| 02:21.08 | Leeds | good news! http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/entertainment/6186436.stm |
| 07:38.55 | trousers | Is it normal in Debian for the screen to fade to white when killing X? |
| 07:46.32 | morsing | Leeds! |
| 07:47.15 | morsing | andrew__: Thanks...?! |
| 08:27.10 | morsing | Hello? |
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| 08:52.20 | sabinette | hello |
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| 09:06.29 | codeshepherd | I am able to mount my CD.. but when i try to copy files from it.. (only large files) I get the Input/Output error .. dmesg reports the following .. http://pastebin.ca/259273 |
| 09:06.31 | Lottokim | cd is not okey? |
| 09:18.17 | YoussefAssad | yes, that looks like a media/hardware problem, codeshepherd |
| 09:18.50 | YoussefAssad | my guess would be media, since it mounts fine |
| 09:28.22 | morsing | sabinette! |
| 09:35.10 | morsing | Why can my new Squirrelmail not show my inbox? |
| 09:35.32 | morsing | It hase it under folders and can see how many new mails I have but the right hand pane in just bank |
| 09:36.08 | morsing | It does that on all large folders... |
| 09:45.49 | sabinette | hi morsing !!!!!!!!!! |
| 09:46.10 | sabinette | my power supply is dead !!!! |
| 09:46.25 | morsing | :( |
| 09:47.09 | sabinette | almost fire on my computer saturday afternoon ! |
| 09:47.43 | sabinette | so I'm using benoit' computer |
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| 10:09.31 | morsing | catalyst! |
| 10:09.36 | catalyst | morsing! |
| 10:10.15 | catalyst | I got money off my trip back to southampton courtesy of the dude in front of me getting shirty about young persons railcards >:) |
| 10:43.14 | wethrin | people! |
| 10:43.26 | wethrin | catalyst: How did that work? |
| 10:45.01 | serris | hi all |
| 10:46.10 | catalyst | wethrin: we were supposed to pay extra because you're technically not allowed to use Y-P railcards before 9:30 but the guy argued so vehemently that the dude in the ticket office let him off paying extra. Then let me off too since he could hardly charge me after letting the other guy off >:) |
| 10:47.17 | wethrin | Ah. Fair enough :) |
| 10:49.40 | morsing | wethrin! |
| 10:49.47 | wethrin | morsing! |
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| 10:52.56 | wethrin | formi! |
| 10:53.30 | morsing | 0 |
| 10:53.39 | catalyst | 1 |
| 10:54.27 | wethrin | 2 |
| 10:54.32 | catalyst | 11 |
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| 10:57.21 | morsing | goibhniu! |
| 10:58.42 | wethrin | (I'm Sorry I Haven't a Clue)++ # silliness |
| 10:59.33 | psnl | yeah |
| 11:03.01 | serris | hi morsing |
| 11:04.13 | morsing | serris! |
| 11:05.45 | serris | how's it going? |
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| 11:11.55 | formi | hello! |
| 11:12.02 | tripitaka | hi |
| 11:12.10 | formi | i was chasing murb |
| 11:12.28 | tripitaka | good luck |
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| 11:14.00 | goibhniu | morsing! |
| 11:14.45 | tripitaka | curio: The standard Nokia SMS alert actually spells out 'S M S' in morse |
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| 11:20.18 | morsing | LeedsTreo! |
| 11:20.45 | LeedsTreo | arse! |
| 11:23.16 | LeedsTreo | trying to deal with someone else's machine, can't get beyond boot, and have now apparently hosed windows |
| 11:24.27 | formi | LeedsTreo: don't stress about it, it is windows after all |
| 11:25.03 | LeedsTreo | I'm stressed... can't boot Linux, can't boot windows, can't get online |
| 11:25.46 | cpufreak | go to sleep then |
| 11:25.47 | tripitaka | got a rescue disk? |
| 11:27.00 | formi | life without computers, sounds relaxing |
| 11:27.25 | LeedsTreo | not my machine |
| 11:27.35 | LeedsTreo | cpufreak, fuck off |
| 11:27.47 | cpufreak | you're the one with issues |
| 11:28.02 | cpufreak | stop trying to put your issues on other people |
| 11:28.13 | antiphase | Go Ricky! |
| 11:28.24 | LeedsTreo | cpufreak - really. enough now |
| 11:28.32 | cpufreak | :o |
| 11:28.32 | cpufreak | dude |
