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| 00:33.16 | pdr | blah, that took longer than expected |
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| 02:19.49 | pdr | what are you dong still awake Mr Howe? |
| 02:20.07 | pdr | s/dong/doing/ |
| 02:20.30 | pdr | thanks ibot |
| 02:22.01 | rhowe | pdr: Recuperating |
| 02:22.08 | rhowe | pdr: I got a call earlier |
| 02:22.22 | rhowe | pdr: $work's ISP took me out for an 'evening' |
| 02:22.43 | rhowe | pdr: It ended up in tiger tiger (horrid place, don't go there) |
| 02:24.16 | rhowe | bedtime, I think |
| 02:24.21 | rhowe | work in 5 hours |
| 02:24.52 | Erwin | Was it burning bright? |
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| 06:22.26 | morsing | 'morning |
| 06:52.14 | morsing | LeedsHK? |
| 06:58.31 | LeedsHK | yes? |
| 07:04.30 | sabinef72 | hello ! |
| 07:14.57 | morsing | sabinef72! |
| 07:15.17 | sabinef72 | hi morsing : do you feel better today ? |
| 07:15.31 | morsing | sabinef72: No - I feel sick and stressed about it :( |
| 07:16.20 | sabinef72 | morsing: call them and explain you |
| 07:16.29 | sabinef72 | you can't stay like this henrik |
| 07:16.44 | morsing | He gets very upset if I mention it |
| 07:16.57 | morsing | I went over to see his wife yesterday |
| 07:17.13 | morsing | And I'm seeing them both tonight but I don't really feel like it |
| 07:17.49 | sabinef72 | ok that's perfect |
| 07:17.51 | sabinef72 | you will see |
| 07:18.06 | morsing | What's perfect? |
| 07:18.22 | sabinef72 | to have an appointment with them |
| 07:18.26 | morsing | ? |
| 07:18.49 | morsing | I don't. We're just going to the pub for a drink. We do this all the time |
| 07:21.01 | sabinef72 | ahhhhh |
| 07:21.07 | sabinef72 | I didn't understand sorry |
| 07:21.32 | pdr | tiger tiger's not that bad |
| 07:21.39 | sabinef72 | so speak to them tonight. Explain them you feel bad. If they are really your friends they will listen you |
| 07:22.19 | morsing | sabinef72: He gets upset if I mention it |
| 07:22.34 | morsing | sabinef72: She wont give. She *has* to sit in the front seat |
| 07:22.39 | morsing | There's nothing to discuss |
| 07:22.57 | morsing | I have tried to explain how I feel |
| 07:23.00 | sabinef72 | in this case they are not really friends. Open your eyes Henrik |
| 07:23.04 | morsing | :( |
| 07:35.41 | Leeds | breakfast! |
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| 07:38.08 | mozrat_ | Morning chums |
| 07:39.15 | phearless | good morning ! |
| 07:39.29 | sabinef72 | mozrat: and me ? |
| 07:40.06 | mozrat_ | and of course you! |
| 07:40.21 | mozrat_ | bug ping-pong.. http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=386363 |
| 07:42.09 | mozrat_ | sabinef72: Nope, I didn't forget... I had "work" to do |
| 07:42.37 | sabinef72 | mozrat: I mean to say "hello" |
| 07:44.00 | mozrat_ | AH |
| 07:44.11 | mozrat_ | Hello there. You are a "chum" I already said hello to you |
| 07:44.25 | sabinef72 | no I'm not a "chum" |
| 07:44.33 | mozrat_ | Have we all said "Thank you" to Stanislav Yefgrafovich Petrov today? |
| 07:44.44 | sabinef72 | In canada a "chum" means a man |
| 07:45.46 | mozrat_ | oh really? Not in England |
| 07:46.44 | sabinef72 | oh I see |
| 07:47.17 | sabinef72 | so sorry for the slap..... |
| 07:47.53 | mozrat_ | Yeah! too right |
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| 08:05.05 | pdr | ibot chum |
| 08:06.05 | sabinef72 | thank you pdr |
| 08:06.13 | pdr | np |
| 08:06.26 | sabinef72 | I have to work more my english |
| 08:06.28 | pdr | apparently in the US it means college roommate |
| 08:06.49 | pdr | there's a lot of regional differences, usually subtle like this one |
| 08:07.01 | sabinef72 | in France that's mean nothing ! |
| 08:07.02 | sabinef72 | ah ah |
| 08:07.33 | pdr | :-) |
| 08:07.44 | phearless | a chum-gum ? |
| 08:07.53 | sabinef72 | phearless: lol |
| 08:08.00 | pdr | in Australia, I've heard it used to mean "Australian" |
| 08:08.11 | sabinef72 | phearless: un chum à la crème ? |
| 08:08.23 | pdr | mmmm... chum a la creme |
| 08:08.32 | phearless | haha |
| 08:08.45 | pdr | avec fromage brulee |
| 08:09.06 | sabinef72 | pdr: cream with cheese ? are you sure ? |
| 08:09.36 | pdr | i'm never sure |
| 08:09.50 | sabinef72 | perhaps it's english food.... |
| 08:10.01 | pdr | sounds like a northern thing |
| 08:10.24 | sabinef72 | pdr : in this case, it's morsing' food |
| 08:10.32 | hali | there is no such thing as english food.. it's abuse of things that could have been food ;) |
| 08:10.44 | sabinef72 | ouch |
| 08:10.44 | pdr | feel better? |
| 08:11.04 | sabinef72 | but it's difficult to say something friendly about english food no ? |
| 08:11.14 | sabinef72 | hali : lol |
| 08:12.20 | hali | there is cottage pie though, i don't mind that.. |
| 08:12.35 | pdr | pasty is pretty good too |
| 08:12.47 | cpufreak | pie&chips |
| 08:12.50 | pdr | there does exist good english food |
| 08:12.57 | cpufreak | sunday roast |
| 08:13.01 | hali | pasties are horrible... extremly unhealtyh and doesn't taste of petty much anything |
| 08:13.14 | cpufreak | hali: depends where you get the pasty |
| 08:13.23 | cpufreak | that is a bit of a generalisation |
| 08:13.58 | hali | possibly, i have yet to find one that i would even consider eating |
| 08:14.14 | pdr | oh, it was a troll... |
| 08:14.49 | cpufreak | having said that generally i abhor pasry |
