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| 03:14.03 | Leeds | ibot change 387.91euro to usd |
| 03:14.09 | Leeds | ibot change 387.91 euro to usd |
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| 05:32.29 | mozrat | Good Morning |
| 06:07.55 | mozrat | hello world |
| 06:25.43 | mozrat | Hmm, very annoyingly I seem to be not receiving some mail from the GLLUG list |
| 06:26.01 | mozrat | I've just seen an offer for someone to do a talk on the archive by complete chance |
| 06:26.33 | morsing | 'morning |
| 06:26.43 | mozrat | morsing! |
| 06:26.56 | morsing | Are you on the train? |
| 06:28.47 | mozrat | No, drove to work today |
| 06:28.47 | mozrat | arrived at 0630 |
| 06:28.47 | mozrat | Fsck it - and another email I didn't get through |
| 06:28.48 | mozrat | this isn't good |
| 06:36.37 | mozrat | yo Leeds |
| 06:37.16 | Leeds | after my colleagues finally realised I'm leaving next week, they took me out for lunch :-) |
| 06:38.10 | mozrat | heh - nice |
| 06:38.26 | mozrat | Think we should advertise Lonix's installfest in our /topic line? |
| 06:38.49 | mozrat | I have been dropping shitloads of GLLUG mail recently :( |
| 06:38.49 | pontifex | Does Lonix have an irc channel |
| 06:38.51 | pontifex | ? |
| 06:38.57 | mozrat | pontifex: I don't think it does |
| 06:39.03 | pontifex | (morning btw) |
| 06:39.07 | mozrat | moin |
| 06:39.21 | pontifex | heh |
| 06:39.55 | mozrat | pontifex: do you know about the LUG news section in Linux Format now? They are looking for updates |
| 06:40.02 | pontifex | yeah |
| 06:40.05 | mozrat | Is someone sending stuff from Hants? |
| 06:40.10 | pontifex | saw the mail from the young lady |
| 06:40.19 | pontifex | unlikely |
| 06:40.41 | pontifex | is the mag out yet? |
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| 06:42.06 | mozrat | pontifex: boudiccas got her copy this week but I think she is a subscriber rather than a WHSmiths lurker like I |
| 06:42.33 | pontifex | yus |
| 06:43.33 | mozrat | http://beerandspeech.org/tmp/gllug.txt # excuse the lack of line breaks |
| 06:43.59 | mozrat | and the youngest member of the picnic got his photo in there apparently |
| 06:44.01 | pontifex | nice |
| 06:45.38 | mozrat | heh - got an email from Jason.. can't quite make out if his narkiness is directed against me or just PHP apps in general |
| 06:45.42 | Leeds | hmm... blog post by Schwartz (Mr. boss-man @ sun.com) - those cardboard figures who were hitch-hiking around the US? Apparently HP wouldn't chuck in a few $ to buy the Hewlett and Packard figures, so Sun bought them instead :-) |
| 06:45.53 | mozrat | If I wasn't so thickskinned I'd take offence ;D |
| 06:47.01 | pontifex | jason hosts gllug.org.uk? |
| 06:47.44 | Leeds | he does |
| 06:52.46 | morsing | wethrin! |
| 06:52.51 | morsing | Mmm... Chimes |
| 06:53.44 | mozrat | w00 - the canteen is open downstairs! |
| 06:53.47 | mozrat | toasttime |
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| 07:01.55 | mozrat | hi Apan |
| 07:02.11 | morsing | Apan! |
| 07:04.35 | mozrat | Leeds, sorry - what do you mean cardboard cutouts>? |
| 07:04.56 | Leeds | apparently they're not cardboard - they're wodden |
| 07:04.59 | Leeds | afternoon Apan |
| 07:05.29 | mozrat | ahh, wooden. That makes much more sense |
| 07:06.58 | Leeds | "Can I buy one?" "No" "Not even for $300?" "No" "But there was this site..." "No" |
| 07:07.32 | Leeds | "Surely the kids need food and clean water first" "Yes, some kids do, but there are huge areas of the planet where they have food and water but could do with some help on education" |
| 07:09.44 | Leeds | "But they'll just get sold on the black market, or stolen by the local militia" "Maybe, but they are designed as kids computers, not adult ones - and so what if some don't get to the kids? Some will, and they will help them" |
| 07:09.59 | Leeds | etc. |
| 07:12.00 | mozrat | arfarf - this babelfish translator translates English to English |
| 07:12.07 | mozrat | but goes through 10 other languages first |
| 07:12.08 | mozrat | http://www.tashian.com/multibabel/ |
