IRC log for #gllug on 20080815

02:34.39morsingcpufreak!
03:07.36*** join/#gllug Leeds (n=richardc@awork064158.netvigator.com)
03:07.50morsingLeeds!
03:08.07Leedsshouldn't you be asleep?
03:08.48morsingWoke up - Ate too much before going to bed I think. Also thinking...
03:11.18boudiccasbad habit that thinking, especially in the wee hours
03:12.16morsingWell, can't help it now that I'm awake
03:12.51boudiccashave a hot drink and see if that helps you get back to sleep, it normally does with me
03:13.07morsingNo, have eaten too much
03:13.25boudiccasthat shouildnt preclude you from having a drink now
03:13.30morsingYes
03:14.26boudiccasso, sarah smokes then does she?
03:14.46morsingWell, yeah, but not much and I think she can quit. Has done it before
03:15.21boudiccasits best not to start, but if you have then its better to stop, beofre you get a smoking related disease/illness
03:15.31morsingRight
03:16.49boudiccasthis cuppa soup is rather nice and morish
03:18.17LeedsI ate way too much yesterday
03:19.09Leedsand assuming I can believe her on it, Irene's gone from 'a couple of fags a week' to 'none' in the past 6 months or so
03:19.40morsingLeeds: Well, Sarah went from having been hiding it from me to 5 a day
03:19.47morsingA bit annoyed with that
03:20.24Leedshow long did she hide it for?
03:20.46morsing13 days
03:21.46Leedshmm... not so terrible then... if it was longer, I'd say it might be a dealbreaker for me
03:21.55morsing???
03:21.59morsingThe other way
03:22.14morsingIf I'd known I wouldn't even have started seeing her
03:22.32morsingNow we're in a relationship... I'll have to learn to live with it
03:22.49morsingOr convince her to stop which she's happy to do
03:23.34boudiccasright, time for bed said zebedee. and you know what? he was right
03:23.43morsingIf you say so
03:26.25Leedsor break things off
03:26.40morsingHaha :) No... Don't be silly
03:26.59Leedsnot silly
03:27.03morsingYou are
03:28.21Leedswell, maybe, but it's not silly to break things off over something like that
03:28.29morsingRight, bedtime. G'night
03:29.14Leedsnight
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06:50.08rhowetries to get himself invited to Berlin
06:51.39Leedsany particular reason?
06:51.58rhoweWell, I've never been and it's supposed to be nice
06:52.11rhoweand Yan is going there for a few days for Railsconf Europe
06:52.23rhowebut she'll have a couple of days free afterwards
06:52.35rhoweSo I'm trying to get myself invited along :)
07:13.17LeedsI'm looking at hotels in Macau - need to get out of town for a night or two
07:14.49Leedsfound an interesting-looking place, a hotel in a tourism school, run by the students, about 55 quid a night for a double, b&b, and no taxes because it's government-run
07:15.29Leedsgot very positive reviews on tripadvisor
07:15.41rhowecool
07:16.35rhowewonders if he's going to join the (rather short, I suspect) list of people who've pulled at tech meets in London
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07:48.26morsingsabinef72!
08:08.56zaargmorning
08:10.43morsingzaarg!
08:10.59zaargSTFU!
08:24.07gregjLeeds: !
08:24.14gregjmorning folks
08:28.46Leedshey gregj :-)
08:30.17morsinggregj!
08:38.09kjsEvening
08:39.13kjsAnyone know much about WoL ?
08:39.28LeedsI've tried to use it once or twice and failed...
08:40.01kjsI need to wake up all the laptops / pcs on my subnet to do an antivirus scan with nod at like 22:00
08:40.36kjsI love these jobs i get given...
08:42.21gregjmorsing: :]
08:42.30gregjLeeds: any news from your friend ?
08:42.56Leedsshort answer: he doesn't really know anything, but he'll pass the message on
08:45.32gregj:/
08:50.08morsingkjs!
08:55.15kjsmorsing!
