| 00:46.36 | George | byee |
| 00:50.54 | Leeds | hello George |
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| 05:28.24 | morsing | boudiccas! |
| 05:37.56 | Leeds | morsing! |
| 07:12.05 | Leeds | bah... apparently there was no 29th of February this year |
| 07:12.36 | Leeds | don't suppose anyone knows who to talk to to get that fixed? |
| 07:15.45 | SlayerXP | fraid not |
| 07:16.03 | SlayerXP | it's a bug, an dno-one seems to be able to talk to the developer |
| 07:17.54 | Leeds | people talk to him all the time, but he doesn't tend to respond to bug reports very much - the project is very much in maintainance mode |
| 07:19.16 | SlayerXP | right. what can I do today? |
| 07:19.43 | SlayerXP | I know! I'll upgrade the mail cluster. |
| 07:20.15 | SlayerXP | okay, that's done. |
| 07:26.23 | mozrat | Morning |
| 07:27.11 | mozrat | Leeds, is that "Project Earth" ? |
| 07:27.26 | Leeds | yeah |
| 07:27.49 | mozrat | Still in Alpha stage as well currently |
| 07:28.19 | Leeds | which is always a bad combination, I find - alpha quality, no longer developed |
| 07:29.13 | Leeds | I understand the original developer does have a few agencies around who handle support requests, but they don't have the source or authority to change anything |
| 07:29.36 | mozrat | Read only access to svn? |
| 07:29.48 | Leeds | not even that, AFAIK |
| 07:30.45 | Leeds | http://www.csc.liv.ac.uk/research/biocomp/ :-) and http://webmail.unizar.es/pipermail/fis/2004-September/000721.html :-( |
| 07:32.32 | mozrat | The guy in the second link worked on the project in the first link? |
| 07:33.46 | Leeds | yes - and taught me at Uni |
| 07:33.54 | mozrat | I see |
| 07:34.08 | Leeds | I knew he was dead - I didn't discover it today or anything... |
| 07:36.10 | mozrat | Did you go to that Uni? |
| 07:36.15 | Leeds | yes |
| 07:37.02 | SlayerXP | MSc in Stealing Cars? |
| 07:37.44 | Leeds | uh, no |
| 07:38.02 | mozrat | Calm Down |
| 07:38.20 | mozrat | </stereotype> |
| 07:38.34 | mozrat | Never been to Liverpool |
| 07:38.43 | SlayerXP | i have |
| 07:38.54 | SlayerXP | i took the ferry, across the mersey |
| 07:42.06 | SlayerXP | # And you'll neeeeeeeevah, walk, again |
| 07:42.09 | Leeds | I never took the ferry 'cross the mersey |
| 07:42.40 | Leeds | I did go to both Anfield and Goodison, and I walked through Toxteth at 3am, drunk |
| 07:46.22 | mozrat | Leeds, do you have access to gllug.org.uk ? |
| 07:46.43 | Leeds | nope |
| 07:46.46 | mozrat | k |
| 07:47.03 | SlayerXP | i do |
| 07:47.06 | SlayerXP | okay, i don't |
| 07:47.12 | mozrat | :) |
| 07:47.29 | Leeds | Steve would be your best bet, if you can track him down, otherwise Dean or even John - possibly Colin |
| 07:47.38 | mozrat | Dean hasn't |
| 07:47.42 | Leeds | ibot seen tarragon |
| 07:47.53 | ibot | tarragon <~Tarragon@spc1-stkp3-3-0-cust204.bagu.broadband.ntl.com> was last seen on IRC in channel #gllug, 342d 17h 50m 45s ago, saying: 'L8ers folks'. |
| 07:48.03 | Leeds | famous last words... |
| 07:48.30 | Leeds | ibot seen Spudulike |
| 07:48.32 | ibot | spudulike <n=colin@87.80.140.13> was last seen on IRC in channel #gllug, 157d 19h 21m 59s ago, saying: 'The drive which has the lvm filesystem on it also has a /boot partition. There is an initrd file on that /boot partition, along with a vmlinuz and a grub directory. Is it safe to add an entry in my existing grub/mnu.lst file pointing to this /boot ... |
| 07:48.39 | Leeds | ibot seen Spudwlike |
| 07:48.41 | ibot | spudwlike <~colin@82-35-32-164.cable.ubr01.camd.blueyonder.co.uk> was last seen on IRC in channel #gllug, 487d 18h 52m 47s ago, saying: 'Hmm, this is wrong.'. |
| 07:50.22 | Leeds | ibot seen highbury |
| 07:50.24 | ibot | highbury <n=steve@81.170.25.109> was last seen on IRC in channel #gllug, 24d 18h 36m 55s ago, saying: 'they almopst all have fair use policies :-('. |
| 07:54.38 | Leeds | mozrat: I do have a number for highbury if you want/need it - I don't know for sure that it's current |
