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| 05:09.58 | Leeds | well that's a positive start... she's heard of the film, she'd like to see it, and she's happy to see it with me... |
| 07:27.58 | andrew___ | Just found a bug on facebook - if you list messages at 7:00 it reckongs messages sent yesterday are today. |
| 07:28.06 | andrew___ | SOund like a timezone issue |
| 07:41.46 | Leeds | I've seen a few timezone issues |
| 07:41.56 | polyunix | morning all |
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| 07:42.30 | Leeds | it's worth noting that at least some of the messages connected with 'applications' are not generated by facebook's own servers, so could well just be running in the application's home server timezone |
| 07:56.26 | BatChainPuller | Morning |
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| 08:15.47 | gregj | shit, just when I started working for a company, they are under restructurization, and made me redundant yesterday |
| 08:15.51 | gregj | fuck |
| 08:17.50 | Leeds | bummer |
| 08:18.08 | Leeds | no payout, I assume |
| 08:19.04 | BatChainPuller | That's very bad luck |
| 08:46.26 | Cope | moin |
| 08:47.46 | Cope | gregj: sorry to hear that :( |
| 08:52.33 | hali | BatChainPuller: did that bloke call re that job? |
| 09:09.20 | BatChainPuller | Hali: yes thank you |
| 09:09.34 | BatChainPuller | Waiting now to see what they make of my CV |
| 09:09.50 | hali | ok |
| 09:14.37 | wethrin | gregj: that sucks :( |
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| 09:49.36 | goibhniu | rhowe: can I PM you? |
| 09:49.55 | wethrin | goibhniu: He probably won't reply :) |
| 09:50.11 | goibhniu | is he awol? |
| 09:50.21 | wethrin | he often is |
| 09:50.25 | goibhniu | :( |
| 09:55.35 | goibhniu | any python/linux heads interested in a contract job in Woking? |
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| 10:40.25 | goibhniu | yay! ... I can rent a cargo bike to move house :D |
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| 10:45.05 | dick_turpin | Anyone here a clever clogs with DNS and MX Records? |
| 10:45.26 | antiphase | They're not terribly difficult |
| 10:46.23 | dick_turpin | I need some insider info on the QT for something that is going on here, I think I'm being fibbed too |
| 10:47.05 | antiphase | Lay it on me brother |
| 10:47.43 | dick_turpin | We have researched this condition and found that the mail DNS record, aka, MX record provided for your domain is not a 'real' |
| 10:47.56 | dick_turpin | mail transfer agent/mail server, but is a CNAME reference to a 'real' mail transfer agent/mail server. |
| 10:48.04 | antiphase | That would be somewhat illegal |
| 10:48.17 | dick_turpin | This configuration is non-compliant per RFC 1034 and is causing mail delivery failures. |
| 10:48.41 | wethrin | MX records shouldn't point at CNAMEs |
| 10:48.43 | wethrin | It's bad form |
| 10:49.11 | dick_turpin | OK, my actual question is ossibly in two parts |
| 10:49.20 | dick_turpin | possibly |
| 10:49.46 | dick_turpin | 1. How could an outside body determin what was actually being used? |
| 10:50.00 | antiphase | DNS is public, otherwise it wouldn't be much use :) |
| 10:50.32 | dick_turpin | antiphase: Keep in mind I'm not clued up on this stuff |
| 10:51.27 | dick_turpin | I'm being told we don't do the above accusation with the comment "How do they know what our settings are?" |
| 10:52.09 | dick_turpin | So my my question is how could someone determin that, or are they jsut guessing? |
| 10:52.14 | bilarh | well, what's your domain then? |
| 10:52.21 | antiphase | Using dig, or host, or nslookup |
| 10:52.22 | bilarh | you can determine it with nslookup :) |
| 10:52.27 | wethrin | dick_turpin: 'host -t mx $yourdomain' |
| 10:52.36 | wethrin | then 'host $result' |
| 10:52.55 | dick_turpin | wethrin: 1 sec I'll have to switch boxes |
| 10:56.19 | dick_turpin | not found: 3(NXDOMAIN) |
| 10:57.12 | antiphase | You did replace $yourdomain with the name of your domain? |
| 10:58.01 | dick_turpin | antiphase: yes |
| 10:59.28 | wethrin | what is your domain? |
| 10:59.40 | dick_turpin | Hm what does non-authoratative answer mean? |
| 11:00.24 | antiphase | You got the reply from a resolver rather than the machine to which the NS records for the domain refer |
| 11:00.36 | antiphase | Nothing to worry about particularly |
| 11:01.08 | dick_turpin | wethrin: Its a customers actually, I get along with them pretty well but our so-called webmaster is an expert at hash-ups |