| 08:14.59 | cpufreak | never use it when i cookk myself |
| 08:15.02 | cpufreak | pastry |
| 08:16.29 | pdr | i had a crap the other day, with ice cream and maple syrup |
| 08:16.47 | cpufreak | thats not really french food |
| 08:16.49 | cpufreak | its a snack |
| 08:17.05 | cpufreak | same as a pasty is a snack |
| 08:17.22 | hali | there is a new crepe resturant in soho... they ahve both sweet and savory crepes |
| 08:17.45 | hali | i tried the breakfast crepe with eggs and bacon.. quite alright... quite alright i must say |
| 08:18.23 | pdr | nice |
| 08:21.22 | pdr | rhowe: get more sleep |
| 08:21.29 | rhowe | pdr: Good idea |
| 08:21.36 | rhowe | pdr: Our ISP had other ideas, it seems |
| 08:22.01 | pdr | i like those sort of calls |
| 08:22.03 | rhowe | Still, didn't cost me a penny |
| 08:22.29 | rhowe | It was all sorts of UK ISP folk, mainly sponsored by fibrenet, I think |
| 08:23.15 | murb | rhowe: oh are they still atm lovers? |
| 08:25.15 | rhowe | murb: No idea |
| 08:25.57 | rhowe | murb: They just got bought by Global Crossing |
| 08:26.18 | murb | bother |
| 08:26.36 | murb | i wanted level3 to buy global crossing to form a new company called Level Crossing |
| 08:26.36 | rhowe | murb: On fibrenet's terms, apparently |
| 08:26.41 | rhowe | heh |
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| 08:38.54 | morsing | How do I reset the SA learning thingy? It's gone mental! |
| 09:02.29 | Leeds | you can delete the database if you want to start from scratch, or you can tell it to forget about (or re-learn from) certain mails |
| 09:08.23 | Lotto-Kim | someone going to the MySQL Conference? |
| 09:12.54 | Cope | is that a question? I think a few words may have been truncated. |
| 09:13.50 | Leeds | Cope: be nice |
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| 09:25.36 | morsing | goibhniu! |
| 09:25.49 | goibhniu | morsing!! |
| 09:28.42 | pdr | morsing: bless you |
| 09:38.30 | sabinef72 | Leeds: have I to slap you again today or not ? |
| 09:39.12 | Cope | ooer |
| 09:39.26 | sabinef72 | coucou Cope |
| 09:39.33 | Cope | :x sabinef72 |
| 09:40.07 | Leeds | sabinef72: probably, yes |
| 09:41.15 | sabinef72 | Leeds: I already slap you and that's not working... so I can try another thing |
| 09:42.06 | Leeds | woohoo! :-) |
| 09:42.32 | sabinef72 | we will see if that will work |
| 09:46.37 | z00dax | eveyrone say yay! for me |
| 09:47.04 | sabinef72 | hi z00dax |
| 09:47.36 | Leeds | yay! |
| 09:47.44 | Leeds | sabinef72: you know the book (and later film) Chocolat? |
| 09:47.45 | z00dax | sabinef72: hey! |
| 09:48.08 | sabinef72 | yes Le Chocolat with johnny dep |
| 09:48.28 | Leeds | the author of the book was my French teacher at school... |
| 09:48.40 | sabinef72 | congratulations ! |
| 09:49.10 | Leeds | always strange to see her picture and name around |
| 09:49.39 | sabinef72 | I can understand |
| 09:49.42 | sabinef72 | I love this movie |
| 09:49.59 | sabinef72 | is she french ? |
| 09:50.03 | Leeds | half |
| 09:50.18 | Leeds | but born and raised in Yorkshire :-) |
| 09:50.58 | sabinef72 | ok |
| 09:51.14 | sabinef72 | you must write her a letter |
| 09:51.24 | Leeds | ? |
| 09:51.41 | sabinef72 | to say her congratulation |
| 09:52.00 | sabinef72 | you know her. Why don't you write her ? |
| 09:52.41 | Leeds | I don't know her that well - I was one of her pupils |
| 09:52.55 | sabinef72 | ohhh |
| 09:54.35 | Leeds | better to say, I know her, she might vaguely remember me |
| 09:54.48 | z00dax | has anyone even seen a KVM which has DVI-usb-usb for V-K-M ? |
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| 09:55.39 | sabinef72 | if I were you, I'll write her in spite of everything |
| 09:56.01 | Leeds | there was one guy in my class who I knew kept in touch with her... I should ask him |
| 09:56.12 | sabinef72 | yes why not |
| 09:56.15 | Leeds | she was also into role-playing games, ran the club at school |
| 09:56.33 | sabinef72 | sure she will be happy to have news from an old pupil |
| 09:56.46 | Leeds | nah, probably not |
| 09:57.05 | sabinef72 | you will never know if you don't write her |
| 09:57.35 | sabinef72 | that will only cost you 5 minutes and a stamp ! then you will see if she will answer you |
| 09:57.35 | Leeds | true |
| 09:57.59 | Leeds | I'll put it on the list of "French women to send post to" :-) |
| 09:58.14 | sabinef72 | is the list is long ? |
| 09:58.26 | Leeds | well, there are two items on it now |
| 09:58.31 | Leeds | 1.5 items, really |
| 09:58.52 | Leeds | of course you're at the top |
| 09:59.21 | sabinef72 | :-) |
| 10:06.13 | z00dax | Leeds: 1.5 ? a full woman, and a half ? |
| 10:06.22 | Leeds | z00dax: yes |
| 10:06.28 | z00dax | hrm |
| 10:06.33 | Leeds | popey: you are being discussed, in case you didn't know |
| 10:06.51 | Leeds | z00dax: a fully French woman (AFAIK) and a half-French one |
| 10:06.51 | z00dax | ah right |
| 10:07.14 | popey | I didn't |
| 10:07.58 | Leeds | to be more accurate, your point is being discussed - there are very few people calling you a troll |
| 10:08.17 | popey | cool, that's good to hear. thanks for the heads up |
| 10:10.33 | popey | i wonder if my feed will get pulled from the lugradio planet :) |
| 10:11.13 | Leeds | not seen any suggestion of that |
| 10:12.18 | Leeds | I could suggest it if you like :-) |
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| 10:16.45 | cbz | gah |
| 10:33.56 | popey | :) |
