| 00:01.34 | z00dax | (spam)++ |
| 00:02.09 | cpufreak | hali: send it to me then |
| 00:02.26 | z00dax | cpufreak: you hiring ? |
| 00:02.44 | cpufreak | we're always hiring |
| 00:02.58 | z00dax | got something for 1day/week |
| 00:03.03 | cpufreak | no, just permanent |
| 00:03.08 | z00dax | damn |
| 00:03.21 | z00dax | permanent 1day/week worksforme |
| 00:03.26 | hali | cpufreak: you guys have too many swedes already ;) |
| 00:03.39 | hali | cpufreak: sounds like you guyd have a fun infrastructure though |
| 00:03.50 | hali | had a fallow out with my boss over drinks tonight,.. :( |
| 00:03.57 | hali | falling* |
| 00:04.05 | hali | (im still drunkish) |
| 00:04.29 | hali | and im too cool |
| 00:04.40 | hali | noone wants oracle and j2ee app admins :( |
| 00:05.06 | cpufreak | hali: lol |
| 00:05.11 | cpufreak | we do |
| 00:05.17 | Leeds | hali: was your boss drunk as well? |
| 00:05.26 | cpufreak | andrew.mulholland@betfair.com |
| 00:05.28 | cpufreak | is my email |
| 00:07.12 | z00dax | betfair ? |
| 00:07.18 | cpufreak | yes |
| 00:07.29 | cpufreak | the betting exchange |
| 00:08.10 | z00dax | some headhunter type guy from the city was after my life to go work for betfair a few months back |
| 00:08.19 | z00dax | well, about 6 months back |
| 00:08.59 | hali | Leeds: very much so |
| 00:09.05 | hali | all very drunk :P |
| 00:09.28 | cpufreak | yeh recruitment agents do that |
| 00:09.29 | hali | they're wasting my time and im wasting their money |
| 00:13.57 | hali | my god that felt good |
| 00:20.27 | hali | now the big question is if i should flassh the firmware in our fas960 or not :P |
| 00:21.05 | hali | since i can't spell 'flash' i think thats a bad idea |
| 00:24.38 | hali | ontap ng is pretty cool though |
| 00:24.48 | hali | anyway, i think im going to bed instead |
| 00:32.21 | gw280 | MOO |
| 01:13.17 | rhowe | Leeds: I'm coming to HK! |
| 01:13.58 | rhowe | Leeds: I should be in HK on the 3rd of April - you'd better get a job soon so that you're still in HK then |
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| 01:39.57 | Leeds | working on it, man... |
| 01:40.40 | Leeds | hmm... the weekend before that one is the sevens |
| 01:40.50 | rhowe | Leeds: I'll be in Chongqing then |
| 01:41.15 | Leeds | I intend to be drunk in HK then :-) |
| 01:44.44 | rhowe | heh |
| 01:45.47 | Leeds | do you know the sevens, you faux-local person? |
| 01:46.01 | rhowe | well I'm going to Thailand on the 22nd March, then HK on the 29th (but hopefully straight up to Chongqing), then back to HK hopefully on the 3rd April and then back to London on the 6th |
| 01:46.09 | rhowe | Leeds: I know of them, but have never seen the matches |
| 01:48.52 | Leeds | it's not so much about the rugby as the event as a whole... |
| 01:49.12 | rhowe | I heard the rugby was good though |
| 01:49.42 | Leeds | it is... but... the event is better |
| 01:54.13 | Leeds | anyway, time to go to the office |
| 01:55.11 | rhowe | o.O |
| 01:55.12 | rhowe | Now *THAT* is a big lorry |
| 01:55.13 | rhowe | http://siksai.co.uk/~rhowe/biglorry.jpg |
| 01:56.38 | Leeds | indeed it is... *gone* |
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| 04:23.22 | morsing | 'morning |
| 04:42.08 | Leeds | nope |
| 04:42.35 | morsing | How are you? |
| 04:44.20 | Leeds | tired, but otherwise good |
| 04:44.53 | Leeds | you? |
| 04:46.10 | morsing | Crappy - depressed |
| 04:47.07 | Leeds | any particular reason, or just the usual? |
| 04:48.14 | morsing | The usual being Robin and Carly? |
| 04:48.19 | Leeds | yes |
| 04:48.47 | morsing | Well, I'm generally depressed but last night they didn't exactly make it better |
| 04:49.10 | morsing | We're supposed to go to the cinema tonight be I definately don't feel like going now |
| 04:49.44 | morsing | If we go we need to talk aand get some things out in the open |
| 04:51.19 | Leeds | well, I'm going to a comedy show this evening with Annabel and a colleague of hers... I'm slightly worried because I had to persuade her that she and her colleague wouldn't miss too much of the Brit-oriented humour |
| 04:51.49 | morsing | Brit-humour? |
| 04:52.38 | Leeds | well, it's a mainly british club, with different comics each month, and this month it happens there are three Brits |
| 04:53.17 | morsing | Anyway, went for a drink with Robin and some ex-colleages last night |
| 04:53.42 | Leeds | got a very quick message from Amanda last night, after having a bit of a go at her at the weekend... just saying if I was lonely or wanted a chat, I should call her |
| 04:53.44 | morsing | When we've done this before he's *always* asked me for a take-away afterwards |
| 04:54.10 | morsing | Didn't last night. Didn't even warn me in advance so I had a chance to get something to eat |
| 04:54.41 | morsing | Phoned Carly after leaving, before he got back, but she just avoided the subject. |
| 04:54.57 | morsing | Even asked me what I was going to do for dinner |
| 04:55.59 | morsing | Robin phoned her while I was on the other phone and I could hear her whisper "Henrik's on the other phone". She *never* call me Henrik unless tere's something wrong. And why what whispering necessary? |
| 04:56.04 | Leeds | eh... I think that's the sort of thing which you can blow up in your own head |
| 04:56.15 | morsing | You can |
| 04:56.19 | morsing | But not this one |
| 04:56.31 | morsing | They'd clearly agreed this in advance |
| 04:56.58 | morsing | He even made weird comments to me during the drinks like "Are you not getting food"? |
| 04:57.16 | morsing | It's on top of other things happening |
| 04:57.46 | morsing | Last night was the final straw |
| 04:57.53 | morsing | I need to discuss it with them |
| 04:58.10 | morsing | Do you think that's stupid? |
| 04:59.15 | morsing | I know he got a take-away on the way home. He lives on my route home. He could have told me in advance, he knew I was expecting diner. |
| 04:59.19 | Leeds | don't think it's stupid, no |
| 04:59.24 | morsing | Good :) |
| 05:00.30 | morsing | It's just on top of other things like yesterday their shower broke, which he told me, when I offered to help him replace it (he said he was going to do it himself) he just made some weird excuse. |
| 05:00.47 | morsing | We always used to do DIY and other stuff together |
| 05:00.55 | morsing | Now we never do anymore |
| 05:01.14 | morsing | The confusing thing is he always says conflicting things to me |
| 05:01.32 | Leeds | well... how much of it is the couple thing? |
| 05:01.36 | morsing | Like I'm always welcome and I can come around anytime I want |
| 05:01.41 | morsing | The couple? |
| 05:02.00 | morsing | What couple? |
| 05:02.49 | Leeds | them couple |
| 05:04.45 | Leeds | they are a couple? |
| 05:05.46 | morsing | They've been married for seven years. That's not the problem |
| 05:06.09 | morsing | Seriously, we're talking about swallowing a take-away in the evening then me leaving |
| 05:06.33 | morsing | We've known each other for over two years and used to see each other all the time |
| 05:07.09 | morsing | We also haven't seen each other Sunday and won't see each other this weekend (because Robin won't have me help with the shower) |
