IRC log for #gllug on 20080926

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05:04.14morsingLeeds!
05:26.52morsing\o/
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07:33.03morsingStephmw!
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07:51.32morsingsabinef72!
07:53.02ChoHagI was looking at the 65 bus route from the other day (065.htm) so I changed it to 411.htm to view the local bus.
07:53.07ChoHagIt went to 141.htm
07:53.19morsingBeer
07:53.36ChoHagSo then I changed it to 641.htm which I happen to know is the same-ish bus route on school journeys. It took me to 614.htm.
07:56.03morsingChoHag: More cawfy?
07:56.56LeedsChoHag: someone probably set up a redirect from 41 to 14 but screwed up the regex :-)
07:57.20Leedsq.v. cisco.com
08:04.52bilarhouch, hsbc 500 jobs gone in canary wharf
08:05.41bilarhjesus christ, apparently hsbc employ 335000 people
08:05.45Leedsonly 1000 worldwide, pretty insignificant
08:05.52bilarhyeah considering
08:05.57bilarhbut bad for london
08:06.10bilarhand i bet you this is the first of many rounds
08:06.16morsingbilarh: Cawfy?
08:06.16ChoHagSo now the market is saturated with mediocrity?
08:06.27bilarhch0hag: yep, pretty much
08:06.32bilarhmorsing: sure
08:06.47Leedsbilarh: in 2000-2001 it was the turn of tech... now it's the turn of banking, and banks are much bigger companies
08:06.48bilarhserves morsing up a hot cup of cawfee. Want m1lk with that?
08:07.08morsingNo thanks! I still have Scandinavian roots! But thanks for the cawfy
08:11.55bilarhso?
08:12.06bilarhmy grand parents always had milk in her coffee
08:12.12morsingHow odd
08:12.13bilarhbut they were finnish, i suppose
08:13.04morsingIn my whole life, I've only ever met one dane who put anything in their cawfy. My late uncle used to put a bit of sugar in his. Never heard of anyone putting milk in their cawfy
08:13.27bilarhgoes to show, don't put anything in your coffee
08:13.31bilarhit's bad for you :)
08:13.35morsing:)
08:13.37boudiccasmorsing; now you're british, you have to learn to say and write ... coffee
08:13.43morsingboudiccas: !!
08:13.59bilarhmorsing: oh, and you hire a VAN, not a WAN
08:30.32morsingbilarh: Why did Stephmw leave?
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08:31.04Leedsconsiders aversion therapy for morsing
08:31.07morsingStephmw!
08:31.21bilarhconsiders a bullet :)
08:31.34bilarh^^^ joke
08:31.36bilarh:)
08:32.04LeedsI think you can get arrested nowadays for saying things like that...
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08:32.14bilarhit's crazy, isn't it
08:37.01morsingLeeds: Do you remember the Simpsons episode where Lisa sings outside the power plant during a protest?
08:37.13Leedsof course
08:37.53morsingRight after that, Lenny plays something that was recently used on "Frasier" as well. Do you know what it is?
08:39.28morsing?
08:40.17morsingbilarh: We've lost Leeds
08:41.42LeedsLenny plays it or Lisa does?
08:41.52morsingOh I think I found it
08:41.57morsinghttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Classical_Gas
08:42.02morsingThat's the one
08:42.07morsingLisa play's it, you're right
08:42.49morsinghttp://www.simpsoncrazy.com/scripts/last-exit.php
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08:45.15morsingmindbendr!
08:45.21morsingLeeds?
08:49.49Leedsah, it's in The Dish as well
08:50.32morsing?
08:50.39morsingThe Dish?
08:50.44j0nrhello!
08:50.49morsingj0nr!
08:51.16j0nrmorsing!
08:51.44morsingj0nr: Leeds is a bit random today
08:52.23Leedsyes, The Dish
08:52.47morsing...
08:55.51mindbendrmorning
08:56.45morsingmindbendr: More cawfy, Vicky?
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09:12.21morsingblight!
09:13.06Leeds"Comeback for Krypton Factor quiz " - yay!
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09:17.33morsingStephmw!
09:23.15j0nrthe dish?
09:23.27morsingj0nr: Leeds is odd today
09:23.36j0nrpor quoi?
09:23.41morsingNo idea
09:23.45morsingToo much sun?
09:23.59j0nrwhat sun... is he in another country?
