| 00:00.07 | trousers_laptop | Ah, right, hard to tell the difference in scripts for me |
| 00:00.18 | gw280 | I picked up the X40 in Taiwan if that's why you're asking |
| 00:00.40 | trousers_laptop | Indeed |
| 00:00.57 | trousers_laptop | I didn't know irssi posted a "Day changed to" message in every window... |
| 00:01.03 | gw280 | it does. |
| 00:01.13 | trousers_laptop | Indeed |
| 00:01.54 | gw280 | note to self: redesign website |
| 00:05.18 | gw280 | 00:04:59 Irssi uptime: 90d 0h 0m 59s |
| 00:05.19 | gw280 | woo. |
| 00:05.31 | trousers_laptop | Is this running off your server? |
| 00:05.41 | gw280 | yes |
| 00:06.43 | murb | hmm |
| 00:06.47 | murb | uptime: 48d 0h 59m 32s |
| 00:13.05 | trousers_laptop | 3 days for my server :( Once I move it to the garage it should get a few months uptime at least before a power cut... Unless I pick up a decent UPS |
| 00:13.57 | trousers_laptop | gw280: How much did you end up getting paid in GBP at the end of SoC? |
| 00:16.54 | gw280 | 2600 |
| 00:16.55 | gw280 | or something |
| 00:17.02 | trousers_laptop | Not bad |
| 00:17.05 | gw280 | oh, my server's in telehouse |
| 00:17.08 | trousers_laptop | Only did one project (rules?) |
| 00:17.15 | gw280 | yes |
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| 00:36.05 | gw280 | moo. |
| 00:36.06 | gw280 | MOOOOOOOOOOO |
| 00:36.09 | gw280 | death |
| 00:45.51 | trousers_laptop | The cow of doom? |
| 00:59.08 | serris | hi trousers_laptop |
| 01:15.34 | trousers_laptop | Morning serris |
| 01:16.56 | serris | Morning : ) |
| 01:16.59 | serris | How's it going? |
| 01:23.01 | trousers_laptop | Fine, thanks, and yourself? |
| 01:23.49 | serris | Alright. Been trying to install VMWare server on my wife's ubuntu PC. I managed to get her to convert! |
| 02:55.20 | gregj | anyone knows where I can get whole series of "eatrh: final conflict" these days ?? |
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| 05:59.52 | morsing | 'morning |
| 05:59.55 | morsing | Leeds! |
| 06:01.33 | Leeds | http://www.internettrafficreport.com/asia.htm |
| 06:02.13 | Leeds | Hong Kong fell off the Internet this morning... as did Singapore... also affected voice traffic... and there was at least some effect in Thailand as well |
| 06:03.09 | Leeds | things are still very unreliable |
| 06:04.00 | Leeds | probably caused by the earthquake last night |
| 06:16.20 | morsing | Nice |
| 06:16.38 | morsing | I thought the earthquake was local to McDonalds? |
| 06:18.48 | morsing | Leeds: Does this mean you can add subtitles to a DVD or something? |
| 06:18.50 | morsing | http://www.subtitles-divx.net/3741/I+Kina+spiser+de+hunde.html |
| 06:23.26 | morsing | Leeds? |
| 06:24.24 | morsing | ibot wake Leeds |
| 06:24.25 | ibot | ACTION throws a barrel-full of ice water on Leeds and shouts "GOOD MORNING!!!!" |
| 06:32.42 | morsing | LEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEDS! |
| 06:34.40 | Leeds | almost gym time... |
| 06:35.18 | morsing | Leeds: Answer my question please |
| 06:36.21 | Leeds | why? |
| 08:36.11 | Leeds | so apparently, yes, the earthquake has knocked out most trans-pacific cable communications |
| 08:49.19 | morsing | Leeds: ssh keys on the Treo... |
| 08:49.42 | morsing | I can only find "Import public key" but why would I want to do that? |
| 08:50.01 | morsing | I need to generate a key pair and put the public key on my server |
| 08:50.07 | morsing | Is that not possible? |
| 08:51.50 | Leeds | no |
| 08:52.01 | Leeds | you leave the private key on the server and put the public key on the client |
| 08:52.22 | Leeds | the internet is fucked: http://www.cnn.com/2006/WORLD/asiapcf/12/27/internet.asia.reut/index.html |
| 08:54.20 | morsing | Leeds: But I never log in to the client. What would be the point? |
| 08:54.38 | morsing | I have an ssh client on my phone and I want to access the server without password |
| 08:57.59 | cpufreak | hurray |
