| 00:11.03 | gw280 | hrmm |
| 00:11.04 | gw280 | GTK is HORRIBLE |
| 00:11.06 | gw280 | :'( |
| 00:21.36 | Nermal | naa |
| 00:21.38 | Nermal | QT is worse |
| 00:28.16 | trousers_ | Whoa, my Firefox has gone all trippy on me... |
| 00:28.32 | trousers_ | The tabs are vibrating |
| 00:29.16 | trousers_ | gw280: I guess you'll be pleased to hear I'm now using KDE :) |
| 00:33.05 | gw280 | trousers_: ok |
| 00:33.08 | gw280 | Nermal: in what way? |
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| 02:50.25 | gw280 | hrmm |
| 02:50.31 | gw280 | http://vm.gwright.org.uk/maemonx2.png |
| 02:50.33 | z00dax | goto sleep |
| 02:50.48 | z00dax | or the big bd wolf gonna get ya |
| 02:50.55 | z00dax | s/bd w/bad w/ |
| 02:50.55 | gw280 | no |
| 02:51.23 | z00dax | awrite, well - dont tell me later that I didnt warn ya |
| 02:51.41 | gw280 | of? |
| 02:52.41 | z00dax | the big bad wolf |
| 02:53.09 | z00dax | btw is that the n770 ? |
| 03:01.35 | z00dax | hey morsing |
| 03:01.44 | morsing | z00dax! |
| 03:02.14 | morsing | Mmm... 26 degrees |
| 03:02.17 | Leeds | mozrat! |
| 03:02.22 | morsing | Leeds! |
| 03:02.36 | morsing | Just came back from Hollywood |
| 03:02.45 | morsing | Bought crap souvenirs |
| 03:02.47 | Leeds | nice |
| 03:02.48 | morsing | :) |
| 03:02.51 | morsing | And postcards |
| 03:03.24 | gw280 | z00dax: it's xephyr |
| 03:03.30 | Leeds | ewwww |
| 03:03.30 | gw280 | z00dax: running the Hildon UI |
| 03:03.37 | z00dax | pass |
| 03:03.41 | Leeds | damn, but that's a long tongue you've got there |
| 03:03.43 | gw280 | morsing: piss off |
| 03:03.45 | gw280 | morsing: I'm busy |
| 03:04.12 | Leeds | morsing: only 24C here, but foggy and humid :-( |
| 03:04.58 | z00dax | 10 Deg C here, quite nice and clear |
| 03:46.35 | morsing | Nice |
| 04:14.52 | gw280 | hrmm, you can't seem to link to both Qt and GTK |
| 04:15.38 | z00dax | relief |
| 04:15.55 | z00dax | imawhy would you want to link to both anyway ? |
| 04:16.04 | z00dax | s/imawhy/why/ |
| 04:16.06 | gw280 | z00dax: I want to link to a client library that links to QtCore |
| 04:16.39 | z00dax | ok, and ? |
| 04:17.06 | gw280 | oh, you can |
| 04:17.07 | gw280 | hrmm |
| 04:17.08 | gw280 | how odd |
| 04:17.45 | gw280 | now I can use QString :D |
| 04:18.00 | gw280 | (seriously, best. class. ever.) |
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| 09:09.25 | niv_one_three | well I managed to have any sex last night , yet didnt get that QoS to work ...:-\ |
| 09:09.44 | niv_one_three | that is "not to have" |
| 09:10.16 | niv_one_three | btw, there is a filter to flag sip trafic leading to rtp |
| 09:10.26 | niv_one_three | thus allowing to give voip priority |
| 09:10.51 | Leeds | dude... public, logged channel... |
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| 09:12.36 | rsd | good morning |
| 09:13.27 | niv_one_three | oh hi leeds |
| 09:13.40 | niv_one_three | i guess one can't get all done at the same night |
| 09:13.54 | niv_one_three | I am ready to stand behind the no sex tatment |
| 09:13.58 | niv_one_three | statment |
| 09:14.36 | niv_one_three | only wish this QoS was sorted by now... damn gentoo gurus changing the pckaging system errr |
| 09:15.10 | niv_one_three | nm |
| 09:15.44 | Leeds | hi rsd |
| 09:15.58 | niv_one_three | oh ya, I couldnt fnd the Berl youth hostel near FOSDM in google maps |
| 09:16.06 | niv_one_three | address doesnt work |
| 09:16.14 | niv_one_three | I am seeking for gps numbers |
| 09:16.36 | Leeds | never been there |
| 09:16.38 | rsd | just wanted to drop in to the IRC chan; i'm studying here in london for a couple months and was interested in coming to the next GL LUG meeting |
| 09:17.34 | rsd | so, greetings everyone :] |
| 09:32.00 | rhowe | Leeds: http://siksai.co.uk/~rhowe/newbird.jpg |
