IRC log for #gllug on 20080909

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02:39.06DiscordianUKboggles
02:41.32Leedspictionary's
02:44.53DiscordianUKi really give up on #centos
06:26.57gregj-ukyawns
06:26.57xteddysmiles and fetches fresh coffee
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06:43.21Leedsgregj-uk: afternoon
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07:36.43morsingsabinef72!
07:36.46morsingmuks!
07:36.51morsingLeeds!
07:51.23zaargmorning
07:51.59mukshi morsing
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08:15.08morsingStephmw!
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08:20.12morsingblight!
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08:23.52mindbendrmornign
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08:31.25morsingBlapto!
08:31.31morsingmindbendr!
08:31.37Blaptowethrin!
08:32.17morsingBlapto: Shhh... He's asleep
08:32.22BlaptoWAKEUP
08:32.29morsingPIE
08:32.31AndyMillarhmm, this laptop decided to crash when I put the lid down :(
08:32.36BlaptoYou can't have breakfast pie
08:32.49BlaptoAndyMillar: don't put the lid down.
08:32.50halimmmm.... cheese
08:32.58AndyMillarBlapto: that's a very windows approach to the problem
08:33.41AndyMillarhow would I go about diagnosing *why* it hung?
08:33.44AndyMillari know when it did it
08:33.45Blaptodmesg
08:33.52Blaptolook in /var/log/messages
08:33.55AndyMillardmesg isn't any use after a reboot
08:34.09BlaptoOK, var log messages it is then
08:34.25Blaptoperhaps sysstat if you have it set up
08:35.27mindbendrAndyMillar: acpi?
08:36.53AndyMillaralso, ubuntu's hobbit init script is fucked
08:37.04morsingBeer
08:37.26AndyMillarmindbendr: what about it? :(
08:37.36zaarghobbits?!
08:38.10mindbendrAndyMillar, is acpid running?
08:38.47AndyMillar# ps faux | grep acpid
08:38.47AndyMillarroot        50  0.0  0.0      0     0 ?        S<   09:28   0:00  \_ [kacpid]
08:38.47AndyMillarroot      4946  0.0  0.0   2456  1352 ?        Ss   09:28   0:00 /usr/sbin/acpid -c /etc/acpi/events -s /var/run/acpid.socket
08:38.50AndyMillar111       5741  0.0  0.0   2204   908 ?        S    09:28   0:00      \_ hald-addon-acpi: listening on acpid socket /var/run/acpid.socket
08:38.51mindbendrmay be /etc/acpi/events
08:38.53AndyMillaryes
08:38.58mindbendryou should check
08:39.15mindbendrif it's gnome, then gnome-power-manager
08:39.57AndyMillarit's set to "blank screen" on all events in gnome-power-manager
08:40.35AndyMillarand when i lifted the lid this morning, the screen came on, but the laptop was unresponsive (no keyboard/mouse movement)
08:40.37mindbendris it one of the latest gnome?
08:40.54AndyMillaryes
08:40.58mindbendrgnome power manager is not the best in one of its kind
08:41.14mindbendrbut it's working on my laptop, centos 5.2
08:41.25AndyMillari'm using ubuntu hardy :(
08:41.47mindbendranyting useful ant etc/acpi/events ?
08:42.11mindbendr# ACPID config to power down machine if powerbutton is pressed, but only if
08:42.11mindbendr# no gnome-power-manager is running
08:42.29mindbendrmay be you can use acpid configs instead of gnome power manager
08:43.25AndyMillarhttp://paste.hashphp.com/p/m532a323a is what i've got
08:43.37AndyMillarand this is a compaq 6910p
08:44.14AndyMillarhmm, lidbtn
08:45.12AndyMillarall that seems to do is turn off the screensaver and blank the screen
08:46.40mindbendrAndyMillar: disabling gnome power manager and restarting acpid might help
08:47.33mindbendror just kill gnome power manager :) it seems it just checks the processes with ps
08:48.49AndyMillarinvestigates
08:51.48AndyMillarwell, it survived 1min or so
08:51.53AndyMillari shall wait till later to test
08:52.14AndyMillar(properly)
08:52.26mindbendrwhat did survive?
08:52.32mindbendrthe process?