| 11:28.39 | cpufreak | take a chill pill or something |
| 11:28.56 | antiphase | Welcome to #linux-agony-aunts |
| 11:51.45 | morsing | Beer |
| 11:53.11 | psnl | sounds good. is it your round? |
| 12:04.52 | wethrin | It's always his round. He has a job, y'know |
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| 12:12.53 | wethrin | morning SlayerXP |
| 12:13.08 | SlayerXP | yo |
| 12:23.29 | morsing | SlayerXP! |
| 12:23.48 | SlayerXP | yo |
| 12:30.50 | morsing | SlayerXP: How's your brother? |
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| 12:43.45 | morsing | Does anyone here use Dovecot and/or Imap? |
| 12:44.59 | SlayerXP | morsing: yes and yes. |
| 12:45.06 | SlayerXP | though I wish we didn't use dovecot |
| 12:47.22 | morsing | SlayerXP: I re-installed my server but Squirrelmail now won't show the contents of folder over a certain size |
| 12:47.39 | morsing | I've checked dovecot.conf, squireelmail setting and phy.ini |
| 12:47.46 | morsing | I can't find any limits |
| 12:48.07 | morsing | It doesn't timeout, it quite quickly displays a blank page, no error or snythinmg |
| 12:48.11 | morsing | anthing |
| 12:48.13 | SlayerXP | errm, dunno |
| 12:48.30 | SlayerXP | i'm not aware of any size limit constraints beyond what the filesystem has |
| 12:48.45 | morsing | :( |
| 12:49.03 | morsing | It's the same installation and config I used before re-installing |
| 12:49.11 | morsing | I just can't figure it out... |
| 12:50.51 | morsing | How do I find out if Dovecot or Squirrelmail is the problem? |
| 12:52.32 | morsing | And what's this: |
| 12:52.33 | morsing | syslog:Nov 27 12:45:48 emil imap(morsing): IndexID mismatch for binary tree file /home/morsing/mail/.imap |
| 12:52.36 | morsing | /INBOX/.imap.index.tree |
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| 12:53.46 | morsing | Dick_Turpin! |
| 12:53.47 | popey | morsing: I have the same problem |
| 12:53.52 | morsing | popey: Cool :) |
| 12:53.57 | popey | so i now use mutt |
| 12:53.58 | popey | :) |
| 12:53.59 | morsing | popey: What's the fix then ;-) |
| 12:54.02 | morsing | mutt? |
| 12:54.08 | popey | console based email client |
| 12:54.09 | morsing | Uhh... That's not webmail though |
| 12:54.11 | popey | rather than web based one |
| 12:54.13 | popey | indeed |
| 12:54.20 | popey | that's my workaround |
| 12:54.22 | morsing | popey: As many others, I have no choice |
| 12:54.23 | popey | "don't use it" :) |
| 12:54.39 | popey | you can't ssh out on port 443? |
| 12:54.52 | morsing | Irrelevant really |
| 12:55.09 | Dick_Turpin | where were you buggers when my suse box decided to hate me? |
| 12:55.17 | popey | fair enough |
| 12:55.18 | morsing | Dick_Turpin: We all hate you |
| 12:55.30 | Dick_Turpin | Bastard |
| 12:56.35 | Dick_Turpin | my Beryl install is dead :-( |
| 13:01.46 | boudiccas | our condolences on beryls demise, but have tou tried out centos? :o) |
| 13:01.51 | boudiccas | *you |
| 13:03.01 | Dick_Turpin | boudiccas, I run that here at work |
| 13:03.14 | boudiccas | so you know how good it is then for home usage too |
| 13:03.33 | serris | hi boudiccas |
| 13:03.47 | boudiccas | serris; hiyas :) |
| 13:03.56 | serris | any news back from sainsbury's? |
| 13:04.04 | boudiccas | nope, not a sausage |
| 13:04.05 | Dick_Turpin | boudiccas, Actually I think something is a-foot with beryl their site was down Sunday |
| 13:05.14 | boudiccas | serris; when they don't even say 'thank you for your application but no joy this time' doesn't create a good impression |
| 13:06.10 | serris | They'll say that if they don't watn you. That's the first letter I got from 'em but got a ring back about 2 days later saying there's an opening. Like I said, just wait 'bout. They'll get to your application sooner or later but the fact you didn't specify anything for the job you're wanting to go into might slow it down |
| 13:07.14 | boudiccas | i don't really care what i do, bakery, bws, groceris replenishment, its all dough in the end |
| 13:07.32 | serris | Yeah but they like it if you know what you want to do : ) |
