| 00:10.56 | AndyMillar | lo |
| 00:12.58 | secretlondon | hi |
| 00:29.38 | Discordian | gah can't sleep |
| 00:29.47 | Discordian | I really must get a job |
| 00:31.10 | Facundo | Discordian: you wake up late? |
| 00:33.05 | Discordian | I did today |
| 00:33.13 | Discordian | but usually at 06;30ish |
| 00:34.28 | AndyMillar | mmh, sleep is overrated |
| 00:40.16 | secretlondon | I should sleep actually |
| 00:50.16 | cpufreak | arse. I have a meeting in 6hrs |
| 00:50.20 | cpufreak | swears massively |
| 00:50.35 | Discordian | I shall try and sleep I think now |
| 00:51.04 | cpufreak | too, but alarm set for 4am CEST, to wake me up to take clothes out of rthe washing machine |
| 00:51.24 | Discordian | heh |
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| 06:23.28 | Cope | peeks in. |
| 07:31.55 | bilarh | morning |
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| 07:32.49 | bilarh | ./quit over /query ftw |
| 07:39.21 | Cope | moin |
| 07:53.24 | hali | morning |
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| 08:57.12 | AndyMillar | "Customers throughout Hackney & Islington may be experiencing a loss of their Virgin Media broadband service. |
| 08:57.16 | AndyMillar | virgin-- |
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| 09:16.22 | mikejw | hi peeps |
| 09:16.39 | wethrin | 'ello |
| 09:20.20 | mikejw | so is project Virgle for real? |
| 09:21.48 | wethrin | points at the date |
| 09:23.23 | mikejw | :) |
| 09:23.40 | mikejw | crazy shiznit |
| 09:23.45 | wethrin | mmm |
| 09:46.31 | hali | hm, interesting, it seems that there is no limit to how many QA servers a business can utilize |
| 09:46.44 | hali | we actaully have more QA than we have production servers now |
| 09:46.58 | hali | and a fraction for normal dev work |
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| 09:55.09 | AndyMillar | no-one cares about production any more |
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| 09:56.43 | Axel | good day ladies and gents |
| 09:57.44 | mikejw | yo |
| 10:04.11 | AndyMillar | lo |
| 10:06.28 | mikejw | hi :) |
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| 10:07.58 | morsing | 'morning |
| 10:08.08 | morsing | Anyone know what the problem is here: |
| 10:08.16 | morsing | http://www.morsing.cc/JBoss.txt |
| 10:09.22 | wethrin | searchUnifiedViewByCli(String, String) - e=java.net.ConnectExceptio |
| 10:09.23 | wethrin | n: Connection timed out |
| 10:09.54 | morsing | Yeah, that's the only thing I noticed as well. Is it possible to tell what it's doing I wonder... |
| 10:10.02 | wethrin | 2008-04-01 17:55:33,275 ERROR [uk.co.tiscali.fusion.b2b.dao.impl.GenericContactsDAO] searchContactByCli(String, String)Incorrect result size: expected 1, ac |
| 10:10.05 | wethrin | tual 0 |
| 10:10.06 | wethrin | Also that'un |
| 10:10.29 | morsing | ? |
| 10:10.31 | morsing | meaning? |
| 10:10.53 | wethrin | It's not getting any results back when it expected something |
| 10:11.10 | wethrin | But the Exception that it's throwing is due to a Conncetion timed out |
| 10:11.43 | wethrin | And someone appears to have not written a proper exception handling routine |
| 10:11.47 | morsing | Ok -thanks |
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| 10:29.31 | bilarh | mr turpin |
| 10:30.14 | *** mode/#gllug [+o morsing] by ChanServ |
| 10:33.05 | dick_turpin | bilarh: :-) |
| 10:35.15 | *** mode/#gllug [-oo morsing wethrin] by wethrin |
| 10:38.12 | dick_turpin | I want a mode too :-( |
| 10:38.35 | bilarh | you're in gay mode most of the time already, why d'you need another one? |
| 10:38.55 | dick_turpin | bilarh: You can talk fat boy |
| 10:39.08 | bilarh | just about |
| 10:39.24 | dick_turpin | Except when your mouths full :-P |
| 10:39.44 | morsing | Beer |
| 10:41.51 | bilarh | stuffs his face |
| 10:41.55 | Nafallo | where can I get kvr667d2d8f5/1g like now? :-) |
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| 11:48.19 | bilarh | sheesh, our internet is so slow at the moment that browsing doesn't work |
| 11:48.35 | bilarh | i'm in real danger of having to do real work! |
| 11:48.48 | morsing | meh |
