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| 00:02.18 | secretlondon | if irssi's time stamp is 30 mins behind that of gnome I guess I've lost connection |
| 00:03.08 | wethrin | yes |
| 01:19.58 | wethrin | night |
| 01:20.01 | secretlondon | night |
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| 01:22.20 | Provito | evening |
| 01:22.24 | Provito | <PROTECTED> |
| 01:24.50 | secretlondon | morning |
| 01:42.04 | Provito | I'm quite excited, saw a place we really like. Going to speak to the bank in the morning |
| 01:42.23 | Provito | there's a big office space for me, room for 19" racking |
| 01:42.27 | secretlondon | where abouts? |
| 01:42.32 | Provito | enfield |
| 01:42.35 | Provito | north london |
| 01:42.50 | secretlondon | for housing or office? |
| 01:42.58 | Provito | housing, I work from home |
| 01:43.01 | secretlondon | ok |
| 01:43.20 | Provito | got a 2 bed flat at the mo, one room is an office. We want to move out and have more room |
| 01:43.28 | secretlondon | fair enough |
| 01:43.33 | Provito | I'll be sad to leave the flat though, lovely living here |
| 01:44.08 | Provito | first question was, do you have cable, and I checked the properties for sky dishes |
| 01:44.25 | Provito | adsl + cable + hsdpa obviously :) |
| 01:44.33 | Provito | gotta have the backups! |
| 01:44.49 | secretlondon | we get hsdpa here but v'phone provide a poor service |
| 01:44.53 | secretlondon | no cable |
| 01:45.36 | secretlondon | I presume there are still channels you can get via satellite that you can't get over cable - non english language things etc |
| 01:45.54 | Provito | yeah, like sky 1 for example |
| 01:46.10 | Provito | I'd definately use sky for tv, cable + adsl for internet |
| 01:46.24 | secretlondon | I can't imagine watching sky 1 (although as someone who doesn't have a tv I'm not the best person to ask) |
| 01:46.25 | Provito | with mobile broadband as roaming |
| 01:46.47 | secretlondon | I'm using hsdpa internet here and it keeps losing all throughput |
| 01:47.11 | secretlondon | I get terrible lag too - it's as though they don't have the capacity |
| 01:47.11 | Provito | yeah annoying if it's your primary connection |
| 01:47.20 | Provito | who you with? |
| 01:47.24 | secretlondon | vodafone |
| 01:47.34 | secretlondon | who should be high quality you'd think |
| 01:47.42 | secretlondon | it's also evilly filtered |
| 01:47.48 | Provito | you'd hope so, however I had probably with vodaphone |
| 01:47.55 | Provito | s/probably/problems |
| 01:48.08 | murb | secretlondon: ssh -CD 1080 ftw |
| 01:48.08 | Provito | I hate the filters they add on, and traffic shaping |
| 01:48.32 | secretlondon | the filters are dreadful - what's the traffic shaping? |
| 01:48.37 | secretlondon | murb: what does that do? |
| 01:48.56 | Provito | man ssh, -C Requests compression of all data, -D = Port |
| 01:49.08 | Provito | application-level port forwarding |
| 01:49.23 | secretlondon | they also compress images I think, which is crap when I'm working with photographs (as I do almost daily) |
| 01:49.38 | Provito | yeah you don't want your pron messed with |
| 01:49.45 | secretlondon | it's not porn, if only it was |
| 01:49.49 | Provito | :) |
| 01:50.06 | secretlondon | they block all image hosting, and loads of stuff like all IM progs, all p2p |
| 01:50.23 | secretlondon | it's more like under 12 filter, not over 18 |
| 01:50.43 | secretlondon | and random stuff like an article on a tea ceremony on wikipedia |
| 01:50.50 | Provito | I'd just tunnel through another server and proxy through that |
| 01:51.59 | secretlondon | I don't really have the use of another server I'd feel comfortable about using like that |
| 01:52.16 | secretlondon | I am using tor a hell of a lot though |
| 01:52.52 | secretlondon | I mean how can they ban flickr? |
| 01:53.39 | secretlondon | if it was just porn and gambling Id' probably never crash into it |
| 01:54.04 | secretlondon | I'm having to ssh to wethrin's box to get on irc |
| 01:57.37 | Provito | yeah, I find it annoying when companies have really strict/stupid egress filters |
| 01:57.58 | Provito | all they allow is outgoing 21,80 and 443 |
| 01:58.12 | Provito | so I have to run a ssh server on one of those ports to bounce off |
| 01:58.48 | secretlondon | is it documented anywhere? |
| 01:58.59 | secretlondon | I've found info from them is really poor |
| 01:59.07 | Provito | for what? |
| 01:59.28 | secretlondon | the actual nature of the service - ports, shaping, image filtering and whatever |
| 01:59.39 | secretlondon | the stuff you are blind when you sign up |
| 01:59.55 | Provito | well they should have in the t&c's of course. However.... |
| 02:00.25 | secretlondon | well they don't have them in the t&cs |
| 02:01.59 | Provito | unfortunately they usually get away with a broad sweeping conditions |
| 02:02.00 | secretlondon | people say that vodafone is the most restrictive, but I don't think anyone actually knows |
| 02:02.36 | Provito | perhaps you should nmap every port incoming and outgoing and list what's blocked |
| 02:02.41 | Provito | perhaps others will do the same |
| 02:03.17 | secretlondon | but you've worked out it's just 21,80 and 443 on your vodafone hsdpa? |
| 02:03.50 | Provito | oh no I was talking about some companies networks I work on |
| 02:03.55 | secretlondon | ah ok! |
| 02:04.09 | Provito | sorry should have made that clear :) |
| 02:04.13 | secretlondon | :) |
| 02:46.30 | catalyst | rawr |
| 03:19.27 | LeedsHK | taking the morning off - unofficially - and staying at home, after working past midnight last night, would be a lot more relaxing if someone weren't drilling an external wall directly outside my bed :-( |
| 04:07.30 | secretlondon | night all |
| 04:07.34 | secretlondon | arse -> bed |
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| 15:57.51 | Discordian | good afternoon |
| 16:05.07 | zmey_g | Discordian: good afternoon |
| 16:08.30 | Discordian | Hi zmey_g |
| 16:10.49 | zmey_g | Discordian: any good news? |
| 16:10.59 | Discordian | Not heard as yet |
| 16:11.54 | zmey_g | well here we are. the same crap. |
| 16:14.33 | LeedsHK | greetings to all and sundry from Wednesday! |
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| 16:52.20 | Discordian | I'm still stuck in Tuesday |
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| 18:18.58 | Discordian | Hi |
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| 19:24.53 | ecliptika | Hi people |
| 19:31.42 | Discordian | Lo |
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| 23:50.08 | secretlondon | ello |