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| 00:12.39 | wethrin | oh dear |
| 00:44.52 | wethrin | z00dax: ping? |
| 00:45.00 | z00dax | wethrin: pong |
| 00:45.10 | wethrin | I've not heard back from Steve yet |
| 00:46.10 | wethrin | which is a bit bothersome, as it'd be good to get the meeting announcements out |
| 00:47.29 | z00dax | yes, we're again getting quit close to the date itsef |
| 00:47.33 | z00dax | itself |
| 00:49.02 | wethrin | We could announce it with the two current speakers, and a slot for lightning talks (asking for volunteers). Can always re-announce if/when Steve replies |
| 00:49.07 | wethrin | Or try and find someone else |
| 00:55.59 | wethrin | nn! |
| 00:56.17 | z00dax | cool, lets talk about this in the evening tom, i must get some sleep now |
| 01:32.09 | gw280 | COWS!!!! |
| 01:32.09 | gw280 | RIFLES!!! |
| 01:39.31 | gw280 | Leeds: thanks for that. |
| 01:40.23 | Leeds | you are not a large bearded Scottish man, and therefore have no chance of tossing anything like far enough |
| 01:40.31 | Leeds | even if you are a farmous tosser... |
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| 07:19.35 | morsing | Leeds? |
| 07:19.43 | Leeds | yes |
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| 07:53.34 | morsing | Steve! |
| 09:27.40 | morsing | ping wethrin |
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| 09:39.25 | hali | mornin' |
| 09:39.59 | morsing | catalyst``! |
| 09:40.01 | morsing | hali! |
| 09:40.05 | catalyst`` | heylo |
| 09:40.05 | morsing | catalyst! |
| 09:40.14 | catalyst | oic |
| 09:40.26 | catalyst | two versions of x-chat for tiwce the fun :) |
| 09:40.28 | catalyst | twice too |
| 09:40.30 | catalyst | morsing! |
| 09:40.43 | hali | irssi - all the fun you need |
| 09:51.37 | morsing | Beer |
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| 10:02.16 | morsing | asht_007! |
| 10:02.18 | morsing | goibhniu! |
| 10:02.20 | morsing | niv_one_three! |
| 10:02.27 | morsing | You people are exhausting me |
| 10:03.52 | Leeds | morsing: then stop shouting at everyone as they walk in the door :-) |
| 10:04.03 | Leeds | and it's not beer time for another hour or so... |
| 10:04.18 | niv_one_three | hm... bear |
| 10:04.39 | niv_one_three | it is unusual to have bear at lunch in Israel |
| 10:05.04 | goibhniu | morsing! |
| 10:09.27 | Leeds | kosher bear? |
| 10:10.08 | goibhniu | Adam Curtis does it again http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Trap_%28television_documentary_series%29 |
| 10:10.17 | goibhniu | I can't wait to download it |
| 10:10.54 | goibhniu | "how a simplistic model of human beings as self-seeking, almost robotic, creatures led to today's idea of freedom." |
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| 10:22.42 | morsing | tripitaka! |
| 10:23.00 | morsing | Leeds: It's not shouting. UPPERCASE IS SHOUTING! |
| 10:23.07 | tripitaka | hello hello |
| 10:23.23 | morsing | I don't think you people respect the hard work it is being the greeter on three channels! |
| 10:24.52 | morsing | Some appriciation would be nice :( |
| 10:25.37 | goibhniu | morsing: when you weren't here #gllug was shite ... don't go on holidays again |
| 10:25.50 | morsing | :) |
| 10:25.54 | morsing | I love you goibhniu |
| 10:26.53 | morsing | goibhniu: Are you going to the next meeting? |
| 10:28.20 | goibhniu | morsing: I respect you too |
| 10:28.24 | morsing | :) |
| 10:28.56 | goibhniu | I'd love to go .. I'm a little worried I have to fill out some tax forms ... I'm gonna try it this weekend though |
