irclog2html for #gllug on 20061009

`04:33.27`	`morsing`	`'morning`
`04:40.40`	`serris`	`morning, morsing`
`04:59.44`	`morsing`	`serris!`
`04:59.52`	`morsing`	`Still at work?`
`05:03.35`	`serris`	`Nah`
`05:03.44`	`serris`	`Been home all night`
`05:07.09`	`morsing`	`Me too`
`06:36.14`	`boudiccas`	`serris; night off :)`
`06:36.49`	`serris`	`Yep. Got work tonight though`
`06:37.10`	`boudiccas`	`short days off wasn't it?`
`06:37.57`	`serris`	`Yep. Just one night. Went by too fast too. Barely did anything and it's already 7:37AM`
`06:38.43`	`boudiccas`	`doing much overtime atm? and do you tend to take on more staff to cope with the christmas crush?`
`06:40.01`	`serris`	`we're taking on staff currently, though our manager seems to enjoy the company of women so we took a bunch on which I don't quite grasp but hey, he's the manager. And no, not doing over time.`
`06:40.26`	`boudiccas`	`think i'll pick an application form up soon`
`06:40.43`	`serris`	`One of my mate's had his mate start last night`
`06:41.12`	`boudiccas`	`baker making plenty of dough for the day shift?`
`06:41.22`	`serris`	`I saw a few people interviewed the past few weeks. Supposedly some 'cute' Japanese girl is joining the shift.`
`06:41.31`	`serris`	`Hahaha our bakery sucks`
`06:41.46`	`serris`	`The only full night shift baker left for another job cause he got fed up`
`06:42.01`	`serris`	`So atm the bakery starts to function between 4AM and 5AM`
`06:42.01`	`boudiccas`	`well, if i'm accepted i'll be working at the maidstone branch`
`06:42.28`	`boudiccas`	`=if= i'm accepted`
`06:42.41`	`serris`	`Do you know anyone that works there?`
`06:42.46`	`boudiccas`	`nope`
`06:43.31`	`serris`	`Damn. A lot of people who get on are referenced by one of us to the manager`
`06:44.15`	`serris`	`referred*`
`06:44.24`	`boudiccas`	`i don't know anyone by name to chat too, know plenty of their customers by sight, but no staff :(`
`06:45.03`	`serris`	`Yeah`
`06:45.16`	`serris`	`I went to get some food from work today`
`06:45.29`	`serris`	`Spent about 10 minutes as soon as I stepped in just saying hi to everyone I knew there =/`
`06:45.34`	`boudiccas`	`I invariably chat to the staff when i'm being served in the checkout line, but other than that no contacts`
`06:45.53`	`serris`	`But my mate who works Checkout CTS said he can try to get my fiancee on to checkouts`
`06:46.07`	`boudiccas`	`checkout CTS?`
`06:46.14`	`morsing`	`boudiccas!`
`06:46.20`	`boudiccas`	`morsing`
`06:46.20`	`serris`	`Checkout Customer and Trading Supervisor`
`06:46.39`	`serris`	`Basically does the same as a manager but for about 8 grand less anually`
`06:46.42`	`boudiccas`	`ah, the ones with the mobile phones`
`06:46.49`	`serris`	`Yep`
`06:47.11`	`serris`	`Nightshift CTS supervise the shop and basically tell everyone what to do if there are no managers in`
`06:47.27`	`serris`	`I keep getting offered the job but too much responsibility for too little money. Only 50p extra per hour`
`06:47.42`	`boudiccas`	`ah well, just have to see how it goes and if they take on extra staff for the christmas rush`
`06:47.50`	`serris`	`They do`
`06:47.57`	`serris`	`October is the time they start taking people on`
`06:48.29`	`boudiccas`	`how long is the time interval between application form and being called for an interview please?`