| 10:34.07 | z00dax | gah gah |
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| 10:40.41 | morsing | huw-l! |
| 10:51.47 | huw-l | morning |
| 10:57.40 | zOOz | hi |
| 10:58.20 | zOOz | what linux live distro can be used for wireless security testing, etc? |
| 10:58.32 | morsing | m |
| 10:59.15 | zOOz | i heard about BackTrack |
| 11:00.08 | Leeds | time to try firefox 2.0rc1 |
| 11:02.11 | z00dax | its nice |
| 11:03.33 | Leeds | apart from - hopefully! - less memory leaks, what should I be looking for? |
| 11:04.31 | z00dax | faster render's |
| 11:04.43 | z00dax | and xul apps wont crash the system that much |
| 11:08.27 | Leeds | and extensions not working? |
| 11:09.48 | z00dax | i think a large number of them need to be rebuilt for 2.x |
| 11:10.00 | z00dax | couple of the api calls changed |
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| 12:15.31 | mozrat | hey z00dax |
| 12:16.33 | z00dax | hola mozrat |
| 12:18.16 | mozrat | Are you going to be there on Saturday? |
| 12:19.45 | Cope | hellom |
| 12:21.28 | z00dax | err. no - not me |
| 12:21.55 | z00dax | i am not much of a demonstrator |
| 12:22.01 | z00dax | hey Cope |
| 12:23.12 | z0d | This inofity feature seems promising. |
| 12:24.10 | mozrat | z00dax: come and be objectionable with the rest of,, me |
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| 12:33.49 | morsing | Erwin! |
| 12:36.08 | phearless | which OSS backup solutions are used in companies ? |
| 12:36.17 | phearless | I heard about Amanda |
| 12:36.24 | cpufreak | fuck oss |
| 12:36.26 | cpufreak | get net.backup |
| 12:36.32 | cpufreak | or networker. |
| 12:37.01 | cbz | Get a netapp |
| 12:37.05 | phearless | my boss is so greedy I will never manage to get him to buy a backup system |
| 12:37.13 | cbz | Greedy for what? |
| 12:37.15 | murb | get no life. |
| 12:37.17 | z0d | phearless: There's also a file-sharing network specialized for backups. |
| 12:37.24 | cpufreak | cbz: netapps aren't good for backups. |
| 12:37.25 | cpufreak | they fail |
| 12:37.30 | cpufreak | http://badger.ing.me.uk/wah.txt |
| 12:37.32 | cpufreak | ^^ SEE |
| 12:37.43 | cpufreak | 6 days since opening the case with them, its still not resolved. |
| 12:37.45 | Lotto-Kim | zmanda |
| 12:37.48 | cbz | Heh |
| 12:37.53 | rhowe | hm, fun - http://blog.corunet.com/english/the-definitive-heatmap |
| 12:37.55 | cpufreak | tape is da future. |
| 12:38.05 | cpufreak | actually |
| 12:38.05 | murb | urgle nfs |
| 12:38.06 | cpufreak | oops |
| 12:38.08 | cpufreak | thats the wrong thign |
| 12:38.18 | phearless | I did not mean greedy but stingy |
| 12:38.18 | cpufreak | http://badger.ing.me.uk/fruxed.txt |
| 12:38.22 | cpufreak | is the fucked netapp |
| 12:38.26 | cpufreak | the other thing is cause by another netapp bug |
| 12:38.59 | phearless | <Lotto-Kim> zmanda <- yes amanda is the one that look interesting |
| 12:39.15 | cpufreak | phearless: just get a keygen |
| 12:40.01 | phearless | keygen are not very professionnal |
| 12:41.18 | phearless | most of the companies use commercial backup solutions ? |
| 12:43.41 | cpufreak | depends how much you value you data. |
| 12:44.10 | cpufreak | If you don't value it all, back up to /dev/null |
| 12:44.25 | cpufreak | and restore from /dev/urandom |
| 12:44.31 | phearless | haha |
| 12:44.45 | cpufreak | if you value it a little bit, get another box, and sync the data on the disks |
| 12:45.06 | phearless | the data is not ultra-very-critical but should be backup'ed |
| 12:45.29 | phearless | I am installing amanda today in fact |
| 12:45.29 | cpufreak | there's loads of places who do remote backups these days. |
| 12:45.36 | Lotto-Kim | phearless: take a look at arkeia smartbackup , its not so expensive. http://www.arkeia.com/products/arkeiasmartbackup/index.php |
| 12:45.37 | cpufreak | which providing you have ADSLmax or sdsl, or a leased line |
| 12:45.51 | cpufreak | is fine |
| 12:46.05 | cpufreak | and you don't need to worry about taking tapes offsite |
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| 12:46.55 | cpufreak | I was going to set something up using Legato to do that, in my spare time, but haven't yet had any spare time |
| 12:47.14 | cpufreak | but figure it'd be a handy way of staying concurrent with legato, as otherwise my qualifications will lapse |
| 12:47.28 | phearless | Lotto-Kim: I heard that arkeia sucks, especially the interfaces |
| 12:47.59 | murb | i rember arkeia used to create one file per backed up file for meta data. |
| 12:48.15 | murb | this was on a system that had directories > 500k entries. |
| 12:48.26 | phearless | cpufreak: what is legato ? www.legato.com ? |
| 12:48.59 | cpufreak | emc now but yeh |
| 12:49.01 | cpufreak | its not so cheap |
| 12:49.06 | cpufreak | *consults pricelist* |
| 12:50.12 | cpufreak | how many slots in your tape library? |
| 12:50.15 | Lotto-Kim | i got backup of 500GB with arkeia now, around 9mil files, works without any problem |
| 12:54.31 | phearless | we do not have tapes |
| 12:54.40 | phearless | we got 2 usb hard drives |
| 12:54.54 | phearless | 100G each |
| 12:54.56 | hali | thats two tape drive licenses then, seens as vtl's :) |
| 12:55.03 | hali | in networker terms |
| 12:55.05 | phearless | and around 40G of data to backup |
| 12:55.06 | Lotto-Kim | i use virtual tape devices |
| 13:01.54 | z00dax | how about maya's stuff ? |