| 11:02.37 | dick_turpin | The customer cannot send to a USA recipieant so the US have sent a mail saying we are using CNAME. I want to get to the bottom of it and find out if I'm being bull shi...d |
| 11:06.30 | antiphase | So look up the MX records for the domain using your favourite command line resolver, and if the results indicate that the MX records refer to a CNAME, they are not pulling your pud |
| 11:08.01 | dick_turpin | antiphase: I just used dig and got an IP back, no mention of CNAME though |
| 11:08.41 | wethrin | dick_turpin: What domain? |
| 11:09.38 | bilarh | wethrin: dick turpin must have finally put us on his ignore list :P |
| 11:10.43 | wethrin | indeed |
| 11:10.53 | dick_turpin | NO I'm not, I'm just being cagey about giving out my customers domain |
| 11:11.16 | bilarh | dick_turpin: yeah i know, i was just kidding :P |
| 11:11.39 | antiphase | You have to be careful about those domains, once they get out it's all over |
| 11:11.46 | bilarh | although being on your ignore list would have meant i could mock you all i wanted with no comeback :) |
| 11:12.00 | antiphase | Especially if you MX records, people can actually send you email! |
| 11:12.05 | antiphase | Terrifying. |
| 11:12.09 | bilarh | but then again mocking is no fun when the subject doesn't know about it :-\ |
| 11:12.33 | bilarh | please don't put me on ignore! my afternoon 'work' would be so boring :'( |
| 11:13.48 | wethrin | dick_turpin: domains are public, y'know |
| 11:13.53 | dick_turpin | bilarh: STFU i'm being seriuos for once, looks like the shits ready to hit the fan |
| 11:14.17 | wethrin | There's really no point in registering a domain just to keep it secret |
| 11:14.24 | wethrin | but if you're worried, just send a /msg |
| 11:14.44 | dick_turpin | wethrin: do I do 'dig sales@somedomain.co.uk' |
| 11:14.58 | wethrin | you could |
| 11:15.08 | wethrin | I always preferred the output of 'host' because it's short and to the point |
| 11:15.15 | bilarh | dick_turpin: sowwy :-( |
| 11:15.28 | antiphase | `dig +short` 4tw |
| 11:15.45 | dick_turpin | antiphase: What s that? |
| 11:16.14 | antiphase | +short is an option to dig that makes its output very terse, therefore it is For The Win |
| 11:16.31 | dick_turpin | antiphase: Ah, K |
| 11:16.42 | antiphase | I don't like the output of host because it's human-readable and not good for writing mad skriptz |
| 11:17.17 | dick_turpin | wethrin: Can I find out from my F7 client thats on 'Works' network or do I have to be on the mail-server? |
| 11:17.30 | wethrin | antiphase: Well, fair enough. I only ever use it as a human |
| 11:17.36 | wethrin | dick_turpin: Anywhere |
| 11:17.41 | wethrin | DNS is public information |
| 11:17.43 | dick_turpin | wethrin: K |
| 11:18.09 | wethrin | Okay....let's give you an example here |
| 11:18.16 | bilarh | wethrin: i'm guessing it's more a case of "the company x dosen't want everyone to know that y is a client of theirs" and vice versa |
| 11:18.29 | wethrin | dankolb@hades:~$ host -t mx eco.li |
| 11:18.29 | wethrin | eco.li mail is handled by 30 urchin.earth.li. |
| 11:18.29 | wethrin | eco.li mail is handled by 10 mail.eco.li. |
| 11:18.39 | wethrin | dankolb@hades:~$ host mail.eco.li |
| 11:18.39 | wethrin | mail.eco.li has address 195.10.223.77 |
| 11:18.42 | dick_turpin | bilarh: I've not forgotten you |
| 11:18.46 | wethrin | that's an A record |
| 11:19.04 | bilarh | dick_turpin: no i was just suggesting reasons for not giving out the domain name :-) |
| 11:19.13 | wethrin | now, let's look for a CNAME... |
| 11:19.22 | wethrin | dankolb@hades:~$ host dl.eco.li |
| 11:19.22 | wethrin | dl.eco.li is an alias for hades.eco.li. |
| 11:19.22 | wethrin | hades.eco.li has address 195.10.223.77 |
| 11:19.36 | wethrin | Not the extra line in the output |
| 11:20.10 | wethrin | if you do the same commands (for my domain) on your system, you should get pretty much the same output |
| 11:20.47 | dick_turpin | wethrin: k reading your post |
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| 11:38.04 | dick_turpin | Thanks to wethrin for proving I am being lied too/ having the wool pulled over my eyes |
| 11:39.23 | gregj | wethrin: yeah,sounds like definition of my life |
| 11:39.29 | gregj | 'it sux' |
| 11:39.34 | wethrin | mmm |
| 11:39.49 | bilarh | dick_turpin: you have an unhealthy obsession with kicking me up my bum |
| 11:40.02 | bilarh | dick_turpin: i'm just not sure if it's unhealthy for me or for you :-\ |
| 11:40.26 | dick_turpin | bilarh: I like loosing my foot up there you fat arse :-P ;-) |
| 11:40.29 | wethrin | lied to by whom? |
| 11:41.10 | bilarh | dick_turpin: ewww ... next time you do it you'll get some free nuggets |