`06:48.32`	`serris`	`If your branch is the same as ours, you hand in your paper and then they will process it and either send you a later that they're not interested or that the position is currently not open but they'll take you on`
`06:49.21`	`serris`	`I don't know. I had my CTS mate referr me so I got the call wtihin 2 days or so. But my first interview was for Administration rather than Nightshift cause that just got filled. Though a week later I got called in again to see if I was interested in the nightshift position and I transfered`
`06:49.53`	`boudiccas`	`ah, right, i see. thanks. because i'm on holiday next week`
`06:50.04`	`serris`	`But the other lad that started last night. He gave his app. in and was referred to the manager via another nightshift worker and he had to wait.... 6-7 weeks to actually start`
`06:50.40`	`boudiccas`	`oh well, just have to wait and see`
`06:50.48`	`serris`	`The process is this: Hand in application -> Interview -> Waiting to see if they call you back for induction -> have to wait for next induction time. -> Go through the enduction and start`
`06:51.20`	`boudiccas`	`where is induction held? normla store or another one?`
`06:51.26`	`boudiccas`	`*normal`
`06:51.26`	`serris`	`Normal`
`06:51.35`	`serris`	`So whichever you're applying to`
`06:51.42`	`boudiccas`	`the one you're going to work in logically`
`06:51.44`	`serris`	`Mine was 3 days, payed`
`06:52.00`	`serris`	`Do you have a TESCO around you by any chance?`
`06:52.03`	`boudiccas`	`ah they all 3 days?`
`06:52.11`	`serris`	`I'm not sure but I think so`
`06:52.23`	`serris`	`they just gather a bunch of people, hence you have to wiat and then they do it`
`06:52.35`	`boudiccas`	`yes, a small garage one up the road, and a bigger further out of town`
`06:52.39`	`boudiccas`	`why?`
`06:52.58`	`serris`	`TESCO pays better`
`06:53.02`	`serris`	`for nightshift anyway`
`06:53.25`	`boudiccas`	`why aren't you at tesco's then? :)))`
`06:53.48`	`serris`	`Not sure actually`
`06:54.05`	`boudiccas`	`i had already considered tesco's, but i know more about sainsburys`
`06:54.08`	`serris`	`They don't have payed breaks though`
`06:54.09`	`serris`	`I do`
`06:54.25`	`serris`	`Tesco has better roller breakdown too`
`06:54.46`	`boudiccas`	`roller brekadown?`
`06:55.06`	`serris`	`but at the end of the day, my managers are good, I'm not gonna get fired. I keep being offered promotions at sainsbury's and I like the people that work there`
`06:55.35`	`serris`	`Most of the stock comes in on rollers (cages). In theory every aisle should have just its own products on that roller`
`06:55.48`	`boudiccas`	`fair enough, they look after the staff, and the staff look after them`
`06:55.51`	`serris`	`But due to our depo being too small and lacks man power to do the sorting properly, we get aisles mixed`
`06:55.57`	`serris`	`Which take long to break down (sort out)`
`06:56.16`	`boudiccas`	`ah, i see`
`06:56.24`	`serris`	`On BWS that takes the longest`
`06:56.49`	`serris`	`Out of a 10 hour shift, I will be decking down and breaking down 17-30 rollers 'till 2-3AM`
`06:56.51`	`boudiccas`	`you'll have to excuse me now, i'm going to have a big breakfast and then go into town`
`06:57.20`	`serris`	`Which is probably what I'll be doing tonight. But the loads are getting way too heavy for just one person so they better start training another person up to help me out by december`
