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`01:23.15`	`Leeds`	`wow, it's freezing - 25C and rain`
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`03:19.51`	`boudiccas`	`Leeds; morning :)`
`03:21.39`	`Leeds`	`morning boudiccas :-)`
`03:25.52`	`Leeds`	`why are you awake?`
`03:59.03`	`boudiccas`	`i'm an insomniac`
`03:59.39`	`boudiccas`	`If I'm still awake when its starting to get light and the birds are coughing before they start their dawn chorus, I get up`
`04:02.00`	`Leeds`	`been there, done that`
`04:04.46`	`boudiccas`	`just means that I'll sleep well tonight I reckon`
`04:04.59`	`Leeds`	`heh`
`04:05.02`	`boudiccas`	`and for the rest of today i'll feel like tish`
`04:05.09`	`Leeds`	`unheh`
`05:27.56`	`morsing`	`'morning`
`05:28.42`	`Leeds`	`hi`
`05:28.48`	`morsing`	`Leeds!`
`05:30.05`	`boudiccas`	`morning`
`05:36.11`	`morsing`	`boudiccas!`
`05:36.20`	`boudiccas`	`:)`
`05:38.21`	`Leeds`	`lunchtime...`
`05:38.27`	`Leeds`	`in fact, well into lunchtime`
`05:38.52`	`Leeds`	`$BOSSWIFE has gone to get $BOSSFATHER from the airport...`
`05:48.34`	`morsing`	`Nice`
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`07:04.53`	`Leeds`	`heh... people just arrived in... Chinese colleague put down her bags and shouted across the office "Upgrade-ah, first class-oh"`
`07:18.53`	`morsing`	`Huh?`
`07:20.51`	`Leeds`	`she had been given an upgrade to first class`
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`07:25.01`	`Leeds`	`just deciding how blunt and rude to be`
`07:25.07`	`SlayerXP`	`to whom?`
`07:25.32`	`Leeds`	`just before you arrived :-)`
`07:26.07`	`Leeds`	`they have pointed me at the docs recently written for the AS/400 system in Sri Lanka and requested I use the same format to document what I've written here`
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`07:26.56`	`mozrat`	`Good Morning`
`07:27.26`	`Leeds`	`without even opening it - which I haven't done in many months - the fact that it's in excel files makes it sound like a joke`
`07:29.32`	`Leeds`	`I'm just downloading openoffice.org so I can open the bloody stuff`
`07:33.01`	`Blapto\|Work`	`morning all`
`07:35.45`	`Leeds`	`and now I'm downloading it again since the tarball just contains RPMs!`
`07:47.19`	`Leeds`	`"This is the layout we would like for the documentation. (i.e database layouts, links, libraries, programs etc.)"`
`07:47.36`	`Leeds`	`links, libraries and programs are of course AS/400 terms`
`07:50.15`	`phearless`	`good morning everybody`
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`07:56.43`	`Leeds`	`ha ha ha`
`07:57.40`	`Leeds`	`this is absolutely ridiculous`
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`07:59.50`	`rhowe`	`Bad Linux`
`07:59.52`	`rhowe`	`"Free swap = 0kB" "Total swap = 262136kB" "Out of Memory: Killed process 6700 (amavisd-new)."`
`08:00.14`	`Leeds`	`they've shown me a collection of xls files, which contain nothing but a tabular form of the database table definitions, but because it's a) quite a big database b) on a prehistoric system and c) not relational, they've added field descriptions, and there are, obviously, no keys`
`08:00.39`	`Leeds`	`once you hit oom, all bets are off - something is going to get killed, and it's going to be something big`
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`08:00.54`	`rhowe`	`Leeds: Indeedy`
`08:01.18`	`rhowe`	`although what on earth amavis is doing to eat 500M of RAM, I don't know`
`08:01.41`	`rhowe`	`Well, it could be amavis, clamav or SA (quite possibly the latter)`
`08:02.46`	`Leeds`	`quite possibly, yes`
`08:03.13`	`rhowe`	`I think the others tend to use disk space over RAM (amavis, certainly)`
`08:03.59`	`Leeds`	`never used it`
`08:04.38`	`rhowe`	`Swapping during normal operation is not good for performance :)`
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`08:19.08`	`Leeds`	`and the reply comes back (paraphrased): "Fine, use whatever format, but get on with it since you've done bugger all for a couple of months"`
`08:20.45`	`Leeds`	`this is where, if I was actually bitter and/or stupid, I'd make it perfectly clear that I consider myself to have no obligations to either the company or the management, only to my colleagues...`
`08:20.57`	`Leeds`	`which is approximately how I feel`
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`08:25.01`	`winjer`	`i hope your colleagues pay you sufficiently ;)`
`08:30.00`	`cpufreak`	`Leeds: aren't you working your notice out anyway?`
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`08:32.01`	`Leeds`	`cpufreak: yes... but I do not understand that to mean that I work as usual until my last day`
`08:32.58`	`phearless`	`Leeds: you are leaving your company ?`
`08:33.17`	`Leeds`	`phearless: not by choice, but yes`
`08:33.59`	`phearless`	`are you coming back to UK ?`
`08:34.16`	`Leeds`	`um...`
`08:34.43`	`Leeds`	`theoretical plan is to head back to the UK for a few weeks, then come back out here and start something new... but I haven't done anything about anything`
`08:35.04`	`Leeds`	`right now I'm exceptionally unmotivated`
`08:36.15`	`phearless`	`but you can talk chinese ?`
`08:37.37`	`Leeds`	`nope`
`08:37.52`	`rhowe`	`Leeds: http://www.despair.com/viewall.html`
`08:38.00`	`phearless`	`so what does make you go to HK ?`
`08:38.15`	`phearless`	`it is quite complicated without speaking the language`
`08:38.19`	`Leeds`	`this job...`
`08:38.44`	`phearless`	`yes but if you don't have the job, why do you come back after ?`
`08:39.13`	`Leeds`	`because I like it here`
`08:39.51`	`phearless`	`rhowe: this one is cool http://www.despair.com/mis24x30prin.html`
`08:39.57`	`phearless`	`Leeds: okay`
`08:40.23`	`Leeds`	`rhowe: I had their calendar a couple of years ago at Sun :-0`
`08:40.27`	`rhowe`	`phearless: Yeah, kind of appropriate for this place, considering what we do :)`
`08:40.34`	`phearless`	`:p`
`08:40.41`	`rhowe`	`phearless: (marine surveying)`
`08:40.43`	`Leeds`	`phearless: it's a fun, exciting, lively, busy, exotic, relatively cheap place...`
`08:40.46`	`rhowe`	`Leeds: Nice`
`08:41.08`	`Leeds`	`rhowe: you know what I'm talking about...`
`08:41.13`	`rhowe`	`Leeds: So, you have a tossup between "write loads of documentation" and "streaming internet radio"`
`08:41.32`	`Leeds`	`nope... no radio when bosses are around`
`08:41.53`	`phearless`	`Leeds: so do you have chinese friends ?`
`08:42.02`	`Leeds`	`and hey - the bosses just left!`
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`08:42.09`	`phearless`	`i wonder how it is, t olive in a country when you do not speak the language, in fact`
`08:42.32`	`mozrat`	`OK - lets play the first installment of "Guess who the postcard came from today"`
`08:42.47`	`mozrat`	`Postcard arrived today...`
`08:42.50`	`cpufreak`	`Leeds: I was meaning, that if you're working your notice out you shouldn't care (so much).`
`08:42.53`	`mozrat`	`from the Costa Brava`
`08:43.02`	`mozrat`	`Addressed to Mr Morris Simon`
`08:43.08`	`mozrat`	`(any guesses so far?)`
`08:43.12`	`cpufreak`	`wtf is morris simon`
`08:43.19`	`Leeds`	`rhowe: and it isn't either/or - I have been in the habit of working with music on... to be forbidden from listening to music makes it harder for me to work - the sort of thing I won't miss`
