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00:06.48Georgemozrat: NEVER
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02:58.55Georgehey LeedsHK
03:24.30LeedsHKmorning
03:27.47GeorgeLeedsHK: is DDR2 backwards compatible with DDR?
03:28.00LeedsHKno
03:31.15Georgeok
03:32.37LeedsHKin theory, dual-channel DDR is faster than DDR2, at current rates, I think, but DDR2 has higher speeds to come
03:34.14Georgemy T43p uses DDR2, my X40 uses DDR
03:34.50LeedsHKmine is DDR, AFAIK, and my desktop machine certainly is, since AMD don't support DDR2 yet - should be coming around the middle of this year
03:35.48Georgeyes
03:35.53Georgemy desktop machine is dual channel DDR333
03:36.31LeedsHKme too
03:36.52Georgeathlon64 3500+ :)
03:37.33LeedsHKmine is only a 3000+
03:38.09LeedsHKI am currently flip-flopping over buying a nice new X2 processor, or a whole new machine with a TB or so of disk
03:49.52Georgehrmm
03:49.58GeorgeI don't think the X2s are worth upgrading to yet
03:53.21Georgeinteresting... VMWare opens up their partition format
03:53.34Georgedoes that mean that VMWare Player can now be used on its own as a standalone product?
03:59.36LeedsHKnot yet, AFAIK - but it means people will be able to write tools to interoperate with it
04:10.48LeedsHKI really hate for-sale standards
04:44.26George?
04:49.10LeedsHKwhen there is a published standard, but you have to pay for a copy of it
04:50.58LeedsHKmeanwhile, my face is falling off
05:36.02morsingLeedsHK!
05:45.06murbmoin
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06:18.25LeedsHKmorsing...
07:21.14mozratMorning
07:21.42mozratLeedsHK: Are you shedding your skin?
07:23.43LeedsHKyes
07:29.04LeedsHKonly on my face... my forehead is feeling a bit scaly, to be honest
07:30.12SlayerXPsome kind of hideous, unholy transformation in progress?
07:30.15SlayerXPor sunburn?
07:34.23LeedsHKsunburn
07:35.40LeedsHKfor no particular reason, we're having mid-afternoon tea today :-)
07:37.14mozrathow very English
07:38.03LeedsHKI have chocolate milk and a tuna sandwich...
07:38.21LeedsHKit's an occasional tradition, apparently
08:44.09LeedsHKand it's ancestor-reverence day tomorrow!
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09:02.10cupmorning
09:02.27LeedsHKcup: hi
09:07.59mozratHi cup
09:24.20z00daxmorning!
09:24.28mozratGood morning z00dax
09:24.44z00daxmozrat, been a nightmare so far....
09:24.55z00daxhow difficult is it getting a bike license ?
09:26.54LeedsHKoh, what a fun town... http://www.expat-at-large.com/pm/comments.php?id=661_0_1_0_C
09:28.07mozratz00dax: for under 125cc I don't think it is a problem at atll
09:28.16mozratyou can ride one on a learners licence
09:28.26mozratfor over 125cc you need to do the CBT I think
09:28.54wethrinI thought you needed the CBT for whatever size
09:29.19z00daxwhats a CBT and where can i find it !
09:30.12mozratCompulsory Basic test
09:30.28LeedsHKmorsing: surely it's a Java Test by now?
09:30.39mozratz00dax: if you are talking about transportation issues I would suggest a jet-pack or personal helicopter backpack
09:31.31wethrinLeedsHK: mis-tabbed again?
09:31.59LeedsHKwethrin: indeed
09:32.02z00daxmozrat, i am not paid enough :(
09:34.21mozratz00dax: Shame
09:40.13z00daxso i will need to do a CBT - clear all 5 stages, then do a theory and then a practical
09:42.11mozrator... buy a jetpack. the choice is yours
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09:49.29cbzmorning.
09:52.40z00daxcbz, hey
09:58.11cbzhi z00dax
10:14.13mozratHi cbz
10:19.43cbzhi mozrat
10:26.08cupanyone here used linux from scratch alot?
10:26.24mozratI read the documentation
10:26.25mozrat:)
10:26.57cupI can't find what I am looking for
10:50.31mozratIsn't that the name of a U2 song?
