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`00:51.55`	`*** join/#gllug George_ (i=authdeni@vm.gwright.org.uk)`
`01:30.11`	`*** join/#gllug Leeds (n=richardc@202.82.163.139)`
`01:35.21`	`JAV`	`morning Leeds`
`01:35.30`	`Leeds`	`morning JAV :-)`
`01:42.04`	`JAV`	`bedtime. ZZZZzzz`
`01:43.52`	`Leeds`	`g'night`
`03:13.49`	`morsing`	`'morning`
`03:15.51`	`morsing`	`Leeds!`
`03:17.05`	`Leeds`	`morning morsing`
`03:17.46`	`Leeds`	`http://www.info.gov.hk/digital21/eng/structure/iso_main_flash.html`
`03:19.43`	`Leeds`	`this stuff is hilarious!`
`03:20.28`	`Leeds`	`an animation of a couple of warehouse staff discussing extensions to unicode, and where they can download the support from :-)`
`03:26.42`	`Leeds`	`all credit to them - they do provide Linux support in their input software, and a fully Chinese-supporting font as a gzipped-ttf for download`
`03:28.28`	`Leeds`	`the font is 23MB, unzipped!`
`04:14.08`	`sabinef72`	`morning`
`04:15.13`	`Leeds`	`shalom`
`04:15.20`	`Leeds`	`http://tinyurl.com/mcf7h`
`04:15.46`	`sabinef72`	`how are you Leeds ?`
`04:16.09`	`Leeds`	`not bad... getting over the cold...`
`04:17.26`	`Leeds`	`bye-bye portugal...`
`04:18.20`	`Leeds`	`Italy-France final`
`04:18.57`	`Leeds`	`and I say again - you don't mean 'felt of her bed'`
`04:19.00`	`sabinef72`	`yeahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh`
`04:19.05`	`Leeds`	`you might mean 'fell out of her bed'`
`04:19.39`	`sabinef72`	`I have a problem with words like "out" "in" "up" "down" "at" .....`
`04:20.40`	`Leeds`	`so I see...`
`04:22.10`	`Leeds`	`also with fell/fall and felt/feel`
`04:22.10`	`sabinef72`	`I'll take a breakfast`
`04:22.34`	`sabinef72`	`yes and many other things`
`04:22.41`	`sabinef72`	`english makes me mad sometimes`
`04:23.29`	`Leeds`	`the French make the English mad pretty often`
`04:23.44`	`Leeds`	`(have breakfast, not take a breakfast)`
`04:24.27`	`sabinef72`	`yes with our stupid male/female words and with conjugaison`
`04:24.40`	`sabinef72`	`conjugation`
`04:25.13`	`sabinef72`	`ok I'll have breakfast`
`04:25.43`	`Leeds`	`and I'm going to have lunch in about half an hour`
`04:26.00`	`sabinef72`	`oh I see : It's 06:25 am here`
`04:27.01`	`sabinef72`	`see you later`
`04:28.11`	`Leeds`	`seeya`
`04:55.47`	`morsing`	`yawn`
`04:57.22`	`morsing`	`My server with 455 days uptime was killed by thunder this morning :-(`
`04:58.06`	`Leeds`	`you didn't make the appropriate sacrifices to the thunder gods?`
`05:01.31`	`morsing`	`:-(`
`05:01.47`	`morsing`	`Need a new UPS though`
`05:02.19`	`Leeds`	`lunchtime`
`05:02.43`	`morsing`	`What's for lunch?`
`05:03.58`	`Leeds`	`probably the usual tuna and/or cheese bread buns :-(`
`05:04.10`	`Leeds`	`I wish I could find something better around here`
`05:05.05`	`Leeds`	`I've got 6 months uptime on my Mac mini at home`
`05:06.12`	`Leeds`	`anyway, gone`
`06:02.51`	`TimMagic`	`leeds: those guys were speaking perfect english - just use that and have no unicode worries!`
`06:03.00`	`TimMagic`	`morning everyone else!`
`06:22.01`	`*** join/#gllug mozrat (i=mozrat@silenceisdefeat.org)`
`06:22.23`	`mozrat`	`morning!`
`06:25.18`	`TimMagic`	`morning mozrat!`
`06:25.26`	`TimMagic`	`how are you?`
`06:29.08`	`Cope`	`moin`
`06:29.15`	`TimMagic`	`yo cope`
`06:29.43`	`mozrat`	`TimMagic, very well thanks`
`06:29.51`	`mozrat`	`Hi Cope`
`06:30.04`	`Cope`	`hello TimMagic`
`06:30.06`	`Cope`	`Hi mozrat`
`06:30.14`	`Leeds`	`it's ironic really - no-one would point to anything written recently by ESR for any productive purpose... but his older writings still get a lot of respect`
`06:30.19`	`Leeds`	`hello all`
`06:30.52`	`Cope`	`Leeds: funny you should say that - I was looking at ESR's page yesterday and wondering when he last did/said anything worthwhile`
`06:31.05`	`Leeds`	`Cope: you've seen his blog, I assume?`
`06:31.20`	`Cope`	`Leeds: I haven't read it`
`06:31.22`	`Cope`	`any good?`
`06:31.41`	`Leeds`	`only to confirm his complete looniness`
`06:32.01`	`sabinef72`	`hi again`
`06:32.06`	`sabinef72`	`finally I went again to bed`
`06:32.11`	`Leeds`	`http://esr.ibiblio.org/ "Armed and dangerous: Sex, software, politics, and firearms. Life’s simple pleasures…"`
`06:32.19`	`Leeds`	`(back to bed)`
`06:32.23`	`TimMagic`	`hey leeds and sabinef72`
`06:32.45`	`sabinef72`	`thanks Leeds`
`06:33.02`	`sabinef72`	`so finally I went back to bed`
`06:33.13`	`sabinef72`	`hi TimMagic`
`06:33.35`	`Leeds`	`sabinef72: so are you in bed now?`
`06:33.55`	`sabinef72`	`no`
`06:34.15`	`TimMagic`	`i love i choons!`
`06:34.18`	`TimMagic`	`its great`
`06:34.44`	`TimMagic`	`leeds: u get my msg about that flash animation?`
`06:34.46`	`Leeds`	`TimMagic: really? the shop or the software?`
`06:34.58`	`TimMagic`	`leeds: both`
`06:35.17`	`Leeds`	`TimMagic: yes - did you not see that that was my first comment on it?`
`06:35.33`	`Leeds`	`that they are both white English speakers, strangely, exchanging mail in Chinese`
`06:36.00`	`TimMagic`	`yup - my bad!`
`06:36.07`	`Leeds`	`anyway, surely itms is useless as long as you can't actually get the music out of the encypted blob they sell you?`
`06:36.38`	`TimMagic`	`but you can get it from the encrytped blob`
`06:36.50`	`TimMagic`	`stick it on a cdrw then rip it into a proper format`
`06:37.27`	`TimMagic`	`plus - where lese could you buy chesney hawkes for 79p?`
`06:37.27`	`Leeds`	`losing even more quality in the meantime? I'm better off buying a dodgy CD from a shop in town... probably quicker as well`
`06:37.37`	`TimMagic`	`true!`
`06:37.51`	`TimMagic`	`but i cant condone buying illegal cds can i?`
`06:37.58`	`Leeds`	`okay, that doesn't really help you - why would I want to buy Chesney Hawkes for 7p, never mind 79p?`
`06:38.08`	`TimMagic`	`coz hes a legend`
`06:38.37`	`Leeds`	`that's the strange thing - the CDs here, even for a couple of quid, seem to be really good quality`
`06:38.56`	`TimMagic`	`sound wise or music wise?`
`06:39.18`	`Leeds`	`packaging and sound`
