| 00:21.36 | trousers_ | Morning |
| 00:21.47 | wethrin | Don't you have school tomorrow? |
| 00:21.53 | trousers_ | Today |
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| 00:22.18 | wethrin | It's still Sunday, because I haven't been to bed yet |
| 00:22.29 | trousers_ | Fair enough |
| 00:22.38 | trousers_ | But only to an extent |
| 00:22.50 | wethrin | True |
| 00:23.42 | trousers_ | I've got plenty of Red Dwarf to watch, plenty of maths books to read and plenty of time to waste |
| 00:24.08 | Leeds | it's mid-morning on Monday |
| 00:24.09 | wethrin | I ought to clean my rack |
| 00:24.21 | wethrin | It's currently blocking the bathroom door |
| 00:24.34 | Leeds | Dean has a bright red head... got very burnt yesterday... |
| 00:24.49 | trousers_ | Leeds: How's linux.conf.au? |
| 00:25.09 | trousers_ | wethrin: How I can't wait until I live alone :P |
| 00:25.11 | wethrin | Oops |
| 00:25.19 | wethrin | trousers_: I have housemates |
| 00:25.40 | Leeds | good so far - met a couple of random people, in a session about qtopia and the greenphone now |
| 00:25.48 | trousers_ | wethrin: Well, how I long until I can have loads of tech crap lying about without complaints from my parents :D |
| 00:26.11 | wethrin | And, really, the house is too small for the amount of stuff :) |
| 00:26.16 | wethrin | I'm going to have to take quite a bit home |
| 00:26.43 | trousers_ | Also, WiFi works on the laptop again! |
| 00:26.44 | wethrin | My parents (well, mother) eventually gave up on complaining about me having lots of crap |
| 00:26.56 | wethrin | But I'm having a big purge of stuff |
| 00:27.06 | trousers_ | It seems udev was being a bit evil, so I returned to an older version |
| 00:27.14 | wethrin | ah |
| 00:27.44 | trousers_ | Hopefully first Linux club meeting Tuesday lunchtime at school 'o/ |
| 00:28.07 | trousers_ | s/'/\/ |
| 00:28.23 | wethrin | I never got up to date with this whole devfs/udev bollocks |
| 00:28.36 | trousers_ | Hmm, neither have I :P |
| 00:29.44 | wethrin | Is it bad that in a weeks' time I'm going to have two racks? |
| 00:30.07 | trousers_ | Yes, yes it is, you should give them to me :P |
| 00:30.27 | wethrin | Won't your parents object? :) |
| 00:30.59 | trousers_ | Not too much... They just get irritated when it's mostly covering my bedroom floor and when the power bill spikes :) |
| 00:31.05 | wethrin | Ahh :) |
| 00:31.54 | wethrin | I might have an E450 going spare in half a year's time, if you're interested |
| 00:32.01 | wethrin | Note MIGHT |
| 00:32.04 | trousers_ | Processor speed + arch? |
| 00:32.25 | wethrin | 4x 300(?)MHz Sparcs |
| 00:32.29 | wethrin | UltraSparc IIi |
| 00:32.30 | trousers_ | Sure! |
| 00:32.43 | wethrin | Needs two people to lift, and is on wheels |
| 00:32.53 | trousers_ | You can dump anything > 100MHz on me :P |
| 00:32.54 | wethrin | But is actually quite easy for two people to lift |
| 00:33.23 | wethrin | I think you'll have to run Solaris on it :) |
| 00:33.31 | trousers_ | Gentoo :) |
| 00:33.52 | wethrin | Sure, if you only want to use one processor |
| 00:33.56 | trousers_ | Oh |
| 00:34.06 | trousers_ | Linux can only use one SPARC processor? |
| 00:34.30 | wethrin | There's some Sparc models that Linux doesn't support, or doesn't support in multi-processor mode |
| 00:34.41 | wethrin | The E450 might be one of them, but I'm not entirely sure of that |
| 00:35.02 | trousers_ | Well, I guess Solaris isn't too bad, I assume openSolaris is okay |
| 00:35.10 | wethrin | It'll probably also take about 15 minutes to boot up :) |
| 00:35.24 | trousers_ | wethrin: Rebooting is not something I do, nor enjoy |
| 00:35.24 | wethrin | OpenSolaris should be fine |
| 00:35.47 | wethrin | If you want to have a 1.6kW machine running all the time, fine :) |
| 00:35.53 | trousers_ | 1.6kW?! |
| 00:36.10 | wethrin | Yes. |
| 00:36.30 | wethrin | Well, this one would be less, as it doesn't have 20 disks in it |
| 00:36.32 | trousers_ | I think I could run it as a server for Linux club... Running off of the school's power :D |
| 00:37.12 | wethrin | :) |
| 00:37.35 | wethrin | I'll see what happens at the end of the academic year. At the moment, the machine is still the computing society's |
| 00:38.01 | trousers_ | It seems the physics teacher I thought would be okay knows about Unix and Linux, and has even used RedHat 6 :) |
| 00:38.27 | wethrin | That's nicely old :) |
| 00:45.46 | z00dax | hiya people |
| 00:46.00 | Leeds | morning z00dax |
| 00:46.15 | z00dax | trousers_: if you want to find out about sparc/linux - talk to dgilmore on this network... tell him I asked you to get in touch |
| 00:46.25 | z00dax | heya Leeds |
| 00:46.32 | z00dax | howse ozeland ? |
| 00:46.45 | Leeds | hot... fun |
| 00:47.09 | z00dax | kinda like the UK then |
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| 04:18.46 | z00dax | you know its bed time, when the logrotate reports start pouring in via email, and you are still awake and here since yesterday |