| 11:48.58 | morsing | leans back and closes his eyes |
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| 11:49.41 | bilarh | morsing: been on the drink again? |
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| 11:50.49 | morsing | bilarh: No :( My drinking buddy at work, Nikki, is off sick :( |
| 11:50.54 | morsing | siriusly! |
| 11:52.27 | siriusly | morsing, ? |
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| 11:58.20 | morsing | siriusly! |
| 11:59.00 | siriusly | morsing! |
| 12:05.58 | AndyMillar | siriusly! |
| 12:06.01 | AndyMillar | :( |
| 12:10.24 | dick_turpin | bilarh: Put that down its dirty |
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| 12:12.05 | morsing | ElPenguin! |
| 12:12.50 | ElPenguin | hi morsing |
| 12:43.16 | bilarh | dick_turpin: just the way i like it |
| 12:53.09 | dick_turpin | bilarh: where you been? I got so fed up of waiting I had to do some work for a change |
| 12:54.20 | hali | has anyone tried https ssl vpn in Linux? |
| 12:57.22 | antiphase | Sounds terrible |
| 12:57.34 | antiphase | HTTP is for web pages :P |
| 13:03.12 | bilarh | dick_turpin: had internet problems |
| 13:03.22 | bilarh | i was *so* close to having to do some work |
| 13:03.30 | bilarh | imagine that, i would have been found out :-\ |
| 13:03.42 | dick_turpin | bilarh: Try paying the bill that generally helps :D |
| 13:04.28 | bilarh | yeah :( |
| 13:04.45 | bilarh | we just gave them a credit card we skimmed earlier today in the canteen |
| 13:04.58 | dick_turpin | bilarh: lol |
| 13:08.40 | AndyMillar | good plan! |
| 13:09.19 | bilarh | reminds me of the time we had to go out to the park and rob two old ladies to pay for backup tapes |
| 13:15.51 | bilarh | this is pretty neat http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jwMj3PJDxuo |
| 13:16.48 | hali | antiphase: it's ace, sort of like ssh tunnels but over SSL, it binds to 127.0.x.x addresses |
| 13:17.06 | hali | antiphase: not really useful for full blown vpn's but quite good to publish stuff like RDP servers |
| 13:17.23 | hali | no need for vpn software on the client side |
| 13:17.52 | antiphase | SSH but over SSL? Ha ha |
| 13:17.59 | antiphase | How do you think SSH works? |
| 13:18.10 | antiphase | I know what you mean though |
| 13:18.39 | hali | what im saying is that it's just forwarding ports |
| 13:18.47 | hali | similar to ssh, not that it is ssh |
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| 13:19.18 | hali | quite handy in environments where proxy servers and strict firewall policies are in place |
| 13:20.50 | AndyMillar | hali: ip over dns :) |
| 13:22.58 | hali | AndyMillar: that would get you sacked in most places |
| 13:27.05 | AndyMillar | heh |
| 13:27.05 | AndyMillar | why? |
| 13:27.25 | AndyMillar | well, not the sorts of places I work :) |
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| 13:30.35 | hali | banks |
| 13:30.41 | hali | we use it for banking clients |
| 13:30.52 | hali | investment banks where they are pretty paranoid about security |
| 13:37.08 | wethrin | As well they should be |
| 13:37.44 | hali | yes |
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| 14:33.53 | Facundo | Hi people |
| 14:35.04 | wethrin | hi |
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| 14:53.58 | Discordian | Re |
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| 16:50.11 | rh-work | http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/dannywestneat/2004300343_danny23.html |
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| 17:18.37 | secretlondon | hi |
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| 17:24.35 | Discordian | Hi again |
| 17:24.42 | secretlondon | hi |
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| 17:36.38 | Discordian | bah the way Linux handles USb disks is a bit naff |
| 17:37.31 | antiphase | You plug them in and they get automounted these days |
| 17:37.36 | antiphase | Better than it used to be |
| 17:38.16 | Discordian | Yeah I wind up having to use /dev/disk/BY_UUID devices though |
| 17:38.26 | secretlondon | automount ftw |
| 17:40.37 | ChoHag | Really? Mine end up on /dev/sd? |
| 17:41.14 | Discordian | Yeah but the /dev/sd devices aren't invariant |