| 11:41.30 | dick_turpin | wethrin: my webmaster and Directors, twats, I know this is recorded I don't care |
| 11:41.48 | wethrin | ahhh, okay |
| 11:43.29 | dick_turpin | bilarh: Next time I want the Range Rover back that I parked up there :-P |
| 11:43.51 | bilarh | dick_turpin: yo mum! |
| 11:44.14 | dick_turpin | bilarh: Why aren't you working? |
| 11:44.25 | bilarh | dick_turpin: it's called a "lunch break" |
| 11:45.46 | goibhniu | dick_turpin: how's halo? |
| 11:47.06 | dick_turpin | goibhniu: Piss off, I have it here, went to the game shop this morning, came into work late because of it I want to go home and play it |
| 11:47.37 | dick_turpin | bilarh: You rich git you can afford to eat!!! |
| 11:48.28 | bilarh | dick_turpin: it's an almost free lunch |
| 11:49.03 | dick_turpin | bilarh: Huh I hear 'life' for you is a *Free Lunch* ;-) |
| 11:49.53 | bilarh | dick_turpin: i finished it all :( |
| 11:50.11 | bilarh | hence why i could lease my arse to you as a garage for your land rover |
| 11:51.48 | bilarh | do that knuckle trick too |
| 11:51.58 | bilarh | i've got a full barnet now again |
| 11:53.28 | dick_turpin | bilarh: Not for much longer, I've sold your head to a research lab! |
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| 11:54.16 | bilarh | hey, i never signed my head over to you |
| 11:54.55 | dick_turpin | bilarh: Compulsory purchase I'm afraid |
| 11:55.12 | bilarh | oh well, they can have it, i don't have much use for it anyway |
| 11:55.36 | bilarh | i do most of my thinking with my other head anyway |
| 11:56.27 | BatChainPuller | yay, I have an interview Friday! |
| 11:58.10 | dick_turpin | bilarh: I've just had a rejection letter for you're head, they tried a simulation cross with a monkey and the monkey rejected you ;-) |
| 11:58.50 | dick_turpin | goibhniu: Now where you gone? |
| 11:58.52 | bilarh | dick_turpin: pah, that happens almost every night |
| 11:59.29 | dick_turpin | bilarh: I find that very hard to beleive, good looking guy like you...... |
| 11:59.44 | bilarh | stand easy! |
| 11:59.57 | bilarh | speaking of good looking guys.... did you see the program on sex change yesterday? |
| 12:00.11 | dick_turpin | bilarh: why? was you on it? |
| 12:00.12 | bilarh | all i can say is "hell yes!" :P |
| 12:00.32 | hali | bilarh: so you're having a sex change? |
| 12:00.38 | bilarh | no someone else did |
| 12:00.47 | dick_turpin | hali: rotfl |
| 12:01.00 | hali | bilarh: someone else is having a sex change for you? |
| 12:01.03 | bilarh | i'm confident being a lesbian trapped in a mans body... i've accepted fate |
| 12:01.06 | hali | thats bizzar |
| 12:01.39 | dick_turpin | bilarh: You're at the Bizzar? how much are you priced at? |
| 12:01.56 | bilarh | dick_turpin: three camels or 400 egyptian pounds |
| 12:02.49 | bilarh | you should try eating them |
| 12:03.02 | dick_turpin | bilarh: Three camels! I'll give you very good price 1 lame duck |
| 12:03.07 | hali | ah, that would make more sense actually |
| 12:06.22 | bilarh | dick_turpin: my frrriend, a lame duck?? you must be joking! |
| 12:06.53 | bilarh | hali: smoking is illegal now |
| 12:07.07 | hali | bilarh: didn't say i was doing it inside |
| 12:07.41 | bilarh | smoking your nuts is probably illegal outside as well |
| 12:08.38 | dick_turpin | bilarh: You drive a hard bargain my friend, 1 lame duck and a ticket to see Dirty Dancing |
| 12:10.33 | bilarh | dick_turpin: my friend, my friend, my friend, why are you wasting my time? this dirty dancing thing, does it have women in it?! |
| 12:11.20 | bilarh | dick_turpin: let me offer you a tea, a sign of our bizarre hospitality |
| 12:11.26 | dick_turpin | bilarh: Yes two actually ones called Patrick but don't let that put you off |
| 12:11.54 | bilarh | rofl |
| 12:13.14 | bilarh | dick_turpin: aah, now about the price... 2.8 camels for a friend |
| 12:13.38 | bilarh | dick_turpin: with *two* humps, not the one hump fake ones! |
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| 12:14.23 | dick_turpin | bilarh: 1 lame duck, a ticket for dirty dancing and a picture of Fatima Whitbreads bum |
| 12:14.55 | bilarh | dick_turpin: but my friend.... that is a good price for you, not for me! |
| 12:15.40 | bilarh | dick_turpin: my friend, give me two ducks and the ticket for the girl named patrick |
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| 12:18.02 | dick_turpin | bilarh: 1 lame duck, ticket for dirty dancing, Fatima's bum and used strepsil http://www.strepsils.co.uk/main1f20.html?pid=3427 |
| 12:18.50 | bilarh | fine! |
| 12:18.56 | bilarh | more tea? |