| 10:29.41 | goibhniu | they sent me a funny one during the week which had a line through 2006 and said treat as 2005 ... they have a great sense of humour |
| 10:29.52 | morsing | goibhniu: Can you teach me how to? Will need to know soon I hope |
| 10:30.36 | goibhniu | morsing: I don't think there is any way to learn ... just try to work through it in some logically consistent way and keep notes for when they summon you to court |
| 10:30.49 | morsing | Nice |
| 10:31.05 | goibhniu | morsing: any logic will do |
| 10:31.14 | morsing | Fuzzy logic? |
| 10:34.03 | morsing | goibhniu: Do you get my PMs? |
| 10:34.42 | goibhniu | morsing: hmm .. I guess not? |
| 10:35.20 | goibhniu | morsing: Fuzzy logic is fine .. you can even use predicate logic if you choose your chains of inference carefully |
| 10:36.53 | morsing | goibhniu: I think you need to identify? |
| 10:37.25 | goibhniu | /whoami |
| 10:41.10 | catalyst | it turns out the reason that dabs have a sapphire radeom X1950 pro in stock is because they currently aren't allowing anyone to buy anything /o\ |
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| 10:52.23 | resiak | Hrm, I should join this lug anyway. |
| 10:52.38 | morsing | resiak! |
| 10:53.33 | Leeds | yes, you should |
| 10:53.35 | resiak | Leeds informs me that so... hi! ...meone here has done SoC. I'm working on a proposal, adn I'm wondering how detailed an accepted one might be. |
| 10:53.52 | gw280 | lalala |
| 10:54.06 | Leeds | resiak: meet gw280... please don't leave too much blood on the floor |
| 10:54.19 | gw280 | hrmm? |
| 10:54.30 | gw280 | resiak: who are you? |
| 10:54.51 | resiak | That's a question I find hard to answer in an IRC context :_) |
| 10:55.02 | morsing | gw280: Beer |
| 10:55.24 | resiak | I'm a filthy student, #lugradio person, part-time London person, la la la |
| 10:55.31 | Leeds | resiak: see - I wasn't kidding about him shooting you |
| 10:55.48 | gw280 | I'm a filthy student too |
| 10:55.50 | resiak | I can tell |
| 10:55.55 | resiak | Yes, hence why you have done SoC ;) |
| 10:55.56 | gw280 | but I've been threatened with having my student status taken away |
| 10:56.10 | gw280 | nah, I wasn't a student when I did SoC last year. |
| 10:56.18 | resiak | heh! |
| 10:56.24 | Leeds | gw280: what? |
| 10:56.41 | Leeds | student status taken away? |
| 10:57.04 | catalyst | kicked out? |
| 10:57.07 | gw280 | Leeds: I've been told if I don't get my act together I'll be kicked out |
| 10:57.07 | catalyst | O_o |
| 10:57.19 | Leeds | uh... |
| 10:57.25 | *** mode/#gllug [+o Leeds] by ChanServ |
| 10:57.34 | Leeds | would you like some traditional help? ;-) |
| 10:57.50 | gw280 | end of term was yesterday. |
| 10:57.55 | Leeds | seriously, you're in trouble? |
| 10:58.02 | Leeds | don't fuck it up, man... |
| 10:58.06 | *** mode/#gllug [-o Leeds] by ChanServ |
| 10:58.14 | gw280 | yes, I'm staying here all easter to consolidate work |
| 10:58.28 | gw280 | I just hope I don't get too much distraction |
| 10:58.42 | catalyst | gw280: like sitting on IRC? :P |
| 10:58.51 | gw280 | catalyst: no, like... other things |
| 10:58.59 | kecks | SHOTTING BUNNIES |
| 10:59.17 | Leeds | gw280: what's his name? |
| 11:01.09 | resiak | oh, are you a filthy tab |
| 11:01.21 | resiak | (based on the thursday-wednesday week...) |
| 11:01.50 | gw280 | resiak: oh dear gods, don't tell me you're at that shithole they think is a university? |
| 11:02.40 | resiak | tabland? hell no. |
| 11:03.04 | gw280 | no, not Cambridge |
