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| 08:02.07 | etorix | morsing : You pathetic glob of fly-covered rat boogers! |
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| 18:45.23 | hali | where do people buy pc compnents online these days? |
| 18:45.27 | hali | components* |
| 18:45.37 | hali | ebuyer? |
| 18:45.49 | DiscordianUK | or scam |
| 18:46.19 | hali | is browsing scam as we speak |
| 18:46.45 | hali | hum 1.5Tb drives :S |
| 18:47.05 | hali | and it's cheap |
| 18:47.07 | hali | only 130 quid |
| 18:47.12 | DiscordianUK | 1.5tb is a lot of data tolose if it fails |
| 18:47.21 | hali | true |
| 18:47.56 | DiscordianUK | 1.5Tb drives are too new |
| 18:49.43 | hali | seek times are quite high for new drives too |
| 18:49.52 | hali | 9+ms |
| 18:50.15 | DiscordianUK | that's like multi gb disks were originally |
| 19:18.18 | kraptv | hi |
| 19:18.24 | kraptv | does anyone here have freesat? |
| 19:18.55 | DiscordianUK | i do freeview under linux |
| 19:19.05 | DiscordianUK | DVB-T not DVB-S |
| 19:19.18 | kraptv | do you like it? |
| 19:19.35 | DiscordianUK | It works perfectly for me |
| 19:19.56 | DiscordianUK | is watching telly using kaffeine at the moment |
| 19:20.53 | DiscordianUK | FreeSat and Freeview mostly have the same stuff |
| 19:21.04 | kraptv | freesat is hdtv, though, right? |
| 19:21.36 | kraptv | wife wants to get some sort of superdeluxe Sky+ setup and I am trying to evaluate the options |
| 19:21.39 | DiscordianUK | They're also trialing hdtv on freeview |
| 19:22.26 | DiscordianUK | depends what you need really |
| 19:25.24 | kraptv | Yeah... do you pay the telly tax with your linux setup? (you do not have to answer that question) |
| 19:25.51 | DiscordianUK | the telly tax is payable |
| 19:26.03 | DiscordianUK | my license expires in november |
| 19:27.04 | DiscordianUK | I have tellys too but this is better if I'm ircing |
| 19:33.20 | wethrin | You need to pay the TV licence if you have any equipment that can receive and decode broadcast TV signals |
| 19:33.38 | DiscordianUK | indeed |
| 19:33.54 | DiscordianUK | 'is capable of' |
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| 20:25.40 | z00dax | wethrin: so iplayer is watchable with no tv license |
| 20:26.57 | wethrin | Legally, yes. |
| 20:27.12 | wethrin | morally, you probably ought to give the BBC some money |
| 20:27.18 | z00dax | someone was making a point that its not |
| 20:27.36 | wethrin | How could they track it? |
| 20:27.49 | z00dax | eg, content is not viewable from outside the uk |
| 20:28.01 | wethrin | Indeed. GeoIP things work okay |
| 20:28.03 | z00dax | i guess they check via ip |
| 20:28.09 | DiscordianUK | reading the act i can't see why it needs a license |
| 20:28.35 | DiscordianUK | it's geo restricted because of licensing of content |
| 20:28.42 | wethrin | But there's no big database of which IP address(es) are assigned to which households |
| 20:29.05 | wethrin | Which is the only way they could enforce requiring a TV licence for iPlayer |
| 20:29.13 | z00dax | ight |
| 20:29.14 | z00dax | right |
| 20:29.26 | ChoHag | I'm willing to bet there will be. |
| 20:30.02 | DiscordianUK | no doubt in time |
| 20:30.10 | z00dax | i'd guess they rely on some d/b somewhere though, eg, if i poxy through a hosted dedicated machine in level3, i get a 'only available in the uk ' message |
| 20:30.37 | z00dax | ChoHag: but i could be tunneling, through another vpn over to some other place |
| 20:30.42 | wethrin | There's GeoIP |
| 20:30.45 | DiscordianUK | yeah they use some geoip stuff |
| 20:30.55 | z00dax | wethrin: yes, but level3 is also in london |
| 20:31.35 | wethrin | iPlayer does some neat tricks, AIUI - some form of p2p |
| 20:31.52 | z00dax | eg, 6over4 is hard to track down. its doable, but hard |
| 20:31.54 | DiscordianUK | I can't recall what they use but I remember doing GeoIP on a server I built for them |
| 20:33.15 | antiphase | Most people aren't in a position where they have remote machinery to proxy for them |
| 20:33.28 | antiphase | So it's pointless trying to prevent casual circumventers |
| 20:34.02 | z00dax | antiphase: true, i stumbled upon this accidently, since i was on a proxy via that machine for some other stuff, and went to iplayer. took me a few minutes to realise what was going on |
| 20:35.30 | DiscordianUK | iplayer on linux streams flv |
| 20:35.30 | z00dax | i wonder what the state of claws mail is these days, if its even worth looking at again as an option to thunderbird |
| 20:35.37 | DiscordianUK | what was sylpheed? |
| 20:36.26 | z00dax | they forked away from each other a while back |
| 20:38.45 | DiscordianUK | yean |
| 20:38.48 | DiscordianUK | yeah |
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| 21:21.58 | morsing | Nahuel! |
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| 22:01.57 | eye69 | morsing! |
| 22:04.54 | eye69 | Well, I'm off to sleep a bit... |
| 22:06.32 | morsing | :( |
| 22:06.45 | morsing | So am I |
| 22:06.48 | morsing | G'night |
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