| 13:08.13 | boudiccas | when you only know the firm as a customer, its difficult to stipulate your preference |
| 13:08.24 | serris | I know : ) |
| 13:08.29 | serris | You don't want to work bakery btw |
| 13:08.33 | serris | If it's anything like ours |
| 13:08.52 | boudiccas | theyre churning out the doigh all the time |
| 13:08.58 | boudiccas | *dough |
| 13:09.15 | serris | The hassle's not worth the money that our bakery staff get |
| 13:09.37 | boudiccas | anyway, you'll have to excuse me as i'm going out to meet some friends and i need to get ready |
| 13:10.02 | serris | ok |
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| 13:42.54 | Dick_Turpin | aha so the Beryl server has had a hard drive failure |
| 13:44.23 | Dick_Turpin | ibot_, am i talking to myself? |
| 14:08.44 | morsing | Chekc it! |
| 14:08.58 | iTron | Chekc what? |
| 14:12.58 | morsing | iTron: Do I have to say something when I pick them up? |
| 14:26.13 | iTron | morsing: Pick what up? 0.o |
| 14:30.55 | boudiccas | morsing; when the weather warms up, you can pick them up again and say "Aaah! That feels better!" But beware of cold snaps because they'll drop again with a clang! |
| 14:31.09 | wethrin | boudiccas: what about cold schnapps? |
| 14:31.34 | boudiccas | wethrin; no problem there if they are sufficently protected |
| 14:31.42 | wethrin | That's okay then |
| 14:32.03 | boudiccas | morsing is the one who has to worry! |
| 14:32.29 | morsing | iTron: Sorry, friend is supposed to pick something up for me and she asked "Do I have to say something when I go there?" |
| 14:32.48 | morsing | I of course, say "Yes, otherwise they'll think there's something wrong with you!" |
| 14:33.19 | boudiccas | laryngitis |
| 14:33.55 | wethrin | morsing++ |
| 14:40.40 | morsing | wethrin... |
| 14:40.45 | wethrin | yes? |
| 14:40.57 | morsing | Beer |
| 14:41.06 | wethrin | Ooh. Maybe later |
| 14:41.14 | wethrin | Or wine. |
| 14:41.17 | morsing | How's George? |
| 14:42.22 | wethrin | Probably being beaten into becoming a civilised chap |
| 14:43.28 | morsing | Nice |
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| 14:52.52 | morsing | huw-l! |
| 14:53.02 | morsing | huw-l: Thanks for your help this morning |
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| 15:04.49 | morsing | Nice |
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| 15:14.11 | trousers | Okay, I want to build a robot with embedded Linux... Should I start looking around uClinux? |
| 15:15.32 | goibhniu | isn't the new lego stuff open source? |
| 15:17.02 | goibhniu | trousers: what are you going to use ... gumstix? |
| 15:28.44 | trousers | goibhniu: Possibly... I need to find out about what interfaces I can use... I assume thge natural choice is serial |
| 15:28.49 | trousers | Is serial hard to interface with? |
| 15:29.17 | wethrin | Err. No. |
| 15:30.01 | hali | trousers: have you decided what board you are using? |
| 15:31.42 | trousers | hali: No, any suggestions? |
| 15:32.59 | hali | trousers: you can easily scam a tiniboard off dallas semi .. if you like java... it's got a tiny (tini) unix-like os and a jre ... easy to code and got decent IO |
| 15:34.28 | hali | or that israeli company... thats their name again |
| 15:34.51 | hali | they support linux on a number of platforms... x86, arm, xscale etc |
| 15:35.58 | hali | compulab! |
| 15:47.17 | huw-l | morsing: you are still confusing me with someone else |
| 15:47.26 | morsing | :)apps-seeb-vg |
| 15:47.29 | morsing | Eh? |
| 15:50.30 | phearless | hello #gllug |
| 15:51.58 | morsing | phearless! |
| 15:52.16 | phearless | what's going on, on #gllug ? |
| 15:52.32 | phearless | still a megaIRCpartyfiesta ? :) |
| 15:55.50 | goibhniu | Go Leeds! |
| 15:57.06 | morsing | Leeds! |
| 15:57.38 | Leeds | got a machine with a working floppy drive, a buggered CD drive (reads some CDs, not others), an external USB DVD drive, and a currently buggered windows XP with some strange dynamic filesystem setup |
| 15:57.42 | Leeds | I buggered the windows... |
| 15:59.11 | Leeds | it's now almost midnight - I've come back to my place to get my laptop and head back over to my mates... argh |
