| 00:40.50 | etorix | ha ha http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S04zVqLWTO0 |
| 00:40.58 | etorix | issa pocket innit |
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| 13:35.56 | morsing | zmey_g! |
| 13:36.07 | zmey_g | morsing: ! |
| 14:17.25 | Discordian | lo |
| 14:41.49 | hali | hm, my new nas doesn't support NFS :/ |
| 14:41.58 | wethrin | That's a bit shit of it |
| 14:41.59 | hali | impulse purchase in the pcworld easter sale |
| 14:42.14 | hali | not that i mind using cifs but still |
| 14:42.14 | wethrin | "Not fit for purpose" |
| 14:42.15 | boudiccas | you went to pissyworld? |
| 14:42.33 | hali | was out walking and decided to go in |
| 14:42.36 | hali | 1Tb for 149 ... not bad |
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| 14:43.10 | wethrin | No, that's not bad |
| 14:43.33 | Armand | Hi all. ^_^ |
| 14:43.58 | hali | plus it allows access over the internet via mionet |
| 14:48.18 | hali | hm, it is GPL'd... and the source is available |
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| 15:18.54 | morsing | Axel! |
| 15:30.45 | hali | has now got SSH and NFS access to his WD NAS |
| 15:30.50 | hali | thanks to some czech hacker |
| 15:30.51 | morsing | Beer |
| 15:30.56 | morsing | LGee? |
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| 15:55.16 | morsing | curson! |
| 15:55.44 | curson | hi |
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| 16:09.10 | Discordian | re |
| 16:42.37 | morsing | aguai! |
| 17:39.04 | aguai | morsing: |
| 17:39.09 | aguai | morsing! |
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| 18:07.29 | Discordian | wb |
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| 18:16.52 | secretlondon | hi |
| 18:22.03 | Discordian | hi |
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| 19:15.51 | Discordian | wb# |
| 19:21.46 | secretlondon | ty |
| 19:25.06 | Discordian | gah |
| 19:25.32 | Discordian | realises everywhere will be shut tomorrow |
| 19:25.45 | z00dax | snow! |
| 19:26.07 | Discordian | Yeah there's a bit in my front garden |
| 19:26.14 | z00dax | i was in the city all day, and only saw it flying around a bit, seems things closer to home are actually white with a bit actually sticking around |
| 19:26.38 | Discordian | Yeah well I'm not far from youj |
| 19:27.30 | secretlondon | no snow here |
| 19:27.45 | secretlondon | well I haven't been outside tho |
| 19:27.57 | Discordian | heh |
| 19:28.03 | secretlondon | supermarket (somerfield) was open yesterday |
| 19:28.09 | Discordian | Yeah |
| 19:28.44 | Discordian | But tomorow is one of the two days(xmas day is the other) when they can't open |
| 19:30.28 | hali | hm |
| 19:30.47 | Discordian | smaller shops can |
| 19:33.23 | hali | monday is alright though? |
| 19:33.32 | Discordian | Yeah |
| 19:33.43 | hali | lucky i stocked up on hot cross buns today! |
| 19:33.54 | Discordian | Lots of places open extended hours in fact for the sales |
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| 20:08.19 | Discordian | Lo |
| 20:10.11 | secretlondon | lo |
| 20:12.02 | Discordian | shivers |
| 20:14.41 | Armand | timbers |
| 20:16.26 | secretlondon | should go and see if there really is snow |
| 20:18.35 | Discordian | heh |
| 20:19.48 | Discordian | Are there geek games over the holiday? |
| 20:20.19 | secretlondon | should be some tomorrow - although it was hard to get anyone to play games last week |
| 20:20.33 | Discordian | gah |
| 20:20.41 | Discordian | Monday would be better |
| 20:23.05 | Discordian | I can't do tomorrow, transport is too broken here |