09:24.30morsingj0nr: You're joking, right?¬
09:25.03j0nrI havent seen much sun recently
09:25.10morsing*sigh*
09:25.20morsingSome peoples ignorance and indifference
09:25.25morsingpeoples'
09:33.00Leedsbilarh: apparently 100 of the HSBC jobs going are in HK
09:33.13Leedsj0nr: I'm in a very different country
09:33.50bilarhleeds: ah only 100... on the radio this mornign they said 500
09:33.57bilarhbut then it seems to change daily
09:34.01bilarhdepending on who you ask
09:34.26Leeds500 in the UK, maybe, 100 in HK, 1000 worldwide
09:35.20bilarhoh HK
09:35.25bilarhi'm not wearing my glasses :)
09:35.35halithats nothing when considering the size of hsbc
09:35.48halithey have 65.000 people in NY alone :)
09:35.55haliNY+NJ
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09:45.22morsingmikejw!
09:45.34mikejwmorning morsing :D
09:45.38mikejwhow are things?
09:45.54morsingmikejw: Do you know anything about IVM? And FSP?
09:46.00morsingGreat! :D
09:46.06morsingHow are you?
09:46.32mindbendrmorsing: what's that mean?
09:46.38mikejwpretty good thanks :)
09:46.45morsing?  I'm concerned about his well-being
09:46.46mikejwI'm starting to get into yoga
09:46.55morsingCool ... Not Salsa?
09:47.15mikejwno.. maybe Samba one day though :0]
09:48.16morsingmindbendr: Integrated Virtualisation Manager and Flexible Service Processor
09:48.35mindbendrmorsing: no the cawfy / vicky thing
09:48.39mindbendri meant
09:49.24morsingmindbendr: God knows - I had a colleague a while ago that would randomly say "More cawfy, Vicky" to me. Never figured out what he meant
09:49.24mindbendrand for IVM thing, if you can explain what's that exactly I might have an idea
09:49.39mindbendrcawfy must be coffee
09:49.56mindbendrso it should be a rhyme that cheers him/her up
09:50.06morsingmindbendr: It can do the basics of the HMC directly connecting to the VIO server. Only really useful if you don't have an HMC
09:50.25mindbendrand the HMC is?
09:50.29morsingmindbendr: I was looking at this problem:
09:50.31morsinghttp://rootvg.net/index.php?option=com_smf&Itemid=91&topic=343.0
09:50.31mikejwcoffee rhymes with Vicky?
09:50.43mindbendrcawfy works for the the rhyme
09:50.50morsingIf you don't know what an HMC is I'm not going to waste more time :)
09:51.20mindbendrmorsing: may be I just don't the contraction :)
09:51.36morsingmindbendr: ??
09:51.43mindbendrhardware management console?
09:51.46morsingmindbendr: I think this is what he meant:
09:51.47morsinghttp://uk.answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20060904121741AALx46j
09:51.51morsingmindbendr: Yes
09:52.01morsing"It's to cover up an embarrassing faux pas. A diversionary question..
09:52.02morsingAlways makes me laugh when I hear it. Conjures up a lovely picture...."
09:52.10mikejwFancy a quickie Vicky?
09:52.15mikejwthat rhymes
09:52.20morsingThis is it:
09:52.21morsing"I have heard it used after someone burps
09:52.21morsingIt goes something like this....
09:52.21morsingMore tea vicar? might as well you had all the cakes!!!
09:52.22morsingIt's all done in the best possible taste....
09:52.24morsing"
09:52.31morsingHe would always say it when I burped
10:01.11morsingmindbendr: Fixed it yet?
10:01.26mindbendrfixed what
10:01.55morsingmindbendr: The question you asked about above?!
10:02.03morsing10:50 < morsing> http://rootvg.net/index.php?option=com_smf&Itemid=91&topic=343.0
10:02.07mindbendrah
10:02.18kjsany of you guys using SugerCMS ?
10:02.22mindbendrI will have a look, now the backup software here is giving me a hard time
10:02.22morsingkjs: No
10:02.57kjsahh its friday \0/
10:03.06morsingkjs: Why's Kerry ignoring me?
10:03.53kjswhos kerry?
10:04.01morsingkjs: My ex-stalker
10:04.14morsingWho's now ignoring me, funnily enough
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10:04.24morsingAfter I texted her a question
10:04.26morsingBlapto!
10:04.38morsingOr, rather, a statement
10:05.01Blaptomorsing: I knew you were going to say that
10:05.21morsingNice
10:07.20wethrinWas the statement "Stop stalking me"?
10:07.27morsingNo
10:07.39morsingQuite the opposite in fact.
10:07.52morsingwethrin: And I already told you what it was?
10:08.01morsingA couple of weeks ago
10:08.08wethrinDid you?
