| 00:29.52 | cpufreak | . |
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| 07:31.05 | morsing | SlayerXP |
| 07:31.06 | morsing | ! |
| 07:33.53 | SlayerXP | morning |
| 08:02.21 | Blapto|Work | morsing! |
| 08:02.24 | morsing | Blapto|Work! |
| 08:10.48 | morsing | Moo |
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| 08:32.13 | morsing | huw-l! |
| 08:32.17 | huw-l | morning |
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| 08:33.02 | morsing | asht_007! |
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| 08:35.39 | morsing | stephanb2! |
| 08:35.59 | stephanb2 | morsing! |
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| 09:12.11 | Cope | moin chums |
| 09:12.54 | morsing | Cope! |
| 09:13.26 | Cope | hi morsing |
| 09:13.36 | Cope | ooh, yes... must phone pippa |
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| 09:22.08 | morsing | http://www.thesuperheroquiz.com/ |
| 09:22.14 | morsing | xander! |
| 09:22.21 | morsing | xander: Which superhero are you? |
| 09:22.30 | morsing | Mmm... Pippa |
| 09:27.33 | xander | morsing: I am Green Lantern or SuperXander, I am 5% off being Supergirl :-) |
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| 09:40.37 | mozratv2 | Good Morning |
| 09:40.58 | mozratv2 | my back hurts :( |
| 09:43.58 | z00dax | mozratv2: congrats! |
| 09:44.04 | z00dax | where have you moved to ? |
| 09:44.10 | Cope | ooh |
| 09:44.35 | z00dax | hiya Cope |
| 09:44.48 | mozratv2 | z00dax, same part of town |
| 09:45.00 | mozratv2 | nearest tube is Elm Park on the District Line |
| 09:45.06 | mozratv2 | psuedo-Essex |
| 09:45.49 | mozratv2 | Cope, I'm at a client site with SSH and IRC blocked on their firewall - first time I've used CGIIRC in anger |
| 09:45.53 | mozratv2 | works pretty well |
| 09:46.14 | morsing | mozratv2: Which superhero are you? |
| 09:46.33 | mozratv2 | morsing. Hmm, good question |
| 09:46.34 | Cope | I'm trying to get a debian box to apt-get update through windows proxy server |
| 09:46.44 | morsing | mozratv2: http://www.thesuperheroquiz.com/ |
| 09:47.43 | z00dax | Cope: try a ftp mirror |
| 09:48.30 | z00dax | rather than a http on - windhuze proxy's dont like bite range's |
| 09:48.36 | z00dax | s/on - one -/ |
| 09:48.51 | mozratv2 | I am Spiderman! |
| 09:48.53 | mozratv2 | w00t |
| 09:49.13 | stephanb2 | holy jesus mother of god i am spiderman :-( |
| 09:49.28 | xander | mozratv2: I guess you like red heads or does that push it toward the incredibles? |
| 09:49.44 | mozratv2 | Dunno - I like redheads though :-) |
| 09:49.44 | stephanb2 | maybe we should do stats on gllug. |
| 09:49.46 | mozratv2 | Feisty! |
| 09:50.21 | stephanb2 | ans because a lot of us are gonna answer "im a geek, i like to build things, i don't like to be in the spotlights"... |
| 09:50.42 | stephanb2 | ... only a limited number of choices will turn up. |
| 09:51.02 | xander | I guess not many wear push-up bras too? |
| 09:51.24 | stephanb2 | ultimately a psychologist would call this a "Superhero Personality Sorter" |
| 09:51.38 | morsing | xander: I do |
| 09:51.46 | stephanb2 | xander: that's correct, not many sysadmins wear push-up bras |
| 09:51.53 | stephanb2 | except at weekends :-D |
| 09:52.14 | stephanb2 | when they're not going to bletchley park :-o |
| 09:52.23 | xander | stephanb2: Well - I hear they are great for holding an extra couple of pints of bitter |
| 09:52.26 | wethrin | foo |
| 09:52.50 | morsing | http://www.thefreedictionary.com/concoction |