08:56.17morsingI should go to the gym
08:58.02gregjLeeds: that sux to be honest, I'll probably ask on blug than
09:00.02morsingBeer
09:03.48morsing3:30h drive to Plymouth
09:14.16wethrinkjs: Virus scanners normally have some facility to wake a computer up for a scan
09:21.02kjswethrin: ahh ok, maybe ill give them a call
09:44.52AndyMillarrhowe: it's possible to pull at tech meets?
09:47.04wethrinAndyMillar: There have been rumours of one or two women being seen at tech meets around the country
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10:22.23morsingBlapto!
10:35.11Blaptomorsing!
10:50.08AndyMillarwethrin: shocking
11:37.14kraptvBeThere connectivity finally online, hooray!
12:18.43morsingBeer
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12:39.41morsingBlapto!
12:41.29Blaptomorsing!
12:41.36BlaptoWe must stop meeting like this!
12:41.40morsingNice
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13:16.22morsingdick_turpin!
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13:45.04morsingBeer
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16:06.13ChoHag-rw------- 1 mking mking 4.9G 2008-08-15 17:05 core.7304
16:07.05wethrinrm IYF
16:07.14wethrinIs that Firefox, by any chance?
16:07.22ChoHagNext best thing - Galeon.
16:07.32wethrinThat's also Gecko-based, isn't it?
16:07.33ChoHagAnd I have far too many windows with far too many tabs.
16:07.36ChoHagIt is.
16:07.43wethrinJust remember, it's a feature
16:07.48ChoHagVertically arranged tabs is both a blessing and a curse.
16:07.56ChoHagBookmarks? pah.
16:07.59wethrinBecause the developers can't be arsed to work out how to save memory
16:09.08ChoHagWhy'd they need that? It's not like anyone will want to run it on oh, say, embedded hardware.
16:09.31wethrinOf course not. That's why Opera's popular on small hardware
16:09.45wethrinBecause, well, it's not shit if you have < 2 TB of RAM
16:10.50ChoHagUnfortunately all web browsers are shit, regardless of RAM.
16:11.04wethrinWell, that's true
16:11.05ChoHagExcept maybe netscape 2.
16:11.09ChoHagOr was it 3?
16:11.14wethrinNo, that was rubbish too
16:13.16ChoHagOh. Right.
16:13.30ChoHagWell I was only a wee one, so I probably thought suckage was normal.
16:13.53wethrinWell, all software sucks.
16:14.59ChoHagIndeed. Hence http://hates-software.com/
16:15.31ChoHagIronically enough that website is written using hateful software.
16:15.31wethrinindeed
16:15.34wethrin:)
16:16.21morsingLondo_: ping
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17:44.37morsingcatalyst!
19:02.08morsingBeer
19:35.02*** join/#gllug DiscordianUK (n=ch@chills.demon.co.uk)
20:04.39ChoHagDoes anyone want a shell menu/menu shell?
20:04.49ChoHaghas written one and placed it on savannah.
20:04.57ChoHagnow feels useful.
20:05.31DiscordianUKi'd use whatver the linux version of FMLI is called
20:06.23DiscordianUKoh that's it cursel
20:06.32morsingBeer
20:07.40ChoHagNo curses. Just echo.
20:08.14DiscordianUKBTDTGTTS
20:08.29morsingCawfy & cheese
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22:29.55DiscordianUKgah
22:30.03ArmandDisc ?
22:30.10DiscordianUKthe fedora repos ae broken
22:30.15DiscordianUKare
22:30.16ArmandAgain? ¬_¬
22:30.24DiscordianUKongoing
22:30.58ArmandI had so many issues with the Repos when I had my F8 webserver going.
22:31.13ArmandThe Livna repo is complete wank.
22:31.29DiscordianUKcurrently fedora are advising not to do updates
22:31.41DiscordianUKlivna works for nvidia
22:31.41ArmandGenius!!
22:31.57ArmandI had constant issues with the .XML or somesuch bullshit.