`06:57.35`	`serris`	`Last year it was me and another guy all night on BWS and at times we struggled to finish`
`06:57.50`	`serris`	`And no worries. I have to go into town in a bit too. Talk to you later : )`
`07:15.42`	`morsing`	`Beer`
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`07:21.25`	`serris`	`I just bought 18 fosters for a fiver, morsing. Want some? : )`
`07:23.36`	`morsing`	`murb`
`07:23.47`	`serris`	`murb?`
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`07:43.58`	`morsing`	`SlayerXP!`
`07:46.52`	`*** join/#gllug huw-l (n=scmhl2@ygridll.cs.cf.ac.uk)`
`07:47.32`	`SlayerXP`	`morning`
`07:49.17`	`morsing`	`huw-l!`
`07:51.51`	`huw-l`	`bastard battery-backed burglar alarms. damned cheap-skate landlords.`
`07:52.03`	`huw-l`	`BEEP! BEEP! BEEP!`
`07:52.08`	`huw-l`	`since 3:00`
`08:08.08`	`mozrat`	`oh dear :(`
`08:08.11`	`mozrat`	`Morning peeps`
`08:11.49`	`morsing`	`mozrat!`
`08:12.21`	`z00dax`	`hello gang!`
`08:12.33`	`z00dax`	`Welcome to another week, in this game called Life.`
`08:12.47`	`z00dax`	`now, time to shower!`
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`08:13.48`	`sabinef72`	`morning`
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`08:17.39`	`sabinef72`	`morning`
`08:24.45`	`huw-l`	`is anyone else concerned that z00dax checks into IRC before getting a shower?`
`08:25.04`	`sabinef72`	`lol`
`08:26.22`	`morsing`	`sabinef72!`
`08:26.37`	`sabinef72`	`heyyyy morsing`
`08:30.06`	`morsing`	`sabinef72: Did you get my mail yesterday?`
`08:30.39`	`sabinef72`	`morsing: yes. Thank you very much !`
`08:32.26`	`morsing`	`Hope that was helpful`
`08:33.20`	`sabinef72`	`yes I'll correct it and wait mozzie for all other pages`
`08:34.19`	`morsing`	`sabinef72: There was a bit missing in the long middle section though`
`08:34.56`	`sabinef72`	`what do you mean ?`
`08:34.56`	`sabinef72`	`in my website ?`
`08:35.03`	`sabinef72`	`or in the page you read ?`
`08:40.53`	`morsing`	`The text I sent wasn't complete`
`08:41.16`	`sabinef72`	`is it because the rest was perfect or is it just a missing of you ?`
`08:43.04`	`morsing`	`It's missing because I wasn't sure what the best way to write it was. You need to ask mozrat`
`08:44.29`	`sabinef72`	`ok thank you for all morsing`
`08:46.14`	`mozrat`	`morsing!`
`08:46.22`	`mozrat`	`You are talking about sabinef72s translation?`
`08:46.41`	`morsing`	`Yes`
`08:47.34`	`mozrat`	`I had problems with her translation because what she writes is 90% correct and understandable and I worry that changing it to "perfect English" would take her character out of it`
`08:47.52`	`mozrat`	`The way it is written sounds like her.. do you know what I mean?`
`08:48.29`	`sabinef72`	`yes I don't want exactly a perfect english`
`08:48.31`	`mozrat`	`yay`
`08:48.42`	`sabinef72`	`I only want something correct and understandable`
`08:48.48`	`mozrat`	`sabinef72: what you write is 90% correct`
`08:49.53`	`sabinef72`	`did you read all my pages in english ?`
`08:50.48`	`boudiccas`	`sabinef72; you have english pages? wow! are you royalty or something similar? :)`
`08:51.19`	`sabinef72`	`no`
`08:53.55`	`mozrat`	`hello boudiccas`
`08:54.07`	`boudiccas`	`mozrat; hiyas :)`
`08:54.19`	`mozrat`	`How is the garden of england today?`
`08:54.43`	`boudiccas`	`back garden or front garden? I've never been sure`
`08:55.13`	`mozrat`	`Dover is the compost heap`
`08:55.21`	`mozrat`	`North Kent is quite nice`