| 05:07.25 | morsing | Yesterday had nothing to do with the couply thing |
| 05:07.31 | morsing | s/couply/couple/ |
| 05:10.31 | morsing | After I spoke to Carly on the phone, where he called on the landline, I texted her a :( which she never responded to |
| 05:10.54 | Leeds | honestly, it seems like you're just beating yourself up over this... sounds to me like it's time to move on - accept that something has changed, you might be able to force the issue, but probably can't/shouldn't |
| 05:11.18 | morsing | But they're constantly telling me that nothings wrong |
| 05:11.42 | morsing | They constantly say things like they want to go on holiday with me |
| 05:12.00 | Leeds | yeah, women are constantly telling me I'm cute, adorable, funny and that there |
| 05:12.02 | morsing | Robin says "Oh ... We want to go everywhere with you" |
| 05:12.15 | Leeds | there's a great girl out there for me... with the implication that it's not them |
| 05:12.23 | morsing | You know how me and Robin went Camping before Cristmas? |
| 05:12.42 | Leeds | yes |
| 05:13.00 | morsing | Robin really wanted to do that as some kind of bonding thing with me. We both had an absolutely great time |
| 05:13.17 | morsing | Things seem absolutely fine |
| 05:13.24 | morsing | But there's something wrong |
| 05:13.34 | morsing | He constantly emails me smalltalk |
| 05:13.49 | morsing | It's not that he doesn't want to see me/talk to me anymore |
| 05:14.38 | Leeds | but something has changed in your relationship |
| 05:15.19 | morsing | O definately |
| 05:15.31 | morsing | It changed after their holiday to Mexico |
| 05:15.39 | morsing | But it was mainly Robin at first |
| 05:16.09 | morsing | But now Carly has started seeming less and less interested in seeing me/talking to me |
| 05:16.54 | Leeds | still sounds like the couple thing to me |
| 05:16.54 | morsing | But this week, by Wednesday when I still hadn't emailed her, she emailed me asking why I was so quiet |
| 05:17.03 | morsing | It's not the couple thing |
| 05:17.26 | morsing | How's half an hour in a week where they've had nothing else on the couple thing |
| 05:18.01 | morsing | I know that the original problem with RObin was the couple thing but we used to see each other 4-5 days a week |
| 05:18.23 | morsing | Now it's barely one day a week |
| 05:18.30 | Leeds | what I mean is that it sounds like something has changed in *their* relationship with each other, which is rightly more important to them than their relationship with you |
| 05:18.44 | morsing | Ahh... No it definately hasn't :) |
| 05:18.49 | morsing | They're sound |
| 05:19.26 | Leeds | not necessarily in a bad way |
| 05:19.35 | Leeds | it could be that they got closer for some reason |
| 05:19.58 | morsing | Well, still not. They've been married for seven years and they've always been very, very happy and close |
| 05:20.07 | morsing | I think I would have noticed |
| 05:20.49 | Leeds | when did they go to Mexico? |
| 05:21.00 | morsing | july |
| 05:21.32 | morsing | We've had loads of trouble since then which makes me paranoid, but it's been a lot better since December |
| 05:22.08 | Leeds | you're always going to be looking over your shoulder unless you work out what changed, and 'fix' it |
| 05:22.39 | morsing | Yes. That's what I want to do but they always say nothing's changed |
| 05:22.45 | morsing | I can't get it out of them |
| 05:22.47 | Leeds | honestly, based on my extensive experience, the trick is to take it easy and move on... find a new best friend |
| 05:22.58 | morsing | I've tried ignoring it but it doesn't help |
| 05:23.14 | morsing | I'll never in my life again find friend like them |
| 05:23.58 | morsing | Me and Robin really hit it off when we met and I still think it's worth working on, and so does he |
| 05:27.02 | morsing | What do you think? |
| 05:27.16 | morsing | Anyway, shower time |
| 05:30.14 | Leeds | what I think is that you and he obviously see things differently, and it's bothering you a lot more than it's bothering him |
| 05:35.59 | morsing | Yes, I think we've started seeing things differently. It's bothering me more than them because I'm lonely and have no family, they're not. |
| 05:36.11 | Leeds | exactly my point |
| 05:36.39 | morsing | I also, and have ever since their holiday, thought that his main problem is feeling left out because me and Carly are (used to be) really close |
| 05:37.06 | morsing | Why Carly sudden;y seems indifferent about me I don't know |
| 05:37.27 | Leeds | has she ever seen you naked? |
| 05:37.33 | morsing | Well she doesn't, she always tells me I'm a really good friend and we're often on the phone chatting |
| 05:38.04 | morsing | She's seen most of my body except my most private part :) Why do you ask? |
| 05:38.37 | Leeds | have you seen her naked? |
| 05:38.52 | morsing | Not really, why? |
| 05:39.12 | morsing | Why do you ask these questions? |
| 05:39.19 | Leeds | that's the problem then |
| 05:39.23 | morsing | Right... |
| 05:42.32 | morsing | Anyway, going to work, still depressed |
| 05:43.26 | Leeds | fuck him, fuck her, get new friend who don't mess you around |
| 06:45.43 | morsing | Can't |
| 06:46.17 | morsing | Will people stop saying that. Some things are worth working on instead of just giving up |
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| 07:14.06 | Leeds | morsing: there comes a point where you have to walk away, to admit things have changed and aren't going back how they were |
| 07:23.29 | morsing | And jump in front of a train? |
| 07:27.51 | Leeds | no, move on |
| 07:28.01 | Leeds | less pain, not more |
| 07:35.10 | morsing | It won't be less pain that way. The train way makes it quicker |
| 07:35.26 | Leeds | uh, no |
| 07:35.53 | morsing | Right... |
| 07:48.59 | Leeds | I do like being able to transfer money between my local bank accounts in two different currencies and getting commercial market rates with no commission, rather than retail rates :-) |
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| 08:44.29 | morsing | SlayerXP! |
| 08:45.45 | SlayerXP | l |
| 08:45.47 | SlayerXP | o |
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| 09:18.37 | Leeds | goibhniu! |
| 09:19.13 | goibhniu | Leeds! |
| 09:20.35 | Leeds | how is London? |
| 09:21.13 | morsing | Crap |
| 09:21.15 | morsing | goibhniu! |
| 09:21.25 | goibhniu | morsing! |
| 09:21.35 | goibhniu | yeah, it's crap |
| 09:21.56 | goibhniu | Leeds: must feel good to have a full week of work under your belt now? |
| 09:21.59 | murb | moin |
| 09:22.04 | Leeds | goibhniu: not bad... :-) |
| 09:22.14 | Leeds | do wish zope didn't exist though |
| 09:22.51 | morsing | I have a friend in HK who works for UBS |
| 09:22.53 | Leeds | apart from the weather, what's wrong with it? |
| 09:22.57 | goibhniu | murb! |
| 09:23.08 | morsing | urb! |
| 09:23.15 | goibhniu | it smells |
| 09:23.20 | Leeds | morsing: this isn't the guy I met a couple of years back, is it? |
| 09:23.31 | morsing | I don't think so? |
| 09:23.35 | morsing | Andrew Chow |
| 09:24.02 | Leeds | nope... |
| 09:24.05 | Leeds | is he a techie? |