| 20:27.40 | Nafallo | secretlondon: there will be a more fun eeepc series soon :-) |
| 20:27.56 | secretlondon | Nafallo: cool |
| 20:28.04 | secretlondon | still wants bad |
| 20:29.04 | wethrin | The N810 is neater |
| 20:29.22 | secretlondon | wouldn't turn one of those down either |
| 20:29.29 | Nafallo | secretlondon: triple the SSD space, double the memory, larger screen, larger keyboard, larger mousepad, faster and more low-powered cpu, HDSPA, WiMAX and improved batterylife (8h) in the same form factor :-) |
| 20:29.42 | secretlondon | :) |
| 20:30.38 | Nafallo | the CPU will draw like 2.5 watts. 600 mw at lowest scaling :-) |
| 20:30.49 | Discordian | is less convinced by SSD |
| 20:31.13 | Nafallo | loves SSD |
| 20:31.19 | Discordian | That sounds like Intel Atom CPUs |
| 20:31.34 | Nafallo | Discordian: because it is ;-) |
| 20:31.46 | hali | someone claimed Samsung had over 30% return rates on the solid state drives |
| 20:32.10 | Nafallo | never liked Samsung, so is not surprised at all |
| 20:32.32 | secretlondon | Nafallo: when are they due, and for how much? |
| 20:32.49 | Nafallo | secretlondon: Q3. haven't seen a price in £ |
| 20:32.50 | hali | the 9" model with 8gb was about 499 euro or something like that |
| 20:33.09 | hali | so 388gbp |
| 20:33.11 | hali | :/ |
| 20:33.20 | secretlondon | about double |
| 20:33.22 | secretlondon | ish |
| 20:33.26 | Nafallo | hali: that's with Windows, no? 12GB should be about the same with Linux I think. |
| 20:33.33 | hali | possibly windows, not sure |
| 20:33.55 | hali | i looked at the 7" today and it looks a bit silly with the 7" screen in that big chassi |
| 20:33.55 | secretlondon | think they've been given a special deal to ship with doze tho |
| 20:34.12 | Discordian | yeuuww doze |
| 20:34.38 | Nafallo | hali: I'm using my eee right now :-) |
| 20:34.57 | z00dax | i hope to be playing with someoen else's eeepc on Sunday :D |
| 20:35.03 | Nafallo | with ubuntu on it :-) |
| 20:35.24 | hali | the new norhtec looks cool too |
| 20:35.35 | hali | and is supposed to cost 180 |
| 20:35.43 | z00dax | hali: url ? |
| 20:35.43 | Discordian | i've never even seen an eepc in real life |
| 20:36.03 | Nafallo | secretlondon: which browser do you use? I ponder if epiphany would be more lightweight then firefox |
| 20:36.04 | hali | z00dax: http://www.engadget.com/2008/03/15/norhtec-prepping-sub-300-linux-based-laptop-of-its-own/ |
| 20:36.34 | hali | via c7 |
| 20:36.36 | wethrin | Nafallo: Internet Explorer running under Vmware would be more lightweight than Firefox |
| 20:36.40 | secretlondon | Nafallo: both really. Firefox 3 is lardy, I've been playing with Epiphany too |
| 20:36.51 | wethrin | It's a feature. |
| 20:36.57 | Nafallo | hehe |
| 20:36.59 | Discordian | You can run ie6 under linux |
| 20:37.07 | hali | and there is the everex cloudbook, also cool but got "weird" chassi design |
| 20:37.15 | Discordian | if you really must |
| 20:37.39 | hali | i tried to run firefox on 32mb ram on my arm today, it failed :) |
| 20:37.57 | wethrin | ie6 is rubbish |
| 20:38.02 | wethrin | 7 isn't too bad |
| 20:38.07 | Discordian | I said if you must |
| 20:38.14 | hali | 7 renders better but the UI is odd |
| 20:38.14 | wethrin | hali: That was silly |
| 20:38.17 | secretlondon | ie is shit |
| 20:38.39 | Discordian | uses firefox |
| 20:39.10 | secretlondon | should go to the shop |
| 20:39.11 | Nafallo | installs epipahany |
| 20:39.12 | wethrin | 7 isn't all that shit. But then, I use Safari. |
| 20:39.30 | secretlondon | only 90p of electricity, no electricity would be bad |
| 20:39.41 | Discordian | i don't use windows |