| 09:52.52 | stephanb2 | xander: you could sell that for these tv commercials for australian beer |
| 09:56.54 | Cope | I'm struggling because I have an @ sign in my password |
| 09:57.09 | xander | stephanb2: and in Paris for cocktails :-) |
| 09:57.21 | Cope | and even if I quote or escape it, apt-get treats it as the @ in the url |
| 09:58.20 | morsing | Cope: Check it! |
| 09:58.34 | xander | Cope: What about setting up squid as a cache peer locally and setting the password in the squid conf file? |
| 10:03.10 | stephanb2 | Cope: maybe it's not a good idea to have an @ sign in a password |
| 10:04.27 | Cope | why on earth not? |
| 10:05.21 | Cope | xander: I've got a python script that should handle ntlm auth/proxy... could try with squid too; grr |
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| 10:05.51 | wethrin | COPE! |
| 10:07.20 | Cope | hello wethrin |
| 10:07.40 | wethrin | How do? |
| 10:08.25 | morsing | wethrin! |
| 10:08.27 | morsing | Beer |
| 10:08.30 | wethrin | Tonight |
| 10:08.37 | wethrin | I'm apparently working at the Durham beer festival |
| 10:09.01 | cpufreak | no more beer |
| 10:09.09 | cpufreak | had too much last night |
| 10:09.12 | cpufreak | and had whiskey afterwards |
| 10:09.52 | wethrin | Irish stuff? |
| 10:10.20 | cpufreak | naturally |
| 10:10.32 | wethrin | Mm. Right. Coffee time |
| 10:10.36 | cpufreak | had coffee |
| 10:10.42 | cpufreak | had sausage sandwich |
| 10:10.45 | cpufreak | had nurofen |
| 10:10.47 | cpufreak | had water |
| 10:10.48 | cpufreak | still in pain |
| 10:13.39 | cpufreak | :( |
| 10:13.47 | antiphase | paracetamol is what you want, Nurofen no good for alco-head |
| 10:14.03 | cpufreak | that involves going to a chemist |
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| 10:15.54 | fluxdude | hi all, I've notice you in the mag Linux Format for quite a while, but having never been a member of a user's group I'd love to know what the deal with this whole scene is. Anybody care to tell me what the group actually does? (I live in London by the way) |
| 10:16.19 | SlayerXP | fluxdude: http://www.hinterlands.org/gllugfaq/ |
| 10:16.29 | SlayerXP | (hi!) |
| 10:19.10 | mozratv2 | hello slayerxp |
| 10:19.25 | mozratv2 | Hey fluxdude - welcome to the channel |
| 10:19.34 | mozratv2 | we have technical meetings once a month |
| 10:19.44 | mozratv2 | meet up for social meetings on irregular occassions |
| 10:19.55 | mozratv2 | have a mailing list (500 subscribers) |
| 10:19.57 | mozratv2 | and this channel |
| 10:20.18 | mozratv2 | thats mainly what we have organised |
| 10:20.25 | SlayerXP | and, sadly, try as we might to fix the problem, we have George |
| 10:29.53 | morsing | Cope: :) |
| 10:33.57 | mozratv2 | eek. |
| 10:34.13 | mozratv2 | Apparently I am flying to Milan on September 14th, back on the 16th |
| 10:34.22 | mozratv2 | Looking at the /topic - that is a problem |
| 10:34.41 | mozratv2 | I need some volunteers |
| 10:36.55 | SlayerXP | to do what, exactly? |
| 10:39.06 | mozratv2 | be there on the day |
| 10:39.25 | mozratv2 | mainly for the leaflet thing from Regents Park to the venue |
| 10:39.28 | SlayerXP | i'll be somewhere on that day, does that help? :) |
| 10:39.54 | mozratv2 | bbl |
| 10:40.48 | morsing | Tomato |
| 10:42.47 | Cope | hrm? |
| 10:42.58 | antiphase | *cough* change the password *cough* |
| 10:43.00 | antiphase | KISS |
| 10:43.35 | Cope | yeah, right, because hacking around the problem without understanding it is world-class engineering. |