| 12:19.19 | dick_turpin | bilarh: why not your paying for it |
| 12:20.08 | dick_turpin | bilarh: Drinking Urine is good for you |
| 12:20.10 | bilarh | dick_turpin: here you go, my friend! |
| 12:20.31 | bilarh | dick_turpin: *psst* funny you should say that, our special tea has camel piss in it |
| 12:22.47 | dick_turpin | bilarh: S'funny most of the peoples tea round here tastes like cats piss, tea should look slightly orange and have a slight bite to it (I should know used to sell the bloody stuff) |
| 12:24.18 | bilarh | umm... what could it possibly look like *except* for slightly orange? |
| 12:24.41 | dick_turpin | bilarh: White, far too much milk in it |
| 12:25.01 | bilarh | milk in hot water is a real winner |
| 12:25.08 | dick_turpin | bilarh: Or not left to brew for long enough |
| 12:25.51 | boudiccas | it should brew for five minutes |
| 12:26.03 | boudiccas | and then just a smidgeon of milk |
| 12:26.10 | dick_turpin | boudiccas: :-* |
| 12:26.17 | boudiccas | cigars :) |
| 12:26.53 | bilarh | oh get a room you two |
| 12:27.35 | dick_turpin | boudiccas: I own bilarh, just clintched a deal to buy him I'm looking to sell him on I'm only asking 15 Camels |
| 12:28.08 | boudiccas | i remember a cigarette brand called camels |
| 12:28.17 | boudiccas | french i think they were |
| 12:28.30 | bilarh | will everyone just *quit smoking* for gods sake, i can't breathe in here |
| 12:28.44 | boudiccas | but i don't smoke |
| 12:29.09 | bilarh | maybe it's dick_turpin who hasn't washed again then |
| 12:29.33 | boudiccas | sometimes i fume gently but i don't really smoke. i might have the odd two roll up cigarretes but i don't class myself asa smoker |
| 12:30.42 | boudiccas | its windy outside here today |
| 12:30.50 | dick_turpin | bilarh: I've succeded in giving up, 3rd day without any patches |
| 12:31.10 | bilarh | dick_turpin: until the next mx record debacle! |
| 12:31.15 | boudiccas | dick_turpin; you've been smoking the patches? weren't they difficult to light? |
| 12:31.33 | bilarh | dick_turpin: well done btw... you should speak to my dad, he's an expert at giving up... he's given up at least 5 times by now |
| 12:31.57 | dick_turpin | boudiccas: You're a very naughty girl and.... crap I keep forgetting |
| 12:32.13 | boudiccas | i have this feeling of deja vue |
| 12:32.59 | dick_turpin | bilarh: 3rd time for me but I intend to stay that way, TBH theres gonna be nowhere to smoke soon anyway |
| 12:33.11 | boudiccas | i tried giving up with the patches but i didn't like the sticky residue they left behind, plus they irritated my skin. so i gave up wiuthout the patches in the end |
| 12:33.36 | dick_turpin | boudiccas: Stop feeling Deja Vue he dosen't like it |
| 12:34.10 | boudiccas | i never used to smoke away from home, never took my smoking materials with me and i therefore kept it to a minimum |
| 12:34.26 | boudiccas | lol |
| 12:42.54 | bilarh | gotta love sam the seagull: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kqy9hxhUxK0&mode=related&search= |
| 12:59.54 | boudiccas | Member of the toughest, meanest, deadliest, most unrelenting -- and ablest -- form of life in this section of space, a critter that can be killed but can't be tamed. --Robert A. Heinlein, "The Puppet Masters" |
| 13:04.35 | hali | *cry* the recyclers are taking away my old sun servers |
| 13:07.03 | polyunix | can anybody enlighten me on sabayon f: and sabayon e: both stable. what the difference between two of them please. |
| 13:10.31 | bilarh | dick_turpin: rofl, but i can't see a bilarh anywhere! |
| 13:10.47 | bilarh | hali: they need to die! |
| 13:10.52 | bilarh | hali: the recyclers, i mean :P |
| 13:12.08 | hali | yes |
| 13:12.29 | hali | the man who claims to be my boss made us throw away a bunch of netra t1's, 220r's and even a 420r |
| 13:12.37 | hali | only let me keep a couple of netras and a 420r |
| 13:12.41 | hali | as spares |
| 13:12.45 | dick_turpin | bilarh: I know I was gonna do a really good job but twats keep phoning up, I mean whadda they think I'm here to help them? |
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| 13:15.04 | dick_turpin | hali: Don't worry they'll be offered to the likes of me for sale, then in six months time I'll sell you back the HDD's (Or other bits) that you now desperatly need. I just love the IT industry |
| 13:17.58 | BatChainPuller | Shame to ditch decent sun kit |
| 13:20.04 | goibhniu | don't sun do cradle to cradle recycling? ... did they collect? |
| 13:20.05 | bilarh | dick_turpin: oh no, i've found him... he's hanging on one of the railings behind: http://www.bilar.co.uk/bilarh-sale-there-he-is.jpg |