`06:39.20`	`TimMagic`	`if you but a westlife cd in HK do they sound better?`
`06:40.05`	`Leeds`	`that I can't tell you, since I've never bought a westlife CD - in Hong Kong, in the UK, or anywhere else`
`06:40.11`	`Leeds`	`Boyzone, on the other hand...`
`06:40.17`	`TimMagic`	`:-)`
`06:41.44`	`Leeds`	`Cope: amazing, isn't it?`
`06:42.33`	`morsing`	`Cope!`
`06:43.37`	`Cope`	`yay morsing`
`06:43.58`	`Cope`	`Leeds: makes me wonder if he was ever sane`
`06:45.38`	`Leeds`	`right... slightly scary, if that's how he always was, how much credit he was given - how much of a figurehead he was`
`06:46.08`	`Leeds`	`Cope: you done tomorrow?`
`06:46.16`	`Cope`	`Leeds: precisely my thinking`
`06:46.24`	`Cope`	`Leeds: yeah. tomorrow is my last day`
`06:48.06`	`morsing`	`Cope: Power outae this morning took out my 455 days uptime PC :(`
`06:48.10`	`morsing`	`g`
`06:48.18`	`Cope`	`morsing: bummer @(`
`06:48.58`	`Cope`	`$ uptime 7:48am up 371 day(s), 22:54, 2 users, load average: 0.01, 0.04, 0.04`
`06:49.25`	`Leeds`	`I've got nothing longer than 6 months, at home or work`
`06:49.46`	`morsing`	`We've got several systems over two years at work`
`06:50.14`	`Leeds`	`100 packets transmitted, 100 received, 0% packet loss, time 99008ms`
`06:50.14`	`Leeds`	`rtt min/avg/max/mdev = 2.424/3.785/24.386/3.588 ms`
`06:50.21`	`Leeds`	`now that is more like it!`
`06:50.36`	`Leeds`	`except I'm an idiot - ignore that`
`06:52.34`	`Cope`	`morsing: well... how about:`
`06:52.35`	`Cope`	`# uname -a`
`06:52.35`	`Cope`	`SunOS krb5-master.digex.com.kntr 5.7 Generic_106541-10 sun4u sparc SUNW,UltraSPARC-IIi-cEngine`
`06:52.38`	`Cope`	`# uptime 2:52am up 2152 day(s), 8:16, 1 user, load average: 0.03, 0.03, 0.03`
`06:52.54`	`Leeds`	`that was to my first hop from home... to my second hop, I just got 0% loss, under 40ms average ping... which is what I expect all the time`
`06:52.59`	`Leeds`	`Cope: that's a running, working machine?`
`06:53.15`	`Cope`	`Leeds: yep; master kerberos and ntp server`
`06:53.21`	`Leeds`	`impressive`
`06:54.04`	`*** join/#gllug sabinette (n=sabinef7@ipv4.sabine-et-benoit.com)`
`06:54.11`	`Leeds`	`there have been no OS updates in 5 years which needed a reboot?`
`06:54.16`	`sabinette`	`hi`
`06:54.21`	`morsing`	`sabinette!`
`06:54.24`	`Leeds`	`sabinette: can you make us all a drink, if you're in the kitchen? :-)`
`06:54.28`	`Cope`	`Leeds: it would appear not`
`06:54.31`	`morsing`	`Yeah :)`
`06:54.39`	`morsing`	`Mmm... Coffee`
`06:54.43`	`Cope`	`mmm coffee`
`06:54.51`	`Leeds`	`mine's a hot chocolate`
`06:54.53`	`sabinette`	`I can make you a good coffee with nice bread and butter`
`06:54.59`	`morsing`	`Thanks sabinette`
`06:55.05`	`Cope`	`I was just going to say I want some good bread`
`06:55.06`	`Leeds`	`woohoo - she can stay :-)`
`06:55.11`	`sabinette`	`hot chocolate is possible too`
`06:55.25`	`sabinette`	`and french marmelade ?`
`06:55.34`	`TimMagic`	`au revoir tout le monde`
`06:55.41`	`TimMagic`	`a plus tard yo!`
`06:55.42`	`morsing`	`TimMagic!`
`06:55.46`	`sabinette`	`bye TimMagic`
`06:55.47`	`TimMagic`	`morsing`
`06:56.52`	`TimMagic`	`toodles`
`06:56.54`	`sabinette`	`what a good english man is eating for breakfast ?`
`06:57.14`	`morsing`	`Bacon!`
`06:57.59`	`sabinette`	`fried bacon ?`
`06:58.20`	`morsing`	`Mmm... Bacon, mushrooms, scrambled eggs, sausages`
`06:58.29`	`Leeds`	`black pudding`
`06:58.29`	`morsing`	`Mmm... MMMMMmmm....`
`06:58.32`	`morsing`	`Haggis`
`06:58.37`	`morsing`	`Beans`
`06:59.02`	`Leeds`	`haggis is not what an Englishman has for breakfast`
`06:59.33`	`Leeds`	`muffins, of course`
`06:59.51`	`Cope`	`scrambled egg and smoked salmon`
`06:59.52`	`Cope`	`:)`
`06:59.57`	`Cope`	`with freshly baked bread`
`07:00.40`	`Leeds`	`I normally have a bowl of weetabix, with skimmed milk, a couple of slices of wholemeal toast with olive marg, a glass of orange or grapefruit juice, and maybe some water`
`07:01.06`	`Cope`	`today I had.... coffee`
`07:01.07`	`Cope`	`x 2`
`07:04.55`	`morsing`	`Cope: You're posh!`
`07:05.08`	`pontifex`	`we have a machine that does all that :D`
`07:05.14`	`pontifex`	`it's not freshly grown though`
`07:05.17`	`pontifex`	`</uber_snob>`
`07:06.19`	`pontifex`	`i am really liking the iced coffee that cafe nero do`
`07:07.02`	`Cope`	`morsing: I am indeed`
`07:32.02`	`sabinef72`	`what is black pudding ?`
`07:32.44`	`Leeds`	`it's a sausage made mainly from blood - I've never tasted it`
`07:34.56`	`Leeds`	`good plan... but then you lot eat frog's legs and snails, and you're complaining about British food? :-)`
`07:35.09`	`sabinef72`	`looooool`
`07:35.15`	`sabinef72`	`but not for breakfast`
`07:35.40`	`sabinef72`	`and there are many many months I didn't eat them`
`07:35.51`	`Leeds`	`I've never eaten either, and I never will`
`07:36.05`	`sabinef72`	`black pudding for lunch or dinner could be ok`
`07:36.13`	`sabinef72`	`but not for breakfast`
`07:36.22`	`sabinef72`	`I only eat a yoghourt for breakfast`
`07:36.38`	`Leeds`	`it's traditional as part of a full, very unhealthy, English breakfast`
`07:37.18`	`Cope`	`ibot 323733383 / 1024`
`07:37.19`	`ibot`	`316145.8818359375`
`07:37.29`	`sabinef72`	`it's the same when I was in Thailand, eat rice soup for breakfast was not possible for me`
`07:37.47`	`Leeds`	`hmm... don't want to be on call`
`07:37.58`	`Leeds`	`congee is the local breakfast stuff - I've never tasted it`
`07:38.29`	`Leeds`	`apparently Nvidia have a warehouse somewhere near here...`
`07:43.48`	`Leeds`	`" linux jobs [...] jobs 1 - 10 of 955 matches "`
`07:44.57`	`morsing`	`Leeds: YOU'VE NEVER WHAT?!??!?!?!`
`07:45.05`	`morsing`	`sabinef72: It's very good actually`
`07:45.17`	`sabinef72`	`morsing: what ?`
`07:45.21`	`morsing`	`sabinef72: You will have to try it when you come over`
`07:45.30`	`morsing`	`Black pudding`
`07:45.37`	`sabinef72`	`I'll try of course. I love tasting food`
`07:45.58`	`sabinef72`	`but not the carrott cake... I'm not friend with carrotts`
