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`00:37.59`	`z00dax`	`mozrat: !`
`00:38.10`	`z00dax`	`goto sleep you insomanic, me`
`00:38.12`	`z00dax`	`zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz`
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`06:38.05`	`mozrat`	`moin`
`06:39.28`	`morsing`	`morning`
`06:39.41`	`morsing`	`Would it be a bad idea to set my shell to be screen?`
`06:40.41`	`morsing`	`mozrat?`
`06:40.44`	`morsing`	`Leeds?`
`06:40.45`	`mozrat`	`I think so... doesn't screen invoke your default shell?`
`06:40.55`	`mozrat`	`yes?`
`06:40.58`	`morsing`	`mozrat: Yes`
`06:41.06`	`morsing`	`What do you mean? Why is it bad?`
`06:41.19`	`mozrat`	`so if your default shell is screen.....`
`06:41.37`	`morsing`	`Yes?`
`06:41.39`	`mozrat`	`toast!`
`06:41.49`	`morsing`	`Eh... Ohhh yes, I see`
`06:41.54`	`morsing`	`:(`
`06:42.02`	`morsing`	`Good thing I asked first )`
`06:42.04`	`morsing`	`:)`
`06:43.04`	`morsing`	`How are you?`
`06:45.32`	`mozrat`	`not bad`
`06:45.36`	`mozrat`	`tired`
`06:46.30`	`mozrat`	`need tea`
`06:52.17`	`morsing`	`Coffee?`
`06:53.36`	`morsing`	`ibot wake Leeds`
`06:53.38`	`ibot`	`ACTION throws a barrel-full of ice water on Leeds and shouts "GOOD MORNING!!!!"`
`06:56.15`	`morsing`	`Leeds: So you were not sleeping just now?`
`06:56.24`	`Leeds`	`no, I was not sleeping`
`06:56.54`	`Leeds`	`if you must know, I was playing sudoku on the loo`
`06:57.08`	`morsing`	`Nice`
`06:57.17`	`Leeds`	`sweaty`
`06:57.50`	`mozrat`	`hey Leeds`
`06:58.01`	`morsing`	`Leeds: When are you coming back again? 24th?`
`06:58.08`	`Leeds`	`landing early on the 27th`
`06:58.21`	`morsing`	`Ahh... I may or may not be in Brummieland`
`06:58.51`	`Leeds`	`hmm...`
`06:59.05`	`mozrat`	`Leeds, please post some sort of a plan to Gllug-Social`
`06:59.09`	`Leeds`	`what could possibly drag you so far north?`
`06:59.14`	`Leeds`	`mozrat: plan? what plan? I have no plan...`
`06:59.31`	`mozrat`	`Leeds, make one!`
`06:59.37`	`Leeds`	`I don't even know what country I'll be spending the night in on the 27th!`
`07:00.10`	`Leeds`	`yesterday, I gave a 'maybe' to a dinner invite for Thursday night, because it's too far ahead to plan`
`07:01.05`	`mozrat`	`BE MORE ORGANISED!`
`07:01.28`	`Leeds`	`no!!!`
`07:06.01`	`Leeds`	`I'm waiting for a confirmation from morsing that he's going to come pick me up... :-)`
`07:09.04`	`mozrat`	`Where in mailman do I set a list to be moderated or not??`
`07:10.59`	`Leeds`	`hades is wethrin's box, right?`
`07:12.36`	`mozrat`	`thunk so`
`07:12.59`	`Leeds`	`someone on it is polling my blog with rawdog...`
`07:13.57`	`mozrat`	`Where is SlayerXP when you need him`
`07:14.51`	`Leeds`	`in bed... not at work yet... actually - gasp! - working... Norway...`
`07:19.43`	`mozrat`	`Leeds, any idea which option in mailman I should be looking at?`
`07:20.07`	`mozrat`	`I want posts from non-members to be held`
`07:20.46`	`Leeds`	`it's a long time since I looked at a mailman admin interface, I'm sorry to say`
`07:21.53`	`Leeds`	`if you want to point me at it, I'm happy to have a look :-)`
`07:22.54`	`mozrat`	`Gah - Either somebody, or some random alignment of planets set it up so ONLY MY POSTS were being moderated`
`07:23.02`	`Leeds`	`lol`
`07:23.05`	`mozrat`	`I think I've been tricked`
`07:23.08`	`mozrat`	`bastards`
`07:24.08`	`Leeds`	`?`
`07:24.52`	`mozrat`	`The list was already setup for members to post correctly - someone had set just my subscription up to be moderated`
`07:24.56`	`mozrat`	`Don't worry`
`07:24.59`	`Leeds`	`'someone'?`
`07:25.14`	`mozrat`	`It's an internal list server`
`07:26.05`	`Leeds`	`ah, I thought you were talking about one of the GLLUG lists...`
`07:26.36`	`Leeds`	`have you been naughty? did someone do it to stop you sending porn and racist jokes to the whole company?`
`07:26.51`	`mozrat`	`someone being silly I suspect`
`07:27.42`	`mozrat`	`Or probably thinking that clicking the "mod" box next to my name made me a moderator`
`07:27.50`	`mozrat`	`when it moderates me`
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`07:28.48`	`Leeds`	`heh`
`07:39.04`	`morsing`	`SlammerXP!`
`07:40.37`	`SlammerXP`	`morsiNG!`
`07:41.09`	`Leeds`	`morsiDS9!`
`07:51.57`	`morsing`	`Check it!`
`07:54.36`	`mozrat`	`OK - I have the audio recording of Shanes talk on Saturday. Does anyone have an objection in posting it to the website in Ogg format only?`
`07:54.46`	`mozrat`	`Is that a bit exclusive?`
`07:54.51`	`Leeds`	`not at all`
`07:54.56`	`Leeds`	`I assume you have permission from him`
`07:55.04`	`mozrat`	`Yes, I spoke to him yesterday`
`07:55.25`	`mozrat`	`He said we can use it under a public domain licence (which I'll make clear on the website)`
`07:56.26`	`morsing`	`Beer`
`07:56.36`	`mozrat`	`Speech`
`07:57.42`	`mozrat`	`Shane is a nice bloke - he stayed at my house on Saturday night`
`07:58.00`	`mozrat`	`I thought that was the least I could do as he had taken a coach from Dublin to London to speak to us`