| 07:55.00 | mozrat | Leeds: no, I'll bug the gllugadmin list a little more, Thanks |
| 07:55.58 | SlayerXP | i'm still bored. |
| 07:56.18 | mozrat | build a snowman |
| 07:56.27 | SlayerXP | i already have one |
| 07:56.34 | Leeds | doodle on wikipedia |
| 07:56.46 | murb | build an igloo? |
| 07:56.58 | SlayerXP | i don't have an ice saw |
| 07:57.06 | Leeds | go out and buy an ice saw |
| 07:57.24 | SlayerXP | can't be bothered |
| 07:57.32 | Leeds | go back to bed |
| 07:57.34 | murb | don't forget to get plannin permission. |
| 07:57.46 | SlayerXP | planning permission? |
| 07:58.04 | SlayerXP | my land, I can build what I like on it |
| 07:59.30 | SlayerXP | GET ORF MOI LAAAAAAHND! |
| 07:59.40 | SlayerXP | *ahem* |
| 08:02.01 | SlayerXP | Leeds: http://photos.hinterlands.org/p22632631.html |
| 08:06.44 | murb | hmm Silica Gel "Do not Eat(tm)" |
| 08:06.46 | murb | little strange |
| 08:07.25 | murb | SlayerXP: that isn't much. |
| 08:07.57 | Leeds | SlayerXP: so it's frozen wasteland? |
| 08:08.11 | SlayerXP | right now it's frozen, yes |
| 08:08.11 | murb | and he doesn't have an ice saw. |
| 08:08.27 | SlayerXP | it's farmland, no wasteland |
| 08:08.35 | Leeds | you're farming? |
| 08:08.44 | SlayerXP | no, but the farmer is |
| 08:08.55 | Leeds | he rents it from you? |
| 08:09.15 | SlayerXP | no, he land is right next to mine |
| 08:09.42 | Leeds | so your land is not farmland? |
| 08:10.14 | murb | my family have a little bit of farm land, but it is walking distance from a tube station... |
| 08:10.17 | SlayerXP | no, it's mostly lawn |
| 08:10.35 | murb | so soemthing like waste land? |
| 08:11.51 | SlayerXP | if you consider a lawn to be a waste of land then, yes, I suppose so |
| 08:12.18 | Leeds | when it could have a 60-storey apartment block on it! |
| 08:12.40 | murb | Leeds: depends on how much m^3 SlayerXP has. |
| 08:12.44 | murb | we only know about the base. |
| 08:13.00 | SlayerXP | no idea how high I can go |
| 08:13.30 | Leeds | surely if it's your land you can build what you like on it? |
| 08:13.41 | SlayerXP | to a point |
| 08:14.04 | SlayerXP | I think i'd get in trouble if aircraft had to divert around my house |
| 08:18.03 | Leeds | do you get many low-flying aircraft around your neck of the woods? |
| 08:18.36 | SlayerXP | just the other farmer's biplane |
| 08:27.06 | SlayerXP | nope, still bored. |
| 08:36.26 | Leeds | http://www.dumbledoreisnotdead.com/ |
| 08:37.41 | Leeds | contains Harry Potter spoilers :-) |
| 08:40.36 | George | hey |
| 08:44.30 | Leeds | afternoon George |
| 08:52.22 | Leeds | http://www.thesun.co.uk/article/0,,2-2006140349,,00.html damn! |
| 09:21.11 | wethrin | morning |
| 09:58.17 | z00dax | http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/technology/4853548.stm wtf! |
| 09:58.21 | z00dax | and morning all |
| 09:58.25 | z00dax | evening to leeds |
| 10:07.29 | SlayerXP | it's afternoon here |
| 10:08.00 | SlayerXP | z00dax: did that last tweak help drop the 20 at all? |
| 10:09.07 | z00dax | SlayerXP, I'll need to check, wildo in a bit |
| 10:11.11 | mozrat | z00dax: I loved the Tuttle story |
| 10:11.25 | z00dax | mozrat, :) |
| 10:12.23 | Leeds | z00dax: think viking |
| 10:13.09 | SlayerXP | okay, you all have my express authority to kill this Emon bloke |
| 10:13.13 | SlayerXP | of you go. |
| 10:13.15 | SlayerXP | off |
| 10:13.35 | Leeds | yeah, he's starting to get a bit annoying |
| 10:15.29 | mozrat | I think ignoring his posts maybe the best method - no need to be nasty abou tit |
| 10:15.44 | mozrat | s/u tit/t it/ |
| 10:15.44 | SlayerXP | i'm never nasty |
| 10:16.04 | mozrat | I'm sure - I actually laughed out loud at your Henry quip last night |
| 10:16.09 | Leeds | abuo tit sounds like a misspelled arab |
| 10:16.13 | mozrat | obviously not much on TV last night :P |
| 10:20.52 | Leeds | SlayerXP: so Drake is your 'nice' name? |
| 10:21.21 | SlayerXP | nothing to do with me, guv |
| 10:21.30 | SlayerXP | i'm waiting for the hantslug to reply |
