IRC log for #gllug on 20080119

00:06.42Paul_UKhi
00:06.51DiscordianLo
00:08.11secretlondonIt looks like I'm going to be at the pembury on sunday
00:08.30secretlondonit's the year anniversary of the sunday geek board games meetings
00:08.48DiscordianBoard games?
00:08.52secretlondonyep
00:09.06DiscordianChess. draughts?
00:09.11Discordianmonopoly?
00:09.33secretlondonand carcossone, settlers of catan, war against terror, whatever people bring
00:10.01Discordiani've never even heard of those
00:10.14DiscordianI might stand a chance at scrabble
00:10.18secretlondonthe first two have wikipedia articles
00:10.22secretlondonthey have scrabble too
00:11.29DiscordianHmmm
00:12.00secretlondonprobs with the pembury is that it's in hackney and everyone eats there which is expensive. Pluses are that it's a real ale pub, free wifi, landlord a geek, tills run linux written by landlord
00:12.09DiscordianDo they do food?
00:12.11secretlondonyes
00:12.30secretlondonhttp://www.individualpubs.co.uk/pembury/
00:13.14DiscordianHmmm looking at the website
00:14.01z00daxwethrin: bookings for fosdem done ?
00:15.14DiscordianIf North Woolwich hadn't closed it'd be doable
00:17.59DiscordianLooks like a trek from here
00:20.33secretlondonI have a trek too. It's either two buses, or tube and train from liverpool street.
00:20.56secretlondonnew east london line should make it a lot easier
00:21.58Discordianwhich might be available one day
00:22.16secretlondonwell it's just closed, so presumably they have the money to reopen it
00:22.22DiscordianI could have hacked it via the old East London line
00:22.55Discordianlast time it closed was for 12 months more like 3 years
00:23.17etorixhttp://www.kdedevelopers.org/node/3213
00:24.04DiscordianI guess train to Lewisham, DLR to Stratford might work
00:24.26DiscordianThat's a 2 hour journey Sundays
00:25.26secretlondonetorix: woo
00:31.34DiscordianI could eat the lamb kebabs if they do em Sundays
00:31.37DiscordianHmm
00:35.14secretlondonthe menu tends to vary daily
00:35.32secretlondonthey also have roasts on sundays
00:37.42DiscordianHmm chicken?
00:38.48DiscordianI'm quite partial to roast chicken and crispy roast potatoes
00:39.26DiscordianAre these board games every Sunday?
00:50.34secretlondonevery sunday
00:50.52secretlondonthey say that this sundays roasts will be beef, pork and nut
00:50.57secretlondonthey often have chicken tho
00:51.05DiscordianMight be doable sunday after this
00:51.36Discordianwe seem to have railway works this Sunday
00:51.53Discordianadd about an hour to the journey each way
00:56.14DiscordianGah sainsbury's don't have any nice cream blue cheese
01:14.12secretlondonblames the debian developer
01:15.29DiscordianNo idea
01:15.57secretlondontuxpaint has just failed to build from source for ubuntu. it looks like debian use dh-iconcahe and ubuntu has removed it
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01:17.42secretlondonbah just confirmed that in ubuntu-bugs
01:36.44secretlondoncan you get them at 1:30 am?
01:36.56DiscordianI'm not sure
01:37.11DiscordianProbably not
01:38.09DiscordianHmmm not answering the phone so I guess no
02:32.14secretlondonme fucks debian packaging (again)
02:32.18secretlondonwhaa
02:51.31LeedsHKmorning all
02:55.49secretlondonmorning Leeds
02:56.07catalystmorning
03:11.02secretlondonI've done my patch :)
03:11.33catalyst\o/
03:11.34catalyst:)
03:11.56secretlondonthe patch itself was one word, farting around with debian packaging took ages
03:12.13secretlondoni'm a noob but the only way not to be a noob is to do that sort of thing..