`07:59.45`	`Leeds`	`wow`
`08:01.21`	`SlammerXP`	`our phone system here is awful`
`08:01.26`	`SlammerXP`	`even if the phones do run linux`
`08:03.03`	`mozrat`	`The phones do, or the PBX does?`
`08:05.24`	`SlammerXP`	`the phones do`
`08:05.39`	`SlammerXP`	`you get "booting linux 2.4.3" on the display as they come up`
`08:07.17`	`mozrat`	`interesting`
`08:07.30`	`mozrat`	`which model of phone/distro are they running?`
`08:08.38`	`SlammerXP`	`the brand is "snom"`
`08:08.53`	`SlammerXP`	`it's unlikely to be a distro of any kind`
`08:08.54`	`mozrat`	`oh`
`08:09.15`	`mozrat`	`yeah, true :)`
`08:09.17`	`SlammerXP`	`i would guess uclinux is the best candidate`
`08:09.24`	`*** join/#gllug Cope (n=3ebd3982@mozrat01.vm.bytemark.co.uk)`
`08:09.38`	`SlammerXP`	`that's titchy and designed for embedded work`
`08:11.11`	`Cope`	`moin`
`08:12.19`	`mozrat`	`hey Cope`
`08:13.17`	`Cope`	`hello mozrat`
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`08:47.47`	`morsing`	`Cope: I keep chasing Anix to analyse the dump ut there's only so much I can do :(`
`08:48.18`	`morsing`	`wethrin: Your server is down again`
`08:48.22`	`morsing`	`ping Cope`
`08:49.56`	`Cope`	`yo`
`08:51.01`	`Cope`	`morsing: what SLA do you have from Anix? We really need core dump analysis asap - I need to give the business and RFO, and you (Attenda) will look crap if I have to put in the report that we have no input from our hosting provider.`
`08:51.39`	`Cope`	`So if necessary, escalate and get your boss or someone else to apply pressure.`
`08:52.57`	`SlammerXP`	`or threaten to stick rusty nails through their eyeballs`
`08:53.07`	`Cope`	`that works`
`08:53.35`	`Cope`	`on a separate thread, any suggestions for why sharepoint would be a shit version control system for our developers?`
`08:53.44`	`Cope`	`am trying to convince that I should set up a svn repo`
`08:56.03`	`huw-l`	`Cope: it's expensive and relies on ActiveX?#`
`08:56.06`	`z00dax`	`setup svn anyway, and get them started on it.....`
`08:59.15`	`Cope`	`huw-l: we already have it... it is used for document management`
`08:59.35`	`Cope`	`so PHB will say: we have paid a lot of money for an enterprise class version control system - let's use it`
`09:03.09`	`huw-l`	`Cope: it's a document management system not a code management system?`
`09:03.42`	`huw-l`	`wouldn't know as I've never used it. We are only just moving people off CVS onto SVN here`
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`09:08.49`	`morsing`	`puckman!`
`09:08.53`	`morsing`	`Cope: Happy?`
`09:09.07`	`morsing`	`Cope: Who's Paul Witchard?`
`09:09.14`	`Cope`	`that's excellent, thanks morsing`
`09:09.37`	`Cope`	`Paul works with me and Dave - VMS background`
`09:10.41`	`huw-l`	`Cope: is this sharepoint and VSS or just sharepoint?`
`09:14.40`	`Cope`	`just sharepoint`
`09:14.49`	`Cope`	`aparently other folk use clearcase`
`09:14.52`	`Cope`	`never hesard of that`
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`09:17.05`	`Leeds`	`source code management?`
`09:17.10`	`Cope`	`yeah`
`09:17.46`	`morsing`	`Blapto\|Work!`
`09:17.50`	`Blapto\|Work`	`morsing!`
`09:19.40`	`Leeds`	`we used clearcase at SCO - I can't comment on how it might have changed in the 6 years since, but it was interesting then - implemented as a filesystem, with versioning, permissions and so on being displayed through the standard filesystem interfaces - but controlled by official tools, obviously`
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`09:21.48`	`Leeds`	`the way we did it, at least, was that to read, you just looked at read-only files in the filesystem, but to write, you had to lock it, copy your new file into place, then unlock it again`
`09:21.55`	`huw-l`	`Cope: tell your PHB that sharepoint isn't meant for code-control and he needs to spend 5k per seat for Team System`
`09:22.10`	`Cope`	`huw-l is that a license issue?`
`09:22.14`	`huw-l`	`or no pounds and no pence on subversion`
`09:22.20`	`Cope`	`as in it is forbidden to use for code control`
`09:22.36`	`huw-l`	`it's what MS reccomends for source control these days`
`09:22.44`	`Leeds`	`what, SVN?`
`09:22.57`	`huw-l`	`Team System :)`
`09:23.23`	`huw-l`	`although the idea of MS reccomending SVN has cheered me up`
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`09:24.12`	`Leeds`	`my machine had been up for 225 days until he decided he should really know how to reboot it, or bring it up, once I'm gone :-)`
`09:24.46`	`huw-l`	`Leeds: machines should be rebooted often. It gives their processors a rest`
`09:25.41`	`Blapto\|Work`	`Processors aren't just a truck you can dump stuff on.`
`09:27.01`	`Leeds`	`they're a series of pipelines!`
`09:34.39`	`Blapto\|Work`	`you plotting?`
`09:34.48`	`morsing`	`Plot`
`09:35.49`	`Blapto\|Work`	`plot is a fun word to use`
`09:35.51`	`cpufreak`	`gunpowder`