10:08.15morsingYes...
10:10.05kjskerry's are bad new ime
10:10.08kjsnews
10:10.28morsingI agree
10:20.36mikejwKerrys as in girls?
10:20.57morsingYes
10:21.02mikejwhmm
10:21.13morsingWhy?
10:22.02mikejwit wasn't clear that's all
10:22.14morsinghmm...
10:22.39morsingWell, kjs' mis-placed ' didn't help I suppose
10:26.47mikejwnot really
10:27.54morsingsneezes on mikejw
10:30.34morsingHow can you tell if an Interflora order has been delivered?
10:31.01wethrinYou get a message saying "Thank you", or "Stop stalkign me!!!"
10:32.26morsing:)))
10:32.29morsingVery funny ;)
10:33.16wethrinIn more seriousness, though, unless Interflora does order tracking, you can't tell that the order's been delivered, unless the recipient lets you know
10:33.53Leedswho the fsck uses interflora?
10:34.02morsingLeeds: You recommended it
10:36.55LeedsI tend to use a combination of Internet and telephone nowadays
10:37.03morsingOMG
10:37.32morsingLeeds: Excuse me for being direct but you have a pretty dumb day today
10:38.24Leedspubtime
10:38.42mikejwwtf is Interflora?
10:38.48morsingYeah - kill som emore braincells
10:38.55morsingsome more
10:40.50wethrinmikejw: Flower delivery
10:40.59mikejwright makes sense
10:41.34morsingWell, they're the worlds largest network (and it is a network - not a distributor) of gifts, flowers, chocolate, baloons, presents etc
10:41.35xteddysmiles
10:41.53wethrinAnd you can put your orders in online :)
10:41.53mikejwis finding it hard to sympathise when he has his own Kerry based issues
10:41.54morsingThey utilise independant shops to do it and can deliver anywhere in the world
10:42.15morsingmikejw: OMG - this is NOT for Kerry!!
10:42.20wethrinputs morsing in the sinbin for using the word 'utilise', when 'use' will do
10:42.26morsingBeer
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10:42.32wethrinNo, no beer in the sinbin
10:42.40mikejwlol
10:43.47morsingwethrin: No text yet :(((
10:45.49morsing:'(
10:50.25cpufreak<PROTECTED>
10:51.54morsing<PROTECTED>
11:31.15mindbendris there any reason not to run some critical services like dns,dhcp on a virtual machine
11:31.30mindbendrif you don't have any performance issues
11:31.40Blaptolast reboot is showing this:
11:31.40Blaptoreboot   system boot  2.6.18-58.el5.jt Sat Sep 27 07:03          (-19:-32)  
11:31.41BlaptoAny ideas?
11:31.41mindbendr(vm is XEN)
11:31.59mindbendrBlapto: what's that?
11:32.12Blaptolast reboot is meant to show when the reboot user logged in last
11:32.19BlaptoAnd I've got a date in the future
11:32.22mindbendrhmm
11:32.53mindbendrdo you use it actively?
11:35.16mindbendrmay be the date was wrong
11:35.20mindbendrand updated with ntp?
11:36.42Blaptontp is working fine on this network
11:36.46morsingBeer
11:38.45BlaptoI'll blame the hardware clock
11:38.52morsingCawfy
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11:48.47morsingboudiccas!
12:02.38mindbendrBlapto: I'd check whether is the hw clock part of ntp config
12:04.01mindbendrand change its stratum to something stupid hehe
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15:27.54mindbendrmorsing: do these HMC of IBM support any kind of file system or just the partitions?
15:40.23morsingmindbendr: Neither. You're misunderstanding what it is
15:40.29morsing:)
15:50.39wethrinmorsing: I hope you're on your way!
16:01.44Blaptohttp://creativity-online.com/work/view?seed=349ffa2b SFW
16:09.40morsingTraffic :(
16:17.56mindbendrmorsing: it says it does http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IBM_Hardware_Management_Console
16:18.14mindbendr# Configure and manage logical partitions and partition profiles
16:18.25mindbendrThe HMC is a Linux kernel using Busybox to provide the base utilities and X Window using the Fluxbox window manager to provide graphical logins. The HMC also utilizes Java applications to provide additional functionality.
16:31.44morsingmindbendr: You're misunderstanding what it does and what a partition is
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17:02.27halimost used command of the day: racadm serveraction powercycle
17:02.34haliargh
17:11.33mindbendrhave a good weekend all
18:23.33Nafallohttps://launchpad.net/+builds
18:23.38Nafallothat ought to be enough for a while
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