| 11:03.05 | resiak | or are you deriding ox? |
| 11:03.08 | gw280 | Cambridge i slovely |
| 11:03.27 | gw280 | well, it would be if I could type. |
| 11:03.42 | gw280 | I'm supposed to be eating ice cream in a field later today |
| 11:03.43 | gw280 | what joy. |
| 11:07.58 | Leeds | pub time! |
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| 11:31.49 | morsing | huw-l! |
| 11:32.09 | morsing | ~seen sabinef72 |
| 11:32.40 | ibot | sabinef72 <i=sabinef7@barcelone.ipv6.popipo.fr> was last seen on IRC in channel #gllug, 4d 13h 40m 46s ago, saying: ':-)'. |
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| 12:07.42 | wethrin | morsing: pong? |
| 12:13.13 | morsing | wethrin! |
| 12:13.24 | wethrin | Hi |
| 12:13.24 | morsing | wethrin: Where's Sabine? |
| 12:13.34 | wethrin | I've eaten her for breakfast |
| 12:15.39 | dick_turpin | wethrin: was she tasty? |
| 12:15.46 | wethrin | ehh...... |
| 12:15.50 | wethrin | I prefer bacon |
| 12:18.02 | dick_turpin | ibot stick a fish in goibhniu's ear |
| 12:18.21 | goibhniu | dick_turpin: thanks for that good news this morning ... I'm just about to turn it on ... stand back |
| 12:19.44 | goibhniu | oh ... I really loved the last splash |
| 12:20.59 | dick_turpin | goibhniu: (with scruntched up eyes) are you firing up what I think you are? |
| 12:21.42 | goibhniu | dick_turpin: of course ... I would have been pissed off with you if you told me it was out and I couldn't install it yet :) |
| 12:22.10 | dick_turpin | goibhniu: You complete and utter scumbag |
| 12:22.41 | goibhniu | I still don't see the wall .. but I think it replaces the cube anyway so I probably wouldn't use it |
| 12:22.59 | goibhniu | the settings manager has been slightly improved again |
| 12:23.06 | goibhniu | nice :) |
| 12:23.20 | dick_turpin | goibhniu: I expect a full report, swine, now that I'm moving into at least four months behind |
| 12:24.27 | goibhniu | dick_turpin: I'm gonna take kde for a spin one of these days ... I hear it's going places |
| 12:25.38 | morsing | ping wethrin |
| 12:25.47 | wethrin | yar? |
| 12:25.55 | morsing | wethrin: I just found out I'm going to York on the 17th of June |
| 12:25.58 | goibhniu | dick_turpin: I'm so sorry ... this rules |
| 12:26.02 | morsing | Will you be around that weekend? |
| 12:26.14 | dick_turpin | goibhniu: S'funny you should say that I'm a big KDE fan and always used it, when I stuck opensuse 10.2 on I switched to Gnome but I'm not happy with it. Anyway I saw a post this morning saying Gnome was falling a bit too far behind |
| 12:26.30 | wethrin | Err.....not sure. I think so. |
| 12:26.33 | morsing | :( |
| 12:26.58 | goibhniu | dick_turpin: that was one of the themes of lugradio this week |
| 12:28.51 | dick_turpin | goibhniu: Yeah not had a chance to listen yet, maybe tonight |
| 12:28.52 | wethrin | morsing: I could be busy if you prefer :) |
| 12:28.52 | morsing | :( |
| 12:28.56 | wethrin | 17th is a Sunday... |
| 12:29.17 | wethrin | I suspect I could well be around... |
| 12:29.33 | goibhniu | dick_turpin: there is a lot of anger ... and ubuntuism as usual .. it's a good one |
| 12:31.01 | morsing | wethrin: Well, I'd be coming up Saturday or maybe Friday night |
| 12:31.12 | morsing | Then leaving you very early Sunday morning |
| 12:31.28 | dick_turpin | goibhniu: Hm, having hung out with them I can guess |
| 12:31.29 | wethrin | Ohh...... |
| 12:31.36 | wethrin | So you're just there overnight? |
| 12:32.49 | morsing | Ermm... I'll be there all Saturday... |