`09:35.53`	`cpufreak`	`treason`
`09:35.55`	`Blapto\|Work`	`plot plot plot`
`09:37.12`	`Blapto\|Work`	`I got paid!`
`09:37.13`	`Blapto\|Work`	`Yay!`
`09:37.23`	`Blapto\|Work`	`I now have money to pay for the things I've already bought!`
`09:38.58`	`Cope`	`plot is indeed a fine word`
`09:44.56`	`morsing`	`Beer`
`09:46.28`	`Leeds`	`not quite - still about 2.5 hours until pub time`
`09:56.59`	`morsing`	`Moo`
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`10:05.45`	`Leeds`	`oops, reply-to-list`
`10:06.19`	`mozrat`	`whats the name of the pub we were in on Saturday?`
`10:06.28`	`mozrat`	`on Cleveland Street.. George and Dragon?`
`10:06.48`	`cbz`	`yes`
`10:06.54`	`mozrat`	`thanks`
`10:06.55`	`cbz`	`well, thats in cleveland street anyway`
`10:07.10`	`Leeds`	`they named a pub after him and angelchild?`
`10:07.25`	`morsing`	`mozrat!`
`10:07.29`	`morsing`	`cbz!`
`10:07.49`	`cbz`	`hello morsing`
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`10:09.25`	`Leeds`	`I would also quite like to know who is polling my blog with wordpress...`
`10:09.48`	`cbz`	`hello boudiccas`
`10:10.52`	`mozrat`	`http://www.gllug.org.uk/index.php?/archives/22-Review-Augusts-Meeting.html`
`10:11.04`	`Blapto\|Work`	`My computer assploded yesterday.`
`10:11.15`	`Blapto\|Work`	`Antec PSU BANG, smoke.`
`10:12.11`	`cbz`	`I spilled water on my computer yesterday`
`10:12.22`	`Blapto\|Work`	`did it die?`
`10:12.24`	`morsing`	`cbz: :(`
`10:12.41`	`cbz`	`no`
`10:12.44`	`cbz`	`it still lives`
`10:13.01`	`cbz`	`dived for the plug and pulled it as the water was dripping down`
`10:13.09`	`cbz`	`mopped up and ran a hair driver over the front.`
`10:13.27`	`Blapto\|Work`	`good drills`
`10:17.56`	`Blapto\|Work`	`I phoned up Antec and told them that their PSU tried to kill me, and they accused my mains supply.`
`10:18.10`	`cbz`	`Hah`
`10:18.21`	`Blapto\|Work`	`And want me to ship my motherboard and CPU across the world for testing before they'll think about replacing them if they're fried.`
`10:18.42`	`Blapto\|Work`	`They also claimed it was impossible for the PSU to kill components "So why do you have a testing procedure in the first place?" "Ummmm, errrr"`
`10:21.28`	`Leeds`	`Blapto\|Work: Taiwan?`
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`10:22.57`	`morsing`	`Erwin!`
`10:23.16`	`Erwin`	`morning`
`10:27.54`	`Blapto\|Work`	`Leeds, USA`
`10:28.10`	`Blapto\|Work`	`Next port of call is the supplier, and then Antec NL`
`10:28.23`	`cbz`	`Heh`
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`10:52.21`	`mozrat`	`...."Have you mooed today?"...`
`10:52.24`	`mozrat`	`<< bored, sorry`
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`10:53.02`	`wethrin`	`. <---- cow from very very far away`
`10:55.59`	`morsing`	`wethrin: What happened this time then?`
`10:58.08`	`wethrin`	`morsing: One of my users ran the machine out of memory`
`11:03.19`	`mozrat`	`Have them shot`
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`11:05.20`	`wethrin`	`Mmm....good plan`
`11:10.24`	`mozrat`	`Leeds, have you mooed today?`
`11:10.57`	`Leeds`	`hmmm... baaaaaa`
`11:11.22`	`mozrat`	`same commute, same canteen - just another job`
`11:11.54`	`wethrin`	`more interesting? Better pay?`
`11:12.04`	`Leeds`	`better people?`
`11:12.29`	`mozrat`	`more responsibility (mentoring junior engineers (kicking asses a little)), little bit more pay but that isn't the factor`
`11:12.34`	`mozrat`	`people I already know`
`11:12.59`	`mozrat`	`more project orientated than support and engineering`
`11:13.40`	`mozrat`	`Leeds, would you be interested in a soul destroying Windows job in HK?`
`11:13.48`	`mozrat`	`umm, forget I said Soul Destroying!`
`11:13.56`	`Leeds`	`the other is pro-rata-ed annual bonus... it's normal here to pay 1 month's salary as an annual bonus, and I've got about 65% of it`
`11:14.04`	`mozrat`	`and it isn't all windows, but quite a bit of it is`
`11:14.17`	`Leeds`	`mozrat: not yet - potentially in the future... but honestly, I'm not sure I could do a windows job at this point`
`11:14.36`	`mozrat`	`I don't think you'd be happy there 100% but if needs must - let me know`
`11:15.18`	`mozrat`	`oh, and new job has less prospect of travel, but my job here at the moment has dried up on that front anyway`
`11:15.38`	`Leeds`	`I actually mean 'could' in both senses - not sure I could bring myself to do it, but also not sure I actually have the skills to put myself forward for something primarily windows`
`11:16.30`	`Leeds`	`I've effectively not used windows - as an admin, a developer or a user - for years now`
`11:16.36`	`mozrat`	`Right`
`11:16.51`	`mozrat`	`This is not a bad thing of course :-)`
`11:17.21`	`Leeds`	`I think the only way I could live on windows - even for a short time, even for good cash, even as the only chance to stay in HK - would be to liberally douse it with cygwin/firefox/etc/et`
