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00:42.33z00daxErwin: when is / was it ?
02:56.32Leeds*gone hiking*
04:54.19morsing'morning
05:48.15*** join/#gllug mozrat_ (i=mozrat@silenceisdefeat.org)
08:16.21morsingmozrat_!
08:25.11Erwinz00dax: today/tomorrow is the public access.  http://www.farnborough.com/
10:17.27andrewHi there.  I am looking for documenation on grub and stumbling on loads of dead links.
10:17.30andrewSpec
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10:22.54andrew_Hi there
10:30.54Leedsafternoon all
10:34.03mozrathey Leeds
10:34.11mozrathi andrew
10:35.05andrew_I have decided that I hate computers.
10:35.18andrew_specifically computerst that decide not to boot.
10:36.17mozrator as I call them... paperweights
10:36.45andrew_does anyone know about grub?
10:37.09mozratandrew, not a lot unfortunately, sorry.
10:37.20mozratandrew, which distro is it?
10:37.25andrew_debian
10:37.56mozratwhat happens when you boot? ERRor 13?
10:38.44mozratLeeds, anyone interesting?
10:39.04Leedsmozrat: a little, yes
10:40.16mozratGrizzy???
10:41.24Leedsno, Maisie... G's in the US for a bit
10:43.15Leedsshe apparently has (had?) a techie ex... she knows about open source, knows about software freedom, even knows the PHP sucks - although she may not be quite sure what that means :-)
10:53.48mozratnice :-)
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11:21.59Copemorning
11:26.35goltorafternon
11:50.49ErwinFinally the weather is more bearable. I'll bet when my new evaporative air conditioner arrives Wednesday, there will be no days with sun for the rest of the year
11:55.30zOOzhi
11:55.52z00daxErwin: keep that away from the computers
11:56.11z00daxI've seen way too many machines die due to the exceptionally high humidity
12:14.40boudiccasz00dax; you got skype working on your box?
12:27.51wethrinMorning
12:33.05boudiccaswethrin; afternoon :)
12:33.36wethrin:)
12:33.48boudiccasG-ds shifting his furniture around again [aka theres thunder in the vicinity]
12:34.08wethrinNothing up north yet
12:34.21boudiccasit'll come :)
12:34.28goltorso much cooler...
12:34.36wethrinmayube :)
12:34.45wethrinGarforth had thunder yesterday, so maybbe it's going south
12:35.03wethrinGah. I really need to get my proper firewall set up
12:35.21boudiccasi think that its moving up your ways, gradually but may peter out before it reaches you
12:35.33wethrinHmm
12:35.43wethrinI suppose I should go shopping first, then
12:36.31goltor'proper' firewall?
12:36.37boudiccasnah, live life dangerously ... wait for the weather to change :)
12:39.33wethrinYeah; OpenBSD box
12:39.43wethrinRather than just using my crappy little ADSL router
12:40.47wethrinApparently it's raining hard in Oxford
12:41.03wethrinIRC++ # weather reports from around the country
12:50.31boudiccashere we're getting the thunder, then a quick shower [just enough to wet the paving in the courtyard] and then warm and humid again
12:51.27goltorany gentoo users that could offer me some quick advice?
12:53.22ErwinIt's raining in CW too.
12:53.47Erwinz00dax: Hmm. How far away do you reckon it should be? It's going to cool me as I sit near my computer after all :)
13:47.34wethringrr. I appear to have the world's slowest washing machine
13:48.38goltormine takes about 3 fucken hours
13:57.54wethrinOh. Yours is slower, then
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14:06.23wethrin~>~>~.
14:06.28wethringrr
14:06.33mozrathey George
14:24.59Georgego away
14:25.15mozrat'xcuse me?
14:25.21mozratWhat was that for?
14:25.34George...
14:27.20mozratdot dot dot what?
14:27.52Georgebye
14:27.53*** part/#gllug George (i=authdeni@vm.gwright.org.uk)
14:28.01mozrat*blink*
14:28.15goltormust be a bad time of month
14:28.55mozratI think I'll just put him on ignore. He is perfectly inoffensive in real life
14:29.07mozratjust a complete idiot on IRC
14:35.47goltorimho the way people act on irc is more indicative of their true personality as there's no confrontation as in rl
14:36.30mozratI think George gets a lot more confrontation online than in real life
15:01.08morsing'lo
15:02.11mozratmorsing!
15:22.25mozratibot wake morsing
15:22.26ibotmorsing: GOOD MORNING!!!
16:08.34Leedshello
16:09.03mozratHi Leeds
16:09.15Leedswell, that was a long tiring day
16:09.33mozratbut fun?
16:09.57Leedsoh, yes
16:11.17Leedswent to Lamma, did the walk between the two ferry destinations on the island which takes around 90-120 minutes, had long late lunch in the veggie organic bookstore cafe, wandered around town, had a long slow drink in the Deli Lamma, got the ferry back...
