| 02:56.01 | Leeds | morning all... and I hope no-one is awake |
| 03:26.01 | arika-chan | morning... |
| 03:27.34 | Leeds | argh, why can't people do non-ascii mails properly? |
| 03:28.45 | Leeds | if you say your charset is ascii, you can't use 8-bit characters - if you want to use 8-bit characters, just set a charset... it's not that hard |
| 03:29.00 | Leeds | and if you want to use 8-bit characters in headers, there is a simple-ish RFC telling you how to |
| 03:30.10 | arika-chan | heh |
| 03:30.33 | arika-chan | the reason I'm up so late is because I'm exicted about a new programming technique I just found out about and have been test driving it :) |
| 03:31.05 | Leeds | what technique is that then? |
| 03:32.33 | arika-chan | test driven development |
| 03:33.02 | arika-chan | ie write a small unit test, watch it fail, hack up the program so that it passes, then refactor your new functionality so that it works nicely :) |
| 03:33.06 | arika-chan | repeat a lot |
| 03:33.42 | Leeds | that tends to be how I code, except that I don't use formal unit tests, just manual ones |
| 03:35.08 | arika-chan | it's amazing how much I've got back into coding since I started using that technique |
| 03:35.47 | Leeds | the immediate feedback is very gratifying |
| 03:43.02 | Leeds | hmm... must not waste nice day on supposed-to-be-rainy long weekend... |
| 03:48.52 | arika-chan | hehe |
| 06:42.43 | morsing | ping Leeds |
| 06:43.15 | morsing | ibot wake Leeds |
| 06:43.17 | ibot | Leeds: GOOD MORNING!!! |
| 07:27.48 | morsing | ~seen cope |
| 07:27.53 | ibot | cope is currently on #debian (2d 23h 36m 38s). Has said a total of 11 messages. Is idling for 2d 17h 25m 10s, last said: ':)'. |
| 07:33.08 | morsing | mozrat? |
| 07:34.13 | mozrat | yep |
| 07:34.44 | morsing | Can I send you a self portrait from my phone for the IRC page? |
| 07:34.53 | morsing | Or is that not compatible? |
| 07:35.25 | mozrat | should be fine |
| 07:36.18 | morsing | Where do I send it to? Your phone? Or an emal address? |
| 07:36.27 | morsing | s/emal/email/ |
| 07:36.35 | mozrat | email please |
| 07:36.42 | mozrat | I don't have a whizzy phone |
| 07:36.47 | mozrat | mozrat@gmail.com |
| 07:36.53 | mozrat | is this from teh Treo? |
| 07:38.05 | morsing | Yes |
| 07:38.18 | morsing | Don't quite know how to send the photos though... |
| 07:38.26 | morsing | Leeds? |
| 07:42.49 | George | it's mozrat! |
| 07:42.59 | George | mozrat: what do you mean you don't have a whizzy phone? |
| 07:42.59 | George | liar. |
| 07:43.33 | mozrat | George: No camera, no speakerphone, no customisable ringtones |
| 07:43.42 | George | mozrat: and yet it has a qwerty keyboard. |
| 07:43.50 | mozrat | it does |
| 07:43.54 | George | and ssh |
| 07:44.24 | mozrat | as a mobile mail platform it meets my bare minimum requirements, as a phone... not even close |
| 07:44.24 | George | and you're UGLY! :P |
| 07:44.33 | mozrat | I am |
| 07:44.54 | George | s/favce/face |
| 07:52.48 | morsing | George: Does my phone always have the same IP address? |
| 07:54.24 | morsing | George? |
| 07:54.39 | morsing | LEEEDS! |
| 07:55.40 | morsing | Ahh... It doesn't. Damn. |
| 07:59.02 | George | morsing: no idea |
| 08:05.08 | morsing | Hmm... I need to setup ASMTP and IMAPS on the server *and* phone to get this working safely |
| 08:05.17 | morsing | Crap |
| 08:05.25 | morsing | LEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEDS!!! |
| 08:07.01 | morsing | Hmm... It actually appears that it is doing auth over IMAP before sending to SMTP |
| 08:07.27 | morsing | WOO I succesfully sent an email to my mail server :) |
| 08:16.45 | mozrat | I got the mail morsing |
| 08:16.48 | mozrat | :-) |
| 08:20.27 | mozrat | you are on the page now |
| 08:47.02 | Leeds | hello |
| 08:47.34 | Leeds | I just got in from... being not in |
| 08:48.19 | morsing | Leeds: How do you send mail from your Treo? |
| 08:48.24 | Leeds | morsing: your network setup is, of course, completely at the mercy of your ISP - i.e. your phone network - it's nothing to do with the phone |