`11:17.56`	`Leeds`	`but then that would be entirely inappropriate in many cases`
`11:18.06`	`mozrat`	`Leeds: well - this job is working in a Network Operations Centre.. you wouldn't be using Windows all the time`
`11:18.21`	`mozrat`	`but the technologies you'd be fixing would be Windows based`
`11:18.37`	`mozrat`	`you could run $DISTRO_OF_CHOICE on your own machine ( I presume )`
`11:18.41`	`mozrat`	`I do :-)`
`11:19.09`	`Leeds`	`well... I think in a lot of companies it would just be seen as being too apart from the 'normal' stuff everyone else is using`
`11:19.21`	`Leeds`	`I think it's slightly the case with my soon-to-be-ex situation`
`11:19.33`	`mozrat`	`true`
`11:20.29`	`Leeds`	`anyway - I'm not there yet... for the record, I would put a windows job below a php job (i.e. I'd prefer php) but above as/400`
`11:20.40`	`mozrat`	`heh`
`11:22.07`	`Leeds`	`at least php is unix-ish - and the particular class of php jobs I'm thinking of - I know exist - would involve a bloke whose technical skills I respect enough to trust that he would try to mitigate some of the worst of the php`
`11:22.38`	`mozrat`	`where would you place a job of sendmail admin?`
`11:22.50`	`mozrat`	`Just for japes? I'm trying to guess your nightmare scenario`
`11:22.54`	`Leeds`	`probably somewhere below street sweeper :-)`
`11:23.05`	`mozrat`	`sendmail admin on Redhat 6.2?`
`11:23.05`	`Leeds`	`nah... full-time sendmail admin? does that exist?`
`11:23.15`	`mozrat`	`no idea :-)`
`11:23.22`	`Leeds`	`hey - I'm a dedicated slacker - I like it old-school :-)`
`11:23.42`	`mozrat`	`How about full time KDE developer working with George Wright as your supervisor?`
`11:24.16`	`Leeds`	`somewhere below sendmail admin...`
`11:25.19`	`mozrat`	`so we have "KDE devel -> Sendmail admin -> road sweeper -> AS/400 -> Windows -> PHP"`
`11:25.33`	`Leeds`	`yes`
`11:25.41`	`mozrat`	`Burger flipper at McDonalds?`
`11:25.50`	`mozrat`	`insert where appropiate`
`11:26.00`	`hali`	`hey, don't badmouth as/400!`
`11:26.09`	`mozrat`	`Would you rather work with George or flip big macs`
`11:26.57`	`Leeds`	`hali: it's an excrutiating piece of 'technology'`
`11:27.35`	`hali`	`very intiative and easy to use`
`11:27.41`	`hali`	`just prompt all your parameters`
`11:46.29`	`mozrat`	`pontifex: We are conversing across the country here today!`
`11:48.09`	`morsing`	`Leeds: You ignorant bastard`
`11:50.36`	`Leeds`	`and, of course, better any of that than go anywhere near AIX...`
`12:01.02`	`SlammerXP`	`see? iut's not just me that abuses george`
`12:01.04`	`SlammerXP`	`it's`
`12:02.44`	`danip`	`hali: I also worked with as/400 a few moths ago in my last job... didn't like it, sorry! :)`
`12:03.46`	`danip`	`Working on as400 you feel sodomized by IBM and his agressive licensing scheme.`
`12:04.36`	`hali`	`and that dreafull modem ratting to ibm about everything`
`12:05.02`	`hali`	`dialing in every few days to report whats it been up to`
`12:05.04`	`danip`	`At least you have the "qsh", wich sucks, btw.. X-)`
`12:05.21`	`cpufreak`	`if anyone wants to spend more time with AIX..(and linux), a mate's place is hiring`
`12:06.50`	`danip`	`hali: what do you use the "thing" for?`
`12:08.56`	`danip`	`For the price of an as/400 300bps modem, you can buy a quad-opteron! (Wel.. almost)`
`12:22.22`	`cpufreak`	`Cope: need a job?`
`12:23.15`	`cpufreak`	`oh ok`
`12:23.20`	`cpufreak`	`this one is in cambridge`
`12:23.30`	`Cope`	`oh really?`
`12:24.16`	`cpufreak`	`see pm.`
`12:24.23`	`cpufreak`	`oh`
`12:24.25`	`cpufreak`	`hrm`
`12:28.56`	`morsing`	`Cope: Do you??!?!`
`12:33.12`	`Cope`	`Do I what?`
`12:33.30`	`morsing`	`13:21 * Cope thinks aix is great.`
`12:35.13`	`z00dax`	`tragic!`
`12:35.58`	`z00dax`	`:D`
`12:36.04`	`Cope`	`Yes, I think it's super; Am enjoying using it.`
`12:36.15`	`morsing`	`:)`
`12:36.28`	`morsing`	`Cope: Do you have access to David's support emails?`
`12:37.04`	`morsing`	`I sent him a number of mails last week but got no reply`
`12:37.09`	`Cope`	`not sure what you mean? ones he sends you should go into the ticket; ones you send him should be sent to the distro, so I'd get them.`
`12:37.19`	`Cope`	`ah, if you send him ones just to him, I wouldn't see`
`12:37.32`	`morsing`	`Cope: ATTD123492`
`12:37.35`	`Cope`	`you should cc me directly, or use the cherp alerts distro`
`12:37.57`	`morsing`	`ATTD136813`
`12:38.01`	`morsing`	`'k`
`12:38.16`	`morsing`	`We really need to sort these tickets out...`
`12:38.37`	`morsing`	`ATTD137083`
`12:38.48`	`mozrat`	`Whats the relationship here? Morsing has broken Copes stuff?`
`12:38.54`	`Cope`	`k - i'll take a look this afternoon; got to sort out virtual printer first, then write RFO.`
`12:38.59`	`mozrat`	`ticket numbers are pretty meaningless for the rest of us :(`
`12:39.06`	`morsing`	`mozrat: Sorry`
`12:39.11`	`Cope`	`yes... sorry chaps`
`12:39.15`	`morsing`	`cherp alerts distro?`
`12:39.17`	`Blapto\|Work`	`mozrat!`