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| 10:04.09 | goibhniu | hi rsd- ... are you on the mailing lists? |
| 10:05.52 | rsd- | no, not yet, but i'm about to once i finish this wireshark tutorial |
| 10:06.09 | rsd- | i'm about to sign up, that isi |
| 10:07.30 | goibhniu | I'm not sure if the details of every meeting are on the website ... quite possibly .. but there may be other things on the lists too |
| 10:07.44 | rsd- | hehe |
| 10:09.36 | goibhniu | rsd-: where are you from originally? |
| 10:10.01 | rsd- | new york city, but i'm studying at university of london until may |
| 10:10.31 | rsd- | i'm staying in the clerkenwell area |
| 10:10.54 | goibhniu | ahh excellent ... good spot |
| 10:11.34 | rsd- | i like it here.. although we have to make the walk to bedford square every day for class |
| 10:11.44 | rsd- | but it's a nice walk so it's okay |
| 10:12.39 | rsd- | goibhniu: what area do you live in? |
| 10:14.09 | goibhniu | I'm dalston ... just up the road from brick lane |
| 10:14.45 | rsd- | oh cool, i was around there the other day |
| 10:16.09 | goibhniu | there's a great junk market on saturdays ... and a pretty massive vegetable/etc market across from the train station |
| 10:16.18 | goibhniu | I really like it here |
| 10:16.26 | goibhniu | the local cinema is cool |
| 10:16.49 | goibhniu | there are supposed to be some great jazz clubs too, but I've yet to make it out to one (been here 2 years) |
| 10:16.50 | rsd- | hmm, i haven't been to any movies since i've been here |
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| 10:17.01 | rsd- | oh? where from originally? |
| 10:17.15 | goibhniu | ireland |
| 10:17.32 | rsd- | ah, i'm definitely planning a trip there in a couple weeks |
| 10:17.54 | goibhniu | few enough people in london seem to be from england never mind london :D |
| 10:17.57 | goibhniu | oh cool! |
| 10:18.09 | goibhniu | what have you got planned? |
| 10:18.23 | goibhniu | my advice is always "stay as far away from dublin as you possibly can" |
| 10:18.30 | goibhniu | a lot of people like dublin tho |
| 10:18.33 | goibhniu | I'm a country boy |
| 10:19.02 | goibhniu | I'd go straight for the south or west coast, and bring a rain coat |
| 10:19.17 | rsd- | hehe |
| 10:19.37 | rsd- | a lot of my friends are going to dublin for st. patrick's day, but i'd rather not |
| 10:20.10 | goibhniu | actually the last paddy's day I spent in dublin was cool |
| 10:20.45 | rsd- | oh really? |
| 10:20.47 | goibhniu | I was blown away ... they were trying to add a bit of culture to it ... so lots of street performers doing interesting fun crazy stuff |
| 10:20.58 | rsd- | i figured it would be flush with dummy tourists like myself |
| 10:21.08 | goibhniu | was a lot better than the usual shite they've been up to |
| 10:21.20 | goibhniu | I don't know if that was an exception tho |
| 10:21.31 | goibhniu | might have been a one off ... I doubt it though ... it was really great |
| 10:22.26 | goibhniu | one thing I like about dublin is the buskers on grafton street ... you also get that in galway and cork but they can be good in dublin too |
| 10:23.53 | goibhniu | I do know people who think paddy's day is about drinking a green milkshake in McD's ... so there's no lack of that lark either |
| 10:24.10 | rsd- | haha |
| 10:28.23 | rsd- | so are you a linux hobbyist? or do you do professional work with it? |
| 10:30.31 | goibhniu | I'm a python web developer by trade and a devout linux bigot |
| 10:31.12 | rsd- | ohh python! learning it is my next project |
| 10:31.40 | goibhniu | an awful lot of python devs are mac heads ... which annoys me no end :D |
| 10:31.47 | rsd- | haha |
| 10:32.19 | rsd- | i'm in business school so people there think it's odd i love open source |
| 10:32.20 | rsd- | :P |
| 10:32.30 | goibhniu | python is really handy alright |