| 20:39.46 | Discordian | errk |
| 20:39.49 | secretlondon | doesn't understand Mac weenies |
| 20:39.51 | wethrin | it would detract from irc time |
| 20:40.17 | hali | understand mac weenies |
| 20:40.36 | Discordian | On a leccy key thing? |
| 20:40.41 | secretlondon | yeah |
| 20:40.48 | hali | well, the only mac weenie i know is our marketing girl at work and she gets along fine with her mac but whines about her thinkpad all the time |
| 20:40.54 | wethrin | Now, given about half of ukuug have Macs, and OS X is now a proper unix... |
| 20:41.03 | Discordian | I'd buy more leccy |
| 20:41.20 | Discordian | has a key meter too |
| 20:41.46 | Discordian | proper unix? hmmm |
| 20:42.04 | secretlondon | could complain lots about the people who have apple logos in their icons, and the SDL gsoc application that looked like it was written by apple's marketing department |
| 20:43.03 | secretlondon | anyway.. leccy! |
| 20:43.17 | wethrin | later |
| 20:43.29 | Discordian | OS X isn't a proper unix |
| 20:43.31 | secretlondon | (people have iphones need shooting) |
| 20:43.43 | wethrin | Yes, officially it is |
| 20:43.49 | Discordian | sure it's a FreeBSD userland |
| 20:43.52 | wethrin | It's been accredited |
| 20:43.59 | Discordian | the kernel is mach |
| 20:44.25 | Discordian | and the crap below it sure isn't unix |
| 20:45.39 | Discordian | I regard the BSDs as unix |
| 20:45.58 | Discordian | But OS X isn't BSD |
| 20:46.30 | wethrin | It's certified as a Unix. |
| 20:46.53 | Discordian | Single unix spec? |
| 20:47.19 | wethrin | âLeopard is now an Open Brand UNIX 03 Registered Product, conforming to the SUSv3 and POSIX 1003.1 specifications for the C API, Shell Utilities, and Threads.â |
| 20:48.26 | Discordian | Wouldn't NT + Interix also meet tha? |
| 20:48.34 | Discordian | that |
| 20:49.00 | Discordian | whatever MS call interix these days |
| 20:49.03 | wethrin | NT certainly meets some posix specs. |
| 20:49.14 | wethrin | Is that their SFU? |
| 20:49.19 | Discordian | yes |
| 20:49.25 | wethrin | right |
| 20:53.10 | z00dax | man, some DC's are just the shit |
| 20:53.30 | Discordian | which DC's? |
| 20:53.35 | z00dax | I asked for a machine reboot, and got a reply in 2 min saying Done, however, the ssh session that I had on the machine is still working and uptime says > 36 days |
| 20:53.38 | Discordian | if you can say |
| 20:53.59 | hali | i've had that, they rebooted the wrong box |
| 20:54.07 | hali | managed power swithces ftw |
| 20:54.20 | z00dax | I've checked my other machine there as well, and thats got uptime of 12 days |
| 20:54.28 | z00dax | so its not one of mine they rebooted |
| 20:54.33 | Nafallo | always works fine for me in THM :-) |
| 20:54.45 | z00dax | Nafallo: how much do you pay for b/w ? |
| 20:54.47 | Discordian | L3 used to 'accidentally' reboot my boxes |
| 20:54.57 | wethrin | Mailbox were always good when I had a machine in there |
| 20:55.08 | z00dax | i pay $38/month for 12mbps cbr with 100mb surge's |
| 20:55.09 | Nafallo | z00dax: my or my works network? |
| 20:55.19 | z00dax | Nafallo: at the DC where things always worked for you |
| 20:55.29 | Discordian | In the Joel era, wetherin? |
| 20:55.38 | Nafallo | z00dax: we got multiple transits, and I |
| 20:55.47 | Nafallo | m not involved in the economy of things. |
| 20:56.14 | wethrin | In 2002-2004. Was that Joel era? |
| 20:56.19 | Discordian | Yes |
| 20:56.25 | Nafallo | I think we have 6 transits at the moment. |
| 20:56.27 | z00dax | Nafallo: ok :D the only reason i am hosting with these guys is that i run my main mirrors from there, and given this is open source shit, i get zero revenue - so need to keep those b/w bills odwn |
