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| 02:06.18 | trousers_ | Marvellous, new Shuttle ordered, Xen-ification, here I come :) |
| 02:06.53 | clive-h | heh |
| 02:06.59 | clive-h | xen is cool |
| 02:07.26 | trousers_ | What kernel do you run it under? |
| 02:07.44 | clive-h | it should even run xp pro on my new box |
| 02:08.45 | clive-h | 2.6.17 on the existing box |
| 02:08.52 | trousers_ | How well does it run DomU? |
| 02:09.11 | trousers_ | clive-h: I meant, built yourself, or...? |
| 02:09.33 | clive-h | nah it's a stock fc6 xen kernel |
| 02:09.38 | trousers_ | Ah, right |
| 02:10.09 | clive-h | i could build a custom one but ... |
| 02:10.41 | trousers_ | I'm assuming it's as simple as ticking the Xen box in menuconfig :P |
| 02:11.01 | clive-h | xen isn't that useful on a non-ht p4 |
| 02:11.01 | trousers_ | Using the xen-sources for Gentoo |
| 02:11.12 | trousers_ | I'm going AMD |
| 02:11.24 | clive-h | presumably you can do it using portage |
| 02:11.40 | trousers_ | yeah, you just unmask the xen-sources package :) |
| 02:11.52 | clive-h | my new box is an amd athlon 3800+ 64bit x2 |
| 02:12.14 | clive-h | aye that's what i'd do on gentoo |
| 02:12.26 | trousers_ | How do you set processes to use a certain core? |
| 02:12.47 | clive-h | as yet no idea |
| 02:13.08 | trousers_ | Do they automatically "spill over"? |
| 02:13.10 | clive-h | i don't have linux on that box yet |
| 02:13.17 | clive-h | just bought it |
| 02:13.21 | trousers_ | Fair enough :) |
| 02:13.40 | clive-h | it's sunday's project setting it up |
| 02:14.07 | clive-h | to run xp pro,fc6,suse probably, solaris |
| 02:14.14 | trousers_ | Still need to get the processor and RAM |
| 02:14.18 | clive-h | and if i'm lucky os x |
| 02:14.25 | trousers_ | It can run that many simultaneously? |
| 02:14.43 | clive-h | it can multi-boot stuff |
| 02:14.59 | trousers_ | With no serious performance issues, I meant |
| 02:15.02 | clive-h | my first dual-core box |
| 02:15.07 | trousers_ | Same :) |
| 02:15.28 | trousers_ | I like to play with different things, but I really can't be bothered to keep hard rebooting :P |
| 02:15.32 | clive-h | i'll see how it fares running oses simulataneously |
| 02:15.54 | trousers_ | Do you know if Xen allows direct hardware access, or if it kind of masks it like VMware? |
| 02:16.12 | clive-h | it's a hypervisor |
| 02:16.27 | clive-h | it intercepts calls to the hardware |
| 02:16.29 | trousers_ | I don't know what that is :S *Wikipedia* |
| 02:16.58 | clive-h | you don't get access to bare metal |
| 02:17.14 | clive-h | xen does that for you |
| 02:17.30 | trousers_ | So how will graphics on say, Windows games, fare? |
| 02:17.44 | clive-h | no idea |
| 02:17.54 | clive-h | i'm not a gamer |
| 02:17.59 | trousers_ | Hmm |
| 02:18.19 | clive-h | and i don't run windows except under extreme duress |
| 02:19.03 | trousers_ | Hmm |
| 02:19.20 | clive-h | you could boot xp under xen |
| 02:19.25 | trousers_ | I've wanted to try the BSDs for a while too, but not dedicating a whole PC to it |
| 02:19.29 | clive-h | and then run linux |
| 02:19.54 | clive-h | i presume you'd get better xp peformance |
| 02:20.10 | clive-h | i just partition disks |
| 02:20.13 | trousers_ | Hmm |
| 02:20.20 | trousers_ | But that still means reboots |
| 02:20.37 | clive-h | this laptop can boot xp,fc5,solaris of freebsd |
| 02:20.51 | trousers_ | How do you choose between them? |
| 02:20.59 | clive-h | grb |
| 02:21.02 | clive-h | grub |
| 02:21.03 | trousers_ | And how can you stand rebooting so often? |
| 02:21.09 | clive-h | the bootloader |
| 02:21.13 | clive-h | i don't |