| 10:21.46 | Leeds | he's also on a slackware list on which I lurk |
| 10:24.27 | wethrin | Hm. More Emon? |
| 10:24.34 | Leeds | yeah |
| 10:25.17 | wethrin | But he does seem to want to know what he did wrong |
| 10:25.45 | Leeds | I am on the verge of a 'polite' off-list mail to him |
| 10:26.47 | wethrin | :) |
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| 10:26.55 | Leeds | startxwhite! good evening! |
| 10:27.20 | wethrin | hello startxwhite |
| 10:27.25 | startxwhite | i've got an rtl8180 wifi pci card i want to configure on debian sarge. as a newbie i have problems understanding the 3rd paragraph of the very techie instructions at http://ace-host.stuart.id.au/russell/files/debian/sarge/rtl8180/ can anyone help?? |
| 10:28.44 | Leeds | startxwhite: *which* third paragraph? :-) |
| 10:28.50 | wethrin | um. Help - where do these very techie instructions start? |
| 10:30.29 | startxwhite | i am at present stuck at the paragraph that starts with : "the ./modules/rtl8180 subdirectory will be made..." |
| 10:31.21 | startxwhite | what commands and arguments do i have to issue? |
| 10:31.43 | Leeds | ah, make-kpkg is a specific debian thing, so I can't help |
| 10:31.44 | wethrin | cd /usr/src |
| 10:31.56 | wethrin | tar xfz rtl8180.tar.gz |
| 10:32.05 | startxwhite | that i did already |
| 10:32.15 | Leeds | SlayerXP! |
| 10:32.41 | wethrin | You'd need to get the rest of the kernel source installed, if you have that |
| 10:33.53 | startxwhite | i have installed and unpacked the debian kernel source |
| 10:34.56 | SlayerXP | "Dear! Emon! |
| 10:34.57 | SlayerXP | Thanks for contacting the Yahoo! Helpdesk!(tm) via the recommended means |
| 10:34.57 | SlayerXP | of sending email to ALL LUG MAILING LISTS ON EARTH. |
| 10:34.57 | SlayerXP | I have now deleted your Yahoo! Groups! Account! and hope this has |
| 10:34.57 | SlayerXP | solved your issue. |
| 10:34.59 | SlayerXP | Thank you for your message. |
| 10:35.01 | SlayerXP | Regards, |
| 10:35.03 | SlayerXP | Yahoo! Support!(R)" |
| 10:35.42 | SlayerXP | " |
| 10:36.04 | wethrin | SlayerXP will undoubtedly correct me, but from what I gather, you need to run "make-kpg --added_patches rtl8180" |
| 10:36.27 | SlayerXP | dunno, I never use kernel package utils |
| 10:36.45 | wethrin | Ah, yes. Mr. I-don't-believe-in-compiling :) |
| 10:37.06 | SlayerXP | servers get tuned kernels |
| 10:37.07 | startxwhite | "make-kpg --added_patches rtl8180" is all i need to issue? |
| 10:38.15 | murb | fakeroot |
| 10:38.28 | startxwhite | fakeroot?? |
| 10:38.35 | murb | don't build stuff as root. |
| 10:38.45 | murb | and without fakeroot make-kpkg will complain. |
| 10:39.17 | startxwhite | so what do i actually need to do? step by step regarding make-kpkg |
| 10:39.27 | murb | e.g. make-kpkg --rootcmd fakeroot |
| 10:41.07 | startxwhite | make-kpgg --rootcmd fakeroot --added_patches rtl8180? do i need to become root to issue that command? |
| 10:44.52 | Leeds | bugger this for a game of something-or-other - I'm off home |
| 10:45.05 | startxwhite | make-kpgg --rootcmd fakeroot --added_patches rtl8180? is that the only command i need to isuue? |
| 10:45.28 | Leeds | startxwhite: how about trying it? |
| 10:45.41 | Leeds | fare thee well, all |
| 10:48.55 | z00dax | just catching up with the mailing list.... that Emon guy seems to have been fun |
| 10:49.39 | z00dax | and btw, SeaMonkey so totally rocks over Firefox... |
| 10:53.45 | startxwhite | in /usr/src/kernel-source-2.6.8 i issued make-kpkg --rootcmd fakeroot --added_patches rtl8180 and got error: /usr/share/kernel-package/rules:1472:Could not find patch for rtl8180.Stop |
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| 10:53.51 | cbz | morning |
| 10:58.33 | startxwhite | wethrin: this rtl8180 thing is indeed very techie, right? |
| 10:58.59 | wethrin | Well, it's not a simple "run-it-and-it-works" |
| 10:59.30 | murb | maybe it is a run-it-twice-and-it-might-work thing? |