| 13:20.40 | wethrin | hali: Bastard! I'd have taken the Netras off your hands |
| 13:20.42 | wethrin | They're nice bits of kit |
| 13:20.48 | gw280 | flaming DEATH!!! |
| 13:21.07 | wethrin | Good afternoon, gw280 |
| 13:21.10 | gw280 | hi. |
| 13:21.13 | wethrin | You filthy tab. |
| 13:21.17 | wethrin | Are you back in college yet? |
| 13:21.22 | Cope | hello gw280 |
| 13:21.32 | gw280 | ello |
| 13:21.35 | gw280 | I'm always in college |
| 13:21.38 | gw280 | I live here... |
| 13:21.46 | wethrin | oh, yes. |
| 13:27.57 | dick_turpin | hali: Just out of interest, any idea of the name of the recyclers? |
| 13:29.44 | dick_turpin | goibhniu: You back then? |
| 13:29.59 | goibhniu | dick_turpin: oi .. just had paster |
| 13:30.22 | goibhniu | wanna see my trike? |
| 13:30.23 | dick_turpin | goibhniu: You've missed all the fun again |
| 13:30.34 | goibhniu | http://www.velorution.biz/images/maximus_cargosoft_yell_l.jpg |
| 13:30.55 | dick_turpin | goibhniu: Yeah yeah (Phones4you add) course you don't watch tele |
| 13:31.21 | goibhniu | oh :( ... what am I missing? |
| 13:31.27 | dick_turpin | goibhniu: You gonna run a taxi/rikshaw business then? |
| 13:31.36 | goibhniu | nah .. just renting it for the day |
| 13:31.52 | goibhniu | I'm dead happy that it's possible in this stinky city |
| 13:32.03 | dick_turpin | bilarh: rotfl you're picture editing skills are as good as mine |
| 13:32.38 | bilarh | 'we aim to pleasure' |
| 13:32.55 | dick_turpin | goibhniu: You could run a very good sandwich business out the back of that |
| 13:34.00 | goibhniu | why is it that mac users can never download anything? |
| 13:34.23 | goibhniu | is there no way to right-click save-as? |
| 13:34.56 | dick_turpin | goibhniu: I've sold bilarh to a punter on Pekham Market |
| 13:34.59 | goibhniu | by anything ... I mean a movie file |
| 13:37.15 | dick_turpin | Right I'm going down the shop to buy loads of chocolate so I can stay awake all night playing Halo 3 brb |
| 13:39.47 | boudiccas | dick_turpin; won't your harem complain of your being awake all night playing a computer game? |
| 13:40.14 | goibhniu | polyunix: good question ... I guess F is newer ... but why are they still showing E? |
| 13:40.15 | bilarh | harem hehe :D |
| 13:40.56 | bilarh | man, i'm so easy... make any stupid joke containing a sexual reference, no matter how vague, and i'll laugh :-\ |
| 13:41.11 | bilarh | note to self: must mature! |
| 13:41.40 | boudiccas | note to bilarh mature like cheese, gradually and with a bit of mould |
| 13:42.03 | polyunix | goibhniu>: i just decided, i need it soo badly. |
| 13:43.59 | goibhniu | polyunix: I hear it's a nice distro |
| 13:46.18 | polyunix | goibhniu>: btw. it's about mint. a friend of mine has ati r300 card. he straggled to make it work with compiz. Mint's done it. the guy is over the moon!!! |
| 13:47.07 | dick_turpin | boudiccas: The girls might be tempted to stop up with me, I get rid of the wife tonight |
| 13:47.18 | boudiccas | ah, i did wonder |
| 13:48.34 | polyunix | goibhniu>: exactly! i like gentoo terminal colour scheme and as i have some cli project i decided to install it. |
| 13:49.04 | goibhniu | that's the best reason to choose a distro I've ever heard! :) |
| 13:49.48 | bilarh | boudiccas: halfway there... i smell like one |
| 13:49.54 | dick_turpin | Anyone know of a PC/Hardware/audit database type app I can download? I keep 3 or 4 PC's Monitors, laptops etc in stock but I have to keep the specs in my head |
| 13:50.20 | dick_turpin | I'd like to have it so everyone internally can see what we have |
| 13:50.33 | boudiccas | dick_turpin; use notecase |
| 13:50.48 | polyunix | goibhniu>: i don't want to go into details like gentoo is the fastest from the penguins ans so on and on :). |
| 13:51.17 | boudiccas | polyunix; why are you trying to escape from the penguins? |
| 13:51.59 | goibhniu | also a good point ... gentoos are mighty cute penguins |
| 13:52.37 | boudiccas | has anyone seen 'Surfs Up'? about penguins surfing! |
| 13:52.38 | dick_turpin | boudiccas: Hm, I was hoping for an IT specific thing, Like CPU, Memory, HDD ect that way I could do a search on say P4 2.8 |
| 13:52.38 | polyunix | boudiccas>: have you heard the story like one of them bite T. Linux at the finish zoo? |
| 13:52.44 | goibhniu | and don't forget larry the male cow |
| 13:54.24 | boudiccas | dick_turpin; you can set notecase up as you like and search for what you like, its a good little program |
| 13:54.41 | boudiccas | polyunix; no, i haven't. do tell please? |
| 13:54.48 | dick_turpin | boudiccas: k will have a play tnx |