| 13:08.45 | z00dax | i guess noone is using mayastor vtl then ? |
| 13:15.03 | Leeds | House++ |
| 13:15.37 | z0d | Leeds: The series? |
| 13:16.42 | Leeds | yes |
| 13:16.54 | Leeds | well, the doctor as well, I suppose :-) |
| 13:17.28 | z0d | I've seen series 1. |
| 13:17.45 | Leeds | I just watched 3x04 |
| 13:18.22 | z0d | Hugh Laurie is British. Though I suppose you already know it. |
| 13:18.51 | Leeds | duh |
| 13:18.56 | mozrat | z0d: that was a title of a blog post on Planet Debian today.. or is this a big coincidence? |
| 13:19.29 | z0d | mozrat: Which one? |
| 13:20.00 | mozrat | http://xana.scru.org/bamamba/freedomroni.html |
| 13:21.06 | z0d | Wow. Didn't know about the post. |
| 13:27.28 | mozrat | z0d: freaky! |
| 13:29.44 | z0d | They're not _exactly_ the same though. |
| 13:32.01 | mozrat | No, not at all. But it was just weird you mentioned it |
| 13:33.51 | z0d | I mentioned it because Leeds mentioned it. <-: The movie is American. |
| 13:34.33 | mozrat | Ah, I didn't see Leeds mention that |
| 13:45.44 | phearless | <hali> thats two tape drive licenses then, seens as vtl's :) <-- thks, I just read http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Virtual_Tape_Library |
| 13:48.19 | cbz | gah |
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| 14:12.32 | z0d | http://www.allmydata.com/ would be reasonable, but they only have clients for Windows. Also the ratio isn't very good: 1:10. |
| 14:13.10 | cbz | AFAICK that is based on mojonation/hivecache |
| 14:21.03 | goibhniu | fwiw I heard a pretty in depth review of http://www.bacula.org/ this morning on bsdtalk http://bsdtalk.blogspot.com/ |
| 14:21.39 | rhowe | goibhniu: I use bacula here, it's not so bad |
| 14:22.40 | goibhniu | they were raving about it ... I haven't tried it myself tho |
| 14:24.43 | rhowe | I moderate the mailing lists :) |
| 14:25.02 | rhowe | (less frequently than I ought to) |
| 14:27.03 | goibhniu | nice one rhowe! http://cisx1.uma.maine.edu/~wbackman/bsdtalk/bsdtalk067.ogg if you want to hear the episode |
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| 14:54.30 | phearless | the sound is horrible |
| 15:18.15 | morsing | Lemon |
| 15:20.22 | Lotto-Kim | beer festival:D |
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| 15:43.25 | Leeds | hmm... time to get dressed... got people coming to look at the flat re: renting |
| 15:46.46 | Leeds | "current contains a fat man in a bathrobe" may not be the world's greatest selling point... |
| 15:48.31 | murb | Leeds: well you'll never know til you try it. |
| 15:51.09 | skugg | <PROTECTED> |
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| 16:19.43 | Leeds | wow, that's tiring |
| 16:19.48 | Leeds | skugg: renting my place in London out when I move back to HK |
| 16:20.12 | Leeds | a couple with a little girl - the agent chatted to the couple, I entertained the kid with my mad juggling skillz |
| 16:22.48 | boudiccas | anyone knows whats happening with gmail atm? for about 15 minutes now I've had this message appear "We are sorry but Google Mail is temporarily unavailable. We are currently working to fix the problem. Please try logging in to your account in a few minutes." |
| 16:23.32 | Leeds | boudiccas: works for me |
| 16:23.44 | boudiccas | odd! |
| 16:24.50 | Leeds | with me? |
| 16:24.55 | sabinef72 | hm ? |
| 16:25.17 | sabinef72 | noooooo |
| 16:25.23 | sabinef72 | I'm not angry, I'm hungry ! |
| 16:25.44 | Leeds | and what's the third English word which ends with -gry? |
| 16:25.50 | Leeds | :-) |
| 16:26.22 | murb | sabinef72: or are you hungarian? |
| 16:26.27 | sabinef72 | I can't see the difference of pronunciation between these 2 words, so I always mix them |
| 16:26.50 | sabinef72 | Leeds: I dunno |
| 16:27.06 | skugg | sabinef72: are you french? |
| 16:27.08 | sabinef72 | murb : no it seems I'm your neighbourg |
| 16:27.19 | sabinef72 | skugg: yes why ? |
| 16:27.36 | murb | sabinef72: is that like a luxembourg? |
| 16:27.55 | skugg | about the only thing i (think I) know about french is that it has silent 'h's... |
| 16:28.00 | cbz | Heh |
| 16:28.04 | sabinef72 | murb: look, France is the neighbourg or belgium ! |
| 16:28.19 | boudiccas | ah, its back |
| 16:28.26 | sabinef72 | skugg: what ? |
| 16:28.30 | cbz | what's back? |
| 16:28.34 | boudiccas | gmail |
| 16:28.40 | cbz | okay |
| 16:28.45 | murb | sabinef72: well i live in oberfranken. |
| 16:28.56 | murb | and the bloody french sold this area to the barvarians |
| 16:28.57 | sabinef72 | murb: where is it ? |
| 16:28.59 | skugg | sabinef72: ... don't mind me. |
| 16:29.21 | sabinef72 | skugg: can you explain more, I didn't understand |
| 16:30.17 | z0d | "Hungary" doesn't end with "gry". |
| 16:31.16 | skugg | sabinef72: angry and hungry become very similar if you drop the 'h' from hungry. it was nothing more sinister than that. |
| 16:32.08 | sabinef72 | skugg: I really need an english teacher |
| 16:33.54 | Leeds | sabinef72: http://snopes.com/language/puzzlers/gry.asp |
| 16:34.15 | murb | sabinef72: do you have a telephone? |
| 16:35.10 | sabinef72 | murb: yes of course |
| 16:36.17 | cbz | The h isn't silent |
| 16:36.18 | z0d | These are all obsolete words. |
| 16:36.20 | cbz | Not totally |
| 16:38.02 | sabinef72 | murb: yes why ? |
| 16:38.15 | Leeds | okay, anyone got any advice as to how to get sound with the (yes, nasty) flash plugin on firefox? |