`08:55.36`	`boudiccas`	`here in the back garden its cool and they're promising us rain by the end of the day, so i'm hurrying up to get various little jobs done`
`08:56.49`	`boudiccas`	`dover is nice in small doses i think`
`08:56.58`	`mozrat`	`I had a 5 year dose of it`
`08:57.12`	`boudiccas`	`i was thinking of the odd day`
`09:00.00`	`serris`	`Hi boudiccas`
`09:00.16`	`boudiccas`	`i've been down here 13 years now, and i've had 3 dyas in dover total`
`09:00.23`	`boudiccas`	`serris; hiyas`
`09:00.32`	`mozrat`	`yo serris`
`09:00.39`	`serris`	`hey mozrat`
`09:00.40`	`boudiccas`	`*days`
`09:00.43`	`serris`	`How's it going?`
`09:01.14`	`Leeds`	`immediate next job is to find a flat`
`09:01.15`	`boudiccas`	`i'm just waiting for my slap to dry before i hit the streets and go shopping`
`09:02.12`	`serris`	`I'm just getting ready to go to Argos in a bit`
`09:02.44`	`boudiccas`	`oooohhhh, serris is hitting the high life! :)`
`09:03.16`	`serris`	`Yep`
`09:03.44`	`serris`	`Morning started good. Found a dead rat in a pizza box outside the house`
`09:03.47`	`Leeds`	`boudiccas: no tickle?`
`09:04.16`	`boudiccas`	`Leeds; sorry, not with you?`
`09:04.29`	`Leeds`	`boudiccas: to go with the slap`
`09:04.44`	`Leeds`	`(and yes, I know what slap is)`
`09:04.47`	`boudiccas`	`ah, i c . no just slap trowelled on`
`09:08.30`	`wethrin`	`hello`
`09:17.24`	`morsing`	`How do I get apache to log redirect attempts and failures? (loops etc.)`
`09:18.04`	`Leeds`	`hmm... there are lots of serviced apartment buildings in Hong Kong, but most of them seem to be full`
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`09:18.46`	`wethrin`	`keef!`
`09:24.12`	`morsing`	`If Apache says Blah blah escaping blah blah for redirect`
`09:24.18`	`morsing`	`What does that mean?`
`09:25.22`	`SlayerXP`	`it's probably rewriting spaces as %20 and the suchlike`
`09:25.39`	`morsing`	`SlayerXP: Why does it loop?`
`09:26.05`	`SlayerXP`	`dunno, it's your config file`
`09:26.14`	`morsing`	`It's not`
`09:26.30`	`SlayerXP`	`then don't worry about it :)`
`09:26.40`	`morsing`	`I'm paid to worry`
`09:26.57`	`morsing`	`What does R=301,L mean?`
`09:27.32`	`morsing`	`Does tab work between the redirect and target?`
`09:27.36`	`morsing`	`Like:`
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`09:27.46`	`morsing`	`Sorry, it's a rewrite`
`09:27.47`	`SlayerXP`	`L is Last`
`09:27.48`	`morsing`	`So:`
`09:27.58`	`SlayerXP`	`i.e. don't process any more rules after this one`
`09:28.07`	`morsing`	`RewriteRule ^/something <TAB> http://...`
`09:28.07`	`SlayerXP`	`(assuming the rule matches)`
`09:28.25`	`morsing`	`SlayerXP: Could TABs make it loop?`
`09:28.29`	`SlayerXP`	`no`
`09:28.40`	`SlayerXP`	`tabs are treated as whitespace in apache's config`
`09:28.53`	`morsing`	`R=301?`
`09:28.54`	`SlayerXP`	`if you want a tab in the url (and you're evil if you do), you need to encode it`
`09:29.04`	`SlayerXP`	`i'm guessing that the redirect code to use`
`09:29.09`	`morsing`	`It's not in the URL`
`09:29.31`	`morsing`	`WOW - last rule is`
`09:29.32`	`SlayerXP`	`301 being "moved permanently"`
`09:29.50`	`morsing`	`RewriteRule ^/.* ...`
`09:30.51`	`SlayerXP`	`that may explain your loops`
`09:34.45`	`morsing`	`It did :)`
`09:36.30`	`SlayerXP`	`would you be so kind as to find out who put that in and slap them for me?`
`09:39.11`	`Leeds`	`hmm.. 230 sq foot is pretty small`