| 11:00.57 | startxwhite | but you will have agree this rtl8180 business is too much for a newbie desktop user, right? |
| 11:01.34 | wethrin | Yes, unless you want to get your hands dirty |
| 11:01.42 | startxwhite | anyways, how can i overcome the problem i have? |
| 11:02.09 | wethrin | don't bother about the Debian-specific bits, but skip ahead to the README, which tells you how to build it as a module |
| 11:08.15 | startxwhite | are you telling me NOT to follow the cryptic instructions at http://ace-host.stuart.id.au/russell/files/debian/sarge/rtl8180/ and compile by hand? running bog standard make? |
| 11:09.52 | wethrin | yes |
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| 11:46.35 | z00dax | boudiccas, ping |
| 11:47.08 | z00dax | boudiccas, unping |
| 11:51.50 | boudiccas | z00dax; was up? |
| 12:51.59 | Leeds | to humous or not to humous, that is the question |
| 12:52.05 | cbz | No. |
| 12:52.27 | Leeds | why not? |
| 12:53.05 | Leeds | apart from the fact that it involves going to the one supermarket I know of in HK which stocks the Israeli brand I like... |
| 13:00.27 | cbz | Lazy git, make it yourself. |
| 13:02.08 | JAV | good afternoon |
| 13:05.04 | Leeds | those excellent arguments aside... I'm going to the supermarket |
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| 15:57.41 | mozrat | lalalalalaaaaaaa! |
| 15:57.49 | mozrat | http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&ru=http://search.ebay.com:80/search/search.dll?from=R40&satitle=6265092168&fvi=1&item=6265092168&rd=1 |
| 15:58.16 | mozrat | Condition: Used, yeah, no shit |
| 16:03.05 | wethrin | Please to be shortening the URL! |
| 16:03.48 | mozrat | http://cgi.ebay.com search for 6265092168 |
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| 16:04.36 | wethrin | Yow. Uncheap. |
| 16:04.56 | mozrat | not cheap - but very very cool |
| 16:05.31 | wethrin | yeah |
| 16:05.36 | wethrin | Not that hard to build one, though |
| 16:08.12 | mozrat | no? |
| 16:08.21 | wethrin | I don't think so |
| 16:08.33 | mozrat | the rotors are quite complex |
| 16:08.38 | wethrin | You just need to have access to a reasonably skilled metalworker |
| 16:08.55 | mozrat | well - simple in design but the wiring is complex |
| 16:09.18 | wethrin | i supose |
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| 16:20.53 | mozrat | wethrin http://www.enigma-replica.com/ |
| 16:21.45 | wethrin | Not cheap! |
| 16:24.35 | mozrat | wethrin: No, I haven't asked for any |
| 16:24.40 | wethrin | hm |
| 16:24.42 | mozrat | they looked very tempting |
| 16:24.45 | Leeds | 'night all |
| 16:24.49 | mozrat | nn Leeds |
| 16:24.53 | boudiccas | Leeds; night :) |
| 16:25.05 | mozrat | ooh boudiccas |
| 16:25.17 | boudiccas | sounds suspicious |
| 16:25.22 | wethrin | Yes, if I was still around London, I'd be very tempting |
| 16:25.27 | wethrin | um |
| 16:25.27 | wethrin | tempted |
| 16:25.30 | boudiccas | i didn't do it, and i wasn't even there |
| 16:25.48 | mozrat | prove it |
| 16:26.04 | boudiccas | i claim the fifth amendment |
| 16:26.27 | boudiccas | and me mum won't let me out to play |
| 16:26.35 | wethrin | is boudiccas USian? :) |
| 16:26.35 | cbz | What were the prices? |
| 16:26.41 | wethrin | cbz: free |
| 16:26.48 | boudiccas | wethrin; no, i'm in kent |
| 16:27.11 | cbz | What sort of servers? |
| 16:27.12 | wethrin | they abide by the 5th Amendment to the US Constitution there? :) |
| 16:27.12 | mozrat | the garden of England |
| 16:27.18 | wethrin | cbz: 4U rackmount. PC stuff |
| 16:27.22 | wethrin | RTFList :) |
| 16:27.28 | mozrat | boudiccas: I was a Kentopian for 5 years |
| 16:27.43 | boudiccas | mozrat; down in dover weren't you? :) |
| 16:27.57 | mozrat | yes! Did I tell you that already? |
| 16:28.02 | murb | wethrin: well if someone pleads the 5th they should just be locked up on principle. |
| 16:28.04 | mozrat | I forget who I bore and in what order :) |
| 16:28.06 | boudiccas | good memory :) |
| 16:28.35 | wethrin | mozrat: Were you guarding our country against the French? |