| 20:56.48 | Nafallo | z00dax: yea :-) |
| 20:56.54 | z00dax | and i try to not hit the donated hosting with too much b/w - dont want the donors to go away |
| 20:57.07 | Nafallo | I get free transit on my own network. three transit suppliers. |
| 20:57.16 | z00dax | [root@panic conf]# ls |
| 20:57.16 | z00dax | -bash: /bin/ls: Input/output error |
| 20:57.19 | z00dax | not good is it ? |
| 20:57.23 | wethrin | no |
| 20:57.32 | Discordian | That looks worrying |
| 20:57.34 | Nafallo | z00dax: not good. sounds like the controller went away. |
| 20:57.41 | z00dax | [root@panic conf]# cat /proc/uptime |
| 20:57.42 | z00dax | -bash: /bin/cat: Input/output error |
| 20:57.59 | Nafallo | had that error on a 3ware with bad firmware. |
| 20:58.02 | Discordian | what does ldd /bin/cat say? |
| 20:58.05 | wethrin | drive fucked, or driver fucked |
| 20:58.18 | z00dax | this is a seagate 120gb ide hdd, right into the mobo interface |
| 20:58.31 | hali | scary box to colocate |
| 20:58.44 | hali | lots of single points of failure |
| 20:58.54 | wethrin | If it's a bug in the driver or firmware, a reboot should fix it |
| 20:58.58 | z00dax | hali: leased dedi server from $SomeOne in the US |
| 20:59.11 | hali | ah |
| 20:59.19 | wethrin | If it's the drive that's gone, be glad you have backups |
| 20:59.25 | Nafallo | z00dax: alert them about the issue and get them to work it out. |
| 20:59.43 | z00dax | Nafallo: for now i am trying to get them to reboot the machine, that would be a good start |
| 21:00.22 | wethrin | Also be glad that you'd have a serial console or equivalent so you can watch it booting |
| 21:00.57 | Nafallo | remind me to scream at my parents tomorrow. |
| 21:01.19 | z00dax | wethrin: there is only *so* much you get for $110/month for 2 machines with 120gb and lots of b/w :D serialcon, isnt on that list |
| 21:01.20 | Nafallo | they keep changing the antennas on the wireless between times I'm here. |
| 21:02.03 | wethrin | z00dax: Surely a serial console on colo hardware should be a given? :) |
| 21:02.16 | Discordian | IPMI would be better |
| 21:03.03 | Nafallo | Discordian: I would charge per network port. |
| 21:04.03 | hali | so would a raritan kvm-over-ip switch :) |
| 21:04.13 | Discordian | yeah |
| 21:04.28 | wethrin | hali: Only if you use a PC :) |
| 21:04.38 | Discordian | but you get what you pay for# |
| 21:04.52 | hali | wethrin: they have support for sun serial and sun too |
| 21:05.06 | wethrin | That's handy |
| 21:05.08 | hali | wethrin: they even support serial console dongles on the normal kvm ports |
| 21:05.10 | hali | yep |
| 21:05.13 | hali | but fairly pricey |
| 21:05.27 | wethrin | you gets wot you pay for |
| 21:05.37 | Discordian | i said that ^^ |
| 21:05.58 | wethrin | I know. I felt it was worth reiterating :) |
| 21:06.11 | Discordian | heh |
| 21:06.47 | wethrin | offlines for a bit |
| 21:06.49 | wethrin | later |
| 21:06.51 | z00dax | ta |
| 21:11.23 | Discordian | sighs |
| 21:11.51 | Nafallo | z00dax: get in some DC close to me instead btw ;-) |
| 21:12.07 | Nafallo | z00dax: except I'm in the snowy north as we speak :-P |
| 21:12.27 | Discordian | manc? |
| 21:12.34 | Nafallo | ldn |
| 21:12.37 | Nafallo | ah |
| 21:12.41 | Nafallo | no. Sweden |
| 21:12.48 | Discordian | haha |
| 21:12.56 | hali | hm, i managed to get out of the easter sweden visit this year |
| 21:12.56 | z00dax | Nafallo: ooh... anything affordable in those parts then ? |
| 21:13.04 | z00dax | hali: slacker |
| 21:13.11 | hali | it sucks |
| 21:13.25 | z00dax | even more than london at easter ? |