| 02:21.22 | trousers_ | Not physically :P But how do you make the choice of what to boot? |
| 02:21.29 | clive-h | i use linux for almost everything |
| 02:21.49 | clive-h | and have done for around 12 years |
| 02:21.51 | trousers_ | Exactly, if I were to dual boot, I'd boot into one and never use the other |
| 02:22.01 | clive-h | you select it on the menu |
| 02:22.12 | trousers_ | I must be hitting 6 months for proper Linux usage soon >.< |
| 02:22.32 | clive-h | i leave xp on in case i need it |
| 02:22.39 | trousers_ | Why would you need it? |
| 02:22.55 | clive-h | and the other oses cos i need em sometimes |
| 02:23.31 | clive-h | if i went to a site that was only xp? |
| 02:23.44 | clive-h | it's a laptop |
| 02:24.54 | clive-h | personally i'm happy and productive running linux or any other unix |
| 02:24.57 | trousers_ | Hmm, I guess |
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| 02:41.48 | clive-h | wb |
| 02:42.02 | Leeds | morning all |
| 02:42.11 | clive-h | hi leeds |
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| 03:15.38 | clive-h | with xen you can boot any xen setups you want |
| 08:03.21 | morsing | Really? |
| 08:41.08 | morsing | Leeds? |
| 08:44.52 | morsing | ibot wake Leeds |
| 09:44.05 | morsing | LEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEDS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! |
| 09:45.29 | Leeds | . |
| 09:51.25 | morsing | Leeds: Oh - I thought you were dead... |
| 09:52.10 | Leeds | nope, just exhausted |
| 10:08.02 | morsing | Nice |
| 10:12.11 | sabinef72 | morning |
| 10:13.37 | morsing | sabinef72! |
| 10:13.44 | sabinef72 | morsing |
| 10:13.47 | morsing | ? |
| 10:13.54 | morsing | What's wrong? |
| 10:14.20 | morsing | :( |
| 10:25.15 | Leeds | wow, might get down to 10C tonight! |
| 10:26.49 | Leeds | on the other hand, the BBC are suggesting a high of 36C for Sydney tomorrow... |
| 10:40.35 | morsing | Leeds: Why's Sabine upset? |
| 10:41.19 | Leeds | morsing: because you've been ignoring her? |
| 10:44.41 | morsing | WTF is UKL in currency? |
| 10:44.50 | morsing | Leeds: I don't think I have? |
| 10:45.01 | sabinef72 | me upset ? |
| 10:45.04 | morsing | Yes? |
| 10:45.17 | morsing | Arghhh |
| 10:45.34 | morsing | sabinef72: Carly's got a cold so I'm not allowed to pull her nose :( |
| 10:46.03 | sabinef72 | am I your victim today ? |
| 10:46.38 | Leeds | morsing: it could be GBP... L (lira) is an old-fashioned way of writing pounds... |
| 10:46.58 | morsing | sabinef72: Yes :) |
| 10:47.12 | morsing | Leeds: Extremely weird |
| 10:47.15 | Leeds | sabinef72: are you upset, or just bruised? |
| 10:47.47 | morsing | Leeds: On Avis' website, hiring a car in California, half the rates are in USD and half in UKL |
| 10:48.02 | morsing | And the UKL rates are too different to actually be USD |
| 10:48.12 | sabinef72 | I'm just harrassing by morsing ...... |
| 10:48.14 | sabinef72 | ah ah |
| 10:48.21 | morsing | They could actually be GBP |
| 10:48.41 | Leeds | if they're about 2:1 they'll be GBP |
| 10:49.05 | morsing | Well, obviously they're different cars so can compare that easily |
| 10:49.15 | morsing | ibot change 360 USD to GBP |
| 10:49.32 | morsing | Nice and cheap :) |
| 10:49.39 | morsing | Cadillac for a week |
| 10:49.41 | Leeds | it's about 2:1 nowadays... well, 1.95 or so |
| 10:52.48 | morsing | ibot change 273 USD to GBP |
| 10:53.57 | Leeds | so £20 a day... before extras |
| 10:54.22 | morsing | YEs |
| 10:54.49 | morsing | GPS is another £20 a day so I might just buy maps for my own |
| 10:55.13 | morsing | Huh? Sorry, that's £6 /day |
