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00:19.42 | George | "Now, it's a very difficult job and the only way to get through it, is, we all work together as a team. And that means you do everything I say." |
00:51.37 | angelchild | what's that from again? |
00:52.29 | z00dax | sounds like my last boss |
00:56.08 | angelchild | ah, the italian job |
00:56.11 | angelchild | hi z00dax :) |
00:56.24 | z00dax | hey angelchild |
00:56.55 | z00dax | how'se life down in s'hampton |
00:58.59 | angelchild | life's cool! I started a games development society :D |
00:59.29 | z00dax | yay! |
00:59.34 | z00dax | need any beta testers ? |
00:59.42 | angelchild | hehe, it's more of a show and tell kinda thing |
01:00.04 | angelchild | with a set presentation to begin each week |
01:00.17 | angelchild | it's kinda cool because we've got a couple of the lecturers to agree to do it too :) |
01:02.07 | z00dax | humm.. show and tell.. |
01:02.24 | z00dax | lecturers doing a show and tell.... |
01:02.36 | z00dax | is all this legal ? :p |
01:36.10 | angelchild | you suck :) |
01:37.09 | z00dax | :( |
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07:41.27 | morsing_ | Hey |
07:41.29 | morsing_ | personal |
07:41.33 | morsing_ | ?! |
07:41.56 | morsing_ | How do I steal a screen session that is attached somewhere else? |
07:43.19 | murb | screen -dr |
07:50.49 | morsing_ | Thanks |
07:50.58 | morsing | Great! |
07:51.04 | morsing | Anyone awake yet? |
07:51.32 | morsing | I got booted out from work yesterday. |
07:52.51 | murb | why? |
07:53.14 | morsing | "conflict of interests" or something |
07:53.39 | morsing | I have NO phone now and didn't get a chance to copy any numbers from it! |
07:53.53 | murb | :( |
07:56.17 | morsing | Why are you up so early? |
07:56.22 | morsing | Enjoying your tea? |
08:25.20 | SlammerXP | morning |
08:29.03 | SlammerXP | another 2 weeks and my first mail filtering box will get its 10,000th message |
08:32.00 | morsing | Nice |
08:32.22 | SlammerXP | i need more domains for it |
08:32.42 | SlammerXP | http://mx.hinterlands.org/~martin/report-hinterlands.html |
08:33.05 | SlammerXP | ufo_: kps p: kps |
08:33.12 | SlammerXP | "u:" that should be |
08:50.27 | morsing | Check it! |
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09:53.27 | George | moo |
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11:05.19 | murb | morsing: they didn't give you any other reason? are they claiming gross misconduct or something? |
11:09.12 | morsing | murb: No |
11:09.23 | morsing | murb: It's quite normal practice... |
11:10.17 | murb | do you have anything else at the moment to fall back on? |
11:13.54 | SlayerXP | morsing: been given the boot? |
11:14.10 | SlayerXP | EKS are always first against the fall |
11:14.17 | SlayerXP | eerrr wall |
11:15.55 | murb | SlayerXP: a long fall? |
11:16.14 | SlayerXP | i'm assuming morsing is EKS |
11:16.20 | SlayerXP | if not it's a pain |
11:16.20 | murb | with a hemp necktie for safety? |
11:18.34 | morsing | murb: Well, my Barclaycard role starts in three weeks |
11:18.48 | murb | morsing: oh you'd already given notice? |
11:18.57 | morsing | And no, I'll be paid up until yesterday and nothing more |
11:19.01 | morsing | murb: Yes |
11:19.15 | morsing | So, I'll be unpaid for three weeks |
11:19.22 | morsing | which will cost me a lot... |
11:19.24 | SlayerXP | errm, what does your contract say about that? |
11:19.39 | murb | and are the terms in your contract legal? |
11:19.45 | morsing | SlayerXP: Well, I'd have thought they have to pay me three months salary? |
11:19.48 | murb | morsing: you don't have any unspent holiday or anything? |
11:19.57 | morsing | murb: Only three days |
11:20.00 | SlayerXP | morsing: it depends on your contract |
11:20.16 | murb | morsing: well you should be able to atleast get some money for them. |
11:20.17 | morsing | SlayerXP: My contract says they have to give me three months notice |
11:20.25 | SlayerXP | and did they? |
11:20.36 | morsing | No, 20minutes |
11:20.40 | murb | SlayerXP: well he already gave them notice iiuc |