| 10:32.53 | rsd- | ive found a lot of the gtk apps and console scripts ive been using are python |
| 10:33.34 | goibhniu | ahh excellent! ... I would have hoped that business students would be interested in open source business models |
| 10:33.46 | goibhniu | yeah, you can script almost anything with it |
| 10:34.06 | goibhniu | blender3d, openoffice, the gimp, inkscape etc |
| 10:34.55 | goibhniu | or is it more the staff/lecturers who don't get open source? |
| 10:35.39 | rsd- | i think it's more the students |
| 10:35.52 | rsd- | the staffers understand, but don't cover it |
| 10:36.12 | rsd- | everything is about powerpoint presentations and how to use access blah blah blah |
| 10:40.56 | rsd- | what distro are you using? |
| 10:43.46 | goibhniu | I doubt too many would know their way around wireshark alright :D |
| 10:44.14 | goibhniu | I use ubuntu and gentoo, we've got red hat at work but I don't know so much about it |
| 10:44.36 | rsd- | ah |
| 10:44.37 | goibhniu | started off with mandrake ... that was a great distro! |
| 10:44.38 | rsd- | archlinux over here |
| 10:44.47 | rsd- | yes mandrake is great |
| 10:45.06 | goibhniu | oh ... I love arch ... I tried 3 times to get a system I could use it with |
| 10:45.16 | goibhniu | it's so fast it's incredible |
| 10:45.23 | rsd- | but the only thing i remember about red hat was trying to get version 5.2 to work on a 486/33mhz compaq computer when i was 13 years old :x |
| 10:45.36 | rsd- | arch is incredibly fast |
| 10:45.40 | rsd- | and i like the bsd style init scripts |
| 10:45.50 | rsd- | i used to be a big debian head |
| 10:45.56 | goibhniu | it's really easy and quick to set up too |
| 10:46.29 | rsd- | by the way, have you tried using dual core or 64bit CPUs with linux? |
| 10:46.29 | trousers_ | Gentoo is my preference :) |
| 10:46.35 | rsd- | i'm wondering if it's worth the money |
| 10:46.55 | rsd- | trousers_: i actually just installed a package for archlinux to mimick esearch |
| 10:47.06 | goibhniu | rsd-: yep, t52 dual core x2 |
| 10:47.36 | goibhniu | it's definitely a step up from my pentium 4m before |
| 10:47.59 | goibhniu | the dual core is nice ... it means one cpu can be maxed out ... so things never really slow down |
| 10:48.43 | goibhniu | I don't know what the difference is with 64bit... most people seem to say there's very little |
| 10:49.16 | goibhniu | but it's bound to be more future proof |
| 10:49.22 | trousers_ | goibhniu: I assume it's fairly useful for ueber servers requiring more than 5GB of RAM or so... |
| 10:50.06 | trousers_ | And also a nice easy solution for the 2038 problem... |
| 10:50.07 | goibhniu | trousers_: that's true |
| 10:50.39 | rsd- | i'm trying to decide whether to get a core 2 duo, AM2, athlon 64, or just a regular core duo |
| 10:51.01 | goibhniu | rsd-: for a desktop or laptop? |
| 10:51.09 | rsd- | desktop |
| 10:51.51 | goibhniu | and are you likely to be doing video processing or anything similarly taxing? |
| 10:52.03 | rsd- | probably some gaming |
| 10:52.09 | rsd- | but mostly scripting and development |
| 10:52.14 | rsd- | "hacking" :) |
| 10:52.26 | goibhniu | you may not benefit from any dual core then really |
| 10:52.47 | rsd- | alright |
| 10:53.00 | goibhniu | all cpus are pretty freakin hot these days IMO |
| 10:53.03 | rsd- | i just want a basic microatx box with 1-2 gigs of ram and a huge hard drive |
| 10:53.10 | goibhniu | I'd get the cheapest |
| 10:53.31 | goibhniu | is money much of a factor? |
| 10:53.32 | trousers_ | Shuttle! Shuttle! |
| 10:53.43 | goibhniu | or dimensions? |
| 10:53.52 | rsd- | both, but more so about money |
| 10:54.00 | rsd- | i'm a poor student :( |
| 10:54.13 | goibhniu | I got an epia ... and it was a bit of a waste of cash |
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| 10:54.32 | goibhniu | I'd go for a laptop from ebay with a broken screen |