| 12:32.57 | wethrin | But leaving Sunday morning? |
| 12:32.59 | morsing | Or what did you have in mind? |
| 12:33.01 | morsing | Yes |
| 12:33.13 | morsing | Can I crash on your head? |
| 12:33.18 | wethrin | Ahh....I had in mind meeting on Sunday :) |
| 12:33.29 | morsing | Can't do that :) |
| 12:33.32 | wethrin | Bah :-P |
| 12:33.42 | wethrin | I might be able to do Friday evening. Or Saturday daytime |
| 12:33.57 | morsing | Mmm... |
| 12:34.24 | wethrin | which would be better? |
| 12:34.25 | morsing | How many hours to drive from Staines to you? |
| 12:34.25 | wethrin | To me in Durham? |
| 12:34.33 | morsing | Yes |
| 12:34.33 | wethrin | Depends :) |
| 12:34.38 | wethrin | I've done Durham to home in 4.5 hours, but that was leaving Durham at 8.30pm |
| 12:34.55 | morsing | Yeah, I have to go through Friday rush hour |
| 12:35.04 | morsing | Won't be there till 11pm |
| 12:35.10 | wethrin | Schedule 6-8 hours to get to Durham |
| 12:35.15 | wethrin | York's closer |
| 12:35.18 | morsing | So, 1am then |
| 12:35.28 | morsing | I'm not going to york till the Sunday |
| 12:35.45 | wethrin | hang on....I'm confused now |
| 12:35.57 | wethrin | What exactly are your travel plans for the weekend |
| 12:36.08 | morsing | I AM GOING TO YORK ON SUNDAY THE !&TH> WHY IS THAT CONFUSING! |
| 12:36.31 | wethrin | Because I thought you were talking about meeting up in York |
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| 12:38.37 | wethrin | So you want to come up to Durham on the Friday night / Saturday morning, and head down to York on the Sunday morning? |
| 12:43.53 | morsing | Yes |
| 12:43.56 | morsing | Londo_! |
| 12:44.52 | wethrin | right |
| 12:45.31 | wethrin | ooh, lunchtime |
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| 13:36.34 | bilarh_ | you peeps seen this yet? http://apple.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=44091&cid=4592270 |
| 13:49.07 | bilarh_ | nice, i can see the difference between a 0 and an 8 now |
| 13:49.10 | bilarh_ | and between a C and an O |
| 13:49.24 | bilarh_ | glasses rock :D |
| 13:52.50 | hali | more than breasts? |
| 13:54.51 | bilarh_ | i can always see a great set of tits, just by looking down :P |
| 13:59.04 | hali | moobs |
| 14:01.55 | morsing | wethrin! |
| 14:05.03 | morsing | wethrin: So what do you say? |
| 14:08.17 | bilarh_ | i can now see the difference between individual pixels :P |
| 14:08.40 | antiphase | Any dead ones? |
| 14:08.55 | morsing | ping wethrin |
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| 14:10.28 | morsing | catalyst``! |
| 14:10.35 | morsing | catalyst`` smack wethrin |
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| 14:23.24 | morsing | chr1s! |
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| 14:30.12 | morsing | sanelson! |
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| 14:33.01 | rhowe | whee |
| 14:35.07 | wethrin | Yay! |
| 14:35.09 | wethrin | What sort of camera? |
| 14:36.07 | rhowe | Canon 400D |
| 14:36.19 | rhowe | Almost a real one |
| 14:36.23 | rhowe | (it's plastic) |
| 14:36.28 | wethrin | ooh |
| 14:37.45 | morsing | wethrin: So is that ok? |
| 14:38.29 | wethrin | 16th June? |
| 14:38.32 | morsing | Yes |
| 14:39.04 | wethrin | I'm going to go with yes |
| 14:39.11 | morsing | Nice |
| 14:39.23 | morsing | So I'll crash on your head for two nights? |
| 14:40.14 | wethrin | that might be slightly harder, as I'll have housemates at that time, so not really space :-/ |
| 14:40.25 | morsing | Hmm... On your head? |