| 16:10.29 | morsing | goibhniu: That was me! |
| 16:11.33 | goibhniu | I knew it! ... did you notice the way I stared at you with awe and respect? |
| 16:14.02 | morsing | goibhniu: Sorry it wasn't really me :) |
| 16:21.43 | goibhniu | it was you ... it was ... if I see you again I'll give you a big bear hug and dribble on your shoulder |
| 16:34.01 | morsing | Nice |
| 16:34.12 | morsing | I'm mozrat btw |
| 16:35.13 | YoussefAssad | wow... mental note, don't ever buy a firefox bag. |
| 16:35.53 | morsing | Because I'm mozrat? |
| 16:37.57 | YoussefAssad | No, because people might dribble on me |
| 16:41.12 | goibhniu | I wouldn't dribble on just anyone ... only morsing ... because I saw him this morning ... and he looked upset |
| 16:43.46 | goibhniu | and mozrat of course ... because mozrat "is" morsing |
| 16:47.06 | goibhniu | YoussefAssad: you need to asks Leeds to send you a Wizpy ... http://www.reghardware.co.uk/2006/11/23/wizpy_linux_media_player/ |
| 16:47.47 | goibhniu | in February |
| 16:54.38 | YoussefAssad | holy crap, that's sexy |
| 16:59.43 | goibhniu | only in Japan though :( |
| 17:29.51 | YoussefAssad | no mention of storage format or capacity though. |
| 17:34.52 | goibhniu | I heard about it on the linux action show .. reading up on it now ... some reports say 1.5GB flash others say 60GB hd ... having firefox and skype on it seems to be getting some attention |
| 17:35.34 | goibhniu | divx support too is nice ... $250 |
| 17:36.36 | goibhniu | for listening to audio I think I prefer something miniscule with a good battery life |
| 17:36.47 | goibhniu | 1GB would be plenty |
| 17:37.50 | goibhniu | I'm leaning towards an iriver H10 but I can't find out for sure if it can handle ogg with rockbox on it |
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| 18:30.09 | trousers | Howdy |
| 18:31.10 | goibhniu | hey trousers! |
| 18:31.41 | goibhniu | how did it go with the tablet btw? |
| 18:37.25 | trousers | Err, I'm configuring it for another time to try to get it perfect :) |
| 18:37.54 | trousers | What I want to do is eventually have a (hopefully) gumstix robot controlled over WiFi :D |
| 18:38.20 | goibhniu | cool .. that sounds very good ... I'm wondering .. can you rotate the screen ... does the pen work ... and is it fast??? |
| 18:38.38 | goibhniu | those gumstix are waycool! |
| 18:38.43 | trousers | It's not particularly fast, I haven't rotated the screen yet... But the pen can work! |
| 18:39.10 | goibhniu | I'd love to have an excuse to get a gumstix ... considered making a media player out of one but chickened out in the end |
| 18:40.14 | trousers | I just don't know how I'd operate any systems from the gumstix PC... i.e. motor control |
| 18:40.39 | goibhniu | my brother has one ... but he's not going to try linux again any time soon ... I spent a day trying to get a wifi card working with ubuntu and he was not impressed (it didn't work) |
| 18:41.04 | goibhniu | I think there are already quite a lot of gumstix robotics projects out there |
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| 18:41.14 | trousers | That's what happened to a guy I know -- he now hates Linux |
| 18:41.29 | goibhniu | it's pretty rich as far as io is concerned |
| 18:41.34 | goibhniu | Leeds!!! |
| 18:41.49 | goibhniu | Leeds: have you brought that machine to it's knees yet? |
| 18:42.43 | Leeds | no, but I've brought it back to my flat |
| 18:42.55 | trousers | It's good enough for now! |
| 18:42.57 | goibhniu | yay! and it's not even 3 am yet |
| 18:43.18 | Leeds | got as far as the ubuntu netinstall, got it trying to install from my laptop, discovered my friend had 6.06 and I'd grabbed the 6.10 netinstall kit |
| 18:43.52 | trousers | What can I actually do over a serial port? I've never actually used it... Can I specify certain voltages etc. or do I need a driver chip at the other end? |
| 18:44.08 | Leeds | the main problem, at this point, is an apparently knackered windows filesystem containing at least a couple of important documents |