11:21.16 | morsing | ibot iiuc |
11:21.17 | ibot | i heard iiuc is \"If I understand correctly\" |
11:21.22 | morsing | Yes |
11:21.31 | SlayerXP | morsing: then write them a letter, sent by special delivery, that either they pay you 3 month salary as per your contract, or you'll be taking them to court |
11:21.55 | SlayerXP | if their HR department has even the slightest clue, they will pay up |
11:22.01 | murb | morsing: are you a member of a union? |
11:22.08 | morsing | SlayerXP: The problem is that I didn't stick to my side of the contract |
11:22.11 | morsing | murb: No |
11:22.16 | SlayerXP | morsing: in what way? |
11:22.26 | morsing | I only gave them 5 weeks notice |
11:23.01 | SlayerXP | employment law is actually stacked up well in your favour |
11:23.14 | morsing | SlayerXP: I know. What should I do? |
11:23.29 | murb | SlayerXP: people are normally too timid to use it. |
11:23.30 | SlayerXP | write them a letter, something along the lines of |
11:23.33 | SlayerXP | Dear Sir |
11:24.25 | SlayerXP | I have sought legal advice regarding this issue and I don't beleive that you have the right to withold payment of my salary for my outstanding notice period" |
11:25.50 | SlayerXP | dress it up a bit, but that's the core. |
11:28.08 | z00dax | $TZ Greetings |
11:28.19 | z00dax | SlayerXP, hola |
11:28.28 | z00dax | howse life in the bedian world ? |
11:29.32 | SlayerXP | bedian? |
11:30.43 | SlayerXP | i rock, it's official. |
11:30.57 | SlayerXP | i have per-domain greylisting and spam thresholds working in exim |
11:31.42 | murb | SlayerXP: not per user@domain? |
11:32.01 | SlayerXP | antibody has no concept of users. |
11:32.16 | SlayerXP | (deliberately) |
11:32.23 | murb | can you white list email to postmaster? |
11:32.33 | SlayerXP | yes |
11:33.03 | SlayerXP | or, rather, you can say that certian addresses in each domain are not spam checked/virus checked/greylist |
11:33.13 | SlayerXP | ed |
11:33.46 | SlayerXP | likewise you can say certain senders are never spam checked/virus checked/greylisted |
11:36.04 | morsing | z00dax! |
11:38.17 | z00dax | morsing! |
11:41.50 | z00dax | check it! |
11:45.04 | morsing | What's the phone area code for Windsor? |
11:46.18 | SlayerXP | 707 |
11:46.52 | z00dax | 01753 |
11:46.59 | SlayerXP | or 01753 if you mean the UK |
11:47.03 | z00dax | 707's are personal redirect numbers |
11:47.45 | MacRohard | windsor ontario? |
11:47.48 | SlayerXP | 01753 |
11:47.50 | SlayerXP | arrgh |
11:49.01 | MacRohard | nah. that's 519 |
11:49.54 | morsing | z00dax: Thanks, I had a number starting with 07153. |
11:50.05 | morsing | He obviously put 71instead of 17 |
11:50.41 | z00dax | morsing, consider it checked |
11:51.16 | morsing | :-) |
12:03.20 | morsing | *sigh* |
12:09.49 | wethrin | morning |
12:10.55 | George | sausages and CREAM!!!! |
12:12.40 | z00dax | morning |
12:13.02 | George | hey z00dax |
12:13.05 | George | z00dax: get a new nickname |
12:13.16 | z00dax | George, whats wrong with this one ? |
12:13.22 | z00dax | its only 12 years old now |
12:13.32 | George | z00dax: it's got 00 in it |
12:13.37 | George | z00dax: how old were you 12 years ago? |
12:17.12 | z00dax | i was $Present_Age - 12 |
12:17.43 | z00dax | which would make me 17 at the time |
12:17.59 | George | z00dax: hah |
12:18.08 | z00dax | i only have 8 finges and 2 thumbs, took me a while to work it out |
12:42.01 | morsing | wethrin! |
12:43.42 | wethrin | morsing! |
12:43.51 | morsing | wethrin: Did you hear the news? |
12:43.57 | wethrin | morsing: Which news? |
12:44.13 | morsing | Camelot kicked me out yesterday |
12:44.17 | wethrin | oh :-( |
12:44.18 | wethrin | Why? |
12:44.23 | wethrin | What happened? |
12:44.28 | morsing | I'm a free man with three weeks holiday :-) |
12:44.31 | wethrin | And you were leaving anyway, weren't you? |
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12:44.36 | wethrin | This is a good thing? |
12:44.43 | morsing | wethrin: We couldn't agree on my leaving date and they got upset! |
12:44.47 | wethrin | morsing: Oops |