| 09:25.36 | morsing | Yes, very much |
| 09:25.44 | Leeds | how long has he been here/there? |
| 09:26.02 | morsing | Been with UBS for 2 years |
| 09:26.10 | morsing | But in London some of the time |
| 09:26.12 | goibhniu | Leeds: zope ain't sooo bad |
| 09:27.01 | Leeds | and is there any particular reason why, through my months of trying to find work, and repeated pleas for contacts, you've never mentioned him before? even after I mentioned I was in touch with someone at UBS? (I'm reasonably sure I mentioned that here) |
| 09:27.10 | morsing | He's even on this site: |
| 09:27.11 | morsing | http://www.websphereusergroup.org.uk/jlp_wug_WASUG/Members |
| 09:27.40 | morsing | Leeds: I only learned yesterday that he'd transferred to HK! |
| 09:27.46 | goibhniu | pizza slicers! http://www.art.uiuc.edu/grads/mfa_04/flood.html |
| 09:27.50 | Leeds | goibhniu: zope itself is pretty evil... what's more evil is the fac that people who think they know what they're doing were let loose on roundup and tried to make one particular tracker into zope... |
| 09:28.00 | morsing | You've never mentioned UBS to me |
| 09:28.04 | Leeds | morsing: so not that close a friend then... |
| 09:28.21 | morsing | Leeds: I get the occasional "Do you want to go for a coffee" email |
| 09:28.33 | Leeds | so not that close a friend then... |
| 09:28.50 | morsing | Actually, he emailed me a few months ago asking if I wanted to go for a drink so he was definately in London then |
| 09:29.03 | morsing | I'll email him and ask |
| 09:30.05 | Leeds | ask him if he knows Alpesh Patel |
| 09:33.11 | morsing | Minesh Pitamber? |
| 09:34.53 | morsing | Leeds: Wow he was quick to respond |
| 09:35.35 | Leeds | it's late on Friday afternoon :-) |
| 09:35.38 | SlayerXP | i went to air cadets with an alpesh patel |
| 09:35.38 | morsing | Hmm... |
| 09:36.14 | Leeds | morsing: so, does he know him? |
| 09:38.02 | Leeds | morsing: you knew on November 30th that I was in touch with someone at UBS |
| 09:46.34 | goibhniu | postal experiments http://www.improbable.com/airchives/paperair/volume6/v6i4/postal-6-4.html |
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| 09:47.09 | robo_ro | lo |
| 09:48.40 | Leeds | robo_ro! |
| 09:54.58 | morsing | Leeds: Where's your CV? |
| 09:55.36 | Leeds | http://wanderingjew.co.uk/static/RichardCohen.pdf |
| 09:58.15 | morsing | Oh btw: He knows Alpesh Patel. Why do you ask? |
| 09:58.40 | Leeds | because he's the guy I met from UBS a couple of months back, who has my CV |
| 10:01.48 | morsing | Nhttp://wanderingjew.co.uk/static/RichardCohen.pdf |
| 10:01.49 | morsing | ice |
| 10:02.09 | morsing | Crap!!http://wanderingjew.co.uk/static/RichardCohen.pdf |
| 10:02.10 | morsing | !! |
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| 10:26.20 | morsing | FYI, Alpesh is head of IT, Asia in UBS. |
| 10:26.29 | morsing | Leeds: Where did you meet him? |
| 10:26.42 | Leeds | yes, I'm aware of that... |
| 10:26.51 | Leeds | I met him at an 'over-30s' social/networking event |
| 10:27.46 | morsing | Leeds: My friend can't help you if Alpesh can't |
| 10:28.05 | Leeds | last thing I heard from Alpesh was a wait'n'see |
| 10:28.16 | Leeds | before Christmas... should ping him again at some point |
| 10:28.53 | Leeds | he has now had my CV for 6 weeks |
| 10:37.28 | morsing | Nice |
| 10:47.24 | wethrin | Rar |
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| 10:57.51 | morsing | keithlard_! |
| 10:57.59 | keithlard_ | what up |
| 10:58.03 | morsing | ... |
| 11:03.39 | wethrin | peeps! |
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| 11:16.40 | morsing | Leeds! |
| 11:17.00 | wethrin | ~karma morsing |
| 11:17.00 | ibot | morsing has neutral karma |
| 11:17.04 | wethrin | ibot morsing++ |
| 11:17.16 | morsing | Doesn't work |
| 11:17.19 | wethrin | Bah |
| 11:17.35 | andrew___ | bah to you |
| 11:17.40 | wethrin | Andrew! |
| 11:17.44 | andrew___ | grrr |
| 11:17.49 | wethrin | With a large number of underscores |
| 11:17.50 | andrew___ | I am in a bad mood |
| 11:17.58 | morsing | andrew___! |
| 11:18.04 | wethrin | Have a tasty beer for lunch |
| 11:18.14 | andrew___ | I must get round to chaning my nick. It calims that andrew is reserved by andrewblack so I cant use it |
| 11:18.23 | andrew___ | But I have forgotten the password. |
| 11:18.38 | wethrin | You have to ask a IRC op to free it up then (#freenode) |
| 11:19.03 | andrew___ | will they believe me? |
| 11:19.58 | andrew___ | I have a hangup over passwords. I once send a register command to the channel (forgot / before the command!) |
| 11:20.03 | wethrin | Probably |
| 11:20.11 | wethrin | You shouldn't use an important password for your nickname |
| 11:20.28 | andrew___ | Indeed I didnt , but that is why I forgot it! |
| 11:20.38 | wethrin | Ahh. They should be okay, I think |
| 11:26.16 | andrew___ | waiting at home for some guys to pick up some dead monitors. Dont like waiting around ... |
| 11:27.59 | wethrin | Ah. Council disposal people? |
| 11:32.15 | Leeds | http://www.pingwales.co.uk/2007/01/11/UKFSN-Price.html |
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| 11:33.02 | morsing | catalyst! |
| 11:34.25 | catalyst | morsing! |
| 11:34.34 | catalyst | I just handed in my third year project interim report =) |
| 11:34.43 | wethrin | woo! |
| 11:35.03 | catalyst | now we wait for pubs to open |
| 11:36.30 | wethrin | Why did you hand it in so early, then? |
| 11:40.25 | catalyst | because there are 250 other people trying to do precisely the same thing |
| 11:40.30 | wethrin | Ahh |
| 11:40.33 | catalyst | and there is only so much printer paper/ink |
| 11:40.36 | wethrin | Get to the pub early, then |
| 11:40.40 | catalyst | indeed =) |
| 11:40.45 | catalyst | I intend to eat lunch there |
| 11:40.51 | wethrin | Also a good plan |
| 11:51.40 | goibhniu | ls sucks |
| 11:52.22 | wethrin | Yes. use 'echo *' |
| 11:54.06 | Leeds | time to go to comedy club! |
| 11:54.25 | wethrin | Have fun! |
| 11:54.46 | goibhniu | Leeds: stop having fun ... it's sickening |
| 11:55.44 | Leeds | ha ha ha ha! |
| 11:57.11 | gw280 | hrmm. |
| 11:57.48 | wethrin | gw280! Back in Tabland? |
| 11:57.51 | gw280 | no |
| 11:57.56 | gw280 | I was there yesterday |
| 11:57.58 | gw280 | back in London now |
| 11:58.02 | wethrin | When're you back there permanently? |
| 11:58.05 | gw280 | saturday |
| 11:58.07 | gw280 | (tomorrow) |
| 11:58.16 | wethrin | Right. Couldn't you have just stayed those extra days? |
| 11:59.15 | gw280 | no |
| 11:59.23 | gw280 | my parents need to drive all my shit up |
| 11:59.29 | gw280 | and they work during the week |
| 11:59.38 | wethrin | Ah |
| 11:59.55 | gw280 | lol, I'm apparently my wife's "favourite wife" |
| 11:59.58 | gw280 | this makes very little sense. |
| 12:00.29 | psnl | stop pissing around on facebook |
| 12:00.34 | gw280 | psnl: this isn't on facebook |
| 12:00.49 | psnl | scary |
| 12:01.52 | wethrin | "You're my wife now, Dave!" |
| 12:03.01 | gw280 | wethrin: dave? |
| 12:04.16 | wethrin | Watch the League of Gentlemen |
| 12:05.19 | gw280 | it's been a while since I watched that |