| 13:55.20 | polyunix | boudiccas>: you've heard it now. :) |
| 13:55.26 | goibhniu | boudiccas: is it in the interwebs? |
| 13:56.05 | boudiccas | goibhniu; what? notecase? |
| 13:57.25 | polyunix | boudiccas>: believe it or not. this is one of the myths how Tux has been chosen as a linux logo. |
| 13:57.40 | goibhniu | boudiccas: "surf's up" |
| 13:58.22 | boudiccas | ah, i got it from a torrent from ... http://www.torrentbox.com/account-details.php?id=277561 |
| 13:59.30 | goibhniu | lol ... a whole film about surfing penguins! |
| 13:59.38 | goibhniu | I thought it was a documentary :) |
| 13:59.59 | boudiccas | no, its an animation, a rather clever one too |
| 14:01.41 | goibhniu | cool |
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| 14:03.36 | polyunix | goibhniu>: i'm ready to iron my shoelaces for tonight's venue. |
| 14:03.57 | boudiccas | ironing shoelaces!!!!!!!!!!!!! |
| 14:04.21 | boudiccas | wear sandals, release the geek inside of you |
| 14:04.38 | polyunix | boudiccas>: why such reaction? :)) |
| 14:04.55 | Dj_InstincT | wmy $sth = $dbh->prepare(qq{ |
| 14:04.55 | Dj_InstincT | <PROTECTED> |
| 14:04.55 | Dj_InstincT | <PROTECTED> |
| 14:04.55 | Dj_InstincT | }); |
| 14:05.12 | boudiccas | polyunix; goibhniu>: i'm ready to iron my shoelaces for tonight's venue!!!!!!!! |
| 14:05.54 | polyunix | boudiccas>: simple. to be smart ass! |
| 14:06.02 | boudiccas | lol |
| 14:06.59 | boudiccas | ec tonight |
| 14:06.59 | boudiccas | oops, sorry! wrong channel! |
| 14:06.59 | goibhniu | :D |
| 14:07.55 | polyunix | just wondering when to departure. dont want the same story to happen to me as the last time. |
| 14:09.55 | goibhniu | good call ... it looks pretty easy to find: http://www.streetmap.co.uk/newmap.srf?x=529503&y=182228&z=0&sv=wc1e+6ae&st=2&pc=wc1e+6ae&mapp=newmap.srf&searchp=newsearch.srf |
| 14:11.45 | goibhniu | polyunix: should I bring screwdrivers? |
| 14:12.15 | polyunix | goibhniu>: their was no problems last time to find the place either. |
| 14:12.26 | gw280 | wibblewibble |
| 14:13.36 | polyunix | goibhniu>: duno if it makes any sense now. i'm bidding on ebay for a new screen and when i have it - then might be. |
| 14:13.58 | goibhniu | k |
| 14:14.01 | polyunix | goibhniu>: what you think? |
| 14:14.43 | goibhniu | polyunix: that sounds like a good idea |
| 14:16.21 | goibhniu | does anyone know if macs can handle zip files "out of the box"? |
| 14:16.27 | polyunix | goibhniu>: ok, so no screws! |
| 14:16.49 | polyunix | goibhniu>: yes |
| 14:17.32 | goibhniu | cool ... any idea how a mac user can download a mov file instead of opening it in iSomething? |
| 14:17.37 | polyunix | zip out of the box, and rar with a bit of affords |
| 14:19.19 | polyunix | goibhniu>: dont understand the .mov problem. just download as any other file. |
| 14:19.30 | goibhniu | e.g. ftp://www.muqmuq.co.uk ... mac_user: "I can't save it ...it just opens in iCrap" |
| 14:19.41 | goibhniu | kyp.mov |
| 14:19.57 | goibhniu | I've had this problem a few times already |
| 14:20.13 | polyunix | right click save link as |
| 14:20.23 | goibhniu | ctrl+click? |
| 14:20.35 | polyunix | goibhniu>: i will do it on my mac. 1 sec |
| 14:20.40 | goibhniu | cool .. thanks |
| 14:22.29 | polyunix | yes it works. i use firefox |
| 14:22.46 | goibhniu | ctr+click is it? |
| 14:22.52 | polyunix | with 1 button mouse try control key |
| 14:23.02 | polyunix | or command |
| 14:23.07 | goibhniu | hmm ... I suppose these people use safari |
| 14:23.41 | polyunix | as i remember right the same |
| 14:23.58 | goibhniu | ok, thanks for checking ... I assume they're just all iDiots |
| 14:24.26 | polyunix | i stop using safari as i like firefox. it uses 150mb ram safari 300! |
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| 14:26.26 | polyunix | goibhniu>: they just click on it with very mighty mouse! |
| 14:26.59 | goibhniu | they're probably pressing ctrl and then releasing it before clicking |
| 14:27.03 | goibhniu | or something |
| 14:27.19 | goibhniu | who knows ... I'll try zipping it |
| 14:27.33 | polyunix | it might be not ctr but 'command' key |
| 14:28.33 | goibhniu | too confusing ... if I give them options they'll start crying |
| 14:29.16 | polyunix | :)) |
| 14:30.16 | polyunix | i use trackball with my mac not very mighty mouse. macs idea of 1 button mouse is crap! |
| 14:30.58 | goibhniu | it looks nice though |
| 14:31.26 | goibhniu | did you ever try to use those circular mice they had with imacs!!?? |
| 14:31.50 | polyunix | goibhniu>: it suites for hooves nicely not for hands. p.s. sorry mr. Jobs. |