12:44.49 | morsing | wethrin: Well, yes. |
12:44.50 | wethrin | Never mind, eh :) |
12:44.54 | morsing | It was my choice |
12:45.14 | wethrin | Ahh |
12:45.21 | morsing | wethrin: I could actually come up for a few days if you're not too busy? |
12:45.46 | wethrin | morsing: When? After term ends I won't be so busy |
12:45.55 | wethrin | So if you can wait another couple of weeks... :) |
12:46.00 | morsing | Well, during the next three weeks |
12:47.33 | wethrin | Yeah, I think that can be manageable |
12:47.52 | wethrin | Maybe weekend after next? |
12:48.07 | morsing | wethrin: Sounds good |
12:48.22 | morsing | I haven't got a phone though or your number |
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12:48.31 | morsing | Steve! |
12:48.43 | wethrin | morsing: Oh. I can give you my number. But you should get a phone :) |
12:49.02 | morsing | wethrin: I'll get one when I start at Barclaycard |
12:49.06 | wethrin | Okay :) |
12:50.21 | morsing | Has anyone here been to the peak district? |
12:50.27 | wethrin | yes |
12:51.01 | morsing | Where to stay overnight? |
12:51.05 | morsing | What to see? |
12:52.39 | wethrin | I can try and book you in to the Vic |
12:52.49 | wethrin | Very nice pub/B&B |
12:53.04 | psnl | pub mainly |
12:53.13 | wethrin | Ah. psnl's alive |
12:53.41 | morsing | wethrin: Link? |
12:53.46 | morsing | psnl! |
12:53.47 | wethrin | I don't think there is one |
12:54.04 | George | what hostname should I give my new VM? |
12:54.07 | wethrin | Other than the Cathedral, I'm not sure what else there is to see |
12:54.11 | wethrin | George: twatwaffle |
12:54.26 | psnl | wethrin: I'm not just alive, I'm talking elsenet |
12:54.51 | wethrin | Do some work! :-P |
12:54.58 | psnl | morsing: the Vic, as suggested by the name, is not a tendy location |
12:56.05 | morsing | B&B? |
12:56.46 | wethrin | Bed & Breakfast |
12:57.17 | psnl | wethrin: while you are alive, come pick up the e4k |
12:57.24 | wethrin | psnl: When I have space! |
12:57.39 | wethrin | psnl: Would you like some bits of an iPod? |
12:57.56 | psnl | how much of your shelf broke? |
12:58.23 | wethrin | The shelf did't |
12:58.28 | wethrin | Things just fell off it |
12:58.43 | psnl | was the ipod one of them? |
12:58.45 | wethrin | The iPod broke some time ago. But it has a battery pack and a 10GB hard disk |
12:58.46 | wethrin | No |
12:59.02 | psnl | um, yeah, sure |
12:59.13 | wethrin | You can get adapters to make the hard disk work with a 2.5" IDE connector |
12:59.24 | wethrin | Right, excellent |
12:59.50 | highbury | hi folks |
12:59.50 | wethrin | It doesn't have a case or a screen. Don't know what happened to the screen |
12:59.56 | wethrin | highbury! |
13:00.57 | murb | highbury: no internet access in oxfordshire? |
13:02.19 | highbury | hopefully I will have, but I'm probably going to be off air for a week or so, I need to get homechoice disconnected here, and a new ISP where I'm moving to |
13:02.35 | highbury | but they only have 1Mb, since its a remote village |
13:03.41 | highbury | anybody know about plusnet? as an ISP |
13:07.59 | murb | they've had a certain amount of bad press, but which isp hasn't/ |
13:08.27 | murb | killing idle PPP sessions and things like that are policy. |
13:08.48 | psnl | wethrin: you heading into town at some point today? |
13:09.15 | wethrin | psnl: Wasn't really planning to, but I suppose a walk could be good for me |
13:09.22 | murb | s/are/where when i last read about it/ |
13:09.27 | murb | but see adslguide.org.uk |
13:10.06 | psnl | wethrin: how about nowish? |
13:10.12 | George | cpu MHz : 2992.799 |
13:10.33 | murb | oh and beware of anything that describes itself as a "fair use policy" |
13:11.15 | George | model name : Intel(R) Xeon(TM) CPU 3.00GHz |
13:11.17 | George | :D |
13:11.32 | wethrin | psnl: Hmm. 15-20 minutes? |
13:12.28 | psnl | wethrin: leaving then, or arriving then? |
13:12.41 | wethrin | leaving. Or are you in need of going right now? |
13:13.29 | highbury | they almopst all have fair use policies :-( |
13:13.42 | psnl | nah, 20 mins is fine |
13:13.47 | wethrin | Okay :) |