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| 14:40.50 | morsing | Jasperw! |
| 14:40.54 | wethrin | Head! |
| 14:51.07 | bilarh_ | man, i've just realised that my new glasses look incredibly guurly :( |
| 14:51.15 | bilarh_ | what the hell was i thinking picking them out? |
| 14:53.00 | wethrin | you weren't? |
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| 14:53.31 | antiphase | bilarh_: Wee need pics to be able to judge |
| 14:53.35 | antiphase | s/e// |
| 14:57.00 | bilarh_ | i'm sorry, but what is john holmes doing planning terrorist attacks: http://news.sky.com/skynews/article/0,,30000-1255911,00.html |
| 14:58.47 | antiphase | It looks like a hybrid of John Holmes and Ron Jeremy tbh |
| 15:00.22 | bilarh_ | sorry, ron jeremy |
| 15:00.35 | bilarh_ | damnit, i can't believe i get the names of my idols mixed up all the time :( |
| 15:04.15 | antiphase | Heh :) |
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| 15:06.32 | morsing | Puss1nB00ts! |
| 15:11.02 | bilarh_ | on the subject of glasses, no chance :) |
| 15:14.20 | bilarh_ | oh man, screw this... it's so much more comfortable to see what i'm doing :) |
| 15:14.34 | bilarh_ | i may look stupid, but at least i can see myself looking stupid in the mirror :P |
| 15:15.03 | bilarh_ | i still can't believe that i picked these frames though, what a bummer hehe |
| 15:27.35 | wethrin | Anyone want a job with Oxford University Computing Services, doing networky things? |
| 15:27.59 | morsing | No |
| 15:28.08 | wethrin | Oxford > Staines |
| 15:28.43 | morsing | At £450/day? |
| 15:28.50 | bilarh_ | yes :) |
| 15:29.01 | bilarh_ | possibly anyway |
| 15:29.16 | bilarh_ | if you can push the rate up to about 475 i'm definitely interested, if there's free coffee |
| 15:29.23 | wethrin | If you're on £450/day, the next round of beer's on you! |
| 15:29.39 | cpufreak | 450quid/day is fuck all |
| 15:29.43 | cpufreak | for contracting |
| 15:29.46 | bilarh_ | phew, i thought i'd have to get the next round :) |
| 15:30.03 | bilarh_ | cpufreak: actually, it's still quite a bit :) |
| 15:30.18 | cpufreak | for permanent work its good money |
| 15:30.24 | wethrin | Well.....£60/hr ain't bad |
| 15:30.25 | bilarh_ | cpufreak: our contractors used to get about 400-500 a day in the bank |
| 15:30.53 | bilarh_ | cpufreak: mind, it was a particularly cheap bank |
| 15:30.57 | cpufreak | for contracting its fuck all |
| 15:31.05 | bilarh_ | well, it's not fantastic, but it's hardly fuck all :) |
| 15:31.08 | bilarh_ | that's my last bid :P |
| 15:31.59 | cpufreak | considering as a contractor, you don't get bonuses, holiday pay, health benefits, job security etc etc |
| 15:32.32 | bilarh_ | hmm, yeah, but job security is overstated for permies anyway |
| 15:37.27 | morsing | Beer |
| 15:37.50 | cpufreak | bilarh_: whilst the market is strong sure.. |
| 15:38.01 | cpufreak | as soon as it dips, it suddenly becomes useful again |
| 15:38.09 | morsing | cpufreak: Bear in mind I don't work in London and I don't do WebSphere |
| 15:38.34 | bilarh_ | cpufreak: no but what i mean is that when the going goes tough, you're quite likely to lose your job as a permie as well |
| 15:38.54 | bilarh_ | in fact, i've known it to happen that the permies got fired and the contractors got to stay :) |
| 15:40.18 | cpufreak | sure there are exceptions to the rule, but 9 times out of 10 the contractors are got rid of first. Permanent employees usually get some form of redundancy package too, which softens any blow |