`09:39.53`	`morsing`	`It was Jim Lamb - I already knew that`
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`09:54.33`	`mozrat`	`hey mikejw`
`09:55.06`	`mikejw`	`lo :)`
`10:00.53`	`mozrat`	`Thanks for volunteering some time!`
`10:01.01`	`mozrat`	`I'll be there both days`
`10:01.25`	`morsing`	`mikejw!`
`10:56.14`	`mozrat`	`foo`
`11:03.37`	`mikejw`	`mozrat: coolio!`
`11:04.13`	`z00dax`	`huw-l: nothing to worry about, I had already been for my run by that time. ... a rather wet run though`
`11:11.18`	`mikejw`	`mozrat: I like the idea of the OOo presentation`
`11:17.20`	`huw-l`	`z00dax: I was worried that your IRC addiction was reacing dangerous levels. I was ready to stage an intervention. :)`
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`11:26.07`	`z00dax`	`huw-l: :) tbh, I've not been on irc much these days, life + work + centos, them three keep getting in the way`
`11:26.20`	`z00dax`	`I am looking forward to my 2 week break in the second half of Oct :)`
`11:29.55`	`mozrat`	`mikejw: yes!`
`11:30.59`	`z00dax`	`what presentation ?`
`11:41.49`	`mikejw`	`a slide show of GLLUG-meet images`
`11:50.29`	`morsing`	`pdr!`
`11:50.57`	`serris`	`Hi all`
`11:51.58`	`morsing`	`serris!`
`11:52.39`	`serris`	`How's it going?`
`11:57.37`	`mozrat`	`Not too bad over here in W2`
`11:58.00`	`serris`	`: )`
`11:58.24`	`serris`	`I'm just about to get some sleep. Got back and bought the wedding rings`
`11:59.08`	`mozrat`	`nice one :-)`
`11:59.10`	`z00dax`	`quite ok in NW6 as well`
`11:59.27`	`z00dax`	`wedding rings? who's getting hit ?`
`11:59.39`	`serris`	`I'm also trying to figure out how I seem to have read 32GBs for a folder size last night and it's now only 22GBs`
`11:59.46`	`serris`	`I'm getting married on Friday, z00dax`
`12:00.02`	`z00dax`	`serris: ah. cool :)`
`12:00.08`	`z00dax`	`serris: is #gllug invited ?`
`12:00.22`	`serris`	`No : ( it's just a quick and painless wedding early morning`
`12:00.28`	`z00dax`	`serris: mozrat + morsing do a great wedding crashers act. you gotta see them in action`
`12:00.36`	`serris`	`haha`
`12:00.38`	`z00dax`	`serris: dont worry, we can bring pain along.`
`12:00.46`	`serris`	`That's my worry`
`12:00.54`	`z00dax`	`:D`
`12:00.56`	`serris`	`;)`
`12:01.14`	`z00dax`	`this is only the begining, i hear the worry comes later.`
`12:01.27`	`serris`	`Hehe`
`12:02.00`	`z00dax`	`and as it happens, i am free Friday morning, and my suit is ironed!`
`12:02.17`	`pdr`	`morsing!`
`12:02.23`	`serris`	`Mine isn't. =/ I just bought some cheap black tshirt from TESCO for it`
`12:02.31`	`serris`	`I think it was 3 quid`
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`12:06.29`	`morsing`	`Jasperw!`
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`12:34.07`	`morsing`	`Is logs/*log.{7,8,9} supposed to mean something?`
`12:41.15`	`z00dax`	`morsing: i am sure it does.`
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`12:56.23`	`morsing`	`sabinef72!`
`12:58.48`	`sabinef72`	`morsing !`
`13:04.15`	`morsing`	`Does anyone have a link to a massive ASCII-art smiley?`
`13:13.51`	`rhowe`	`http://www.asciiworld.com/smiley.html`
`13:14.12`	`rhowe`	`First hit for http://www.google.co.uk/search?q=ascii%20art%20smiley& oddly enough`
`13:14.40`	`wethrin`	`A massive ASCII-art smiley? Sure: "echo ':-)' \| banner"`
`13:15.03`	`rhowe`	`wethrin: That looks a little skewiff :)`
`13:15.17`	`wethrin`	`\|figlet, then`