| 16:38.48 | z0d | Leeds: You have to stop all applications which open the sound device and restart Firefox. |
| 16:39.03 | z0d | The Linux Flash player is using OSS. |
| 16:39.14 | Leeds | including the mixer? |
| 16:39.39 | antiphase | It uses /dev/dsp |
| 16:40.23 | antiphase | The only way I've found round it is to use a proper sound card with hardware mixing support |
| 16:40.31 | antiphase | like a SB Live! or Audigy |
| 16:40.44 | cbz | Heh |
| 16:41.17 | Leeds | yeah, this is onboard sound on a laptop... can't alsa do mixing with oss? |
| 16:41.22 | z0d | The only way would be to use a reasonable Flash plug-in. Though we have to wait for Adobe. |
| 16:41.27 | Leeds | I thought that was a solver problem nowadays? |
| 16:41.39 | z0d | Leeds: Do you have OSS emulation enabled? |
| 16:42.09 | Leeds | sure |
| 16:43.30 | Leeds | ahem... permissions... |
| 16:43.51 | Leeds | /dev/dsp* and /dev/mixer* were 644 - changed them to 666 and I've got sound |
| 16:44.37 | *** join/#gllug angelchild (i=arika@jamesmorse.plus.com) |
| 16:45.31 | z0d | Evil. |
| 16:45.48 | z0d | Usually you can get away with adding the appropriate users to the audio group. |
| 16:46.03 | PussInBoots | hi any idea which software can convert html pages to jpg in batches? |
| 16:46.56 | z0d | PussInBoots: I use "Screen grab!" for Firefox, though it doesn't convert in batches. |
| 16:47.14 | Leeds | z0d: I could have done that too |
| 16:47.16 | PussInBoots | yeah i cant do it manually |
| 16:47.30 | Leeds | PussInBoots: is the page complex? |
| 16:47.44 | PussInBoots | mostly text |
| 16:47.51 | PussInBoots | might have some graphs |
| 16:47.54 | cbz | Is there a command line argument that will invoke a firefox function that can be used to do that sort of thing? |
| 16:48.21 | Leeds | the problem is that to convert to HTML, automatically, you need a full html renderer, so nothing except a browser (or something embedding a browser engine) is going to be able to do it |
| 16:48.47 | PussInBoots | hm isnt there something like doxygen or so |
| 16:48.52 | PussInBoots | generating html docs |
| 16:48.53 | Leeds | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:48.58 | cbz | http://pearlcrescent.com/products/pagesaver/ |
| 16:49.02 | cbz | There you go |
| 16:49.18 | Leeds | that's the other way around - that's taking structured documents and converting *to* HTML, which is what I said, but not what I meant :-) |
| 16:49.46 | z0d | cbz: firefox -remote ... |
| 16:49.55 | cbz | see above |
| 16:49.55 | PussInBoots | i dont use firefox |
| 16:49.58 | PussInBoots | bloatware |
| 16:50.09 | PussInBoots | <- opera only since 5.0 |
| 16:50.18 | PussInBoots | :) |
| 16:50.21 | angelchild | pfft |
| 16:50.26 | angelchild | opera's bloated as hell |
| 16:50.27 | cbz | Code up an opera extension then |
| 16:50.28 | angelchild | use links |
| 16:50.35 | z0d | Opera is nice, especially the zoom function. Too bad it's not open |
| 16:50.48 | angelchild | xD |
| 16:51.03 | cbz | And/or stop complaining. |
| 16:51.05 | Leeds | I've looked at opera a couple of times... found the interface far too cluttered... far too qt-ish... and couldn't find any easy way to block ads |
| 16:51.06 | PussInBoots | i mean there's gotta be a way without a browser |
| 16:51.15 | cbz | The browser is best |
| 16:51.15 | PussInBoots | did i complain? |
| 16:51.28 | cbz | Because otherwise you'll run into a whole different set of rendering bugs |
| 16:51.32 | PussInBoots | Leeds: use privoxy |
| 16:51.52 | PussInBoots | k |
| 16:51.55 | Leeds | no - I want my browser to do it |
| 16:51.57 | cbz | privoxy is clumsy, compared to adblock in the browser |
| 16:52.11 | PussInBoots | the interface is only as cluttered as u make it |
| 16:52.24 | PussInBoots | it's completely configurable |
| 16:52.41 | Leeds | but it is very qt-ish, and I don't like that |
| 16:52.59 | PussInBoots | also a lot more stable and faster than firefox |
| 16:53.21 | PussInBoots | yeah i cant argue with tastes |
| 16:53.32 | PussInBoots | though there are skins |
| 16:54.04 | PussInBoots | so here again you can get the complete firefox look if you really insist |
| 16:54.27 | sabinef72 | angelchild !!!!!!!!!! |
| 16:54.32 | Leeds | I'm not wedded to the firefox look - but I don't like the qt look |
| 16:54.49 | Leeds | I just generally prefer the gtk look - although I don't use either gnome or kde |
| 16:56.24 | goibhniu | Leeds http://marginalhacks.com/Hacks/html2jpg/ ? |
| 16:57.22 | PussInBoots | http://www.easysw.com/htmldoc/ |
| 16:57.37 | PussInBoots | i think i got a batchable one |
| 16:58.05 | Leeds | http://www.hackdiary.com/archives/000055.html or some such might be more my sort of thing |
| 16:58.24 | Leeds | PussInBoots: $69? |
| 16:58.48 | PussInBoots | oops |
| 16:59.00 | PussInBoots | weird |
| 16:59.10 | PussInBoots | coz i'm getting it FREE right now from apt |
| 16:59.20 | PussInBoots | hehe |
| 16:59.30 | Leeds | free demo? |
| 16:59.35 | Leeds | or you're getting something else |
| 16:59.57 | PussInBoots | http://www.htmldoc.org/ |
| 17:00.47 | PussInBoots | available on any good repository |
| 17:08.49 | Leeds | http://www.idtprime.com |
| 17:23.47 | *** join/#gllug JAV (n=jose@84.77.101.38) |
| 17:24.03 | JAV | good afternoon |
| 17:35.48 | z0d | Hello. |
| 17:38.01 | Leeds | I assume that's the same Colt as in the UK? |
| 17:38.10 | Leeds | and that you're not actually working in Madrid? |
| 17:39.07 | Leeds | congrats, anyway ;-) |