| 10:44.16 | stephanb2 | there is hacking without understanding |
| 10:44.28 | stephanb2 | but sometimes there is also lateral thinking |
| 10:44.29 | antiphase | I'm not an engineer, I'm a sysadmin. I fix things with gaffer tape. |
| 10:44.42 | stephanb2 | another way of phrasing it |
| 10:44.48 | antiphase | Although I have an engineering degree as well, so I feel your pain |
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| 11:13.09 | wethrin | blapto! |
| 11:14.54 | wethrin | Hmm. I have a manual here that spells a particular word as "connexion". When did the spelling change to "connection"? |
| 11:15.04 | wethrin | The manual's dated December 1966, incidentally |
| 11:21.24 | antiphase | Is it American or British? |
| 11:21.44 | wethrin | British |
| 11:21.52 | wethrin | Edwards Vacuum stuff |
| 11:26.35 | antiphase | Google sez the Latin derivation was the x variant, although the infinitive of the verb was conectere. Probably some meddling 1960s new wave hippy type that stuck the oar in |
| 11:27.54 | wethrin | Damn hippies! |
| 11:46.51 | gregj | http://news.airwise.com/story/view/1156978031.html |
| 11:46.53 | gregj | wow |
| 11:48.33 | wethrin | greg! |
| 11:48.36 | wethrin | how's life? |
| 11:54.40 | morsing | My new company mobile is the crappiest phone ever... |
| 11:56.23 | *** part/#gllug huw-l (n=scmhl2@ygridll.cs.cf.ac.uk) |
| 12:00.41 | wethrin | Ask for a 6310i! |
| 12:00.44 | Cope | For those interested, got apt working through proxy using ntlmaps |
| 12:01.37 | morsing | wethrin: 6310is must be almost free by now |
| 12:01.44 | wethrin | morsing: They're not |
| 12:01.58 | Cope | not almost free? |
| 12:01.59 | wethrin | Near the end of last year they were fetching about £70 second hand |
| 12:02.08 | Cope | how is 'almost free' defined |
| 12:02.24 | wethrin | in terms of phones, I would make a guess at < £10 |
| 12:02.25 | morsing | wethrin: I'm not getting one then |
| 12:02.36 | morsing | £10 is almost free |
| 12:03.20 | Cope | I think I have a 6310i |
| 12:03.30 | morsing | For sale? |
| 12:03.42 | Cope | no - just the one I use for work |
| 12:03.59 | Cope | anyway, enough irc; problem solved. |
| 12:04.00 | Cope | bye for now :) |
| 12:04.04 | morsing | :( |
| 12:04.16 | morsing | :) |
| 12:04.16 | wethrin | bye cope! |
| 12:04.17 | Cope | speak soon |
| 12:04.19 | morsing | Bye Cope |
| 12:26.33 | JAV | hello |
| 12:37.21 | morsing | JAV! |
| 12:41.59 | Blapto|Work | ~seen cope |
| 12:44.22 | ibot | cope <n=3ebd3982@mozrat01.vm.bytemark.co.uk> was last seen on IRC in channel #gllug, 40m 5s ago, saying: 'speak soon'. |
| 12:44.47 | Blapto|Work | ~cope |
| 12:44.57 | ibot | ACTION frowns, "I'm coping fine thank you." |
| 12:44.57 | Blapto|Work | Bah, I'm clearly a moron |
| 12:45.28 | Blapto|Work | Or I'm not! Hurrah! |
| 12:49.59 | Blapto|Work | Has anybody ever implemented an NTP server? |
| 12:50.00 | morsing | ~cope |
| 12:50.14 | ibot | ACTION frowns, "I'm coping fine thank you." |
| 12:50.15 | morsing | Blapto|Work: I believe your brother has |
| 12:50.46 | Blapto|Work | Thanks |
| 12:50.56 | Blapto|Work | ibot SlayerXP |
| 12:51.00 | ibot | hmm... slayerxp is a dogmatic zealot, or a debhead and proud of it no doubt!, or a genius |
| 12:51.05 | Blapto|Work | ibot Blapto |
| 12:51.07 | ibot | i heard blapto is the love of money, or the brother of SlammerXP |
| 12:51.47 | Blapto|Work | ibot morsing has trouble distinguishing between first name and surname. |
| 12:52.01 | Blapto|Work | ibot morsing |