| 08:48.34 | morsing | ISP? |
| 08:48.44 | Leeds | yes, your internet service provider |
| 08:48.54 | morsing | I haven't got one? |
| 08:48.57 | Leeds | in my case, I get a non-static fully-routed IP |
| 08:49.14 | Leeds | is someone providing you with internet service? |
| 08:49.49 | Leeds | I use a third-party shareware mail app |
| 08:50.02 | morsing | But you use IMAP from the phone? |
| 08:50.09 | morsing | and SMTP |
| 08:50.15 | Leeds | yes, of course |
| 08:50.24 | Leeds | to my own server - exim and dovecot |
| 08:50.52 | morsing | Ok, I want to use my own mail server with IMAPS which VersaMail doesn't support |
| 08:51.06 | Leeds | I don't use versamail - I use chatter email |
| 08:51.23 | morsing | And your SMTP server relays? |
| 08:51.39 | morsing | Does it support ASMTP? |
| 08:52.11 | Leeds | what is asmtp? I use smtp-auth |
| 08:52.18 | morsing | Yup - ASMTP |
| 08:52.35 | morsing | Or do you mean SMTP-with_IMAP-auth? |
| 08:52.40 | Leeds | and for the record, this afternoon, I walked to just 'round the corner from the big tower in the middle of http://www.flickr.com/photos/jessewarren/137303412/ - took about 90 minutes to get there |
| 08:52.45 | Leeds | no, I mean smtp-auth |
| 08:52.53 | morsing | So, ASMTP |
| 08:53.06 | Leeds | in the sense of connecting to port 25, authenticating, then relaying through it |
| 08:53.10 | morsing | Yes |
| 08:53.25 | morsing | Chatter email it is then! |
| 08:53.39 | Leeds | I have also had a minor falling-out with my phone this afternoon... |
| 08:54.41 | Leeds | managed to fill up the memory taking photos and video of a lion dance performance I just happened to come across... got into a reboot loop because it was out of memory, managed to boot into 'safe mode' and move the offending video/photos to SD, then it crashed and seems to have trashed the SD card :-( |
| 08:56.09 | morsing | Leeds: Do I need Windows to install software on it? |
| 08:57.15 | Leeds | do you honestly think I would recommend a peripheral which required Windows? of course you don't |
| 08:57.41 | Leeds | usb-serial and visor kernel modules, pilot-link user-space tools |
| 08:57.58 | Leeds | in particular, pilot-xfer to install, sync, backup, etc. files |
| 09:01.13 | Leeds | note the one significant catch - the USB device doesn't exist until you hit the hotsync button |
| 09:01.36 | Leeds | oh, and I found it was very unreliable through a cheap hub and much more reliable plugged in directly |
| 09:10.45 | mozrat | just found a lovely lost doggy |
| 09:11.02 | mozrat | taking it to the police station to see if it is chipped |
| 09:13.27 | Leeds | you can modify dogs to let them play copied games? |
| 09:13.48 | mozrat | I could try - it might be messy |
| 09:15.08 | morsing | Mmm... Solder |
| 09:23.31 | Leeds | hmm BT bought Dabs? |
| 09:28.10 | morsing | debug1: ssh_exchange_identification: sshd re-exec requires execution with an absolute path |
| 09:28.19 | morsing | What is it trying to tell me? |
| 09:29.33 | morsing | Leeds? |
| 09:29.57 | Leeds | it's probably telling you that you originally ran it as ./sshd rather than /usr/sbin/sshd, so it doesn't know where to find itself |
| 09:30.06 | Leeds | that's my guess |
| 09:31.07 | morsing | It starts from inetd as |
| 09:31.08 | morsing | ssh stream tcp nowait root /usr/local/sbin/sshd -i |
| 09:31.13 | morsing | ? |
| 09:32.40 | morsing | Leeds? |
| 09:33.02 | Leeds | you really run it from inetd? |
| 09:34.06 | morsing | Yes |
| 09:35.00 | Leeds | strange |
| 09:35.10 | morsing | No it's not |
| 09:38.33 | Leeds | from the sshd man page: "sshd is normally not run from inetd..." |
| 09:39.19 | morsing | Not normally is not the same as strange. On AIX it's always run from inetd and AIX is normal |
| 09:43.41 | morsing | Leeds: How you written down instruction on howto use the Treo with Linux? |
| 09:45.28 | morsing | Leeds: Which phonenumber is your Treo on? |
| 09:46.20 | z00dax | man, plus.net / bt /adsl-max..... suckage++ |
| 09:46.34 | z00dax | 18 signal loss's in 21 hours |
| 09:46.53 | z00dax | each one long enough to kill ssh and throw lftp into a re-get mode :( |