| 10:55.37 | Leeds | plus taxes... insurance... digital radio fees... fuel fees... |
| 10:55.45 | morsing | Errmmm |
| 10:55.54 | morsing | Taxes? |
| 10:56.00 | morsing | Digatla radio?! |
| 10:56.11 | morsing | Avis comes with a basic insurance |
| 10:56.27 | morsing | I think my credit card covers some as well |
| 10:56.49 | morsing | Leeds: Please let us not start a discussion about hiring cars like we did 4 years ago |
| 10:57.01 | morsing | I'm very experienced on the xubject |
| 10:57.05 | morsing | subject |
| 10:57.14 | Leeds | sorry, sat radio |
| 10:57.31 | morsing | Still don't know what you're talking about |
| 10:57.37 | morsing | I'll bring my CB radio |
| 10:58.35 | morsing | ibot change 448 USD to GBP |
| 11:17.53 | Leeds | the subject line from some recent spam: "And Steve Jobs will enter Macworld floating on a hovercraft." |
| 11:26.17 | morsing | Nice |
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| 12:59.17 | morsing | flips_and_rails! |
| 13:18.37 | Leeds | ibot change 20 aud to hkd |
| 13:21.51 | Leeds | that being the fee you have to pay to get an Aussie visa online - which I don't have to pay because they last 12 months from issue and I still have one from last year |
| 13:52.04 | morsing | :) |
| 13:52.08 | morsing | Leeds: I love you |
| 13:52.42 | Leeds | thanks - I love you too, baby |
| 13:54.43 | morsing | Fancy a quick one? |
| 13:54.59 | Leeds | nope - really *must* get in the shower, or I'll be late for tonight's party |
| 14:03.25 | morsing | Check it! |
| 14:11.00 | Leeds | hmm... dressed and in Lan Kwai Fong by half-past? |
| 14:11.12 | morsing | Serong? |
| 14:12.16 | Leeds | no, Lan Kwai Fong |
| 14:12.16 | Leeds | LKF, as it's know by the cool kids |
| 14:12.28 | Leeds | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lan_Kwai_Fong |
| 14:15.04 | Leeds | uh... when did Google maps get street-level support for HK??? |
| 14:15.33 | Leeds | even if it is mainly in Chinese :-) |
| 15:34.57 | morsing | Leeds! |
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| 16:50.18 | morsing | IAmAI! |
| 16:50.27 | IAmAI | morsing! |
| 16:50.33 | IAmAI | Wassup? |
| 16:51.23 | morsing | WETHRIN! |
| 16:51.27 | morsing | ibot wake wethrin |
| 16:52.12 | morsing | ~seen wethrin |
| 16:52.38 | ibot | wethrin <i=dankolb@82.138.249.149> was last seen on IRC in channel #gllug, 20h 23m 47s ago, saying: ':-)'. |
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| 16:59.31 | morsing | PussInBoots! |
| 17:03.31 | IAmAI | morsing: Why do you shout at people and then never form a conversation with them when they reply? |
| 17:04.02 | morsing | Id' left my keyboard. Sorry. |
| 17:04.25 | morsing | And shouting would be uppercase, so I'm not shouting |
| 17:04.34 | IAmAI | Fair enough. |
| 17:04.49 | morsing | What do you want? |
| 17:04.57 | morsing | :) |
| 17:05.14 | IAmAI | Oh, nothing. Just wondering how you are :) |
| 17:05.31 | morsing | I'm sort of good. Depression at a low. |
| 17:05.35 | morsing | How are you? |
| 17:06.07 | IAmAI | I'm good. Back home from uni. |
| 17:06.15 | morsing | Cambridge? |
| 17:06.23 | IAmAI | Nope. Aberystwyth. |
| 17:07.13 | morsing | Hdgetasiem? Where's that? |
| 17:07.23 | IAmAI | Huh? |
| 17:07.33 | morsing | Did I mis-spell that? |
| 17:07.36 | morsing | :) |
| 17:07.39 | IAmAI | Er... 'Aberystwyth' is in Wales. |
| 17:07.50 | IAmAI | You can copy and paste?! |
| 17:08.05 | IAmAI | :P |
| 17:08.32 | morsing | Nice |
| 17:08.40 | morsing | What's your degree? |
| 17:08.48 | IAmAI | Computer Science... of course! :P |
| 17:09.26 | goibhniu | morsing! |
| 17:09.26 | morsing | goibhniu! |