| 18:45.28 | goibhniu | Leeds: but you've got an image of that ... right? so you can blast it off of there and get the machine back? |
| 18:45.50 | Leeds | of what? |
| 18:45.55 | goibhniu | of the hd? |
| 18:46.01 | Leeds | no |
| 18:46.13 | goibhniu | not playing ball? |
| 18:46.29 | Leeds | no, I don't have an image |
| 18:46.41 | Leeds | the problem is - there are lots of problems which are - catch-22 |
| 18:46.52 | goibhniu | I tried to install to a usb hd from a usb cd over the weekend ... it took 30 mins to get into the desktop! |
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| 18:47.11 | Leeds | the windows stuff is on a 'dynamic disk' - essentially a windows lvm type thing, which shows up as one big partition unless you've got support in your kernel |
| 18:47.37 | Leeds | I got the thing booted enough to apparently mess up the partition table enough that windows will now not boot at all |
| 18:48.00 | goibhniu | I've been there before :D |
| 18:48.03 | Leeds | I can boot from *some* CDs/DVDs - I can boot Slackware or DR-DOS, but not ubuntu or fedora... |
| 18:48.38 | Leeds | the drive on the machine, or the BIOS, or something, is knackered, and won't read some disks |
| 18:49.07 | goibhniu | lovely ... it's a laptop I presume? |
| 18:49.12 | Cope | hello |
| 18:49.18 | Leeds | yes, laptop |
| 18:49.38 | Leeds | I can pxe boot it, at least, which helps a little with the sanity of the situation |
| 18:50.00 | goibhniu | can you swap the hd with a different one? |
| 18:50.28 | goibhniu | I was really lucky the last time I destroyed a partition table |
| 18:50.28 | Leeds | then of course for extra fun, you get that the ISP my mate has requires each machine on the LAN to login over PPPoE - and to make it worse, he's got no idea what his password is, because Windows knows |
| 18:51.03 | goibhniu | omg! too much fun! |
| 18:51.35 | goibhniu | hey Cope! |
| 18:51.36 | Leeds | which is about the point where I gave up - also, it being 2am, and him having to be up for work in the morning, plus the trains having stopped and me being across town... |
| 18:51.53 | Leeds | Cope: sorry - not ignoring you - just going through entertaining story of someone else's dead laptop :-) |
| 18:52.47 | Leeds | anyway, the minimum success scenario is recovering data from the windows partition and getting it running Linux - he wants Ubuntu, and I can't argue with that... |
| 18:53.09 | Leeds | for bonus points, getting windows booting again would be appreciated, even though he's not quite sure what he needs it for |
| 18:53.33 | Cope | we've just put fc6 on helena's laptop |
| 18:53.51 | goibhniu | hooray! |
| 18:54.14 | Leeds | we did pop out to the local computer centre, picked up a (the?) local Linux mag which had a FC6 live CD on the cover... it didn't help |
| 18:54.32 | goibhniu | I just handed a disgruntled windows user an ubuntu cd ... I hope it does the magic! |
| 18:55.34 | Leeds | for the record, I may be moaning, but I'm enjoying this - it's a proper challenge, I expect to win in the end, and I'm exercising my linux and PC troubleshooting skills :-) |
| 18:56.09 | goibhniu | Leeds: don't mind antiphase and cpufreak ... they're only looking for attention |
| 18:56.16 | goibhniu | :D |
| 18:56.35 | Leeds | they're starting to get boring though |
| 18:57.34 | goibhniu | It's time for me to log off and see how my new arch machine is doing |
| 18:57.34 | goibhniu | have fun Leeds! |
| 18:57.47 | Leeds | anyway, it's now 3am... I have an appointment with a recruitment agent later... should really get some sleep rather than spending all night playing with the problem |
| 18:57.52 | Leeds | goibhniu: thanks - and you too :-) |
| 18:58.05 | Leeds | Cope: so is she liking it? |
| 18:58.42 | Cope | so far, yes; although the synaptics touchpad is flakey and realplayer gives choppy sound |
| 18:58.49 | Cope | and i've not installed palm desktop-like stuff yet |
| 18:59.06 | Leeds | is it an old machine? |
| 18:59.14 | Cope | no |
| 18:59.17 | Cope | newish |
| 18:59.18 | Leeds | in terms of the realplayer stuff, that is |