22:32.21DiscordianUKrepond.xml at a guess
22:32.39ArmandI think so.. it's been a while since I had that system online. >_<
22:32.57DiscordianUKoh well
22:33.03ArmandI'm going to sort that out on Wednesday, I'm staying at my mum's for three days. :)
22:33.25DiscordianUKheh
22:34.18ArmandI'll get all the essentials DLed.. Apache, MySQL, PHP, etc.
22:34.41DiscordianUKI'd start with the F9 respin then
22:35.01DiscordianUKwhich has the latest versions of stuff
22:35.18ArmandI've got the original release atm.
22:35.25ArmandI might DL the new one
22:35.47DiscordianUKThis was built from tehe day zero one
22:35.59Armand?
22:36.11DiscordianUKBut I suspect the changed rpms are around 2Gb
22:36.25DiscordianUKday 0 = day it was released
22:36.52Armandk
22:37.11ArmandShould have said, I got the KDE Live CD vrsion.
22:37.14Armand*version
22:37.29DiscordianUKah right
22:37.50DiscordianUKThat's also a respin
22:37.59ArmandDidn't fancy a DVD download. :P
22:38.20DiscordianUKi have the original download
22:38.33ArmandI'll look at the new ones
22:38.49DiscordianUKIt'd make sense
22:51.54DiscordianUKhttps://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-announce-list/2008-August/msg00008.html
22:55.12ArmandAhh
22:56.39ArmandI got an AMD based wifi card the other day.. so far found fk all of any use for driver DLs.. >_<
22:57.31DiscordianUKamd ?
22:57.41DiscordianUKnot atheros?
22:58.30ArmandAMD Alchemy.. ?_?
22:58.49ArmandI haven't got it now, I should have written down the chip details..
22:58.58DiscordianUKahh never heard of it
22:59.05ArmandMe neither..
22:59.55ArmandI was hoping to get it working with Backtrack 3, but no joy.
23:00.17DiscordianUKahh i downloaded that
23:00.35DiscordianUKmust burn it to cd
23:01.08ArmandAre the current links to the lastest version, or are respins elsewhere ?
23:02.42DiscordianUKNot sure
23:03.31Armandhttp://spins.fedoraunity.org/spins ?
23:03.55DiscordianUKyep
23:03.59ArmandF10 Alpha.. O_O
23:04.19DiscordianUKwell you could try f10a
23:04.49Armandmight be ok, for a giggle.. but if I can't get all the webserver tools working, I'll be most upset. :P
23:05.12DiscordianUKI'm pondering downloading the DVD
23:08.48DiscordianUKbut the beta is due in a few days
23:10.08ArmandAhh, that makes a differenct. :)
23:10.15Armand*e
23:10.47DiscordianUKi'd wait yes on f10
23:11.13ArmandI'll wait on the beta, I have until Wednesday anyway
23:13.31DiscordianUKsane
23:14.12DiscordianUKi suspect F10 will be interesting
23:14.23ArmandHope so.
23:14.46DiscordianUKf9 is and has issues
23:14.59ArmandI couldn't install RPMs on mine..
23:15.11ArmandSomething to do with Python or Yum.
23:15.14Armand?
23:15.29DiscordianUKthe live cd struck me as broken
23:15.48ArmandI'd say so..
23:16.00ArmandFresh install from the disc, can't install shit.
23:16.25DiscordianUKon a full install Networkmanager is enabled , network is isn't
23:16.45Armand?
23:16.55DiscordianUKwhich fails on  a lan connected box
23:18.10Armandsweet!! ¬_¬
23:18.28Armandright, gotta go play CS:S for a bit. :)
23:18.38DiscordianUKnight
23:18.59ArmandI'll be here, just AFKish. :P
23:21.55z00daxumm
23:22.04z00daxCS:S is a bit 1990's now isnt it
23:22.15DiscordianUKno idea
23:22.30z00daxall the cool kids are playing cod4 and etqw these days
23:22.31DiscordianUK<---- not a gamer

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