| 21:13.27 | Nafallo | z00dax: Telehouses, Globalswitches and TCRB all pretty close to where I live :-) |
| 21:14.10 | Nafallo | hali: I /had/ a girlfriend to visit. she broke up earlier this week though. |
| 21:14.13 | z00dax | Nafallo: those guys are absurdly expensive. there is no way i could afford to host anything in London unless someone was helping / subsidising heavily |
| 21:14.20 | hali | ah, annoying |
| 21:14.20 | z00dax | Nafallo: oops |
| 21:14.35 | z00dax | positive side to that is -> more time for open source:D |
| 21:14.44 | Nafallo | hali: indeed. with parents now. and will meet a girl tomorrow morning ;-) |
| 21:15.18 | hali | i prefer english girls these days |
| 21:15.23 | hali | less work, more return :) |
| 21:15.33 | Nafallo | z00dax: yea. I have this server in SOV and another server in THM at the moment. will have a couple of U in THE when I can afford a router :-) |
| 21:16.13 | Nafallo | hali: hehe. this far it seems I'm still heading for Swedish girls ;) |
| 21:17.22 | Nafallo | btw. anyone in here selling hardware? |
| 21:17.30 | Nafallo | need a custom built 1U box |
| 21:17.51 | hali | im was in the market too for a while but it seems quite pricey to get a custom box |
| 21:17.58 | hali | just buying a sun or dell or something is usually cheaper |
| 21:18.13 | Nafallo | hali: I have quite specific demands :-/ |
| 21:18.39 | hali | lin-itx has got some cool ITX based machines if you're not that hardcore on performance |
| 21:19.02 | hali | my favorite is one 1U chassi with 4 ITX systems |
| 21:19.03 | Nafallo | hali: i.e. be able to route X amount of traffic, 4 GB ports with a PCI-E free, CF-card reader instead of harddrive etc... :-) |
| 21:19.22 | hali | ah, that sounds like a Cisco ASA 5520 :) |
| 21:19.36 | Nafallo | except it will run Ubuntu? ;-) |
| 21:19.46 | hali | well, it can but it would be a waste of money |
| 21:19.53 | hali | ASA's are just normal PC hardware |
| 21:20.27 | Nafallo | oki. I'll take a look then. |
| 21:20.28 | z00dax | hali: i saw that 4 mobo in 1U demo'd a few weeks back running ltsp from one 'master' node and 3 'worker' nodes :d |
| 21:20.41 | hali | cool |
| 21:21.06 | Nafallo | z00dax: nice |
| 21:21.08 | hali | Nafallo: a sun x2100 with a CF adapter could do that with ease |
| 21:22.04 | z00dax | you can get V20z's off ebay cheap - and you can also get sata backpanes for those from ebay ( US ) - those are decent opteron machines |
| 21:22.23 | hali | they have crap fans and psu's though |
| 21:22.27 | hali | especially fans |
| 21:22.31 | Nafallo | hmm. opteron is hot and eats power, no? |
| 21:22.33 | hali | and shit aloms |
| 21:22.39 | z00dax | really ? Mine's been going ok for 2 years now |
| 21:22.52 | hali | a new x2100 starts at 470 quid + vat |
| 21:22.56 | z00dax | should i be worried ? |
| 21:23.04 | z00dax | does not want to loose another machine today |
| 21:23.10 | z00dax | everyone, quick - knock on some wood |
| 21:23.35 | hali | z00dax: we bought 8 or so and i think 6 have had failed fans and one has got a failed SP... the fans started to make lots of noise |
| 21:24.02 | z00dax | humm... should setup a visit to the DC then ( that machine is hosted here in Coreix / stratford ) |
| 21:24.18 | hali | never heard of that DC |
| 21:24.27 | Discordian | Tyco ? |
| 21:24.44 | z00dax | oh yea, that reminds me - somethin quite cool - i saw 3 racks full of ps3's the other day- someone is using those to host online games for people. |
| 21:25.06 | hali | haha |
| 21:25.09 | hali | nice |
| 21:25.09 | Nafallo | z00dax: lol |