| 14:32.34 | polyunix | goibhniu>: circular mouse?? |
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| 14:32.43 | BatChainPuller | I use trackballs with all systems |
| 14:33.37 | goibhniu | polyunix: this abomination: http://www.cnet.com.au/i/g/339270889/sc006.jpg |
| 14:34.41 | goibhniu | it insists on turning the button to a position that you can't reach ... if they had two buttons on that sucker there would be lots of tears |
| 14:35.36 | goibhniu | I've never used a trackball |
| 14:36.23 | goibhniu | I think I'm comfortable with a synaptics touch pad now ... but it took some time |
| 14:36.31 | polyunix | BatChainPuller>: imac is my wives system. actually she uses it with a wacom and stylus. i tried it once, luckily for me i escaped with me eyes unhurt!. |
| 14:37.23 | BatChainPuller | heh |
| 14:38.41 | polyunix | goibhniu>: trackball, pads are nice, but i'd better with the keyboard. safer. |
| 14:39.36 | polyunix | goibhniu>: this is an old macs mouse. i saw it with iMac G3. |
| 14:40.27 | BatChainPuller | First thing I bought for my G3 imac was a trackball |
| 14:42.08 | polyunix | BatChainPuller>: yeah, precisely. |
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| 15:03.56 | dick_turpin | Customer: "Our email is down" |
| 15:04.10 | dick_turpin | <PROTECTED> |
| 15:04.25 | dick_turpin | Customer: “We’ve not had any for a couple of hours” |
| 15:04.43 | dick_turpin | “Send me an email with test as the subject” |
| 15:05.00 | dick_turpin | Customer: “Yes we received that back” |
| 15:05.12 | dick_turpin | “Then your email is working you complete and utter toss pot, now sod off” Only kidding on the last bit |
| 15:08.36 | bilarh | which part of the last part? |
| 15:09.33 | boudiccas | lol |
| 15:10.24 | dick_turpin | want to hear my favorite one? |
| 15:10.50 | boudiccas | yes please! |
| 15:12.51 | dick_turpin | Customer: “We can't log on” |
| 15:13.06 | dick_turpin | “Have you re-booted the server?” |
| 15:13.21 | dick_turpin | Customer: “No shall we do that?” |
| 15:13.36 | dick_turpin | “Yes then ring me back” |
| 15:13.49 | dick_turpin | <PROTECTED> |
| 15:14.01 | dick_turpin | Customer: “Someone’s pinched the server, its not there” |
| 15:14.28 | Discordian | Don't host with easynet do they? |
| 15:14.30 | boudiccas | lol |
| 15:14.50 | dick_turpin | These are all true on my kids lives |
| 15:16.19 | dick_turpin | Anymore? |
| 15:17.02 | boudiccas | please |
| 15:17.20 | boudiccas | i'm posting them into my booklcub channel :) |
| 15:17.25 | boudiccas | *bookclub |
| 15:20.34 | boudiccas | its gone orl quiet now |
| 15:20.55 | dick_turpin | got a porn realted one, ready? |
| 15:21.08 | boudiccas | this won't be reposted then :) |
| 15:21.10 | boudiccas | yes |
| 15:21.13 | dick_turpin | Customer: “My Laptop says the Hard Drive’s full” |
| 15:21.31 | dick_turpin | “Drop it in we’ll have a look” |
| 15:21.51 | dick_turpin | Couple of hours later |
| 15:22.17 | dick_turpin | “Its full because of all the porn in My Documents!” |
| 15:22.22 | boudiccas | lol |
| 15:22.31 | dick_turpin | Customer: “What Porn?” |
| 15:22.51 | dick_turpin | “The porn that has been neatly categorized in various folders” |
| 15:23.02 | dick_turpin | Customer: “We’ll how on earth did that get there someone must have broken into my laptop” |
| 15:23.44 | Discordian | Lol |
| 15:23.49 | boudiccas | rofl |
| 15:24.20 | Discordian | Once upon a time I ran the proxy server and the firewall for a london borough council |
| 15:24.21 | dick_turpin | 1 more coz everyone will get bored |
| 15:24.33 | dick_turpin | Discordian: Go on |
| 15:24.39 | Discordian | The cache on the proxy server used to get full |
| 15:24.40 | gregj | http://zlew.org/workingforbanana.jpg |
| 15:24.49 | Discordian | So I had to delete the cache |
| 15:25.07 | Discordian | and mostly it was XXX sites in the cache |
| 15:25.34 | Discordian | Mostly downloaded by the Councillors and the Treasury staff |
| 15:26.21 | Discordian | Dirty buggers |
| 15:27.54 | gregj | ask for bigger disks |
| 15:29.06 | dick_turpin | Customer: “I’d like a wireless PCMCIA card please” |
| 15:29.19 | dick_turpin | “Certainly” |
| 15:29.31 | dick_turpin | Couple of days later |
| 15:29.44 | dick_turpin | Customer: “This card you sold me is broken I cant get on the Internet or anything” |
| 15:29.57 | dick_turpin | “Do you have a Wireless router?” |
| 15:30.06 | dick_turpin | Customer: “What’s one of them?” |
| 15:30.42 | gregj | rotfl |
| 15:31.24 | dick_turpin | very very true story, but from one of my suppliers |
| 15:31.49 | dick_turpin | Who remembers the AOL TV adds for Broad Band? |