03:14.35catalystsounds like a good step
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08:05.56DiscordianMorning
08:06.07secretlondonmorning
08:13.45Discordiangah I didn't really sleep at all
08:14.03secretlondonI haven't slept yet
08:14.17Discordianheh
08:15.51DiscordianI'm resisting the temptation to get an egg mcmuffin
08:21.33Discordianegg mcmuffin is only sold till 10:30am
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10:58.47Ch0HagSubject: horses for loan
11:42.28wethrinz00dax: Most booking are done. Nowhere to stay yet
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11:57.26DiscordianHi again
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14:00.07DiscordianLo
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17:15.51DiscordianRe
17:16.09halihi
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21:18.45DiscordianGood evening
23:22.43Ch0HagI found 'Classic Shell Scripting' from O'Reilly lying on the street today.
23:22.50wethrinLucky find
23:22.55DiscordianHeh
23:23.00wethrinDid you give it a good home?
23:23.12Ch0HagIt has one now.
23:23.22Discordianthat's one I don't have
23:23.25Ch0HagActually there were some other computer books there which I didn't get.
23:23.33DiscordianI have the other scripting ones
23:23.33Ch0HagI suppose I should have picked them up for GLLUG.
23:23.43Ch0HagMaybe I will if they're still there tomorrow.
23:23.59DiscordianI must have around 60 paper O'reillys
23:24.00wethrinWhat was there?
23:24.07Ch0HagI can't remember.
23:24.10Discordianand more ebooks
23:24.12Ch0HagSomething about Perl. One about C.
23:24.41Ch0HagA Wrox Linux Programming. I think the same one which currently props up a monitor.
23:24.41wethrinDecent condition?
23:24.45Ch0HagMostly, yeah.
23:24.48wethrinCool
23:24.57wethrinI might be interested in taking some off your hands
23:25.08Ch0HagI'll see if they're around.
23:25.10wethrinSuppose I could even pay postage stuff up to Durham :)
23:25.14Ch0HagProbably some idiot kids got them.
23:25.18wethrinWhen you say lying in the streets........?
23:25.24Ch0HagLiterally.
23:25.31wethrinHow odd
23:25.38Ch0HagAn ex-sandwich shop had them dumped in its doorway.
23:25.39DiscordianI like real books
23:25.50Ch0HagThere's some others I had from a while ago.
23:25.57DiscordianBut they're not very portable
23:26.01Ch0HagI'll round them all up if they've not been attacked and list them.
23:26.07wethrinGood man
23:26.29wethrinTrue. Shifting books is hard
23:27.09DiscordianEbooks I can just put on  a DVD
23:27.13Discordianand take with me
23:29.01Ch0HagEbooks are good for searcing.
23:29.20Ch0HagIf I need to go somewhere the need for books rarely trumps the need for Google.
23:29.34DiscordianYou can't grep dead trees, true
23:30.15wethrinThat's what the Index is for
23:30.41Discordianindexes can be like the Curates egg
23:30.45DiscordianGood in parts
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23:31.14DiscordianSome of the O'Reilly ones aren't very good
23:33.18DiscordianI buy the O'Reilly CD Bookshelve things (unix, networking, web, webmaster, xml)
23:33.42DiscordianThey're handy if you're contracting
23:33.51DiscordianOh and the perl one
23:35.45DiscordianI met Tim O'Reilly once at a Linux exhibition
23:35.50Ch0HagThe best thing about books is finding out stuff you're not looking for.
23:35.57wethrinHe came to Fosdem a couple of years ago
23:35.58Ch0HagBut for that we have wikipedia: http://www.explosm.net/comics/1128/
23:36.15DiscordianThis was 1990s
23:37.28Discordiani've various O'reillys (paper ones) on windows and Macos too
23:40.12wethrinHm. I still need to review my copy of the Cisco IOS Cookbook
23:41.00DiscordianI've the Sendmail, DNS cookbooks
23:41.07DiscordianThey're excellent
23:41.53wethrinThe Cisco one certainly looks like it should be useful
23:41.53wethrinBut so far I've only skimmed over it, and read the table of contents
23:41.53DiscordianOh and the Apache one

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