubricant tube |
| 15:46.50 | boudiccas | use ky its water-soluble |
| 15:47.16 | boudiccas | as is installgel, but thats for a different purpose |
| 15:51.32 | mindbendr | lubricant for what |
| 15:51.43 | dick_turpin | boudiccas: Ah I saw some of that at bilarh_'s leaving do |
| 15:51.51 | boudiccas | catheterising male patients |
| 15:52.03 | boudiccas | with a urinary catheter |
| 15:52.04 | mindbendr | puzzled |
| 15:52.52 | mindbendr | that's gross |
| 15:53.03 | boudiccas | thats real life for a nurse |
| 15:53.23 | mindbendr | it's gross for the patient |
| 15:53.24 | mindbendr | not for the nurse. |
| 15:53.25 | dick_turpin | And for some clubs bilarh_ and I attend ;-) |
| 15:53.32 | boudiccas | not if thats the only way they can pee |
| 15:53.55 | mindbendr | uh |
| 15:54.06 | mindbendr | even it feels terrible to imagine |
| 15:54.19 | mindbendr | god bless my dick. |
| 15:54.39 | dick_turpin | boudiccas: Bring back the umbrella treatment for certain social deseases I say |
| 15:54.39 | boudiccas | the patient feels no pain when theyre being catheterised, its completely pain free and just feels a bit 'odd' |
| 15:54.53 | mindbendr | boudiccas: how the hell do you know |
| 15:54.59 | boudiccas | what umbrella treatment? |
| 15:55.01 | mindbendr | are you a nurse?? |
| 15:55.09 | boudiccas | mindbendr; because i used to be a nurse |
| 15:55.12 | mindbendr | uh |
| 15:55.17 | mindbendr | runs away |
| 15:55.40 | dick_turpin | boudiccas: And she still looks good in the outfit |
| 15:56.02 | boudiccas | no, i cant get into my uniform now, i've put on too much weight |
| 15:57.13 | mindbendr | it'd be nice to have uniforms for sysadmins |
| 15:57.31 | mindbendr | then i wouldn't have to worry about what to wear |
| 15:57.34 | dick_turpin | they have they are called straight jackets |
| 15:57.55 | mindbendr | straight jackets? how does it look like |
| 15:58.02 | boudiccas | you dont want to go down that route, that leads to a self-regulating body which you have to pay through the nose for |
| 15:58.12 | mindbendr | I know some ppl wear leather |
| 15:58.40 | mindbendr | boudiccas: who? |
| 15:58.59 | boudiccas | mindbendr; what do you mean by saying 'who'? |
| 15:59.14 | mindbendr | boudiccas: what do you mean by `you don't want to go down that route` |
| 15:59.26 | mindbendr | was that to me |
| 15:59.27 | dick_turpin | http://www.thenewcity.info/images/straight_jacket.bmp |
| 15:59.30 | mindbendr | i couldn't figure out |
| 15:59.57 | mindbendr | dick_turpin: awesome |
| 16:00.07 | boudiccas | nursing went down that route and ended up with a body called the 'UKNMC' which every nurse registered had to pay over £120 per annum for |
| 16:00.17 | boudiccas | if you didnt pay then you couldnt work as a nurse |
| 16:00.51 | boudiccas | and only qualified nurses could register, so health care assistants couldnt join |
| 16:01.14 | mindbendr | i wouldn't want an assistant to put a pipe into my penis |
| 16:01.17 | mindbendr | so that sounds good to me. |
| 16:01.26 | mindbendr | at least it needs to be expert or RHCE |
| 16:01.49 | boudiccas | mindbendr; i could catherterise you and i can guarantee you wouldnt feel any pain |
| 16:02.16 | dick_turpin | rotflmao |
| 16:02.33 | boudiccas | but, thats all in the past now and those skills and non-transferable to civvy street |
| 16:02.43 | boudiccas | *are |
| 16:03.08 | dick_turpin | boudiccas: Apart from the privacy of your own home and a consenting adult ;-) |
| 16:03.11 | mindbendr | boudiccas: that feels comfortable but I have heard another stories about using a lever for pumping anesthesia |
| 16:03.49 | mindbendr | boudiccas: one of my mates had to do it to his mate |
| 16:03.57 | boudiccas | mindbendr; i've never heard of that, but anasthesia is a specialist field very few nurses are involved with |
| 16:04.02 | mindbendr | boudiccas: as he was assisting to the doctor |
| 16:04.22 | mindbendr | boudiccas: what you are saying is |
| 16:04.37 | mindbendr | boudiccas: you could do it without causing any pain and without the usage of anesthesia |
| 16:04.54 | mindbendr | boudiccas: all I can say you were born with the skills |
| 16:04.58 | boudiccas | you're still talking about catherterisation right? |
| 16:05.06 | mindbendr | yep |
| 16:05.34 | boudiccas | mindbendr; the lubricant gel contains a mild anaesthetic as part of its formulation |
| 16:05.48 | boudiccas | so its not done without any anasthetic |
| 16:06.07 | mindbendr | boudiccas: you sound like you like doing that stuff lol |
| 16:06.21 | mindbendr | boudiccas: have you got issues with the men, do you really hate us |
| 16:06.59 | mindbendr | you won't be able to convince me, NOO I'm not going to get my stuff catherterised |
| 16:07.01 | boudiccas | mindbendr; it was part of my 'extended role' as a staff nurse, and no, i have no issues with men :) |
| 16:07.34 | mindbendr | boudiccas: I will ask your advice if I have any peeing issue sometime :p |
| 16:07.38 | mindbendr | it's good to have nurses around. |
| 16:07.55 | boudiccas | not every staff nurse can catheterise male patients, its part of the 'extended role' for those who can |
| 16:08.15 | boudiccas | anyway, thats all in the past now |
| 16:08.33 | boudiccas | time to get tea on the go |
| 16:09.57 | mindbendr | the only thing I've seen about getting catherised in a way |
| 16:10.03 | mindbendr | was at American Pie |
| 16:10.06 | mindbendr | the movie./ |
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| 16:41.46 | hali | bilarh_: i've now migrated one of our test webservices systems to plankton (the v880) .. it purrs like a cat |
| 16:48.29 | mindbendr | later |
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