`07:46.12`	`Leeds`	`morsing: I've never tasted congee... or black pudding... or frog's legs, snails, or bacon`
`07:46.52`	`Leeds`	`hmm... can I talk my way into an ARM Linux kernel job, which wants someone who speaks Cantonese?`
`07:47.04`	`Cope`	`I would imagine not`
`07:48.05`	`sabinef72`	`morsing: did you try frog's legs and snails ?`
`07:48.13`	`Leeds`	`http://www.cwlinux.com`
`07:48.39`	`morsing`	`sabinef72: I've had frog's legs`
`07:48.42`	`morsing`	`Never snails`
`07:49.00`	`morsing`	`Leeds: You poor thing`
`07:49.01`	`Cope`	`yummy`
`07:49.07`	`sabinef72`	`I'll prepare some especially for you if you come in Paris to visit me`
`07:49.16`	`morsing`	`sabinef72: Are you inviting?`
`07:49.26`	`mozrat`	`morsing!`
`07:49.31`	`morsing`	`mozrat!`
`07:49.35`	`morsing`	`<PROTECTED>`
`07:49.37`	`sabinef72`	`Cope: so come on !`
`07:49.43`	`mozrat`	`there can be only one!`
`07:49.56`	`Leeds`	`morsing: none - except possibly congee - are kosher`
`07:49.58`	`sabinef72`	`the come back of mozrat`
`07:49.59`	`morsing`	`mozrat: Your stats page up again?`
`07:50.10`	`Leeds`	`mozrat: next year's picnic... by the Seine...`
`07:51.05`	`mozrat`	`morsing: it all should be up, yes`
`07:51.20`	`mozrat`	`sabinef72: "The return of mozrat"`
`07:51.24`	`Cope`	`morsing: still can't get onto your box :(`
`07:51.37`	`sabinef72`	`mozrat: ok the return of the nice mozrat`
`07:55.12`	`morsing`	`Cope: ADSL line not working`
`07:55.58`	`Cope`	`morsing: bummer`
`07:57.08`	`Cope`	`what physical size is a 43P-260?`
`07:57.22`	`Leeds`	`I appear to have joined a German professional networking site`
`08:04.44`	`Cope`	`Width: 340mm`
`08:04.44`	`Cope`	`Depth: 713mm`
`08:04.45`	`Cope`	`Height: 610mm`
`08:04.49`	`Cope`	`sound about right`
`08:04.51`	`morsing`	`Cope: I would say HxWxD 70cm x 30cm x 100cm?`
`08:04.55`	`morsing`	`Ahh...`
`08:04.57`	`*** join/#gllug shai_ (n=Shai@l192-117-111-15.broadband.actcom.net.il)`
`08:05.11`	`morsing`	`Pretty close`
`08:05.14`	`morsing`	`Weight 45kg`
`08:05.18`	`morsing`	`shai_!`
`08:05.33`	`morsing`
`08:05.41`	`Cope`	`morsing: if your connection is likely to be dodgy, was wondering if I could "borrow" it`
`08:06.00`	`morsing`	`Hmm... It's really, really not easy to move around`
`08:06.09`	`Cope`	`on account of it being heavy?`
`08:06.14`	`morsing`	`Hmm... Let me consider it`
`08:06.23`	`morsing`	`Bulky, oddly shaped and very heavy`
`08:06.32`	`Cope`	`s'ok - i should probably just buy one soon`
`08:06.35`	`morsing`	`Getting down stairs etc`
`08:06.53`	`morsing`	`Cope: Don't tety have a play system at DLR?`
`08:07.11`	`Cope`	`there are staging and dev boxes`
`08:07.12`	`morsing`	`Also the 43Ps don't have virtualisation and logical LPARS`
`08:07.23`	`Leeds`	`don't think I want to work in Shatin, really`
`08:07.23`	`Cope`	`but nothing I can trash and rebuild and really fuck about with`
`08:08.08`	`morsing`	`O TwoSheds :(`
`08:09.23`	`Cope`	`right... offline for a few hours`
`08:09.24`	`Leeds`	`who the hell asks for experience in assembly language programming nowadays? particularly when you've named three different processor architectures elsewhere in the job description`
`08:09.27`	`Cope`	`speak later`
`08:09.39`	`Leeds`	`seeya`
`08:11.29`	`Leeds`	`there does seem to be a lot of embedded Linux work in Hong Kong, relatively... I have may to talk up my extensive embedded and handheld Linux experience`
`08:11.48`	`*** join/#gllug huw-l (n=scmhl2@ygridll.cs.cf.ac.uk)`
`08:17.07`	`morsing`	`huw-l!`
`08:18.00`	`Leeds`	`huw-l: you ever come across a company called GDC?`
`08:21.01`	`mozrat`	`http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z1cP_i6-BWg # Funny Daily Show clip about UK Politics`
`08:22.00`	`huw-l`	`Leeds: yes`
`08:22.18`	`huw-l`	`they used to make whitebox computers with BSD or linux installed`
`08:22.35`	`huw-l`	`first linux boxes at MPC where from GDC`
`08:22.47`	`huw-l`	`'/where/were/'`
`08:22.54`	`Leeds`	`don't think that's the company I'm talking about... sure that wasn't GND?`
`08:23.06`	`huw-l`	`hmm.. maybe it was`
`08:23.17`	`Leeds`	`based out in Docklands?`
`08:23.27`	`huw-l`	`see this is what having a TLA as a company name is a bad idea`
`08:23.41`	`huw-l`	`'/what/why/'`
`08:23.46`	`Leeds`	`I'm talking about http://www.gdc-tech.com/ - maybe too far down the pipeline for you`
`08:23.49`	`huw-l`	`can't speak this morning`
`08:24.49`	`huw-l`	`digital delivery company, didn't have anything to do with that side of the business so can't comment`
`08:25.06`	`Leeds`	`http://www.jobsdb.com/HK/EN/Job.asp?R=JDB091071821 is the job...`
`08:25.21`	`Cope`	`hmm`
`08:26.42`	`Leeds`	`google, it seems, don't do technical stuff here - just sales and localisation`
`08:27.36`	`sabinette`	`bye bye`
`08:27.46`	`Leeds`	`bye`
`08:30.27`	`Leeds`	`wow... someone wanting Z80 experience...`
`08:31.09`	`Leeds`	`and also PXA and ARM9`
`08:32.05`	`Cope`	`(and appears to be still online)`
`08:55.35`	`Cope`	`:)`
`08:57.01`	`morsing`	`:(`
`08:57.35`	`Cope`	`mozrat: confused by your sort syntax`
`09:01.39`	`mozrat`	`Cope, I didn't know you could count down with the range function`
`09:02.26`	`Cope`	`ok`
`09:03.31`	`mozrat`	`well - I thought it was possible but couldn't work out how`
`09:05.26`	`Cope`	`sure`
`09:06.19`	`Cope`	`easy really`
`09:06.20`	`Cope`	`>>> i = range(10,1,-2)`
`09:06.20`	`Cope`	`>>> i`
`09:06.20`	`Cope`	`[10, 8, 6, 4, 2]`
`09:06.27`	`Cope`	`just as:`
`09:06.35`	`Cope`	`>>> i = range(1,10,2)`
`09:06.35`	`mozrat`	`everything is easy when you know how :-)`
`09:06.36`	`Cope`	`>>> i`
`09:06.36`	`Cope`	`[1, 3, 5, 7, 9]`
`09:06.46`	`mozrat`	`I didn't have my trusty book handy`
`09:06.58`	`Leeds`	`yay for python`
`09:07.08`	`Leeds`	`ibot change 1 gbp to sgd`
`09:07.23`	`Leeds`	`okay, so 3 to the pound...`
`09:07.51`	`Cope`	`mozrat: http://docs.python.org/lib/built-in-funcs.html#l2h-56`
`09:08.11`	`Cope`	`I find the built-in functions to be pretty well documneted`