08:56.32morsingCawfy
08:57.07zaarghttp://zemljanka.sourceforge.net/cursed/
08:57.35zaarghooray
08:57.38AndyMillarthe laptop
08:58.47AndyMillarand awesome
09:00.58Blaptozaarg: does that work?
09:02.04zaargjust testing out now
09:08.46mindbendrit's a little bit old though
09:08.50mindbendr2003!
09:10.09BlaptoYes
09:10.20BlaptoBut if you could run GIMP over it, that would be rather impressive
09:10.39mindbendrhttp://virtual.itg.uiuc.edu/data/
09:10.40BlaptoIf a little useless
09:27.32wethrinBlapto!
09:36.11BlaptoYou're awake!
09:36.19wethrinJust about!
09:36.46morsingPIE
09:37.29Stephmwstarts considering the Three £10/1GB/month PAYG mobile broadband package...
09:38.02wethrinEww, Three
09:39.19Stephmwwethrin, compares favourably with Voda @ £20/month
09:39.50wethrinYes, but it's Three
09:43.27muksStephmw: ping?
09:44.50Stephmwmuks, pong!
09:44.56Stephmwmuks, how goes?
09:47.06muksStephmw: a friend invited me to stay with him in london
09:48.20muksi'm booking tickets to fly next weekend
09:48.59Stephmwgreat, so you'll be staying at his pad then?
09:56.42Blaptohttp://www.henden.co.uk/busback.jpg
09:57.51antiphaseLooks like a late-model Leyland Olympian
09:58.14Blaptocareful attention to the exhaust pipe
10:11.56morsingBlapto: Do you still love me?
10:12.28Blaptomorsing: did I ever?
10:12.37morsingI hope so? :(
10:14.59Stephmwwethrin, even better, 3's sim-only option can be used for data too... at £10 it's not a huge expense to try
10:15.38morsingStephmw: Why's Blapto ignoring me?
10:18.06BlaptoHmm
10:18.24BlaptoI can't find a straight answer as to whether or not I can run windows as a guest on an Intel Pentium 4 system
10:18.50muksStephmw: sorry lost power.. yes i'll be staying at his place. again no idea if any of this will change :)
10:21.13Stephmwmuks, ok, worst case I find a flatshare and you can bunk on the sofa ;)
10:22.16muksStephmw: that'd be lovely :) i hope you find a flatshare soon
10:22.24BlaptoStephmw: where are you looking to live?
10:22.34BlaptoOr did we already talk about the docklands and you moving there?
10:23.11Stephmwthat's the one
10:23.14StephmwI've moved in now
10:24.40BlaptoAh, OK
10:24.47BlaptoToo near to the DC!
10:26.50Stephmwhaha :)
10:26.57Stephmw15min walk to the tube
10:27.17Stephmwwethrin, ok, ordered we'll see how it goes
10:28.19wethrinack
10:28.23morsingsyn
10:28.33wethrinRST
10:28.51morsingFIN_WAIT
10:33.24morsingwethrin: What's for lunch?
10:34.38wethrinSandwich
10:34.43morsingCheese?
10:34.53morsingWhat's Jenny having?
10:35.33wethrinEnough with the silly questions!
10:35.54morsing?
10:36.01morsingNot cheese then I'm guessing
10:36.08wethrinThere is cheese in the sandwich
10:36.13morsingYay! :D
10:37.18BlaptoCheddar
10:42.08wethrinStilton FTW!
10:42.22wethrinTesco Finest Mature Blue Stilton is still quite disappointing, though
10:42.28Blaptowethrin: have you seen my mature blue vein?
10:42.40wethrinneeds to go down to the market on Saturday
10:42.42wethrinUmm.
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11:53.15morsingLeeds!
11:53.16morsingsabinef72!
11:55.00sabinef72Julie played with the mousse....
11:55.06sabinef72and killed my xchat !
11:55.13sabinef72amazing
11:55.19sabinef72my daughter is a geekette !
11:55.47morsing!!
12:00.44mukssabinef72: she's well on her way to learning X :)
12:01.02muks(like the way to learn a new language is to learn all the bad words first)
12:03.27sabinef72she is not talking except "mummy"
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12:06.28morsingpawel!
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14:28.35Stephmwwethrin, it works fine with VPN and remote desktop
14:40.06morsingStephmw!
14:40.11morsingmuks!
15:22.55zaarghow come so many people in here share the same nick colour? nick_color.pl sucks!
15:23.04zaargas you were.