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11:08.06Leedswow, they found a dismantled MiG in a container here on Sunday
11:10.10mozratyikes
11:10.36Leedsapparently it had no weapons, so that's alright then
11:10.54Leedshttp://www.hindu.com/thehindu/holnus/003200604041511.htm
11:11.50z00daxi wonder what the container documentatoin said
11:12.04SlayerXP"Airfix"
11:13.06Leedslol
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11:28.04mozrathey
11:28.09mozrathow is it going....
11:28.33wethrinHe's evidently not listening to talks :)
11:28.52wethrinI'll still try and turn up on the 22nd
11:28.58wethrinBut I really don't care about a talk about FSFE :)
11:29.51Georgemozrat: dunno
11:29.54Georgewethrin: no talks
11:29.58Georgewethrin: we're in a cafe...
11:30.02wethrinOh
11:30.07wethrinPubs > cafes
11:30.27Georgeindeed
11:31.28mozratwethrin: Apple *might* be doing a talk
11:31.34wethrinwooo!
11:32.00mozratThe guy said that it is a possibility - but he is an account manager and he needs to find someone technical
11:32.34wethrinroight
11:35.21mozratwethrin: so you're not coming down on the 18th then :(
11:35.32wethrinmozrat: I can't
11:35.56wethrinI'm coming back to Durham on the morning of the 18th
11:36.13mozratshame
11:36.19wethrinYeah
11:39.40mozratI wonder how hard it will be to record the one on Thursday
11:39.58wethrinEr. Hm. Maybe I'm returning on the 17th
11:40.00wethrinFuck knows
11:40.03wethrinWednesday, anyway
11:40.14mozratWed is the 19th AFAIK
11:40.26wethrin18th is Tuesday?
11:40.30mozratyep
11:40.30wethrinsigh
11:40.40mozratOh
11:40.41wethrinOh yes
11:40.41mozratfuck
11:40.42mozratsorry
11:40.42GeorgeI have an 8-cell battery for my thinkpad
11:40.45George7.5 hours :D
11:40.48mozrats/Thursday/Tuesday/
11:40.51wethrinYou claimed Tue. 18th
11:41.00wethrinI can be there on Tuesday
11:41.01mozratignore me. Or kick me
11:41.05mozratI meant tuesday
11:41.07Georgeyou all suck!
11:41.08wethrin:)
11:41.24wethrinBut I won't stay much after 10.30 in the pub, as I have a Kings Cross train at 8.30am to catch
11:41.27mozratso - you can make it or not. I am thoroughly confused now
11:41.30wethrin1st class travlling++
11:42.02Georgewethrin--
11:42.28Georgethey're ALL using thinkpads here
11:44.21wethrinOn Tuesday, I can make it
11:44.35wethrinWhy? I'll get a free newspaper, and free coffee
11:44.37mozratfantastic!
11:44.42wethrinLots of free coffee
11:44.49Georgewethrin: do they have free internet?
11:44.53wethrinGeorge: Maybe
11:45.00wethrinSome trains do, not all yet
11:45.03Georgewethrin: maybe isn't good enough
11:45.08mozratDo you get power for your laptop?
11:45.15wethrinmozrat: Yes
11:45.31mozratgiven the choice of free internet or available power - I would go for the volts
11:45.43wethrinGeorge: I think GNER plans to have internet available on all their trains by the end of this summer
11:45.50wethrinmozrat: It's only free in 1st class
11:45.57wethrinAnd all trains have power points
11:46.03wethrinSome also have wireless interweb
11:47.03mozratI like the interwebs
11:48.27Georgewethrin: ok
11:48.37Georgewethrin: when I was last on a GNER train, the power point didn't work
11:48.45wethrinHa
11:48.47boudiccasits the power points that help them get to their destination. gone are the days of manual point switching
11:49.07wethrinGeorge: Was that when you went to York?
11:49.11GeorgeWarwick
11:49.14wethrinErr
11:49.22wethrinGNER doesn't go close to Warwick
11:49.45wethrinwhat twisted route did you take?