`09:08.25`	`Cope`	`Although I do sometimes find python documentation tough going`
`09:08.32`	`Cope`	`s/tough/very tough/`
`09:08.53`	`Leeds`	`you can also help(range) of course, in the interpreter`
`09:26.38`	`Cope`	`1 hour left on my bicycle auction!`
`09:26.51`	`Cope`	`�410 so far`
`09:26.57`	`Leeds`	`you're auditioning for a bicycle?`
`09:27.27`	`Cope`	`(sa)`
`09:27.45`	`Leeds`	`djw: letter not found`
`09:27.57`	`Leeds`	`Cope: hello`
`09:28.11`	`Leeds`	`okay... xchat is completing nicks for me when I'm not asking it to`
`09:28.28`	`Leeds`	`d: letter not found`
`09:28.29`	`Leeds`	`better`
`09:28.40`	`Cope`	`:)`
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`09:29.07`	`mozrat`	`it's danip!`
`09:29.40`	`danip`	`Hi!`
`09:30.01`	`danip`	`I'm back from Spain.. it's been quite hot here I've heard.. :)`
`09:30.06`	`Leeds`	`good evening danip!`
`09:30.11`	`mozrat`	`danip: not today`
`09:30.47`	`danip`	`Yes.. It's good to be cloudy again`
`09:31.12`	`Leeds`	`where in Spain were you?`
`09:31.37`	`danip`	`Estartit, an small village 150Km north of Barcelona.`
`09:32.15`	`danip`	`It was also very hot there, but at least I could have a bath (and a couple of beers at a decent price! :)`
`09:32.22`	`Leeds`	`ah! I've never heard of it!`
`09:33.05`	`danip`	`Leeds: Really? Cool.. It's quite nice and peaceful.`
`09:33.45`	`Leeds`	`my knowledge of Spain is confined to a strip from Malaga to Tarifa`
`09:34.55`	`danip`	`:) I had been in Marbella some years ago.. its good. Full of british people too :)`
`09:35.29`	`Leeds`	`yeah, Marbella itself is overdone... my parents have a place in Estepona, which is still somewhat Spanish :-)`
`09:35.33`	`JAV`	`Leeds: don't worry, I didn't heard about Estartit :)`
`09:35.55`	`Leeds`	`JAV: I did wonder...`
`09:36.23`	`JAV`	`(good morning)`
`09:42.57`	`JAV`	`http://lestartit.net/Webcam/ --> the beach is almost empty`
`09:44.55`	`Leeds`	`looks nice`
`09:44.59`	`danip`	`:) It's strange. Turism is getting worse every year in there, prices have arisen and people may prefer go to cheaper countries.`
`09:45.31`	`Leeds`	`sooner or later, you run out of countries with good beaches, good weather, good enough infrastructure...`
`09:45.39`	`Leeds`	`and close enough to the UK for cheap flights`
`09:47.22`	`danip`	`I got the flight for just 120 punds, for me and my girlfriend. I think the Stansted Express ticket was more expensive than the flight :))`
`09:50.07`	`danip`	`Ah, and there's a lot of wifi signal there, people haven't heard of wep/wpa yet :D`
`09:55.02`	`wethrin`	`hello`
`09:55.18`	`Leeds`	`greetings wethrin`
`09:55.52`	`wethrin`	`eyup`
`09:56.22`	`Cope`	`hello wethrin`
`09:57.40`	`wethrin`	`I'm being called for coffee!`
`10:00.46`	`Cope`	`:)`
`10:05.19`	`morsing`	`wethrin: I can't come :(`
`10:05.32`	`Leeds`	`hmm... ants with pedometers`
`10:08.07`	`Cope`	`morsing: hmm... have you tried really extreme porn?`
`10:08.29`	`morsing`	`Mmm....`
`10:08.36`	`morsing`	`Cope: You mean like Hollyoaks?`
`10:09.03`	`Cope`	`whatever works for you, my firend`
`10:09.52`	`Leeds`	`sex on snowboards?`
`10:11.23`	`Cope`	`16 mins to go on my auction!`
`10:12.34`	`Leeds`	`may be a silly question, but are you buying or selling?`
`10:13.03`	`Cope`	`I am selling my bicycle`
`10:16.26`	`Leeds`	`unless Terry Dolan is a mate of yours, I don't see it...`
`10:17.08`	`Cope`	`hmm?`
`10:17.34`	`Leeds`	`what's the URL? :-0`
`10:18.17`	`Cope`	`for the auction?`
`10:18.27`	`Cope`	`http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&ih=018&item=280001855902&rd=1&sspagename=STRK%3AMESE%3AIT&rd=1`
`10:18.29`	`Leeds`	`uh, yeah`
`10:18.45`	`Cope`	`oh right - yes terry dolan is the man who built the bike`
`10:18.45`	`Leeds`	`ah, so Terry Dolan is a mate of yours`
`10:19.26`	`Cope`	`he's one of the UK's leading bike builders`
`10:19.52`	`Leeds`	`you designed a thousand-pound bike?`
`10:20.29`	`Leeds`	`the exceedingly over-skilled Mr. Cope :-)`
`10:20.42`	`Cope`	`I did`
`10:23.17`	`JAV`	`It looks like a great bike`
`10:23.21`	`Cope`	`I think functional programming seems very interesting`
`10:23.58`	`Leeds`	`I did see something along the lines of a functional-programming-in-python howto go past a few days ago, I think`
`10:24.44`	`Leeds`	`possibly this one: http://www.amk.ca/python/writing/functional`
`10:26.17`	`Leeds`	`Cope: good luck for some last-minute sniping`
`10:27.32`	`Leeds`	`all over`
`10:37.13`	`wethrin`	`morsing: Can't come tonight?`
`10:41.43`	`Cope`	`what's happening tonight?`
`10:41.57`	`Cope`	`JAV: was (is) lovely`
`10:44.35`	`wethrin`	`Cope: Beer!`
`10:44.40`	`wethrin`	`Oh, hang on`
`10:44.44`	`wethrin`	`Not tonight. I meant Friday`
`10:44.55`	`wethrin`	`There's a London.pm thing on tonight, though`
`10:51.13`	`*** join/#gllug LeedsTreo (n=upirc@203.142.121.32)`
`10:51.42`	`LeedsTreo`	`quick question: travel from Stanstead to Heathrow?`
`10:51.56`	`antiphase`	`Aeroplane`
`10:52.14`	`LeedsTreo`	`helpful. next?`
`10:52.37`	`wethrin`	`Train`
`10:52.48`	`wethrin`	`Or do you have objection to using the tubes?`
`10:53.01`	`LeedsTreo`	`in and out? is there an M25 bus which would do it?`
`10:53.08`	`wethrin`	`There may be some inter-airport coach service, but I don't know`
`10:53.27`	`wethrin`	`STN->Liverpool St.->Paddington->LHR`
`10:53.30`	`LeedsTreo`	`tube doesn't do that far out, does it?`
`10:53.40`	`wethrin`	`Tube between Liverpool St. and Paddington`
`10:54.27`	`wethrin`	`LeedsTreo: http://www.londontoolkit.com/travel/heathrow_stansted_transfer.htm`
`10:54.41`	`wethrin`	`�20.50 single; �26 return`
`10:54.54`	`LeedsTreo`	`can't follow the URL and stay on - what is that?`
`10:55.13`	`wethrin`	`information about the Heathrow Stansted Airport Transfer coaches`
`10:55.34`	`LeedsTreo`	`thanks...`
`10:55.37`	`wethrin`	`Anything in particular you want to know?`
`10:55.51`	`LeedsTreo`	`going now`
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`11:00.16`	`Leeds`	`sorry about vanishing - got to my door and had to get out the car`