| 15:40.29 | bilarh_ | hmm i suppose |
| 15:40.35 | morsing | ~seen Leeds |
| 15:41.01 | ibot | leeds <n=richardc@awork064052.netvigator.com> was last seen on IRC in channel #gllug, 4h 33m 3s ago, saying: 'pub time!'. |
| 15:41.02 | cpufreak | morsing: fair enough.. just seems low for contracting |
| 15:41.02 | morsing | No it doesn't |
| 15:41.02 | morsing | I'm even lucky to get that |
| 15:41.02 | bilarh_ | i never quite understood why companies pay redundancy packages to employees they're getting rid of anyway |
| 15:41.03 | hali | i do websphere, does that mean i can get 500+ a day? :) |
| 15:41.09 | bilarh_ | morsing: for what it's worth, i think it's a great rate, especially for oxford |
| 15:41.33 | morsing | hali: My three WebSphere friends are on £500-£650/day |
| 15:41.36 | bilarh_ | hmm, i've often wondered if i could be a contractor |
| 15:41.37 | morsing | bilarh_: Thanks |
| 15:41.55 | cpufreak | I looked at some contract jobs prior to accepting the new role I'm taking, and they were all ~700quid+/day, for 3-6 month contracts |
| 15:42.36 | hali | morsing: not bad at all |
| 15:42.39 | hali | got me thinking :) |
| 15:42.45 | hali | people pay way to much for stuff like that |
| 15:42.47 | bilarh_ | if i get fired from here by the end of my three month probation, i may give contracting a go |
| 15:42.49 | morsing | I know |
| 15:42.50 | hali | websphere, weblogic etc |
| 15:43.09 | cpufreak | bilarh_: I can have words if you want :P |
| 15:43.35 | hali | i got about 400 per hour when i worked for RBS ... doing nothing but gnuplot :) |
| 15:43.39 | bilarh_ | cpufreak: hehe :) |
| 15:43.54 | hali | fixed contract, got 1200 and it took about 3h |
| 15:44.04 | morsing | Nice :) |
| 15:44.26 | bilarh_ | thing is though, 500 quid minus 40% is not a lot, really |
| 15:44.32 | bilarh_ | hardly enough for a city boy to live on :( |
| 15:44.35 | morsing | Someone from Swansea phoned me some year ago and asked if I could come over a weekend and setup some systems |
| 15:44.53 | morsing | When I said £2400 they said no... |
| 15:45.03 | hali | Swansea? hazard pay on top i take it? ;) |
| 15:45.03 | morsing | Muppets |
| 15:47.22 | bilarh_ | cpufreak: do we usually get bonuses here? |
| 15:47.34 | bilarh_ | i've never had a bonus |
| 15:47.39 | bilarh_ | actually, i lie |
| 15:47.42 | bilarh_ | i had one when i was 20 |
| 15:47.46 | bilarh_ | it was all of 200 pounds :P |
| 15:48.18 | hali | i got one in activemedia, 500 quid... i told them to stuff it and left :) |
| 15:48.43 | cpufreak | bilarh_: yeh, gets paid in july |
| 15:48.48 | bilarh_ | the thing is, i'm not sure if i'd prefer a good kick to the nuts, or 200 quid :) |
| 15:49.15 | bilarh_ | cpufreak: ah coolest |
| 15:49.17 | cpufreak | assuming you're above 40k, it'll be upto 20% (or up to 25% if company exceeds expectations) |
| 15:49.24 | cpufreak | otherwise its 10% |
| 15:49.25 | hali | i took the 500 as a kick in the nuts, i told my boss i was considering moving on and he said that he wanted me to stay and promised me a great bonus for christmas.. |
| 15:49.32 | bilarh_ | cpufreak: cool :P |
| 15:50.12 | bilarh_ | cpufreak: is it usually good or is it crap? |
| 15:50.20 | cpufreak | I dunno |
| 15:50.26 | cpufreak | I only started in july last year |
| 15:50.30 | bilarh_ | ah :) |
| 15:50.32 | cpufreak | last year it was a max of 10% |
| 15:50.43 | cpufreak | and they paid out 90% of that. |
| 15:50.50 | bilarh_ | excellent |
| 15:51.18 | bilarh_ | enough for some new rubber and a pissup :) |