| 21:25.18 | z00dax | hali: coreix.net - they offered to host a few machines for CentOS - thats where we have 4 Netra's and this V20 |
| 21:25.32 | Discordian | I recall visiting Tyco's DC in stratford |
| 21:25.39 | hali | ah yes, sun donated a pair of v20s? |
| 21:25.43 | Nafallo | the cisco seems a bit... unexpandable |
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| 21:26.03 | Discordian | above a supermarket |
| 21:26.17 | z00dax | its not the best DC in town - in terms of internal look and feel, but they have decent AirCon and good network, which is what most people really want |
| 21:26.21 | hali | Nafallo: it's a plain firewall... sun x2100 could do it with ease and is cheaper |
| 21:26.22 | z00dax | Discordian: thats the one :D |
| 21:26.42 | z00dax | it is on the high street, above - wilkinson i think |
| 21:26.49 | hali | our old CSO had been to some colo in leeds which was above a chip shop :) |
| 21:26.52 | Discordian | Wilkinson yes |
| 21:26.58 | Nafallo | hali: I will use it for BGP, IPsec-transported GRE, VLANs. |
| 21:27.02 | Discordian | It was very empty |
| 21:27.12 | z00dax | hali: yeah those ones were about 2 years old now - the v20's - fish4 gave us some netra's |
| 21:27.29 | z00dax | however, the apt.sw.be machine is something I own and pay for. and i want it rebooted, really |
| 21:27.30 | Nafallo | hali: no firewalling on that box. start with 4xGbE and want to be able to pop in fibre cards. |
| 21:27.37 | hali | sun should cough up some x4150's for centos now |
| 21:28.06 | hali | Nafallo: the sun x2100 comes with quad gig ethernet out of the box... can take 1 pci-e card |
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| 21:28.23 | Nafallo | I'll check that out then :-) |
| 21:28.39 | Discordian | We went with what was Redbus MER instead |
| 21:28.42 | hali | just checking sun.co.uk, list price starts at 540+75 (for rack kit) |
| 21:29.33 | Nafallo | ooh. I was in MER a while ago :-) |
| 21:30.08 | secretlondon | has electricity, food and mini creme eggs |
| 21:30.24 | Discordian | Tyco (stratford) looked too empty to me |
| 21:31.05 | Discordian | I have electricity for now. and no creme eggs |
| 21:31.26 | Discordian | But I'm not allowed them |
| 21:31.31 | z00dax | my $work has a rack in MER |
| 21:31.56 | z00dax | err. no, i lie, they consolidated all RBSOV + RBMER to RBMEM |
| 21:32.05 | Discordian | This was for ex-$work |
| 21:32.21 | hali | whats mem? |
| 21:32.30 | z00dax | memaco house ? |
| 21:32.36 | hali | ah |
| 21:32.44 | Discordian | that's me |
| 21:32.46 | Discordian | mer |
| 21:32.54 | z00dax | mer == meridian gate |
| 21:32.58 | Discordian | aye |
| 21:33.04 | hali | we sould our busines that had racks in SOV and HEX so i'm all free from redbus now *yay* |
| 21:33.05 | z00dax | meridian gate != memaco house |
| 21:33.15 | z00dax | man, HEX sucked |
| 21:33.23 | Discordian | MER was memaco house |
| 21:33.45 | Discordian | I used to work next to it |
| 21:33.50 | hali | our old setup was *shit*, we had three cages, two in SOV and one in HEX ... redbus couldn't sort it out in one location |
| 21:34.34 | hali | all sold now, we have all kit in l3, inx and equinox |
| 21:34.45 | hali | of which i sort of like all three |
| 21:34.57 | Discordian | I hated l3 |
| 21:35.07 | Discordian | too many outages |
| 21:35.29 | hali | we've had one noticable |
| 21:35.34 | hali | the power outage about 18 months ago |
| 21:35.44 | hali | which lasted 6ish hours |
| 21:35.47 | Nafallo | hali: which L3? |
| 21:35.53 | hali | goswell road |
| 21:35.55 | Discordian | At goswell road? |
| 21:36.13 | hali | brb, making a smoothie :P |
| 21:36.16 | Discordian | We had about 5 in 12 months |