`12:39.20`	`mozrat`	`Don't be sorry! Just fix his shit!`
`12:39.21`	`morsing`	`Blapto\|Work!`
`12:39.24`	`mozrat`	`hey Blapto\|Work`
`12:39.25`	`morsing`	`:)`
`12:39.30`	`mozrat`	`how are you young padwan?`
`12:39.37`	`Blapto\|Work`	`I was wondering if you were reading the channel earlier.`
`12:39.47`	`Blapto\|Work`	`To test it, I slipped in "Good drills"`
`12:39.49`	`mozrat`	`earlier today? Probably`
`12:40.20`	`mozrat`	`B&Q sell good drills - what are you on about?`
`12:40.28`	`Blapto\|Work`	`Were you in the army?`
`12:40.35`	`mozrat`	`gah, yes. A lifetime ago`
`12:40.49`	`mozrat`	`I am now a bit podgy with an unfeasibly long beard`
`12:40.51`	`Blapto\|Work`	`"Good drills" wasn't something you heard about 15 times a day?`
`12:41.24`	`mozrat`	`Blapto\|Work: only people who drink the British Legion and Uncle Albert talk like they are in teh Army when in fact they left bloody years ago`
`12:41.37`	`mozrat`	`Cope, congrats`
`12:42.22`	`Blapto\|Work`	`mozrat, I suppose my only exposure (ooer) to ex forces are those who've joined the reserves.`
`12:42.26`	`Blapto\|Work`	`And you.`
`12:42.31`	`mozrat`	`Gosh, they are even worse`
`12:42.46`	`mozrat`	`Blapto\|Work: do you watch Bad Lads Army?`
`12:42.52`	`mozrat`	`if not - watch it tonight`
`12:42.56`	`Blapto\|Work`	`Oh?`
`12:42.59`	`mozrat`	`it is actually very realistic`
`12:43.09`	`Blapto\|Work`	`I do watch it on occasion`
`12:43.16`	`Blapto\|Work`	`The Cpls seem far too kind`
`12:43.21`	`mozrat`	`seriously - the instructors are just how they were, but I have no interest in anything remotely armyish nowdays`
`12:43.34`	`Blapto\|Work`	`And the S/Sgt seems a tiny bit ott from those I've met. He's more like a modern RSM`
`12:44.01`	`mozrat`	`Anyway - anyone compile any good kernels recently???`
`12:44.08`	`mozrat`	`(moving the conversation along)`
`12:44.34`	`Blapto\|Work`	`The current setup appears to be private -> friendly L/CPL -> Hardbastard CPL -> Fatherlike SGT + S/SGT -> Terrifying WO`
`12:45.13`	`mozrat`	`ibot mozrat also has no interest in the Army`
`12:45.27`	`mozrat`	`ibot?`
`12:45.35`	`mozrat`	`ibot wake up!`
`12:45.36`	`ibot`	`ACTION throws a barrel-full of ice water on up! and shouts "GOOD MORNING!!!!"`
`12:45.40`	`Blapto\|Work`	`The army talk sent him to sleep`
`12:45.45`	`mozrat`	`exactly`
`12:45.47`	`Blapto\|Work`	`ibot wake ibot`
`12:45.48`	`ibot`	`ACTION throws a barrel-full of ice water on ibot and shouts "GOOD MORNING!!!!"`
`12:55.32`	`Blapto\|Work`	`ibot mozrat`
`12:55.33`	`ibot`	`[mozrat] a geek, or pissed, or not morsing ALIVE!!!, or not a CNAME for morsing, or so pissed he can't update his factiod, or and we won!!!!!!, or not even Australian, or a piker`
`12:56.29`	`mozrat`	`I tend to update my factoid when drunk`
`12:56.55`	`Blapto\|Work`	`ibot blapto`
`12:56.56`	`ibot`	`well, blapto is the love of money, or the brother of SlammerXP`
`12:56.57`	`mozrat`	`the last time was when Australia beat Croatia in the World Cup`
`12:57.12`	`Blapto\|Work`	`Where does the love of money bit come from?`
`12:57.21`	`mozrat`	`Hmm, not sure`
`12:57.28`	`mozrat`	`You know what really pisses me off??`
`12:57.34`	`mozrat`	`as in... "really"`
`12:57.53`	`mozrat`	`ibot George`
`12:57.55`	`ibot`	`extra, extra, read all about it, george is gwright@kde.org and a KDE devel`
`12:58.06`	`mozrat`	`ibot George is also something else`
`12:58.07`	`ibot`	`mozrat: cannot alter locked factoids`
`12:58.12`	`mozrat`	`Grrrr`
`13:05.41`	`boudiccas`	`Blapto; the bible`
`13:06.15`	`mozrat`	`How do I remove facts from ibot again?`
`13:06.30`	`boudiccas`	`rub them out with an eraser`
`13:09.12`	`Cope`	`ibot cope`
`13:09.13`	`ibot`	`ACTION frowns, "I'm coping fine thank you."`
`13:09.14`	`mozrat`	`ibot forget mozrat is also a piker`
`13:09.14`	`ibot`	`mozrat: i didn't have anything called 'mozrat is also a piker' to forget`
`13:09.26`	`mozrat`	`ibot forget mozrat is a piker`
`13:09.26`	`ibot`	`mozrat: i didn't have anything called 'mozrat is a piker' to forget`
`13:09.52`	`mozrat`	`ibot forget a geek, or pissed, or not morsing ALIVE!!!, or not a CNAME for morsing, or so pissed he can't update his factiod, or and we won!!!!!!, or not even Australian, or a piker`
`13:09.52`	`ibot`	`i didn't have anything called 'a geek, or pissed, or not morsing alive!!!, or not a cname for morsing, or so pissed he can't update his factiod, or and we won!!!!!!, or not even australian, or a piker' to forget, mozrat`
`13:10.02`	`mozrat`	`ibot you are hopeless`
`13:10.04`	`ibot`	`mozrat: what are you talking about?`
`13:10.14`	`mozrat`	`ibot kill ibot`
`13:10.16`	`ibot`	`ACTION shoots a pseudoneutron gun at ibot`
`13:10.55`	`mozrat`	`ibot mozrat`
`13:10.57`	`ibot`	`[mozrat] a geek, or pissed, or not morsing ALIVE!!!, or not a CNAME for morsing, or so pissed he can't update his factiod, or and we won!!!!!!, or not even Australian, or a piker`
`13:12.33`	`pontifex`	`:)`