`11:24.13`	`cpufreak`	`Leeds: there is a coach service from stansted to heathrow`
`11:24.21`	`cpufreak`	`takes just over an hour`
`11:34.11`	`Cope`	`:)`
`11:46.59`	`Cope`	`yay`
`11:47.01`	`Cope`	`hello keithlard_`
`11:47.36`	`Cope`	`I mean "contractor"`
`11:48.07`	`keithlard_`	`:)`
`11:48.35`	`Cope`	`I can't believe someone so unbelievably shit has managed to convince someone to pay him �400 a day`
`11:50.28`	`danip`	`:) Who's that contractor? What's he doing?`
`11:52.39`	`Cope`	`he's sitting beside me`
`11:52.47`	`JAV`	`hard work`
`11:52.55`	`Cope`	`being thick`
`11:53.10`	`Cope`	`it's a fun challenge`
`11:53.19`	`Cope`	`pairing with him on my laptop, and being rude about him`
`11:53.28`	`Cope`	`I feel sick`
`11:53.32`	`Cope`	`too much chocolate!`
`12:03.59`	`keithlard_`	`:)`
`12:12.37`	`Cope`	`keithlard_: don't suppose you have an online subscription to new scientist do youy?`
`12:13.13`	`Cope`	`Helena, being the perfect human being, has a real subscription, and they live in the bathroom, for interesting loo reading.`
`12:13.39`	`morsing`	`keithlard_!`
`12:14.17`	`wethrin`	`keithlard_! You pubbing on Friday?`
`12:18.18`	`*** join/#gllug cbz (i=chriseb@vortex.ukshells.co.uk)`
`12:23.43`	`cbz`	`meh`
`12:24.08`	`morsing`	`cbz!`
`12:24.12`	`keithlard_`	`my dad has`
`12:24.20`	`cbz`	`hello morsin'`
`12:24.23`	`keithlard_`	`but he hasn't got the login details whatsit yet`
`12:24.32`	`keithlard_`	`i'd like to pub on friday! founders arms?`
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`12:45.32`	`Leeds`	`I keep the Economist in my loo`
`12:46.52`	`cbz`	`How unhygenic.`
`12:47.23`	`cbz`	`It'll be covered with little nano-turdlets that are created whenever you flush`
`12:51.37`	`mozrat`	`Hello`
`12:53.28`	`morsing`	`mozrat!`
`12:55.26`	`morsing`	`mozrat?`
`12:56.46`	`cbz`	`morsing`
`12:56.49`	`cbz`	`morsing?`
`12:56.52`	`cbz`	`mozrat`
`12:57.53`	`Leeds`	`Cope: right... I bring him out for special events, but I make him wash well first`
`12:59.31`	`mozrat`	`hello!`
`13:00.10`	`cbz`	`Cold food and reheating stuff in saucepans.`
`13:00.19`	`cbz`	`In any case they;ve been around for a good 30 years`
`13:00.23`	`cbz`	`As a consumer good`
`13:01.53`	`Leeds`	`sure`
`13:01.54`	`mozrat`	`that long?`
`13:01.54`	`Cope`	`microwaves--`
`13:02.05`	`Leeds`	`yeah, something like that - maybe more`
`13:02.53`	`cbz`	`Yes - though they were ubiquitous in badlandia long before they became common over here`
`13:04.27`	`Leeds`	`I wouldn't swear that they're ubiquitous here yet`
`13:04.36`	`Leeds`	`aircon is more important :-)`
`13:04.42`	`Cope`	`heh`
`13:08.46`	`Leeds`	`honestly, around here I'd take aircon over a microwave any day... you can get hot food elsewhere or in other ways, but you can't get a bed unsoaked in sweat elsewhere`
`13:12.05`	`Leeds`	`a thought: is there any suggestion of a second series of The IT Crowd?`
`13:13.06`	`Leeds`	`an answer: the man from wikipedia, he say yes`
`13:13.33`	`cbz`	`Well - you can buy food relatively cheaply there right - and fairly healthy stuff at that`
`13:21.36`	`Leeds`	`could do if I was willing or able to cook using ingredients`
`13:29.13`	`cbz`	`I meant ready made`
`13:33.30`	`Leeds`	`as in takeaway?`
`13:36.25`	`cbz`	`yuh`
`13:37.32`	`Cope`	`yo z00dax`
`13:41.36`	`Cope`	`Leeds: that article really is very good, i think`
`13:42.49`	`Leeds`	`Cope: which article?`
`13:44.27`	`Leeds`	`hmm... how about "Technical Solutions Engineer" at Google in Hong Kong?`
`13:44.49`	`cbz`	`Heh`
`13:44.58`	`cbz`	`Early learning centre.`
`13:45.42`	`cbz`	`wut?`
`13:45.52`	`cbz`	`You are on freenode also - no ?`
`13:45.57`	`Leeds`	`cbz: what article is Cope talking about? and why are you talking about the elc?`
`13:46.30`	`cbz`	`No idea what cope is on about. My comment was comparing google to the early learning centre.`
`13:46.44`	`Leeds`	`ah, why?`
`13:47.35`	`cbz`	`Because from description that's what it seemed. When an engineering manager comes into an interview bouncing on an exercise ball you start to wonder about the mentality that thinks it is acceptable to adopt a studied eccentricity.`
`13:47.57`	`cbz`	`Especially when the HR person then tells you that the marketing people go around the floor on a segway.`
`13:48.14`	`Leeds`	`I suspect things are a lot more sober at Google Hong Kong`
`13:48.27`	`cbz`	`This was Google London.`
`13:49.04`	`Cope`	`Leeds: the functional programming in python one`
`13:49.09`	`Leeds`	`Cope: ah! :-)`
`13:50.38`	`Leeds`	`cbz: anyway, I don't think that sort of culture would work in Hong Kong - I would think it's less stuffy than other places, but Hong Kong is a pretty staid place, in work terms`
`14:23.49`	`morsing`	`:)`
`14:41.06`	`Erwin`	`I spent the last coulpe of days in Geneva, at the Europython. And there WAS no aircon in the hotel room (****, can you believe that). The temperature outside was 30-31C, and that's what the room stayed at throughout the night too`
`14:42.45`	`Cope`	`eek`
`14:42.55`	`Cope`	`Erwin: are you on our python list?`
`14:44.00`	`Erwin`	`Don't think so. I'm on the #python IRC channel, that's all. I don't have time for mailing lists, except RHEL critical bugs :)`
`14:44.19`	`Erwin`	`Wasn't that the Python list that was to be taken down anyway?`
`14:45.06`	`Leeds`	`Erwin: how many bottles of beer have you consumed today?`
`14:46.00`	`Erwin`	`Err, none actually. This last week has been light, I've been keeping drinking down due to the heat :)`
`14:46.27`	`Erwin`	`Does my typing look drunk?`
`14:46.37`	`Cope`	`Erwin: yes, I know you're on #python - I am usually too`
`14:48.20`	`Leeds`	`hmm... supermarket or bed?`
`14:48.46`	`Cope`	`Leeds: depends what you want to do`
`14:48.52`	`Cope`	`I'd prefer to sleep in bed`
`14:49.03`	`Cope`	`I'd prefer to shop in the supermarket`
`14:49.04`	`Leeds`	`you get strange looks when you sleep at the supermarket`
`14:49.13`	`Cope`	`sex would be fun in either`