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| 07:56.19 | morsing | 'morning |
| 07:57.28 | z00dax | hiya morsing |
| 08:00.05 | morsing | z00dax! |
| 08:00.05 | morsing | z00dax: When's wethrin arriving? |
| 08:00.05 | z00dax | he already did |
| 08:00.05 | z00dax | 30 odd years back |
| 08:00.05 | morsing | ping wethrin |
| 08:00.05 | morsing | Ah... |
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| 08:04.42 | morsing | SlayerXP! |
| 08:04.46 | SlayerXP | lo |
| 08:21.27 | morsing | What's RedBus datacenter's address? |
| 08:21.42 | murb | morsing: which one? |
| 08:21.47 | morsing | Fuck off |
| 08:22.26 | murb | morsing: http://www.interhouse.net/datacentre/datacentre.htm |
| 08:24.04 | murb | http://www.interhouse.net/datacentre/locations/locations.htm might be better |
| 08:24.31 | morsing | There are three of them, which one is it? |
| 08:25.17 | murb | probably Meridian Gat |
| 08:25.18 | murb | e |
| 08:25.23 | SlayerXP | i have a server in there |
| 08:25.30 | murb | so do i . |
| 08:25.35 | SlayerXP | mine's bigger |
| 08:25.41 | murb | mine's fatter |
| 08:25.50 | SlayerXP | i can believe that |
| 08:25.51 | murb | mine has more memory |
| 08:26.07 | murb | (probably) |
| 08:26.13 | SlayerXP | probably |
| 08:26.22 | SlayerXP | mine, however, processes more mail than yours |
| 08:26.44 | murb | quite possibly. |
| 08:26.54 | morsing | murb: It's Sovereign House |
| 08:26.59 | morsing | ~seen secretlondon |
| 08:27.23 | ibot | secretlondon <i=ac9f2bec@wikipedia/secretlondon> was last seen on IRC in channel #gllug, 6d 11h 36m 6s ago, saying: 'anyway - must go now'. |
| 08:27.24 | morsing | Geeks |
| 08:28.05 | murb | currently i'm paying too much :( |
| 08:28.26 | SlayerXP | i've just put a new box in with a company called Serverology |
| 08:28.33 | SlayerXP | 550/year for 1u |
| 08:28.44 | murb | i'm paying 800 quid for 1u in rbii |
| 08:28.51 | murb | SlayerXP: howmuch power/bw? |
| 08:29.36 | SlayerXP | pass. |
| 08:30.01 | SlayerXP | "enough" anyway, we're his first paying customer. |
| 08:30.12 | SlayerXP | his rack has very little in it |
| 08:30.53 | morsing | Nice |
| 08:32.14 | SlayerXP | my box is a dual xeon, 4gb memory and 3 scsi disks |
| 08:38.49 | murb | freenode-- # blocking messages |
| 08:39.25 | SlayerXP | Fetched 16.8MB in 1s (9239kB/s) |
| 08:39.37 | SlayerXP | not sure what the bandwidth is, but it's nippy |
| 08:41.57 | murb | probably a 100mb |
| 08:42.26 | morsing | I've got 100Mb/s at the moment |
| 08:43.31 | murb | 1000Mb/s managed switches haven't got cheap yet. |
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| 08:55.47 | morsing | tarragon! |
| 08:56.04 | morsing | murb: Yes they have |
| 08:57.29 | tarragon | Hi morsing |
| 08:58.06 | morsing | How's the Amstrad? |
| 08:59.27 | tarragon | Fine, needs a new keyboard membrane, so I might be forced to make one. |
| 08:59.43 | morsing | Cool :) |
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| 09:06.47 | morsing | Leeds! |
| 09:06.59 | morsing | What did you think of the last king of scotland? |
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| 09:08.05 | morsing | huw-l! |
| 09:08.11 | huw-l | morning |
| 09:10.01 | morsing | SkiingFrom: Support |
| 09:10.02 | morsing | Sent: 15 January 2007 09:05 |
| 09:10.02 | morsing | To: 'russel.tinnion@tmproperty.co.uk' |
| 09:10.02 | morsing | <PROTECTED> |
| 09:10.17 | morsing | FUSJDNFSCSR*!¬!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! |
| 09:11.20 | Leeds | don't suppose anyone has Dean's mobile number to hand? |
| 09:11.44 | z00dax | we really should all start a co-op for gllug people, and lease a rack or two |
| 09:11.55 | z00dax | I've got a few machines i'd put into something close by |
| 09:12.06 | SlayerXP | Leeds: dean as in wilson? |
| 09:12.06 | z00dax | huw-l: ! |
| 09:12.12 | Leeds | SlayerXP: yes |
| 09:12.18 | SlayerXP | Leeds: he's in australia |
| 09:12.19 | z00dax | huw-l: I need to talk to you at some point.. |
| 09:12.28 | z00dax | i think Leeds is as well |
| 09:12.30 | Leeds | SlayerXP: I know... I had lunch with him today |
| 09:12.40 | SlayerXP | oic |
| 09:12.46 | SlayerXP | as it happens, I don't have his mobile number |
| 09:13.03 | Leeds | and I can report back that he was very anxious to get back in time for the first post-lunch session because he was under orders to take notes |
| 09:13.21 | Leeds | might anyone else, somewhere near you, have his number? |
| 09:14.00 | morsing | SlayerXP: Oink? |
| 09:14.18 | SlayerXP | Leeds: perhaps |
| 09:15.40 | SlayerXP | morsing: ? |
| 09:15.56 | murb | Leeds: what is the postlunch session? |
| 09:16.19 | Leeds | murb: it was "Self-healing databases: managing schema updates in the field" I believe |
| 09:16.35 | morsing | SlayerXP: Why did you say "Oink?" |
| 09:16.50 | SlayerXP | morsing: I didn't |