16:11.41mozratSounds good :-)
16:12.13Leedscame up to my place so she could shower - she lives at the other end of Hong Kong - then went up the Peak in a cab, went and enjoyed the view, did the Peak walk - 90 minutes or so - decided not to eat up there so jumped in a cab down...
16:13.19mozratnice
16:13.38Leedswent to SoHo, tried to get into Enoteca (acetone backwards) which was full, wandered a little, stopped at an Italian place, I had pasta, she had a pizza, we shared a bottle of wine and some desert, and the manager came over and gave us some grappa... then she jumped in a cab home, I jumped on the escalator, just before it closed
16:13.45Leedslong day...
16:13.57mozratI've been debugging why my blog doesn't show images when syndicated by planet, and I've come to the conclusion everyone else in the world needs to upgrade their version of feedparser
16:14.21Leedsheh
16:14.24mozratI've managed to annoy George by saying the words "Hey George" and then I put him on ignore forever
16:14.29Leedsever read sam ruby's blog?
16:14.38mozratand I tried to learn Twisted
16:14.41mozratnope
16:15.01Leedsworth a look - he's very into his feeds, and he's hacked on feedparser quite a lot to make it more robust
16:15.48mozratCool, I've found the URL
16:16.39Leedsintertwingly.net, approximately, IIRC
16:17.21mozratyes
16:18.03Leedshe's worth following - I've heard him speak, and he's pretty on the spot when it comes to feeds and scripting - and not just in Ruby :-)
16:18.29mozratLeeds: Not about to ask you questions about it now, but do you know much Twisted?
16:19.08Leedsno... I've looked at it, and pretty much decided that a) it was too complex and b) it was too complex for what I was doing at the time
16:19.40Leedstoo complex for me to be bothered to learn, not too complex in an absolute sense
16:20.28mozratIt doesn't seem entirely straightforward. Even the most basic of examples requires additional subclasses and then tieing them together in a particular way
16:20.35LeedsI'm reasonably sure it's very good in the right place
16:22.24goltor<PROTECTED>
16:22.38Leedsthat's not 100% for sure - zope was meant to be very good, but frankly it isn't
16:23.17mozratgoltor: somewhere in the deepest depths of my mind I think it does, unless you tell it not too
16:26.08goltorok since the last entry is from June 6 and the fact that i hang around in some rather dodgy irc channels, i am going to assume that my snort is in fact officially fuct
16:26.57mozratgoltor: apart from this channel you mean?
16:27.09Leedsofficially functionaly?
16:27.19Leedss/y?$/y?/
16:27.27goltormozrat, yeah i wasn't referring to this chan :P
16:28.08goltorLeeds, huh?
16:29.37goltorthat sub didn't make sense to me
16:29.58goltoror ibot apparently
16:30.14goltoribot s/y?$/y?/
16:31.55Leedssee above: far too much fresh air, dehyration, half a bottle of wine and a shot and a half of grappa... I don't have to make sense :-)
16:32.20goltorfair enough
16:32.37goltorToday is Pungeday after all
16:32.59Leedspwhat?
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16:39.06Leedsmorning George
16:39.09Georgehi
16:42.56mozratHmm, I bought a second hand X24 thinkpad the other day - didn't realise how restrictive only one USB port would be
16:43.13mozratmight have to buy a USB hub
16:43.14LeedsI bought a new Dell
16:43.25mozratI know!
16:43.32Leeds3, maybe 4 ports
16:43.59mozratWhat size did you buy?
16:44.09Leeds14.1"
16:44.37mozratIs this to replace your Apple?
16:45.10Leedsno... I stopped using my Apple last year when work gave me a thinkpad... I'm going to give the Apple to my dad when I head back next month
16:45.24mozratRight
16:45.27Leeds4 ports - 2 on the side, 2 on the back
16:45.44Leedshttp://arstechnica.com/reviews/hardware/e1405.ars/2
16:45.59mozratGeorge: Do the newer 12" thinkpads come with more USB ports?
16:46.07GeorgeI've got 2
16:46.23mozratHmm, thats twice as many as mine :(
16:46.39mozratIt's nice though - and well wirth the 180 I paid for it
16:46.46mozrats/wirth/worth/
16:46.56mozratyeah, thanks ibot
16:47.02GeorgeI paid 650 for mine.
16:47.04Georgebrand new
16:47.44Leedsibot change 7277 hkd to gbp
16:47.56morsingbeer
16:48.12mozratGeorge: did you damage it whacking wethrin ?
16:48.18Georgeno
16:48.24Leedsmorsing: no, wine, grappa and company
16:48.40mozratGeorge: fortunate
16:51.44Leedsit's probably going to get here before slackware 11 - but not by much
17:02.32goltorthe time has come to venture outside, to the pub!!!