| 12:05.28 | gw280 | all I can remember is a psychopathic job centre woman |
| 12:05.48 | wethrin | Pauline |
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| 12:05.51 | wethrin | PENS! |
| 12:05.53 | gw280 | wethrin: yeah, her. |
| 12:19.25 | morsing | wethrin: I don't think we'll move on Monday... |
| 12:20.42 | wethrin | morsing: That's okay |
| 12:20.50 | wethrin | Got any response yet? |
| 12:21.54 | wethrin | eek! |
| 12:21.55 | gw280 | wethrin: "what about a point-ed stick?" |
| 12:22.25 | wethrin | With an arrow? |
| 12:23.22 | morsing | Nice |
| 12:23.30 | morsing | wethrin: They're too slow |
| 12:23.36 | morsing | I don't know what to do |
| 12:23.37 | wethrin | Who? |
| 12:23.44 | wethrin | BlueLinux? |
| 12:23.48 | morsing | Yes |
| 12:24.05 | gw280 | morsing: they're slow? |
| 12:24.08 | morsing | Yes |
| 12:24.12 | gw280 | define slow |
| 12:24.28 | morsing | Less than one email per day... |
| 12:24.40 | gw280 | morsing: oh, to support? |
| 12:24.45 | morsing | Yes |
| 12:24.49 | gw280 | morsing: hardly surprising |
| 12:24.59 | morsing | Really? Do you work there? |
| 12:24.59 | gw280 | Rob McQueen's currently on his way to Australia for LCA |
| 12:25.07 | gw280 | no, but I know all the employees |
| 12:25.13 | wethrin | What about Matt? |
| 12:25.16 | gw280 | Matt Rowen is busy with other stuff |
| 12:25.23 | gw280 | Robster doesn't appear to be around |
| 12:25.28 | gw280 | Delph I haven't seen for ages |
| 12:25.32 | wethrin | Do you see Matt often? |
| 12:25.51 | gw280 | a couple of times a term |
| 12:25.55 | gw280 | why? |
| 12:26.01 | wethrin | Prod him :) |
| 12:26.03 | gw280 | nooooooo I made wifey cry |
| 12:26.09 | gw280 | wethrin: I talk to him every day though |
| 12:26.55 | wethrin | Ahh....any chance you could prod him about morsing and my colo? We need to be moved by the end of the month |
| 12:28.09 | gw280 | meh |
| 12:28.29 | gw280 | 12:28:24 <@gw280> Rowenio: I'm being prodded with big sticks by people in my LUG re. bluelinux stuff |
| 12:28.33 | gw280 | :P |
| 12:28.40 | wethrin | :) |
| 12:28.48 | wethrin | Is that on #bluelinux? |
| 12:28.58 | gw280 | no |
| 12:29.06 | wethrin | right |
| 12:29.08 | gw280 | it's on the super secret cambridge irc server on the corpus channel |
| 12:29.18 | wethrin | Oh, is Matt a Corpuscle? |
| 12:29.22 | gw280 | yes |
| 12:29.25 | gw280 | well, he was |
| 12:29.34 | wethrin | yay! |
| 12:29.36 | wethrin | Corpuscles++ |
| 12:29.40 | gw280 | hah! |
| 12:29.50 | gw280 | cambridge corpuscles > oxford corpuscles |
| 12:29.56 | wethrin | shush |
| 12:29.58 | cpufreak | Testicles++ |
| 12:30.07 | wethrin | Oxford Corpuscles respond to their email! |
| 12:30.26 | gw280 | wethrin: cambridge corpuscles have better things to do |
| 12:30.49 | wethrin | That's just bad customer service |
| 12:30.56 | gw280 | hahahahaha |
| 12:31.08 | gw280 | this is why you need one of their phone numbers |
| 12:31.10 | gw280 | to scream at them |
| 12:32.30 | morsing | Beer |
| 12:36.34 | wethrin | indeed :) |
| 12:37.12 | wethrin | Basically need to know how much notice they need to get down to London - it'd be ideal to get server out of one datacentre, and take it to another |
| 12:38.29 | wethrin | rhowe: The half-birthday celebration is on Monday |
| 12:38.36 | morsing | rhowe! |
| 12:41.18 | murb | wethrin: you're moving your machine? |
| 12:41.24 | wethrin | murb: yes |
| 12:43.21 | wethrin | ! |
| 12:44.09 | z00dax | wethrin: hi |
| 12:44.12 | wethrin | Ahh! |
| 13:48.12 | goibhniu | nice one ... cylob doesn't just make great music, he does it by programming Supercollider http://www.cylob.com/ ... yay! for that type of thing! |
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| 13:58.37 | morsing | gw280! |
| 14:06.13 | boudiccas | george, what does the 280 stand for in your nick? |
| 14:08.04 | boudiccas | ibot wake gw280 |
| 14:08.05 | ibot | ACTION throws a barrel-full of ice water on gw280 and shouts "GOOD MORNING!!!!" |
| 14:15.31 | gw280 | boudiccas: it's my university username |
| 14:15.52 | boudiccas | ah, ty |
| 14:20.57 | gw280 | wethrin: robster's apparently agreed |
| 14:21.01 | gw280 | wethrin: to the evening you suggested |
| 14:29.53 | gw280 | wethrin: I've been slapped with a 2160 pound college bill. |
| 14:30.17 | murb | gw280: why? |
| 14:30.29 | murb | and wsa it unexpected? |
| 14:30.32 | gw280 | tuition fees, accommodation fees, food bill |
| 14:30.37 | gw280 | electricity usage |
| 14:30.59 | psnl | wethrin: is hades being moved then? |
| 14:34.39 | wethrin | It will be, yes |
| 14:34.49 | wethrin | gw280: Excellent. What evening was it? |
| 14:34.55 | wethrin | It's morsing who needs to be told :) |
| 14:34.58 | gw280 | wethrin: monday |
| 14:35.23 | wethrin | ibot wake morsing |
| 14:35.31 | ibot | ACTION throws a barrel-full of ice water on morsing and shouts "GOOD MORNING!!!!" |
| 14:35.49 | psnl | wethrin: cool |
| 14:36.32 | wethrin | which means other things have to be agreed on too |
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| 14:38.16 | morsing | dick_turpin! |
| 14:38.53 | wethrin | Ahhha |
| 14:38.56 | wethrin | A morsing |
| 14:39.12 | dick_turpin | morsing: :-) |
| 14:42.05 | wethrin | ! |
| 14:42.17 | psnl | gw280: do you feel that you have matured at uni? |
| 14:42.27 | boudiccas | dick_turpin; have you started folding@home yet? |
| 14:42.33 | gw280 | psnl: no |
| 14:42.36 | gw280 | psnl: don't be stupid. |
| 14:42.39 | dick_turpin | 2 secs |
| 14:42.53 | boudiccas | tick....tock...tick...tock |
| 14:42.56 | psnl | oh good |
| 14:43.25 | gw280 | I HATE CRAMP |
| 14:43.26 | boudiccas | dick_turpin; well, have you? |
| 14:43.47 | dick_turpin | boudiccas: I got your mail this morning so its sitting on my box at home, will look at it later although I may have a a bottle of scotch by then |
| 14:44.36 | boudiccas | dick_turpin; fair nouhg. I'm just getting ready to go out on the town tonight, but got to go to the bank first and deposit a cheque |
| 14:45.19 | boudiccas | dick_turpin; one bottle for one night? thats a lot to be getting through for one person |
| 14:45.40 | dick_turpin | boudiccas: Ha, typical woman going out at 8pm needs to start getting ready at 2.45pm |
| 14:46.13 | boudiccas | dick_turpin; one bottle for one night? thats a lot to be getting through for one person. And i don't want to be late for my local LUG meeting |
| 14:46.28 | boudiccas | seeing as i've organised this end of it |
| 14:47.13 | dick_turpin | boudiccas: I'm ashamed to admit I can do 3/4 of a bottle, true I'm blathered but I can still just about do it |
| 14:47.54 | wethrin | But is it good whisky? |
| 14:48.06 | boudiccas | good grief! your poor kidneys! i hope its not regular? |
| 14:49.21 | antiphase | It's more of a liver thing tbh |
| 14:49.45 | boudiccas | whatever! :) |
| 14:50.10 | dick_turpin | wethrin: The best Bushmills |
| 14:50.27 | boudiccas | good old george, true to previous form, violent |
| 14:50.47 | dick_turpin | boudiccas: I sold my kidneys and liver on ebay |
| 14:51.20 | boudiccas | i'm actually at a loss for words! |
| 14:51.41 | boudiccas | better put it in your diary too |
| 14:52.00 | boudiccas | gw280; :PPPPPPPPPPPPP |