| 17:09.27 | goibhniu | how did your hot date go yesterday? |
| 17:09.53 | morsing | Who're you asking? |
| 17:10.02 | morsing | goibhniu: Geir is not here |
| 17:10.29 | goibhniu | oh ... did you see a movie in the end? |
| 17:13.27 | morsing | Oh, no. That's for next Friday :) Last King of Scotland |
| 17:13.33 | morsing | I went bowling yesterday |
| 17:13.56 | goibhniu | Wow! that's planning! |
| 17:14.27 | morsing | Huh? |
| 17:14.34 | morsing | What do you mean? |
| 17:14.42 | goibhniu | I went and saw apocalypto .. it rocks very much |
| 17:14.52 | morsing | Cool :) |
| 17:15.33 | goibhniu | you were already thinking about next friday last week |
| 17:16.00 | goibhniu | I believe it has the best squirt of blood I've ever seen |
| 17:16.17 | antiphase | Tasty |
| 17:16.23 | goibhniu | with bubbles! |
| 17:18.10 | morsing | goibhniu: Me and my friend, who is a great cinema fan, have issues going to the cinema. Last time we went were in March! |
| 17:18.31 | morsing | We saw an ad on TV for this movie and decided we would go |
| 17:18.45 | morsing | It's on from next Friday |
| 17:18.54 | morsing | I can't even book it yet |
| 17:22.02 | morsing | Any experts here on making gloegg? (Scandinavian mouldy wine) |
| 17:24.42 | goibhniu | I'm more of a sorte svin person myself |
| 17:27.37 | antiphase | use Beer; |
| 17:29.49 | goibhniu | yeah, shouldn't be hard to find mouldy beer |
| 17:35.05 | morsing | goibhniu: Well, it's Christmas |
| 17:35.34 | morsing | incidently, Sorte Svin is called Smaa Graa in Copenhagen |
| 17:35.47 | morsing | I think you'd get in trouble saying Sorte Svin :) |
| 18:15.39 | morsing | Can a <td> be told to move to the top? |
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| 18:20.22 | antiphase | Move to the top of what? |
| 18:20.41 | antiphase | You can move the contents, the cell itself is part of the table and can't be moved |
| 18:24.18 | morsing | Sorry, found valign which worked |
| 18:24.24 | morsing | flips_and_rails! |
| 18:26.22 | antiphase | That's old skool. style="vertical-align: top;" is more modern |
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| 18:44.18 | morsing | boudiccas! |
| 18:47.33 | boudiccas | morsing; jawohl mein herr? |
| 18:47.54 | morsing | Sehr gut |
| 18:47.59 | morsing | Leeds? |
| 18:53.09 | z00dax | hello everyone! |
| 18:53.37 | z00dax | boudiccas: why are you running a hugemem kernel anyway ? do you really have more than 8 gigs of ram on your i386 machine ? ( dont need hugemem on x86_64, that works fine till 128gigs of ram ) |
| 18:54.20 | wethrin | morsing! |
| 18:54.24 | wethrin | hi people |
| 18:54.24 | morsing | wethrin! |
| 18:54.30 | wethrin | You pung me earlier? |
| 18:54.34 | morsing | wethrin: What's happening |
| 18:54.36 | morsing | YES! |
| 18:54.45 | morsing | Exonetric have been emailing me! |
| 18:54.48 | wethrin | I'm going out for food with parents in a bit |
| 18:54.50 | wethrin | Oh yes? |
| 18:54.50 | morsing | What's going on? |
| 18:55.01 | morsing | When are we moving? |
| 18:55.27 | wethrin | Umm....-->pm |
| 18:55.34 | morsing | Why? |
| 18:55.44 | z00dax | are you guys actually moving to poundhost then ? |
| 18:55.47 | wethrin | No |
| 18:55.58 | z00dax | where to then ? |
| 18:56.19 | morsing | Wethrin says it's a secret |
| 18:56.23 | z00dax | also, if I was to drop in 6U worth of stuff - would it then make sense for a few of us to get together and actually lease half a rack or something ? |
| 18:56.30 | wethrin | z00dax: Blueolinux |
| 18:56.36 | z00dax | pass |
| 18:56.40 | wethrin | Bluelinux, even |
| 18:56.48 | wethrin | It could be - depends on the cost, etc. |