12:02.35cbzheh
12:03.32cbzYes, the one thing the complementary upgrade to first class for Gold Card holders is actually good for
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12:27.52JAVafternoon
12:28.26mozratHi-ho
12:34.04SlayerXPwarwick's nice
13:20.08wethrinNot the University
13:43.08cbzMy brother is at the university
13:53.47SlayerXPi have a friend working there
13:54.03SlayerXPi sold UoW a whole bunch of opteron kit
14:04.12mozratAnyone care to listen to my apache problem?
14:04.12mozratMy site is running very slowly
14:04.12wethrinNo, I'm already listening to the radio. But thanks :)
14:04.12cbzI think you should blog about it - and say that your mood is 'sad'
14:04.12mozratI just ran tcpdump on the server and client at the same time
14:04.12mozratI've married up the packets in either trace
14:04.20mozratI see the initial TCP handshake - a GET / HTTP/1.1 request from teh client
14:04.25mozratan ACK from the server
14:04.30mozratand then nothing for 4 seconds
14:04.37mozratthen the server serves the page
14:04.59cbzdnslookup?
14:05.06SlayerXPperhaps you have reverse resolving set up in the log file
14:05.12mozratNope
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14:05.27mozraton the server trace packet 96 is the ACK
14:05.28SlayerXPwhat distro? which apache?
14:05.33mozratpacket 97 is th start of the page
14:05.39mozratSlayerXP: Debian, let me get the apache version
14:05.57mozrat2.0.54-5
14:06.11SlayerXPsarge or etch?
14:06.16mozratSarge
14:06.26mozratIt is using stable repos
14:06.30SlayerXP*nods*
14:06.42SlayerXPsame thing with a different client?
14:07.00mozratmy only clue is that in ethereal the lines after that ACK say "[TCP segment of a reassembled PDU]"
14:07.07SlayerXPif you set up a plain vhost with just a text file being served, does the same thing happen?
14:07.17cbzAnd same thing repeatedly on the same url?
14:08.03mozratcbz, same thing with all URLS AFAIK
14:08.06mozratall sites run dog slow
14:10.28mozratOK - so, not with a plain text file
14:10.31mozratthat is speedy
14:11.55mozratIn fact - it is just the PHP/MySQL apps that run like that.
14:12.02mozratSo not apaches fault possibly
14:21.01mozratLeeds: you might be right
14:21.14mozrator my MySQL server is running very slowly
14:22.49cbzmubbe php or mysql is doing a lookup
14:24.23Leedsmozrat: do you have multiple mysql processes/threads running?  you could try to get an strace -p in while it's blocking and see if it's doing anything
14:25.36mozratwow - lots of MySQL processes
14:25.44mozrat12 in fact
14:26.06Leedsthrottling?
14:26.23mozrathow do I check that?
14:27.24Leedsno idea
14:28.06z00daxdtrace!
14:28.17Leedsunfortunately, yes
14:28.20mozratHmm, lots of people "knocking on my door" in error.log
14:28.21z00daxhahahaha
14:28.27mozrat[Tue Apr 04 04:54:03 2006] [error] [client 222.107.42.101] File does not exist: /var/www/sumthin
14:28.39z00daxthat should not take up much resources
14:28.39Leedsmorsing: literally /var/www/sumthin?
14:28.48mozratthats what they requested
14:28.58mozrat[Mon Apr 03 22:16:39 2006] [error] [client 141.51.81.115] File does not exist: /var/www/cgibin, referer: http://80.68.89.218/cgibin/awstats.pl
14:28.59Leedshow odd
14:29.18z00daxwhurr
14:29.24mozratI don't have awstats installed
14:29.47z00daxis that your IP though ?
14:29.54mozratNope
14:29.54Leedsthat's just someone probing for a known exploitable hole
14:30.11z00daxwhat would the GET <url> hav been to get httpd looking outside the docroot ?
14:30.19z00daxor is /var/www/ your docroot ?
14:30.38mozratIt probably is for the default server - I have a few vhosts using different webroots
14:30.54mozrat<PROTECTED>
14:31.45mozratI have loads of broken links with the referrer "http://www.dogsonacid.com" which I have never heard of
14:31.50mozratit is a strange internet out there
14:32.29mozratmozrat01:/opt/wwwroot/www.beerandspeech.org/logs# grep dogsonacid error.log | wc -l
14:32.33mozrat130
14:37.38Leedsmozrat: I assume you've seen whois dogsonacid.com
14:38.07mozratI haven't
14:38.25mozratDan Stein
14:45.26z00daxpointless
14:45.33z00daxdo you have the world 'blog' somewhere there ?