| 16:28.46 | cbz | Dell somethings? |
| 16:28.50 | wethrin | No idea |
| 16:28.55 | mozrat | wethrin: hehehe - unofficially maybe |
| 16:29.06 | wethrin | Good! |
| 16:29.07 | mozrat | have you guys ever heard of DUMPY under Dover Castle? |
| 16:29.13 | wethrin | no? |
| 16:29.17 | mozrat | that is quite interesting - deep deep tunnels |
| 16:29.23 | mozrat | still occupied by the MOD |
| 16:29.29 | boudiccas | mozrat; do you/did you work for HMC&E? |
| 16:29.30 | mozrat | but some of them are open to the public |
| 16:29.42 | cbz | 4U is huge anyway, hosting cost would be exorbitant, and its not particularly convenient for home |
| 16:29.46 | mozrat | boudiccas: no, army |
| 16:29.47 | boudiccas | underground hospital isn't there? |
| 16:29.57 | wethrin | Um. Depends where you host it |
| 16:29.59 | mozrat | boudiccas: that as well I think yeah |
| 16:30.03 | wethrin | GAH |
| 16:30.06 | wethrin | poundhost.com |
| 16:30.10 | boudiccas | never been there though |
| 16:30.52 | mozrat | ooh, there isn't |
| 16:30.55 | boudiccas | dover underground military parking yard = DUMPY |
| 16:34.17 | mozrat | the only problem with living in Dover was that bloody hill |
| 16:34.32 | mozrat | especially if you were poor and your car was busted |
| 16:34.59 | mozrat | wethrin: No, been to Catterick, Darlington, Newcastle, Sunderland |
| 16:35.09 | mozrat | Never Durham |
| 16:35.31 | wethrin | fiend :-P |
| 16:35.36 | wethrin | we have more than one hill |
| 16:36.28 | wethrin | To Dover? |
| 16:36.54 | mozrat | maybe |
| 16:39.06 | cbz | cheaper to get an X1 off ebay and host it at various other colo people |
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| 16:40.12 | cbz | bogons is good. |
| 16:40.14 | wethrin | rhowe!!!!! |
| 16:40.19 | rhowe | evenin' |
| 16:40.22 | wethrin | LTNS |
| 16:40.28 | wethrin | cbz: I'm with Exonetric |
| 16:40.28 | mozrat | Gah, SUSE/Novell sucks |
| 16:40.36 | rhowe | wethrin: LTNInterweb |
| 16:40.38 | mozrat | online_update - fairly important tool? |
| 16:40.46 | wethrin | rhowe: Have you got interweb again at home now? |
| 16:40.57 | SlayerXP | rhowe: mmm? |
| 16:40.58 | wethrin | rhowe: also, will you be at London.pm on the 6th? I will |
| 16:40.59 | mozrat | no man page, no /usr/share/doc/packages directory |
| 16:41.02 | rhowe | I ordered (from UKFSN) last night |
| 16:41.08 | wethrin | rar |
| 16:41.10 | rhowe | SlayerXP: .no not the land of dancing girls you thought it was? |
| 16:41.13 | cbz | wethrin: http://www.bogons.net/network.shtml |
| 16:41.17 | rhowe | wethrin: Should be |
| 16:41.26 | SlayerXP | rhowe: eh? what? que? |
| 16:41.48 | wethrin | rhowe: Goodoh! |
| 16:41.53 | rhowe | SlayerXP: Booked your flight yet? :) |
| 16:42.17 | wethrin | cbz: ay....I was also looking at BlackCat |
| 16:42.24 | SlayerXP | rhowe: what flight? |
| 16:42.37 | rhowe | SlayerXP: You're in Norway, right? |
| 16:42.42 | SlayerXP | i am, yes. |
| 16:43.07 | rhowe | SlayerXP: A little birdie tells me you might be coming back this side of the North sea in the not too distant future |
| 16:43.17 | SlayerXP | oh i see. |
| 16:43.20 | SlayerXP | well, it's possible. |
| 16:43.59 | SlayerXP | i've had a year off, which was the plan, so I'll just have to see where I go from here |
| 16:44.02 | rhowe | I was asked if I knew of a job for you :) |
| 16:44.08 | SlayerXP | by whom? |
| 16:44.17 | rhowe | A guy called Chris Roff |
| 16:44.27 | SlayerXP | oh interesting |
| 16:44.34 | SlayerXP | I used to play badminton with him |
| 16:44.38 | rhowe | Yeah, he said |
| 16:44.43 | rhowe | I'm his sysadmin |
| 16:45.03 | SlayerXP | oh, so _you're_ the guy he kept swearing about :) |
| 16:45.24 | SlayerXP | yeah, Chris and I played for 2-3 years |
| 16:45.28 | rhowe | SlayerXP: Oh I wouldn't say that - could've been my boss! |
| 16:45.47 | SlayerXP | nice bloke, say Hi for me |
| 16:45.59 | SlayerXP | i could equally well do so myself of course |
| 16:46.09 | rhowe | Indeed |