| 15:32.48 | dick_turpin | The Add ran: Dad brings home an AOL box, plonks it on the Dining table and films, music ect pops out |
| 15:33.07 | dick_turpin | Bloke buys one from my suppliers |
| 15:33.26 | dick_turpin | phones up the next day "Its F'ing broken" |
| 15:33.49 | dick_turpin | supplier "Are you in front of your computer?" |
| 15:34.04 | dick_turpin | Bloke: "I aint got one of them" |
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| 15:34.52 | dick_turpin | Thats a true storey bloke thought it just popped out the box like a hologram |
| 15:35.58 | dick_turpin | goibhniu: Only if I can ride your tricycle and have one of them hooting noses |
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| 15:36.40 | goibhniu | dick_turpin: done! |
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| 15:36.50 | dick_turpin | goibhniu: Honk honk |
| 15:37.10 | dick_turpin | AnneC|away: Should I stay or should I go now |
| 15:37.21 | dick_turpin | If I stay there will be trouble |
| 15:37.38 | AnneC|away | get back to work dick_turpin |
| 15:37.39 | dick_turpin | goibhniu: Over to you to finish off |
| 15:37.52 | goibhniu | dick_turpin: how many minutes to halo 3? |
| 15:38.36 | dick_turpin | goibhniu: I've been reading the official guide book all afternoon, wearing velvet gloves so as not to mark it :-P |
| 15:39.33 | goibhniu | hehe ... I've only seem some pictures of halo at the gllug talk on saturday ... I gather it's fun |
| 15:39.50 | dick_turpin | goibhniu: I tried to bribe the scumbag spotty erbert in the game shop to sell me someones 'Legendary version' but he was too scared to take the bribe |
| 15:40.26 | goibhniu | do you talk to other players with a headset etc? |
| 15:40.49 | goibhniu | I heard about someone who does a video blog through halo too |
| 15:41.37 | dick_turpin | goibhniu: No I'm a smart arse, if you don't go on line then you can brag about your prowess, if you go on line you get thrashed to buggery bollocks |
| 15:42.47 | dick_turpin | goibhniu: My brother-in-law goes on-line reckons every time he walks in he gets shot in the head, whats the fun in that |
| 15:43.00 | Leeds | Cope: ping? |
| 15:43.37 | goibhniu | dick_turpin: http://thisspartanlife.com/ is the interview thing |
| 15:44.27 | goibhniu | I gather they just walk around some map and talk ... and two other people look at them (the cameras) ... then they edit the footage |
| 15:45.03 | dick_turpin | goibhniu: Actually these on-line games are very much like forums, mailing lists and some IRC channels, one or two people lurk in the background ready to shoot you in the head |
| 15:45.14 | goibhniu | I always thought the on-line part of those games was where the fun was |
| 15:45.20 | goibhniu | hehe |
| 15:46.59 | dick_turpin | goibhniu: Trouble is there's always some twat who knows the map inside out and waits in just the right place to pick you off |
| 15:51.44 | polyunix | goibhniu>: i'm off to London now. |
| 15:52.03 | goibhniu | polyunix: see you there |
| 15:52.11 | polyunix | see you |
| 15:53.18 | dick_turpin | goibhniu: Right 60 Minutes and counting, I leave here at 17.30 should get home around 17.49 Halo 3 will be loaded at 17.53 |
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| 17:53.18 | Cope | Leeds: 3am!? |
| 17:56.41 | gw280 | http://mail.gnome.org/archives/desktop-devel-list/2007-September/msg00330.html |
| 17:56.47 | gw280 | I'm famous! :P |
| 17:58.29 | Cope | hehe |
| 17:58.54 | gw280 | also, someone who doesn't seem to get it: |
| 17:58.56 | gw280 | 18:58:13 <Malte> "copyright"? I thought you were writing open source software... |
| 17:59.03 | wethrin | sigh |
| 17:59.11 | wethrin | people are fools |
| 18:01.22 | Cope | people are rubbish |
| 18:01.28 | gw280 | indeed |
| 18:01.28 | Cope | I can't recommend people |
| 18:01.38 | gw280 | I've now reclassified him as a noob. |
| 18:01.45 | gw280 | in light of this recent noobishness |
| 18:01.47 | Cope | s/noob/twat/ |
| 18:01.56 | gw280 | heh. |
| 18:06.03 | gw280 | Cope doesn't mince his words |
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| 19:24.15 | Ch0Hag | "Could not stop connection 'OTC' because service was 6." |
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| 21:25.33 | hali | so, beer it is |
| 21:25.52 | Discordian | beer is good |
| 21:43.57 | wethrin | yes, beer++ |
| 22:01.53 | Cope | lo |
| 22:02.01 | Discordian | lo |
| 22:02.30 | wethrin | hi |
| 23:10.33 | Discordian | lo |
| 23:30.55 | gregj | russia just declared, that by net year the same time, they will get rid of m$ software from schools, and put linuxes on PCs instead |