| 12:52.02 | ibot | well, morsing is a nice and very knowledgeable guy who often buys rounds of beer, or mozrat, or living in a virtual universe where AIX resembles Unix. capable of having bee-wax applied to the plucking end, or mozrat, or verb: to paste random crap devoid of context, or not a CNAME for mozrat, or a Python expert |
| 12:52.25 | Blapto|Work | "capable of having bee-wax applied to the plucking end"? |
| 12:58.57 | wethrin | Blapto|Work: Various people have implemented NTP servers :) |
| 12:59.01 | wethrin | man openntpd |
| 12:59.13 | wethrin | or |
| 12:59.13 | wethrin | man ntpd |
| 13:08.33 | morsing | ibot SlayerXP is also Blapto|Work's brother |
| 13:08.43 | ibot | okay, morsing |
| 13:10.41 | wethrin | :) |
| 13:12.44 | morsing | wethrin! |
| 13:12.46 | morsing | ibot Blapto|Work |
| 13:12.49 | wethrin | hi |
| 13:12.59 | morsing | We're out of coffee |
| 13:13.01 | morsing | :( |
| 13:13.15 | wethrin | panic! |
| 13:13.22 | wethrin | RUN, do not walk, to your nearest Whittards |
| 13:13.50 | Blapto|Work | Wrong |
| 13:13.57 | Blapto|Work | Sit still and scream very loudly. |
| 13:14.04 | Blapto|Work | Someone will be irritated and will go and get it for you |
| 13:16.00 | wethrin | Yes, but that will take longer. And if you go and get the coffee, you can later reel in favours from other people |
| 13:19.54 | morsing | Mmm... reel |
| 13:21.56 | wethrin | ! |
| 13:24.10 | stephanb2 | Blapto|Work teaches us how to regress to the mind of a 1 year old |
| 13:25.59 | wethrin | George does that quite well too |
| 13:27.19 | trousers_ | Uuuuuuuuuuh |
| 13:27.40 | morsing | Check it! |
| 13:27.47 | morsing | ping Le |
| 13:27.51 | morsing | ~seen Leeds |
| 13:28.12 | ibot | leeds <n=richardc@92.Red-83-54-225.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net> was last seen on IRC in channel #gllug, 1d 2h 36m 50s ago, saying: 'kinky'. |
| 13:28.21 | morsing | Mmm... Kinky |
| 13:29.28 | trousers_ | morsing: What is this whole "Check it!" business? |
| 13:40.45 | morsing | trousers_: It's TwoSheds' fault. He's a fan of Ali G and started the whole "Check it!" business |
| 13:40.48 | morsing | exasperated |
| 13:42.53 | stephanb2 | why is the vocabulary limited to "Check it!" though? |
| 13:43.05 | morsing | It's not |
| 13:43.12 | morsing | I've got "Beer" as well |
| 13:43.36 | stephanb2 | i never heard morsing say "Booyakasha!" or "Staines" |
| 13:43.49 | morsing | I've definately said Staines! |
| 13:43.57 | stephanb2 | oh ok |
| 13:44.03 | stephanb2 | Wicked! |
| 13:45.32 | stephanb2 | however, since yesterday's conversation about the pirani gauge, i think the most emblematic sentence for the group could be... |
| 13:45.44 | stephanb2 | "you can't install Debian on it" |
| 13:47.01 | wethrin | I'm still fixing it |
| 13:48.32 | stephanb2 | wethrin: the pirani gauge ? |
| 13:48.57 | morsing | Or Debian? |
| 13:49.26 | wethrin | Gauge |
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| 13:56.10 | Blapto|Work | pirani gauge? Make it easier for evil villians to work out how quickly flesh can be removed |
| 13:57.06 | wethrin | no,t hat's a piranha gauge |
| 14:16.29 | Blapto|Work | Ah |
| 14:16.31 | Blapto|Work | Easy mistake |
| 14:18.34 | mozrat | hello all |
| 14:19.39 | stephanb2 | Blapto|Work: silent cpu coolers heavy on copper blades are very good at making sure you will bleed every time you open that computer case |
| 14:20.51 | Erwin | BTW, does anyone have a recommendation for a PC builder, that builds reasonably silent but modern systems? |