14:45.39z00dax( on the legit website )
14:45.51mozraton my site? yep
14:46.09z00daxthey are looking for refferer track spam / google foo - the sort made famous by MoveableType
14:46.21mozratah. bastards
14:46.42z00daxmiddle of last year - i was getting between 6000 - 6500 a day
14:46.49z00daxeasy way around this - setup a rate limiter
14:47.10z00daxif the same url gets passed in, at more than 3 per 10 sec block - its spam
14:48.00Leedswethrin: AOL
14:49.13wethrinHowever, I'll even be in the right part of the country. Just busy
14:52.52mozratbusy beer week again this month
14:52.59wethrinHeh
14:53.03mozratLonix and London.pm in the same week
14:53.08wethrinWell, I'll see you at London.pm, won't I?
14:53.18mozratI guess so!
14:53.33wethrinYay!
14:53.47wethrinAlthough I should try and put some more faces to IRC names at the meeting
14:56.02Georgewoo
14:56.12wethrinOh glods
14:56.21wethrinI mean, wb George!
14:56.30mozrathow was the meeting George ?
14:56.35wethrinmozrat: Are you on the London.pm announce list?
14:56.48mozratwethrin: on the main list
14:57.01wethrinAhh
14:57.08Georgemozrat: great, there were a couple of american google guys there
14:57.13Georgewho gave us a lift back home
14:57.18mozratGeorge: cool - did you get a job?
14:57.23wethrinI guess you've probably seen his rather nice description of the pub?
14:57.37wethrinmozrat: Google would have to be desperate...
14:57.46Georgemozrat: he said that if I wanted to do the summer of code, just drop him a line
14:58.24Georgewethrin: ?
14:58.29mozratCool
14:58.46wethrinSee, George doesn't even get when he's being insulted indirectly
15:00.49Georgewethrin sucks
15:02.42wethrinGood comeback!
15:04.25Georgeanyway
15:04.29GeorgeI bought an extended life battery
15:04.35wethrinUhhuh
15:04.47mozratmega-bucks George
15:04.58Georgemozrat: it was about 95 quid
15:05.03Georgemozrat: as opposed to 150 in the UK
15:05.19mozratWhen I were a lad.........
15:05.23wethrinJust adapt a car battery
15:05.26mozrat95 quid......
15:05.51Georgemozrat: it lasts about 7.5 hours
15:05.54mozratWe didn't have "95 quid" to waste on batteries.....
15:05.58LeedsGeorge: and you will be paying the appropriate VAT on the way back into the EU, right?
15:06.03mozratWe had an orange, a stick and a piece of string
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15:06.07mozratand were we happy?
15:06.23Leedsmozrat: yes, I believe you were
15:06.34Leedsevening puckman
15:06.38wethrinmozrat: An orange and two bits of wire would've been more useful
15:06.46puckmanello
15:06.54wethrinLeeds: I suggest you report him a a tax dodger if he doesn't
15:06.57puckmanman, this countries train 'system' is so fucked up
15:07.14puckmanhttp://www.flickr.com/photos/puckman/123225344/
15:07.17puckmanhave a look at that
15:07.23Leedswethrin: hell no - I support screwing the taxman whereever and whenever possible
15:08.10wethrinheh
15:08.37Leedsit's good to live in a place with no sales tax and an average income tax rate of about 12% :-)
15:08.49wethrinheh
15:09.07puckmanAnyone here ever use the national rail website to plan their train trip?
15:09.08Leedson the other hand, I do miss PAYE
15:09.24wethrinpuckman: Yes
15:09.25murbLeeds: you have to work out your own tax?
15:09.27puckmanEvery time when I look something up and use the earlier or later button it gives me random trains
15:09.34wethrinIt tends to WFM
15:09.36puckmanwhen I called them I was told that my browser is fucked
15:09.39puckmanright
15:09.44wethrinActually, I tend to use www.gnertickets.co.uk
15:09.47puckmanWFM?
15:09.51wethrinWorks For Me
15:09.57puckmancheck this out
15:10.00wethrinBoth with Safari and Firefox/Windows
15:10.06puckmanhttp://www.flickr.com/photos/puckman/123225344/
15:10.15wethrinYou've not disabled cookies, or anything silly?