| 16:46.37 | rhowe | I was quite suprised when he walked into the server room saying "guy's looking for a job - got any contacts?" |
| 16:46.43 | rhowe | And saw your name on the email :) |
| 16:46.48 | SlayerXP | heh |
| 16:46.53 | SlayerXP | i have spies everywhere, too |
| 16:47.13 | rhowe | Anyway, I installed irssi especially for you |
| 16:47.20 | SlayerXP | i'm touched |
| 16:48.26 | SlayerXP | 6DOS and all that |
| 16:49.50 | rhowe | Dammit |
| 16:50.16 | SlayerXP | does it have a back bios? |
| 16:50.33 | SlayerXP | wethrin: he has a spare plastic lump in the shape of one, now |
| 16:50.42 | rhowe | It's still alive, it seems |
| 16:50.57 | wethrin | SlayerXP: That'd be slightly under-helpful |
| 16:51.11 | rhowe | seems the error code (FFFA0000) means that it couldn't open the file |
| 16:51.21 | SlayerXP | rhowe: can I assume that you're not looking for a brilliant linux sysadmin, then? :) |
| 16:51.46 | rhowe | SlayerXP: Not at the moment, unfortunately. If you worked here, you'd have to do user support and admin 3 Windows machines too |
| 16:51.55 | SlayerXP | I wouldn't I assure you :) |
| 16:52.18 | SlayerXP | "I can reboot it, or reinstall it for you, which would you like?" is my standard response to windows problems :) |
| 16:52.25 | murb | and live near london? |
| 16:52.30 | rhowe | As your boss, I'd make sure it was part of your contract :) |
| 16:52.33 | rhowe | murb: Yep |
| 16:52.54 | rhowe | murb: Well, he can live where he likes so long as he's at his desk by 0930 :) |
| 16:53.02 | murb | rhowe: he understands basic windows concepts. |
| 16:53.58 | rhowe | I'm sure this HBA's hitting 80degreesC |
| 16:55.10 | wethrin | murb: in UK? |
| 16:55.23 | murb | wethrin: anywhere i'm looking at buying a house. |
| 16:55.30 | murb | wethrin: pref. contract |
| 16:55.34 | wethrin | hmm |
| 16:55.51 | murb | found a house, just need to find 90k euro or so. |
| 16:56.30 | murb | currently not making enough to pay the rent which is causing the house buying find to erode. |
| 16:56.36 | murb | s/find/fund/ |
| 16:56.48 | rhowe | murb: Isn't that the idea of a mortgage? |
| 16:57.08 | murb | rhowe: the idea is you pay as much upfront as possible |
| 16:57.10 | wethrin | you need to demonstrate some income for a mortgatge, though |
| 16:57.45 | murb | then pay less to the evil bankers. |
| 16:58.54 | murb | I'm going to talk to a bank next week about mortgages i suspect it won't be a pleasant experience. |
| 16:59.18 | SlayerXP | not sure now is a great time to buy |
| 17:00.02 | rhowe | aha |
| 17:00.12 | rhowe | updates the HBA's firmware |
| 17:00.33 | rhowe | I got offered around GBP80k for a 90% mortgage |
| 17:00.49 | wethrin | SlayerXP: When is? |
| 17:00.49 | rhowe | Fat lot of use that is in London |
| 17:00.59 | SlayerXP | wethrin: http://www.housepricecrash.co.uk/ |
| 17:01.21 | SlayerXP | i can't complain, I made 70k in 3 years on my house :) |
| 17:02.14 | wethrin | SlayerXP: According to the graph, never :) |
| 17:02.42 | SlayerXP | next time I have a mortgage, I'll overpay |
| 17:02.57 | SlayerXP | not that I'll need one. what with all you lot paying me to filter your spam for you. |
| 17:06.31 | SlayerXP | that won't help you, cluster1 is in london :) |
| 17:10.39 | murb | SlayerXP: do you have a cluster in any places that care about privacy? |
| 17:10.48 | murb | and don't understand the concept of lawful interception? |
| 17:11.05 | SlayerXP | I don't understand thw question. |
| 17:11.14 | SlayerXP | the |
| 17:12.10 | SlayerXP | norwegian privacy laws are very strict |
| 17:12.17 | SlayerXP | (in favour of the person) |
| 17:14.02 | murb | SlayerXP: and tax returns are public? |
| 17:15.14 | SlayerXP | pass, I know very little about tax law here |
| 17:20.27 | rhowe | That HBA gets too damn hot for its own good |
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| 22:10.20 | Kitty | win 36 |
| 22:11.15 | Kitty | thanks wethrin |
| 22:11.21 | wethrin | np |
| 22:11.24 | wethrin | The first slash is free |