`14:49.39`	`Leeds`	`not in the supermarkets around here - too cramped and crowded`
`14:49.39`	`morsing`	`Mmm... supermarket`
`14:50.30`	`Leeds`	`specifically this neighbourhood, that is, not Hong Kong in general - there are some very nice supermarkets around`
`14:52.50`	`Leeds`	`mozrat: I think you'll find BSDs are free-er than Linux, in the sense of liberty`
`14:54.16`	`mozrat`	`Leeds: not according to the FSF though`
`14:54.38`	`mozrat`	`they consider the BSD licence a little less free as it doesn't protect freedom, correct?`
`14:54.39`	`Leeds`	`I don't think so`
`14:54.51`	`Leeds`	`it's not less free`
`14:55.21`	`boudiccas`	`mozrat; have you read your second paragraph out loud? No punctuation at all thereby not helping it to make any sense :)`
`14:55.30`	`Leeds`	`it gives you more liberty... their theory is that the whole viral GPL thing is only necessary as long as the world as a whole doesn't do the free thing`
`14:55.51`	`mozrat`	`boudiccas: you are right`
`14:56.15`	`boudiccas`	`mozrat; grammar nazis rule! :)))))))`
`14:57.09`	`morsing`	`boudiccas!`
`14:57.25`	`boudiccas`	`morsing!`
`15:01.17`	`mozrat`	`Leeds: http://www.fsf.org/licensing/essays/bsd.html`
`15:01.31`	`Leeds`	`bed`
`15:01.43`	`boudiccas`	`Leeds; nn`
`15:01.43`	`mozrat`	`Hmm, that isn't the point I wanted to make`
`15:01.48`	`Leeds`	`mozrat: I'll read that in bed - I'm sure it'll help me sleep :-)`
`15:01.58`	`mozrat`	`that concerns a different clause in the BSD licence`
`15:02.04`	`mozrat`	`nn Leeds`
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`15:06.01`	`morsing`	`Leeds!`
`15:09.06`	`morsing`	`mozrat: You're always so nice`
`15:09.22`	`mozrat`	`morsing: why thank you. Why do you say that?`
`15:10.49`	`morsing`	`mozrat: To the new people on the list?`
`15:10.53`	`morsing`	`Yousuf?`
`15:14.13`	`mozrat`	`ah, yes`
`15:14.43`	`mozrat`	`he is probably a nice person - no need to get all "SlayerXP" on his ass`
`15:22.50`	`sabinef72`	`hi !`
`15:24.07`	`boudiccas`	`sabinef72; afternoon :)`
`15:24.22`	`sabinef72`	`coucou boudiccas`
`15:24.35`	`boudiccas`	`what does 'coucou' mean?`
`15:24.42`	`Leeds`	`bon soir`
`15:24.55`	`sabinef72`	`it's a sort of "hi"`
`15:25.01`	`mozrat`	`sabinef72!`
`15:25.07`	`sabinef72`	`mozrat: !!!!!!!!!!`
`15:25.08`	`boudiccas`	`oh!`
`15:27.08`	`morsing`	`sabinef72`
`15:27.09`	`morsing`	`!`
`15:27.19`	`mozrat`	`sabinef72: how is Spain.. is is nice there?`
`15:27.24`	`mozrat`	`sabinef72 is in Spain everyone`
`15:27.31`	`morsing`	`Mmm... Spain`
`15:27.41`	`sabinef72`	`monday will come up soon !`
`15:27.42`	`JAV`	`mmmm... Spain`
`15:27.58`	`JAV`	`wait a moment, I'm in Spain!`
`15:28.18`	`sabinef72`	`JAV: I'll be there tuesday afternoon for 15 days`
`15:28.49`	`JAV`	`far from here iirc`
`15:29.14`	`sabinef72`	`hu hu santander ? santillana del mar ?`
`15:29.48`	`sabinef72`	`mozrat: !`
`15:30.15`	`sabinef72`	`Are you again drunk ?`
`15:30.21`	`mozrat`	`hic`
`15:30.22`	`mozrat`	`no`
`15:30.34`	`mozrat`	`what are you suggesting?`
`15:30.56`	`sabinef72`	`mozrat: I never told you that I'm in spain now !`
`15:32.13`	`mozrat`	`But you went offline...`
`15:32.27`	`mozrat`	`I assumed you had rushed to Spain and then came back on IRC`
`15:32.27`	`sabinef72`	`when ?`
`15:32.30`	`mozrat`	`today`
`15:32.38`	`sabinef72`	`noooo`
`15:32.49`	`sabinef72`	`ahh perhaps did you make a mistake with Sabinette`
`15:33.01`	`sabinef72`	`Sabinette is when I'm on the mac in my kitchen`
`15:33.18`	`mozrat`	`ahh, maybe I have been drinking without knowing it...`
`15:33.28`	`sabinef72`	`:-))))))`
`15:33.46`	`sabinef72`	`I'll go in Spain monday with my car`
`15:33.56`	`cpufreak`	`where abouts in spain?`
`15:33.57`	`sabinef72`	`and I'll be in Roses tuesday afternoon`
`15:34.20`	`sabinef72`	`and it will be real vacations without computer !`
`15:34.28`	`sabinef72`	`except my pda`
`15:35.39`	`Leeds`	`roses?`
`15:35.54`	`morsing`	`Roses?`
`15:35.57`	`sabinef72`	`yes Roses is near Barcelone`
`15:36.19`	`morsing`	`With Minesh, the fat bastard`
`15:38.26`	`Cope`	`minesh?`
`15:39.44`	`morsing`	`Cope: Vegetarian guy at Camelot. He was very round and his manager always called him "Minesh you fat bastard"`
`15:40.05`	`Cope`	`:D`
`15:40.49`	`Erwin`	`Just how many vegetables would one need to eat to stay overweight?`
`15:41.07`	`Cope`	`morsing: you know de la rue are majority shareholders in camelot?`
`15:45.58`	`morsing`	`Cope: Yes. Who interviewed you?`
`15:46.08`	`morsing`	`Cope: David is in deep shit!`
`15:46.43`	`morsing`	`Erwin: Well, probably a lot ut somehow the snack machine was empty everytime Minesh had passed it!`
`15:47.36`	`morsing`	`Why does this not work?`
`15:47.37`	`morsing`	`find . -name "*ear" -ctime 30`
`15:48.24`	`Erwin`	`ctime is "inode change time"`
`15:48.32`	`Erwin`	`not "creation time" if that's what you hope for`
`15:49.13`	`Erwin`	`plus, -ctime 30 would give you things that had their inode changed exactly 30 days ago; -30 / +30 for less or more than 30 are more usual`
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`15:49.54`	`morsing`	`phearless!`
`15:50.03`	`phearless`	`back from hell`
`15:50.09`	`phearless`	`without internet at home now`
`15:50.21`	`phearless`	`but i found a job`
`15:50.24`	`morsing`	`Erwin: +30 doewn't work either`
`15:50.32`	`morsing`	`phearless: Congrats`
`15:50.46`	`phearless`	`i a mthe linux sysadmin of FlexTrade(.com)`
`15:51.48`	`phearless`	`one box here is really shitty`
`15:51.59`	`phearless`	`after ~3hours, impossible to login`
`15:52.08`	`phearless`	`it is a RHEL3`
`15:52.12`	`phearless`	`i never seen that`
`15:52.15`	`morsing`	`Check it!`
`15:52.27`	`phearless`	`i am on it via ssh`
`15:52.28`	`Erwin`	`morsing: Well, as I said: ctime is inode change time. do you have files that ls -lac shows as having their inode changed 30+ days ago?`
`16:02.04`	`wethrin`	`phearless: Congrats! Beer's on you, then!`
`16:03.12`	`morsing`	`wethrin: I don't think you'll get awaya with that!`