15:10.35Leedsmurb: nah, but it's paid annually rather than monthly
15:10.35puckmanyou want to try it? look up kingston to oxford from 9:30
15:10.42puckmanthen look for earlier train and then later
15:10.48murbLeeds: in advance?
15:10.53puckmanyou will notice that mysterious trains that where not there show up
15:11.21murbor do you get a 13 month bonus you can use to pay the years tax?
15:11.22Leedsmurb: nope... well, I'm told that after your first full tax year you end up paying for that year and at least part of the year to come, based on projected earnings
15:11.34wethrinpuckman: Could do, but currently I only have Internet Explorer to hand
15:11.43Leedsthere is indeed a 13 month bonus, but it comes at Christmas, and I'm not liable for tax for another year, AFAIK
15:11.48Georgeÿþ/ÿþwÿþiÿþnÿþ ÿþ2ÿþ1
15:11.49murbLeeds: so you could have spent it all on girls and booze and end up in prision?
15:12.05Leedsyes, that could happen...
15:12.17Leedson a completely unrelated note, it's 2311 - almost pub time!
15:12.40puckmanwethrin: I want to BET it will happen in that too
15:12.48wethrinGeorge: Shush
15:12.58Georgewethrin: that was.. an accident
15:13.19puckmanI have done it in several browsers, all the same result
15:13.45puckmanwethrin: thanks for that url
15:13.57puckmanwethrin: it gives me all the missing trains
15:15.32wethrinpuckman: I get a 9.49 train, but no 10.04
15:15.43wethrinpuckman: Heh. It also allows you to buy tickets
15:16.06Leedswethrin: do *not* buy a ticket at this time
15:16.25wethrinLeeds: I'm not buying one
15:16.31wethrinBut why shouldn't I?
15:17.02Leedswell, why would you want a ticket from kingston to oxford?
15:17.16wethrinOh, I don't
15:17.34Leedsthen my advice is not to buy one :-)
15:17.35wethrinI know enough not to click on 'Buy', log in, get out my credit card, enter its details, click 'buy' again
15:18.28LeedsI am aware that this may not be the best advice I've ever given
15:18.37wethrinIt's not the most useful :)
15:22.52Leedsmy UK phone is rining
15:22.54puckmanwethrin: I noticed, very handy, just did so
15:22.55Leedsg
15:23.00wethrin:-)
15:23.12puckmanfuck national rail website, its crap
15:23.18puckmanand keeps on loading those dumb adverts
15:23.29wethrinYeah
15:25.15agkthe trains thing is them just trying to be helpful and suppress services it doesn't think are helpful
15:25.58agktwo options arrive at the same time, so the suppress the earlier start
15:26.52agkthe algorithm depends on the search start time you give it - affects how far ahead and back it looks for options like that
15:27.13Leedsagk: I'm curious... do you know, are you guessing, or have you researched the issue?
15:27.36Leedsoh, and incidentally, since you're here so rarely, how are you, etc?
15:28.30cbzwww.traintimes.org.uk
15:28.35cbzIs what i use to journey plan
15:28.36agkempirical evidence - I've always been able to explain the behaviour like that
15:28.51wethrinkelkoo.com is what I think I use on my phobile moan
15:29.07agkwww.bahn.de is one of the best
15:29.40agk(except when there's engineering work it might not know about)
15:29.55Leedsthere are only 2 real train lines (as opposed to tube-ish) in Hong Kong, and the trains run every 10-15 minutes... makes things easy :-)
15:30.02cbzThe danish one is pretty good too
15:30.22cbzThough sadly doesn't feature enough danish hotjes
15:32.29mozrataww http://ednet.rvc.cc.il.us/~jlbecker/00000000-00000000.8/free%20cat.jpg
15:32.34mozrat"Free cat"
15:33.52cbzhaha
15:34.09mozratlook left, look right, look left again
15:34.22wethrinIt's not opening for me
15:34.58Leedseugh
15:35.12wethrinAnyone got a local mirror?
15:35.42wethrintimeout from the DNS server
15:36.21Leedshttp://bigboy.vmlinuz.org/free%20cat.jpg
15:36.28wethrinthanks
15:36.51wethrinha
15:38.33Leedsnovels that pander to my taste in candour give me a pleasure sublime - let's face it, I love slime...