| 09:16.59 | murb | Leeds: are the talks being filmned? |
| 09:19.44 | huw-l | z00dax: should be around most of the week |
| 09:20.13 | Leeds | murb: not sure... today and tomorrow is technically not the main conference |
| 09:22.21 | murb | i'm intersted in the rustyvisor talk. |
| 09:22.58 | phearless | hi #gllug ! |
| 09:24.11 | Leeds | I had dinner with Rusty, by accident, last night |
| 09:24.27 | morsing | Where do I get an old fuse holder for fuse wire? |
| 09:24.56 | z00dax | morsing: i know a guy in San Diego who did that sort of thing |
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| 09:34.11 | morsing | catalyst! |
| 09:34.14 | morsing | asht_007! |
| 09:34.55 | catalyst | morsing! |
| 10:02.25 | phearless | phearless! |
| 10:05.40 | morsing | tarragon! |
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| 10:48.34 | morsing | robo_ro! |
| 10:49.06 | robo_ro | morsing! |
| 10:53.30 | wethrin | hello |
| 10:53.40 | robo_ro | wethrin |
| 10:54.12 | wethrin | ahoy |
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| 11:00.12 | morsing | goibhniu! |
| 11:00.15 | morsing | wethrin! |
| 11:00.21 | wethrin | yeah |
| 11:00.23 | wethrin | <PROTECTED> |
| 11:00.51 | goibhniu | morsing! |
| 11:01.01 | goibhniu | How was the last king of scotland? |
| 11:01.16 | morsing | goibhniu: It was very good. I was impressed :) |
| 11:01.22 | morsing | I can recommend it |
| 11:01.30 | morsing | goibhniu: How did you remember? |
| 11:01.34 | goibhniu | I heard a review, sounded great alright |
| 11:01.55 | sabinef72 | morning |
| 11:02.00 | goibhniu | I don't know ... I have a very bad memory |
| 11:02.01 | sabinef72 | morsing !!!!!!!!!!!!! |
| 11:02.46 | morsing | sabinef72! |
| 11:02.54 | morsing | sabinef72: I went to the cinema on Friday |
| 11:02.59 | sabinef72 | yeahhhhhh |
| 11:03.02 | morsing | :) |
| 11:03.03 | sabinef72 | what did you see ? |
| 11:03.11 | morsing | Last King of Scotland |
| 11:03.32 | morsing | Had a great night |
| 11:05.49 | morsing | How do I pay congestion charge? |
| 11:05.49 | hali | go in to a newsagents |
| 11:05.49 | morsing | Anywhere? |
| 11:05.49 | morsing | Staines? |
| 11:05.49 | wethrin | Possibly - there's a newsagent in Beaconsfield that does it |
| 11:05.49 | wethrin | You can even pay by text message, apparently |
| 11:05.54 | morsing | Nice |
| 11:05.56 | morsing | How? |
| 11:06.14 | hali | wwww.cclondon.com |
| 11:06.44 | morsing | hali: Is my car exempt? |
| 11:07.11 | morsing | goibhniu: So do I |
| 11:07.35 | hali | no idea |
| 11:07.58 | goibhniu | isn't it only those little gwiz cars and some hybrid ones that are exempt? |
| 11:08.19 | morsing | goibhniu: What about really old ones? |
| 11:08.49 | goibhniu | morsing: I doubt it very much |
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| 11:39.41 | morsing | asht_007! |
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| 11:51.25 | morsing | eyore! |
| 11:51.32 | eyore | morsing! |
| 11:56.10 | morsing | Does anyone here want to buy a VAXstation? |
| 11:56.48 | morsing | Or a SparcStation? |
| 11:56.48 | murb | *buy* ?? |
| 11:56.52 | morsing | Yes |
| 11:56.56 | morsing | murb: Fuck off |
| 11:57.21 | murb | normally such stuff is given away now days. |
| 11:57.36 | morsing | I'll throw it in the bin then... |
| 11:57.58 | murb | morsing: offer to exchange it for beer |
| 11:58.27 | morsing | 35 pints? |
| 12:00.20 | psnl | thats a lot of beer, you might need a hand |
| 12:06.38 | murb | psnl: well he wouldn't want to drink it through a straw. |
| 12:08.45 | wethrin | What vaxstation/sparcstation? |
| 12:10.04 | morsing | 4000 |
| 12:10.18 | morsing | SS10 or 20 or something |
| 12:11.30 | wethrin | The 4000 isn't a bad one. Fairly nippy, from what I remember |
| 12:11.30 | psnl | murb: I can't think of any amount of beer I would want to drink though a straw |
| 12:11.30 | wethrin | SS10/20 aren't worth anything |
| 12:12.30 | morsing | £1.70? |
| 12:13.25 | wethrin | If they're being delivered |
| 12:13.34 | morsing | £23 delivery |
| 12:14.07 | murb | what does ebay think they are worth? |
| 12:14.15 | morsing | Who? |
| 12:14.27 | murb | i'm not sure ebay lets you hold auctions using beer as the currancy though. |
| 12:14.34 | murb | maybe you should set up a system using ePints |
| 12:15.02 | murb | https://www.epointsystem.org/ePint/ |
| 12:15.37 | wethrin | There's a dual-CPU one for £5, no bids, no disk, 128MB memory, pick up only |
| 12:16.24 | murb | wethrin: so about 1.5 london pints? |
| 12:17.00 | morsing | wethrin: Mine's single CPU, 64MB memory and 1GB disk |
| 12:17.12 | morsing | And no CD drive |
| 12:17.14 | murb | call it a half then. |
| 12:18.06 | morsing | Does anyone know what and where this is? |
| 12:18.10 | morsing | http://www.morsing.cc/photos/Scotland-summer2004/imm023.jpg |
| 12:19.12 | wethrin | Something by Loch Tay, I presume |
| 12:19.23 | morsing | Loch Tay? And what's the monument? |
| 12:19.43 | wethrin | Killin - LBW |