| 09:46.58 | Leeds | I have no written instructions - pilot-link is well documented |
| 09:47.04 | z00dax | howse everyone elses weekend getting along ? |
| 09:47.12 | Leeds | morsing: my HK number |
| 09:48.59 | George | z00dax: going to yell? |
| 09:49.19 | z00dax | George: yea |
| 09:49.40 | George | how loudly? |
| 09:50.25 | z00dax | loud enough |
| 09:50.40 | George | :) |
| 09:58.26 | morsing | emil:/etc/dovecot# apt-cache search ^pilot-link |
| 09:58.27 | morsing | pilot-link - Tools to communicate with a PalmOS PDA |
| 09:58.28 | morsing | :) |
| 10:00.57 | Leeds | I told you that almost an hour ago... |
| 10:01.11 | George | morsing: did you buy a treo? |
| 10:04.27 | morsing | Yes |
| 10:04.34 | George | how uch? |
| 10:04.35 | morsing | Leeds: No you didn't |
| 10:04.41 | George | much |
| 10:04.42 | morsing | 41 pounds |
| 10:04.45 | morsing | GBP |
| 10:05.03 | George | where from?? |
| 10:05.08 | morsing | Expansys |
| 10:05.18 | George | is it the 650? |
| 10:05.21 | morsing | Yes |
| 10:05.32 | George | wtf |
| 10:05.34 | George | how? |
| 10:05.36 | morsing | ? |
| 10:05.40 | morsing | Huh? |
| 10:06.02 | George | a 650 for 41 quid seems a bit on the cheap side |
| 10:06.14 | morsing | http://www.expansys.com/product.asp?code=122383 |
| 10:06.20 | Leeds | morsing: I told you to use pilot-link... I don't really care that you're unable to install it yourself and depend on someone to do it for you |
| 10:06.34 | George | oh, monthly contract |
| 10:06.38 | morsing | Leeds: thanks! |
| 10:07.17 | George | why does the treo 700 run windows?? |
| 10:07.58 | Erwin | There's a palm version coming too supposedly |
| 10:08.02 | Leeds | morsing - I am very uninterested in people's reliance on packaging systems |
| 10:08.13 | Erwin | But apparently there are some crazy people who'd rather want to run Windows Mobile & the software it gives you |
| 10:08.25 | Leeds | Erwin: 700p is due out next month, cmda only, and is not likely to appear in a gsm form |
| 10:08.38 | Leeds | the w is only there to get them into the windows-only corporate market |
| 10:11.04 | Erwin | Hmm, so Chatter Email supports that IDLE IMAP thing so you can just stay connected to your mail server? |
| 10:11.18 | Leeds | yup |
| 10:11.40 | Erwin | VersaEmail is a bit annoying when it gets a timeout, it just sits there you cannot even cancel or turn off the phone |
| 10:12.46 | Leeds | never really used it... |
| 10:14.21 | Erwin | Hmm, before I enable IMAPS on my server, I need to upgrade to something more secure.. currently we run uw-imap (ouch) which RHEL disowned in the latest version |
| 10:14.50 | Leeds | dovecot works for me... |
| 10:15.25 | Erwin | Right, except it seemed the upgrade was a 37-step process |
| 10:15.29 | murb | Erwin: dovecot |
| 10:15.35 | murb | where version >= 1 |
| 10:15.50 | murb | Erwin: although the upgrade from uw can be a pain anyway due to user habits |
| 10:15.59 | murb | i combined the upgrade with migration to maildir though. |
| 10:16.29 | murb | before uwimap would causes load average > 6 at busy times now the machine doesn't go past .5 |
| 10:16.49 | murb | and got downgraded from a pIII 900 -> pII 350 due to hardware failure. |
| 10:17.43 | Erwin | What's with version >= 1? RHEL4 has 0.99.11.-2 |
| 10:18.20 | murb | Erwin: technically i think they are beta but so are the old 0.99 ones and now >= 1 is recommended |
| 10:18.25 | murb | i'll just check waht i'm running. |
| 10:19.26 | murb | 1.0.beta7 |
| 10:19.40 | murb | but only with maildir |
| 10:20.06 | murb | i stopped using uw about a year after the previous maildir patch maintainer gave up. |
| 10:20.34 | George | morsing: how good is the treo 650? |
| 10:20.38 | Erwin | Well, I only have 30 users or so, so I don't care about maildir vs mailbox. I just want a secure and maintained server |
| 10:20.40 | George | I might buy one in a few months |
| 10:20.44 | George | exchange my ipaq for it |
| 10:20.50 | George | or sell it |
| 10:20.51 | George | or something |