`16:04.25`	`wethrin`	`Bah`
`16:04.30`	`phearless`	`wethrin: yes it is cool`
`16:04.41`	`phearless`	`and for the CV, financial companies are good`
`16:04.48`	`wethrin`	`Maybe :)`
`16:04.52`	`Leeds`	`it's after midnight here... it's 7/7/2006... a year ago, some buggers blew up a bunch of people on the Tube :-(`
`16:04.53`	`phearless`	`i am in the 31337 City`
`16:04.58`	`Leeds`	`zzzzzz`
`16:05.06`	`phearless`	`with smart asses everywhere`
`16:05.32`	`wethrin`	`Oh. and I shall be drinking in London on the one-year anniversary`
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`16:10.04`	`morsing`	`goltor!`
`16:11.22`	`goltor`	`yes boss?`
`16:15.51`	`z00dax`	`Cope: hi`
`16:16.03`	`wethrin`	`z00dax! Coming to the pub tomorrow?`
`16:16.12`	`Cope`	`z00dax: hi`
`16:16.23`	`z00dax`	`wethrin: whats the event / occasion?`
`16:16.36`	`wethrin`	`z00dax: It's a Friday, I'll be in London, and will want beer`
`16:16.55`	`wethrin`	`And, if you like, a 1-year commemoration of the Tube bombings`
`16:17.05`	`z00dax`	`oohh... thats a worthy cause. where do you propose the meetup happens ?`
`16:17.14`	`wethrin`	`RTF Social List :)`
`16:17.18`	`wethrin`	`Founders Arms`
`16:17.21`	`goltor`	`tube bombings/my arrival in londn :S`
`16:17.32`	`z00dax`	`Founders Arms at the Tate Modern ?`
`16:17.33`	`wethrin`	`goltor: So we'll see you at the pub?`
`16:17.36`	`wethrin`	`z00dax: Ayup`
`16:17.41`	`z00dax`	`I'll be there !`
`16:17.42`	`wethrin`	`Opposite Blackfriars`
`16:17.44`	`wethrin`	`yay!`
`16:17.55`	`wethrin`	`I may be there early to get a table`
`16:17.57`	`goltor`	`quite possibly`
`16:17.58`	`wethrin`	`outside`
`16:18.06`	`goltor`	`you may see me sleeping in a corner`
`16:18.13`	`goltor`	`ohh`
`16:18.28`	`goltor`	`any corners outside?`
`16:18.32`	`z00dax`	`dont think I'll get there anywhere near early, but i'll get there.... the eating joint around the corner is quite nice too`
`16:18.46`	`z00dax`	`cant for the life of me remember what its called... just across the road from the Globe`
`16:19.21`	`wethrin`	`goltor: There's a bridge close by`
`16:19.30`	`wethrin`	`z00dax: Vinopolis? :)`
`16:19.35`	`goltor`	`cool`
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`16:20.37`	`z00dax`	`wethrin: hmmm... maybe`
`16:21.06`	`IAmAI`	`Hi`
`16:21.57`	`goltor`	`i just ate a whole block of bournville chocolate`
`16:22.09`	`goltor`	`anyone wanna place bets on me spewing in 1/2 hour?`
`16:22.19`	`z00dax`	`IAmAI: hi`
`16:22.26`	`cpufreak`	`I would`
`16:22.37`	`cpufreak`	`but work's policy forbids me from betting after 11:30`
`16:22.42`	`cpufreak`	`:(`
`16:22.52`	`wethrin`	`Right. Time to go home, I think`
`16:22.56`	`wethrin`	`See some people tomorrow evening`
`16:23.18`	`IAmAI`	`See ya`
`16:24.50`	`z00dax`	`wethrin: take it easy`
`16:25.02`	`goltor`	`anyone going tonight?`
`16:25.32`	`z00dax`	`where to ?`
`16:25.56`	`goltor`	`to australia to see the world cup cane toad finals`
`16:37.30`	`mozrat`	`Cope, been fired? :(`
`16:38.45`	`morsing`	`Cope: Long weeekend?`
`17:19.06`	`Cope`	`mozrat: last day tomorrow`
`17:19.21`	`Cope`	`z00dax: ping`
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`17:23.49`	`George_`	`DEATH`
`17:27.00`	`morsing`	`Cope: Long weeekend?!`
`17:27.05`	`morsing`	`Aaraghhdsa!`
`17:28.17`	`Cope`	`morsing: no`
`17:28.26`	`Cope`	`brb`
`17:30.12`	`morsing`	`Home time!`
`17:30.14`	`morsing`	`Finally`
`17:40.24`	`z00dax`	`Cope: pong`
`17:41.09`	`mozrat`	`Cope, congrats`
`17:41.22`	`z00dax`	`Cope: yay! congrats!`
`17:42.17`	`mozrat`	`Cope, more time with Wm on the horizon?`
`17:42.24`	`Cope`	`maybe`
`17:43.46`	`mozrat`	`bbl`
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`19:25.32`	`hali`	`evening`
`19:26.44`	`boudiccas`	`hali; hiya`
`19:26.59`	`boudiccas`	`you joined our centos f@h team yet? :)`
`19:27.11`	`hali`	`oh, no.. i completly forgot`
`19:27.27`	`boudiccas`	`ah, i've just reminded you :))))`
`19:27.42`	`hali`	`will do when i have moved and redone my "network" :)`
`19:27.43`	`SlayerXP`	`flogging (at) home ?`
`19:28.01`	`boudiccas`	`SlayerXP; close, but no cigar :)`
`19:28.15`	`boudiccas`	`folding at home`
`19:29.58`	`hali`	`zfj for us vi nerds :)`
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`19:32.28`	`hali`	`okay, no vi nerds in here`
`19:34.28`	`boudiccas`	`guess we must all be emacians then :)))`
`19:34.51`	`hali`	`looks like it`
`19:35.17`	`boudiccas`	`ah well, back to me knitting`
`19:35.30`	`hali`	`knitting.. how cute`
`19:35.43`	`boudiccas`	`its experiencing a revival atm`
`19:39.11`	`goblimey`	`you seen kaffe fassetts knitting boudiccas ?`
`19:40.03`	`boudiccas`	`goblimey; yes, gorgeous :)`
`19:40.22`	`boudiccas`	`great use of lcolur :)`
`19:40.26`	`boudiccas`	`*colour`
`19:40.38`	`goblimey`	`i thought knitting was boring till i happened across an exhibition of his work`
`19:40.52`	`goblimey`	`i agree , great eye for hies`
`19:40.58`	`goblimey`	`hies= hues`
`19:42.21`	`George`	`:'(`
`19:42.27`	`George`	`mozrat: OIY`
`19:42.37`	`George`	`mozrat: wtf does "Bikini Black Special" mean?`
`19:43.09`	`boudiccas`	`sounds like a drink!`
`19:43.20`	`boudiccas`	`a cocktail type drink`
`19:43.23`	`George`	`boudiccas: it's the terror state alert in the british isles from what I can tell`
`19:43.31`	`George`	`http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BIKINI_state`
`19:43.33`	`George`	`aha`
`19:43.56`	`boudiccas`	`ah, i see`
`19:44.01`	`George`	`the camp we're staying at has a massive sign at the gate saying "BIKINI BLACK SPECIAL" on it`
`19:44.11`	`boudiccas`	`ask them what it means`
`19:44.37`	`goltor`	`camp?`
`19:44.43`	`boudiccas`	`army camp`
`19:44.49`	`George`	`goltor: military base`
`19:45.04`	`boudiccas`	`George; army or marines?`
`19:45.39`	`George`	`boudiccas: we're living in army barracks, and shooting on a royal marines range`
`19:45.58`	`boudiccas`	`beauty of being in the ccf :)`
`19:46.28`	`George`	`I'm not in the CCF`