| 15:51.36 | hali | "new rubber" some new fetish thing? |
| 15:51.45 | hali | one of those gimp outfits |
| 15:51.49 | hali | with a zipper |
| 15:52.08 | bilarh_ | hmm... you seem to know a lot about those outfits... are you sure it's not one of your fetishes? :P |
| 15:52.17 | hali | i've explored them all |
| 15:53.23 | bilarh_ | i'm bored |
| 15:53.29 | bilarh_ | i need a new cool project |
| 15:53.43 | bilarh_ | a bored sysadmin is a crap sysadmin and at the moment i feel incredibly crap |
| 15:54.00 | hali | im bored as well, but mostly because i have to fuck around with sybase all the time now |
| 15:54.05 | bilarh_ | my best achievement so far in two months is breaking a bunch of filesystems :) |
| 15:54.20 | bilarh_ | sybase looks good on the cv... |
| 15:54.22 | hali | since there is an apparent lack of skilled sybase dba's in investment banks.. i hate that |
| 15:54.31 | bilarh_ | browsing scoobynet and placing bets on the ftse index doesn't :) |
| 15:54.49 | hali | me and sp_sysmon are getting real close |
| 15:55.23 | bilarh_ | cpufreak: you haven't got any cool projects you could pimp to me, have you? |
| 15:55.33 | cpufreak | nope |
| 15:55.38 | bilarh_ | :'( |
| 15:55.52 | bilarh_ | cpufreak: so are you generally quite busy here, or is it always this slow? |
| 15:56.04 | cpufreak | I'm generally busy |
| 15:56.10 | cpufreak | but at the minute I'm not |
| 15:56.13 | cpufreak | because I've broken my arm |
| 15:56.16 | cpufreak | and been ill |
| 15:56.18 | bilarh_ | hehe :) |
| 15:56.19 | cpufreak | and was away for a week skiing |
| 15:56.42 | cpufreak | so I cleared my todo list before skiing, and due to the change freeze when I returned I didn't take up any new projects |
| 15:56.51 | bilarh_ | ah ok |
| 15:56.52 | cpufreak | once the change freeze has cleared there may be some more work |
| 15:57.03 | cpufreak | but you'll find you need to ask for it, rather than just sit back |
| 15:57.08 | bilarh_ | maybe i should have a word with some of them bosses type people |
| 15:57.24 | cpufreak | wait until the change freeze lifts |
| 15:57.32 | cpufreak | maybe at the team fisting^wmeeting on monday |
| 15:57.39 | bilarh_ | thing is, i do, and it's always like "nah, not really got anything" :) |
| 15:57.46 | bilarh_ | hehe |
| 15:57.55 | cpufreak | who are you asking? |
| 15:58.00 | bilarh_ | will |
| 15:58.05 | bilarh_ | is he my boss? |
| 15:58.59 | cpufreak | ask at the team meeting, when alex is there too |
| 15:59.17 | cpufreak | or possibly ask alex when he does your 3 month review |
| 15:59.25 | bilarh_ | yeah that should come up soon anyway |
| 15:59.46 | bilarh_ | to be honest, i thought when i joined that i was joining the unix people, but i seem to have been shunted off to the linux crowd :) |
| 16:08.56 | cpufreak | I thought you said you didn't have that much experience with solaris? |
| 16:12.13 | bilarh_ | i'll rephrase |
| 16:12.28 | bilarh_ | i thought i was going to the backend team, but i ended up in the front end one :) |
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| 16:17.20 | morsing | catalyst! |
| 16:20.46 | hali | bilarh_: front end as in httpd.conf monkey? :) |
| 16:20.50 | hali | bilarh_ is a solaris hater |
| 16:20.54 | bilarh_ | nah, not really |
| 16:21.04 | bilarh_ | i'm not a solaris hater, i just think that linux is quite good also :) |
| 16:21.12 | hali | quite good, i agree |
| 16:21.41 | hali | don't hate solaris just because it's got sh as default shell :) |
| 16:23.57 | bilarh_ | sh is shite |