| 14:52.05 | gw280 | boudiccas: ? |
| 14:52.15 | boudiccas | gw280; yes george |
| 14:52.20 | gw280 | boudiccas: ? |
| 14:52.32 | boudiccas | gw280; yes george |
| 14:52.33 | wethrin | dick_turpin: That's not Scotch, then |
| 14:52.45 | gw280 | boudiccas: ? |
| 14:52.47 | boudiccas | gw280; yes george |
| 14:52.51 | wethrin | But it can be a nice whiskey |
| 14:53.12 | dick_turpin | wethrin: No I know but it was the quickest to type while dealing with a Muppet |
| 14:53.14 | boudiccas | gw280; yes george? |
| 14:53.20 | wethrin | :) |
| 14:53.24 | gw280 | boudiccas: ? |
| 14:53.28 | boudiccas | gw280; yes george? |
| 14:54.23 | dick_turpin | wethrin Actually I shall be partaking of a few bottles of 'Double Drop' I think |
| 14:54.30 | wethrin | beer? |
| 14:54.42 | dick_turpin | wethrin: Ale |
| 14:54.47 | boudiccas | yes, in the society rooms tonight |
| 14:55.09 | boudiccas | wethrin; dick_turpin if you're both there i'll buy you a pint each |
| 14:55.21 | wethrin | Mmm.....beer |
| 14:55.31 | wethrin | I won't be there |
| 14:55.34 | wethrin | Wrong end of the country |
| 14:56.00 | boudiccas | just sarf of the river, one hour train journey away |
| 14:56.12 | boudiccas | still leaves dick_turpin |
| 14:56.15 | gw280 | I HATE MY RIGHT LEG |
| 14:56.17 | dick_turpin | wethrin even tho I've lived in the Midlands since 86 I cant stand cold, gassy bear I like room temp and real ale if poss |
| 14:56.38 | dick_turpin | gw280: Cut it off then, I have a buyer on ebay |
| 14:56.52 | wethrin | boudiccas: Yes, wrong end of the *country*, not city |
| 14:56.53 | gw280 | dick_turpin: that might hurt more than cramp |
| 14:56.55 | boudiccas | gw280; if any part of your body should offen you, cut it off! |
| 14:57.20 | wethrin | dick_turpin: Surely you mean cellar temp, as all proper beer is served at? |
| 14:57.23 | dick_turpin | gw280: Na I have the perfect thing |
| 14:57.51 | gw280 | apparently I'm an unhealthy bastard |
| 14:57.56 | dick_turpin | wethrin: Um youre gonna cringe, warm sticky bear is my fav |
| 14:57.57 | gw280 | cycling the 2 miles from the CL to Corpus did this to me. |
| 14:58.28 | dick_turpin | boudiccas: why are you leaving me? |
| 14:58.29 | wethrin | dick_turpin: Eww. If it gets too warm, it tastes a bit off. (serving just right)++ |
| 14:59.13 | boudiccas | cos ultimately i'm ending up in the pub, and i've got to get ready |
| 14:59.19 | dick_turpin | wethrin: I used to like Stag bitter but they stopped making it as the well for the water dried up |
| 14:59.26 | boudiccas | and you won't come to the pub with me |
| 14:59.38 | gw280 | I LOVE DEEP HEAT |
| 14:59.42 | gw280 | DEEP HEAT IS MY FRIEND |
| 14:59.42 | wethrin | I rather like the beer that comes from the Houston Brewery |
| 14:59.52 | morsing | Nice |
| 15:00.05 | dick_turpin | boudiccas: I'd love to come with you but its too far |
| 15:00.18 | boudiccas | gw280; you're sure thats deep heat you've married and not deep-throat? |
| 15:00.35 | gw280 | boudiccas: actually, it's a random medic I've married who called me a wuss when I was whining about my leg :P |
| 15:00.36 | dick_turpin | gw280: Don't do like I did when I was in hospital after a pretty bad car crash |
| 15:01.42 | boudiccas | dick_turpin; well, go on with the anecdote |
| 15:02.02 | dick_turpin | gw280: Asked me mummy to bring some in thought I'd rubbed it on me leg rubbed it on me nadgers instead |
| 15:02.19 | boudiccas | ooh, bet you felt a fool |
| 15:02.30 | gw280 | boudiccas: I bet he didn't feel much for the next day :P |
| 15:02.34 | boudiccas | balls on fire! |
| 15:02.53 | gw280 | how the hell can you mistake your leg for that? |
| 15:02.59 | dick_turpin | boudiccas: worse than that I was in traction tied down and burning :'( |
| 15:03.01 | gw280 | er, or the other way round |
| 15:03.22 | boudiccas | luverly jubbly :O)))))) |
| 15:03.27 | dick_turpin | gw280: I dont want to brag ;-) |
| 15:03.30 | morsing | Cinnamon |
| 15:03.33 | gw280 | dick_turpin: idiot |
| 15:03.52 | boudiccas | ah well. i'm off out, see you later byeeeeee |
| 15:04.03 | dick_turpin | gw280: Seriuos the doctor told not to get too amourus I cant afford the blood loss |
| 15:04.15 | gw280 | dick_turpin: idiot |
| 15:04.56 | dick_turpin | boudiccas: Bye bye, have fun |
| 15:05.17 | *** part/#gllug robo_ro (n=rowan@82-70-146-30.dsl.in-addr.zen.co.uk) |
| 15:05.35 | gw280 | MY LEG LOSES |
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| 15:08.27 | dick_turpin | morsing: What you doin? |
| 15:09.18 | morsing | dick_turpin: Huh? |
| 15:09.20 | morsing | catalyst! |
| 15:09.33 | wethrin | morsing! |
| 15:09.37 | dick_turpin | morsing: Just being nosey |
| 15:09.44 | catalyst | morsing! |
| 15:09.45 | morsing | dick_turpin: I'm extremely bored and there's something wrong with my watch |
| 15:09.53 | morsing | wethrin: Thanks |
| 15:10.09 | dick_turpin | morsing: Yup its got you attached to it :-) |
| 15:10.13 | morsing | ... |
| 15:10.14 | catalyst | ouch |
| 15:10.32 | wethrin | Take your at off! |
| 15:10.35 | dick_turpin | morsing: :-) |
| 15:10.39 | catalyst | XD |
| 15:10.53 | gw280 | ARGH COCK I'VE DONE NO WORK |
| 15:10.57 | gw280 | AND I GO BACK TOMORROW |
| 15:10.59 | gw280 | COCK COCK COCK |
| 15:11.09 | wethrin | Ha ha |
| 15:11.23 | catalyst | XD |
| 15:11.23 | dick_turpin | gw280: Shake a leg then |
| 15:11.43 | gw280 | and I have exams on monday |
| 15:11.46 | catalyst | today I handed in my interim project report |
| 15:11.57 | catalyst | the rest of the day is for relaxation =) |
| 15:14.48 | morsing | Nice |
| 15:15.50 | wethrin | Monday? Loads of time! |
| 15:16.56 | dick_turpin | goibhniu: ! |
| 15:17.50 | SlayerXP | okay, can I make george go away again? |
| 15:18.03 | gw280 | cock, I have county cards to shoot :'( |
| 15:18.13 | wethrin | SlayerXP: If you want |
| 15:18.37 | wethrin | Grr. Spam-- |
| 15:18.55 | dick_turpin | wethrin It wasnt me honest :-/ |
| 15:23.21 | wethrin | Surew? |
| 15:23.34 | SlayerXP | wethrin: what's this "spam" of which you speak? |
| 15:23.52 | wethrin | SlayerXP: It's stuff I get through email addresses whose domains aren't controlled by me |
| 15:24.09 | SlayerXP | sounds icky |
| 15:24.10 | dick_turpin | wethrin: What they trying to sell? |
| 15:27.01 | wethrin | SlayerXP: 'tis a bit |
| 15:27.04 | wethrin | dick_turpin: Stocks |
| 15:27.56 | dick_turpin | wethrin I'm wating for trillions of pounds to come into my bank account theres this African cheif I'm helping |
| 15:28.20 | wethrin | What could possibly go wrong? |
| 15:29.53 | goibhniu | dick_turpin! |
| 15:29.56 | dick_turpin | wethrin: speaking of Internet marketing ;) as you may be aware I run a 'selling' mailing list. I've just had a good example of why I'm always saying "Dealing with a Muppet" |
| 15:30.17 | dick_turpin | goibhniu: Baby where you bin? |
| 15:30.25 | wethrin | ahhh.....don't do that then |
| 15:30.47 | dick_turpin | wethrin: Don't you want to know why? |
| 15:30.48 | goibhniu | dick_turpin: around |
| 15:31.26 | dick_turpin | goibhniu: I missed you :-* |
| 15:31.47 | wethrin | dick_turpin: Oh, go on then. Do tell... |
| 15:31.55 | goibhniu | dick_turpin: ah jeez, that's the nicest thing anyone has ever said to me! |