`19:46.47`	`boudiccas`	`you're not! thought you were. acf then?`
`19:46.47`	`George`	`well, officially I am, but I couldn't really care less`
`19:46.51`	`George`	`I just shoot and do nothing else`
`19:47.06`	`boudiccas`	`no drill! lucky beggar`
`19:47.11`	`George`	`er, 8"`
`19:47.21`	`hali`	`forgive a invading swede, whats ccf and acf?`
`19:47.25`	`hali`	`an*`
`19:47.37`	`hali`	`like those pretend army things?`
`19:47.38`	`George`	`Combined Cadet Force`
`19:47.39`	`boudiccas`	`combined cadet force & army cadet force`
`19:47.40`	`George`	`dunno about ACF`
`19:47.48`	`hali`	`ah... ok`
`19:54.23`	`cpufreak`	`don't forget the ATC`
`19:54.31`	`hali`	`and the ATF`
`19:55.02`	`cpufreak`	`(air training cadets, which i was a memberof for a brief while about 10 years ao)`
`19:55.05`	`cpufreak`	`ago`
`19:55.56`	`George`	`weirdos`
`19:56.10`	`cpufreak`	`speak foryourslef`
`19:56.14`	`cpufreak`	`self`
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`20:22.05`	`morsing`	`knitter!`
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`20:22.47`	`knitter`	`morsing!`
`20:26.22`	`knitter`	`quiet in here tonight`
`20:28.46`	`hali`	`its the weather`
`20:29.03`	`hali`	`people are in power save mode`
`20:29.32`	`hali`	`hm, can't make up my mind weither to order this digital camera or not`
`20:29.55`	`knitter`	`hali: you joined the centos f@h team yet [nag, nag :)`
`20:30.40`	`hali`	`knitter: im affraid i have been to busy the last 20 minutes to do so :)`
`20:30.46`	`knitter`	`lol`
`20:31.11`	`knitter`	`couldn't resist the little nag through irssi :)`
`20:31.21`	`hali`	`i have a perfect setup at work that could crunsh some numbers for a few weeks... :P`
`20:31.21`	`knitter`	`i'm only teasing you :)`
`20:31.39`	`knitter`	`f@h is good for burning in/testing machines`
`20:31.56`	`hali`	`6 dual cpu blade servers idle'ing at the moment ...`
`20:32.15`	`knitter`	`oooh, quick, put them to good use with fah`
`20:32.20`	`hali`	`i'll try to get some time to install the fah client tomorrow`
`20:32.27`	`knitter`	`ty :)`
`20:32.36`	`knitter`	`you want the url again?`
`20:32.54`	`hali`	`i do know how to google you know ;)`
`20:32.56`	`knitter`	`btw, do you know much about irssi?`
`20:33.14`	`hali`	`i've been a happy irssi user for a few years.. but i don't know much about the fancy features`
`20:33.49`	`boudiccas`	`because i have 2 royal blue bars, one at the top, the other at the bottom. how do i change their colours to grey?`
`20:34.15`	`boudiccas`	`they're the status bars i think`
`20:35.27`	`Erwin`	`boudiccas: look in ~/.irssi/default.theme`
`20:35.28`	`hali`	`<PROTECTED>`
`20:36.05`	`boudiccas`	`there is no default theme there. just a config file and nowt else`
`20:36.29`	`Erwin`	`Hmm, maybe try /save ?`
`20:37.34`	`boudiccas`	`hali; thanks, that worked :)`
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`20:40.01`	`knitter`	`thats better`
`20:40.48`	`knitter`	`back to my knitting then :)`
`20:42.46`	`Erwin`	`is it a black & white sweater?`
`20:44.09`	`knitter`	`Erwin: no, its a teddies bears arm :) I'm making bears for christmas this year for all the family`
`20:44.45`	`hali`	`nice, any super ted bears?`
`20:45.04`	`boudiccas`	`no, traditional type bears`
`20:46.35`	`knitter`	`jointed arms and legs with sorrowful eyes and expressions :)`
`20:48.51`	`knitter`	`^join undernet`
`20:49.58`	`hali`	`you can have several networks open in irssi`
`20:50.14`	`boudiccas`	`hali; how?`
`20:51.24`	`hali`	`<PROTECTED>`
`20:53.02`	`boudiccas`	`hali; i'll play with it another evening, i'm tired atm`
`20:53.11`	`boudiccas`	`thanks anyway`
`20:53.17`	`hali`	`i've defined all (most) the channels to join as well.. so when i connect to a network it joins the chans`
`21:04.37`	`hali`	`i like being able to detach and attach to my irc session from anywhere`
`21:06.32`	`boudiccas`	`i like xchat too, but i also want to be able to use a cli one, which means irssi`
`21:07.18`	`goltor`	`yeah i've got all the bulky shite like x and kde so might as well`
`21:07.50`	`boudiccas`	`i chase knowledge :) a desire to know how else to do it :)`
`21:08.30`	`goltor`	`i'm getting old and like when it works :)`
`21:08.48`	`goltor`	`still have to make it that way though`
`21:08.52`	`boudiccas`	`goltor; thats why i'm using centos :)`
`21:09.25`	`boudiccas`	`stability in OS and stable apps`
`21:11.01`	`hali`	`but centos is my preferred flavor of linux`
`21:11.20`	`boudiccas`	`i know nowt about solaris so can't comment`
`21:11.40`	`hali`	`solaris is quite nice these days.. even as a desktop...`
`21:11.46`	`goltor`	`Linux fizgorgo 2.6.14-hardened-r7 #1 Sat May 6 00:43:45 BST 2006 i686 AMD Athlon(tm) XP GNU/Linux`
`21:11.58`	`hali`	`but it is kind of different the first few weeks you use it`
`21:12.36`	`hali`	`everything in solaris is built to scale.. it's almost as much work to configre one desktop as it is to configure a server and 10 solaris clients..`
`21:13.32`	`boudiccas`	`hali; what do you mean 'built to scale'?`
`21:14.16`	`hali`	`like for your home directory.. solaris wants to mount it from a server.. so you need to create a automounter loopback entry... even for a local machine...`
`21:14.24`	`hali`	`it's "ment" to be mounted from a server...`
`21:15.39`	`hali`	`so if you have been working on a solaris desktop for a few months its not that difficult take care of solaris servers..`
`21:15.48`	`hali`	`the diffence in linux is much bigger...`
`21:15.51`	`hali`	`lots of shortcuts in linux`
`21:16.00`	`hali`	`for good and bad`
`21:43.17`	`Erwin`	`Odd how you listen to a CD once or twice, hate it, then listen to it months later and suddenly like it`
`22:04.13`	`sabinef72`	`good night all`
`22:04.17`	`sabinef72`	`see you tomorrow`
`22:07.24`	`hali`	`good night`
`22:17.34`	`TimMagic`	`hey everybody!`
`22:17.38`	`TimMagic`	`the magic is back!`
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`22:36.52`	`George`	`:'(`

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