| 10:54.49 | goibhniu | I got a 1.4Ghz centrino for £50 |
| 10:54.56 | rsd- | wow! |
| 10:55.00 | goibhniu | you can wire a normal desktop hd into it |
| 10:55.08 | rsd- | really? it fits? |
| 10:55.11 | goibhniu | energy efficient, compact and cheap |
| 10:55.22 | goibhniu | sorry ... It sits on top :D |
| 10:55.31 | rsd- | ah hehe |
| 10:55.41 | rsd- | tha'ts a great idea |
| 10:55.56 | goibhniu | I was gonna use is for a myth-tv box |
| 10:56.13 | goibhniu | but I may use a shittier box for that |
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| 11:05.10 | trousers_ | goibhniu: You *could* always get a screen if you like :) |
| 11:05.25 | goibhniu | for the laptop? |
| 11:05.32 | trousers_ | Yeah |
| 11:05.38 | trousers_ | Nice idea, though |
| 11:05.43 | trousers_ | Just cut off the screen :P |
| 11:05.57 | goibhniu | I tried ... it drove me to tears |
| 11:06.01 | trousers_ | Hehe |
| 11:06.26 | goibhniu | eventually I paid £120 for one from the states (including tax) ... and it was the wrong one :( |
| 11:07.05 | goibhniu | I might have another shot at it though ... if I can find the right cable |
| 11:07.21 | goibhniu | I'm mixing up two laptops here ... but it's not important |
| 11:09.38 | goibhniu | the silly thing is that when I was buying the epia, some people on totenham court road suggested I just get a laptop motherboard ... I'm not a good listener :( |
| 11:10.08 | rsd- | haha |
| 11:10.25 | goibhniu | bbiab |
| 11:34.02 | rsd- | trousers_: do you use a shuttle board ? |
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| 11:55.41 | goibhniu | rsd-: ahh .. but you said you wanted to do some gaming too ... a laptop probably won't cut it then :( |
| 11:55.58 | goibhniu | rsd-: do you know some good on-line shops in the uk already? |
| 11:56.19 | goibhniu | scan.co.uk have some fairly small form factor gaming box iirc |
| 11:57.04 | goibhniu | surely getting something from the states would be much cheaper though |
| 11:58.00 | goibhniu | I wish system76 shipped to the uk |
| 12:02.42 | rsd- | yeah i think i'll wait to buy until i get back to the states |
| 12:02.53 | rsd- | goibhniu: you haven't set up ssh tunneling for wireless have you? |
| 12:06.02 | goibhniu | rsd-: what's the difference for wireless? |
| 12:08.05 | rsd- | none, actually |
| 12:08.10 | rsd- | not quote sure why i specified |
| 12:08.11 | rsd- | heh |
| 12:08.17 | rsd- | *quite |
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| 12:12.16 | goibhniu | ahh .. I'm no network guru myself ... but I can set up a tunnel |
| 12:12.24 | goibhniu | Dick_Turpin! |
| 12:12.51 | Dick_Turpin | goibhniu, Finally I'm here bloody ubuntu |
| 12:14.05 | goibhniu | oh no! ... someone on the mailing list was freakin out trying to get wireless going with ubuntu too |
| 12:14.25 | goibhniu | I think they gave up and have gone for vista instead |
| 12:14.56 | Dick_Turpin | goibhniu, I've just spent 10 mins swearing at the Lappy "Its my password tosser" |
| 12:17.41 | goibhniu | :D |
| 12:18.48 | goibhniu | Leeds: happy new year! |
| 12:18.49 | Dick_Turpin | goibhniu, Get ready with your baseball bat |
| 12:19.32 | Leeds | thank you |
| 12:19.54 | Dick_Turpin | goibhniu, Guess which version the "Blithering idiot" had installed? |
| 12:20.39 | goibhniu | Dick_Turpin: ahh dapper! |
| 12:20.58 | goibhniu | I dunno if there are backports for xorg 7.1 for dapper ... I thought I heard there were |
| 12:21.02 | Dick_Turpin | Leeds, What is it? kung hoi fat choi (I can say it but cant spell it) |
| 12:21.30 | Dick_Turpin | goibhniu, 6.06 now have 6.10 |
| 12:21.46 | goibhniu | ahh that'll work better |
| 12:22.11 | Leeds | Dick_Turpin: yes, that's it |
| 12:22.36 | Dick_Turpin | goibhniu, Here's a spooky one for ya. Beryl works, sort of, yet I haven't edited xorg |