| 21:36.41 | Discordian | Not acceptable |
| 21:40.43 | Nafallo | hmm |
| 21:40.54 | Nafallo | not sure at all about the sun box |
| 21:44.21 | z00dax | nothing beats 15 hrs outage at HEX when shut happened 'inside' their redundancy :D |
| 21:44.47 | Discordian | lol |
| 21:45.37 | Discordian | Truth in advertising + |
| 21:45.59 | Nafallo | hmm |
| 21:46.19 | Nafallo | anyone else have troubles understanding why the new telehouse will be south? |
| 21:46.30 | Nafallo | it should be west :-) |
| 21:46.40 | Discordian | Cheaper |
| 21:47.02 | Nafallo | cheaper? |
| 21:47.04 | Discordian | and it makes sense |
| 21:47.33 | Nafallo | it doesn't. not if they plan to build it where they have planned to built it the last years... |
| 21:47.45 | Discordian | which is ? |
| 21:47.46 | Nafallo | cause that's west of the security building. |
| 21:48.12 | Nafallo | you know on the parking lot where you have the gravel and trees and stuff? |
| 21:48.29 | Discordian | Err no |
| 21:48.37 | Nafallo | ponders if gravel is the word... |
| 21:48.41 | Nafallo | hali: grus? :-0 |
| 21:48.43 | Nafallo | :-) |
| 21:49.08 | hali | yes |
| 21:49.21 | Nafallo | hali: right word? :-) |
| 21:49.26 | hali | yes |
| 21:49.51 | hali | Nafallo: are you stocking up on 'grovsnus' now when you're back in sweden? |
| 21:50.19 | Nafallo | hali: never tried that stuff and will never do :-) |
| 21:50.30 | hali | me neither |
| 21:50.34 | Nafallo | hali: alcohol would be my only sin ;-0 |
| 21:50.48 | hali | i usually just by lots of "kalles kaviar" and "salt och blandat" |
| 21:50.57 | hali | buy* |
| 21:51.20 | secretlondon | has Loki's simcity 3000 working finally! |
| 21:51.21 | secretlondon | woot |
| 21:51.53 | Discordian | woot indeed |
| 21:52.26 | Nafallo | hali: I plan to buy "Bramhults" ;-0 |
| 21:52.27 | Nafallo | ) |
| 21:54.21 | hali | who's a good supermicro supplier in the UK? |
| 21:54.27 | z00dax | no one |
| 21:54.31 | hali | for built system that is |
| 21:54.38 | Discordian | scam do em |
| 21:54.54 | Discordian | but they're useless |
| 21:55.02 | z00dax | microtronica was one decent source, but bttys not included. |
| 21:55.07 | Nafallo | hali: broadberry is decent |
| 21:55.17 | z00dax | dont get me started on broadberry |
| 21:55.31 | hali | ah, i even had broadberry in my browser history |
| 21:55.38 | Nafallo | z00dax: I know /exactly/ what you mean :-) |
| 21:55.53 | hali | and i can't even think the last time i ordered a non-(dell|sun) server |
| 21:56.02 | Nafallo | z00dax: have you stumbled on someone better though? :-P |
| 21:56.22 | hali | should i just give up my quest for cheaper servers and go with dell |
| 21:56.34 | hali | i need stupid easy to managed Xen compute nodes |
| 21:56.39 | hali | manage* |
| 21:56.56 | z00dax | Nafallo: dnuk have been decent |
| 21:57.00 | z00dax | tyan kit though |
| 21:57.08 | hali | the cheapest option seems to be a blade enclosure from dell |
| 21:57.11 | Nafallo | hali: hmm... I can't remember the name I thought off... |
| 21:57.16 | Nafallo | hali: sentral systems |
| 21:57.20 | Nafallo | :-) |
| 21:57.43 | z00dax | and steamlinbtw, if you talk to John at streamline, he might be able to get you what you want hali |
| 21:57.56 | hali | blimey, they have a 1U box for 275 quid |
| 21:58.28 | antiphas1 | You still get what you pay for ; |
| 21:58.35 | Nafallo | hali: say helo from Nafallo @ lchost if you order from sentral ;-) |
| 21:58.36 | cpufreak | x2200s are piss cheap |
| 21:58.39 | cpufreak | as are dl145s |
| 21:59.02 | hali | x2200's are ok |
| 21:59.10 | cpufreak | x4150s are nice |
| 21:59.13 | cpufreak | and great value too |