| 12:19.49 | wethrin | No idea what it is |
| 12:20.04 | morsing | wethrin: Nope - you're wrong |
| 12:20.31 | morsing | I believe it was close to Killin/Fort Williams but it's got nothing to do with LBW |
| 12:21.01 | wethrin | Oh, no. LBW was 2005, wasn't it? |
| 12:21.13 | murb | morsing: did you get rid of your gps unit in the end? |
| 12:21.24 | morsing | murb: The NavMan one? |
| 12:21.28 | morsing | wethrin: Yes |
| 12:21.45 | morsing | murb: No - still have it - still crap |
| 12:22.08 | wethrin | How much for it? |
| 12:22.22 | wethrin | The Vaxstation 4000 appears to be worth a little bit of money |
| 12:23.29 | morsing | Well, £185? |
| 12:24.14 | murb | morsing: are you planning on moving again? |
| 12:24.20 | morsing | murb: Never |
| 12:25.08 | robo_ro | morsing: http://images.google.co.uk/images?q=glenfinnan%20monument&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&rls=org.debian:en-US:unofficial&client=firefox-a&sa=N&tab=wi |
| 12:25.13 | morsing | wethrin: Can I consider it sold then? |
| 12:25.25 | robo_ro | that the one you're looking for? |
| 12:26.05 | morsing | robo_ro: Cool. Thanks :) |
| 12:26.21 | morsing | wethrin: My Exonetric network is *very* dodgy |
| 12:26.23 | robo_ro | :-) |
| 12:27.06 | wethrin | morsing: Not to me :) |
| 12:27.17 | wethrin | And my exonetric connectivity is fine |
| 12:27.18 | morsing | robo_ro: Which lake is it? |
| 12:27.23 | wethrin | Must be a connection on your end |
| 12:27.32 | wethrin | morsing: You should ask psn that |
| 12:27.51 | morsing | psnl: Which lake is it? |
| 12:28.07 | robo_ro | Set amid superb scenery at the head of Loch Shiel, the Glenfinnnan Monument was erected in tribute to those who fought and died in the Jacobite cause. |
| 12:28.14 | psnl | which lake is what? |
| 12:28.22 | morsing | psnl: Pay attention! |
| 12:28.30 | morsing | psnl: Loch Shiel |
| 12:28.37 | morsing | psnl: slaps psnl |
| 12:28.39 | psnl | what about it? |
| 12:28.45 | morsing | psnl: Which one is it? |
| 12:28.58 | wethrin | http://www.morsing.cc/photos/Scotland-summer2004/imm023.jpg - identify! |
| 12:29.02 | psnl | eh? its loch Shiel |
| 12:29.27 | psnl | looks like a war momoral |
| 12:29.40 | wethrin | Well, yes, robo_ro just said that :) |
| 12:30.01 | morsing | You people are hopeless... |
| 12:31.10 | morsing | ibot people here are hopeless |
| 12:31.12 | ibot | okay, morsing |
| 12:31.19 | morsing | ibot people |
| 12:31.20 | ibot | Frontend/wrapper to rwho. URL: ftp://ftp.lysator.liu.se/pub/unix/people/ |
| 12:32.36 | morsing | wethrin: What's TwoSheds doing? |
| 12:34.44 | wethrin | I don't know |
| 12:35.13 | psnl | morsing: http://www.loveofscotland.com/pics/glenfinnan1.jpg <- think its the same doda? |
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| 12:37.12 | morsing | asht_007! |
| 12:37.23 | psnl | what? |
| 12:37.46 | boudiccas | i think morsing just sneezed |
| 12:37.51 | psnl | ah |
| 12:38.03 | morsing | psnl: Yes! |
| 12:38.41 | psnl | it even tells you where it is |
| 12:38.55 | morsing | Nice |
| 12:40.32 | morsing | wethrin: Does this look right: |
| 12:40.34 | morsing | http://www.multimap.com/map/browse.cgi?client=public&search_result=&db=pc&lang=&keepicon=true&pc=E142AA&advanced=&client=public&addr2=&quicksearch=E14%202AA&addr3=&addr1= |
| 12:43.52 | wethrin | That looks horribly long |
| 12:44.02 | morsing | Weird |
| 12:45.14 | morsing | wethrin: So if I go there? |
| 12:46.14 | wethrin | Umm? |
| 12:46.28 | wethrin | I need to go meet people for lunch - you'll still be around after 2? |
| 12:47.01 | Leeds | lunch? lunch??? insert timezone comment here |
| 12:47.18 | wethrin | You and your crazy northern suns! |
| 12:53.56 | morsing | wethrin: Yes |
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| 13:01.11 | dick_turpin | Stick em up! |
| 13:01.59 | eyore | i feel sick. one of saddams aides who was hanged was decapitated during the hanging |
| 13:02.04 | eyore | just thought i'd share |
| 13:02.54 | dick_turpin | tarragon: 30 peices? |
| 13:03.16 | SlayerXP | always a risk when you hang someone |
| 13:03.25 | SlayerXP | same result though |
| 13:03.37 | tarragon | eyore, That is bad hanging. The drop was too long. You are upposed to adjust the drop dependent on weight |
| 13:03.41 | dick_turpin | cued his headache tho |
| 13:03.51 | dick_turpin | cured even |
| 13:11.14 | morsing | Nice |
| 13:11.29 | dick_turpin | morsing: :-* |
| 13:11.36 | morsing | ping sabinef72 |
| 13:13.58 | Leeds | ibot: seen sabinef72 |
| 13:14.06 | ibot | sabinef72 is currently on #gllug. Has said a total of 20 messages. Is idling for 2h 11m 3s, last said: 'what did you see ?'. |
| 13:16.31 | goibhniu | anyone want a free Palm IIIc? |
| 13:16.52 | Leeds | goibhniu: a museum? |
| 13:16.53 | dick_turpin | goibhniu: Is it colour? |
| 13:17.24 | Leeds | IIIc was the first colour Palm |
| 13:17.28 | goibhniu | dick_turpin: the first colour one .. need to collect from london tho |