`13:12.50`	`pontifex`	`Am I thick?`
`13:13.23`	`mozrat`	`pontifex: not at all :-)`
`13:13.59`	`mozrat`	`pontifex: fancy talking at GLLUG sometime on $RANDOM_TOPIC ? I've seen some good talks being given at HantsLUG`
`13:14.08`	`mozrat`	`I might nag Hugo Mills as well`
`13:14.08`	`pontifex`	`erk`
`13:14.14`	`pontifex`	`yeah, sure`
`13:14.36`	`mozrat`	`I'm guessing you might be busy on Sept 16th :-)`
`13:14.59`	`pontifex`	`tony might also be interested now he's not chairman`
`13:15.17`	`mozrat`	`thats good to know`
`13:16.04`	`*** join/#gllug tonytiger (n=tony@streetend.force9.co.uk)`
`13:16.10`	`mozrat`	`hi tonytiger`
`13:16.19`	`tonytiger`	`Popey told me to come here.:)`
`13:16.25`	`tonytiger`	`Hi mozrat`
`13:16.38`	`pontifex`	`\o/`
`13:16.39`	`mozrat`	`mozrat == Simon Morris, btw`
`13:16.43`	`pontifex`	`poking stick works then`
`13:16.49`	`mozrat`	`lurker on HantsLUG`
`13:16.57`	`pontifex`	`heh`
`13:17.06`	`pontifex`	`you really aren't trying hard enough to lurk on hantslug`
`13:17.15`	`tonytiger`	`heh`
`13:17.19`	`mozrat`	`I was discussing with pontifex the best way to trick^H^H^H^H^H invite some people to speak at GLLUG somtime`
`13:17.20`	`pontifex`	`we have international olympic lurking competitors`
`13:17.28`	`mozrat`	`:-)`
`13:18.14`	`tonytiger`	`mozrat: I'd probably be up for it.`
`13:18.29`	`mozrat`	`tonytiger, excellent!`
`13:18.34`	`Blapto\|Work`	`mozrat, promise them beer?`
`13:18.34`	`mozrat`	`We offer free beer to speakers :-)`
`13:18.39`	`pontifex`	`o_O`
`13:18.46`	`pontifex`	`tony, why do we not do that?`
`13:19.25`	`Blapto\|Work`	`Have we ever had someone get drunk before the speech?`
`13:19.31`	`mozrat`	`tonytiger: I'm guessing we are all going to busy on Sept 16th (SFD) so can I ask you again after that date?`
`13:19.53`	`pontifex`	`i thought your meets were evening ones?`
`13:19.58`	`mozrat`	`s/to busy/to be/`
`13:20.11`	`mozrat`	`ack,`
`13:20.18`	`tonytiger`	`pontifex: Because our talks start at 11am? ;)`
`13:20.18`	`pontifex`	`handy`
`13:20.20`	`mozrat`	`pontifex: not always - we are flexible`
`13:20.32`	`pontifex`	`tonytiger opening time`
`13:20.40`	`mozrat`	`the last few have been Saturdays.. the couple before during the week`
`13:21.04`	`Blapto\|Work`	`Saturday midday meets require me to wake up and wash.`
`13:21.07`	`tonytiger`	`mozrat: Sure, ping me a mail or grab me on IRC. I'll be on this network (even if not in this channel)`
`13:21.15`	`mozrat`	`tonytiger: thanks :-)`
`13:25.11`	`mozrat`	`tonytiger: I didn't understand the outcome of the HantsLUG election...`
`13:25.17`	`mozrat`	`not enough attendees?`
`13:25.26`	`tonytiger`	`Basically.`
`13:25.49`	`mozrat`	`Isn't this going to be a problem when you get people like me who will possibly never attend a meeting on the mailing list?`
`13:25.56`	`tonytiger`	`Yup.`
`13:26.07`	`tonytiger`	`Not that I'd want you to not be on the list.`
`13:26.10`	`mozrat`	`the mailing list numbers would swell but the voter base doesn't`
`13:26.14`	`mozrat`	`:-)`
`13:26.17`	`tonytiger`	`We just need to come up with a better definition.`
`13:26.27`	`mozrat`	`Maybe tiered membership`
`13:26.52`	`mozrat`	`I'm on a lot of mailing lists - I wouldn't consider myself a member of the LUG unless I actually show my face once in a while`
`13:27.22`	`pontifex`	`what defines a member though`
`13:27.32`	`pontifex`	`someone who contributes massively to the list but never turns up?`
`13:27.38`	`pontifex`	`is it fair they get not voting rights?`
`13:27.44`	`pontifex`	`it's always been a sticky wicket`
`13:28.33`	`mozrat`	`nods`
`13:29.11`	`mozrat`	`So what comes next for the process? You have another election?`
`13:29.14`	`pontifex`	`yes`
`13:29.15`	`pontifex`	`EGM`
`13:29.36`	`pontifex`	`we have an interim chairman and two new members of the committee replacing the outgoing lot`
`13:29.38`	`mozrat`	`Right`
`13:29.45`	`mozrat`	`Right, PaulT`
`13:29.47`	`pontifex`	`who may all stay in office`
`13:29.48`	`pontifex`	`yes`
`13:30.10`	`tonytiger`	`And pontifex.`
`13:30.46`	`mozrat`	`I see`
`13:30.59`	`mozrat`	`I went to the London Mac User Group last night - they have a similar setup`
`13:31.17`	`pontifex`	`hehe`
`13:31.23`	`pontifex`	`MUG titter`
`13:31.31`	`tonytiger`	`heh`
`13:31.47`	`mozrat`	`Yeah, they discussed "MUGs" quite a lot at one stage without a flicker of humour`
`13:31.57`	`tonytiger`	`$technician here takes the piss out of $mac_technician endlessly, but has just ordered a mac for home :)`
`13:31.59`	`mozrat`	`They have a lot of lady members`
`13:32.06`	`mozrat`	`maybe 20%`
`13:32.27`	`mozrat`	`and also the age bracket was interesting - at least 6 ladies of retirement age`
`13:32.38`	`mozrat`	`interesting demographics for a tech group`
`13:32.46`	`tonytiger`	`Was it very technical?`
`13:33.13`	`mozrat`	`Humm, not really. They are into application level home support type stuff`