| 07:12.19 | mozrat | English text - When the moon hits your eye like a big pizza pie, that's amore. |
| 07:12.30 | mozrat | translates through 10 languages back into English as |
| 07:12.37 | mozrat | If the moon fixes its eye like a great vector of Fleischpie of the vector of Pizzapie, is the lover. |
| 07:14.00 | Leeds | Relativo or Nichtsein, is the question |
| 07:14.34 | morsing | Leeds! |
| 07:15.18 | Leeds | morsing... are you coming to pick me up at the airport next week then? :-) |
| 07:15.46 | mozrat | Do you mean me? |
| 07:15.53 | Leeds | well, anyone... |
| 07:16.01 | mozrat | Which day are you landing? |
| 07:16.02 | Leeds | I sure someone offered at some point... |
| 07:16.09 | Leeds | Sunday morning the 27th |
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| 07:17.10 | mozrat | Leeds: if morsing can't do it I will |
| 07:17.15 | mozrat | but - ask him first :P |
| 07:17.57 | Leeds | I don't actually expect anyone to come - seriously, it's more than I'd ask for |
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| 07:22.25 | morsing | Apan! |
| 07:22.37 | morsing | Leeds: If you want :) |
| 07:22.56 | morsing | Leeds: Ahh... I might not be around that weekend :( |
| 07:23.14 | morsing | Leeds: Which airport? |
| 07:23.26 | morsing | How long have you actually been gone for? |
| 07:24.42 | Apan | Morning all. |
| 07:25.02 | Leeds | Heathrow... I left the UK on 5/5/5, but I've been back a couple of times - I was last there in the first week of January |
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| 07:37.41 | morsing | phearless! |
| 07:37.51 | phearless | yeah ! |
| 07:37.56 | phearless | good morning ! |
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| 07:54.53 | mozrat | morning Mart |
| 07:55.01 | SlammerXP | morning |
| 07:57.26 | SlammerXP | so, today's dilema |
| 07:57.37 | SlammerXP | I have social-engineered details of an idiots spam-filtering project |
| 07:57.47 | SlammerXP | it's utterly insecure, do I pollute his database to hell and back? |
| 08:00.49 | mozrat | Why would you want to ? |
| 08:01.03 | SlammerXP | because he's an idiot |
| 08:02.05 | merlinn_ | but what benefit do you gain from doing such a thing? |
| 08:02.08 | SlammerXP | and he keeps asking the exim list perl and unix questions |
| 08:02.26 | merlinn_ | that's it? |
| 08:02.32 | SlammerXP | perhaps he'll stop claiming to have made "the biggest breakthrough in email processing in |
| 08:02.32 | SlammerXP | years." |
| 08:03.05 | SlammerXP | and then go on to list most of blueyonder's mail block |
| 08:04.01 | SlammerXP | he refused to give me the details when I asked, so I logged into Lynda's gmail account and asked from there |
| 08:04.07 | SlammerXP | got the details within 5 minutes |
| 08:05.18 | mozrat | So what is his breakthrough? |
| 08:05.42 | SlammerXP | "yellow listing" |
| 08:05.49 | merlinn_ | yellow listing? |
| 08:06.04 | SlammerXP | http://www.exim.org/mail-archives/exim-users/Week-of-Mon-20060626/msg00206.html |
| 08:06.05 | mozrat | Something to do with pee? |
| 08:06.15 | Leeds | yellow snow |
| 08:06.49 | SlammerXP | see also http://wiki.ctyme.com/index.php/Spam_DNS_Lists |
| 08:07.44 | merlinn_ | so wtf does a yellow list achieve |
| 08:07.49 | SlammerXP | though you'll have trouble reading past some of the "correct all" spelling checking he's done |
| 08:10.00 | SlammerXP | his ultra secure data submission script can be found here: |
| 08:10.06 | SlammerXP | http://www.hinterlands.org/perkel.sh |
| 08:12.18 | SlammerXP | actually, add a .txt to that |
| 08:12.28 | mozrat | heh |
| 08:13.31 | mozrat | so you can pollute him by netcatting "YOU SUCK" to his server? |
| 08:13.47 | SlammerXP | no, but you could programmatically populate his database with crap |
| 08:13.54 | merlinn_ | I think you're taking the whole thing entirely too seriously |
| 08:14.33 | SlammerXP | perhaps |
| 08:21.19 | morsing | ` |
| 08:21.46 | mozrat | ^ |
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| 08:24.24 | morsing | Jasperw! |