`13:15.20`	`wethrin`	`But it won't be as big`
`13:15.47`	`rhowe`	`wtf? TOO MUCH FREE TIME http://www.astro.umd.edu/~marshall/smileys.html`
`13:16.01`	`wethrin`	`Um. astro, as in astrophysics?`
`13:16.06`	`wethrin`	`Of course they've got too much free time`
`13:16.59`	`morsing`	`rhowe: Tried that already`
`13:17.20`	`morsing`	`rhowe: It's on it's side!`
`13:18.33`	`morsing`	`AAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!`
`13:18.50`	`wethrin`	`Gnah. My back hurts, still`
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`13:27.32`	`morsing`	`goibhniu!`
`13:27.41`	`goibhniu`	`morsing!`
`13:28.37`	`goibhniu`	`I was saying the other day how it's not such a big deal to change the backlight in a laptop screen ...`
`13:28.52`	`goibhniu`	`I just trashed my screen`
`13:29.16`	`goibhniu`	`it turned out to be a little tricky`
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`13:38.31`	`morsing`	`Erwin!`
`13:38.33`	`morsing`	`boudiccas!`
`13:38.52`	`boudiccas`	`morisng`
`13:45.01`	`keithlard`	`clonk clonk`
`13:45.35`	`boudiccas`	`is it really that cold outside? :)))))`
`13:45.58`	`SlayerXP`	`Forgive me, morsing, for I have sinned`
`13:50.01`	`morsing`	`SlayerXP!`
`13:53.03`	`SlayerXP`	`i had evil thoughts regarding Emon, Hentry Gilbert and Diana, and how they should club together to make their own linux distro`
`14:09.35`	`morsing`	`MWAAAAAHAAAA HAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA slayerxp`
`14:15.00`	`SlayerXP`	`z00dax: you there? I need munin RPMs for RHES3`
`14:15.10`	`SlayerXP`	`z00dax: presumably there's a centos archive somewhere`
`14:16.19`	`SlayerXP`	`"using" is a bit strong`
`14:17.32`	`z00dax`	`SlayerXP: ah humm.. dont know about EL3.. /me looks`
`14:19.21`	`z00dax`	`SlayerXP: try rebuilding http://centos.karan.org/el4/extras/stable/SRPMS/munin-1.2.4-8.el4.kb.src.rpm`
`14:19.28`	`z00dax`	`i dont know/cant find a munin on EL3`
`14:19.35`	`boudiccas`	`SlayerXP; why centos 3? why not centos 4.4? [the current version]`
`14:22.13`	`SlayerXP`	`because this is for an old RHEL box which will neve rbe upgraded`
`14:25.36`	`SlayerXP`	`z00dax: what exactly do I need to do with that?`
`14:29.12`	`z00dax`	`SlayerXP: if you can wait overnight, i can do the stuff and get binaries for you`
`14:29.33`	`SlayerXP`	`that'd be helpful, thanks`
`14:29.33`	`z00dax`	`essentiall, you need to install rpm-build, and then rpmbuild -ba <name of .src.rpm>`
`14:29.40`	`SlayerXP`	`if there's a one liner though...`
`14:29.46`	`z00dax`	`ok, i'll do this today when i get back`
`14:30.28`	`SlayerXP`	`cool`
`14:35.20`	`SlayerXP`	`z00dax: that doesn't build on a stock RHEL3 box`
`14:39.15`	`SlayerXP`	`seems like a shell error rather than a fundamental build flaw, though`
`14:42.20`	`keithlard`	`ibot seen cope`
`14:42.39`	`ibot`	`cope <n=3ebd3982@mozrat01.vm.bytemark.co.uk> was last seen on IRC in channel #gllug, 5d 23h 46m 9s ago, saying: 'Hi morsing'.`
`14:42.54`	`keithlard`	`frown`
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`14:43.13`	`keithlard`	`stephanb2!`
`14:44.32`	`morsing`	`stephanb2!`
`14:44.34`	`morsing`	`keithlard!`
`14:48.08`	`wethrin`	`morsing: pong`
`14:49.18`	`morsing`	`WE~THRIN`
`15:05.28`	`morsing`	`Moo`
`15:05.50`	`boudiccas`	`ibot seen George`
`15:06.03`	`ibot`	`george <i=authdeni@81.91.110.54> was last seen on IRC in channel #intimate, 33d 22h 25m 18s ago, saying: 'I think I might have scared him off'.`