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| 22:21.44 | ldnblk | anybody still awake ? |
| 22:21.46 | George | hi |
| 22:21.48 | wethrin | yes |
| 22:21.58 | ldnblk | good evening all |
| 22:22.16 | George | it's 6:15 am here |
| 22:22.17 | ldnblk | how ya doing george/wethrin ?? |
| 22:22.17 | George | bleh |
| 22:22.30 | ldnblk | where are u george ? |
| 22:22.34 | George | taiwan |
| 22:22.56 | wethrin | I'm okay |
| 22:22.57 | ldnblk | very intresting , holiday or business ? |
| 22:23.03 | George | hahaha business. |
| 22:23.15 | ldnblk | what part of the world are u in wethrin ? |
| 22:23.33 | wethrin | Durham |
| 22:23.42 | George | ie - hell |
| 22:23.45 | wethrin | ! |
| 22:24.01 | ldnblk | have u got enough room in your luggage for a dual processor machine ? |
| 22:24.09 | George | me? |
| 22:24.10 | wethrin | maaaybe |
| 22:24.15 | ldnblk | should be able to get it real cheap there :_) |
| 22:24.17 | wethrin | oh |
| 22:24.18 | wethrin | him |
| 22:24.27 | George | heh |
| 22:24.28 | wethrin | You're not giving one away, then :) |
| 22:24.41 | ldnblk | whats the weather like up there in duhram wetherin ? |
| 22:24.43 | George | I'm maybe going to buy an athlon64 x2 |
| 22:24.46 | wethrin | Dark :) |
| 22:25.03 | wethrin | ldnblk: Did you see the email to the Gllug list a few days back about free rack-mount stuff? |
| 22:25.07 | wethrin | But it was a nice day |
| 22:25.15 | ldnblk | whats the tempreture like ? is it raining ? is it windy ? blah ? |
| 22:25.22 | George | who cares about the weather... |
| 22:25.25 | George | it's "airconned" :P |
| 22:25.59 | ldnblk | wetherin: no i did not see your email please tell me more ? |
| 22:26.55 | ldnblk | wetherin: suppose i will look your website tomorrow |
| 22:27.32 | ldnblk | wetherin: do you have a website link to your email ? |
| 22:27.40 | wethrin | 8.6C outside |
| 22:27.48 | wethrin | ldnblk: Not my email |
| 22:28.21 | ldnblk | wetherin: so its quite mild tonight yet again |
| 22:28.25 | wethrin | Yeah |
| 22:28.42 | ldnblk | wetherin: what did your email say ? |
| 22:28.57 | wethrin | Email from Richard Jones, March 28th |
| 22:29.03 | wethrin | so yesterday, in fact |
| 22:29.46 | ldnblk | wetherin: i am using the internet using gprs so its kind of expensive to surf now |
| 22:30.17 | ldnblk | wetherin: tommorrow maybe i will search and look at your message |
| 22:30.23 | wethrin | It's not my message |
| 22:30.53 | ldnblk | wetherin: well whose message is it ? |
| 22:31.01 | wethrin | Email from Richard Jones, March 28th |
| 22:31.01 | z00dax | wethrin, anything interesting in that stuff ? |
| 22:31.17 | wethrin | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:31.18 | wethrin | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:31.18 | wethrin | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:31.18 | wethrin | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:31.18 | wethrin | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:31.53 | ldnblk | wetherin: oh thanks 4 that |
| 22:31.55 | z00dax | I worked over irc to help a guy setup a project - spending > 20 hrs over a weeks time to help him customise a distro and setup something like asterisk@home, and now he says his boss wont open source it... all along saying that his work is all gpl |
| 22:32.06 | z00dax | about 20 min back, his svn repo went offline as well |
| 22:32.11 | wethrin | bastard! |
| 22:32.29 | wethrin | Throw a heavy computer at him |
| 22:32.45 | z00dax | wethrin, he's in .it |
| 22:32.54 | wethrin | Drop it from a plane |
| 22:33.01 | wethrin | He probably has a beard too |
| 22:33.05 | wethrin | Never trust a man with a beard |
| 22:34.13 | z00dax | i _know_ he is going to sell the stuff... |
| 22:34.34 | z00dax | which is what makes me madder' - if he was only doing this for inhouse use, i might not be mad at all |
| 22:35.11 | z00dax | btw, those 4U box's might be handy - just for their case + power supply |
| 22:35.34 | wethrin | z00dax: You think you might get some? |