| 13:17.51 | goibhniu | it's not mine ... just heard about it from someone else |
| 13:18.12 | dick_turpin | goibhniu: Right I'll jump in me car must be worth the 300 mile round trip |
| 13:19.01 | morsing | Does anyone here mind being secondary DNS for my two zones? |
| 13:19.09 | dick_turpin | I've got an m105 sat on my desk |
| 13:19.57 | goibhniu | dick_turpin: you could use it to stick post it notes on |
| 13:20.44 | tarragon | dick_turpin, where are you? That is almost as far away as me but no where near as far away as Leeds |
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| 13:22.35 | dick_turpin | goibhniu: Its pants but was the envy of everyone when they first came out |
| 13:23.37 | dick_turpin | tarragon: Ye olde town of Bridgtown, Staffordshire about 25 miles north of Birmingham |
| 13:30.26 | Leeds | 'night all |
| 13:34.01 | morsing | Leeds! |
| 13:43.13 | goibhniu | what do you do when kill -9 doesn't work? |
| 13:43.26 | Leeds | goibhniu: D state? |
| 13:43.37 | goibhniu | Leeds! |
| 13:43.40 | goibhniu | yep |
| 13:44.24 | Leeds | means it's stuck in the kernel, normally blocking on some IO, and won't notice the signal 9 until it returns to userspace |
| 13:44.47 | goibhniu | ahh ... feck |
| 13:44.56 | Leeds | often, blocking on some IO which will never arrive |
| 13:45.59 | goibhniu | does this mean I need to reboot!? |
| 13:47.15 | Leeds | possibly, yes |
| 13:47.22 | goibhniu | wow! |
| 13:47.43 | Leeds | it may return, or timeout... but it may not |
| 13:48.05 | goibhniu | thanks Leeds ... your advice is, as ever, illuminating |
| 13:50.19 | Leeds | pleasure... and now - to sleep! |
| 13:54.56 | goibhniu | horray! it curled up and died! |
| 13:58.15 | goibhniu | it was fuse/sshfs I think |
| 14:07.38 | morsing | fuse? |
| 14:10.00 | goibhniu | morsing: it's some kind of thing that can make things act like a filesystem |
| 14:10.16 | goibhniu | e.g. a gmail account, wikipedia, ssh |
| 14:10.33 | morsing | Quite useless then? |
| 14:10.48 | goibhniu | "filesystem in userspace" |
| 14:11.09 | goibhniu | useless for feeding a cat ... but apart from that it's pretty handy |
| 14:13.10 | wethrin | morsing: Am I not secondary DNS for you? |
| 14:15.03 | morsing | wethrin: No |
| 14:15.11 | wethrin | oh |
| 14:15.29 | morsing | You're plugged into the same switch as me, what would be the point |
| 14:15.39 | wethrin | If your computer, rather than the network, goes down |
| 14:15.47 | morsing | But still |
| 14:15.50 | wethrin | True |
| 14:15.55 | wethrin | You're backup MX for me :) |
| 14:16.02 | morsing | I know, pointless again |
| 14:16.09 | wethrin | not entirely |
| 14:16.15 | morsing | Hmm... |
| 14:16.26 | morsing | wethrin: Got a mail from TwoSheds :) |
| 14:16.38 | wethrin | Because if my computer goes down, then at least the mail is around the correct network |
| 14:16.47 | wethrin | Yay! |
| 14:16.56 | wethrin | I'm going to have two racks soon |
| 14:17.12 | morsing | Nice |
| 14:17.20 | wethrin | morsing: Right. What did you want to ask about driving to Telehouse? |
| 14:17.30 | wethrin | You seem to have got the right address on multimap |
| 14:17.56 | morsing | wethrin: Do I need to phone Caroline at some point or will she just meet me there? |
| 14:18.57 | wethrin | In theory meet you there. In practice, it's probably best to phone |
| 14:19.05 | wethrin | I'll send her a text soon to remind her :) |
| 14:19.15 | wethrin | What time're you at the datacentre? 6? 6.30? |
| 14:19.51 | morsing | 6:30 |
| 14:20.07 | morsing | Could phone her before I leave here at 4:30 if you think... |
| 14:22.12 | wethrin | Could be wise. Hopefully she'll turn up! |
| 14:22.27 | morsing | :) |
| 14:22.34 | wethrin | What time're you meeting the Bluelinux guys? |
| 14:22.34 | morsing | Does she know London well? |
| 14:22.36 | psnl | wethrin: who are you dealing with at the bluelinux end? |
| 14:22.48 | wethrin | psnl: Rob will be at the datacentre, I think |
| 14:22.50 | morsing | wethrin: About 7:30 if we can make it |
| 14:23.03 | psnl | Rob who? |
| 14:23.16 | psnl | McQueen? Bradford? |
| 14:23.34 | morsing | wethrin: Not Nigel? |
| 14:24.17 | wethrin | psnl: Fuck knows. I'm not going to be there :) |
| 14:24.27 | wethrin | Don't think it's McQueen |
| 14:24.41 | morsing | Nigel Hardy willl be there |
| 14:24.45 | psnl | yeah, since last itme I head from him he was flying to .au |
| 14:24.46 | morsing | Or is that Exonetric |
| 14:24.51 | wethrin | Exonetric |
| 14:24.53 | wethrin | I think |
| 14:25.03 | morsing | Ah... It's Rob Bradford then |
| 14:25.08 | wethrin | I don't know. To be honest, it doesn't really matter to me :-) |
| 14:25.11 | cpufreak | the robster |
| 14:25.20 | cpufreak | say hello to him from me, not seen the young scamp in years |
| 14:26.24 | wethrin | morsing: Could you give me a call tonight when hades is connected up, and connected to serial console? |