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| 08:33.44 | Jasperw | ... |
| 08:38.26 | morsing | Blapto|Work! |
| 08:38.44 | Leeds | Jasperw: .ch? |
| 08:39.24 | SlammerXP | you know, some day, someone will ask one of these FAQs |
| 08:39.43 | Leeds | SlammerXP: if a tree falls in a forest and nobody hears, does it really happen? |
| 08:41.03 | iTron | Leeds: It happens - and hard - for the birds nesting in the tree. ;) |
| 08:41.29 | mozrat | SlammerXP: what was it you were saying a while ago about my blatent disregard for latex formatting in the FAQ? |
| 08:41.33 | Blapto|Work | morsing! |
| 08:41.39 | mozrat | I saw you say it as I was logging off IRC |
| 08:42.00 | SlammerXP | mozrat: you zapped all the <qandaentry> tags except the first and last |
| 08:42.08 | Blapto|Work | Don't suppose anybody knows where I can get cage nuts etc. on Tottenham Court Road? |
| 08:42.42 | SlammerXP | mozrat: s'docbook, not latex :) |
| 08:43.08 | mozrat | SlammerXP: ah |
| 08:43.11 | morsing | RandomGuy! |
| 08:43.20 | mozrat | Did you fix my patch, or shall I resubmit it? |
| 08:43.30 | mozrat | $ANONYMOUS_IRC_LOSER! |
| 08:43.47 | Leeds | Blapto|Work: I don't know - but are they what get fed to cage monkeys? |
| 08:43.49 | SlammerXP | mozrat: fixed and integrated |
| 08:44.18 | SlammerXP | other way round, really |
| 08:44.41 | SlammerXP | if you "svn up" and then diff the file, you'll see what I had to do to fix it. |
| 08:45.21 | mozrat | I can't see the entry in the FAQ |
| 08:45.44 | mozrat | oh, yes I can |
| 08:46.11 | Blapto|Work | Leeds, they're just crazy for them. |
| 08:46.23 | mozrat | SlammerXP: I'll write some more soon |
| 08:46.32 | SlammerXP | i should perhaps explicitly list you in the copyright |
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| 08:46.44 | mozrat | SlammerXP: no, don't bother |
| 08:46.53 | SlammerXP | and cope's useless at that too |
| 08:46.59 | SlammerXP | oops, damned lag |
| 08:47.00 | mozrat | Yeah, he is just the worse |
| 08:47.02 | mozrat | oops |
| 08:47.08 | mozrat | Hi Cope! |
| 08:47.12 | Cope | morning chums |
| 08:47.42 | Leeds | Cope! |
| 08:49.22 | morsing | Cope! |
| 08:54.00 | Cope | morsing: how do you eject a cd? |
| 08:54.13 | SlammerXP | type 'eject' |
| 08:54.20 | George | right, I have my GCSE certificates |
| 08:55.13 | Cope | slammerxp: I thought of that...but no |
| 08:55.36 | Leeds | Cope: the button on the front of the computer? |
| 08:55.46 | Leeds | no! not that one - that's the reset button! |
| 08:56.10 | SlammerXP | cope: umount the cd frist perhaps? |
| 08:56.23 | SlammerXP | first |
| 08:57.18 | Cope | i see no evidence of an 'eject' command |
| 08:57.43 | SlammerXP | apt-get install eject |
| 08:59.23 | z00dax | $TZ Greetz |
| 09:02.45 | morsing | Cope: Press the button on the front |
| 09:07.32 | Cope | There's me expecting a command, or some messy vold stuff. |
| 09:08.04 | mozrat | it took me AGES to get a CD out of my machine when I first started learning Linux |
| 09:08.05 | Leeds | uh, on solaris? there is an eject-ish command somewhere |
| 09:08.08 | mozrat | like... several days :( |
| 09:09.41 | SlammerXP | on solaris/sparcs you just reboot the machine and press the eject button some time during the hour between the machine powering on and starting booting the OS |
| 09:12.58 | Cope | leeds: on solaris there is indeed an 'eject' command, and also a compicated vold setup; I had wondered if aix would be the same. |
| 09:14.26 | Leeds | oh, you're on AIX... uh... no idea |
| 09:14.46 | Cope | :) |
| 09:15.55 | Leeds | just a hint, in case anyone is calling VIrgin and wanting good service - as soon as you mention Upper Class, they will put you through to the 'Premier Team' who deal with big-spending customers, even if your final question has little to do with Upper... |
| 09:16.20 | morsing | What's the bloody point of an eject command anyway?!? |
| 09:16.49 | Leeds | morsing: there are lots of computers out there which don't have buttons on the front to eject things |