| 14:21.56 | trousers_ | Erwin: Build you own |
| 14:21.59 | trousers_ | *your |
| 14:22.20 | stephanb2 | Erwin: no clue. I build them myself. And a lot of so-called "quiet" components are not as silent as they claim they are :-( |
| 14:23.02 | Erwin | I don't build my own PCs and I don't compile my own linux distributions anymore :) |
| 14:23.11 | trousers_ | Erwin: If you want really quiet stuff when building your own, either watercool, or use all-passive or I can recommend Zalman for silence - but Zalman have *huge* heatsinks |
| 14:23.35 | stephanb2 | ah yeah watercool, if price isn't an issue. |
| 14:23.53 | trousers_ | Indeed, I also just want to say that Shuttles are tasty :) |
| 14:23.57 | cpufreak | Erwin: just buy a mac pro |
| 14:24.35 | stephanb2 | cpufreak: limited HD and video performance / expandability |
| 14:24.39 | trousers_ | Hmm, I need to pick up a cheap iBook or Thinkpad T40/41 when I have enough money... |
| 14:24.43 | Erwin | cpufreak: I've thought about it. I'm not sure I'll like OS X. |
| 14:24.52 | trousers_ | Erwin: Then put Linux on it |
| 14:26.43 | cpufreak | stephanb2: huh? they have pci express |
| 14:26.48 | cpufreak | and 4 hard disk bays |
| 14:27.04 | cpufreak | Erwin: they can triple boot linux, osx, and windows |
| 14:27.31 | stephanb2 | cpufreak: sorry was thinking mac-mini |
| 14:28.52 | trousers_ | cpufreak: Do mac still sell any PPC models? |
| 14:29.13 | trousers_ | Well, Apple |
| 14:30.55 | mozrat | Mmm, google maps on the blackberry |
| 14:31.13 | Erwin | The only Windows application I still dual-boot to is WoW, so that I could run under OS X :) |
| 14:32.02 | Erwin | But I'm not sure if I am compatible with OS X, considering I've been reading mail i pine in text mode for the last 11 years |
| 14:32.44 | Blapto|Work | stephanb2, computers are designed to make you bleed |
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| 14:50.14 | stephanb2 | Erwin: well, there is a "console" in OSX. I'm pretty sure pine, and most text mode Unix apps will run happily in an OSX shell |
| 14:50.35 | stephanb2 | Erwin: after all OSX is built on BSD isn't it ? |
| 14:52.56 | mozrat | hello Gunde |
| 14:53.14 | Gunde | hello |
| 14:54.44 | xander | stephanb2: http://fink.sourceforge.net/ |
| 14:54.53 | xander | Easy to get all manner of exciting things on |
| 14:58.28 | xander | I am trying to monitor hits to various web pages. The whole site is dynamically generated, so with the log analysis tool (Urchin) I just get all hits on the dynamic stub. |
| 15:00.11 | xander | My plan is to have apache Alias $page_title.gif to /images/transparent.gif and so I can monitor hits to page_title.gif as a measure of the hits per page. Does this sound sensible or is there an easier mechanism? |
| 15:12.38 | stephanb2 | xander: im interested in attempting to run OSx86 on my AMD64 box |
| 15:13.33 | xander | stephanb2: Is this the version that came with your mac or the patched version available from various locations? :-) |
| 15:13.49 | xander | I hear the prepatched version is occasionally unstable |
| 15:18.33 | stephanb2 | xander: i don't have a mac. and with Apple's current marketing policy, unlikely i will get one. |
| 15:19.05 | xander | stephanb2: You do not want to buy a mac because you think the company is dodgy? |
| 15:19.09 | stephanb2 | xander: yes pre-patched version |
| 15:19.32 | xander | I bought a couple of G3s and they work with Tiger very well, both bought quite cheaply on ebay. |