| 14:26.44 | wethrin | Or get Rob to do so, with a serial console username/password |
| 14:26.44 | morsing | Sure |
| 14:26.49 | wethrin | yay! |
| 14:26.57 | morsing | cpufreak: I haven't got a clue who you are! |
| 14:27.06 | cpufreak | say cpufreak, or andrew mulholland |
| 14:27.10 | cpufreak | he'll know what you mean either way |
| 14:28.41 | morsing | http://www.proni.gov.uk/records/private/dunleath.htm |
| 14:28.54 | murb | wethrin: why are you moving to the land of power failiures? |
| 14:29.09 | psnl | money |
| 14:29.11 | wethrin | murb: Because Telehouse is too expensive |
| 14:29.27 | murb | oh, i thoguht you had a good deal? |
| 14:29.51 | psnl | murb: "had" is the right word |
| 14:30.05 | wethrin | Yeah. They doubled in price |
| 14:30.10 | wethrin | So now it's about £70/month |
| 14:30.29 | cpufreak | there's cheap places in telehouse still |
| 14:30.35 | cpufreak | www.bogons.net | www.jump.net.uk |
| 14:30.44 | cpufreak | s/cheap/cheap but decent/ |
| 14:33.39 | SlayerXP | our next box will be with bogons |
| 14:34.07 | wethrin | I think bogons were just a little above my price range at the moment |
| 14:34.19 | wethrin | Bluelinux is £40/month |
| 14:34.25 | wethrin | with $lots of transfer |
| 14:35.00 | murb | i'm sure i crossed them off my list for some reason or other when bcn increased their prices. |
| 14:36.05 | murb | oh they are not an LIR |
| 14:36.18 | wethrin | LIR? |
| 14:36.30 | antiphase | http://www.bogons.net/status.shtml # reassuring |
| 14:36.51 | antiphase | Local Internet Registry |
| 14:36.53 | murb | wethrin: LocalIPRegistery or something, means getting an allocation from RIPE and being able to delegate. |
| 14:36.59 | wethrin | murb: Ahh. |
| 14:37.10 | murb | i already have a /28 from bcn for Xen purposes |
| 14:37.46 | wethrin | Bluelinux have told me that if I want extra IP addresses, I just have to ask - they've got loads to go round |
| 14:37.46 | murb | given they only have a /24 altogether |
| 14:38.44 | wethrin | Does anyone have opinions on O'Reilly's "Cisco IOS Cookbook"? |
| 14:38.53 | wethrin | Is it a particularly good / bad book? |
| 14:39.30 | murb | it is a fun book, from what i read. |
| 14:39.40 | murb | but it really depends what you need. |
| 14:39.45 | wethrin | Right. I could get copy for review, then. |
| 14:39.48 | murb | it was useful when i was dealing with ciscos on the interweb. |
| 14:39.59 | wethrin | Well, I've got some Cisco Catalyst switches. Is it likely to cover those? |
| 14:39.59 | murb | wethrin: it isn't exactly a new book. |
| 14:40.05 | wethrin | 2nd ed. is new |
| 14:40.08 | murb | unless it is a nTh edition. |
| 14:40.16 | wethrin | Just available as a review copy |
| 15:05.11 | morsing | And what's this: |
| 15:05.13 | morsing | http://www.morsing.cc/photos/Scotland-summer2004/imm050.jpg |
| 15:05.57 | wethrin | verrniice |
| 15:06.05 | wethrin | Don't know where it is, though |
| 15:06.11 | robo_ro | its a ruined castle |
| 15:07.07 | robo_ro | Urquhart Castle Loch Ness near Inverness |
| 15:07.23 | robo_ro | http://www.castles.org/Chatelaine/URQUHART.HTM |
| 15:07.49 | morsing | Cool |
| 15:28.56 | morsing | wethrin: verrniice? |
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| 15:31.35 | morsing | cpufreak! |
| 15:31.38 | cpufreak | \o/ |
| 15:34.35 | morsing | ping robo_ro O master of the Internet search |
| 15:49.09 | hali | cpufreak: so is henrik behaving? :) |
| 15:49.30 | cpufreak | I only talked to him briefly |
| 15:49.33 | cpufreak | seems like a nice chap |
| 15:50.43 | cpufreak | he's sitting opposite simon, who is a veteran of what 2 weeks. |
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| 15:51.34 | secretlondon | hi |
| 15:51.47 | secretlondon | wethrin: ping? |
| 15:52.38 | morsing | secretlondon! |
| 15:52.41 | morsing | secretlondon: Help |
| 15:52.47 | morsing | secretlondon: Are you coming tonight? |
| 15:53.08 | morsing | cpufreak: No I sit opposit Clive |
| 15:53.21 | secretlondon | morsing: yes |
| 15:53.39 | morsing | :) |
| 15:53.39 | morsing | Thanks |
| 15:53.43 | morsing | About 6-6:30? |
| 15:53.54 | secretlondon | morsing: I have no credit on my phone and I dodn't know what he wants me to do - am I supposed to just move it, or dopes he want me to halt, reconfigure etc |
| 15:54.03 | secretlondon | morsing: ok, where? |
| 15:54.11 | morsing | secretlondon: Don't know tbh |
| 15:54.19 | morsing | I thought he would stop it |
| 15:54.26 | morsing | Telehouse |
| 15:54.36 | morsing | http://www.telehouse.net/uk.asp |
| 15:54.44 | secretlondon | morsing: am I just physically moving it then? |
| 15:55.45 | morsing | Yes |
| 15:55.50 | morsing | While I watch :) |
| 15:56.31 | secretlondon | :) |
| 15:57.39 | antiphase | I though slavery was outlawed |
| 16:00.01 | murb | antiphase: it isn't slavery if you are doing it for fun! |
| 16:00.30 | secretlondon | well I'll be outside at 6.30 then? feel free to text me on my mobile but I can't reply (no credit and no money) |