| 15:33.39 | dick_turpin | wethrin: goibhniu will like this as well I'm running a campaign called "Office in your Pocket" now I've put loads of info on the flier done links to our site with more info and this Pri.... has sent an email asking for quote; "More info please" %$£&@ |
| 15:33.59 | wethrin | More info than the flyer? |
| 15:34.58 | dick_turpin | wethrin: Yep, I had another wan.... ask this morning "Whats FDD and SFF?" tosser (Thats an IT guy by the way) |
| 15:35.18 | wethrin | Fun :) |
| 15:35.29 | dick_turpin | wethrin: Muppets! |
| 15:36.49 | wethrin | INdeed |
| 15:36.49 | dick_turpin | goibhniu: I'm still on beryl 1.3 do you know if opensuse is gonna get 1.4? I'm sure I read somewhere they're only gonna role them for Ubuntu |
| 15:38.12 | goibhniu | dick_turpin: sorry, no idea how suse handles that crack, the gf has ubuntu and it seems to still be on 1.2!? |
| 15:38.25 | goibhniu | maybe they changed repos recently or something |
| 15:38.53 | dick_turpin | wethrin: You don't know the half of it, my fav is when they try and blag knowledge "Yeah mate its gotta have lots of ROMS" |
| 15:39.06 | goibhniu | that whole window grouping thing looks very nice ... still a little buggy though |
| 15:39.23 | wethrin | argh :( |
| 15:40.03 | dick_turpin | goibhniu: I also read the 'Looking Glass' is on the up |
| 15:40.18 | dick_turpin | that |
| 15:40.24 | goibhniu | dick_turpin: my brother used to be in the same game ... he often made the biggest killing on cables ... selling usb cables for £40 sometimes iirc |
| 15:40.53 | goibhniu | dick_turpin: yeah, me too, dave yates was saying it was very nice |
| 15:41.25 | dick_turpin | goibhniu: Do you want to hear my best blag? |
| 15:41.50 | goibhniu | do you know if looking glass windows wobble? |
| 15:42.42 | tripitaka | ugh. 'In 1945, a shephard boy watching his wards near the hilltop town of Nag Hammadi threw a stone into a remote cave. He heard a strange noise, enetered the cave, and in an ancient broken urn he discovered a faint copy of sendmail.cf'. |
| 15:42.56 | wethrin | :-) |
| 15:43.02 | dick_turpin | goibhniu: I don't know much about it but I think its more akin to what I'd prefer in that it does that pushing to the back/bring forward thingy I talked to you about a little while ago |
| 15:43.27 | tripitaka | does anyone know how to tell sendmail to ignore bad source addresses? I'm sending from a local system user, and getting 'Real domain name required for sender address' |
| 15:44.04 | goibhniu | wethrin: yeah, he'd sell a printer or something for a great price and then ask if they wanted some cables to go with it ... naturally most people don't know an usb cable from an rs232 ... so getting the "special high quality" one was recommended |
| 15:44.10 | wethrin | Ask on-list. You'll get many responses saying "Use Exim/postfix", but Tethys might give you a useful pointer |
| 15:44.22 | wethrin | "It makes your colours better!" |
| 15:45.08 | dick_turpin | wethrin: You don't know the half of it thats what happend to me the other day |
| 15:45.23 | wethrin | I've read that |
| 15:45.35 | goibhniu | wethrin: pretty much the same approach that apple takes but on a smaller more personal scale |
| 15:46.08 | wethrin | Not really |
| 15:46.20 | wethrin | I've not seen Apple sell just cables |
| 15:46.34 | goibhniu | e.g. sure the macbook has tv out |
| 15:46.38 | dick_turpin | goibhniu: I sold a server to a guy on the understanding he 'Gav-it-back' to me when his company purchased new machines :-) |
| 15:47.46 | goibhniu | dick_turpin: slick, did you rapidly go into liquidatio |
| 15:47.50 | wethrin | The s-video out on my Powerbook works really well |
| 15:48.09 | dick_turpin | goibhniu: Nope I promptly sold it again :-) |
| 15:48.10 | goibhniu | wethrin: don't you need some honky cable though? |
| 15:48.22 | wethrin | goibhniu: No - it's bog-standard S-video |
| 15:48.36 | wethrin | Like you get on camcorders |
| 15:48.49 | wethrin | And my PB came with an s-video to composite converter |
| 15:48.58 | goibhniu | wethrin: maybe they "upgraded" the ports on the macbooks then |
| 15:49.04 | wethrin | So I could just run an RCA jack |
| 15:49.07 | dick_turpin | Gotta make a brew the minions are playing up |
| 15:49.08 | wethrin | You're not thinking of HDMI, are you? |
| 15:49.35 | goibhniu | I heard a mac user bitching about it before ... was ~£60 for the cable he needed and it didn't come with it |
| 15:52.21 | morsing | Check it! |
| 15:53.24 | dick_turpin | goibhniu: Don't get it wrong you'll get flamed to bits I generally do |
| 15:53.38 | wethrin | It should've coem with a mini-DVI to big DVI cable |
| 15:54.34 | goibhniu | dick_turpin: I know, it's a dangerous business making statements |
| 15:55.33 | dick_turpin | goibhniu: Hm nuff said |
| 15:55.35 | goibhniu | wethrin: damn it .. that's one less minus point for apple ... grrr... makes my blood boil |
| 15:56.23 | wethrin | Heh |
| 15:56.31 | goibhniu | I even heard yesterday that they pay some samba developers ... that's another one |
| 15:56.42 | tripitaka | if anyone ever sees that sendmail error, the magic is in the hosts file. There is a difference between "127.0.0.1 realhostname realhostname.realdoaminname localhost" and "127.0.0.1 localhost realhostname realhostname.realdoaminname" |
| 15:56.47 | wethrin | They pay the way of a few people |
| 15:56.54 | morsing | Wow |
| 15:57.01 | wethrin | morsing!! |
| 15:57.15 | goibhniu | morsing: what is it? |
| 15:58.47 | goibhniu | I heard jeremy ellison (? samba guy) bitching about apple previously, but I heard him yesterday talking like they weren't evil or something ... it's all very confusing for me right now |
| 15:58.54 | wethrin | Allison |
| 16:01.43 | tripitaka | in the absence of money, many FOSS projects seem to bun exclusively on drama. |
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| 16:03.55 | Leeds | mmm... dramatic buns :-) |
| 16:04.14 | dick_turpin | Leeds: Did you kick me off again? |
| 16:04.36 | Leeds | dick_turpin: not this time |
| 16:05.09 | dick_turpin | Leeds: S'funny went to make a brew and it all went pear shaped |
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| 16:06.34 | dick_turpin | how does sendmail know our mailserver when I've not put any configuration in? |
| 16:07.16 | tripitaka | MX records? |
| 16:07.37 | wethrin | dick_turpin: Don't Do That Then |
| 16:08.14 | dick_turpin | tripitaka: OK thats interesting as I see MX4 in the logs |
| 16:08.53 | dick_turpin | how does it pick that up? I have no skill in this area |
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| 16:09.33 | tripitaka | try asking your DNS server - `dig mx yourdomain.com` |
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| 16:10.00 | murb | or better still dig any yourdomain.co.uk |
| 16:10.26 | tripitaka | eg. dig mx google.com will give you a list of the Mail eXchange records for that domain, ie. the machines to which user@domain.com email should be sent |
| 16:10.44 | dick_turpin | tripitaka: Don't get me wrong it works but its died a couple of times and our so called web guru insists I must have configured it |