| 22:35.51 | z00dax | wethrin, do you know anything about these ? |
| 22:36.01 | wethrin | Nope. RTFML :) |
| 22:36.18 | wethrin | They're in Battersea |
| 22:36.48 | z00dax | right.. i saw that - but the reason you were mentioning them.... (!) |
| 22:37.04 | wethrin | ldnblk asked about cheap hardware |
| 22:37.17 | z00dax | I'd like to get a rack if I could - not sure if that would fit in my car |
| 22:37.26 | wethrin | roofrack! |
| 22:37.28 | z00dax | wethrin, ah... |
| 22:37.34 | z00dax | i dont have one of those... |
| 22:37.46 | z00dax | i have a mondeo hatchback... |
| 22:37.48 | wethrin | I'd like a rack, but don't have space at home. |
| 22:37.53 | ldnblk | wetherin: at real give away prices :-) |
| 22:37.54 | wethrin | Hmm.....estate would be better |
| 22:38.48 | z00dax | hummm |
| 22:38.53 | wethrin | But if you put the seats down... |
| 22:39.01 | wethrin | mondeo's are reasonably large, aren't they? |
| 22:39.16 | z00dax | i can get a ikea 3 seater sofa in the back |
| 22:39.35 | wethrin | A full-size rack is 6'something |
| 22:39.44 | wethrin | 48U = 48*1.75" |
| 22:39.48 | z00dax | humm a 44 |
| 22:39.50 | wethrin | ibot can work it out |
| 22:39.52 | z00dax | 48 rather |
| 22:39.59 | wethrin | ibot 3+2 |
| 22:40.01 | ibot | 5 |
| 22:40.08 | wethrin | ibot convert cm to in |
| 22:40.15 | wethrin | ibot convert U to in |
| 22:40.29 | wethrin | bah. it doesn't know about U |
| 22:40.37 | wethrin | ibot 48*1.75 |
| 22:40.39 | ibot | 84 |
| 22:40.42 | wethrin | ibot 84/12 |
| 22:40.44 | ibot | 7 |
| 22:40.45 | z00dax | 2.14 m ? |
| 22:40.52 | wethrin | 7' of rack |
| 22:40.55 | z00dax | ok... |
| 22:40.56 | z00dax | humm |
| 22:41.00 | wethrin | ibot convert 7 foot to m |
| 22:41.01 | z00dax | and 19" wide |
| 22:41.05 | wethrin | yeah |
| 22:41.16 | z00dax | i am sure i could get one into the car |
| 22:41.21 | wethrin | good man! |
| 22:41.31 | z00dax | if not, will take my tool along will dismantle it and store |
| 22:41.43 | wethrin | Any chance you could pick up a KVM + some cable sets for me? :) |
| 22:41.46 | z00dax | s/tool/tools |
| 22:41.53 | z00dax | wethrin, sure can |
| 22:41.57 | wethrin | w00t! |
| 22:41.58 | wethrin | Thanks! |
| 22:42.09 | z00dax | let me email the guy and ask him to keep some handy for me - i can make the trek on Friday |
| 22:42.17 | z00dax | are you going to be at the Lonix meet ? |
| 22:42.23 | wethrin | When's Lonix? |
| 22:42.27 | wethrin | Please don't say the 6th... |
| 22:42.42 | z00dax | next wednesday |
| 22:42.49 | wethrin | No. I'll still be up in Durham then |
| 22:42.55 | wethrin | Tushar organised it too late! |
| 22:43.05 | wethrin | I'll be at London.pm on Thursday, though |
| 22:43.30 | ldnblk | where is the venue 4 next weds ? |
| 22:43.40 | z00dax | hummm... |
| 22:43.45 | z00dax | well i can keep them safe and warm |
| 22:44.06 | ldnblk | where is london.pm ? |
| 22:44.26 | murb | where is google |
| 22:44.27 | murb | ? |
| 22:44.35 | wethrin | The Maple Leaf, Covent Garden |
| 22:44.42 | wethrin | Don't know about Lonix |
| 22:44.58 | wethrin | I'm sure it's on the mailing lists |
| 22:45.16 | wethrin | Actually, I don't recall an PM announcement going out |
| 22:49.59 | ldnblk | night all |
| 22:50.34 | wethrin | Mmmm. Porterhouse |
| 22:50.37 | ldnblk | thanks 4 the info |
| 22:50.39 | wethrin | nigh ldnblk |
| 23:50.57 | wethrin | hi George |
| 23:51.50 | George | hi wethrin |
| 23:51.52 | George | buy me an X40 |
| 23:51.53 | George | now. |
| 23:51.55 | wethrin | no |
| 23:51.57 | wethrin | I'm too poor |
| 23:51.59 | George | why not? |
| 23:52.00 | George | liar |
| 23:52.07 | George | sell your stomach for cooking fat |
| 23:52.10 | wethrin | Okay |
| 23:52.55 | George | :D |
| 23:53.00 | George | and then buy me an X40 |
| 23:53.15 | wethrin | ha |
| 23:53.16 | wethrin | night! |
| 23:53.41 | George | go away then. |
| 23:55.22 | George | win 32 |
| 23:55.58 | Erwin | You have a t43, what do you need an x40 for ? |
| 23:56.18 | George | Erwin: I have a t43p. |