`08:43.49`	`Leeds`	`cpufreak: quite right... since they fired me, I've been responding to questions/bug-reports, etc. but not doing anything new, anything of my own initiative`
`08:44.13`	`cpufreak`	`fired? I thought you were leaving on your own choice`
`08:44.31`	`Leeds`	`no - not of my own choice`
`08:44.41`	`Leeds`	`if I'd quit, I would expect to work up to my last day`
`08:45.00`	`cpufreak`	`depends on the circumstances`
`08:45.11`	`cpufreak`	`I ended up working until 2 days after my last day at last job`
`08:45.17`	`Leeds`	`hmm... no sound`
`08:45.34`	`Leeds`	`if I choose to leave, my agreement is that I will keep working for 3 months after I quit`
`08:45.53`	`Leeds`	`if they tell me to leave, their agreement is that they will keep paying me for 3 months after I quit...`
`08:45.57`	`Leeds`	`that's pretty much how I see it`
`08:46.04`	`cpufreak`	`well, yes, but it dpeends on your reasons for choosing to leave in the former`
`08:46.17`	`phearless`	`why did they fire you ?`
`08:47.03`	`Leeds`	`it's a long story`
`08:47.24`	`Leeds`	`and yes, I have one or two Chines friends, but they speak fluent English`
`08:47.45`	`phearless`	`okay`
`08:47.54`	`phearless`	`but at work, they all speak english ?`
`08:48.38`	`Leeds`	`they all speak English - some better than others - but not amongst themselves`
`08:49.06`	`Leeds`	`so I can only understand if they're talking to me, $BOSSWIFE or $BOSSDAD`
`08:49.37`	`phearless`	`I would not like this kind of work situation`
`08:49.49`	`Leeds`	`it's not the most comfortable thing, no`
`08:50.26`	`phearless`	`when I arrived in UK, I was really annoyed when I did not understand what ppl say in a conversation`
`08:50.36`	`phearless`	`this is quite frustrating`
`08:51.15`	`Leeds`	`well, they were talking about you - it's only fair`
`08:52.13`	`phearless`	`no it was not because they were talkign about me, it was just the accent or the speed of the speech`
`08:52.30`	`Leeds`	`yeah, I know :-)`
`08:52.52`	`phearless`	`but if I move to another country with a weird language, it would be just for holidays...`
`08:53.08`	`phearless`	`I could not feel integrated in the community if I do not speak the local longuage`
`08:53.15`	`phearless`	`language*`
`08:53.56`	`Leeds`	`which is one of the reasons I don't intend to stay here for good`
`08:54.42`	`Leeds`	`it's worse here... it's an ethnic thing - you can spend 50 years, learn the language perfectly (and then you'd know it far better than most locals) and you'd still almost always look like a foreigner`
`08:55.13`	`Leeds`	`people aren't particularly racist, openly, but there is a wall between foreigners and Chinese, in general`
`08:58.39`	`phearless`	`it is the same in all Asia`
`08:59.03`	`Leeds`	`sure`
`09:00.31`	`Leeds`	`"I don't want to die a virgin"`
`09:00.49`	`phearless`	`what is this quote?`
`09:01.02`	`Leeds`	`title of a new song by The Divine Comedy`
`09:02.10`	`mozrat`	`My postcard came from sabinef72 by the way`
`09:03.02`	`Leeds`	`oh, good... she's having fun?`
`09:03.59`	`mozrat`	`I think so!`
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`09:04.19`	`mozrat`	`Do you want to know what she said? It's fairly standard postcard stuff`
`09:05.04`	`Leeds`	`sure`
`09:07.04`	`mozrat`	`"July 15th 2006. A nice postcard from Spain to show you how much the "costa brava" is beautiful. There are a lot of bays all around Roses. We have a wonderful point of view from our house.. well.. the weather is so hot it would be better now to jump into the swimming pool.... SPLASHHH.. Oh! be careful of the water. Take care. Sabinette (Better than the English beer.... VIVA LA SANGRIA)`
`09:07.10`	`mozrat`	`"`
`09:07.39`	`phearless`	`sangria++`
`09:07.41`	`Leeds`	`heh`
`09:07.49`	`Leeds`	`yeah, I like a nice cool sangria on a hot day`
`09:09.23`	`mozrat`	`I sent her 4 London Postcards in an envelope before she left`
`09:09.39`	`mozrat`	`I might buy 4 mucky ones with boobs and send them next`
`09:09.50`	`Leeds`	`http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/technology/5219554.stm`
`09:10.13`	`Leeds`	`heh... I did buy one in Singapore, because someone - vaguely think it could have been JAV - asked for postcards from foreign places`
`09:10.40`	`mozrat`	`I think it would have been sabinette`
`09:11.18`	`Leeds`	`could have been... in which case I need her address`
`09:17.00`	`Leeds`	`I remembered that I had to buy one for someone, so grabbed one at the 7-11 at the airport, but I can't remember who it was for :-)`
`09:19.15`	`Leeds`	`I do wish the BBC had mobile-friendly ogg or mp3 streams... or that I had the facilities to create one`
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`09:20.34`	`cpufreak`	`whats the best way to uncorrupt a RedHat rpm package database`
`09:20.39`	`cpufreak`	`currently any rpm command freezes`
`09:20.58`	`cpufreak`	`(eg rpm -qa, or rpm -e <pkgname>)`
`09:21.02`	`Leeds`	`don't use redhat - or any rpm-based (or deb-based) distro`
`09:21.05`	`cpufreak`	`strace shows it doing precicesly fuk off`
`09:21.06`	`phearless`	`cpufreak: have you been to the british motor show ?`
`09:21.08`	`cpufreak`	`Leeds: not my choice.`
`09:21.11`	`Leeds`	`this may not be the most useful advice`
`09:21.14`	`cpufreak`	`phearless: nope`
`09:21.26`	`phearless`	`cpufreak: I will go there on saturday I think`
`09:21.29`	`cpufreak`	`Leeds: I'm in the solaris team here, have nothing to do normally with the linux boxes`
`09:21.42`	`Leeds`	`solaris packaging doesn't entirely suck`
`09:22.09`	`cpufreak`	`its far more robust at least.`
`09:22.15`	`cpufreak`	`this is an ancient RedHat 9 box`
`09:22.19`	`cpufreak`	`# /home/andym/strace -p 12994`
`09:22.19`	`cpufreak`	`futex(0x40580dfc, FUTEX_WAIT, 0, NULL`
`09:22.37`	`cpufreak`	`sigh`
`09:22.52`	`phearless`	`futex is a washing powder i think`
`09:24.27`	`Erwin`	`and a 'fast mutex'`
`09:25.22`	`Leeds`	`isn't it a fast userspace mutex?`
`09:25.31`	`phearless`	`yes`
`09:29.28`	`cpufreak`	`n/m fixed it.`
`09:31.29`	`mozrat`	`http://digg.com/tech_news/Microsoft_security_group_employee_IIS_isn_t_even_relatively_secure`
`09:31.42`	`rhowe`	`heh, the future is bleak for the fight against software patents`
`09:31.43`	`rhowe`	`http://www.delphion.com/details?pn=US05443036__`
`09:32.56`	`mozrat`	`There must be some prior art there somewhere :-)`
`09:33.01`	`Leeds`	`woohoo, made US$0.75 this month from the goodle ads on my blog...`
`09:33.06`	`winjer`	`lmao`
`09:33.38`	`phearless`	`where is your blog ?`
`09:33.48`	`Leeds`	`wanderingjew.co.uk`
`09:35.10`	`Leeds`	`heh... funny to hear yesterday's 'funny news stories' from the web on today's BBC radio news`
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`09:39.13`	`phearless`	`your posts are quite huge`
`09:39.16`	`Leeds`	`yes`
`09:39.27`	`phearless`	`compared to the average blog posts on the web`
`09:39.56`	`Leeds`	`when I get round to saying anything, I tend to have a lot to say :-)`
`09:40.03`	`stephanb2`	`yo`
`09:57.01`	`morsing`	`ping SlayerXP`
`09:57.10`	`SlayerXP`	`pong`
`09:57.30`	`morsing`	`My Debain floppies won't boot, stops at USB mass storage ... something`