| 16:24.26 | bilarh_ | in fact, it's a little known fact that the name 'sh' comes from "shite", not "Unix Shell" as commonly assumed |
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| 17:30.59 | wethrin | z00dax: ping? |
| 18:33.40 | morsing | ibot wake Leeds |
| 18:33.42 | ibot | ACTION throws a barrel-full of ice water on Leeds and shouts "GOOD MORNING!!!!" |
| 18:40.49 | morsing | ping wethrin |
| 18:40.52 | wethrin | hi |
| 18:40.59 | morsing | Where's Leeds? |
| 18:41.06 | wethrin | Hong Kong |
| 18:41.10 | morsing | :) |
| 18:41.21 | morsing | Gyme? Cinema? Restaurant? |
| 18:41.29 | wethrin | IRC? |
| 18:42.42 | morsing | No... |
| 18:42.46 | wethrin | Oh |
| 18:43.12 | wethrin | where's z00dax? |
| 18:43.20 | morsing | Oxford |
| 18:43.47 | wethrin | What's he doing there? |
| 18:45.16 | wethrin | morsing: Will you be at the Gllug meeting? |
| 18:45.20 | *** mode/#gllug [+o wethrin] by ChanServ |
| 18:46.02 | morsing | wethrin: Which one? |
| 18:46.10 | *** topic/#gllug by wethrin -> Next GLLUG meeting Saturday 24th March, Westminster University - http://www.gllug.org.uk | http://planet.gllug.org.uk |
| 18:46.14 | wethrin | The one in the topic |
| 18:46.19 | morsing | wethrin: Does Apache control line wrapping in text files? |
| 18:46.25 | wethrin | No |
| 18:46.28 | *** mode/#gllug [-o wethrin] by wethrin |
| 18:46.30 | morsing | Possibly |
| 18:46.47 | morsing | wethrin: How come a text file on BSD doesn't wrap but it does on Linux? |
| 18:47.05 | morsing | wethrin: Are you going? I could do actually |
| 18:47.10 | morsing | I'm pretty sure |
| 18:47.11 | wethrin | I ought to be there |
| 18:47.27 | wethrin | How do you mean? Is your web browser on Linux, or on BSD? |
| 18:47.28 | morsing | You didn't answer my line wrap question |
| 18:47.38 | morsing | I've got one on Linux and one on BSD |
| 18:47.45 | wethrin | Same Apache instance? |
| 18:48.00 | morsing | That's odd... |
| 18:48.06 | wethrin | look are your line endings |
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| 18:48.59 | morsing | wethrin: Ahh... Yes, the file on Linux had been pasted from a mutt window |
| 18:49.03 | morsing | adminjs! |
| 18:49.46 | wethrin | Aha :) |
| 19:22.09 | morsing | ping Leeds |
| 19:50.53 | morsing | Would Win98 be confused by having two NICs? |
| 19:57.34 | clive-h | You could set different routing metrics for them |
| 19:58.19 | morsing | Uhm... They're not even there |
| 19:59.21 | clive-h | I have no idea what you mean |
| 20:03.17 | morsing | The NICs don't even show up |
| 20:04.43 | clive-h | Installed the drivers? |
| 20:16.11 | morsing | It works with one card I believe - Sorry I've been asked this second hand |
| 20:17.02 | clive-h | It is possible though I've not used win98 in ages |
| 20:51.48 | morsing | Leeds? |
| 21:16.39 | morsing | *yawn* |
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| 21:29.10 | morsing | Puss1nB00ts! |
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| 21:35.14 | morsing | sabinef72! |
| 21:36.17 | sabinef72 | Hi morsing |
| 21:39.40 | morsing | How are you? |
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| 21:57.13 | morsing | Jasperw! |
| 22:03.06 | hali | morsing!!1one |
| 22:08.55 | sanelson | erm |
| 22:14.47 | morsing | Cope! |
| 22:15.33 | hali | Hello |
| 22:15.51 | hali | indian food kicks so much butt |
| 22:16.13 | hali | and a nice meal at gopals |
| 22:21.53 | wethrin | CURRY! |
| 22:23.28 | hali | mmm... |
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| 23:57.59 | rhowe | ibot change 677.77 usd to gbp |