15:39.19mozrathttp://beerandspeech.org/index.php?/archives/58-Jono-BaconTed-Haeger-UK-LUG-Tour.html
15:39.32Leedscbz: Smut...
15:39.38mozratexcuse my mystery 6 second delay in loading the page
15:39.40Leedsgive me smut and nothing but
15:40.02Leedscbz: do you know Tom Lehrer?
15:40.18cbzOh okay
15:40.40cbzI don't go a bundle on musical satire - aka songs I can only listen to once :)
15:40.43Leedsnext up, the horribly appropriate "Send in the Marines"
15:41.40Leeds"for might makes right, until they've seen the light, they've got to be protected, all their rights protected, 'til somebody we like can be elected"
15:41.58wethrinplus ça change....
15:42.05cbzI prefer ee cummings.
15:42.12Leedsthat song is... 50 years old?
15:42.36wethrinnewer than that, surely
15:42.42wethrinmid-50s?
15:44.01Leedsalright, more than 40 years old
15:44.36Leeds41, apparently
15:45.27cbzNearly a 100 years old! Rounding up for the sake of argument.
15:46.16Leedshis recordings stretch from 41 years ago to 53
15:46.23Georgeanyway, the google guy said that if I wanted to do the SoC this year to drop him a line :D
15:46.43wethrinYou said :)
15:46.54Georgedid I?
15:46.59Georgeooh, well, I'm happy about it :)
15:47.01wethrinYeah
15:47.18Georgethey wouldn't tell us where their data centre is
15:47.27wethrinThey've got various
15:47.33Georgein Taiwan, that is
15:47.36Georgeit's top secret
15:47.36LeedsI could have sworn they said they weren't doing a SoC this year
15:47.37Georgelol
15:47.44wethrinWell, it's not *such* a large part of China
15:47.48wethrinI'm sure you should be able to find it
15:48.13Leedswethrin: who told you it was part of CHina?
15:48.29wethrinThe Chinese!
15:48.40Leedsand what do they know about it?
15:48.59wethrinWell, I want to see if George will rise to the bait
15:49.49Leeds2350, pub time
15:50.30wethrinEnjoy!
15:51.02Leedsand of course since it's now April, there's no need for a jacket or any other such cold weather gear, day or night, until about November :-)
15:51.40wethrinbah
15:51.42wethrinIt's cold here
15:55.10Georgemoo
15:55.23wethrinoom
15:55.44wethrinNo wonder it's cold in here. It's 18C
15:56.33wethrin~seen Cope
15:56.48ibotcope <n=sanelson@vm.wibbleworld.org.uk> was last seen on IRC in channel #gllug, 25d 23h 38m 22s ago, saying: 'hmm'.
15:56.49Georgeugh, 18degC is far too hot
15:56.49George8degC is hot!
15:56.49wethrinonly if you're fat
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16:15.18cbzheh
16:16.05Georgewethrin: but you're fat
16:16.09Georgewethrin: you big fat bastard
16:16.41wethrinshush
16:24.40Georgeibot change 176.70 EUR to GBP
16:25.21murbibot change George to sugar
16:25.37wethrinibot convert George to sugar
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17:26.26Leedstwo things you might not expect to see in Hong Kong at 1:15am would be a group of about 8 motorcyclists, and a 7-11 full of teenaged Israeli girls
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18:30.17pie'lo
18:30.46pieAnyine know why ndiswrapper kernel module RPMs are no-longer being released for FC4?
18:56.47SlayerXPthat's both ndiswrapper and fc4 are uttely pointless.
18:56.55SlayerXPthat's because, I mean
18:57.07wethrintroll :)
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21:37.50JAVhello
21:44.22JAVok, EMI problem solved (tin foil works!)
21:44.50wethrinDepends on what frequencies :)
21:45.02wethrinIt amplified certain frequencies if worn as a helmet
21:45.13JAVheh
23:02.33mozratHappy Wednesday - Good night
23:08.29z00daxmozrat, nite
23:44.03ErwinHmm. Can anyone recommend a very recent high-spec but pocket-sized digicam? I feel like upgrading my old Pentax Optio

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