`09:57.43`	`morsing`	`What do I need to do_`
`09:57.43`	`morsing`	`?`
`09:57.53`	`SlayerXP`	`do you need usb ?`
`09:58.06`	`morsing`	`No`
`09:58.19`	`morsing`	`noapic?`
`09:58.23`	`SlayerXP`	`first check you're using current boot images, if you are, try disabling usb in the bios`
`09:58.31`	`morsing`	`Done - done`
`09:58.46`	`morsing`	`Not working. They do this on two completely different machines`
`09:58.59`	`SlayerXP`	`which boot floppies are you using, exactly?`
`09:59.07`	`morsing`	`The latest`
`10:01.06`	`morsing`	`SlayerXP?`
`10:01.16`	`SlayerXP`	`sorry, working`
`10:01.24`	`morsing`	`Haha :)`
`10:01.34`	`SlayerXP`	`which kernel?`
`10:02.49`	`morsing`	`awk and d`
`10:03.29`	`morsing`	`Don�t know. The standard one`
`10:04.08`	`mozrat`	`morsing!`
`10:04.29`	`wethrin`	`morning`
`10:04.54`	`SlayerXP`	`morsing: the default one is 2.4 based, you should probably be using the 2.6 one`
`10:06.36`	`morsing`	`SlayerXP: Only one set appears to be available`
`10:06.57`	`SlayerXP`	`morsing: url?`
`10:07.07`	`morsing`	`SlayerXP: Can't give it`
`10:07.30`	`morsing`	`Can't cut and paste between my terminal and X and firewall logging destroys everything I type`
`10:07.38`	`morsing`	`I�m not at my own computer!`
`10:08.33`	`morsing`	`http://http.us.debian.org/debian/dists/sarge/main/installer-i386/current//images/floppy/`
`10:08.36`	`morsing`	`That one`
`10:11.44`	`SlayerXP`	`do you have to use a floppy?`
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`10:11.56`	`morsing`	`Yes, serial console`
`10:12.16`	`morsing`	`What's wrong with floppies?`
`10:13.01`	`Leeds`	`then bend`
`10:13.07`	`Leeds`	`s/then/they/`
`10:13.08`	`morsing`	`Bend what?`
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`10:13.23`	`morsing`	`Yes, but cdroms don't work`
`10:13.27`	`morsing`	`Cope!`
`10:13.31`	`Cope`	`hello morsing`
`10:13.39`	`morsing`	`Cope: Floppies rules!`
`10:14.13`	`morsing`	`SlayerXP: So you don't think noapic would help?`
`10:14.43`	`SlayerXP`	`morsing: it depends on the hardware. suck it and see.`
`10:15.43`	`morsing`	`No it didn't :(`
`10:15.53`	`morsing`	`I thought you were an expert?`
`10:15.54`	`Blapto\|Work`	`Does anyone know where I might be able to get a SCSI hard drive in London?`
`10:16.01`	`Leeds`	`TCR?`
`10:16.10`	`morsing`	`Martin, stop switching between nicks`
`10:16.34`	`Blapto\|Work`	`I've phoned every IT store on TVR`
`10:16.36`	`Blapto\|Work`	`TCR`
`10:16.38`	`Blapto\|Work`	`none of them stock them`
`10:16.48`	`cpufreak`	`even CEX?`
`10:16.56`	`Blapto\|Work`	`Even CEX`
`10:17.02`	`cpufreak`	`they normally have some second hand dodgy scsi disks`
`10:17.07`	`cpufreak`	`do you need SCA, or 68pin?`
`10:17.17`	`cpufreak`	`or SAS?`
`10:17.34`	`morsing`	`Blapto\|Work: What exactly do you need?`
`10:17.39`	`morsing`	`I've got some stuff`
`10:17.54`	`cpufreak`	`there's a few places I can try for you, if you tell me what you need`
`10:17.59`	`cpufreak`	`ex work places and the like`
`10:18.14`	`cpufreak`	`(who are hardware distributors/manufacturers)`
`10:18.26`	`Blapto\|Work`	`ST373207LW`
`10:18.40`	`Blapto\|Work`	`Which is a 73GB Cheetah 10k7`
`10:19.01`	`morsing`	`Blapto\|Work: So you want a disk that breaks quickly?`
`10:19.11`	`Blapto\|Work`	`Well, it's going in a RAID array ;)`
`10:19.13`	`cpufreak`	`wis that SCA, or normal SCSI?`
`10:19.18`	`cpufreak`	`s/wis/is/`
`10:19.26`	`Blapto\|Work`	`And it's not my decisions to buy it, I have to get one`
`10:19.50`	`Blapto\|Work`	`SCSI I think`
`10:19.57`	`Blapto\|Work`	`Yeah, LW`
`10:20.09`	`cpufreak`	`SCA is scsi,`
`10:20.16`	`cpufreak`	`is it 80pin (ie intergrated power)`
`10:20.20`	`cpufreak`	`or 68pin + 4 pin molex`
`10:21.11`	`Blapto\|Work`	`I'm fairly sure it's 68pin`
`10:21.31`	`wethrin`	`If it's 68 pin, it'll have a power connector too`
`10:21.54`	`Blapto\|Work`	`I know`
`10:22.46`	`Blapto\|Work`	`having wrestled with the case, it's 68 pin`
`10:22.51`	`cpufreak`	`ok`
`10:23.18`	`cpufreak`	`do you mind if its 15k rpm?`
`10:23.59`	`Blapto\|Work`	`I'd prefer it to be 10k.7`
`10:24.10`	`Blapto\|Work`	`seeing as it's going in a RAID array`
`10:24.36`	`cpufreak`	`it shouldn't make a difference, asides from running slightly warmer`
`10:24.39`	`cpufreak`	`and being slightly faster`
`10:24.57`	`wethrin`	`Faster if it's in a RAID array isn't going to make much difference, though, is it?`
`10:25.02`	`wethrin`	`Unless all the disks are faster`
`10:25.21`	`Leeds`	`hometime!`
`10:25.26`	`cpufreak`	`well no, it'll make no difference really`
`10:25.29`	`cpufreak`	`until the other disks fail too`
`10:25.52`	`cpufreak`	`will let yo uknow when my mate replies`
`10:26.34`	`cpufreak`	`they're based on docklands (e14) right beside Harbour exchange square.`
`10:26.40`	`Blapto\|Work`	`cheers`
`10:26.56`	`cpufreak`	`why the big rush though`
`10:27.06`	`cpufreak`	`surely you have spares in stock`
`10:27.07`	`cpufreak`	`:)`
`10:27.16`	`Blapto\|Work`	`It's not a failure, it's a server build`
`10:27.21`	`Blapto\|Work`	`Out of spares.`
`10:28.04`	`Blapto\|Work`	`The main thing is, the company is fucked for some reason, so it's actually easier for me to go out and buy something with cash than to order it over the phone`
`10:28.14`	`cpufreak`	`I've put it down as being a failure, to try and expediate a reply`
`10:28.50`	`Blapto\|Work`	`I've always wondered why there isn't a company that stocks most of the stuff that lives in datahouses that can deliver same day to the docklands.`
`10:29.11`	`Blapto\|Work`	`To stock stuff like hard drives and generic supermicro systems, etc.`
`10:30.06`	`cpufreak`	`mostly because most people have support contracts covering their kit`
`10:30.12`	`cpufreak`	`and stock sufficient spare parts`
`10:30.25`	`cpufreak`	`so paying premium prices for someone local isn't necessary`
`10:30.33`	`rhowe`	`Blapto\|Work: Maplin might have some at extortionate rates`
`10:30.34`	`cpufreak`	`there used to be one, but they went titsup`
`10:30.54`	`Blapto\|Work`	`eek maplin`
`10:31.44`	`Blapto\|Work`	`Absolutely fantastic for the odd resistor, but really bad for anything bigger than that`
`10:31.50`	`stephanb2`	`maplin = blatant ripoff \|\| cheap crap`
`10:32.05`	`Blapto\|Work`	`Went in yesterday to buy a DPDT foot switch "we don't have any"`
`10:32.13`	`Blapto\|Work`	`"What's that?"`
`10:32.17`	`rhowe`	`heh`
`10:32.19`	`Blapto\|Work`	`"It's SPST"`
`10:32.22`	`Blapto\|Work`	`"It's bloody not"`
`10:33.08`	`stephanb2`	`i can't think of any product i bought at maplin i can say i am pleased with`
`10:33.29`	`Blapto\|Work`	`resistors`
`10:33.36`	`rhowe`	`stephanb2: I'm struggling`
`10:33.46`	`Blapto\|Work`	`And ICs`
`10:33.48`	`rhowe`	`stephanb2: cable ties!`
`10:33.59`	`stephanb2`	`yeah. quick fix spare parts for experiments that you toss in the bin afterwards`
`10:34.06`	`Blapto\|Work`	`Yup.`
`10:34.12`	`Blapto\|Work`	`Or in my case, amplifiers and synths`
`10:34.39`	`stephanb2`	`you would buy an amp from maplin :-o !!!`
`10:34.43`	`morsing`	`Check it!`
`10:34.45`	`Blapto\|Work`	`If they stocked a wider range of diodes they'd have basically everything I needed to build a whole array of guitar effects pedals.`
`10:34.56`	`Blapto\|Work`	`No, I'd build an amp out of bits I bought at maplin`