| 17:42.00 | Discordian | Sometimes the USB drive is seen as /dev/sda and sometimes as /dev/sdb |
| 17:42.43 | ChoHag | dmesg++ |
| 17:42.52 | Discordian | Heh |
| 17:43.02 | Discordian | I still prefer the solaris way |
| 17:43.18 | Discordian | controller target disk |
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| 20:22.28 | Discordian | wb |
| 20:31.37 | aguai | ibot: are you bot? |
| 20:36.23 | secretlondon | ibot bot |
| 20:36.24 | ibot | I ain't no stinkin' bot. I am a finely tuned and hand crafted tool. Oh wait... I guess I am a bot (that you should not abuse). |
| 20:36.37 | secretlondon | ibot abuse |
| 20:36.38 | ibot | extra, extra, read all about it, abuse is http://www.rfc-ignorant.org/policy-abuse.php or RFC 2142 |
| 21:00.48 | AndyMillar | i need to set my voicemail message to say "please email me instead" |
| 21:01.02 | wethrin | Then people will email you to say they left you a voicemail |
| 21:03.25 | AndyMillar | heh |
| 21:03.36 | AndyMillar | there must be a way around it |
| 21:06.19 | wethrin | Don't use voicemail |
| 21:07.20 | AndyMillar | but then people ring for ages and ages |
| 21:07.32 | AndyMillar | which is annoying when you're busy |
| 21:40.23 | wethrin | Mute it! |
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| 21:45.13 | AndyMillar | heh |
| 22:07.48 | secretlondon | *honestly* |
| 22:12.34 | Nafallo | my director doesn't want to buy a lion cub for the office :-( |
| 22:12.52 | hali | pony? |
| 22:12.59 | Nafallo | no. lion cub. |
| 22:13.30 | Nafallo | his response included: you've gone mental |
| 22:13.32 | Nafallo | :-) |
| 22:14.35 | AndyMillar | goat! |
| 22:14.46 | AndyMillar | i spoke to a theatre director on the train the other day |
| 22:14.59 | AndyMillar | and he suggested laying turf in his dining room and keeping a goat |
| 22:15.04 | AndyMillar | do that in the office! |
| 22:15.07 | hali | we have a server called 'goat', fairly good spec, 2x5160 |
| 22:15.18 | AndyMillar | turf over one of the small offices and keep a goat! |
| 22:15.35 | hali | but i'd be hesitant to have a goat at home |
| 22:15.42 | AndyMillar | why? |
| 22:16.00 | hali | any type of farm animal doesn't really work in a city |
| 22:17.36 | Nafallo | exactly! |
| 22:17.39 | Nafallo | we need a lion :-) |
| 22:17.42 | AndyMillar | bah |
| 22:17.53 | hali | give up, just get a sugar glider |
| 22:18.05 | AndyMillar | i can't find my video of business cards floating on iphouse's cooling vents :( |
| 22:18.30 | Nafallo | iphouse. |
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| 22:18.32 | Nafallo | lol |
| 22:18.43 | secretlondo | hi |
| 22:19.02 | Nafallo | hi secretlondo. do you have a lion cub for me? |
| 22:19.07 | secretlondon | Nafallo, lion cub? |
| 22:19.08 | AndyMillar | Nafallo: yeah, it was a one off... the only time their air-con was working! |
| 22:19.20 | Nafallo | secretlondon: lion cub! :-) |
| 22:19.30 | Nafallo | AndyMillar: haha! :-D |
| 22:19.50 | AndyMillar | i quite like iphouse though :( |
| 22:20.04 | AndyMillar | it's cheap... and closer to me than maidenhead! |
| 22:20.39 | Nafallo | I don't like it. |
| 22:20.47 | Nafallo | I had a server in there. |
| 22:20.47 | AndyMillar | howcome? |
| 22:21.00 | Nafallo | well... it sucks? :-) |
| 22:21.14 | AndyMillar | heh |
| 22:21.45 | Nafallo | in a bad way I might add. |
| 22:23.29 | AndyMillar | one company i work for has (or had) a few racks there |
| 22:23.54 | AndyMillar | it's not *that* bad |
| 22:24.15 | AndyMillar | what didn't you like about it? |
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| 22:25.17 | Nafallo | most everything :-) |
| 22:25.18 | AndyMillar | what company were you with? |
| 22:25.26 | Nafallo | Datahop |
| 22:25.35 | AndyMillar | datahop do/did colo? |
| 22:25.48 | Nafallo | nope :-) |
| 22:26.03 | AndyMillar | how much did you have in iph? |
| 22:26.33 | Nafallo | they have a rack. |
| 22:26.48 | Nafallo | doesn't need that much for a switch and a UPS ;-) |
| 22:27.20 | AndyMillar | heh |
| 22:27.41 | Nafallo | actually. |
| 22:27.58 | Nafallo | there are two switches in IPH since everyone in there use them :-P |