| 10:21.08 | Erwin | I've had mine for a couple of weeks, and it's good. Especially if I can get push email via the other email program :) |
| 10:21.18 | George | what's the data capability like? |
| 10:21.24 | George | is it a 3g phone? |
| 10:21.27 | Erwin | The keyboard is handy for entering things compared to the Graffiti on the Palm Pilot. |
| 10:21.47 | Erwin | It supposedly has EDGE, though I'm not sure if I can use the Orange EDGE network on PAYG |
| 10:21.50 | George | keyboards are good |
| 10:21.56 | z00dax | ok, i am off - be back later in the evening |
| 10:22.07 | George | cya z00dax |
| 10:22.21 | Erwin | The phone is for you if you've ever owned a Palm Pilot before, I think. Not if you just want a fancy phone with the latest technology. It's more than 1 year old. |
| 10:22.49 | Erwin | There are like 3-4 comparable 3G phones with a keyboard coming out soon, like the Motorola Q |
| 10:22.53 | George | I want a phone with a good screen, good input capabilities and good software support |
| 10:23.17 | George | and also decent web browser, ssh client |
| 10:23.21 | George | irc client |
| 10:23.37 | Erwin | Well, the Treo650 has that, as it lets you use all the Palm software |
| 10:23.49 | Erwin | I'm not sure if the Palm market is larger than the Windows Mobile one |
| 10:23.51 | George | how good is the screen? |
| 10:23.58 | George | I fucking hate windows mobile |
| 10:24.04 | Erwin | 320x320. Looks good to me. |
| 10:24.16 | George | Erwin: how good is it in bright light? |
| 10:24.32 | George | that's the real killer on most phones |
| 10:24.46 | George | screen res is higher than my iPaq |
| 10:25.33 | Erwin | I don't know, there's no bright light in London |
| 10:26.39 | George | Erwin: is it one of those screens with a sort of mirror behind the LCD to reflect sunlight back and make the screen readable? |
| 10:28.06 | Erwin | I don't think there's anything special there. I tried to test this on my balcony, but there's hardly any sun out. I don't recall struggling to read stuff from it, but there hasn't really been sunny yet |
| 10:28.26 | George | hrmm |
| 10:28.30 | George | it's a touch screen phone isn't it? |
| 10:28.46 | Erwin | Yep. It is a Palm Pilot with a phone and keyboard and cursor |
| 10:28.54 | George | cursor? |
| 10:29.05 | Erwin | Well, you know, 4 arrow keys and a button |
| 10:29.10 | George | d-pad :P |
| 10:29.26 | Erwin | Sometimes it's easier to use the keys to move around, sometimes I nail-click the screen |
| 10:29.43 | George | can it be used as a modem for your computer? |
| 10:29.58 | Erwin | You can make the screen turn off when you make a call, otherwise you can trigger it by touching the screen with your ear |
| 10:30.11 | George | haha |
| 10:30.21 | Erwin | Yeah, though I've never tried using it as a modem. I could never get the Nokia 7610 to work as a modem properly, via Bluetooth |
| 10:30.41 | George | my t610 works perfectly |
| 10:31.06 | Erwin | The only minus is the small 640x480 camera.. which is a shame because the screen is great for displaying the pictures you take with it |
| 10:31.22 | George | I really couldn't care about cameras on phones |
| 10:31.32 | Erwin | The pictures on the treo look better on the treo, than the picutre on my nokia (which had a 1mpix camera) did on the nokia |
| 10:31.47 | George | heh |
| 10:31.57 | Erwin | It's very handy to be able to take a photo at any time |
| 10:32.03 | George | I could probably sell my iPaq on ebay for about 100 pounds |
| 10:32.51 | Erwin | Well, looks like uw-imap to dovecot migration is easy enough, odd, I thought I saw a 37-step guide on a redhat site |
| 11:01.06 | George | Erwin: is the treo 3g? |
| 11:02.20 | Erwin | No. EDGE. |
| 11:04.16 | George | what's EDGE? |
| 11:04.48 | murb | Erwin: my migration was only a few users, maybe 20 but some had rather large mailboxes |
| 11:05.18 | Erwin | EDGE is GSM 2.5, which should give you about 3 x GPRS speed. Supposedly Ornage has a network in UK, but I have no idea how to see on the Treo whether EDGE is on or off |
| 11:05.19 | murb | although index mboxes would also help with that. |