`10:35.08`	`stephanb2`	`ooh right fair enough`
`10:35.15`	`morsing`	`Wider range? You mean a left and a right diode?`
`10:35.25`	`Blapto\|Work`	`and up down`
`10:35.27`	`stephanb2`	`but why not buy the parts from rs ?`
`10:35.28`	`Blapto\|Work`	`And strange and charm.`
`10:35.34`	`morsing`	`:)`
`10:36.01`	`Blapto\|Work`	`Because when I realise I'm missing a bit I can just pop in to one of three maplins on my way home.`
`10:36.16`	`Blapto\|Work`	`Or on the way to my friend's house`
`10:36.32`	`stephanb2`	`sure, but i would still buy 95% of the kit from rs`
`10:36.44`	`Blapto\|Work`	`rs don't have the right diodes either.`
`10:37.03`	`stephanb2`	`anyway, what is good fun at maplin is the staff!`
`10:37.12`	`Blapto\|Work`	`Conrad do on occasion`
`10:38.06`	`stephanb2`	`underpaid, fairly ignorant and demotivated zombies`
`10:39.40`	`stephanb2`	`anyway. let's stop the maplin bashing`
`10:40.06`	`Blapto\|Work`	`maplin are excellent for emergencies though.`
`10:41.31`	`wethrin`	`And was the only place that stocked a particular processor fan I needed`
`10:41.41`	`wethrin`	`Out of all the electronics-related shops on TCR`
`10:42.01`	`wethrin`	`All the "computer" places had these giant coolers for OMGTEHGIGAHURTZ processors`
`10:42.11`	`cpufreak`	`Blapto\|Work: got a maybe...waiting to hear more`
`10:42.14`	`cpufreak`	`My colleague Kiran should be able to help. I'm guessing that we're most`
`10:42.14`	`cpufreak`	`likely only going to have 80-pin disks (but you never know - today might`
`10:42.14`	`cpufreak`	`be your lucky day ;).`
`10:42.14`	`cpufreak`	`Kiran, please see if we can help Andy out with this.`
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`10:42.23`	`cpufreak`	`will see what they say`
`10:42.26`	`wethrin`	`And nothing that would fit a 1U case`
`10:42.43`	`Blapto\|Work`	`CPU coolers that actively try to wrench your motherboard out of the case.`
`10:42.44`	`Blapto\|Work`	`Andy?`
`10:42.55`	`cpufreak`	`andy = me`
`10:43.00`	`Blapto\|Work`	`Ah, right`
`10:43.05`	`cpufreak`	`I was copy + pasting from an email`
`10:44.28`	`faxserver`	`Hi All, anyone got experience of geting a NetMos PCI serial card to work under Debian Sarge?`
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`11:04.56`	`rhowe`	`hmm`
`11:05.53`	`stephanb2`	`hi rhowe long time no see!`
`11:06.01`	`rhowe`	`hey stephanb2`
`11:06.24`	`rhowe`	`stephanb2: Well we shall have to fix that - I'm 24 tomorrow, busy all weekend, but definitely gonna be at the beerfest on Tuesday`
`11:06.29`	`rhowe`	`(and possibly Weds and Thurs...)`
`11:06.48`	`Cope`	`le sigh`
`11:06.54`	`stephanb2`	`rhowe: "the" beerfest ?`
`11:07.01`	`rhowe`	`GBBF`
`11:07.07`	`rhowe`	`Cope: heh`
`11:07.09`	`Cope`	`BBW?`
`11:07.20`	`rhowe`	`Cope: You're not that old`
`11:07.23`	`Cope`	`Gay and Bisexual Bugger Fest?`
`11:07.57`	`Cope`	`and Leeds!`
`11:07.58`	`rhowe`	`That was in Glasgow, no?`
`11:08.07`	`stephanb2`	`Gay and Bisexual Builders Fair`
`11:08.11`	`rhowe`	`Not forgetting the wankathon in London last weekend`
`11:08.42`	`Cope`	`shut`
`11:08.59`	`stephanb2`	`Cope: Stanley will always be remembered`
`11:09.57`	`rhowe`	`http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Anal-bleaching-whitening-cream-ideal-for-home-use_W0QQitemZ320008699754QQihZ011QQcategoryZ40088QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem`
`11:11.22`	`stephanb2`	`an interesting subject for a BSc thesis in biochemistry`
`11:11.43`	`stephanb2`	`and in pharmacology`
`11:13.24`	`stephanb2`	`rhowe: please enlighten me about last weekend's event that i am obviously ignorant of`
`11:14.49`	`rhowe`	`Oh, I stand corrected`
`11:14.56`	`rhowe`	`It's yet to happen, according to Media Guardian`
`11:15.01`	`rhowe`	`http://media.guardian.co.uk/site/story/0,,1823110,00.html`
`11:17.16`	`stephanb2`	`ah well, the Daily Mail and Channel 4 join forces to bring even more toxic entertainment to the masses`
`11:17.35`	`Blapto\|Work`	`hmm`
`11:17.40`	`Blapto\|Work`	`How would you sign up sponsors for that`
`11:17.58`	`Blapto\|Work`	`"Mum, remember how you used to sponsor me for school charity events?"`
`11:19.27`	`stephanb2`	`thank you lilo, say hello to stitch !`
`11:20.11`	`rhowe`	`hmm.. £220 ex VAT - http://www.netgear.co.uk/pdfs/gs724t.pdf`
`11:21.16`	`stephanb2`	`rhowe: this for home ?`
`11:21.19`	`rhowe`	`"System requirements: Network software (e.g. Windows)"`
`11:21.24`	`rhowe`	`stephanb2: Nah, the server segment at work`
`11:21.49`	`rhowe`	`stephanb2: We don't even need it to be managed, but try and find an unmanaged 24 port rackmount gigE switch for less than a managed one :)`
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`11:38.48`	`cpufreak`	`Blapto\|Work:`
`11:38.49`	`cpufreak`	`I am extremely sorry , we do not have the particular disks in stock we`
`11:38.49`	`cpufreak`	`only have 2 x 36 GB, 10000 RPM, 68 pin, seagate SCSI disks in stock.`
`11:38.49`	`cpufreak`	`But if you are willing to wait till monday we can procure them for`
`11:38.49`	`cpufreak`	`you.please let us know if monday is ok for you.`
`11:38.56`	`cpufreak`	`that is the response I got.`
`11:40.14`	`rhowe`	`Blapto\|Work: Oh, I know who might have them...`
`11:40.19`	`rhowe`	`Blapto\|Work: eurodatasystems.com`
`11:40.39`	`rhowe`	`Blapto\|Work: If you want a 2nd hand HP drive, we might be able to come to some agreement :)`
`11:40.44`	`rhowe`	`Blapto\|Work: But, after lunch`
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`12:35.43`	`Blapto\|Work`	`I've just come back from lunch, we've ordered one in so we'll have it tomorrow (hopefully)`
`12:35.45`	`Blapto\|Work`	`Thanks for trying though`
`12:42.57`	`rhowe`	`hmm.. SAS or U320?`
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`13:03.12`	`Blapto\|Work`	`320`
`13:03.22`	`rhowe`	`Yeah, I'm thinking 320`
`13:03.36`	`rhowe`	`We already have about 20-30 U320 drives, and no SAS ones`
`13:03.50`	`rhowe`	`plus there's a U320 RAID chassis sitting largely unused`
`13:04.04`	`rhowe`	`These are for new servers (3x HP DL385)`
`13:04.08`	`Blapto\|Work`	`I've just been told that apparently we haven't placed the order`
`13:04.29`	`rhowe`	`heh`
`13:04.37`	`Blapto\|Work`	`This is really shit`
`13:04.42`	`rhowe`	`Blapto\|Work: What do you need?`
`13:04.46`	`rhowe`	`Blapto\|Work: And where are you?`
`13:04.57`	`Blapto\|Work`	`73GB U320, Berkeley Square.`
`13:05.05`	`rhowe`	`10k RPM?`
`13:05.09`	`Blapto\|Work`	`Yeah.`
`13:05.18`	`rhowe`	`Hm, we have some, but they're kinda in use :)`
`13:05.23`	`rhowe`	`Got 4 18G's doing not much`
`13:05.28`	`rhowe`	`Might be U160`
`13:05.36`	`rhowe`	`Could be 15k`
`13:05.50`	`cpufreak`	`Blapto\|Work: you saw what I said?`
`13:05.56`	`Blapto\|Work`	`Yeah`
`13:06.03`	`cpufreak`	`no good I take it`
`13:06.08`	`Blapto\|Work`	`Thanks for trying`
`13:06.23`	`rhowe`	`Blapto\|Work: If you need it now, call Eurodata`
`13:06.31`	`rhowe`	`Blapto\|Work: They always pull through for us`
`13:06.36`	`rhowe`	`Blapto\|Work: Want a contact?`
`13:08.05`	`Blapto\|Work`	`I've just phoned Stuart`
`13:08.31`	`Blapto\|Work`	`Got a better name?`
`13:08.53`	`Blapto\|Work`	`He's now put me through to someone else...`
`13:09.18`	`rhowe`	`Mark Rosario`