| 09:17.20 | Cope | solaris workstations often had floppy disk drives with no eject buttons either |
| 09:17.24 | Cope | that confused people at uni :) |
| 09:18.46 | Leeds | uh, macs? |
| 09:20.00 | morsing | Moo |
| 09:20.17 | Leeds | macs haven't had eject buttons on their floppy drives (or CD/DVD drives) for, uh ever? |
| 09:21.01 | mozrat | My G4 has an eject button |
| 09:21.24 | Leeds | really? |
| 09:21.54 | z00dax | most silverdoor and earlier PowerMac G4's have an eject button |
| 09:22.07 | Leeds | okay, okay... but most macs ever don't |
| 09:22.11 | z00dax | they have a normal ide dvd-rom rive |
| 09:22.19 | z00dax | drive! |
| 09:22.44 | Apan | cope: did you get it sorted? |
| 09:22.52 | z00dax | yup, and you are better off using the eject button from the keyboard anyway - the front button does not work once the os is running |
| 09:23.10 | mozrat | z00dax: thanks for your offer of help last night - I'll be taking you up on it |
| 09:23.31 | Cope | apan: I did. |
| 09:24.58 | z00dax | mozrat: sure no worries, i would love to help out |
| 09:25.34 | Leeds | z00dax: congratulations on taking over GLLUG! What are your plans? |
| 09:26.22 | mozrat | yep - see you guys later.. GOOD LUCK z00dax |
| 09:26.51 | z00dax | Leeds: world domination |
| 09:27.07 | mozrat | The inner M25 area would be a fantastic start :-) |
| 09:27.33 | z00dax | yes, that by end of October. |
| 09:28.39 | mozrat | z00dax: I've asked Jason to setup a gllug-sfd list so we can discuss what needs to be done, I'll sub you to it |
| 09:28.53 | Leeds | sfd? |
| 09:29.10 | Leeds | save from death? |
| 09:29.35 | Leeds | silently free David? |
| 09:30.23 | George | mmm futurama |
| 09:30.31 | Leeds | Surely Frank is dancing? |
| 09:30.31 | z00dax | a George ! |
| 09:30.36 | George | hi z00dax |
| 09:30.36 | mozrat | We could have discussed it on gllugadmin but I'm hoping some of the other LUGs might come along |
| 09:30.38 | z00dax | ok, work time. bbl |
| 09:30.43 | Leeds | good news everyone! |
| 09:30.44 | mozrat | laters, z00dax |
| 09:30.52 | mozrat | Hi Goe |
| 09:30.54 | Leeds | have a good day, z00dax |
| 09:30.57 | mozrat | hi George |
| 09:31.05 | Leeds | ooh, there's the hometime bell |
| 09:31.08 | George | mozrat: hi. |
| 09:31.32 | mozrat | When do you start at Cambs? |
| 09:32.04 | George | weirdo |
| 09:32.25 | mozrat | Hmm, yeah |
| 09:32.28 | mozrat | never done it before |
| 09:32.58 | Leeds | people apparently do it around HK - I've never done it |
| 09:34.10 | Blapto|Work | Since when have gultronics been shit? |
| 09:34.25 | SlammerXP | since when have they not? |
| 09:34.43 | Blapto|Work | "I'm looking for 19" rack mounting hardware" |
| 09:34.45 | Blapto|Work | What? |
| 09:34.52 | Blapto|Work | 19" rack mounting hardware |
| 09:34.52 | Blapto|Work | What? |
| 09:35.01 | Blapto|Work | Bits to attach stuff to 19" racks |
| 09:35.12 | Blapto|Work | Ahh, you need to talk to accessories |
| 09:35.16 | Blapto|Work | Can you put me through? |
| 09:35.24 | Blapto|Work | No, and I don't know their number. *click* |
| 09:35.43 | Leeds | "This discount coupon has neither any express or implied association with nor endorsement from The Walt Disney Company or any of the Disney Winnie the Pooh characters" |
| 09:36.03 | Leeds | if I read that correctly, they are making very sure that you know that Eeyore does not endorse this particular promotion... |
| 09:36.16 | Blapto|Work | And piglet |
| 09:36.19 | Leeds | true |
| 09:36.24 | SlammerXP | and Christopher Robin |
| 09:36.59 | Leeds | who is now apparently a girl |
| 09:37.02 | mozrat | and tigger too! |
| 09:37.27 | Blapto|Work | Christopher Robin is a girl? |
| 09:37.31 | Leeds | yes |
| 09:37.33 | Leeds | well, almost |
| 09:37.56 | Blapto|Work | How can you almost be a girl? |
| 09:38.01 | Blapto|Work | I'll ask George! |
| 09:38.15 | Leeds | "In December 2005, Disney announced that Pooh's friend and owner Christopher Robin would be replaced by a 6-year-old "tomboyish" red-haired girl for the future Disney Channel animated television series, My Friends Tigger & Pooh" |