| 11:05.51 | murb | anyone played with channelbonding and gsm data? |
| 11:06.15 | George | how do you use a usb cd drive in linux? |
| 11:06.31 | George | oh wait |
| 11:06.34 | George | it's come up as a scsi device |
| 11:20.23 | Leeds | start to move slowly, very slowly... let the rhythm be your guiding light |
| 12:13.10 | JAV | hello |
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| 13:50.11 | joyrom | hello to all |
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| 14:28.28 | George | House beat God! |
| 14:42.13 | George | haha |
| 14:42.27 | George | someone here is trying to tell me that if you take lithium-ion batteries through x-ray machines they halve in capacity |
| 15:02.20 | JAV | House, great tv show |
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| 15:12.19 | George | JAV: indeed. |
| 15:14.37 | JAV | with his debian t-shirt :) |
| 15:15.15 | George | heh |
| 15:15.20 | George | I'm wearing my Linux Malaga shirt |
| 15:42.50 | gregj | :] |
| 15:42.54 | gregj | what a coincidence |
| 15:43.01 | gregj | i have to take it off |
| 15:43.02 | gregj | :] |
| 15:45.01 | George | gregj: hahaha |
| 15:45.40 | gregj | and put on t-shirt that says: fuck George |
| 15:45.55 | George | ooh |
| 15:45.58 | George | you have one of those too? |
| 15:45.59 | gregj | of course it is about the other George , but that would be a coincidence, would it |
| 15:46.15 | gregj | damn, I guess it is in the dirts |
| 15:47.43 | gregj | I am also waiting now for two new tshirts from tshirthell.com |
| 15:48.05 | wethrin | Which ones? |
| 15:48.07 | gregj | one is "fuck chuck", and the other one says something like "I bet you'll vote next time, hippie" |
| 15:48.17 | gregj | I already have quite few |
| 15:48.42 | gregj | about 10 |
| 15:48.49 | gregj | they have great ideas |
| 15:48.51 | gregj | :] |
| 15:49.51 | wethrin | heh |
| 15:49.52 | wethrin | yeah |
| 15:50.44 | gregj | I love one that says: if you can read this, you need to get laid |
| 15:50.50 | wethrin | heh |
| 15:51.01 | wethrin | f u cn rd ths, u nd 2 gt laid? |
| 15:51.25 | gregj | and the one about jk rowlling book: something like "dumbeldor dies on page X , just saved yeh Y hours of reading and 8 quid" |
| 15:51.30 | gregj | wethrin: yeah |
| 15:51.30 | wethrin | Yeah :) |
| 15:51.32 | wethrin | heh |
| 15:52.13 | gregj | wethrin: because the first sentence is written in rather clear lang, some ppl start to reading it, just to get to the second sentence - and either fill disgusted after looking at me, or don't understand what the word "laid" means :D |
| 15:52.42 | wethrin | heh |
| 15:53.02 | wethrin | I've seen one which has in quite small print near the bottom of the shirt "While you're down there, you may as well give me a blowjob" |
| 15:53.06 | gregj | oh, and I love the one that says "jesus did it for chicks" |
| 15:53.11 | wethrin | :) |
| 15:53.37 | gregj | or stupidity causes cancer , written just like one malboro advert |
| 15:53.49 | George | rofl |
| 15:53.55 | George | no |
| 15:53.58 | George | stupidity IS a cancer |
| 15:55.07 | wethrin | No, it's a plague |
| 15:55.13 | wethrin | :) |
| 15:56.03 | gregj | :] |
| 15:57.59 | George | indeed |
| 15:58.03 | George | I mean, look at Oxford |
| 17:19.17 | George | argh, I have a pain in my chest |
| 17:31.34 | mozrat | you all suck |
| 17:32.13 | George | :'( |
| 17:32.16 | George | mozzy |
| 17:32.18 | George | you're horrid |
| 17:42.16 | andrew__ | hi there |
| 17:42.32 | andrew__ | In the pembury arms |
| 17:43.32 | wethrin | I'm not! |
| 17:43.39 | wethrin | Do you have good beer? |
| 17:44.19 | George | you have intarweb? |
| 17:46.10 | Erwin | No beer here, but I'm drinking a unique red made out of diseased grapes, with taste of tobacco (Dead Arm Shiraz) |
| 17:47.50 | wethrin | oh dear |
| 17:48.26 | Erwin | Hey, the 2001 vintage scored 98 pts with Robert Parker :) |
| 17:51.52 | andrew__ | Yes - I have pt of Daedelus and Matthew has Nero. They come from the Milton Brewery. |
| 17:54.06 | andrew__ | http://www.miltonbrewery.co.uk/ |
| 17:54.37 | wethrin | ooh |