`13:09.50`	`Blapto\|Work`	`Thanks`
`13:10.12`	`cpufreak`	`Blapto\|Work: out of interest, who is your work, and why are they fucked?`
`13:11.40`	`Blapto\|Work`	`They're not really fucked`
`13:11.51`	`Blapto\|Work`	`It's just that the person who can authorise credit card payments isn't here`
`13:11.59`	`Blapto\|Work`	`And keeps on "being in tomorrow"`
`13:12.08`	`iTron`	`Haha! rhowe know that one. :)`
`13:12.23`	`iTron`	`"fsck! No one with a credit card here today..."`
`13:12.32`	`Blapto\|Work`	`Exactly.`
`13:12.46`	`iTron`	`Er, rhowe and I know that one.`
`13:13.04`	`Blapto\|Work`	`I gathered.`
`13:13.20`	`iTron`	`Was momentarilly distracted there.`
`13:16.01`	`Blapto\|Work`	`Ooh a fly look`
`13:17.31`	`cpufreak`	`Blapto\|Work: I asked, only because the netblock you're connected from is registered to an 'EgoManiacs ltd', which is dissolved.`
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`13:19.26`	`phearless`	`horrible !`
`13:19.51`	`Blapto\|Work`	`It's assigned to us by Regus`
`13:19.56`	`Blapto\|Work`	`Managed offices.`
`13:19.59`	`phearless`	`http://www.undergroundcatering.com/ killed my sound system`
`13:20.20`	`Blapto\|Work`	`Underground Catering`
`13:20.24`	`phearless`	`this damn page opened mplayer, and now I can't have any sound, even after a reboot`
`13:20.38`	`Blapto\|Work`	`Pssst, mate, wanna buy a recipie for chili con carne?`
`13:21.18`	`phearless`	`i would prefer to use xmms`
`13:25.05`	`phearless`	`i am fighting with my sound since 1hour ;_;`
`13:25.59`	`mozrat`	`:(`
`13:26.51`	`phearless`	`the pc acts like if the web page destroyed the speakers`
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`13:27.11`	`antiphase`	`Fix mplayer.conf and your mixer settings probably`
`13:27.23`	`mozrat`	`wb Leeds`
`13:27.42`	`Leeds`	`hello!`
`13:28.05`	`phearless`	`i don't care about mplayer, I never use it`
`13:28.13`	`phearless`	`all apps on the computer can not use the sound now`
`13:28.28`	`phearless`	`including xmms`
`13:28.43`	`phearless`	`and alsamixer seems ok, the sound is not off`
`13:29.10`	`Leeds`	`mplayer rocketh!`
`13:29.36`	`phearless`	`i will remove mplayer to be sure that it would never re-happen`
`13:30.29`	`phearless`	`hop mplayer is gone`
`13:30.35`	`antiphase`	`mplayer is r33t`
`13:30.35`	`Leeds`	`nooooooooooooo!`
`13:30.45`	`phearless`	`still no sound`
`13:31.22`	`mozrat`	`Leeds: mplayer kicked phearless' small puppy dog`
`13:31.40`	`Leeds`	`the dog probably deserved it...`
`13:31.51`	`phearless`	`no it is worse, mplayer kicked my sound`
`13:32.16`	`phearless`	`i prefer a puppy dead than my sound dead !`
`13:32.19`	`Leeds`	`well your sound almost certainly deserved it`
`13:33.26`	`Leeds`	`although right now I have no sound eihter`
`13:33.38`	`phearless`	`i tried some super-31337 commands like fuser -mv /dev/dsp but it does not help`
`13:33.44`	`mozrat`	`gasp PHEARLESS!`
`13:34.28`	`Blapto\|Work`	`Check it!`
`13:34.30`	`Blapto\|Work`	`Means what?`
`13:34.36`	`Leeds`	`Cock it!`
`13:34.55`	`Blapto\|Work`	`morsing uses it a lot, and mozrat is here and mozrat = morsing`
`13:34.58`	`Blapto\|Work`	`So mozrat?`
`13:35.01`	`Blapto\|Work`	`ibot mozrat`
`13:35.03`	`ibot`	`mozrat is probably a geek, or pissed, or not morsing ALIVE!!!, or not a CNAME for morsing, or so pissed he can't update his factiod, or and we won!!!!!!, or not even Australian, or a piker`
`13:35.13`	`Blapto\|Work`	`Or apparently you're not the same.`
`13:35.20`	`Blapto\|Work`	`I don't care, ibot is often wrong`
`13:35.39`	`mozrat`	`I am the same`
`13:35.48`	`Blapto\|Work`	`as...`
`13:35.53`	`mozrat`	`mozrat`
`13:35.58`	`mozrat`	`Check it!`
`13:36.05`	`Blapto\|Work`	`Bastard`
`13:36.16`	`mozrat`	`what? I am!`
`13:36.31`	`Blapto\|Work`	`no, for saying "Check it!"`
`13:36.55`	`Leeds`	`hmm... back in a mo`
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`13:38.37`	`Leeds`	`hmm... something is wrong enough with my sound driver that unloading and reloading it doesn't fix it... not a good sign`
`13:41.24`	`Leeds`	`and, odder, my emulated middle button has vanished since I plugged in a real mouse with three buttons...`
`13:41.45`	`Leeds`	`nope, not odd... ISTR that x.org turns off emulate3buttons as soon as it sees a real one :-(`
`13:42.19`	`Leeds`	`hmm... might need a reboot :-(`
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`13:42.33`	`Leeds`	`I am, of course, talking to myself`
`13:42.51`	`mozrat`	`yep`
`13:43.30`	`phearless`	`i will remove all my ubuntu, kill a puppy, and install fedora`
`13:43.56`	`mozrat`	`goodness... why would you do that?`
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`13:44.39`	`phearless`	`a webpage killed my sound`
`13:44.40`	`mozrat`	`wooooooo`
`13:44.43`	`mozrat`	`sabinef72:!!!!`
`13:44.47`	`phearless`	`and without sound my life is crap`
`13:44.57`	`phearless`	`hello sabinef72`
`13:45.12`	`mozrat`	`phearless: who cares??? sabinef72 is back!`
`13:45.23`	`sabinef72`	`hellooooooooooooooooooooo`
`13:45.37`	`Leeds`	`ah, a French person`
`13:45.49`	`sabinef72`	`Leeds: yesssssss`
`13:45.57`	`Leeds`	`had a good holiday?`
`13:46.09`	`sabinef72`	`my god more than 2 weeks without computer was difficult`
`13:46.12`	`mozrat`	`http://spaceflight.nasa.gov/gallery/images/shuttle/sts-121/hires/iss013e48788.jpg`
`13:46.16`	`SlayerXP`	`bonny journey, madahmee, fancy a bit of fromage frais?`
`13:46.32`	`phearless`	`haha`
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`13:46.55`	`Leeds`	`sabinef72: have you, at some point, asked for postcards from strange places?`
`13:47.11`	`sabinef72`	`yes I love postcards`
`13:47.20`	`Leeds`	`mozrat: guess you were right...`
`13:47.30`	`Leeds`	`sabinef72: you'll have to give me your address then...`
`13:47.41`	`sabinef72`	`and I received some strange from England, with a woman very strange with special hairs`
`13:47.47`	`sabinef72`	`Leeds: where are you ?`
`13:47.49`	`Leeds`	`wow, that's a beautiful picture`
`13:47.58`	`Leeds`	`sabinef72: Hong Kong, as usual`
`13:48.12`	`mozrat`	`Leeds: isn't it.. you can see the pilots hand in the cockpit`
`13:48.17`	`sabinef72`	`ahhhhhhhh`
`13:48.24`	`Leeds`	`oh, so you can`
`13:50.42`	`Blapto\|Work`	`Doubt he's the pilot`
`13:50.46`	`mozrat`	`I wonder which part of the world we are looking at`
`13:50.47`	`Blapto\|Work`	`Pilots sit on the left hand side`
`13:50.51`	`Blapto\|Work`	`</geek>`
`13:51.10`	`mozrat`	`Blapto\|Work: you've been watching too much Star Trek`
`13:51.48`	`Blapto\|Work`	`I've been flying real aircraft`
`13:52.17`	`Blapto\|Work`	`pilots sit on the left, except in helicopters`
`13:56.15`	`phearless`	`i will fucking delete my ubuntu now`
`13:58.22`	`Leeds`	`hmm... lots of reports of this sound problem, no particular sign of fixes`
`13:58.37`	`mozrat`	`Don't really see the logic in binning a whole OS for the sake of not fixing a sound problem`
`13:58.56`	`stephanb2`	`expression of anger`
`13:59.56`	`mozrat`	`Mmm`
`14:00.47`	`Leeds`	`found one possible workaround...`
`14:03.51`	`Leeds`	`which appears to already have been applied to my current alsa...`
`14:07.58`	`Leeds`	`got to reboot, I think :-(`
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`14:10.30`	`Leeds`	`boots quite quickly, does this machine :-)`