| 08:58.02 | cpufreak | back at work |
| 08:58.14 | morsing | Nice |
| 08:58.20 | morsing | I just had rundstykker |
| 08:58.28 | cpufreak | oh really? |
| 08:58.29 | cpufreak | I am sorry |
| 08:58.38 | morsing | They're brilliant |
| 09:00.32 | morsing | Leeds? |
| 09:04.19 | Leeds | morsing: so you put the public key on the client |
| 09:04.24 | Leeds | this morning, the only one of three different routes out of Hong Kong which was actually stable enough to ssh over was from my phone |
| 09:04.27 | Leeds | that is, the three routes I have access to |
| 09:07.45 | morsing | Nice |
| 09:16.36 | morsing | Beer |
| 09:19.13 | morsing | Leeds? |
| 09:19.51 | serris | morning morsing |
| 09:24.05 | morsing | serris! |
| 09:25.44 | serris | how's it going? |
| 09:32.51 | morsing | serris: It's stressful |
| 09:33.58 | serris | back to work? |
| 09:35.13 | morsing | No - not for another week |
| 09:35.45 | morsing | We're going to my sister's and my mum has been running around like a headless chicken for the last four hours |
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| 09:36.02 | morsing | No idea what she's doing but she keep saying she won't be ready in time |
| 09:36.09 | serris | =/ |
| 09:36.11 | morsing | JAV! |
| 09:36.16 | serris | Unlucky. My parents are away for Christmas |
| 09:36.20 | morsing | Nice |
| 09:36.21 | serris | And I've been working the whole time |
| 09:36.39 | serris | Sunday I pulled a 14 hour shift, on Monday I was back for a 12 hour shift |
| 09:36.43 | morsing | Well, I don't normally see my parents more than 2-3 times a year |
| 09:36.44 | JAV | good morning! |
| 09:36.55 | morsing | So at Christmas I have to put up with it |
| 10:00.16 | Leeds | serris: good money, though, I hope |
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| 10:14.36 | Leeds | hmm... something got fixed - I'm maxing my line nicely now |
| 10:29.11 | trousers_laptop | Morning all |
| 10:32.01 | serris | morning trousers_laptop |
| 10:32.06 | serris | Leeds: I hope so too |
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| 12:32.02 | phearless | hi #gllug |
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| 12:56.24 | secretlondon | hi |
| 13:01.20 | trousers_laptop | Still need to set up a Linux club at school, now preaching Gentoo :) |
| 13:04.05 | secretlondon | cool - college is still windoze hell |
| 13:22.02 | secretlondon | this is my theory why everything is so quiet now |
| 13:22.17 | secretlondon | not just on irc - on live journal and email too |
| 13:22.27 | secretlondon | they are all just skiving |
| 14:03.56 | boudiccas | trousers_laptop; how can you 'defend against' someone? You either defend them or you are against them! You can't do both at once! |
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| 14:15.40 | secretlondon | hi cat, bouddicas |
| 14:16.20 | boudiccas | secretlondon; hiyas :) |
| 14:17.00 | wethrin | Hello |
| 14:17.37 | secretlondon | hi wethrin |
| 14:18.06 | wethrin | Arr. How's the U1? |
| 14:19.20 | secretlondon | wethrin: it's now got openbsd on it - however got some weirdness with sd0. I'm getting scsi sync errors and obsd can't open it - however it still boots solaris nine perfectly |
| 14:19.48 | secretlondon | it's as though its a bsd problem rather than a drive problem |
| 14:20.03 | secretlondon | sd1 is happy and is the drive with bsd on |
| 14:20.33 | wethrin | Hmm.....could be something to do with the Sun weirdness of swapping SCSI IDs 0 and 3 |
| 14:22.45 | secretlondon | hmm - but open bsd knows about that. and that wouldn't produce the errors I'm getting - "!TC on DATA XFER" and "SCSI bus parity error" |
| 14:23.05 | wethrin | Maybe the drive is slowly on its way out |
| 14:23.51 | secretlondon | wethrin: could be - but it can't even find out how big it is. I'm going to try to see if it has probs with more than one scsi drive - google found some net bsd bugs like that |