| 12:22.49 | Dick_Turpin | Leeds, R U impressed? |
| 12:22.51 | goibhniu | Dick_Turpin: hey ... I also have the new beryl ... I could have had it all along! |
| 12:23.51 | Dick_Turpin | goibhniu, No water, wheres this 'wall' thingy? Love the new 'settings' control panel |
| 12:24.12 | Dick_Turpin | have got fire |
| 12:24.18 | Leeds | uh... little bit |
| 12:24.21 | Dick_Turpin | and cube |
| 12:24.55 | goibhniu | I like the way with the cube the windows look like thick sheets of glass now |
| 12:25.14 | goibhniu | the ring is cool too, but hibernation still doesn't work properly :( |
| 12:26.10 | Dick_Turpin | Leeds, A little bit! huh I'll back to talking very loudly and very slowly then why bother being multilingual if your not gonna be impressed |
| 12:26.31 | Dick_Turpin | goibhniu, Ring? where? |
| 12:26.43 | goibhniu | windows+tab |
| 12:27.05 | goibhniu | (or super if you prefer) |
| 12:27.15 | Dick_Turpin | oooooooooooooooohhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh |
| 12:27.21 | goibhniu | I don't know what that annotation stuff is about .. and I couldn't find the wall either |
| 12:28.17 | Dick_Turpin | Ha Vista eat your heart out |
| 12:29.02 | goibhniu | Dick_Turpin: I meant to ask you about that ... you said vista had lots of the same effects? does it really? |
| 12:29.14 | goibhniu | I thought vista only had a couple of the basics |
| 12:30.27 | rsd- | ew, vista |
| 12:30.43 | Dick_Turpin | Yeah we still have not had it in work yet but I saw a demo, they have similar to the ring although theirs are like stacked one behind the other and move forward and down like a deck of cards |
| 12:31.54 | goibhniu | all the window chrome is transparent too ... innit? |
| 12:32.14 | goibhniu | I mean not just the title bar and borders |
| 12:32.49 | Dick_Turpin | Yeah, if you hover over a minimised window you get a little thumbnail |
| 12:33.57 | goibhniu | I read a review boudiccas linked to of vista ... it kept saying how the copied all this stuff from apple ... I thought we've had lots of it before apple ...e.g. desklets |
| 12:34.27 | goibhniu | Dick_Turpin: that's the new beryl you're talking about .. with the thumnails innit? or does vista have that too? |
| 12:35.41 | Dick_Turpin | Beryl not stinking Vista have you seen the prices? and the god dam variants thats gonna make my life hell |
| 12:36.16 | goibhniu | Dick_Turpin: can you include a free copy of ubuntu with them all? |
| 12:37.08 | Dick_Turpin | goibhniu, Your just trying to upset me now, I'd put opensuse or Centos |
| 12:37.50 | goibhniu | Dick_Turpin: ok then ... knoppix |
| 12:39.23 | Dick_Turpin | goibhniu, Possibly Knoppix is a bit dangerous tho, can you imagine some Muppet with a powerful disk like that "I dunno what happend boss I clicked on sumfing and it wiped the server" |
| 12:41.40 | boudiccas | goibhniu; i liked the bit about 'craplets' :) |
| 12:41.59 | Dick_Turpin | boudiccas, Sausages |
| 12:42.09 | boudiccas | Dick_Turpin; sossidges |
| 12:42.38 | Dick_Turpin | boudiccas, :-X |
| 12:42.56 | boudiccas | Dick_Turpin; DEATH [tp steal from George] |
| 12:43.00 | boudiccas | *to |
| 12:43.35 | Dick_Turpin | boudiccas, What? |
| 12:43.49 | boudiccas | btw, have you noticed how George has changed since he's been at Cambridge. seems to have been a massive change for the better |
| 12:44.00 | goibhniu | I've been wondering if apple got their iCrap naming innovation from kde's kRap ... and surely window manager dock applets were on X window managers way before osx was around? |
| 12:45.21 | Dick_Turpin | goibhniu, What I like is the way eyecandy is now moving to the 'really useful' as apposed to just being eye catching |
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| 12:45.40 | Leeds | um... |
| 12:45.50 | z00dax_train | Hello |