| 21:59.28 | cpufreak | if you want computer nodes, I'd go with them tbh |
| 21:59.34 | antiphase | lol bbq |
| 21:59.35 | cpufreak | 8x3.1GHz in 1U |
| 21:59.48 | hali | as the dell 1955's are end of life'd dell offer pretty amazing pricing on them now, and we have a few of those enclosures already and they are pretty good |
| 22:00.08 | hali | "good enough" |
| 22:00.33 | hali | cpufreak: i haven't dared to buy any x4150's yet, i heard the ilom /alom/whatnot was crap |
| 22:01.03 | cpufreak | fine here. |
| 22:01.10 | Nafallo | ugh :-( |
| 22:01.30 | Nafallo | 13 servers and a large diskarray to install on tuesday :-/ |
| 22:01.39 | cpufreak | stop whinging |
| 22:01.51 | cpufreak | thats a piddly amount of servers |
| 22:01.58 | Nafallo | :-P |
| 22:02.06 | cpufreak | and I'm sure its a piddly disk array too |
| 22:02.21 | Discordian | Sounds easy enough via kickstart |
| 22:02.33 | Discordian | or something similar |
| 22:03.14 | Nafallo | cpufreak: 16 disks or whatever :-) |
| 22:03.22 | cpufreak | lol |
| 22:03.32 | antiphase | "large". Is your chopper similarly "large"? |
| 22:03.34 | cpufreak | thats like one disk shelf |
| 22:03.43 | cpufreak | gets camera |
| 22:03.51 | secretlondon | sighs |
| 22:04.15 | Discordian | why the sigh? |
| 22:04.35 | Nafallo | :-P |
| 22:04.39 | hali | too many e-penis' on display? :) |
| 22:04.54 | Discordian | Possibly yes |
| 22:05.21 | Nafallo | oh. suck it up :-P |
| 22:05.29 | Discordian | But too TMI |
| 22:06.06 | secretlondon | nods at hali |
| 22:07.03 | z00dax | ok, so server finally did get rebooted now |
| 22:07.33 | Discordian | working ok now?# |
| 22:08.35 | Nafallo | hali: pubb tisdag kvall? |
| 22:09.16 | Nafallo | hali: kommer vara i THM till sex sakert ;-) |
| 22:09.50 | hali | Nafallo: could do |
| 22:10.03 | hali | Nafallo: big chill perhaps |
| 22:10.17 | Nafallo | hali: sounds good to me :-) |
| 22:10.43 | cpufreak | http://nurburgr.ing.me.uk/stuff/IMG_5629.JPG |
| 22:10.49 | cpufreak | one of our smaller arrays :p |
| 22:11.22 | Nafallo | hali: hmm. but water poet is on the way of course ;-) |
| 22:12.27 | secretlondon | cpufreak: is that you at the front? |
| 22:12.57 | antiphase | Sadly it's me with the cheesy grin |
| 22:15.37 | secretlondon | I'm only glad it wasn't cpufreak's 'chopper' |
| 22:15.49 | cpufreak | erm? |
| 22:16.01 | cpufreak | my chopper is private thanks. |
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| 22:16.05 | secretlondon | thankfully |
| 22:16.08 | secretlondon | <cpufreak> lol |
| 22:16.09 | secretlondon | <antiphase> "large". Is your chopper similarly "large"? |
| 22:16.09 | secretlondon | <cpufreak> thats like one disk shelf |
| 22:16.09 | secretlondon | * cpufreak gets camera |
| 22:16.11 | cpufreak | erm |
| 22:16.15 | cpufreak | that wasn't me |
| 22:16.35 | cpufreak | who was talking about choppers |
| 22:16.37 | secretlondon | okay I'll blame antiphase |
| 22:16.44 | cpufreak | see where it says antiphase ? :) |
| 22:17.06 | cpufreak | ponders sueing for defamation.... :P |
| 22:17.28 | antiphase | gets a restraining order for his chopper |
| 22:35.14 | z00dax | why are your racks setup sideways ? |
| 22:35.44 | cpufreak | erm?\ |
| 22:35.50 | z00dax | antiphase: :D |
| 22:37.13 | z00dax | cpufreak: nevermind me today, just got the phone with a very very slow DC 'remote hands' chap |
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| 22:49.14 | cpufreak | z00dax: ah |
| 22:52.11 | cpufreak | most of our kit is in cogent, interoute, or l(3) datacentres, and all seem pretty good |
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