| 17:55.14 | andrew__ | Matthew & I can sit in front of our respective laptops and not talk to each other. |
| 17:55.21 | wethrin | :-) |
| 17:55.27 | andrew__ | Perhaps we should sit on opposite sides of the put and talk via IRC |
| 17:55.33 | wethrin | That'd work |
| 17:55.43 | George | indeed |
| 17:56.02 | andrew__ | My boss used to have and ISDN line and 2 teenage daughters. |
| 17:56.19 | George | andrew__: and? |
| 17:56.32 | andrew__ | Once he found they were sitting in the same room chatting via MSN using 2 calls |
| 17:56.39 | wethrin | hehe |
| 17:56.43 | George | bwahaha |
| 17:56.59 | z00dax | humm... been there, done that - sitting across the same table and talking over irc |
| 17:57.07 | George | z00dax: to me |
| 17:57.20 | z00dax | i think some of us where even talking via irc, at a presentation. and i've used irc to find people at a pub once too ! |
| 17:57.36 | George | z00dax: mozrat, you and I were all IRCing |
| 18:00.28 | mozrat | we were |
| 18:01.40 | George | tomorrow the summer of code sign up goes live :D |
| 18:25.26 | andrew__ | about to order a takeaway - they don't do food here yet |
| 18:48.53 | andrew__ | wethrin - when are you next down these parts ? |
| 18:49.21 | wethrin | andrew__: Couple of weeks I'm back for my mother's birthday, so I won't be around on the Friday night |
| 18:51.57 | andrew__ | so when will you be around (ie available to drink with us) |
| 18:53.39 | Leeds | coo |
| 18:54.10 | Leeds | uh, foo, with vokda and the keyboard at a strange angle |
| 18:54.15 | wethrin | andrew__: Not sure ATM |
| 18:54.39 | wethrin | But I will let people know |
| 18:54.51 | wethrin | June sometime, most likely |
| 18:55.16 | wethrin | Yay! |
| 18:55.59 | Leeds | I ended up going out drinking with a pile of DVDs... showed them to one of the girls and she hadn't watched any of them! |
| 18:57.26 | Leeds | Blazing Saddles, Shaun of the Dead, Dumb & Dumber, The Dish, Dogma, Life of Brian, Jay & Silent Bob Strike Back... |
| 19:00.36 | andrew__ | I find people better company than DVDs :-) |
| 19:01.04 | wethrin | Leeds: So you're watching it with one of the girls? |
| 19:01.46 | Leeds | wethrin: I am not... we shall be watching things in the future |
| 19:05.27 | Leeds | if one of the girls was here, I wouldn't be on IRC :-) |
| 19:07.10 | wethrin | Yeah. We'd have had to tell you off otherwise :) |
| 19:20.06 | Leeds | anyway, zzzzzz |
| 19:26.36 | mozrat | Boo |
| 19:32.25 | George | girls are useless |
| 19:33.28 | z00dax | girls are fun |
| 19:34.37 | Leeds | one of them is mad... she just called me - it's past 3:30am |
| 19:34.53 | Leeds | on the other hand, Blazing Saddles just got to the fart scene ;-) |
| 19:35.55 | Leeds | I had make an off-the-cuff comment about meeting for breakfast, and hadn't mentioned it to her, so she was chasing me up onit |
| 19:37.56 | wethrin | Girls++ |
| 19:38.03 | wethrin | heh |
| 19:38.11 | wethrin | You have a date! |
| 19:38.23 | George | ewwwwwwww |
| 19:38.25 | George | EWWWWWWWWWW |
| 19:38.29 | George | WHERE'S MY VOMIT BAG? |
| 19:39.14 | Leeds | with Gricelda? no thanks... |
| 19:39.38 | George | why would I get a significant other? |
| 19:39.45 | George | and if I did, why would I tell you? |
| 19:41.10 | wethrin | because we'd all find out! :) |
| 19:42.58 | mozrat | Leeds: RESULT! |
| 19:49.49 | George | wethrin: nah, like hell I'd tell you |
| 19:50.25 | wethrin | heh |
| 19:55.14 | wethrin | blarg |
| 19:56.08 | mozrat | it works!! |
| 19:56.18 | andrew__ | what is the sematics of "blarg" |
| 19:56.29 | wethrin | I don't know :) |
| 19:56.39 | andrew__ | so why did you say it |
| 19:57.38 | andrew__ | my round - anyone who can get to the pembury tavern in the next 2 mins gets a drink |
| 19:57.57 | *** join/#gllug highbury (n=steve@zorble.plus.com) |
| 19:58.10 | wethrin | Er. Just feeling tired and slightly bored |
| 20:09.52 | rhowe | ibot: change 4500 gbp to sek |
| 20:14.45 | andrew__ | Is election fever gripping people in other parts of London? |
| 20:15.38 | Erwin | If you pay council tax, you should be on the list AFAIK |