`15:32.39`	`wethrin`	`hi`
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`15:46.18`	`popey`	`moo`
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`16:01.35`	`sabinef72`	`back !`
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`17:46.54`	`rhowe`	`hm... Alliance & Leicester just signed me up for internet banking... again`
`17:47.05`	`rhowe`	`I got a letter to tell me I'd be getting two more letters`
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`17:47.57`	`rhowe`	`Oh wait, only one more letter`
`18:04.04`	`wethrin`	`:)`
`18:35.14`	`andrew___`	`Just trying to uderstand the difference between SFTP and FTP over SSL`
`18:35.38`	`murb`	`they are umm completely different.`
`18:36.56`	`andrew___`	`I have now realised that but it confused the hell out of me till Idid`
`18:55.30`	`rhowe`	`andrew___: Lots of people seem to use the terms interchangeably`
`18:55.44`	`rhowe`	`andrew___: Demonstrating that they don't know what they're talking about in the process :)`
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`18:56.31`	`JAV`	`hi`
`19:08.26`	`andrew___`	`Indeed - till 1 hour ago I would have demonstrated that !`
`19:08.38`	`andrew___`	`Does FTP with SSL use the same port as FTP?`
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`20:04.59`	`sabinef72`	`evening`
`20:06.03`	`mikejw`	`hi :)`
`20:06.26`	`sabinef72`	`hi mikejw`
`20:08.19`	`mikejw`	`how's it hanging?`
`20:11.40`	`rhowe`	`... slowly`
`20:16.34`	`wethrin`	`:)`
`20:17.42`	`sabinef72`	`ohhh mozrat is not here`
`20:17.50`	`rhowe`	`Soekrisen not known for their high speed :)`
`20:18.43`	`wethrin`	`why aren't you running o'bsd?`
`20:19.40`	`rhowe`	`Haven't got a build environment`
`20:26.03`	`wethrin`	`That's easy :)`
`20:26.54`	`rhowe`	`heh`
`20:27.04`	`rhowe`	`Well I want to try emdebian on it next`
`20:28.05`	`wethrin`	`Isn't the Linux idea of an embedded system an early pentium with 32MB RAM and a 2GB disk?`
`20:28.28`	`rhowe`	`hehe, nope, emdebian will fit in 7MiB`
`20:28.42`	`wethrin`	`ITYM 7MB. HTH HAND`
`20:34.47`	`trousers`	`I concur`
`20:35.07`	`wethrin`	`Ahh Another luddite. Hurrah!`
`20:35.34`	`trousers`	`It's just a marketing tool`
`20:36.14`	`wethrin`	`It's supposed to be getting back at the marketers. But in reality in means they won`
`20:36.20`	`wethrin`	`AND I WON'T STAND FOR IT`
`20:36.37`	`trousers`	`Calm down, dear`
`20:37.29`	`trousers`	`I managed to get myself a Nintendo DS; just a bit more money and I can put Linux on it`
`20:37.35`	`wethrin`	`Woo :)`
`20:37.40`	`wethrin`	`"It's only a commercial"`
`20:37.41`	`trousers`	`Closest thing I can get to a PDA for a lot less`
`20:38.08`	`wethrin`	`ebuyer.com were selling off Palm IIIc's for about �12 each`
`20:38.18`	`trousers`	`Nobody told me this`
`20:38.31`	`trousers`	`I am outraged`
`20:39.15`	`wethrin`	`Fuck! Less than �60 for a 14" LCD display`
`20:39.20`	`wethrin`	`I remember when CRTs were that price!`
`20:40.16`	`wethrin`	`Seems they still have them`
`20:40.25`	`trousers`	`Hmm, the Palm IIIc doesn't look too nice - and a Nintendo DS has an added sparkle...`
`20:40.27`	`wethrin`	`They have 318 Palm IIICs`
`20:40.48`	`wethrin`	`How about a PalmOne Zire`
`20:41.04`	`wethrin`	`Touch under �40 inc. VAT`
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`20:41.26`	`trousers`	`Wagh! The sudden influx of choices!`