| 18:56.52 | wethrin | And when you'd do it |
| 18:57.06 | wethrin | Once I get a computer moved, I'd prefer not to move it again for a bit |
| 18:57.07 | z00dax | I could do it tomorrow, and yes it would depend on cost |
| 18:57.20 | z00dax | but why BlueLinux ? just get the space from the people they lease from its cheaper |
| 18:57.28 | z00dax | do you really need hands on from these guys ? |
| 18:58.01 | z00dax | iirc they dont even hang around in the area - so mostly you get $clueless redbus guys walking around all over the machines |
| 18:58.05 | morsing | Kitty! |
| 18:58.15 | Kitty | you lot looking at colo of machines ? |
| 18:58.33 | morsing | Yes |
| 18:58.33 | z00dax | Kitty: cost-effective colo, yes :) |
| 18:58.35 | boudiccas | z00dax; i had installed it many moons ago, and just kept on doing so. I've since removed it :o) |
| 18:58.45 | morsing | Cheap rather than cost-effective |
| 18:59.03 | morsing | Yes but you're selling them :) |
| 18:59.08 | z00dax | Kitty: I have 5 TiB in one machine, 2U box - how do I get that into a VM ? |
| 18:59.17 | antiphase | Warez! |
| 18:59.25 | Kitty | z00dax: same way I have 4.4 in a 64meg vm |
| 18:59.32 | morsing | z00dax: p570! |
| 18:59.36 | Kitty | z00dax: tell us what you want, we can set it up for you. |
| 19:00.15 | wethrin | z00dax: What about serial console access? |
| 19:00.35 | morsing | And remote power |
| 19:00.44 | z00dax | wethrin: my machines have ipmi / svc's |
| 19:00.52 | murb | z00dax: I can get a complete rack for 200 euro / month + power. |
| 19:00.54 | wethrin | Console over interweb? |
| 19:01.01 | z00dax | I can powercycle from the management interface :) |
| 19:01.11 | murb | recent ipmi does that, but it doesn't help when you have a switch port failure :( |
| 19:01.14 | Kitty | murb: Which DC ? |
| 19:01.25 | morsing | z00dax: Can you tell me how to do that on an IBM X330 |
| 19:01.33 | wethrin | And on a Netra T1 |
| 19:01.39 | z00dax | Kitty: the issue I have is that I need 6U worth of space, i dont need much b/w - 200 - 250gb/month will do me |
| 19:01.39 | murb | out of band is good. |
| 19:01.56 | murb | z00dax: how much power do you think you kit uses? |
| 19:01.58 | z00dax | morsing: no idea, do they not have a management interface ? |
| 19:02.02 | Kitty | z00dax: the important question, how much power do you need ? |
| 19:02.04 | morsing | Yes they do |
| 19:02.06 | morsing | How to use it |
| 19:02.12 | morsing | ? |
| 19:02.30 | z00dax | murb: 2 sun V20z's 1 V40 and the other 2U has a 650watt power source |
| 19:03.22 | z00dax | does that help w.r.t power requirements ? or you want me to actually go look ? |
| 19:03.32 | Kitty | z00dax: a number would be handy, in amps if you can |
| 19:04.13 | z00dax | no idea how i could find that out, the machines are all sitting here next to me and running at the moment |
| 19:04.16 | murb | z00dax: how many kwh/month would you estimate for normal usage including a few reboots? |
| 19:05.03 | z00dax | 3Amps should do me just fine I'd think. ( from a Sun guy, I trust him ) |
| 19:05.19 | z00dax | that is max case situation |
| 19:06.13 | Kitty | hmmm |
| 19:06.23 | Kitty | z00dax: whats the closest quote you have had for colo / |
| 19:06.34 | z00dax | if I could get this stuff online somewhere, I could live off a single Laptop at home! *bliss* |
| 19:07.11 | z00dax | Kitty: havent looked recently. the last time i thought about it - it took me 3 months to recover from the shock |
| 19:07.16 | Kitty | lol |
| 19:11.08 | antiphase | Who needs loads of servers at home? |
| 19:13.05 | murb | antiphase: people who work from home and do dev work. |