| 14:24.17 | wethrin | I'm certainly running my colo machines with 2 drives without any problem |
| 14:24.20 | catalyst | bonjour secretlondon, wethrin, boudiccas |
| 14:24.58 | boudiccas | catalyst; gutten abeden |
| 14:25.14 | secretlondon | yeah - and the ultra 1 creator isn't that weird - it does have a upa port on it which is slightly different from normal but shouldn't be somehting it can't deal with |
| 14:26.04 | boudiccas | catalyst; forget the german, good afternoon :) |
| 14:26.09 | secretlondon | its just weird that it can boot solaris fine (but i still have no access *grrr*) and yet openbsd can't find a disklabel |
| 14:27.14 | catalyst | :) |
| 14:27.25 | catalyst | my camera now moves along the correct axis :D |
| 14:30.44 | wethrin | I don't think Solaris and OpenBSD like reading each others' disks |
| 14:31.27 | secretlondon | wethrin: openbsd claims to have solaris compatible disk lebels - but openbsd has upto 16 partitions |
| 14:31.44 | secretlondon | but I can't even wipe the thing to install to it :( |
| 14:32.20 | wethrin | Sure - dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/sd0 bs=1k count=4 |
| 14:33.40 | secretlondon | i'll try that. if it does contain top sekrit info I'm not sure I can be bothered to obtain it |
| 14:35.49 | wethrin | Then disklabel should just create a new one |
| 14:35.54 | wethrin | man disklabel IYF |
| 14:37.35 | secretlondon | I think the scsi errors may need more than that. I'm a real scsi n00b though. I'm going to try swapping the disks over etc to troubleshoot. It's only a 7 gig drive or something though. the one that works is 18g which is better, |
| 14:38.04 | wethrin | That's quite a good size. Normally you'd only get a 2 or 4GB with that age machine |
| 14:38.22 | secretlondon | yeah - new(er) drives by the look of things |
| 14:39.31 | wethrin | Aye |
| 14:39.36 | wethrin | You interested in a Sun monitor? |
| 14:39.47 | wethrin | I might be able to dig out a keyboard and mouse too. Maybe. |
| 14:41.53 | secretlondon | wethrin: i have a monitor and several mice/keyboards from freecycle |
| 14:42.01 | secretlondon | so i'm fine thanks |
| 14:42.11 | wethrin | Right, fine. Got cables too, I presume? |
| 14:42.22 | secretlondon | i think the cdrom in the sparcstation 20 is broken alas |
| 14:42.49 | wethrin | Hm. I think my spare SCSI CD drives are up in Durham |
| 14:43.08 | wethrin | I did manage to get hold of a SCSI CD-RW drive, which is rather nifty |
| 14:43.42 | secretlondon | wethrin: yep - I have the u1 booting to a monitor- not set up x yet - i've been using a serial console for ease - but had to use hyperterminal as I couldn't work out how to get itr working in *nix |
| 14:44.22 | wethrin | minicom |
| 14:44.24 | secretlondon | I managed to install to the u1 by booting from a floppy and then getting the sets from a ftp server I set up on another box |
| 14:44.33 | wethrin | That's the easiest way |
| 14:44.36 | secretlondon | it looked like minicom was just for serial modems |
| 14:44.40 | wethrin | Nope |
| 14:45.20 | wethrin | It'll work just for ordinary serial gubbins. You might need to tell it not to use initialisation sequences, though |
| 14:45.27 | wethrin | Want a proper serial terminal? |
| 14:45.59 | secretlondon | wethrin: I think I don't have room.. |
| 14:46.40 | secretlondon | I've read that cu is easier than minicom and gtkterm is easier still |
| 14:50.14 | wethrin | They're not big :) |
| 14:57.29 | secretlondon | wethrin: I only have a 1 bed flat with 10 computers ;) |
| 14:58.46 | wethrin | Yes, but most of them stack |
| 14:59.22 | secretlondon | true |
| 15:02.45 | wethrin | And a serial terminal's not much bigger than a 14" monitor with an oversized keyboard |
| 15:03.43 | secretlondon | yeah but if can use a window in x as a serial terminal all the better |
| 15:04.05 | wethrin | Maybe. More things to go wrong :) |
| 15:06.48 | trousers_laptop | boudiccas: It's perfectly possible to defend against something... |