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`14:18.20`	`stephanb2`	`hmm, gigabyte graphics card with passive cooling takes too much space :-(`
`14:18.38`	`Cope`	`Androgynous poly kinky vanilla queer het Pythonista`
`14:18.57`	`stephanb2`	`it blocks too many slots and doesn't fit in the case :-o`
`14:21.10`	`sabinef72`	`hi Cope`
`14:24.26`	`Leeds`	`okay, now my sound is working well... and I didn't even have to dump ubuntu or kill a puppy!`
`14:24.37`	`Leeds`	`but if it's unstable, I shall be unhappy`
`14:24.39`	`morsing`	`Woo`
`14:24.42`	`morsing`	`Boat!`
`14:24.47`	`mozrat`	`or install Fedora, more importanly`
`14:24.53`	`morsing`	`FreeBSD`
`14:25.02`	`Blapto\|Work`	`Check it!`
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`14:35.11`	`morsing`	`Cope1`
`14:35.56`	`Leeds`	`hmm... blackouts in London?`
`14:36.07`	`rhowe`	`Leeds: Yeah, EDF have had 3 failures`
`14:36.09`	`mozrat`	`Leeds: there was over the weekend I think`
`14:36.29`	`rhowe`	`Leeds: Imperial College got a warning from the MD of EDF saying "we don't think you're gonna go down, but be prepared"`
`14:37.12`	`rhowe`	`http://siksai.co.uk/~rhowe/ic-edf.txt`
`14:37.45`	`morsing`	`Can someone figure out please, how I can download the AVI movies from this page?`
`14:37.47`	`morsing`	`http://www.mkb.cc/gallery/displayimage.php?album=42&pos=29`
`14:38.45`	`morsing`	`rhowe?`
`14:38.47`	`rhowe`	`http://www.mkb.cc/gallery/albums/Graeme/Rolling%20road%20videos/Rolling_Road_%2835%29.avi`
`14:38.51`	`Leeds`	`videodownloader appears to work`
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`14:39.20`	`morsing`	`Cheers :)`
`14:39.29`	`sabinef72`	`morsing !`
`14:42.01`	`morsing`	`sabinef72!`
`14:42.23`	`morsing`	`How was your holiday?`
`14:42.48`	`sabinef72`	`very very nice`
`14:43.11`	`sabinef72`	`hot weather, nice lands, the sea.... and a swimming pool !`
`14:43.24`	`morsing`	`And beer?`
`14:45.29`	`sabinef72`	`hmmm san miguel beer but better.... sangria !`
`14:48.04`	`Blapto\|Work`	`Sangria is dangerous`
`14:48.10`	`Blapto\|Work`	`it doesn't taste as potent as it is`
`14:50.46`	`sabinef72`	`why sangria is dangerous ?`
`14:50.59`	`sabinef72`	`it's only red wine with fruits and icebergs`
`14:52.48`	`Blapto\|Work`	`yeah, but it doesn't taste too strong`
`14:52.57`	`Blapto\|Work`	`so you drink enough of it that you forget it has alcohol`
`14:53.02`	`Blapto\|Work`	`and it's very easy to drink`
`14:53.34`	`sabinef72`	`ah ah that's a risk`
`14:53.44`	`Leeds`	`actually, the last sangria I had was pretty strong`
`14:53.58`	`sabinef72`	`but I never drink a lot of alcohol`
`14:54.20`	`Leeds`	`but wine doesn't count in France, surely? :-)`
`14:55.59`	`sabinef72`	`lol`
`14:58.38`	`Leeds`	`we likes Dave Gorman, we does`
`14:59.31`	`sabinef72`	`who is him ?`
`14:59.52`	`Leeds`	`English comedian`
`15:00.18`	`Leeds`	`did a book and stage show (and TV show?) about googlewhacks`
`15:03.45`	`morsing`	`Dave Gorman is stupid`
`15:03.51`	`mozrat`	`He is ace`
`15:03.55`	`Leeds`	`morsing: how so?`
`15:04.09`	`morsing`	`James May is our hero!`
`15:04.24`	`Leeds`	`oh god, captain slow`
`15:07.24`	`cpufreak`	`(Top Gear)++`
`15:08.52`	`morsing`	`Top Gear sucks`
`15:09.14`	`Leeds`	`it's good`
`15:11.13`	`huw-l`	`I am Dave Gorman`
`15:12.11`	`Leeds`	`um, what?`
`15:14.50`	`morsing`	`I am Martin A. Brooks`
`15:16.59`	`Leeds`	`I am Spartacus`
`15:17.42`	`winjer`	`no i'm spartacus`
`15:17.42`	`Leeds`	`also, Brian`
`15:19.37`	`Leeds`	`hmm... this album has a track called "Arthur C Clarke's Mysterious World"`
`15:22.49`	`SlayerXP`	`wtg the linux kernel release team`
`15:22.52`	`SlayerXP`	`<PROTECTED>`
`15:22.52`	`SlayerXP`	`drivers/media/dvb/ttpci/budget-av.c: In function 'frontend_init':`
`15:22.52`	`SlayerXP`	`drivers/media/dvb/ttpci/budget-av.c:1063: error: 'struct budget_av' has no member named 'reinitialise_demod'`
`15:23.07`	`SlayerXP`	`The latest stable version of the Linux kernel is: 2.6.17.7`
`15:23.34`	`SlayerXP`	`why does the 7th revision of the 17th revision of a stable kernel series NOT FUCKING COMPILE`
`15:23.38`	`SlayerXP`	`ahem`
`15:25.10`	`JAV`	`Linux rasca 2.6.17.7 #1 PREEMPT Tue Jul 25 16:24:40 CEST 2006 i686 GNU/Linux`
`15:26.34`	`SlayerXP`	`you are, perhaps, not using the same drivers as I am`
`15:26.36`	`JAV`	`SlayerXP: no dvb for you!`
`15:26.48`	`JAV`	`of course that's the problem`
`15:27.20`	`JAV`	`did previous version work?`
`15:29.20`	`SlayerXP`	`the previous version is 2.6.8`
`15:30.27`	`Leeds`	`Linux eddie 2.6.17.7 #3 SMP Wed Jul 26 18:00:46 HKT 2006 i686 i686 i386 GNU/Linux`
`15:31.09`	`JAV`	`bad thing this happens with a "stable" kernel`
`15:31.17`	`Leeds`	`but no dvb either`
`15:39.03`	`SlayerXP`	`trying .6`
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`15:52.48`	`Leeds`	`what an odd album`
`15:55.59`	`Blapto\|Work`	`grr`
`15:56.24`	`Blapto\|Work`	`apparently, because it's a professional workstation fujitsu won't RMA/swap it, they will send an on site tech to replace the fault component.`
`15:56.42`	`Blapto\|Work`	`I don't want the same computer back... Just give me a new one and take this one away, diagnose it in your own time, not mine.`
`15:59.09`	`Leeds`	`"oh, unfathomable firmament"`
`16:07.58`	`hali`	`anyone know of any semi-senior linux/solaris techies with some cisco skills looking for work in soho?`
`16:08.50`	`morsing`	`I know one who's looking for work in Canada`
`16:09.00`	`morsing`	`Why would anyone work in Soho?`
`16:09.13`	`hali`	`hehe... it is the best place to work in london`
`16:09.33`	`hali`	`without a doubt the best area i have worked in`
`16:10.12`	`Blapto\|Work`	`it's also without electricity`
`16:10.24`	`Blapto\|Work`	`Brownouts around there today.`
`16:10.25`	`hali`	`oh yes, that was me plugging in a few blade enclosures :)`
`16:11.11`	`Blapto\|Work`	`Does anybody know how much it would cost to self study for CCNA and then find somewhere to take the exam?`
`16:12.19`	`cpufreak`	`I wouldn't bother`
`16:12.42`	`cpufreak`	`unless you're wanting to progress and do your CCNP/CCDP anyway`
`16:13.18`	`Blapto\|Work`	`I'd quite like to do CCNP at some point`
`16:13.21`	`Blapto\|Work`	`CCNA is a good start though`
`16:13.30`	`stephanb2`	`Blapto\|Work: correct, they closed Oxofrd Circus station`
`16:14.10`	`Blapto\|Work`	`I was having lunch just off Regent Street, just took my friends to Bond Street instead to send them home`
`16:14.10`	`stephanb2`	`ok cu guys l8r`
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`16:14.35`	`Blapto\|Work`	`Besides, I'd like to get some qualifications quickly`
`16:14.41`	`Blapto\|Work`	`I have some opportunities to show them off shortly`
`16:14.59`	`cpufreak`	`Blapto\|Work: Whether its a good start or not, depends on your aims, as to most employers, a CCNA is worth nothing on its own, especially without experience.`
`16:15.07`	`cpufreak`	`aas there's too many about.`
`16:15.19`	`Blapto\|Work`	`It's not an IT employer`
`16:15.22`	`Blapto\|Work`	`It's the RN`
`16:15.45`	`Blapto\|Work`	`I'd like to be able to say "look, I try and get stuff done, I've even got myself some qualifications and I'm working towards better ones"`