| 09:38.27 | Leeds | "Contrary to published reports, Darby has not replaced Christopher Robin, who will still appear intermittently in the series." |
| 09:38.55 | Blapto|Work | Damn, I'm going to hate watching that series |
| 09:44.58 | Leeds | hmm... the wrong kind of electricity on the line: "A lightning strike at York station hits signalling and halts train services at morning rush hour." |
| 09:53.38 | morsing | George is a girl |
| 09:53.41 | morsing | eye69! |
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| 10:26.06 | Blapto|Work | maplin have rack mounting hardware! Just none of their staff actually know it. |
| 10:27.33 | huw-l | I was in a large B&Q the other day and saw a half-height 19" network rack designed for putting in a cupboard/closet |
| 10:30.36 | morsing | Cope! |
| 10:33.01 | Cope | rar morsing |
| 10:33.40 | Blapto|Work | gzip morsing |
| 10:42.59 | Lotto-Kim | huw-l: nice one:) i made a grill out of a computer once |
| 10:45.32 | morsing | http://www.national-lottery.co.uk/ |
| 11:02.21 | wethrin | hello |
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| 11:17.01 | SlammerXP | ryan cartwright will be popular |
| 11:17.43 | SlammerXP | you average techie _hates_ duplicating information, so making one cut and paste chunk of their CV into a form isn't going to make him any friends |
| 11:20.08 | keithlard | VPN terror! |
| 11:20.28 | wethrin | Who here's going to join me in Chimes next week? |
| 11:20.40 | keithlard | why isn't dns working??? |
| 11:20.43 | morsing | wethrin: Me me me me me |
| 11:21.04 | wethrin | t Windows, no, it is not polite to pop up a box reminding me to reboot, with the reboot button set as default, when I'm typing |
| 11:21.13 | wethrin | morsing: Yay! As long as I'm not alone there :) |
| 11:22.24 | wethrin | keithlard: It works for me |
| 11:22.30 | morsing | wethrin: Which day? |
| 11:22.35 | wethrin | morsing: Friday |
| 11:22.40 | morsing | Date? |
| 11:22.48 | wethrin | 25th |
| 11:22.56 | wethrin | Does your phone number still end 574? |
| 11:22.58 | morsing | Should be ok |
| 11:23.01 | morsing | Yes |
| 11:23.02 | wethrin | Excellent |
| 11:23.10 | morsing | Is RandomGuy coming? |
| 11:23.11 | wethrin | I'll text you when I've landed at LGW |
| 11:23.14 | wethrin | RandomGuy? |
| 11:23.19 | morsing | Kevin something |
| 11:23.26 | wethrin | rhowe's boss? |
| 11:23.30 | wethrin | dunno |
| 11:24.00 | wethrin | I've sent out the email. If you could send out a reminder next week, it'd be much appreciated :) |
| 11:24.06 | morsing | Sure |
| 11:24.20 | wethrin | thanks. I won't be online next week |
| 11:24.23 | morsing | :( |
| 11:24.34 | wethrin | Will be in foreign countries! |
| 11:29.46 | morsing | Spain? |
| 11:29.51 | wethrin | Latvia |
| 11:29.58 | morsing | Buy a Treo |
| 11:30.46 | merlinn_ | everyone should buy a treo |
| 11:31.06 | wethrin | Whatever happened to Trio chocolates? |
| 11:31.11 | wethrin | Or Clubs, for that matter |
| 11:31.17 | merlinn_ | they still sell clubs |
| 11:31.23 | wethrin | They do? |
| 11:31.27 | merlinn_ | but you only seem to get them in road side cafe's |
| 11:31.29 | morsing | Mmm... Club |
| 11:31.34 | keithlard | oh it is just i do not know how vpns work, and people are saying the dns is not happening |
| 11:31.49 | merlinn_ | the dns? |
| 11:31.51 | morsing | keithlard: Ping |
| 11:31.54 | merlinn_ | what has that to do with the vpn? |
| 11:32.08 | wethrin | Maybe the vpn isn't passing UDP packets |
| 11:34.47 | keithlard | pongggg |
| 11:34.56 | morsing | keithlard: So that worked? |
| 11:35.22 | keithlard | i don't know yet... it's a bit difficult debugging something i know nothing about, that i can't see |
| 11:35.32 | keithlard | i've asked them to ping the dns server and try nslookup |
| 11:35.57 | keithlard | it is windows!!! horror |
| 11:37.29 | wethrin | Gah! |
| 11:37.36 | wethrin | Get them to install a real OS with bind |
| 11:41.33 | morsing | Me Baas |
| 11:41.42 | morsing | What? |
| 11:44.41 | keithlard | vpns suck |