| 16:10.58 | murb | tripitaka: you are forgetting a records. |
| 16:11.06 | tripitaka | the number after the MX is the value - lowest ones get tried first |
| 16:11.13 | murb | many domains are without mxes but still do email. |
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| 16:11.34 | tripitaka | murb: really? how? |
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| 16:11.41 | SlayerXP | murb: only until I find a place to stack the bodies. |
| 16:11.54 | SlayerXP | tripitaka: some mail server will fall back to using A records. |
| 16:11.57 | tripitaka | if your zone has no MX record, where does mail go? The first A? |
| 16:12.02 | murb | tripitaka: you deliver to an a record if there is no mx |
| 16:12.14 | SlayerXP | murb: again, only until I find a place to stack the bodies. |
| 16:12.14 | murb | tripitaka: or you RTFRFC |
| 16:12.40 | dick_turpin | guys you've lost me |
| 16:12.47 | murb | SlayerXP: you could buy a disused cremitorium. |
| 16:12.58 | murb | and fire it up, so to speak. |
| 16:13.19 | Leeds | dick_turpin: you know DNS? |
| 16:13.38 | dick_turpin | Leeds: sort of |
| 16:13.51 | murb | dick_turpin: what is his first name? |
| 16:13.56 | tripitaka | heh - pick an A record, any A record |
| 16:14.02 | dick_turpin | 2 secs |
| 16:14.19 | Leeds | dick_turpin: DNS maps names to numbers - maps google.com to 1.2.3.4, right? |
| 16:14.47 | dick_turpin | just doing a deal for solaris9 server |
| 16:15.05 | dick_turpin | I'm back |
| 16:15.28 | Leeds | dick_turpin: do pay attention |
| 16:16.14 | tripitaka | how about: a domain is a surname. In a family, you can have many people with the same surname. One of them is in charge of receiving mail. |
| 16:18.08 | dick_turpin | heres the situation, I have a CentOS webserver It has two NICs 1 in 1out its I suppose on our network as I can talk to it via putty it has fixed IP's I send via sendmail but I've never configured our mailserver yet they go just fine? |
| 16:18.43 | antiphase | What's that in English? |
| 16:18.45 | Leeds | y'all should check http://www.gapingvoid.com/Moveable_Type/archives/003639.html |
| 16:19.58 | wethrin | CentOS will have some default sendmail configuration |
| 16:20.45 | dick_turpin | wethrin: I've had a good rummage but cant find any referance to the mailserver other than is in the maillog |
| 16:22.22 | wethrin | hm |
| 16:22.46 | dick_turpin | wethrin: Its not a problem I'm just trying to learn |
| 16:31.23 | wethrin | hmm......APC Masterswitch for £50 |
| 16:33.49 | tripitaka | disk_turpin - it's quite possible that your web server is doing a DNS lookup to find where it should send mail, and bypassing your mail server |
| 16:34.41 | tripitaka | if you putty into a linux box and do `date |mail me@gmail.com`, the linux box will do a dns lookup to find the MX record for gmail.com, and deliver the mail there directly |
| 16:35.37 | tripitaka | if you want it to send mail via your existing mail server, you might set up your mail server as a smart proxy in your sendmail / postfix config |
| 16:35.52 | dick_turpin | tripitaka: I dont think its that as they can see the mails going through the mail server, they are bad in respect they come from localhost 127.0.0.1 (I think thats right) and are relayed to mx4.blahblah.co.uk |
| 16:37.16 | tripitaka | curious. How do you know they are coming from the web server? |
| 16:38.34 | dick_turpin | tripitaka: I run a mailing list from the site (Strictly cosher) I use the app which just uses a PHP mail script and sends them via sendmail |
| 16:39.49 | tripitaka | curious. |
| 16:40.06 | antiphase | It sounds perfectly rational to me |
| 16:40.14 | dick_turpin | would you like me to send you a mail from command line? |
| 16:40.33 | antiphase | default sendmail installs are likely to be set up to allow relaying from localhost |
| 16:41.08 | antiphase | Or local delivery, which appears to be from localhost |
| 16:41.15 | dick_turpin | antiphase: Yes but how does it know 9e.g.) box two is the mail server? |
| 16:41.26 | antiphase | DNS I expect ;) |
| 16:41.40 | tripitaka | antiphase - the oddness seems to be that sendmail on the linux box is relaying mail through dick's mail server, without dick configuring the mail server as a default mail proxy |
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| 16:42.18 | Leeds | tarragon! |
| 16:42.27 | tarragon | Leeds, !! |
| 16:42.42 | tarragon | ibot seen wethrin |
| 16:43.10 | ibot | wethrin is currently on #gllug. Has said a total of 350 messages. Is idling for 11m 47s, last said: 'hmm......APC Masterswitch for £50'. |
| 16:43.12 | antiphase | Ha! |
| 16:43.12 | Leeds | tarragon: he last spoke about 12 minutes ago |
| 16:43.43 | tarragon | Idle? typical good for nothing student! |
| 16:44.05 | dick_turpin | tripitaka: You've hit the nail on the head. The mail server is good old M$ by the way |
| 16:44.41 | Leeds | ah, it's nice to see BASIC in a mainstream Hollywood comedy |
| 16:45.20 | wethrin | tarragon? |
| 16:45.33 | Leeds | http://www.crypticide.com/dropsafe/articles/humour/post20070112151304.html - heh :-) |
| 16:45.35 | tarragon | Hi Dan! |
| 16:46.08 | wethrin | Hi John! |
| 16:49.51 | Leeds | tarragon: come to Sydney! :-) |
| 16:49.53 | wethrin | Lovely. |
| 16:49.55 | wethrin | Come to Durham! |
| 16:52.10 | Leeds | now, see, that's something which impresses me... I must have seen Airplane 2 at least 30 or 40 times, but I just spotted a brand-new joke I'd never noticed before |
| 16:52.44 | Leeds | there's a briefcase with a bomb in it... covered with those old-fashioned style travel stickers... |
| 16:53.03 | Leeds | the stickers are for Nagasaki, Hiroshima, Dresden and Pearl Harbour :-) |
| 16:54.22 | wethrin | Hum. There are 143 people on the Social mailing list |
| 16:54.25 | wethrin | And hardly any of them turn up |
| 16:54.50 | Leeds | wethrin: sorry... logistics, you know |
| 16:55.01 | wethrin | You have an excuse |
| 16:56.09 | murb | i've neverbeen on htis mailing list and have occastionally turned up, what does that prove? |
| 16:56.21 | catalyst | wethrin: I do, occasionally XD |
| 16:56.39 | wethrin | Rarely |
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| 17:36.38 | phearless | grr |
| 17:36.40 | phearless | I did |
| 17:36.42 | phearless | dd if=/dev/sda of=/dev/sdb |
| 17:36.58 | phearless | to my new sdb, to use it as RAID1 with sda |
| 17:37.04 | phearless | and now I can not use sdb !!! |
| 17:37.39 | phearless | shit happens. |
| 17:37.47 | wethrin | Why would you do that? Let your RAID system take care of it |
| 17:38.13 | phearless | I thought that it would be easier |
| 17:38.25 | phearless | and now the disk seems to have vanished ! |
| 17:38.33 | wethrin | Um. Vanished? |
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| 17:39.03 | phearless | I could not access to the disk |
| 17:39.06 | phearless | so I rebooted |
| 17:39.14 | phearless | and now the disk has disappeard from fdisk -l |
| 17:39.25 | wethrin | Does it come up in dmesg? |
| 17:39.52 | Leeds | does the BIOS see it? |
| 17:40.28 | phearless | I will have a look in the BIOS |
| 17:40.37 | Nermal | boop |