| 17:40.58 | JAV | it's the same colt, I signed this morning and I start on monday |
| 17:41.04 | JAV | thanks :D |
| 17:45.53 | Leeds | but not in Madrid? |
| 17:47.23 | JAV | yes, I'm in madrid since yesterday, to stay |
| 17:48.55 | Leeds | have you lived there before? |
| 17:50.40 | Leeds | just interested what you think about moving to the 'big city' - it's a common issue in London |
| 17:50.45 | JAV | several weeks with friends, nothing serious |
| 17:51.15 | JAV | that's my move to the big city, yes :) |
| 17:53.00 | JAV | I've done lots of interesting things, but not for a big enterprise |
| 18:05.23 | JAV | I think it's necessary if you want high level jobs |
| 18:06.36 | JAV | maybe programming is different, you can do really great things in your room (and programming too) |
| 18:07.12 | wethrin | Yes, but programming in your room can be quite different to programming in a proper team |
| 18:09.08 | z0d | Programming in a team was a shock for me in the first months. |
| 18:10.14 | *** part/#gllug cbz (i=chriseb@vortex.ukshells.co.uk) |
| 18:10.37 | *** join/#gllug mikejw_ (n=mikejw@81-178-80-96.dsl.pipex.com) |
| 18:17.05 | JAV | you can have a team while working in your room :) (I get the idea) |
| 18:18.50 | Leeds | I've worked in a team, I've worked by myself - I prefer the tema |
| 18:20.35 | JAV | I suppose motivation, productivity and clean code are improved working in a team |
| 18:21.18 | JAV | I did it some years ago in a very light development |
| 18:22.23 | z0d | Clean code and clean semantics weren't the crowning jewel of the team work I took part in. |
| 18:23.20 | *** join/#gllug cope (n=cope@cpc2-stok3-0-0-cust727.bagu.cable.ntl.com) |
| 18:23.28 | cope | mozrat: are you there? |
| 18:23.43 | z0d | If you work with mediocre programmers, it'll be a nightmare |
| 18:25.57 | Leeds | on the other hand, if you work with good people, it's hard work but rewarding, and the best way to learn |
| 18:26.13 | z0d | Indeed. |
| 18:28.08 | Leeds | hmm... rush down to Brent Cross to buy an iPod, or do it tomorrow? |
| 18:28.41 | z00dax | never delay the acqusition of a toy |
| 18:28.57 | Leeds | it's for my dad, and I'm not going to give it to him until the weekend anyway |
| 18:29.22 | Leeds | or go to Regent Street, which is open until 9? :-) |
| 18:29.30 | z00dax | in which case : a true geek is a lazy geek. Never attempt something in a hurry, specially not something that can be safely postponed |
| 18:30.18 | Leeds | on the other hand, I could pick up tea on the way home... |
| 18:30.37 | Leeds | it's not rush rush - got 30 minutes, and could be there in about 15 |
| 18:30.51 | wethrin | Leeds: Get a local friendly student to pick it up for you |
| 18:31.03 | Leeds | wethrin: uh, what? |
| 18:31.53 | wethrin | I think Apple do their discounts at the Apple Store, not just online |
| 18:32.07 | Leeds | ah, see what you mean... interesting point |
| 18:32.42 | z0d | Apple and discount are rather orthogonal words. <-: |
| 18:33.25 | Leeds | not sure how much discount there is on nano |
| 18:34.27 | wethrin | Probably only about £20 or £30 |
| 18:35.13 | Leeds | 10%-15%? |
| 18:35.27 | wethrin | about that, yeah |
| 18:36.00 | Leeds | bugger it, I'll go tomorrow - here or in town |
| 18:36.07 | Leeds | probably can't find a student though |
| 18:36.52 | wethrin | Depends if you can prod mikejw_ |
| 18:36.52 | Leeds | and I might just get pizza in :-) |
| 18:36.56 | angelchild | yeah, can't think of any students |
| 18:36.57 | wethrin | yay! |
| 18:37.04 | wethrin | AC! |
| 18:37.08 | angelchild | wethrin! |
| 18:37.20 | mikejw_ | I'm here! |
| 18:37.25 | wethrin | mike! |
| 18:37.34 | mikejw_ | lo |
| 18:37.42 | wethrin | You still doing this w'min Compsoc thing? |
| 18:37.50 | mikejw_ | well.. |
| 18:37.53 | Leeds | he's not in London anymore, unless he is... |
| 18:38.07 | mikejw_ | I still want to be involved some how |
| 18:38.08 | wethrin | Leeds: Weren't you thinking of iamai? |
| 18:38.37 | Leeds | wethrin: don't think so |
| 18:38.37 | mikejw_ | but I'm not at wmin anymore |
| 18:38.43 | wethrin | ah |
| 18:38.45 | mikejw_ | :) |
| 18:38.48 | Leeds | mikejw_: weren't you moving to Bath or Bournemouth or somewhere? |
| 18:39.09 | mikejw_ | it starts with a B, Brighton |
| 18:39.13 | Leeds | Bognor? |
| 18:39.21 | mikejw_ | ^^ |
| 18:39.22 | Leeds | Bristol? |
| 18:39.29 | mikejw_ | Brighton |
| 18:39.40 | Leeds | same difference... |
| 18:39.53 | Leeds | so you're not in London tomorrow to fraudulently buy a discounted iPod? |
| 18:40.45 | mikejw_ | wow I'm afraid not, but I can csend a quick email to some chums that could be |
| 18:40.50 | mikejw_ | *send |
| 18:41.13 | wethrin | mikejw_: Well, Durham Compsoc are currently pondering a visit to the Science Museum to their computer game exhibit. It could be nice to meet up with some other Compsocs |
| 18:41.18 | Leeds | sure - would go halves on the discount with them :-) |
| 18:41.41 | mikejw_ | wethrin: that would be cool :) |
| 18:42.01 | mikejw_ | Leeds: sorry how does the deal work exactly? |
| 18:42.30 | Leeds | mikejw_: well, AFAIK, you go into Apple Store, present student card, buy discounted products... |
| 18:42.40 | Leeds | I should check that it works over-the-counter... |
| 18:42.52 | mikejw_ | oh I see |
| 18:42.55 | mikejw_ | :D |
| 18:43.40 | mikejw_ | I'd gladly give it a go for you next time I'm in town |