13:30.56 | wethrin | yarr... |
13:31.14 | wethrin | Web browsers are being cunts |
13:32.45 | psnl | come to town! |
13:33.55 | rhowe | bye bye siksai.co.uk |
13:34.17 | wethrin | When/if the web browser stops being a FUCKING CUNT |
13:36.55 | George | hahahahahaha |
13:38.24 | psnl | wethrin: haven't you given up yet? |
13:38.48 | wethrin | Apparently the hateful thing isn't going to work |
13:38.50 | wethrin | Software-- |
13:39.21 | wethrin | Right |
13:39.29 | wethrin | psnl: I can leave now. When will you leave? |
13:39.37 | psnl | now |
13:39.43 | wethrin | Okay |
13:39.46 | psnl | gilesgate++ |
13:39.46 | wethrin | Meet where? |
13:39.52 | wethrin | gilesgate-- |
13:39.53 | wethrin | :) |
13:39.57 | psnl | um, coffee |
13:40.02 | wethrin | Nero? |
13:40.06 | psnl | nice to see that gilesgate is batting normal |
13:40.08 | psnl | yes |
13:40.45 | wethrin | How long does it take you to walk down? |
13:40.54 | psnl | about 20 mins |
13:41.02 | wethrin | Right. See you there in about 25-30, then |
13:43.42 | murb | highbury: well fwiw i use eclipse in the uk althought they don't seem to be the cheapest. |
13:44.32 | murb | i think 20 quid for 1 mb unlimited / month. |
14:36.21 | morsing | Beer |
14:43.09 | murb | more beer |
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14:52.02 | morsing | Tea |
14:56.24 | murb | gute idee. |
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15:33.29 | zachary | g'afternoon. |
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15:34.02 | george_ | :D |
15:34.12 | morsing | zachary! |
15:35.09 | zachary | hey morsing! |
15:35.40 | zachary | afternoon George. |
15:35.40 | George | hey zachary |
15:42.48 | george_ | I have a cool reverse dns :D |
15:43.00 | morsing | Do you? |
15:44.06 | George | yes |
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15:46.50 | SlammerXP | err, no, you don't. |
15:50.47 | George | er, yes I do |
15:50.49 | George | mwahahahaha |
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16:00.12 | morsing | stephen_, Gonzo! |
16:05.59 | stephen_ | howdi |
16:06.45 | mozrat | hello |
16:08.24 | George | mozrat: know much about TUN/TAP? |
16:08.41 | mozrat | George, not a lot, no. |
16:08.51 | George | mozrat: useless. |
16:09.03 | mozrat | dont be so hard on yourself |
16:09.08 | morsing | mozrat! |
16:09.23 | mozrat | hi morsing! fancy seeing you here!! |
16:41.40 | wethrin | Mmm. Spam. |
16:55.38 | SlammerXP | <fx>tumbleweed</fx> |
16:55.56 | wethrin | BURN IT! |
16:57.31 | SlammerXP | so, Herr Wethrin, will you be truning your MX records over to me then? :) |
16:58.32 | wethrin | SlammerXP: I have my own, thanks |
16:58.43 | SlammerXP | bah, any excuse. |
16:59.07 | wethrin | And I have 2 other MX records |
17:00.43 | eye69 | Hmmmm...anybody else had problems with SNMP interface statistics on 2.6.14? |
17:04.13 | eye69 | Nevermind... |
17:04.21 | SlammerXP | single network manglement protocol |
17:11.47 | morsing | Check it! |
17:14.14 | murb | SlammerXP: you want to read peoples email? |
17:14.17 | murb | like postini do? |
17:14.44 | SlammerXP | i was tempted to suggest that it was very unlikely that any GLLUG members were intereting enough to make me want to do so |
17:16.30 | eye69 | Argh, fucking thing. |
18:09.06 | morsing | Beer |
18:23.16 | wethrin | mm. Beer |
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18:33.52 | mozrat | hi |
18:36.21 | George | hey mozrat |
18:37.02 | George | hrmm |
18:37.41 | George | I have a virtual server! :D |
18:45.14 | mozrat | excellent |
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18:46.39 | George | mozrat: I even have a snazzy reverse dns. mwahahaha. |
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19:41.52 | George | hey ldnblk |
19:46.20 | morsing | beer |
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20:27.03 | morsing | George |
20:27.05 | morsing | ! |
20:27.44 | George | hey |
20:27.44 | George | what? |
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21:56.34 | George | harhar. |
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