| 12:46.00 | boudiccas | one desktop manager to guide them all, three managers to try to usurp them all |
| 12:46.00 | Dick_Turpin | hello |
| 12:46.08 | Leeds | one of the dance groups - dragons on roller-skates and people wearing glowing helmets - is using the Star Wars theme :-) |
| 12:46.13 | boudiccas | z00dax; hiyas |
| 12:46.17 | goibhniu | Dick_Turpin: I have to admit I've started using the virtual desktops recently ... and it's damn handy! |
| 12:47.19 | Dick_Turpin | goibhniu, I've used the cube flip since day one when it was just compiz |
| 12:48.03 | goibhniu | I've only started using it recently so I can put gaim onto a desktop somewhere far away |
| 12:48.12 | Dick_Turpin | Leeds, I want to see the one in Rio |
| 12:48.12 | boudiccas | Dick_Turpin; sound slike a coctail drink, "I'll have a 'cube flip' please?" |
| 12:48.54 | Dick_Turpin | boudiccas, Have you been at the bottle? its a little early |
| 12:49.28 | boudiccas | Dick_Turpin; nope, i'm currently drinking hot orage squash |
| 12:50.37 | Dick_Turpin | goibhniu, I've told you before I always open a new app on a new cube side then spin to which one I want and with the 'Ring' its gonna be even cooler |
| 12:51.05 | Dick_Turpin | boudiccas, orage squash sounds potent |
| 12:51.31 | boudiccas | Dick_Turpin; pretty damn weak really |
| 12:51.58 | Dick_Turpin | boudiccas, Stick a scotch in it |
| 12:52.09 | boudiccas | its a sort of comfor drink for those with a cold or the flu, of which i have neither |
| 12:52.18 | boudiccas | *comfort |
| 12:52.47 | boudiccas | no spirits at all, they've all been drunk |
| 12:53.06 | Dick_Turpin | boudiccas, You old soak ;-) |
| 12:53.23 | boudiccas | Dick_Turpin; so? :o) |
| 12:54.23 | boudiccas | currently d/ling the knoppix dvd to see what this 'beryl' thingie is like |
| 12:54.50 | Dick_Turpin | boudiccas, Come on in the waters lovely |
| 12:55.26 | boudiccas | but i doubt if it wqill run beryl nicley on this old low spec machine |
| 12:55.36 | boudiccas | *will |
| 12:56.48 | boudiccas | but, its worth a try |
| 12:56.56 | Dick_Turpin | boudiccas, :-( I think you'll be disappointed |
| 12:57.24 | boudiccas | Dick_Turpin; thats why i'm butning it to a rewritable dvd |
| 12:57.30 | boudiccas | *burning |
| 12:57.43 | goibhniu | boudiccas: what gpu have you got? |
| 12:57.55 | boudiccas | gpu? |
| 12:58.03 | goibhniu | graphics card |
| 12:58.25 | boudiccas | can't remember, hang on i'll query it |
| 12:58.29 | mumperer | boudiccas; As was I when knoppix told me that my graphuics card lacked the RTGLX extension so could nto do 3D |
| 12:59.09 | goibhniu | but for about £20 you can probably fix that |
| 12:59.35 | mumperer | Oooh! Eh? |
| 12:59.43 | goibhniu | an nvidia 5200 is plenty good |
| 12:59.55 | Dick_Turpin | boudiccas, Does the card support 3D tho? |
| 13:00.01 | goibhniu | even works on my mini-itx epia board with a pci card! |
| 13:00.25 | boudiccas | Dick_Turpin; i think so, but its not listed in the hardware broswer |
| 13:00.48 | mumperer | Does the NVIDIA G-Force 4 that HP fitted sound helpful? |
| 13:01.14 | Dick_Turpin | goibhniu, Theres a trick to turn 3D on so at least boudiccas can get the cube |
| 13:01.35 | boudiccas | i'm listening |
| 13:01.57 | goibhniu | mumperer: that should just about do it .. you won't get water or blur or snow ... but they're not really important |
| 13:02.24 | Dick_Turpin | boudiccas, I only did it under suse and it escapes me for the minute |
| 13:02.37 | mumperer | Okay peeps - I'll go looking ... TIA |
| 13:02.50 | goibhniu | boudiccas: what does lspci tell you? |
| 13:02.57 | boudiccas | Dick_Turpin; so you didn't blog it for your future reference? |
| 13:04.07 | goibhniu | mumperer: you probably won't be able to use the latest driver either ... on ubuntu that's a bit of a pain |