| 20:16.01 | rhowe | In that case, I may still be on the roll in Hendon |
| 20:16.09 | rhowe | From 18 months ago, which is the last time I paid council tax |
| 20:16.27 | rhowe | Now I kinda pay it.. I think our names are on it at least |
| 20:17.51 | andrew__ | our ward is currently Labour, but the council as a whole is libD |
| 20:18.02 | rhowe | Our is Lib dem, I think |
| 20:18.10 | rhowe | (Chaucer) |
| 20:18.20 | andrew__ | The libD's think they are in for a chance to take our ward so our daggesr drawn with Labour |
| 20:18.29 | Erwin | Hmm, now I'm going to return to Denmark & Copenhagen in August, and I'm looking for a flat there to share with my gf, but the good stuff is hard to find unlike in London |
| 20:18.42 | rhowe | Now, let's see.. how fast is my DSL today? |
| 20:18.57 | rhowe | Not very.. |
| 20:18.59 | andrew__ | saw Tessa Jowell in the street yesterday. |
| 20:19.07 | rhowe | 340Kbyte/s |
| 20:19.12 | andrew__ | Lab pulling out there big guns :-) |
| 20:19.27 | rhowe | andrew__: Was she on her way to the job centre? :) |
| 20:20.20 | andrew__ | I could say "spend more time with her family" but her family is rather smaller than it used to be |
| 20:22.24 | rhowe | How they produced such a huge series of PDF files, I'll never know |
| 20:22.43 | rhowe | they're in 7 .zip files, each one between 10 and 20MB |
| 21:00.11 | andrew__ | still in the pub. One more drink then it the railway |
| 21:00.44 | andrew__ | s/it/hit/ |
| 21:01.14 | andrew__ | ibot - how do you know what I meant |
| 21:06.52 | andrew__ | nearly time for the train ... |
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| 21:14.44 | mozrat | simplesimon!!! |
| 21:15.00 | wethrin | A Simon conspiracy? |
| 21:15.04 | simplesimon | hello mate, just doing a quick email to you |
| 21:15.08 | mozrat | ah ok |
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| 21:30.23 | mozrat | simplesimon: replied |
| 21:31.19 | George | hi mozrat! |
| 21:31.22 | George | die arika-chan! |
| 21:32.45 | simplesimon | anyone any experience of freenet? |
| 21:34.17 | rhowe | o.O BOCOG produced 196MB of PDF files |
| 21:34.17 | rhowe | Someone needs to teach them about image resolutions |
| 21:38.25 | boudiccas | die George! |
| 21:38.48 | George | death to boudiccas! |
| 21:38.59 | boudiccas | :) |
| 21:43.42 | wethrin | hum |
| 21:45.34 | George | I see PRIDE! I see POWER! I see a BAS ASS MOTHER WHO WON'T TAKE NO CRAP OFF OF NOBODY! |
| 21:51.49 | rhowe | George: Where? |
| 21:51.57 | morsing | mozrat: I like my current Gllug quote :) |
| 21:52.02 | morsing | rhowe! |
| 21:52.08 | morsing | rhowe: Why are you ignoring me? |
| 21:53.49 | rhowe | morsing: I am? |
| 21:54.00 | George | rhowe: ? |
| 22:03.06 | z00dax | 38 disconnects in 1 day 18 hrs |
| 22:04.34 | rhowe | z00dax: My ADSL's now running at ~4-6Mbit/s down |
| 22:04.39 | rhowe | z00dax: ~350Kbit/s up |
| 22:04.46 | z00dax | how about your disconnects ? |
| 22:04.57 | rhowe | z00dax: Hm.. not sure |
| 22:05.36 | rhowe | ibot rhowe |
| 22:05.39 | ibot | it has been said that rhowe is a fool, or now engaged to Miss Sarah Li, of Hong Kong fame, or a windows hater, or maybe just an Explorer hater, or not now engaged to Miss Sarah Li, of Hong Kong fame, or a tart, according to George, or about to be placed firmly under the thumb |
| 22:05.41 | z00dax | I have 7Mb -8Mb down |
| 22:05.46 | rhowe | ~seen rhowe |
| 22:05.58 | ibot | rhowe is currently on #gllug (3d 4h 49m 8s). Has said a total of 128 messages. Is idling for 12s, last said: '~seen rhowe'. |
| 22:06.07 | z00dax | ibot: z00dax |
| 22:06.13 | z00dax | :) |
| 22:06.16 | rhowe | ibot rhowe is also now under the thumb more firmly than he could ever have imagined |
| 22:06.18 | ibot | rhowe: okay |
| 22:11.02 | mozrat | thumbs-- |
| 22:12.37 | arika-chan | :o |
| 22:13.34 | morsing | ibot z00dax |
| 22:19.09 | wethrin | poor rhowe |
| 22:37.08 | mozrat | Shhh, /me is on Jabber with the guy behind Sheleytherepublican |
| 22:37.48 | mozrat | s/sheley/shelley/ |
| 22:38.55 | mozrat | Fools - they have done well those guys - loads of publicity |