| 15:07.51 | boudiccas | trousers_laptop; tortology [or however its spelt] :) |
| 15:10.31 | secretlondon | maybe a us english borrowing - they have differences between transitive and transitive verbs (like the way they protest blah, rather than protest against, but they meet with foo, not meet foo) |
| 15:10.37 | secretlondon | +in |
| 15:15.49 | secretlondon | hmm - 24 mins left, shall I get another hour.. |
| 15:16.41 | wethrin | Depends if the alternative is worse |
| 15:21.47 | secretlondon | indeed |
| 15:24.32 | trousers_laptop | boudiccas: The study cakes? |
| 15:25.57 | trousers_laptop | tatuology - "the repetitious or unnecessary use of words that do not provide new information in an utterance, as Hear, hear! or I myself said... Note: Tautologies occur commonly in everyday speech. adj. tautologous." |
| 15:27.17 | trousers_laptop | Although I wouldn't classify "defend against" as tautological, as if I said "defend" it wouldn't make sense, and "defend from" essentially means the same as "defend against" so nyer |
| 15:41.22 | secretlondon | another hour done |
| 15:41.47 | secretlondon | its only 50p |
| 15:43.38 | secretlondon | and i'm downloading stuff |
| 15:43.51 | secretlondon | as well as being a chronically bored net addict |
| 15:43.58 | trousers_laptop | secretlondon: What's 50p? |
| 15:44.35 | secretlondon | trousers_laptop: an hour of decent speed net in this net cafe |
| 15:44.47 | trousers_laptop | Not bad |
| 15:45.05 | secretlondon | its normally £1 they have an offer on |
| 15:45.57 | trousers_laptop | Argh, what command do you use to set keyboard type |
| 15:45.58 | trousers_laptop | ? |
| 15:46.27 | secretlondon | i'm weak and use a gui |
| 15:46.33 | secretlondon | gnome thingey |
| 15:46.52 | wethrin | trousers_laptop: You need to load the appropriate keymap |
| 15:47.34 | trousers_laptop | wethrin: Any cli tool in particular? |
| 15:47.50 | wethrin | I disremember |
| 15:47.56 | wethrin | I always set it at installation |
| 15:48.18 | wethrin | And otherwise used some magic Deb*an thing to reconfigure the keyboard the only time I had to |
| 15:48.19 | secretlondon | it is in xorg.conf - not sure about cli |
| 15:48.54 | trousers_laptop | secretlondon: Well, I prefer it to stay as UK when not in Xorg, too |
| 15:49.19 | wethrin | apropos keymap |
| 15:50.12 | trousers_laptop | "nothing appropriate" |
| 15:50.30 | wethrin | grep -i keymap /etc/rc.d/* |
| 15:51.04 | trousers_laptop | Ah, I think I found mine /etc/conf.d/keymaps :) |
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| 16:14.15 | wethrin | Looks like I might be having a drink in London tonight. Somewhere near Old Street. Anyone fancy a wee pint with myself and one of my (UCL Uni) friends? |
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| 16:24.46 | secretlondon | wethrin: maybe |
| 16:37.10 | secretlondon | i seem to be half asleep today |
| 16:37.31 | wethrin | Have coffee |
| 16:40.56 | wethrin | later! |
| 16:41.28 | secretlondon | i have 10 mins left here - if I fancy coming I'll text you |
| 16:48.41 | secretlondon | bye all |
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| 19:51.49 | andrew__ | hi everyone |
| 19:52.51 | Gunde | hi andrew__ |
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| 20:19.43 | gw280 | andrew__: moo |
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| 23:56.01 | wethrin | Ahoy |
| 23:56.44 | catalyst | aloha |
| 23:56.49 | catalyst | Wii is intense |
| 23:57.05 | wethrin | If you say so :) |
| 23:58.08 | z00dax | hello! all you lovely people |
| 23:59.02 | wethrin | z00! |
| 23:59.17 | pdr | ahoj |
| 23:59.17 | z00dax | and the not so lovely people, you too |
| 23:59.19 | z00dax | hi wethrin |
| 23:59.23 | z00dax | pdr: ! |
| 23:59.27 | pdr | z00dax! |
| 23:59.42 | wethrin | pdr! |
| 23:59.45 | pdr | wethrin! |
| 23:59.47 | z00dax | good holiday season ? |
| 23:59.51 | pdr | yeah, not bad |