`13:33.33`	`mozrat`	`they were running some "Special interest groups" last night so I sat in the introduction to Unix group`
`13:33.44`	`Blapto\|Work`	`HLUG appeals to me for when I move down to Dartmouth :D`
`13:33.48`	`mozrat`	`the choice was also iPhoto, Intro to OSX, Using Word etc`
`13:34.05`	`mozrat`	`Blapto\|Work: HLUG? HantsLUG?`
`13:34.13`	`Blapto\|Work`	`Yes`
`13:34.22`	`mozrat`	`Be careful :-)`
`13:34.47`	`Blapto\|Work`	`Or I could just get the train up to London every once in a while`
`13:34.50`	`Blapto\|Work`	`about 3 hours`
`13:35.17`	`mozrat`	`Actually HantsLUG is a good list to be on, not just saying it because of the guys in channel`
`13:36.04`	`Blapto\|Work`	`The idea is that when living at Dartmouth, I'd be spending huge amounts of time in Portsmouth and Torbay, etc.`
`13:36.21`	`Blapto\|Work`	`Them being the places with big grey floaty things`
`13:36.21`	`pontifex`	`heh`
`13:36.26`	`Blapto\|Work`	`Or Torbay has more sinky things`
`13:36.31`	`mozrat`	`Blapto\|Work: whales?`
`13:36.40`	`Blapto\|Work`	`Yes.`
`13:36.44`	`Blapto\|Work`	`Drivable whales.`
`13:36.58`	`Blapto\|Work`	`Ships, subs and whirlybirds`
`13:37.02`	`Blapto\|Work`	`Anyway, I'm off to lunch, bye`
`13:37.14`	`mozrat`	`ta-ra`
`13:40.58`	`morsing`	`ping Cope`
`13:41.19`	`mozrat`	`pontifex: is Lisi Reisz male or female?`
`13:44.43`	`tonytiger`	`lol`
`13:44.44`	`tonytiger`	`Female.`
`13:44.53`	`pontifex`	`heh`
`13:44.56`	`pontifex`	`very female`
`13:45.07`	`tonytiger`	`Not in that way.`
`13:45.20`	`mozrat`	`Right - just wondering`
`13:46.09`	`tonytiger`	`http://www.hants.lug.org.uk/gallery/HantsLUG_04_2006/img_3537`
`13:46.13`	`tonytiger`	`That's her behind the front dest`
`13:47.09`	`tonytiger`	`*desk`
`13:48.47`	`mozrat`	`wow - she looks just like my mother-in-law`
`13:49.17`	`tonytiger`	`heh`
`13:54.47`	`mozrat`	`bbiab`
`14:19.03`	`morsing`	`Mmm... Female`
`14:21.52`	`wethrin`	`:)`
`14:22.04`	`cbz`	`wut?`
`14:22.13`	`cbz`	`i'd google, but currently have no web bowser`
`14:22.58`	`SlammerXP`	`i bet sabine is hot`
`14:24.57`	`cbz`	`Smooth, slammer. Very smooth.`
`14:26.48`	`merlinn`	`anyone want a job in presales?`
`14:27.11`	`merlinn`	`vaguely competent ip routing/firewalling knowledge required`
`14:27.23`	`merlinn`	`and good at standing up in front of customers`
`14:27.27`	`merlinn`	`~50k-ish`
`14:27.36`	`merlinn`	`quick someone apply`
`14:27.45`	`merlinn`	`I need to stop interviewing clowns`
`14:29.36`	`cpufreak`	`actually wait no`
`14:29.43`	`cpufreak`	`I just left that company`
`14:29.44`	`cpufreak`	`:)`
`14:30.05`	`merlinn`	`come back`
`14:30.15`	`merlinn`	`if you come back as a more junior engineer you'll get a pay rise`
`14:30.23`	`cbz`	`urm`
`14:30.25`	`merlinn`	`we've got an inversely proportional sliding scale of competence to salary`
`14:30.37`	`cbz`	`You are selling the job hard, I see.`
`14:30.44`	`merlinn`	`dude`
`14:30.47`	`merlinn`	`any fuck chop can do it`
`14:31.01`	`cbz`	`I'll come over there and sit on my arse for 70K`
`14:31.01`	`cpufreak`	`to be fair its a good company to learn stuff at.`
`14:31.05`	`merlinn`	`best I can do is 55 for someone that does fuck all`
`14:31.49`	`Jasperw`	`merlinn - where is it based?`
`14:31.52`	`merlinn`	`holborn`
`14:32.05`	`Jasperw`	`and what are the boxes? linux based?`
`14:32.32`	`cpufreak`	`Jasperw: its presales, no boxes`
`14:32.35`	`merlinn`	`it's presales`
`14:32.43`	`merlinn`	`you design solutions`
`14:32.44`	`merlinn`	`can't touch them`
`14:32.45`	`Jasperw`	`yeah, but what would i be preselling.`
`14:32.54`	`merlinn`	`networks + hosted platforms`
`14:32.57`	`Jasperw`	`oh, so i get to inflict pain on others?`
`14:33.00`	`merlinn`	`yup`
`14:33.04`	`Jasperw`	`hmmm`
`14:33.14`	`merlinn`	`mpls based networks and hosted solutions involving windows + unix`
`14:33.25`	`Jasperw`	`so just a fairly decent sounding spew of buzzwords required?`
`14:33.29`	`merlinn`	`well`
`14:33.38`	`cbz`	`and a suit, and good hair.`
`14:33.43`	`merlinn`	`you can't be a complete moron`
`14:33.54`	`merlinn`	`you need to know how HA firewalls work`
`14:33.55`	`Jasperw`	`not so sure about the hair tho.`
`14:33.56`	`merlinn`	`how devices maintain state`
`14:34.04`	`merlinn`	`blah blah`
`14:34.08`	`Jasperw`	`dual redundant hot failover with state syncing?`
`14:34.16`	`merlinn`	`yup`
`14:34.25`	`Jasperw`	`master/slave configs?`
`14:34.31`	`Jasperw`	`VRRP/HSRP?`
`14:34.32`	`merlinn`	`yup`
`14:34.39`	`merlinn`	`ideally a grasp of bgp/ospf`
`14:34.46`	`merlinn`	`but not essential`
`14:34.52`	`merlinn`	`and I'll teach you all about MPLS`
`14:34.54`	`Jasperw`	`whatever that quick failover OSPF thing is called...`
`14:35.04`	`merlinn`	`all you need to know is how it works`
`14:35.15`	`merlinn`	`and ideally a bit of clue on SLB`
`14:35.19`	`merlinn`	`but totally non essential`
`14:35.23`	`merlinn`	`apply you fuckchop`
`14:35.30`	`merlinn`	`PLEASe`
`14:35.33`	`merlinn`	`PLEASE`