`16:15.50`	`Leeds`	`you're going to be a Registered Nurse?`
`16:15.59`	`Blapto\|Work`	`Royal Navy ;)`
`16:16.35`	`boudiccas`	`Leeds; and whats wrong with being a Registered Nurse?`
`16:16.50`	`Leeds`	`I know - I was trying to suggest that maybe you shouldn't assume people would read RN the same way you would`
`16:17.08`	`Leeds`	`boudiccas: nothing whatsoever - but I'm not quite sure where a Cisco qualification would fit`
`16:17.27`	`boudiccas`	`at the ned I reckon :)`
`16:17.29`	`Leeds`	`Registered Great Nurse, South Eastern Nurse?`
`16:17.40`	`boudiccas`	`State Enrolled Nurse`
`16:17.52`	`boudiccas`	`*end`
`16:18.15`	`boudiccas`	`G = General :)`
`16:18.32`	`Blapto\|Work`	`True, acronyms are bad when not explained.`
`16:18.47`	`Leeds`	`particularly when they're off-topic`
`16:18.59`	`boudiccas`	`every trade/skill-set has its own jargon :)`
`16:19.01`	`Blapto\|Work`	`I get the message.`
`16:19.04`	`Blapto\|Work`	`Yup`
`16:19.14`	`Blapto\|Work`	`You would not believe the amount of jargon in the military.`
`16:19.34`	`Leeds`	`sure - they pretty much invented the concept, unless you credit the masons`
`16:19.34`	`Blapto\|Work`	`You kind of get to know it, but there's stuff that's slipped into the realms of language and not terminology.`
`16:19.36`	`boudiccas`	`Oh yes I would :)`
`16:19.42`	`Blapto\|Work`	`Like EWS`
`16:19.45`	`Blapto\|Work`	`Everybody knows what it is`
`16:19.54`	`Blapto\|Work`	`It's the big tank with 40,000 litres of water in.`
`16:20.19`	`Blapto\|Work`	`But it's actually quite rare to come across someone who knows it stands for Emergency Water Supply.`
`16:20.27`	`Leeds`	`eh, there are even plenty of jargon terms in the intimate garment industry`
`16:20.29`	`boudiccas`	`thought that was Portsmouth`
`16:20.44`	`Blapto\|Work`	`Portsmouth is a big tank of water?`
`16:20.54`	`boudiccas`	`electronic weaponry system`
`16:21.00`	`Blapto\|Work`	`Warfare`
`16:21.02`	`Blapto\|Work`	`if anything`
`16:21.09`	`Leeds`	`extremely wet system?`
`16:21.12`	`boudiccas`	`jargon`
`16:21.13`	`cpufreak`	`Employee Written Software`
`16:21.36`	`boudiccas`	`easily wild system`
`16:23.48`	`Leeds`	`external wildebeest software (aka layered GNU)`
`16:23.59`	`boudiccas`	`lol`
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`16:30.42`	`Leeds`	`ibot bored`
`16:30.44`	`ibot`	`La ... lalalala ... beer!`
`16:31.53`	`JAV`	`heh`
`16:32.29`	`JAV`	`ibot: you have bad influences`
`16:32.50`	`Leeds`	`ibot beer`
`16:32.51`	`ibot`	`ACTION has disconnected (Read error: 99 (Connection reset by beer))`
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`16:34.59`	`Leeds`	`Cope!`
`16:35.08`	`Cope`	`hello there`
`16:36.34`	`JAV`	`daniz: here a couple hours ago --> http://publicacion.eldiariomontanes.es/interactivo/imagenes_galerias/tormenta_cantabria/imagenes/0018.jpg`
`16:37.37`	`JAV`	`(here is 40Kms from here)`
`16:37.50`	`daniz`	`wow.. didn't know you were having rain floods at spain, do you???`
`16:38.07`	`JAV`	`today is being a very bizarre day`
`16:38.15`	`Blapto\|Work`	`perhaps I'm a moron`
`16:38.24`	`Blapto\|Work`	`But the Croydon.pm e-mail doesn't say which day the meet is`
`16:38.28`	`Leeds`	`Blapto\|Work: it's very possible`
`16:38.30`	`Blapto\|Work`	`on the gllug social list`
`16:38.38`	`cpufreak`	`JAV: where in spain are you?`
`16:38.39`	`JAV`	`a gas explosion with 4 deaths, a little plane crashed..`
`16:38.48`	`Leeds`	`bad day`
`16:39.09`	`cpufreak`	`where was the gas explosion?`
`16:39.11`	`JAV`	`Cantabria, in the north`
`16:39.20`	`daniz`	`Is it also raining on the rest of spain?`
`16:39.30`	`JAV`	`the explosion was in Laredo, 5kms from here`
`16:39.32`	`cpufreak`	`it was raining in alicante the other day`
`16:39.53`	`JAV`	`it was a very uncommon thing`
`16:40.16`	`daniz`	`I think that's been a very hot July, but maybe August will be raining.. it�s not the first time that happens.`
`16:40.35`	`Leeds`	`Blapto\|Work: I suspect it's one of those things where if you don't already know, you're not meant to`
`16:40.50`	`JAV`	`after a lot of time without rain the sewers are obstructed i guess`
`16:41.20`	`cpufreak`	`JAV: thanks... have a very close friend in alicante, at the minute, wanted to make sure the explosions weren't near there`
`16:41.22`	`Blapto\|Work`	`googling has told me that it's tonight`
`16:41.33`	`JAV`	`and the gas explosion... they were changing the cooker`
`16:42.24`	`JAV`	`http://www.eldiariomontanes.es/20060727/cantabria/cinco-muertos-laredo-explosion_200607270751.html (spanish but with photo)`
`16:42.48`	`Blapto\|Work`	`5 deaths?`
`16:42.59`	`JAV`	`they died because of the smoke`
`16:43.09`	`JAV`	`yes :(`
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`16:46.23`	`Leeds`	`:-(`
`16:50.09`	`Leeds`	`get some strange search terms leading to my blog: is "richard cohen" a jew`
`16:50.52`	`Leeds`	`what idiot thinks that's a sane thing to put into google? it's not a natural language search engine - it'll just ignore the is and a`
`16:52.05`	`JAV`	`the name of your blog lets little space to doubt :)`
`16:52.27`	`Leeds`	`they weren't looking for me...`
`16:52.33`	`JAV`	`maybe he thinks you are lying :P`
`16:53.37`	`Leeds`	`Richard Cohen is a reasonably widely-read columnist in the US`
`16:55.06`	`Leeds`	`http://www.nicedoggie.net/2006/?p=1067`
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`16:57.16`	`Leeds`	`morning PussInBoots`
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`17:01.53`	`Blapto\|Work`	`bye all`
`17:02.04`	`Leeds`	`bye`
`17:02.28`	`Nylex`	`bb`
`17:07.23`	`JAV`	`http://www.inference.phy.cam.ac.uk/cjb/codepoints.html`
`17:09.36`	`daniz`	`wow.. there's an "snowman" char in unicode? How does it looks in a browser?`
`17:12.12`	`antiphase`	`Like a snowman probably`
`17:12.16`	`Leeds`	`uh... it'll look like a snowman? if it's in your font, of course`
`17:15.17`	`daniz`	`Mm.. is there any "unicode" font on firefox or something?`
`17:15.31`	`Leeds`	`there is no such thing as unicode`
`17:15.46`	`Leeds`	`no, that's not what I mean :-)`
`17:16.16`	`Leeds`	`there are no files in 'unicode' - unicode is an abstract standard... a file has to be in an encoding - utf-8 is the most common`
`17:17.03`	`daniz`	`yep, but the question is still there, If I generate an utf8 encoded html with that character on it, how can I display it on firefox? :)`
`17:17.16`	`Leeds`	`open it`
`17:17.33`	`Leeds`	`if you have a capable font installed, it should try to use it`
`17:17.58`	`daniz`	`Yep, of course, but wich is the font, if it even exists?`
`17:18.20`	`Leeds`	`there are no fonts - I think - which cover even a significant portion of the unicode space`
`17:18.41`	`daniz`	`Ah, so that snowman is a kind of utopia?? :))`
`17:19.02`	`Leeds`	`I installed a chinese font today - it was 23MB and doesn't contain much more than English and Chinese, AFAIK`
`17:19.05`	`morsing`	`daniz: Drink enough beer first and it'll look like a snowman`
`17:19.17`	`daniz`	`:)))`
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`17:19.31`	`Leeds`	`PussInBoots: hello`
`17:19.51`	`PussInBoots`	`lo`
`17:20.10`	`daniz`	`I mean, why assing a code to a symbol that cannot be represented in any font?`