| 18:59.35 | Cope | realplayer 10 |
| 18:59.52 | Cope | up to date according to the helix pae |
| 19:00.01 | Leeds | for what it's worth, the synaptics driver works very well on my machine, except that I've not quite got the hang of the tap yet, so I sometimes get taps when I don't want them, and sometimes don't get them when I do |
| 19:01.31 | Leeds | I got some funny looks this evening, on my way back here to pick up my machine, when my Treo managed to crash three times in about 10 minutes - standing on the train swearing loudly at it didn't go down well with the audience :-) |
| 19:02.26 | Cope | *giggle* |
| 19:02.30 | Cope | what treo have you? |
| 19:02.36 | Leeds | 650 |
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| 19:03.59 | Cope | just running the palm software? |
| 19:04.03 | Cope | helena has one of those too |
| 19:04.40 | Leeds | can you imagine me 'just' running the palm software? |
| 19:04.55 | Cope | i tried |
| 19:04.56 | Cope | but failed |
| 19:05.04 | Cope | william says hello! |
| 19:05.05 | Cope | :o) |
| 19:05.14 | Leeds | hello creature |
| 19:06.01 | Cope | ibot creature |
| 19:06.10 | ibot | well, creature is william |
| 19:07.41 | Cope | ibot william |
| 19:07.46 | ibot | rumour has it, william is the son of Cope, who is living with Cope!, or not to grow up anything like George, or probably eating |
| 19:07.55 | Cope | hehe |
| 19:08.00 | Cope | he is eationg |
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| 19:13.29 | sabinette | hellooooooo |
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| 19:15.23 | Cope | ibot laomao |
| 19:15.34 | ibot | rumour has it, laomao is the artist formerly known as Mrs Cope, but no longer so :-( |
| 19:15.34 | Leeds | sabinette! |
| 19:16.21 | sabinette | hi Leeds how are you ? |
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| 19:18.20 | sabinette | woops |
| 19:18.27 | trousers | What is wrong with this command -- "mv *.mp3 music/" ? |
| 19:19.05 | sabinette | I didn't see last sentences |
| 19:19.52 | Cope | apart from the likely redundancy of the "."? |
| 19:20.12 | Cope | and apart from the complete lack of context? |
| 19:20.22 | Leeds | if any mp3 files start with - you're screwed |
| 19:20.45 | Leeds | potentially, anyway |
| 19:23.22 | Leeds | sabinette: I'm good - been fighting a linux installation problem for about 11 hours, got an appointment with a recruitment agent tomorrow, and an intruiging message from someone I know in the US about work... and I've been chatting with someone who says my blog makes me seem sensitive and who I'm going to meet later in the week at a public event - and who didn't run a mile on seeing a photo of me :-) |
| 19:23.56 | sabinette | nice |
| 19:25.34 | Cope | csae |
| 19:25.37 | Cope | ace even |
| 19:25.57 | Leeds | indeed :-) |
| 19:28.46 | morsing | Check it! |
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| 19:31.21 | Cope | ooh hello morsing |
| 19:31.36 | morsing | Cope! |
| 19:37.13 | YoussefAssad | wow, eldy.org finally released |
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| 19:42.20 | Leeds | YoussefAssad: it's in Italian? |
| 19:43.02 | YoussefAssad | Leeds: it's been vaporware for ages, and now for some reason they release for windows... will give it a whirl and let you know |
| 19:43.20 | Leeds | what is it? :-) |
| 19:43.22 | YoussefAssad | my in-laws expressed an interest in it, and I'd hoped it would be a nifty entrypoint to linux |
| 19:43.55 | YoussefAssad | Leeds: nothing revolutionarry, just a realy dumbed down interface |
| 19:44.02 | YoussefAssad | s/arry/ary/ |
| 19:44.03 | Leeds | a GUI? |
| 19:44.31 | YoussefAssad | ibot_: you missed my second typo. Dunce cap, now. |
| 19:44.31 | Leeds | ibot that's annoying |
| 19:45.11 | YoussefAssad | wat linux installation problem were you wrangling with, Leeds ? |
| 19:45.33 | morsing | What's the most common size air gun pellet? |
| 19:46.40 | Leeds | YoussefAssad: short summary: machine with working floppy drive, half working DVD drive (refuses to read some disks) and external USB DVD drive... and XP owning the entire hard drive in a strange lvm-like way |