| 22:28.22 | AndyMillar | only 2 switches? |
| 22:29.15 | AndyMillar | hmm, datahop appear to have expanded a lot recently |
| 22:30.12 | Nafallo | they have |
| 22:31.10 | AndyMillar | oh for fucks sake, what irritating "brand consultant" advised all hosting companies not to publish prices? |
| 22:32.03 | Nafallo | Datahop has them on the frontpage surely? |
| 22:32.12 | Nafallo | oh. |
| 22:32.13 | Nafallo | hosting. |
| 22:32.16 | Nafallo | not transit |
| 22:32.25 | Nafallo | lchost.co.uk? |
| 22:32.29 | AndyMillar | colo* |
| 22:32.34 | AndyMillar | was what i meant :/ |
| 22:32.42 | Nafallo | yea. lchost :-) |
| 22:32.51 | secretlondon | I presume the price varies depending how much business you give them |
| 22:33.00 | AndyMillar | secretlondon: a rough guide would be useful |
| 22:33.03 | secretlondon | but it'd save you time bothing to contact the expensive |
| 22:33.08 | secretlondon | bothering |
| 22:33.14 | AndyMillar | yeah |
| 22:33.24 | Nafallo | AndyMillar: looking at lchost? |
| 22:33.33 | Nafallo | AndyMillar: they are TH based :-) |
| 22:33.55 | AndyMillar | you wouldn't be affiliated with them, would you? ;) |
| 22:33.57 | secretlondon | how do I stop Hardy deleting .xsession-errors each reboot, is there a way of making it do a backup? |
| 22:34.19 | Nafallo | AndyMillar: I do some work for Phil from time to time indeed. |
| 22:34.21 | Nafallo | AndyMillar: why? |
| 22:34.30 | AndyMillar | interested :p |
| 22:34.41 | AndyMillar | also, there's no mention of power usage on their site |
| 22:34.57 | hali | Nafallo: how much power per rack does telehouse do these days? |
| 22:34.58 | Nafallo | cause that depends on the rack normally :-) |
| 22:35.08 | Nafallo | hali: see previous line :-) |
| 22:35.42 | Nafallo | I know he sold a full rack in THE with 10 Amps quite recently. |
| 22:35.49 | hali | they must have a max allowance |
| 22:36.04 | hali | 10 amps not much these days |
| 22:36.09 | hali | we usually get 32 from INX |
| 22:36.13 | AndyMillar | hali: it is for central london :/ |
| 22:36.38 | AndyMillar | Nafallo: lchost are about 2-3x what i'm paying now :( |
| 22:36.44 | hali | 32 power but 20 cooling capacity from INX though, so you're not allowed to average over 20 |
| 22:36.57 | Nafallo | hali: I've heard TCRB do 4 Amps those days. |
| 22:37.11 | AndyMillar | Nafallo: tcrb is 8 iirc |
| 22:37.22 | hali | depends on the site |
| 22:37.23 | AndyMillar | iphouse starts on 2 or 4 |
| 22:37.31 | hali | i think most are 8 |
| 22:37.40 | hali | and meridian gate is probably more |
| 22:37.56 | AndyMillar | how much is a rack in mer worth now? |
| 22:38.07 | hali | 700pm or so? |
| 22:38.11 | hali | not sure |
| 22:38.31 | hali | INX do 20amps racks for about 1100 |
| 22:38.40 | AndyMillar | that's pretty good |
| 22:39.07 | hali | interxion looks a bit scruffy but the infrastructure is good |
| 22:39.17 | hali | the building looks like dogshit from the outside :) |
| 22:39.26 | Nafallo | and from the inside ;-) |
| 22:39.30 | AndyMillar | rapidswitch do 8A for 850pm (and that comes with 30mbit cdr) |
| 22:39.40 | AndyMillar | which isn't that good by the sounds of it |
| 22:39.43 | hali | and thats in the sticks :) |
| 22:39.46 | AndyMillar | yeah |
| 22:39.54 | AndyMillar | 20A for 1100 is pretty good |
| 22:40.05 | hali | i think bluesquare direct was cheaper than rapidswitch |
| 22:40.11 | hali | i have a quote somewhere |
| 22:40.20 | AndyMillar | not any more i don't think :( |
| 22:40.26 | hali | and they offer a really nice power plan, pay for what you use in 2amp steps |
| 22:40.32 | hali | or at least used to |
| 22:40.37 | AndyMillar | that's what iph do |
| 22:40.39 | hali | must have been a year ago now i last looked |
| 22:40.56 | hali | BSG do the same in level3@gos |
| 22:43.39 | Nafallo | what about iomart? |
| 22:43.50 | hali | never used them |
| 22:44.10 | hali | they look wanky from the website :) |
| 22:44.20 | hali | we tend to go carrier neutral |
| 22:44.38 | Nafallo | I've heard the new site is pretty awesome. |
| 22:44.47 | hali | where is that? |
| 22:44.57 | Nafallo | the one close to Metro. |
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