`14:35.39`	`merlinn`	`send cv to merlin@uk.clara.net`
`14:36.11`	`Jasperw`	`will have to wait till next week, i'm off tyo switzerland tommorow.`
`14:37.13`	`Jasperw`	`i can send it now if you want, but it's a bit crap tbh :P`
`14:39.58`	`merlinn`	`send it`
`14:40.45`	`merlinn`	`I'll take what I can get at this point`
`14:42.28`	`Cope`	`heh`
`14:42.49`	`merlinn`	`Cope: want a job?`
`14:45.05`	`Cope`	`although it is fun;`
`14:45.07`	`merlinn`	`got some in sysadmin and networks`
`14:45.14`	`merlinn`	`noc too`
`14:45.16`	`merlinn`	`urm...`
`14:45.20`	`merlinn`	`what do you fancy?`
`14:45.22`	`Cope`	`why are people leaving your company?`
`14:45.31`	`merlinn`	`market is good`
`14:45.31`	`SlammerXP`	`merlinn: I'd apply but there's too much risk of ending up working with you :)`
`14:45.48`	`merlinn`	`I just offered >120k twice in 2 weeks`
`14:45.57`	`Cope`	`market is good - I've had 2 people head-hunting me today`
`14:46.06`	`merlinn`	`just got offered rather`
`14:46.17`	`merlinn`	`contract work is available paying >900 pounds a day`
`14:46.30`	`merlinn`	`people can't keep full time staff`
`14:46.41`	`merlinn`	`and engineers aren't keeping up with technology`
`14:46.56`	`cbz`	`Heh`
`14:47.03`	`merlinn`	`SlammerXP: you're just scared I'd beat you to death`
`14:47.12`	`merlinn`	`apply`
`14:47.14`	`merlinn`	`take a kicking`
`14:47.16`	`merlinn`	`then carry on`
`14:47.23`	`SlammerXP`	`i'm either bigger or faster than you :)`
`14:47.38`	`Cope`	`nah, you've been living on beer and lard`
`14:48.03`	`SlammerXP`	`someone explain to me why a VOIP handset needs 48 volts DC to run.`
`14:48.23`	`pontifex`	`that's what POTS lines are aren't they?`
`14:48.25`	`Cope`	`merlin: actually, I do know someone very good who has just left digex`
`14:48.45`	`pontifex`	`does the voip handset also have a standard BT plug?`
`14:48.46`	`SlammerXP`	`i would have thought 12v would be a little voer the top`
`14:48.47`	`SlammerXP`	`over`
`14:48.48`	`Cope`	`merlinn: a few actually; but one pre-sales guy in particular.`
`14:48.56`	`SlammerXP`	`pontifex: nope, just cat5`
`14:49.01`	`pontifex`	`odd`
`14:49.07`	`SlammerXP`	`well, rj45 anyway`
`14:49.09`	`pontifex`	`does it have a pair of massive bells inside?`
`14:49.15`	`pontifex`	`or maybe a clanger`
`14:49.19`	`SlammerXP`	`not that I'm aware of`
`14:52.16`	`Cope`	`merlinn: digex friend may be interested - do you have some genuine details? This is for presales.`
`14:53.02`	`cpufreak`	`http://www.uk.clara.net/recruit/pst2.php`
`14:53.03`	`cpufreak`	`^^`
`14:53.39`	`cpufreak`	`or maybe`
`14:53.41`	`cpufreak`	`http://www.uk.clara.net/recruit/sae2.php`
`14:56.19`	`mozrat`	`hello Jasperw merlinn`
`14:56.42`	`mozrat`	`welcome etc etc`
`14:58.28`	`Cope`	`anyone had the misfortune to have to manage streamserve here?`
`15:00.50`	`Blapto\|Work`	`POTS voltage is AC`
`15:02.24`	`morsing`	`Beer`
`15:02.35`	`cpufreak`	`its only 4pm`
`15:02.37`	`cpufreak`	`slacker`
`15:02.47`	`Blapto\|Work`	`ibot morsing has a stuck needle`
`15:14.13`	`Cope`	`opinions on this, please? http://www.cube247.co.uk/acatalog/DeltaST5.html`
`15:14.16`	`Cope`	`as workstation`
`15:14.24`	`*** join/#gllug startxwhite (n=startxwh@host86-136-243-196.range86-136.btcentralplus.com)`
`15:14.31`	`Cope`	`too expensive? decent spec? I have no idea - very out of date on such things.`
`15:15.02`	`phearless`	`this is an harcore gamer PC :p`
`15:15.02`	`startxwhite`	`i am running debian gnu/linux sarge on a P266 laptop and want to transfer files from a 40 gig desktop hard disk using a usb to ide cable that supports 3.5 inch hard disks. however, i can not mount the thing. can anyone help?`
`15:15.17`	`phearless`	`hardcore*`
`15:16.47`	`Cope`	`phearless: really? well it will be used just for home; dvds, music, general pootering; no games or serious stuff.`
`15:17.46`	`phearless`	`if you need just to read DVDs and play music, a 2 years old PC is very good`
`15:18.01`	`phearless`	`if you use openoffice you need a brand new one ;)`
`15:18.14`	`Cope`	`sure... but friend wants guarentee / service contract etc`
`15:18.21`	`Cope`	`yes, he does indeed use openoffice :)`
`15:18.38`	`Blapto\|Work`	`startxwhite, do you have a windows machine to test it on?`
`15:19.20`	`phearless`	`Cope: a cheap PC in a supermarket would probably be a good deal`
`15:20.05`	`phearless`	`if he use linux he just need to be careful with weird exotic hardware`
`15:20.19`	`phearless`	`like hewlett packard desktops pc :p`
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`22:33.58`	`*** topic/#gllug is Greater London LUG - Next Event is Sat 16th September - Software Freedom Day. http://gllug.org.uk http://planet.gllug.org.uk`
`23:33.43`	`*** join/#gllug boudiccas (n=boudicca@88-108-121-109.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com)`
`23:43.49`	`z00dax`	`<peep>`
`23:55.02`	`wethrin`	`poop`

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