| 16:00.37 | morsing | Ok |
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| 16:13.12 | morsing | Provito! |
| 16:15.43 | wethrin | secretlondon: PONG? |
| 16:15.54 | wethrin | secretlondon: Just help moving |
| 16:16.07 | antiphase | Pegs |
| 16:16.18 | wethrin | morsing: Can you give me a call when you're at Telehouse, and I'll shut down hades |
| 16:16.22 | morsing | Yes |
| 16:16.41 | wethrin | secretlondon: Do you know how to get to Telehouse from East India DLR? |
| 16:16.44 | wethrin | morsing: Thanks! |
| 16:18.31 | secretlondon | wethrin: have a2z and map |
| 16:18.53 | secretlondon | wethrin: but have used all credit on phone so can't call you, in net cafe for another 30 mins |
| 16:20.40 | wethrin | secretlondon: Right. |
| 16:20.49 | wethrin | Telehouse is on Coriander Avenue |
| 16:21.16 | secretlondon | nod |
| 16:21.29 | wethrin | Turn right out of East India, go around and along the pond, and eventually it'll be somewhere off to your left |
| 16:21.56 | eyore | joy: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/live/articles/news/news.html?in_article_id=428948&in_page_id=1770 |
| 16:22.31 | secretlondon | wethrin: i have a map |
| 16:22.41 | wethrin | yay! |
| 16:23.19 | wethrin | Hrm. They've not provided me with DNS servers. |
| 16:25.30 | antiphase | DNS is overrated |
| 16:25.57 | morsing | wethrin: Leaving now |
| 16:26.05 | morsing | Hope I don't get lost/killed |
| 16:26.30 | eyore | antiphase: very true, sites load quicker if you just type in the ip address. |
| 16:26.34 | secretlondon | morsing: what time? |
| 16:26.47 | eyore | antiphase: unless they use virtual name based serving :) |
| 16:26.51 | secretlondon | and where exactly shall we meet? |
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| 16:28.16 | morsing | secretlondon: Well, I'm leaving work now. No idea how long it takes to get there |
| 16:28.25 | secretlondon | I'm presuming 6.30pm outside the entrance |
| 16:28.46 | morsing | Yes, I'll run down a few times if I'm early |
| 16:28.55 | wethrin | morsing: Good luck! |
| 16:29.16 | morsing | Thanks |
| 16:29.31 | secretlondon | wehtrin: do telehouse need my name or anything? |
| 16:29.57 | wethrin | I've asked Mark to authorise you to go in, so probably yes |
| 16:30.25 | secretlondon | wethrin: which is the company? |
| 16:30.30 | wethrin | Exonetric |
| 16:30.47 | wethrin | Nigel Hardy is dealing with letting you in |
| 16:31.01 | secretlondon | ok |
| 16:31.24 | wethrin | There's a reception area which might be better to meet in rather than outside |
| 16:31.40 | secretlondon | ok |
| 16:32.16 | antiphase | That's if they'll let you in without your birth certificate and a signed letter from your unborn children |
| 16:32.19 | secretlondon | i have 16 mins left here, I have my mobile with me so I can be contacted by text message, but can't reply |
| 16:33.47 | wethrin | I'll let Henrik know to meet you in the reception, then? |
| 16:33.55 | secretlondon | ok |
| 16:34.30 | wethrin | There's a bit of a bodge job on one of the hard drive power connectors, BTW. So be gentle with the machine :) |
| 16:34.51 | secretlondon | kk |
| 16:35.02 | secretlondon | what is it - ultra 5 or something? |
| 16:35.15 | wethrin | Don't think there's really anything else of note about it. Other than when plugging the serial console in, make sure none of the exposed bits of wire are touching |
| 16:35.19 | wethrin | It's a Netra T1 |
| 16:35.22 | wethrin | 1U rackmount Sun |
| 16:35.29 | psnl | secretlondon: thanks |
| 16:35.57 | secretlondon | psnl: ? |
| 16:35.59 | wethrin | It's got 2 SCA bays, however, and I've got a 68-pin hard drive in there |
| 16:36.09 | wethrin | So needed to bodge a power connector |
| 16:36.28 | secretlondon | k |
| 16:36.35 | secretlondon | where are we moving it to? |
| 16:36.46 | wethrin | Redbus, I think. Go in the car : |
| 16:36.47 | wethrin | :) |
| 16:37.10 | secretlondon | ok |
| 16:37.18 | wethrin | 227 Marsh Wall, E14 9SD |
| 16:37.19 | psnl | secretlondon: I have a account on hades |
| 16:37.22 | wethrin | Sovereign House |
| 16:37.58 | wethrin | And South Quay is the closest DLR stop to there |
| 16:38.16 | wethrin | http://interhouse.net/datacentre/locations/london3.htm |
| 16:38.37 | secretlondon | psnl: i'm confused. what have i done with hades? |
| 16:38.41 | wethrin | You're moving it |
| 16:38.58 | secretlondon | ah! |
| 16:39.44 | secretlondon | and do i have a name there? |
| 16:39.57 | wethrin | I think they're expecting you :) |
| 16:40.04 | secretlondon | kk |
| 16:40.21 | wethrin | As long as you turn up with Henrik, you'll be fine |
| 16:40.50 | secretlondon | k |
| 16:41.17 | wethrin | Um. So...should I tell morsing you'll meet him in reception? |
| 16:41.21 | secretlondon | yes |
| 16:41.28 | secretlondon | as i said |
| 16:41.33 | secretlondon | now 6 mins left |
| 16:41.37 | wethrin | Roight |