| 15:19.51 | stephanb2 | xander: the company is absolutely fine. i just don't need to buy the design hype |
| 15:20.02 | stephanb2 | and pay the pricetag for it |
| 15:20.58 | stephanb2 | i used macs until the beige G2's and the Umax clones |
| 15:21.32 | xander | stephanb2: I would suggest the G3s they were fine until I felt a desire to play DiabloII again :-) |
| 15:23.39 | stephanb2 | but at that point, macs stopped having anything that a PC didn't |
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| 15:38.49 | Erwin | Geez, the mac shop charges 200 for another G of ram |
| 15:39.30 | Cope | :4 |
| 15:40.08 | cpufreak | crucial.com IYF |
| 15:40.35 | Erwin | Yeah, it's 136 there. |
| 15:42.35 | rhowe | You purchase the extended warranty, and you get a little pack with a couple of stickers in it |
| 15:42.56 | rhowe | the stickers have a number and a password, so you go to the website and log in with them, and fill out a great big form |
| 15:43.19 | Erwin | So does someone here want to admit to abandoned Linux on the desktop for OS X, while still using it for UNIX software development? |
| 15:43.35 | rhowe | then you get asked to print the form out, sign it, put it in the envelope provided, include a copy of the invoice for the laptop, put a stamp on the envelope and then send it to the address printed on the envelope |
| 15:43.40 | rhowe | What a palava |
| 15:43.57 | rhowe | And to top it off, the envelope which was enclosed has an empty rectangle as the address |
| 15:44.08 | rhowe | I guess I could post it and assume that's their address, but I doubt it |
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| 15:44.13 | cbz | *glug* |
| 15:45.50 | Cope | Erwin: Is that a 'confession'? |
| 15:46.58 | Erwin | Cope: Not from me, I'm just thinking about it. |
| 15:47.58 | SlayerXP | cope: re your svn problem |
| 15:48.12 | SlayerXP | are you utterly utterly sure that directory contains a repo |
| 15:48.15 | Erwin | Dunno, maybe I should give Ubuntu another try and not waste money on a new fancy overpriced computer. I'm also tempted to replace my god old 21" CRT with some 1920x1200 23" wide-screen LCD |
| 15:48.21 | SlayerXP | and not, for example, a repo in a directory below that |
| 15:48.41 | Blapto|Work | high spec computers are overrated |
| 15:48.50 | cbz | yuh |
| 15:48.57 | Blapto|Work | You'll pay 25% more for 5% more performance. |
| 15:49.09 | Blapto|Work | (NumbersPulledOutOfArse(TM)) |
| 15:49.15 | SlayerXP | no that's intel, where you pay twice aqs much for half the performance |
| 15:49.34 | Erwin | Well, my machine is a 2.4 P4 so it's getting quite old. Then again, I don't do heavy compilation generally.. except when playing Wow :) |
| 15:49.48 | wethrin | buhhhh |
| 15:49.55 | wethrin | 2.4GHz P4; quite old? |
| 15:49.58 | Blapto|Work | A 2.4 P4 will still do basically everything though |
| 15:50.23 | Cope | SlayerXP: I will make a new one: |
| 15:50.23 | stephanb2 | Erwin: i have opted for 2x 17in 1280x1024. i find these "large" lcd panels well overpriced |
| 15:50.32 | Blapto|Work | Decent graphics card, 1GB RAM, a reformat if you're running windows and it will feel as fast as a new dual core machine |
| 15:50.44 | Erwin | The Dell one is fairly cheap, or at least it doesn't cost much more than my 21" originally did |
| 15:50.52 | Blapto|Work | Take the money you've saved, but some really nice monitors. |
| 15:50.55 | SlayerXP | cope: so svnadmin create foo; chown www-data: foo |
| 15:51.11 | wethrin | CPU speed is rarely a bottleneck nowadays |