`20:42.36`	`trousers`	`Hmm, the DS is more fun - plus the fact I've already bought the DS :)`
`20:42.45`	`wethrin`	`bah`
`20:43.39`	`trousers`	`It should only cost $54 + P&P to get Linux onto it`
`20:47.22`	`trousers`	`I don't know why - but I seem to get a sense of happiness when turning "obsolete" hardware into something still useful`
`20:48.36`	`wethrin`	`DS is obsolete?`
`20:51.27`	`trousers`	`Well, nobody really seems to play with them at school any more`
`20:51.43`	`wethrin`	`Kids these days...`
`20:52.49`	`trousers`	`I picked this DS up for £30 off of a friend who invested in a DS Lite`
`20:53.01`	`wethrin`	`right`
`20:55.53`	`mikejw`	`trousers: is there wifi on those things once linux is installed?`
`21:01.25`	`rhowe`	`hmm`
`21:05.19`	`sabinef72`	`hi hali !`
`21:05.28`	`hali`	`hi sabinef72!`
`21:05.33`	`hali`	`hows it goin'`
`21:05.55`	`sabinef72`	`I'm ok and you ?`
`21:06.40`	`hali`	`good good... just a bit puzzled about google buying youtube for the crazy amount of 1.65 billion usd`
`21:06.57`	`hali`	`that must mean that my puny sites are worth a few millions each :)`
`21:11.15`	`wethrin`	`;)`
`21:11.16`	`wethrin`	`:)`
`21:11.41`	`mikejw`	`hali: depending on the bandwith requirements :P`
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`21:12.51`	`hali`	`mikejw: i allow free user uploads of images and videos... i easily use 150Gb transfer per month, and i can add a convert script on uploads to deflate any compressed data :)`
`21:13.23`	`hali`	`compressed data is so 2002`
`21:13.29`	`mikejw`	`lol`
`21:14.10`	`murray_`	`hey... I'm trying to setup a socks proxy for my browser: ssh -D 9000 remote-server.com works, I can telnet to 9000 and get a connection, but setting firefox to use localhost:9000 as it's proxy just returns blank pages. Anyone any clues or pointers?`
`21:14.30`	`trousers`	`mikejw: Not sure, let me check`
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`21:15.48`	`trousers`	`mikejw: Yes, yes I think so`
`21:16.00`	`trousers`	`http://www.dslinux.org/wiki/Using_DSLinux#Wireless_Networking`
`21:16.25`	`Erwin`	`Google buys YouTube for 1.6 billion? WTF?`
`21:17.22`	`trousers`	`$1.65 billion, mind oyu`
`21:17.24`	`trousers`	`*you`
`21:18.18`	`murray_`	`+ copyright lawsuits`
`21:18.31`	`hali`	`and, more importantly... "in stock"`
`21:18.38`	`mikejw`	`trousers: DSLinux looks fun`
`21:18.51`	`trousers`	`mikejw: Indeed`
`21:19.18`	`mikejw`	`:)`
`21:19.23`	`hali`	`anyone ever played with mythtv (or other televison playback thingies)?`
`21:19.33`	`wethrin`	`I use freevo on my xbox`
`21:19.51`	`murray_`	`so any thoughts on why my "ssh -D 9000 server" ain't cutting it?`
`21:19.51`	`hali`	`thats cheating, to easy`
`21:20.11`	`cpufreak`	`murray_: youtube has agreements to pay refferal money out of advert revnue to record labels`
`21:20.19`	`cpufreak`	`for use of copyrighted material`
`21:20.23`	`murray_`	`i'm having fun with dvbtools, dumping EPG data to xml, and parsing...`
`21:20.24`	`cpufreak`	`so its not really an issue`
`21:20.46`	`trousers`	`I'm having some fun with GNUchess`
`21:20.47`	`mikejw`	`damn them`
`21:23.26`	`murray_`	`ahh well, back to it...`
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`22:14.11`	`wethrin`	`Sounds painful`
`22:14.18`	`wethrin`	`I hope you flush afterwards`
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