| 11:45.19 | wethrin | Okay. Time for me to go. May still be on for a short while tonight. If not, see people next week in Chimes! |
| 11:45.34 | morsing | wethrin: Check it! |
| 11:45.43 | wethrin | yeah |
| 11:45.48 | morsing | ? :( |
| 11:46.03 | wethrin | checkin'! |
| 11:46.32 | wethrin | bye! |
| 11:47.34 | keithlard | ooh that is intresting about the half-height rack |
| 11:47.37 | keithlard | we could use one of those |
| 11:50.25 | keithlard | do you think we can put a 24-port gigabit switch in a small storage cupboard with no air conditioning, or is it going to turn it into a pizza oven |
| 11:51.24 | Lotto-Kim | No, dont thing its going to be so hot |
| 11:51.49 | Lotto-Kim | 30c maby |
| 11:52.54 | keithlard | :) |
| 12:15.35 | Lotto-Kim | bbq -> http://kim.oyer.biz/bilder/div/grill/IMG_2537.jpg |
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| 12:17.58 | morsing | boudiccas! |
| 12:26.38 | boudiccas | damned overheating periodically dropping me out of kde :(((( |
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| 12:43.17 | morsing | Cope! |
| 12:43.24 | Cope | o |
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| 13:06.35 | z00dax | sabinef72: ! |
| 13:07.10 | sabinef72 | helloooo |
| 13:07.18 | sabinef72 | your favorite froggy is back |
| 13:07.44 | z00dax | I have a fav frog ? musta missed da memo |
| 13:08.24 | sabinef72 | no ? |
| 13:08.29 | z00dax | yes ? |
| 13:08.32 | sabinef72 | I'm not your favorite frog ? |
| 13:08.32 | z00dax | why frog ? |
| 13:08.34 | boudiccas | hello kermit |
| 13:08.41 | sabinef72 | hi boudiccas |
| 13:08.45 | boudiccas | :) |
| 13:08.53 | z00dax | kermit ? as in C-kermit ? doh! Zmodem rulz! |
| 13:09.11 | boudiccas | kermit the frog from the Muppets |
| 13:09.11 | sabinef72 | z00dax: every english people says that french are frog |
| 13:09.20 | z00dax | I am not English :) |
| 13:09.29 | sabinef72 | z00dax: oopsssssssss |
| 13:09.36 | morsing | sabinef72! |
| 13:09.38 | SlammerXP | sabine! my second favourite frogette! |
| 13:09.40 | boudiccas | they eat frogs legs, they're frogs :) |
| 13:09.41 | z00dax | ok back to work |
| 13:09.50 | morsing | I thought you weren't coming back :) |
| 13:09.59 | sabinef72 | morsing !!!!!!!!!!!!!! |
| 13:10.03 | morsing | :) |
| 13:10.19 | sabinef72 | morsing: yes I'm back for the week end then I'll go out again |
| 13:10.42 | morsing | :( |
| 13:10.58 | morsing | sabinef72: Are you coming for food and drink with wethrin next week? |
| 13:11.35 | sabinef72 | I didn't know I'm invited for something |
| 13:11.42 | sabinef72 | what will happen next week ? |
| 13:13.54 | sabinef72 | morsing: ? |
| 13:21.02 | morsing | sabinef72: wethrin is back from far away and we're meeting at a place with good food (by english standards) |
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| 13:22.17 | morsing | asht_007! |
| 13:22.30 | phearless | ! |
| 13:22.43 | sabinef72 | morsing: but you know I'm living far from London |
| 13:23.31 | sabinef72 | morsing: a place with good food in england ? Is it possible ? |
| 13:23.46 | asht_007 | hello morsing |
| 13:24.01 | phearless | morsing: you should write a script that do onjoin{ /say $nick ! } or something like that |
| 13:24.31 | phearless | sabinef72: yes, in the foreign restaurants |
| 13:24.58 | phearless | sabinef72: there are many many excellent *foreign* *non-english* restaurants |
| 13:25.03 | sabinef72 | phearless: aha ha |
| 13:25.42 | morsing | phearless: I tried to programme something in the Perl IRC package but it didn't work |
| 13:25.50 | phearless | xchat ? |
| 13:26.03 | morsing | sabinef72: It's difficult to find good food here, even in foreign restaurents |
| 13:28.07 | SlammerXP | try norway |
| 13:28.15 | SlammerXP | the food just sucks generally |
| 13:28.30 | sabinef72 | my favorite food is chinese food |
| 13:29.32 | SlammerXP | i make a superb hong kong style sweet and sour * |
| 13:29.39 | SlammerXP | chicken especially |
| 13:29.58 | sabinef72 | :-) |
| 13:33.17 | Blapto|Work | I'm eating quite a nice pret yoghurty thing |
| 13:33.22 | Blapto|Work | But that's not quite food |