| 15:51.24 | Blapto|Work | I use an Athlon 2800+ 1GB 6600GT at home, and it does basically everything I need it to. |
| 15:51.45 | stephanb2 | wethrin: unless you render 3d computer graphics |
| 15:52.04 | Erwin | Dell 24" is 622, half that if you can settle for 20", But supposedly Samsung, also 24 is much better than the dell |
| 15:52.27 | wethrin | stephanb2: Hence *rarely*, rather than never |
| 15:52.59 | Cope | slayerxp: su - www-data; svnadmin create /var/svn/repository/cope |
| 15:53.16 | stephanb2 | wethrin: obviously not an issue for the usual mail, web, office, digital-camera apps |
| 15:53.20 | wethrin | Yeah |
| 15:53.37 | Cope | slayerxp: svn import /home/nelsonst/myproject file:///var/svn/repository/cope/copev1 -m 'Initial Import' |
| 15:54.19 | SlayerXP | cope: your container, as sent to gllug, is missing the "DAV svn" directive |
| 15:54.40 | Cope | that's in there now |
| 15:54.42 | cbz | gah |
| 15:56.26 | Blapto|Work | Has anybody ever put non cisco ram in a cisco firewall? |
| 15:56.45 | Cope | ever? in the history of the universe? |
| 15:56.48 | cpufreak | yes |
| 15:56.52 | Cope | Likelihood - high. |
| 15:56.52 | cpufreak | I put crucial matched ram |
| 15:57.03 | cpufreak | well not firewall, router |
| 15:57.04 | Blapto|Work | cpufreak, what model? |
| 15:57.06 | cpufreak | but same difference |
| 15:57.24 | cpufreak | 2610, 7206vxr, 3620.... |
| 15:57.27 | SlayerXP | cope: so, when you hit it via apache? |
| 15:58.18 | Blapto|Work | what exactly do they take? |
| 15:58.18 | Cope | slayerxp: browsing just to localhost gets me the apache2 default screen; |
| 15:58.19 | cpufreak | Blapto|Work: I forget now |
| 15:58.20 | Cope | if I add svn/cope I get the same error |
| 15:58.23 | cpufreak | put the model number into crucial.com/uk |
| 15:58.26 | cpufreak | and it;'ll find you suitable ram |
| 15:58.35 | SlayerXP | you'll need /svn/cope |
| 15:58.39 | SlayerXP | okay |
| 15:59.02 | Cope | which incidentally I get if I add complete nonsense |
| 15:59.07 | SlayerXP | in the config change SVNParentPath to SVNPath /var/svn/repository/cope/ |
| 15:59.50 | SlayerXP | perhaps without the trailing / |
| 16:00.12 | SlayerXP | bounce apache and try again |
| 16:01.10 | Cope | ok... done; same effect |
| 16:01.24 | SlayerXP | okay, where's you docroot? |
| 16:01.28 | SlayerXP | your |
| 16:02.14 | *** join/#gllug Nylex (n=NC@195-112-35-74.dyn.gotadsl.co.uk) |
| 16:03.36 | Cope | would appear to be /var/www |
| 16:03.43 | SlayerXP | ls -l /var/www/svn |
| 16:04.21 | Cope | not a sausage |
| 16:04.32 | SlayerXP | give me an account and sudoers |
| 16:04.48 | Cope | not publically available, afraid |
| 16:05.17 | SlayerXP | svn version? |
| 16:05.30 | Cope | 1.1.4-2 |
| 16:05.43 | SlayerXP | that's debian stable-ish |
| 16:05.51 | SlayerXP | maybe even testing |
| 16:05.51 | Cope | yeah, this is a woody box |
| 16:06.14 | Cope | erm, sarge even |
| 16:06.19 | Cope | its stable anyway |
| 16:06.22 | SlayerXP | yes |
| 16:06.25 | SlayerXP | packages up to date? |
| 16:06.30 | Cope | yeah |
| 16:06.43 | SlayerXP | show me your config, one more time |
| 16:07.03 | SlayerXP | private msg is fine, or paste site, up to you |
| 16:08.31 | SlayerXP | oh, is /var/svn/repository at least o+x |
| 16:08.36 | SlayerXP | or owned by www-data |
| 16:09.04 | Cope | yes, owned by www-data |
| 16:09.26 | Cope | pastebin being dreadfully slow |
| 16:09.31 | Cope | anyone know another? |
| 16:09.36 | Cope | can't paste multilines in this client |