| 22:39.09 | mozrat | I beleived it initially |
| 22:44.49 | wethrin | Well, it's quite clear they're not real. |
| 22:44.56 | wethrin | Who are they, then? |
| 22:48.23 | mozrat | apparently they don't know each other |
| 22:48.29 | mozrat | There are a few of them writing |
| 22:48.34 | wethrin | Ahhh |
| 22:48.41 | mozrat | which explains the high volume of bollocks coming out of that site |
| 22:48.44 | wethrin | :-) |
| 22:48.47 | mozrat | This guys name is Salim |
| 22:48.53 | wethrin | Is he American? |
| 22:49.07 | mozrat | I don't think he is - he said he was going to bed |
| 22:49.10 | mozrat | probably UK |
| 22:49.22 | wethrin | Ahh. That'd explain satire :) |
| 22:49.22 | mozrat | he has a googlemail.com address rather than gmail.com |
| 22:49.25 | mozrat | yes :) |
| 22:49.40 | wethrin | There is a real Shelley, y'know |
| 22:49.50 | mozrat | surprised there are no Google adverts on that site |
| 22:50.24 | mozrat | I seem to be the canonical reference for "The Shining"images on Google according to my blog apache logs |
| 22:51.27 | mozrat | just loads of 404 errors for an image I had up a while ago |
| 22:53.48 | wethrin | ah |
| 22:54.57 | mozrat | and some fscker using an image from my site as their avatar on a forum |
| 22:55.00 | mozrat | grr |
| 22:55.15 | mozrat | I need to get smart and kill that off |
| 22:56.12 | wethrin | tubgirl.com |
| 23:00.15 | mozrat | lovely |
| 23:00.51 | wethrin | Um. That is, you put that picture on if someone links directly to your site |
| 23:01.30 | mozrat | ah, :) |
| 23:04.05 | mozrat | that really is a medical marvel she has going on there |
| 23:47.38 | simplesimon | hey moz, you going to LONIX meet Wed? |
| 23:48.51 | mozrat | Well |
| 23:48.54 | mozrat | Why not.. |
| 23:48.56 | mozrat | :) |
| 23:51.23 | simplesimon | cool... I insist you express a preference as to your preferrred tipple, in case I was moved to expressing my gratitude for fri / mon |
| 23:52.01 | mozrat | payment in beer is gladly accepted |
| 23:52.04 | mozrat | :-) |
| 23:52.33 | mozrat | If you are paranoid by nature do not look in your webserver logs - there are some strange people out there |
| 23:53.01 | mozrat | I seem to have a lot of referrer hits frompeople googling my name |
| 23:53.07 | mozrat | from different countries |
| 23:53.43 | *** join/#gllug pdr (n=pdr@pogo.pdr.me.uk) |
| 23:53.47 | simplesimon | k... I'll try to come up with something a little exotic... going to continent in a few weeks |
| 23:53.49 | mozrat | hey pdr |
| 23:53.56 | pdr | hey mozrat |
| 23:54.23 | pdr | do you know any good spots worth visiting on the way to abergaveney? |
| 23:54.32 | mozrat | simplesimon: don't feel you have too, buy me a beer and I'll feel sufficiently compensated |
| 23:54.40 | mozrat | pdr, you are describing my old stamping ground!! |
| 23:54.48 | mozrat | Near Brecon? |
| 23:54.56 | pdr | somewhere in wales |
| 23:55.07 | simplesimon | mozrat: I checked out silenceisdefeat.org just now... |
| 23:55.10 | mozrat | Yep, south wale s, brecon beacons |
| 23:55.22 | pdr | we'll probably head to stone henge early, then on to bath for lunch |
| 23:55.38 | mozrat | simplesimon: I don't own that server, that is just the IRC logs |
| 23:55.53 | mozrat | I'm looking at my blog server logs |
| 23:55.54 | pdr | nice area! you must feel lucky coming from such a nice place |
| 23:56.06 | simplesimon | oh... well it all looks pretty right on anyway ;) |
| 23:56.10 | mozrat | pdr: ahh, not actually from there as such - used to go there about 10 times a year |
| 23:56.32 | pdr | mozrat: a girlfriend there or something? |
| 23:57.05 | mozrat | pdr: no, I used to enjoy digging holes in the military training area and sitting in them for a week or so |
| 23:57.18 | pdr | sounds like fun |
| 23:57.30 | mozrat | oh yes |
| 23:57.31 | mozrat | very |
| 23:58.17 | pdr | do you get to cook with real fire and everything? |
| 23:58.44 | mozrat | pdr: I don't do that anymore, but we used to use little cookers |
| 23:59.24 | pdr | the kerosine ones? they're great pieces of kit |