| 19:48.04 | trousers | 0000000. |
| 19:48.51 | Leeds | anyway, after a few hours of fighting... windows refuses to boot and I haven't managed to get a linux kernel running on the machine which can understand the lvm-like thing |
| 19:49.25 | morsing | trousers: What's the most common size air gun pellet? |
| 19:52.48 | trousers | morsing: No idea, sorry *Googles* |
| 19:53.19 | trousers | 6mm, it looks like for BBs |
| 19:57.04 | morsing | trousers: That's te biggest size though |
| 19:57.14 | morsing | Why do you think that's the most common? |
| 19:57.25 | morsing | Is it stamped on the gun somewhere? |
| 19:57.35 | morsing | I can't measure that precisely |
| 19:58.23 | morsing | trousers: I need to find out before my camping trip |
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| 20:18.39 | floo | Good evening |
| 20:23.15 | Leeds | good morning |
| 20:23.21 | Leeds | ugh, I really need to sleep |
| 20:23.35 | floo | What's the time there? |
| 20:23.43 | Leeds | 4:21am :-( |
| 20:24.16 | floo | good god!! how come up so late |
| 20:25.53 | Leeds | was out until about 2:30, haven't got around to sleeping yet |
| 20:26.19 | floo | naughty boy. good job you're not working then |
| 20:27.00 | Leeds | I'm not, but I do have an appointment with a recruitment agent in less than 12 hours, and at the gym before that |
| 20:27.17 | floo | hope it goes well |
| 20:27.32 | floo | I've set wheels in motion about teaching in China |
| 20:27.45 | floo | We're looking at Hong Kong |
| 20:28.14 | Leeds | really? |
| 20:29.31 | floo | yes |
| 20:30.20 | floo | It'll be a damn sight less pressured and less admin intensive as well as seeing and experinecing a different culture |
| 20:30.36 | Leeds | I know quite a few teachers here |
| 20:30.48 | Leeds | including the guy whose laptop I was fighting with all night... |
| 20:33.48 | Leeds | and now I've got my DVD drive in a twist :-( |
| 20:36.35 | floo | I'm in the process of buying a new laptop |
| 20:37.02 | floo | Can't decide whether to go for a transtec running linux or a mac |
| 20:39.07 | Leeds | I'm pretty happy with my Dell, except that it tends to overheat if left on a soft surface |
| 20:40.31 | floo | should I get a mac though? |
| 20:40.47 | floo | seems all my linux chums are using them |
| 20:41.08 | Leeds | to run Linux or MacOS? |
| 20:41.42 | mattblack | I'm impressed with my IBM Thinkpad laptop. actually a Lenovo machine. the Linux emporium sells Lenovo machines |
| 20:42.15 | floo | primarily mac |
| 20:42.37 | floo | I can always run linux from cd or dual boot |
| 20:42.51 | mattblack | with windows on I must add. Work will not be pleased if I put linux on it. |
| 20:43.42 | mattblack | I have ubuntu on live cb persistance on my 4-year old hi-grade |
| 20:44.05 | Leeds | I counted out a thinkpad simply on cost - they're nice machines, but you pay for that |
| 20:44.36 | Leeds | I should point out that I was buying a machine to replace the work thinkpad I had been using |
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| 20:45.45 | deep-blue | bon soire sabinef72 |
| 20:46.10 | deep-blue | evening guys |
| 20:46.22 | sabinef72 | bonsoir deep-blue |
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| 20:53.14 | rhowe | haha http://petitions.pm.gov.uk/juggle/ |
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| 20:55.23 | Leeds | this machine boots quickly :-) |
| 20:56.14 | rhowe | Leeds: http://petitions.pm.gov.uk/juggle/ |
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| 20:58.03 | Leeds | rhowe: indeed... but the ice-cream isn't really fair |
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| 21:22.23 | Erwin | Any know of some sort of compilation of restaurants offering something interesting NYE? Something exclusive without being a too formal black tie affair. |
| 21:27.26 | rhowe | http://petitions.pm.gov.uk/christmas-single/ |
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| 23:53.24 | rhowe | hm, nice and easy to get refunds for tube delays - https://www.tfl.gov.uk/tube/contacts/refunds.asp |