| 13:04.11 | boudiccas | goibhniu; 00:08.0 VGA compatible controller: Silicon Integrated Systems [SiS] 315PRO PCI/AGP VGA Display Adapter |
| 13:04.24 | goibhniu | boudiccas: I'm very sorry to hear that :( |
| 13:04.39 | boudiccas | seems that it may only be 2d |
| 13:04.47 | Dick_Turpin | boudiccas, You still don't know me that well? I spent half this morning trying to fathom out why a GDM theme wouldnt work, why?, cos I'd put it in the desktop themes thats why |
| 13:05.00 | goibhniu | you're gonna need to buy yourself a present I think |
| 13:05.26 | Dick_Turpin | goibhniu, Tell him my card your the king of graphics cards |
| 13:05.51 | boudiccas | cna't afford that kid of present to me for the time being |
| 13:05.52 | goibhniu | boudiccas: I think that gives you very very basic 3d support ... e.g. you might be able to run google earth very slowly |
| 13:06.04 | goibhniu | boudiccas: £20? |
| 13:06.16 | boudiccas | don't have the money to spare |
| 13:06.50 | boudiccas | all allocated for buying food and paying bills atm |
| 13:06.56 | goibhniu | boudiccas: you can set up a paypal #gllug swear box |
| 13:07.56 | boudiccas | goibhniu; :) but i hardly swear now, so that would be pretty empty after a week. I'm hoping the situation will have improved by mid april/to the end of april |
| 13:09.20 | Dick_Turpin | boudiccas, How about my old nvidia card? |
| 13:10.08 | boudiccas | Dick_Turpin; what old nvidia card? i toasted one when i tried to plug in the monitor when both were live! |
| 13:10.51 | boudiccas | that reminds me, i need to schedule some downtime to remove that dead disk so that smartd can run |
| 13:11.54 | Dick_Turpin | boudiccas, Not exactly sure I think its Nvidia Geeforce4 tornado (something) tsi really good card although snow was crap and water did'nt work |
| 13:14.08 | boudiccas | Dick_Turpin; strange part of the world you live in, where snow is crap, and water doesn't work. must make it difficult when you want a cup of tea! ;o))))) |
| 13:14.38 | Dick_Turpin | boudiccas, See I was offering to post it to you for free but....... |
| 13:14.57 | boudiccas | but ...? |
| 13:15.15 | Dick_Turpin | boudiccas, I'm not sure if you've upset me |
| 13:15.24 | boudiccas | lol |
| 13:16.02 | Dick_Turpin | boudiccas, email me where you want it sending and I'll look into it tomorrow |
| 13:16.27 | boudiccas | Dick_Turpin; what email address? |
| 13:16.41 | boudiccas | should we go pm? |
| 13:20.12 | Dick_Turpin | I'm going soft in me old age |
| 13:21.37 | goibhniu | Dick_Turpin: ... shouldn't you be looking in the mirror and repeating to yourself "Today I'm going to sell this card" |
| 13:23.15 | Dick_Turpin | goibhniu, I'm an old fart, cant resist helping a damsel in distress |
| 13:23.41 | Dick_Turpin | goibhniu, Plus its just sat under my bed doing nothing |
| 13:24.05 | boudiccas | this damsel in dis dress is wearing slacks atm, they're warmer that dis dress |
| 13:24.17 | Dick_Turpin | eeww |
| 13:24.49 | boudiccas | bad jokes r me :o) |
| 13:27.10 | Dick_Turpin | OK I'm outta here maybe C U all later. Big hugs |
| 13:53.09 | rsd- | ugh this ssh tunnel is being difficult |
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| 15:17.08 | Leeds | Bat out of Hell sung to Postman Pat :-) |
| 15:19.38 | morsing | Leeds! |
| 15:19.45 | Leeds | morsing! |
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| 15:25.47 | trousers_ | Evening |
| 15:27.47 | Leeds | evening |
| 15:39.25 | mumperer | Evening, people - I have a question: I do not know how to "run" a suggested set of instructions in a Ubuntu Forum aimed at sorting out the xsane/scanner set-up. I saved it as a text tile ... but. |
| 15:40.15 | gw280 | hrmm |
| 15:40.23 | gw280 | http://blog.gwright.org.uk/articles/2007/02/18/nx-and-the-nokia-770 |
| 15:40.36 | goibhniu | mumperer: chmod +x filename.sh |