| 13:33.47 | antiphase | Nothing from pret is proper food. It's /ponce fuel/ |
| 13:34.06 | Blapto|Work | I've got 6 servers to install in 3 hours |
| 13:34.14 | Blapto|Work | All the fuel I can get is good |
| 13:34.54 | phearless | <Blapto|Work> I'm eating quite a nice pret yoghurty thing |
| 13:35.07 | phearless | english yoghourts are bwwwwweark ! |
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| 13:51.35 | sabinef72 | mozrat: where are you ???????? You didn't reply to my emails ! |
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| 14:14.32 | JAV | hello! |
| 14:15.43 | morsing | JAV! |
| 14:24.02 | phearless | where are the fucking tftp-server logs on fedora core 5 ??!!! |
| 14:24.18 | phearless | this distro drive me crazy |
| 14:24.41 | SlammerXP | /usr/local/etc/var/log/tftpd-server/logs/ |
| 14:24.46 | SlammerXP | or thereabouts |
| 14:25.20 | keithlard_ | !! |
| 14:26.17 | SlammerXP | maybe an extra /rc.d/ or /local/ or /n in there too |
| 14:28.16 | eyore | locate tftpd |grep log |
| 14:28.33 | SlammerXP | deary me |
| 14:28.37 | morsing | phearless: AIX |
| 14:28.42 | SlammerXP | assuming a log file on redhat will have "log" in the filename :) |
| 14:28.53 | eyore | or path |
| 14:29.25 | eyore | i find "some" distros dont' even enable locate by default |
| 14:31.10 | Blapto|Work | I have a new favourite tool |
| 14:31.25 | Blapto|Work | It's a thing pickeruper |
| 14:31.47 | phearless | [root@ouistiti:~]# updatedb && locate tftpd |grep log |
| 14:31.47 | phearless | [root@ouistiti:~]# |
| 14:32.00 | phearless | it is nowhere |
| 14:32.10 | phearless | I may need to enable logging, i do not know |
| 14:32.31 | phearless | tftp-server is started via xinetd, it may be special |
| 14:33.46 | eyore | i've got a feeling it's redirected stdout in an init script |
| 14:33.49 | eyore | or something |
| 14:34.31 | eyore | what's this for, etherboot |
| 14:34.33 | eyore | ? |
| 14:34.52 | phearless | to update voip phones |
| 14:35.14 | eyore | okay |
| 14:36.12 | Cope | It must be friday afternoon. |
| 14:36.19 | z00dax | phearless: are you sure its not logging to syslog ? |
| 14:36.26 | Cope | My database has fucked up again. |
| 14:36.31 | phearless | you mean /var/log/messages ? |
| 14:39.05 | z00dax | phearless: that is where i'd look first |
| 14:39.15 | phearless | me too |
| 14:39.19 | phearless | and it is not here |
| 14:39.40 | z00dax | add a couple of -v's to the start line |
| 14:40.37 | phearless | okay |
| 14:41.41 | keithlard_ | ah, cope, i've been expecting you :) |
| 14:42.03 | SlammerXP | cope: mysql? |
| 14:42.11 | morsing | Cope: reading back what? |
| 14:43.09 | phearless | <z00dax> add a couple of -v's to the start line |
| 14:43.13 | phearless | you are the man |
| 14:43.19 | phearless | IT WORKS ! |
| 14:44.24 | z00dax | yay! |
| 14:47.10 | eyore | anyone use tomcat? unlikely i know |
| 14:47.29 | SlammerXP | i used it once, briefly |
| 14:47.45 | SlammerXP | and quickly had it replaced with non-java-nonsense |
| 14:47.50 | eyore | heh |
| 14:47.55 | eyore | okay you aren't going to be able to help then |
| 14:48.07 | SlammerXP | apt-get install apache2 |
| 14:48.21 | SlammerXP | "if java is the answer, it was a fucking stupid question" |
| 14:48.23 | eyore | i have removed apache and replaced it with squid |
| 14:50.37 | eyore | Well maybe one day the .NET implementation on linux will be more mature and i can use that instead. |
| 14:51.03 | Cope | you aren't making any sense |
| 14:51.09 | eyore | sarcasm. |
| 14:51.18 | Cope | where? |
| 14:53.06 | sabinef72 | Cope !!!!!!! |
| 14:54.43 | Cope | hello sabinef72 |
| 14:58.25 | morsing | Cope! |
| 14:59.16 | eyore | ah, i may have found the app manager. yay |
| 15:01.35 | morsing | eyore: Yuck |
| 15:06.48 | Cope | hiya morsing |
| 15:09.18 | eyore | And what language do you prefer Cope? |
| 15:11.20 | Cope | Programming language? |
| 15:11.41 | Cope | I use and like python very much. |
| 15:13.57 | z00dax | (py)++ |
| 15:14.06 | merlinn_ | python makes you cool! |