`17:20.46`	`Leeds`	`daniz: unicode has spaced reserved for Klingon and various of Tolkien's Elvish scripts`
`17:21.10`	`Leeds`	`I suspect that someone somewhere thought it was a good idea to inclue *dings somewhere in the space`
`17:21.53`	`daniz`	`morsing: That explains who was drinking too many beers when released the utf8 draft! The unicode consistorium was full of fridges. What a party.`
`17:23.47`	`Leeds`	`to be slightly more serious, the whole point of the thing is to be able to define a space in which you can fit pretty much every character you'd want to use on a computer in pretty much any situation - that doesn't mean that any particular font has to include the space or the particular glyphs`
`17:26.17`	`Leeds`	`daniz: for your reference: http://www.unicode.org/cgi-bin/UnihanGrid.pl?codepoint=U+2603&useutf8=false`
`17:26.43`	`daniz`	`I was kidding a little. In fact I like all this stuff.`
`17:27.23`	`daniz`	`http://www.unicode.org/charts/`
`17:27.32`	`daniz`	`Is that the main index or something?`
`17:28.58`	`Leeds`	`amongst other characters in the area appears to be the i ching, a bunch of muslim symbols and crosses - but no star of david - the characters you need to represent a chess game, musical symbols, and the radiation warning symbol, the soviet union symbol, and the cnd symbol...`
`17:29.58`	`Leeds`	`daniz: I've got no idea - I was sent there by yubnub`
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`17:30.33`	`daniz`	`what is the i ching btw?`
`17:31.26`	`Leeds`	`http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/I_ching`
`17:32.21`	`Cope`	`daniz: chinese ancient text... influential on daoism and tai chi`
`17:32.47`	`daniz`	`Uff.. I'll really need a couple of beers for that :))`
`17:34.51`	`daniz`	`well, got to go.. see you next time :)`
`17:54.19`	`mozrat`	`Good evening`
`17:59.13`	`Cope`	`hello mozrat`
`18:00.09`	`mozrat`	`hi sanelson`
`18:00.18`	`mozrat`	`How is Wm?`
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`18:12.15`	`Cope`	`ace`
`18:12.16`	`Cope`	`;)`
`18:12.21`	`Cope`	`actually he is sick`
`18:12.26`	`Cope`	`threw up at nursery`
`18:12.31`	`Cope`	`i had to go and get him`
`18:12.41`	`Cope`	`he is now asleep in his bedroom, cuddling a large dinosaur`
`18:12.58`	`Cope`	`erm`
`18:13.33`	`Cope`	`could someone just check my sanity...`
`18:13.50`	`Cope`	`is it actually the case that adrian is talking complete and utter bollocks in response to martin?`
`18:14.27`	`Cope`	`and given the fact that martin slayed adrian for being clueless with respect to dns this is a (poor) cheap attempt to get even?`
`18:15.01`	`Cope`	`or is my loyalty to my friends polluting my judgement?`
`18:16.42`	`mozrat`	`heh`
`18:16.50`	`mozrat`	`Wm... poor little man`
`18:17.07`	`mozrat`	`Kernel thread.... utter bollocks`
`18:21.12`	`Cope`	`i am minded to say something, but it wouldn't be zen`
`18:21.31`	`Cope`	`Adrian,`
`18:21.39`	`mozrat`	`I wouldnt bother tbh`
`18:21.59`	`mozrat`	`there is no satisfactory end result from it.`
`18:22.24`	`mozrat`	`Mmmm, bus stop right above bakery`
`18:22.30`	`mozrat`	`fresh bread smell`
`18:22.33`	`mozrat`	`yum`
`18:22.36`	`Cope`	`Sorry, but I am failing to understand your point. Are you sure you're replying to the correct thread, because what you have written makes no sense, and is the finest example of a non-sequiter I've seen for some time.`
`18:22.40`	`Cope`	`S.`
`18:23.07`	`Cope`	`votes in please... yes... no...`
`18:23.08`	`Cope`	`:)`
`18:23.16`	`mozrat`	`no :-)`
`18:23.41`	`Cope`	`;)`
`18:23.47`	`mozrat`	`Your inner child will be happy you didnt send it`
`18:27.58`	`wethrin`	`Cope: Non-sequitur`
`18:27.59`	`wethrin`	`HTH`
`18:31.26`	`Cope`	`wethrin: and e isn't near u`
`18:31.43`	`Cope`	`so i can't blame it on bad typing or too much gin`
`18:31.44`	`wethrin`	`You may have been using a strange keyboard layout :)`
`18:31.50`	`wethrin`	`Sloe gin?`
`18:31.53`	`Cope`	`aww, you're much too kind`
`18:32.03`	`Cope`	`wethrin: no... super fragrant glorious scottish gin`
`18:32.18`	`cpufreak`	`abah`
`18:32.20`	`cpufreak`	`drink whiskey`
`18:32.25`	`cpufreak`	`with the e, so its irish.`
`18:33.00`	`wethrin`	`Only got 4 single cask Scottish, and one cask strength Scottish on my shelf`
`18:33.15`	`wethrin`	`I do have other whiskies in the house, but they're the University Whisky Society's, not mine`
`18:36.06`	`cpufreak`	`ah`
`18:36.31`	`Cope`	`erm lack of votes here`
`18:36.44`	`Cope`	`ibot karma flaming adrian`
`18:36.44`	`ibot`	`flaming adrian has neutral karma`
`18:36.55`	`Cope`	`flaming adrian--`
`18:36.57`	`Cope`	`ibot karma flaming adrian`
`18:36.57`	`ibot`	`flaming adrian has neutral karma`
`18:37.23`	`Cope`	`i found the "old hosting kit" today`
`18:37.36`	`Cope`	`a server room full of oldish sun and dell kit`
`18:37.51`	`Cope`	`a dozen e3ks`
`18:38.02`	`Cope`	`and a wadge of 2/3 u dell linux boxes`
`18:38.09`	`Cope`	`some ultras`
`18:38.11`	`Cope`	`fun`
`18:49.54`	`wethrin`	`ooh,�nice`
`18:50.05`	`wethrin`	`Please post to me :)`
`18:51.21`	`Cope`	`lol`
`18:51.23`	`Cope`	`dinner &`
`19:04.19`	`morsing`	`Beer`
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`19:04.25`	`morsing`	`Nylex!`
`19:04.36`	`Nylex`	`hi`
`19:07.41`	`wethrin`	`I have tasty beer!`
`19:08.02`	`goltor`	`vot is dis flaming karma?`
`19:08.08`	`wethrin`	`~karma`
`19:08.08`	`ibot`	`wethrin has karma of -1`
`19:08.21`	`wethrin`	`~explain karma wethrin`
`19:08.21`	`morsing`	`ibot wethrin`
`19:08.23`	`ibot`	`well, wethrin is bigger than a breadbox, unless said breadbox is > 5'11" long, or silly, or afraid that its time to correct how people use it's, or ha`
`19:08.24`	`cpufreak`	`wethrin++ # collector of old sun kit`
`19:08.29`	`wethrin`	`heh`
`19:08.43`	`wethrin`	`~karma`
`19:08.43`	`ibot`	`wethrin has karma of -1`
`19:08.47`	`goltor`	`ibot goltor`
`19:08.54`	`wethrin`	`oh well. Karma is broken`
`19:09.20`	`goltor`	`huh!`
`19:09.24`	`goltor`	`just the way i like it`
`19:09.58`	`wethrin`	`:)`
`19:11.33`	`morsing`	`Why does my xterm/ssh/irssi not break lines anymore?`
`19:13.30`	`wethrin`	`You're using screen?`
`19:13.40`	`wethrin`	`You probably turned linewrapping off accidentally`
`19:14.19`	`wethrin`	`^A, r, toggles wrapping`
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`21:01.39`	`AndrewBlack`	`anyone around?`
`21:04.11`	`wethrin`	`ain't nobody here but us chickens`
`21:04.31`	`AndrewDBlack`	`You're coming to the BF on tues?`
`21:10.12`	`wethrin`	`Yarr`
`21:29.04`	`sabinef72`	`night night all`
`23:21.45`	`wethrin`	`boo!`
`23:22.10`	`z00dax`	`aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa`
`23:24.56`	`Leeds`	`stop shouting - you woke me up`
`23:25.16`	`wethrin`	`Sorry`
`23:25.16`	`wethrin`	`You should`
`23:25.21`	`wethrin`	`<PROTECTED>`
`23:29.18`	`Leeds`	`at twenty-five past seven?`
`23:30.01`	`wethrin`	`Too early?`
`23:30.14`	`z00dax`	`its friday, start early, get off early.`
`23:30.47`	`wethrin`	`fnarr`
`23:31.04`	`Leeds`	`too early`
`23:31.32`	`Leeds`	`we leave early on Friday anyway - it's a Jewish company`
`23:32.40`	`wethrin`	`ahh`
`23:37.51`	`wethrin`	`nn all`
`23:39.57`	`Leeds`	`night`
`23:47.15`	`z00dax`	`nite`

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