17:02.48mozrathave fun!
17:03.22mozratgosh, yast is a slow piece of crap for package management
17:04.53George:'(
17:23.50Georgeg/win 32
17:23.51Georgewoops.
17:36.22rhowehttp://www.viewlondon.co.uk/masturbation-marathon-london_index.html
18:09.49ErwinReal, or a really big wind-up?
18:20.14Georgewow, .22 ammo is really cheap
18:27.19wethrinhello
18:27.34wethrinmozrat: ping?
18:38.48GeorgePHOTOS
18:38.57wethrinWhen I find my USB cable
18:39.44Georgeit's been four weeks you fucking tit
18:39.53wethrinOi. Be polite
18:40.06GeorgeNO
18:40.44wethrinThen fuck off
19:26.15mozratwethrin: pong
19:26.27GeorgeI HATE YOU ALL
19:26.32wethrinare you sm@fsfe.jabber ?
19:26.37mozratwethrin: yep
19:26.41wethrinAha. Right
19:26.48GeorgeSAUSAGES
19:26.50GeorgeAND ... ME
19:26.57mozrattrying to move my Jabber contacts across from Gtalk
19:27.07wethrinRight
19:35.45GeorgeSAUSAGES
19:35.49GeorgeAND FLAMING DEATH
19:35.51GeorgeARRRGGGGHHHH
19:37.21mozratOh be quiet
19:38.58GeorgeNO!
19:39.49wethrinWooo. One of my Sparc CPUs is broken
19:39.56GeorgeAIOEWIEHGOSIHGOSDHGOSDHGSD!!!
19:51.23morsingGeorge: Behave!
19:52.02GeorgeSHUT UP YOU ASSHOLE
19:55.07mozrat*sigh*
19:55.09mozrathi morsing
19:56.35GeorgeDEATH
19:57.31wethrinGeorge: If you can't say anything useful, don't say anything at all
19:58.53GeorgeNO
20:09.57CopeGeorge: are you being a prick?
20:11.58*** part/#gllug George (i=authdeni@vm.gwright.org.uk)
20:18.07wethrinevidently :)
20:19.54mozratthats a big "yep" from me
20:23.40CopeHe's not a happy fellow atm
20:24.55wethrinany reason?
20:25.16mozratI would guess women
20:27.29Copeone in particular
20:29.27mozratnn
20:40.31wethrinnn Cope
20:40.45wethrinHrm.. Then he shouldn't take it out on us
20:48.22mozratexactly
20:55.18wethrinDo you want a slightly broken Sparc CPU?
20:56.44wethrinto my laptop, it's not *that* hot in here
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21:02.20wethrinresudaed!
21:02.28resudaedevening
21:02.41wethrinhow goes?
21:10.27resudaedplaying on my laptop in my new9ish) house
21:10.35resudaeds/9/(
21:12.13ErwinWoo, new Vernor Vinge book out -- Rainbow's End
21:12.22wethrinJust moved somewhere, I take it?
21:19.27resudaedyeah, another part of sheffield
21:21.43resudaedhttp://maps.google.co.uk/maps?f=q&hl=en&q=s2+4fb&ie=UTF8&t=h&om=1&ll=53.368217,-1.468982&spn=0.00297,0.010729
21:21.59resudaednothing like a nice simple to remember url
21:27.53zOOzi am looking for a job in IT. could you offer something?
21:29.31resudaedzOOz : any particular job?
21:31.25*** join/#gllug dani (n=dani@host86-140-213-9.range86-140.btcentralplus.com)
21:31.52zOOzSystems admin, network admin
21:31.59zOOzany IT technician
21:32.23zOOzi came from Lithuania, and looking for a job
21:32.43zOOzsome people offered to join this channel
21:33.00wethrinJobs occasionally get posted to the Lonix and Gllug lists
21:33.11zOOzLonix
21:33.12zOOz?
21:33.30resudaedibot google lonix
21:33.32wethrinLonix Unix/Linux Users Group
21:33.40wethrinwww.lonix.org.uk
21:33.41zOOzi'm subscribed to Gllug mailling lists
21:33.46resudaedis ibot dead?
21:33.56wethrinibot ping
21:33.57ibotpong
21:34.09resudaeddoes ibot not do google anymore then?
21:34.45resudaedibot google something
21:35.55wethrinI guess not
21:36.13resudaedyeah, I'm coming to that conclusion
21:37.23resudaedibot seen clyphox
21:37.26ibotclyphox <n=clyphox@82-35-127-97.cable.ubr01.enfi.blueyonder.co.uk> was last seen on IRC in channel #gllug, 77d 8h 53m 1s ago, saying: 'wish I was there'.
21:38.43wethrinWoo. Buffer underrun error!
21:40.06zOOzwethrin: thanks
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