| 15:14.14 | z00dax | just not if you need to do lots of coderuns' - in which case, its just as slow as whtever you might want to do |
| 15:14.16 | merlinn_ | lisp makes you cool too, but it also makes you totally pointless |
| 15:14.39 | z00dax | some of .py stuff runs a lot ( and i mean a lot ) quicker on IronPython / boa - but then, you need .net underings for that |
| 15:15.27 | eyore | python is good, code libraries, performance and IDE a bit lacking compared to java at the moment though |
| 15:15.42 | eyore | one has to make compromises in life |
| 15:17.49 | eyore | maybe if java is ever "open sourced" python could be ported to run on the jvm |
| 15:17.52 | keithlard_ | i think that's comparing apples and oranges |
| 15:17.54 | eyore | and the speed would be faster |
| 15:18.01 | keithlard_ | python and java aren't really in the same market |
| 15:18.18 | eyore | Well it depends if you use python to write little non OO scripts or zope to create large java like apps. |
| 15:18.35 | keithlard_ | although there is a 'jython' which lets python use the java libs :) |
| 15:18.39 | eyore | but python could compete with java in the large OO apps area. |
| 15:18.48 | eyore | yeah i had a play with jython |
| 15:19.24 | eyore | one of the cool things is that is allows you to interface with java with effectively dynamic typing |
| 15:19.28 | eyore | which is really weird. |
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| 16:16.56 | Leeds | okay, that weather is abso-fucking-lutely ridiculous |
| 16:17.30 | Leeds | out of nowhere, while I was in the pub, a tropical thunderstorm blew in |
| 16:18.13 | Leeds | lots and lots of flashes and bangs, and since I didn't have a brolly, I look and feel like I've just been in the shower with all my clothes on |
| 16:20.52 | boudiccas | Leeds; put yourself in the dryer then :)))) |
| 16:22.52 | Leeds | we were sitting in a bar, on the escalator, when a bloke walked past pushing a hand trolley, wearing a box on his head |
| 16:23.19 | boudiccas | he was obviously boxing clever then :))) |
| 16:24.01 | Leeds | I pointed him out to my mates, and they pointed out that it was absolutely chucking it down out... |
| 16:25.24 | Leeds | we couldn't have been in the bar more than 15 minutes, and there wasn't the slightest suggestion of rain when we walked in |
| 16:26.12 | boudiccas | you didn't listen to the weather report then did you? Even the BBC siad we were going to have rain in the East today! :) |
| 16:26.18 | boudiccas | *said |
| 16:26.33 | Leeds | for the record, he may have been wearing a box on his head, but he was topless - so he wasn't exactly wrapped up against the weather... |
| 16:26.49 | boudiccas | lol |
| 16:27.05 | Leeds | the HKO (Observatory - met office) didn't suggest once today that there may be storms tonight |
| 16:27.12 | Leeds | wow, that's pretty loud... |
| 16:27.21 | boudiccas | not storms, just rain :)))) |
| 16:27.28 | keithlard_ | it's really raining here today as well! |
| 16:27.34 | Leeds | oh, no - this is a serious storm |
| 16:27.34 | keithlard_ | and i've to cycle home in this lot! :S |
| 16:27.45 | boudiccas | not in maidstone though, for once |
| 16:27.58 | Leeds | since I got home, they've now issued a heavy rain warning to go with the thunderstorm warning which was already out |
| 16:28.13 | keithlard_ | help |
| 16:28.20 | boudiccas | i swear that maidstone has its own micro-climate, totally separate and different from the rest of the country |
| 16:28.24 | Leeds | keithlard_: ugh |
| 16:28.51 | Leeds | for the record though, this is real tropical weather - and I am in the tropics |
| 16:29.10 | boudiccas | fairy enough :) |
| 16:32.22 | Leeds | okay, when there's less than a second between the flash and the bang, that means...? |
| 16:33.12 | Leeds | and these aren't "flash, then a bang, then wait a couple/few/bunch minutes for another one" - looking out the window, the sky is strobing |
| 16:35.46 | Leeds | it's incredible :-) |
| 16:38.46 | Leeds | seriously - go to http://www.hko.gov.hk/wxinfo/llis/index.htm |
| 18:02.04 | sabinef72 | Leeds ! |