| 17:40.57 | wethrin | Ahoy there, Nermal |
| 17:41.05 | Nermal | ahoy indeed |
| 17:41.44 | Leeds | morning Nermal |
| 17:41.50 | Nermal | lo Leeds |
| 17:41.57 | Nermal | when do you lot usually meet ? |
| 17:42.03 | Nermal | the website is kind of vague |
| 17:42.14 | Nermal | and does mr whittaker frequent them ? |
| 17:44.21 | phearless | http://rafb.net/p/VYEQiz83.html |
| 17:44.31 | phearless | I do not see the hard drive in dmesg (cf link) |
| 17:44.37 | phearless | I will have a look in the BIOS ... |
| 17:46.30 | phearless | yes it is the BIOS |
| 17:46.57 | wethrin | I've not seen Roger at a Gllug meet |
| 17:47.14 | wethrin | We meet whenever some speakers have been organised :) |
| 17:47.55 | wethrin | Hmm |
| 17:48.43 | Nermal | you don't just meet in pubs to point out cctv cameras and talk about our erosion of liberties ? |
| 17:49.00 | Nermal | I suppose that was the feature of having alan cox in your local lug :| |
| 17:49.29 | wethrin | It's a public place! If you want privacy, drink at home |
| 17:49.35 | wethrin | Or invite people to drink at home :) |
| 17:50.02 | wethrin | No, there's normally speaker meetings, then we go to the pub to discuss geeky things |
| 17:50.07 | Nermal | ah |
| 17:50.09 | Nermal | hmm |
| 17:50.19 | Leeds | Nermal: are you hiding from Roger? |
| 17:50.27 | wethrin | There's the Social list, which is more pub-based |
| 17:50.28 | Nermal | no - far from it |
| 17:50.31 | Leeds | or looking for him? :-) |
| 17:50.34 | Nermal | I just wondered if he frequented the meetings |
| 17:50.45 | phearless | ok the ahrd drive is back |
| 17:50.47 | phearless | hard* |
| 17:50.53 | phearless | sorry for the annoyance :) |
| 17:50.58 | phearless | weird computers ! |
| 17:51.29 | wethrin | phearless: Did you power off and on? |
| 17:52.17 | phearless | yes |
| 17:52.19 | phearless | 2 times |
| 17:52.21 | phearless | and it's back |
| 17:52.22 | phearless | strange |
| 17:53.32 | wethrin | indeed |
| 17:53.47 | wethrin | Is the first disk marked as part of a RAID array already? |
| 17:55.32 | Leeds | hmm... should I be worried that my packing list has 21 items in the 'electronics' section, 8 in 'toiletries', and 2 in 'clothes'? |
| 17:56.34 | wethrin | No |
| 17:56.57 | Nermal | depends where you are going |
| 17:57.10 | Nermal | a date? yes. A tech convention? maybe |
| 17:57.13 | Leeds | Nermal: Sydney, for linux.cong.au |
| 17:57.16 | Leeds | uh, conf |
| 17:57.19 | Nermal | oh.. |
| 17:57.22 | Nermal | then no |
| 17:57.29 | goibhniu | gnome-video-thumnailer is a goat |
| 17:57.43 | Nermal | it's a bit of a cock yes |
| 18:00.40 | goibhniu | I keep shooting it in the head and it crawls back to me nibbling at my ankles |
| 18:01.32 | goibhniu | I've disabled it in gconf-editor but it doesn't care |
| 18:01.54 | goibhniu | 72% cpu |
| 18:09.39 | antiphase | Gnome+KDE=0. KDE=0. What is the value of Gnome? [5 marks] |
| 18:10.10 | trousers_ | antiphase: It would have to be 0... |
| 18:10.42 | trousers_ | Gnome+KDE=0 i.e Gnome=-KDE i.e. Gnome=-0=0 |
| 18:12.00 | trousers_ | antiphase: What's that all about, anyway? |
| 18:12.30 | antiphase | The answer to all problems is to use neither |
| 18:12.46 | goibhniu | trousers_: are you settling down for another weekend of homework now? |
| 18:13.06 | trousers_ | goibhniu: Not much homework this weekend, I got myself some nice books to read :) |
| 18:13.37 | trousers_ | goibhniu: Some stuff on Fermat's Last Theorem, Calculus, a Terry Pratchett and a book on algorithms :D |
| 18:14.18 | wethrin | And wondered when Pratchett ever was a Compsci |
| 18:15.09 | goibhniu | trousers_: sweet, I dunno about Pratchett but the other ones sound like fun |
| 18:15.43 | wethrin | Calculus is rarely fun :) |
| 18:15.53 | murb | which reminds me i need to visit the penn bookshop |
| 18:15.59 | trousers_ | wethrin: It is quite interesting :) |
| 18:16.14 | murb | s/penn/& cottage/ |
| 18:18.20 | goibhniu | trousers_: any progress with the robots? |
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| 18:58.06 | psnl | wethrin: he isn't, its clear in the books |
| 19:09.37 | trousers_ | goibhniu: Not recently, been busy :) |
| 19:09.59 | trousers_ | goibhniu: Linux club is confirmed at school, though :D |
| 19:10.48 | Nermal | gah |
| 19:10.59 | Nermal | you should have a duel with chess club |
| 19:11.22 | Nermal | when you shout "charge!" all the geeks will plug their laptops in |
| 19:21.42 | wethrin | *groan* |
| 19:24.55 | Nermal | :) |
| 19:24.56 | gw280 | SAUSAGES |
| 19:26.15 | Nermal | meatsticks |
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| 20:33.30 | adb | seen wethrin |
| 20:33.39 | adb | ibot seen wethrin |
| 20:34.50 | ibot | wethrin is currently on #gllug. Has said a total of 376 messages. Is idling for 1h 13m 8s, last said: '*groan*'. |
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| 23:33.15 | adminjs | zaurus anyone? |
| 23:33.35 | z00dax | mooooooooooooooo |
| 23:33.38 | Nermal | hmm ? |
| 23:33.45 | Nermal | iphone! OLOLOLOO |
| 23:33.49 | Nermal | etcetc |
| 23:33.53 | Nermal | nokia n800 :) |
| 23:34.08 | z00dax | it is nice.. the nokia n800 |
| 23:34.47 | wethrin | nah. Have a ruby port instead. |
| 23:34.50 | wethrin | Far tastier |
| 23:35.26 | z00dax | why ? its got python already |
| 23:35.47 | wethrin | Mmm....port |
| 23:37.15 | adminjs | iphone? |
| 23:39.44 | gw280 | the N800 can't make phone calls. |
| 23:39.58 | murb | gw280: not even with a sipclient? |
| 23:40.00 | adminjs | did i wake some sleeping dogs? |
| 23:40.04 | murb | gw280: no microphone?? |
| 23:40.07 | gw280 | murb: it can do VoIP |
| 23:40.14 | gw280 | murb: but it can't do standard GSM calls |
| 23:40.24 | murb | gw280: well neither can my sipphone. |
| 23:40.33 | murb | or my dect phone |
| 23:40.35 | murb | etc |
| 23:40.47 | murb | gw280: so have gsm phone with bluetooth in pocket? |
| 23:40.51 | murb | or doesn't it do bluetooth? |
| 23:40.51 | gw280 | murb: yes, but it can't make GSM calls which is fairly important to most people :P |
| 23:41.09 | murb | gw280: i thought it was an organiser not a phone. |
| 23:41.09 | gw280 | I fail to see the point in having a second phone just to make phone calls |
| 23:41.16 | murb | just because it is made by nokia.. |
| 23:41.20 | gw280 | it's a "mobile internet tablet" |
| 23:41.22 | murb | gw280: it isn't a phone. |
| 23:41.38 | murb | if they were affordable i might buy one to play with. |
| 23:41.50 | gw280 | I've just had a threatening wall post |
| 23:41.54 | gw280 | "We'll see about that mister... xx" |
| 23:41.57 | gw280 | I think I should be worried. |
| 23:42.34 | z00dax | murb: how much are they for ? |
| 23:43.28 | murb | z00dax: no idea, but i think i'd like some more windows first. |
| 23:44.01 | z00dax | windoes ? |
| 23:44.50 | adminjs | the tablet is not worth it |
| 23:48.02 | adminjs | the tablet hasn't got a root shell |
| 23:48.53 | z00dax | there are workarounds |
| 23:56.59 | adminjs | the nokia is not really open |
| 23:58.02 | z00dax | no ? not even with all the code being available and simulator as well ? |
| 23:59.06 | adminjs | i saw that thingie 2y ago ant i just walked away |