| 16:09.48 | Cope | http://pastebin.com/780702 |
| 16:09.49 | Cope | there |
| 16:09.50 | SlayerXP | http://pastebin.ca/ |
| 16:11.03 | SlayerXP | http://www.hinterlands.org/svn.conf |
| 16:11.10 | SlayerXP | that's what one of my containers looks like |
| 16:11.43 | SlayerXP | err no wonder that doesn't work :) |
| 16:11.51 | SlayerXP | you've put it in utterly the wrong place :) |
| 16:12.03 | Cope | hmm? |
| 16:12.18 | SlayerXP | /etc/apache2/mods-available/dav_svn.conf |
| 16:12.18 | Cope | it's symlinked to enabled, if you mean that |
| 16:12.45 | SlayerXP | needs tgo be in sites-available and symlinked to sites-enabled |
| 16:12.49 | Cope | yes, it is |
| 16:12.56 | Cope | oh.. other way round? |
| 16:13.15 | SlayerXP | or rather, within a vhost container |
| 16:13.18 | Cope | oh... um... sites - virtual hosts; sorry being thing |
| 16:13.22 | Cope | *thick |
| 16:13.44 | Cope | hrm, well I need to collect william |
| 16:13.59 | Cope | back tomorrow; and will try again. |
| 16:14.01 | rhowe | pub? |
| 16:14.07 | SlayerXP | hometime |
| 16:14.07 | Cope | I wish :( |
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| 16:23.28 | *** part/#gllug Gunde (n=gunde@dillevel4.cimr.cam.ac.uk) |
| 16:34.55 | stephanb2 | rhowe: TCR ? |
| 16:35.16 | Erwin | Tottenham Court Road |
| 16:40.15 | *** part/#gllug asht_007 (n=asht_007@host-212-158-220-82.bulldogdsl.com) |
| 16:43.12 | Blapto|Work | pub? |
| 16:43.30 | Blapto|Work | pix 515 now perfectly happy with 128MB of some RAM I found in a bucket that fits :D |
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| 17:19.30 | stephanb2 | cu guys tmr |
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| 17:41.31 | keithlard | meep |
| 17:43.27 | wethrin | foom |
| 17:43.29 | wethrin | Beertime! |
| 17:45.44 | trousers_ | What was that bleeding edge Redhat called again? |
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| 18:03.09 | Erwin | Fedora Coredump. |
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| 18:12.53 | keithlard | can anyone ping pop.freeserve.net? |
| 18:12.54 | Erwin | Yes. |
| 18:12.54 | keithlard | yeah it just came back for me as well... weird |
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| 19:05.46 | trousers_ | Ahoy there sailors! |
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| 19:54.53 | Erwin | Damn users. We do some JS based surveys where the client places a JS file on their server which loads from our server and enables some popups and stuff. |
| 19:55.22 | Erwin | Now somehow my users decided that our server has unlimited capacity, because the client that they placed the file with has page view rating that are 50x ours according to alexis |
| 19:55.37 | Erwin | So 2 hours ago I got curious to why there were 256 httpd processes and why we were getting 45 hits per second. |
| 19:55.41 | goltor | nice users :P |
| 19:55.49 | goltor | lol |
| 19:56.05 | Erwin | I set up a squid server on another server though, as this is just some static contest that's being requested. |
| 19:56.21 | Erwin | So now I have to convince my user to talk to the client to modify their web pages to point on our squid server |
| 19:56.43 | goltor | yeah, um, good luck |
| 19:58.17 | Erwin | Is it "strictly necessary", he asks. Well, gee. Now we have about 240-250 httpd processes active. What happens if that top-1000 alexa site hits some kind of spike? |
| 19:59.48 | goltor | sounds like a /. effect coming your way |
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