| 16:42.29 | wethrin | Don't think there's anything else about the machine, then. As long as it gets connected to a serial console, it'll be fine |
| 16:42.56 | secretlondon | ok |
| 16:44.03 | secretlondon | 4 min |
| 16:45.22 | wethrin | Have fun in noisy machine rooms! |
| 16:45.46 | secretlondon | :D |
| 16:46.35 | secretlondon | feel free to text me if you have further instructions |
| 16:46.39 | secretlondon | 1 min now |
| 16:46.50 | wethrin | will do! |
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| 16:48.17 | dick_turpi1 | Hide your watches and wallets |
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| 16:50.22 | dick_turpin | Thats better |
| 16:50.53 | dick_turpin | boudiccas: Whats for tea? |
| 16:53.09 | boudiccas | corned beef hash |
| 16:54.00 | dick_turpin | boudiccas: Cor lubbly, do you do it with baked beans? |
| 16:54.13 | boudiccas | no, toamtoes today |
| 16:54.19 | boudiccas | *tomatoes |
| 16:54.49 | dick_turpin | boudiccas: Corned beef hash with BB and mash yum |
| 16:55.18 | boudiccas | no corned beef with tomatoes and rice |
| 16:56.08 | dick_turpin | boudiccas: euw the tomatoes will stain the rice |
| 16:56.32 | boudiccas | dick_turpin; thats not a problem :o) |
| 16:58.11 | dick_turpin | boudiccas: I myself will be having Caviar to start then pheasant with a nice chablis |
| 16:58.45 | boudiccas | dick_turpin; in your dreams :-) more like baked beans on toast :-)))) |
| 16:59.33 | dick_turpin | boudiccas: Sorry did you say something I was just having a nice dream |
| 16:59.46 | boudiccas | dick_turpin; lol |
| 17:01.00 | dick_turpin | boudiccas: two ticks just putting to bed another robbery |
| 17:01.22 | boudiccas | dick_turpin; be back later, its teatime |
| 17:01.53 | dick_turpin | boudiccas: S'OK I'm going home in 30 mins |
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| 17:16.06 | wethrin | There's a surprise :) |
| 17:16.09 | wethrin | Where are you? |
| 17:16.35 | morsing | A4 |
| 17:16.45 | morsing | 33 miles to go?! |
| 17:17.15 | wethrin | You've still got an hour |
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| 17:19.50 | wethrin | morsing: I'll turn hades off when I leave work in a few minutes. And I'll be home around 7.30 - I guess you probably won't have it up in the rack by then |
| 17:20.48 | morsing | ok |
| 17:22.29 | wethrin | Specially if it's going on yours and you want to change hard disks :) |
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| 17:26.24 | morsing | 32.9 miles |
| 17:27.14 | wethrin | You're making progress! |
| 17:27.21 | wethrin | At this rate, you'll be there by 9 :) |
| 17:27.45 | morsing | Nice |
| 17:27.50 | morsing | Beer |
| 17:27.55 | wethrin | not while driving! |
| 17:28.06 | catalyst | lies |
| 17:28.30 | wethrin | Ahh... |
| 17:28.39 | wethrin | Some of the A4 is closed due to an accident |
| 17:28.53 | morsing | Great |
| 17:28.58 | antiphase | Not a good time to be on the A4 tbh |
| 17:29.17 | morsing | I'm hungry |
| 17:29.24 | wethrin | "A4 Greater London - Great West Road closed eastbound between the Thornbury Road junction and the Osterley Road junction in Isleworth, because of an accident" |
| 17:29.38 | wethrin | Are you near Chiswick? |
| 17:30.14 | morsing | Isleworth? |
| 17:30.26 | morsing | Passing Hounslow |
| 17:31.08 | wethrin | Yeah. It's just past Hounslow |
| 17:31.16 | wethrin | So once you get past it, you should be okayish |
| 17:31.48 | morsing | Why does my satnav take me on the A406? |
| 17:32.02 | wethrin | It's the circular road |
| 17:32.10 | wethrin | So I presume it'll avoid greater london |
| 17:33.12 | morsing | Ok, changed it's preferences and it's now 26.2 miles |
| 17:33.31 | wethrin | You're suddenly much closer! |
| 17:33.37 | morsing | :) |
| 17:33.42 | wethrin | Is it clever enough to route around blockages? |
| 17:33.55 | morsing | No |
| 17:34.01 | wethrin | Oh |
| 17:34.10 | morsing | But if I turn off it will recalculate |
| 17:34.42 | wethrin | Ahhha. Cunning. |
| 17:36.49 | wethrin | Well, good luck! |
| 17:36.54 | wethrin | again :) |
| 17:37.05 | morsing | :) |
| 17:37.15 | wethrin | And give a call when it's plugged in and connected to the serial console :) |
| 17:37.25 | wethrin | They'd damn well better connect it :) |
| 17:38.32 | wethrin | And with that, I'm off to the pub. Speak to you later! |
| 17:43.42 | morsing | ~/me sees blue flashing lights |
| 17:45.46 | rhowe | I can find 5 different quad GigE cards, but no quad 100Mbit cards |
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| 20:27.31 | boudiccas | http://www.newportharbor.us/computerworks.htm |
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| 22:00.12 | JAV | hi |
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| 22:04.35 | wethrin | sproink |
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| 23:19.41 | Leeds | Juergen is such a friendly fellow... |
| 23:21.28 | JAV | nice night! |