| 15:40.37 | goibhniu | mumperer: ./filename.sh |
| 15:41.05 | goibhniu | mumperer: sorry I gotta run ... but you can also paste each line into a terminal ... it's a pretty short script |
| 15:41.10 | Leeds | depending on what the instructions are, it might be better to do them manually on the command-line, at least once |
| 15:41.23 | goibhniu | plugging out and in the scanner may be necessary |
| 15:42.20 | Leeds | also, you've got to make sure you've got the right species of goat for the sacrifice |
| 15:42.28 | z00dax | boudiccas: hi |
| 15:43.39 | mumperer | Wow - like the AA "a very nice man, a VERY nice man ..." - My sincere thanks - I will go forth now to enjoy my Sunday lunch! I'll let you know how on I got after tomorrow's ventures! |
| 16:05.35 | boudiccas | z00dax; hiyas |
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| 17:26.48 | z00dax | boudiccas: whats up |
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| 18:05.05 | boudiccas | z00dax; i'm wondering the same :) I think that we've got out wires crossed, and I'm okay and I'm hoping that you are the same :) |
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| 18:37.29 | trousers_ | What's a decent Usenet client? |
| 18:38.08 | rsd- | tin ? |
| 18:38.14 | rsd- | it's ncurses |
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| 18:54.07 | Leeds | pan |
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| 19:02.28 | rhowe | slrn |
| 20:03.43 | Leeds | oh, for fuck's sake |
| 20:03.55 | Leeds | how fucking stupid am I? |
| 20:04.30 | Leeds | anyone around? |
| 20:09.40 | goibhniu | Leeds: I'll bet you 10p I'm stoopider |
| 20:09.58 | Leeds | really bet you're not |
| 20:10.15 | goibhniu | go on ... gimme what you've got |
| 20:10.48 | Leeds | how about telling a girl you like, and who likes you that a) you're never going to marry her and have kids until she becomes Jewish and b) you're not really looking for anything serious anyway... |
| 20:11.39 | goibhniu | Leeds: but most women like a challenge :D |
| 20:11.45 | Leeds | nah |
| 20:11.56 | Leeds | this was me adding to her existing list of the issues between us |
| 20:12.52 | Leeds | pretty fucking stupid |
| 20:16.07 | goibhniu | well, it sounds like this was all pretty serious heavy stuff ... which probably isn't what anyone's looking for ... regardless of how things could work out further down the line |
| 20:16.53 | Leeds | 4am on the phone when she - at least - has had a really tiring weekend is a pretty crappy time to be discussing that sort of thing anyway |
| 20:21.46 | wethrin | Leeds: Ooops |
| 20:27.40 | clive-h | I had to disable xen to get sound working on my lpatop |
| 20:28.59 | z00dax | clive-h: why ? |
| 20:29.05 | z00dax | and what kernel ? |
| 20:29.16 | z00dax | Leeds: maybe she wont remember in the morning |
| 20:29.28 | Leeds | think she will :-( |
| 20:29.35 | clive-h | FC6 stock kernel |
| 20:29.47 | Leeds | and in the meantime, my mum's mail is broken... |
| 20:29.59 | z00dax | not quite as critical an issue though |
| 20:30.23 | clive-h | I think I'll try FC7 test 1 tomorrow |
| 20:30.30 | Leeds | it's on the same machine as mine, same imapd, same smtpd... but there's a lock being created and not going away on her mailbox |
| 20:30.37 | z00dax | why not just try an updated kernel clive-h ? |
| 20:30.55 | clive-h | I'm on the current kernel |
| 20:31.06 | z00dax | ah ok |
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| 20:31.13 | Leeds | Message abandoned: Spool write error (No space left on device) while receiving message |
| 20:31.26 | clive-h | xen isn't handling sound on the nforce4 xchipset |
| 20:31.26 | z00dax | that would do it |
| 20:49.08 | Leeds | argh... |
| 20:49.34 | rhowe | rm -rf ~mum/Maildir |
| 20:50.05 | Leeds | Mailbox |
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