| 18:44.04 | Leeds | this is to be done before the weekend |
| 18:44.15 | mikejw_ | oh |
| 18:44.17 | mikejw_ | erm |
| 18:44.42 | Leeds | i.e. tomorrow |
| 18:45.04 | mikejw_ | I'll email my buddies. what time will you be around? |
| 18:45.29 | Leeds | dunno... daytime |
| 18:45.39 | Leeds | not too early morning, but otherwise, I'm pretty flexible... |
| 18:45.46 | Leeds | let me call the store in town and check it works |
| 18:47.32 | mikejw_ | ok |
| 18:48.19 | Leeds | yeah, bring in 'valid ID' - NUS, I assume - and get discount |
| 18:49.52 | mikejw_ | it might be worth checking if valid ID = NUS |
| 18:50.20 | Leeds | what else would it be? |
| 18:50.26 | Leeds | since I asked about student prices |
| 18:50.33 | rhowe | uni ID card? |
| 18:50.36 | rhowe | ISIC? |
| 18:50.54 | Leeds | does anyone actually accept ISIC for that sort of thing anymore? :-) |
| 18:51.28 | mikejw_ | dunoo |
| 18:51.51 | Leeds | mikejw_: okay, here's the proposal - I will meet someone at the store on Regent Street tomorrow, buy an iPod nano 8GB and go halves on any discount - I know they do educational pricing, but it's up to them to get/maximise any discount... |
| 18:52.30 | Leeds | sound fair? |
| 18:54.05 | JAV | don't buy an ipod |
| 18:54.23 | Leeds | JAV: why not? what is better for my dad, a confirmed luddite? |
| 18:54.24 | mikejw_ | sounds good to me :) |
| 18:54.37 | mikejw_ | for the retail experience alone ;) |
| 18:55.19 | JAV | I can't remember the brand, but it's cheaper and tinyer |
| 18:55.26 | JAV | blue sense? |
| 18:55.29 | JAV | let me see |
| 18:56.28 | JAV | blu:sens |
| 18:56.49 | Leeds | that's 8GB flash, cheaper, and at least as usable? |
| 18:57.10 | Leeds | and available over-the-counter in London with a decent support system behind it? |
| 18:58.18 | JAV | I think they are in whole europe, support.... usb-storage |
| 18:58.53 | JAV | pretty text screen |
| 18:59.09 | JAV | and they have radio |
| 19:00.07 | JAV | http://www.ascomtec.com/productos.php?categoria=13&producto=114 |
| 19:00.30 | Leeds | 8GB? |
| 19:00.47 | Leeds | that says 256/512/1GB |
| 19:00.48 | JAV | :) it's tiny |
| 19:01.02 | boudiccas | ah, beer! |
| 19:01.40 | Leeds | he currently has an iRiver, which he hates the interface on - he's got about 6.5GB of MP3s on it... I've offered to take it off his hands, because I'd like to play with rockbox, but he needs something else - also, he got a mac this week, my old one |
| 19:03.48 | JAV | I don't know about prices, but with that background maybe ipod is a good idea |
| 19:11.42 | JAV | do ipod nano is a flash device? |
| 19:11.50 | JAV | ok |
| 19:12.05 | JAV | yes |
| 19:14.45 | Leeds | yes |
| 19:14.56 | Leeds | doubled in capacity a couple of weeks back |
| 19:50.40 | boudiccas | ibot wake popey |
| 19:50.42 | ibot | ACTION throws a barrel-full of ice water on popey and shouts "GOOD MORNING!!!!" |
| 19:51.32 | boudiccas | popey; can yyou come to #klug please? we'd laike the topic changed |
| 19:51.49 | boudiccas | stone me! me spellings going |
| 20:07.31 | morsing | :D |
| 20:09.08 | mozrat | ping cope |
| 20:10.03 | mozrat | boudiccas: are you on the mailing list for KLUG? |
| 20:10.15 | popey | \o/ mozrat |
| 20:10.49 | z0d | ibot: klug? |
| 20:10.54 | popey | Kent LUG |
| 20:11.00 | popey | but then you knew that :) |
| 20:11.04 | mozrat | yo popey - your second blog post made me chuckle tonight |
| 20:11.12 | popey | oh? |
| 20:11.25 | popey | <hr> ? |
| 20:11.30 | mozrat | Just reading the title.. |
| 20:11.50 | popey | :) |
| 20:12.02 | mozrat | Does anyone have a Digg.com account? |
| 20:12.08 | popey | yes |
| 20:12.10 | popey | :) |
| 20:12.20 | Leeds | sure |
| 20:12.35 | mozrat | goody :-) |
| 20:13.46 | Leeds | okay, this had better be a good-quality encode - when you're running at 6.22fps on a 1.66GHz CPU, it's doing a lot of work per frame |
| 20:14.07 | boudiccas | mozrat; yes |
| 20:14.32 | Leeds | mozrat: so, give us your URL |
| 20:17.28 | mozrat | Only if you feel the submission has merit of course :-) |
| 20:17.37 | popey | is it interesting? |
| 20:17.44 | mozrat | No |
| 20:17.45 | mozrat | http://digg.com/political_opinion/Anti_DRM_demo_in_Central_London_this_Saturday |
| 20:18.01 | popey | i told a bloke at work about that |
| 20:18.03 | popey | his answer.. |
| 20:18.05 | mozrat | Just doing the footwork for the organiser of this event on Sat.. he is stacked out at work |
| 20:18.08 | popey | "I think apple shouild be applauded" |
| 20:18.25 | popey | apparently for revitalising the mobile music industry |
| 20:18.39 | popey | asked him if he had one or had any experience of DRM restricting his rights and he said no |
| 20:18.44 | popey | "try it" I said |
| 20:18.47 | mozrat | The DRM argument is a hard one to put across |
| 20:18.53 | popey | indeed |
| 20:18.55 | mozrat | or the Anti-DRM argument, rather |
| 20:19.01 | popey | dugg |
| 20:19.05 | mozrat | ty |
| 20:19.15 | Leeds | ditto |
| 20:19.33 | mozrat | ty again |
| 20:20.03 | mozrat | God knows how |
| 20:20.18 | Leeds | I've submitted once before, didn't get to the front page |
| 20:21.00 | mozrat | In fact one was stolen from z0d |
| 20:21.04 | mozrat | Grr, z00dax |
| 20:21.39 | morsing | mozzie! |
| 20:22.00 | mozrat | hey morsing! |
| 20:23.00 | z0d | z00dax: I think one of us should change his nick. And I firmly believe that it should be you. <-: |
| 20:23.03 | z0d | (just kidding) |
| 20:23.48 | mozrat | heh |