15:26.40wethrinI have standard grey for normal nicks, and yellow for hilighted nicks
15:36.35zaarghumph, you're mr. purple, and the others are the cyan people.
15:39.56boudiccassabinef72; have you ever noticed that parents spend ages teaching their child to talk, and then spend the next fifteen years or so, telling them to shut up? :)))))
15:48.44morsingTea
15:49.17boudiccasnoodles
15:49.44Leedstea, I think
15:49.51boudiccasdoes this mean then morsing that you're actually beginning to like drinking tea then? somehow i doubt it :)
15:50.56morsingI love it!
15:51.07Leedshmm, lack of breakfast tea, may need emergency 7-11 trip
15:51.08morsingboudiccas: They offered me tea at the ceremony
15:52.05Leedsthe ultimate test :-)
15:52.16boudiccasand did you accept their offer and drink it with good grace?
15:52.16morsingdeclined
15:52.19morsingNo
15:52.26morsingI had instant cawfy instead
15:52.30wethrinInstant!?
15:52.34morsing:D
15:52.35wethrinShame on you!
15:52.39boudiccashah, right, so we've still got to work on your 'britihsness' then
15:52.47morsingbah
15:54.13morsingTime for me nap
15:55.28boudiccasand thats another thing, we dont have naps/siestas, theyre foreign to us, we just keep workign through the day
15:55.58morsingI could make a comment...
15:58.36boudiccasits never stopped you before ;)
16:06.46morsing...
16:28.51sabinef72boudiccas: funny !
16:29.23boudiccaswww.newlaunches.com/archives/4500_lego_people_create_their_own_olympics.php
16:29.39boudiccasoh you mean about telling kids to shut up :)
16:29.43sabinef72yes
16:29.50sabinef72so true
17:01.23mindbendroff
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17:35.31morsingStephmw!
17:38.27Stephmwhmmm, interesting. Three customers are banned from DALnet
17:48.01ChoHagPlease help me.
17:48.05ChoHagI am bored enough to consider learning ed.
17:48.14boudiccasn
17:49.00morsingj
17:49.04morsingChoHag: Beer
17:51.57ChoHagI don't drink.
17:52.01ChoHagOtherwise a damn fine plan.
17:57.46morsing?!?!?!?
17:57.50morsingIv'e seen you drink
17:58.05morsingYou had a coke at Bletchley Park
18:02.09ChoHagLong time ago.
18:02.18boudiccasbletchley park has just been on the radio, a seeminglu funny comedy at 1830 on a tuesday night on radio 4
18:02.24boudiccas*seemingly
18:03.02ChoHagNot any more.
18:03.11ChoHagI can't compile gnash on powerpc.
18:03.19ChoHagMy wife may have to stick with OSX :(
18:03.35boudiccasits just finished, and i dont find it funny, a total waste of space and air time
18:03.53morsingboudiccas: Like most radio
18:04.14boudiccasno, just some
18:08.14morsingFrasier
18:14.01z00daxChoHag: what distro ?
18:14.07ChoHagDebian.
18:14.14z00daxand what is the problem ?
18:14.25z00daxI've got gnash - recentish ver, running on the ps3 anad on the g5
18:14.30ChoHagThe build error?
18:14.33z00daxja
18:14.36ChoHagAbout 50 lines of c++ spewage.
18:14.50z00daxcomplain on the debian-ppc list, loudly
18:14.55z00daxthen move to using Fedora :d
18:16.23ChoHagI might try upgrading to lenny.
18:16.32ChoHagIt seems a bit heavy-handed though for one package.
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18:37.23morsingStephmw!
18:39.15z00daxChoHag: well, try and see why gnash does not build
18:39.32z00daxperhaps it needs a newer ver of a lib than you have installed ? or some header files are missing etc
18:39.47z00daxalso, i'd have thunk someone had a .deb for it
18:40.13ChoHagYeah - libc.
18:41.58ChoHagTo get the lenny version I need to upgrade half the system and remove the other half.
18:42.57z00daxsounds like a lot of work
18:43.36ChoHagNot really, I can let apt do it.
18:43.47ChoHagBut I don't fancy upgrading the entire system just for one package.
18:44.07z00daxbackport it ?
18:44.17ChoHagThat's where the build fails.
18:47.00ChoHagI think I'll just go to lenny. It'll be out in a few years anyway.
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