| 19:13.15 | murb | or otherwise needlots of test systems |
| 19:13.25 | murb | or live ssystems they happen to host at home because it is cheaper |
| 19:13.36 | antiphase | Sounds a bit Irish to me |
| 19:13.58 | z00dax | antiphase: these machines i use are buildmachines for centos.karan.org and centos.org stuff |
| 19:14.26 | z00dax | the large storage box i have is mostly for expanded sources for the various packages |
| 19:15.58 | Kitty | antiphase: when you do lots of development, or work from home having boxes at home is simple |
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| 19:21.14 | wethrin | Kitty! You around 4th February, 4th of March, or around Easter-time? |
| 19:22.20 | morsing | Or how about 18th of April or the 23rd of February? |
| 19:22.38 | wethrin | 23rd I'll be in Belgium |
| 19:22.45 | Kitty | around in what sense ? |
| 19:22.50 | Kitty | as in can I come collect on those dates ? |
| 19:23.25 | wethrin | Yarr |
| 19:23.50 | Kitty | let me see |
| 19:23.57 | Kitty | will let you know witin 24 hours |
| 19:24.04 | morsing | Kitty: I'm crazy |
| 19:24.05 | Kitty | where am I collecting from, durham, or other ? |
| 19:24.12 | wethrin | Beaconsfield |
| 19:24.12 | Kitty | morsing: yes ? |
| 19:24.55 | wethrin | Although 4th Feb I need to leave around 6ish |
| 19:25.13 | wethrin | I suspect 4th March would be the same |
| 19:27.06 | wethrin | (given there's 10am meetings on both the Mondays after) |
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| 20:26.26 | morsing | Leeds! |
| 20:26.53 | Leeds | yes... just got in, going to sleep very soon |
| 20:27.01 | Leeds | it's almost 4:30am |
| 20:27.51 | Leeds | was out drinking and dancing... didn't need to see Nicole getting off with a relatively random bloke who does - wow! - magic tricks... |
| 20:28.26 | Leeds | also slightly odd to see a friend of my parents, from Leeds, who does work in HK and who I've bumped into before, with his son who's now working for him... in the same bar I spent the evening in |
| 20:29.26 | Leeds | did have the nice surprise of seeing Vanessa and Jennifer |
| 20:40.36 | Leeds | and now, since nobody is listening here anyway... to sleep |
| 20:47.44 | morsing | G'night |
| 20:47.49 | morsing | I'm listening |
| 20:54.08 | morsing | What is $@? |
| 20:54.51 | morsing | There's a bug in Debian!!! |
| 20:54.58 | morsing | F***£$" |
| 20:57.27 | z00dax | quick fix it |
| 20:57.42 | morsing | Crap |
| 20:57.49 | morsing | Done |
| 20:58.26 | z00dax | now submit the patch |
| 20:58.32 | z00dax | so that others might benefit too |
| 20:59.15 | morsing | z00dax: How? Where? |
| 20:59.27 | z00dax | i am sure debian has a bugzilla somewhere |
| 20:59.33 | morsing | It's not a software bug, just a configuration bug :) |
| 21:07.39 | morsing | Also, what runs stuff in /etc/cron.d and when? |
| 21:09.07 | antiphase | crond? |
| 21:09.15 | antiphase | Every minute I'd have though |
| 21:09.18 | antiphase | t |
| 21:11.31 | morsing | Doesn't work then |
| 21:13.48 | antiphase | PEBKAC. cron is quite a well established concept |
| 21:14.06 | morsing | Not on Linux |
| 21:14.23 | morsing | Linux sucks |
| 21:14.44 | antiphase | You'd be knackered if you tried Solaris I suspect ;) |
| 21:14.56 | morsing | Solaris sucks even more |
| 21:15.03 | morsing | I work with it |
| 21:15.54 | antiphase | But you can't read the cron man page... |
| 21:16.03 | morsing | I don't read |
| 21:49.15 | hali | http://stuartl.longlandclan.hopto.org/blog/wp-content/uploads/2007/01/don_t_mess_with_employees.pdf |
| 22:09.25 | sabinef72 | morsing ! |
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