| 20:23.56 | mozrat | z0d: morsing and I get it all the time too |
| 20:24.47 | Leeds | morsing: but you and him are the same person, really |
| 20:25.06 | Leeds | if you were different people, you'd both have been in the pub last week |
| 20:25.15 | z0d | Hehe. |
| 20:25.39 | mozrat | Leeds: I know. I've never seen morsing and I in the same place at the same time. I am suspicious |
| 20:26.59 | z0d | What should I say? I've never met z00dax or zOOz. |
| 20:28.54 | morsing | Uhmmm... Seriously? I thought z0d was z00dax |
| 20:29.02 | morsing | And zOOz |
| 20:29.08 | mozrat | I thought I was you! |
| 20:31.09 | z0d | I'm definitely, absolutely positively not z00dax or zOOz. I have evidences. |
| 20:31.23 | mozrat | z0d: do you have a blog or personal website? |
| 20:31.31 | z0d | http://y99k.com/ |
| 20:31.35 | z0d | Not much to see though. |
| 20:32.35 | Leeds | oh no, a lisper |
| 20:32.44 | morsing | Lisp rules |
| 20:33.03 | morsing | (sorry, ((taht's)(lisp (rules)))))) |
| 20:33.09 | z0d | What constitutes a Lisper? Are the black sheeps here? <-: |
| 20:33.38 | z0d | they* |
| 20:34.02 | Leeds | nah, it's just me who doesn't like it/them/you |
| 20:34.07 | murb | morsing: don't you need to (('quote)('that)) |
| 20:35.39 | Erwin | (eq (rules-p 'lisp) t) ? |
| 20:36.01 | Leeds | print "list sucks" |
| 20:36.09 | z0d | That's the same as (rules-p 'lisp) |
| 20:36.44 | boudiccas | mozrat; could you do me a favour please and email me a copy of the leaflet that you handed out on SFD re GLLUG? |
| 20:37.03 | z0d | Leeds: You don't have to hate me because I know some Lisp. |
| 20:37.04 | rhowe | murb: Have you been advertising on craigslist again? http://hem.passagen.se/rauz/210015155.html |
| 20:37.33 | z00dax | http://i.today.reuters.com/Pictures/galleries/Stories/632914814244218750/Previews/logp27090610.jpg |
| 20:37.37 | z00dax | they got tux |
| 20:37.49 | murb | rhowe: i think my wife would be upset if i had. |
| 20:38.03 | Leeds | z00dax: I don't *have* to - it's a matter of choice |
| 20:38.29 | z0d | Yes. Free as in speech. |
| 20:38.29 | Leeds | z00dax: those bastards! |
| 20:38.39 | mozrat | boudiccas: sure thing.. it is largish though |
| 20:38.52 | mozrat | I'll post it on my site and you can download it |
| 20:39.01 | boudiccas | k, ty |
| 20:39.16 | mozrat | boudiccas: do you want the editable source or the PDF? |
| 20:39.43 | boudiccas | editable source please so i can cannablise it for KLUG |
| 20:39.46 | rhowe | murb: Perhaps so |
| 20:39.51 | boudiccas | :) |
| 20:40.28 | Leeds | "Hong Kong officials have seized about 6,000 live chickens being smuggled into the territory from mainland China, the government said." |
| 20:40.48 | rhowe | That's a lot of chickens to stuff up your jumper |
| 20:41.50 | Leeds | hidden compartments in briefcases, perhaps |
| 20:42.25 | boudiccas | no, they walked |
| 20:42.59 | Leeds | why did the chickens cross the border? |
| 20:43.08 | boudiccas | one or two they'd have got away with, but not 6,000 going through passport controls |
| 20:43.24 | boudiccas | to get to the KFC :) |
| 20:44.00 | Leeds | penty of KFC on both sides of the border |
| 20:44.37 | Leeds | they were apparently in 'containers' - which could mean containers, or just things which contain |
| 20:44.38 | boudiccas | perhpas the chickens were economic migrants? |
| 20:45.08 | Leeds | the worry is that they were a form of biological warfare |
| 20:45.13 | boudiccas | or wanted to escape chinese communism |
| 20:45.15 | rhowe | http://www.enlighted.com/pages/bras.shtml |
| 20:46.00 | boudiccas | mozrat; whats the url please? |
| 20:46.01 | mozrat | boudiccas: it's missing some images (I reorganised my home drive) but the text is there.. |
| 20:46.12 | Leeds | rhowe: seen that sort of thing before, strangely enough |
| 20:46.13 | mozrat | and it's small - I'll mail it. Which address again? |
| 20:46.24 | rhowe | Leeds: heh, no doubt |
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| 21:33.58 | mikejw_ | Leeds: I sent an email to some wmin pals but there's no respons yet I'm afraid |
| 21:34.07 | mikejw_ | *response |
| 21:44.45 | Leeds | I was just wondering :-) |
| 21:45.42 | Leeds | for the record, it looks like my allofmp3 address (@vmlinuz.org) is now well and truly on the spam lists :-( |
| 21:46.05 | mikejw_ | :( |
| 21:47.06 | murb | Leeds: oh i just noticed that |
| 21:47.22 | murb | spam to a one time address i gave them. |
| 21:47.39 | murb | i think i will be checking my credit card statements closely |
| 21:47.43 | Leeds | only started this week, I think |
| 21:47.57 | murb | i saw my first one today. |
| 21:48.15 | murb | I'm glad sort of that it wasn't just me. |
| 21:48.48 | Leeds | 'tis a pity though |
| 21:49.14 | murb | but given there is no real law enforcment in .ru i think we can be happy ti isn't teh cc numbers. |
| 21:49.20 | murb | yet. |
| 21:53.30 | rhowe | wethrin: When's Lordi? |
| 21:54.51 | rhowe | n/m, found the email |
| 22:45.02 | wethrin | rhowe: 31st |
| 22:48.55 | rhowe | your email said the doors open at 1900h and the concert starts at the same time |
| 22:48.55 | rhowe | Is that right? |
| 22:50.03 | wethrin | That's what the tickets said |
| 22:50.13 | rhowe | hmmm |
| 22:50.21 | wethrin | Get out of work at 5 :) |
| 22:50.28 | wethrin | Gives tinme to grab food |
| 22:50.58 | rhowe | alright :) |
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