| 00:21.38 | angelchild | i would |
| 00:21.43 | angelchild | but i'm a rather long way away |
| 00:25.47 | George | hi |
| 00:26.56 | George | wethrin: #I still use ntp2.ja.net |
| 00:33.55 | George | I love you too |
| 00:37.16 | wethrin | angelchild: not when you're back in Amersham! |
| 00:37.19 | gregj | he is already down, I kicked him |
| 00:37.24 | wethrin | heh |
| 00:37.40 | gregj | while watching angelchild being after George |
| 00:38.36 | George | awwwwwww |
| 00:38.42 | George | cutie |
| 00:39.15 | angelchild | :o |
| 00:39.18 | angelchild | meeeeeeeeeeeep |
| 00:39.41 | George | hahaha |
| 00:45.33 | George | die horribly |
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| 00:47.20 | z00dax | go on |
| 00:49.22 | wethrin | the doc's what? |
| 00:49.49 | z00dax | you can get a titanum skull cap embedded under the scalp |
| 00:49.58 | wethrin | What a good idea |
| 00:50.05 | wethrin | does it act like a Faraday cage? |
| 00:50.10 | z00dax | although with a shovel being swung around, id prolly have a broken neck |
| 00:50.32 | z00dax | wethrin, no idea - be a good test though |
| 00:50.58 | wethrin | indeed |
| 00:51.18 | z00dax | http://www.boingboing.net/images/tinfoilhaton.jpg |
| 00:51.30 | z00dax | :) |
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| 00:57.17 | wethrin | Mm. Bulldog |
| 01:00.55 | z00dax | has anyone got that 8mb adsl upgrade as yet ? |
| 01:01.18 | George | I will do in march |
| 01:05.42 | z00dax | George, whats happening in march ? |
| 01:05.58 | z00dax | or is that when you exchange is due for the upgrade |
| 01:07.06 | George | yes |
| 01:07.13 | George | righ, bed |
| 01:07.20 | George | gprs is getting annoying |
| 01:07.26 | wethrin | GPRS? |
| 01:07.28 | wethrin | Why? |
| 01:12.07 | wethrin | night |
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| 02:15.57 | pawel | hi |
| 02:16.04 | z00dax | pawel, |
| 02:16.37 | pawel | z00dax: hi. |
| 02:16.45 | pawel | how are you doing guys? |
| 02:17.39 | pawel | anyone a cup of coffee? :> |
| 02:18.12 | pawel | I am making some, can find a spare mug. ;> |
| 02:18.38 | z00dax | i could really use a cup of coffee |
| 02:21.31 | Leedshome | angelchild: you think *you're* a long way away? |
| 02:22.01 | Leedshome | hey, pawel! |
| 02:24.28 | pawel | Leedshome: hi! |
| 02:24.40 | pawel | Leedshome: how are you? |
| 02:24.50 | pawel | Leedshome: back in London? |
| 02:25.22 | Leedshome | not quite London, no |
| 02:25.50 | Leedshome | I'm pretty good - slightly hungover from last night, and still firmly in Hong Kong :-) |
| 02:25.52 | pawel | Leedshome: oh, I am confused by your nick, define home. |
| 02:25.57 | pawel | ah. |
| 02:26.03 | pawel | is that your new home? |
| 02:29.57 | Leedshome | home == !work |
| 02:30.34 | Leedshome | yup, HK is home for a while - don't know how long a while is yet... how's things with you? |
| 02:34.25 | pawel | Leedshome: well, not bad. first of all I've got engaged, then there is a lot of coding, focusing on my own business, issues with the car. |
| 02:36.12 | z00dax | its only half 2 |
| 02:36.19 | z00dax | plenty of high productivity hours left yet |
| 02:37.53 | pawel | yeah, especially when you sleep for 15 hours in total during a whole week. |
| 02:38.18 | Leedshome | guys - it's 10:30 on Sunday morning... |
| 02:38.31 | Leedshome | congrats on the engaged, anyway :-) |
| 02:38.38 | pawel | Leedshome: no! I will sleep tonight! |
| 02:39.23 | Leedshome | too late - in Hong Kong Saturday night is dead and gone! |
| 02:39.46 | pawel | Leedshome: well, thanks. I hope that this is the right one, because things are going to change even further. |
| 02:41.27 | Leedshome | how so? |
| 02:46.32 | pawel | Leedshome: mortgage, moving away. all sorts of things. |
| 02:47.43 | Leedshome | ah, that sort of thing... where are you moving? |
| 02:49.34 | pawel | Leedshome: maybe Scotland, or maybe back to Poland or even Sweden where I have been offered a job. |
| 02:50.39 | pawel | Leedshome: but I quite enjoy crowdy london. |
| 02:51.19 | pawel | I need to focus on a property, which is not an easy task in london. |
| 02:53.15 | Leedshome | hong kong contains the most densely-populated land mass in the world - one of the smaller islands, which has something like 15,000 residents... |
| 02:53.47 | Leedshome | plus, of a total population of about 7 million, about 6.9 million seem to congregate on a single street in Mong Kok on the weekend :-) |
| 02:55.22 | Leedshome | I'm sorry - that's 80,000 residents in 1.3km^2 |
| 02:56.35 | Leedshome | http://maps.google.com/maps?ll=22.238860,114.155245&spn=0.016823,0.027766&t=k&hl=en |
| 02:59.04 | Leedshome | half the island is undeveloped! |
| 02:59.57 | pawel | cool, I might visit it in the future. |
| 03:00.07 | pawel | I've always wanted. |
| 03:00.15 | pawel | never been to asia. |
| 03:00.28 | z00dax | some of those buildings are going to be very high |
| 03:01.05 | pawel | or even old. ;> |
| 03:01.22 | pawel | I found today that google holds quite old maps. |
| 03:01.42 | pawel | my block doesn't exist on thier pics. |
| 03:01.48 | z00dax | 1999 was the year mentioned at a get together recently |
| 03:02.05 | pawel | and it is 7 years old. |
| 03:02.06 | z00dax | ( for maps in the UK ) |
| 03:02.21 | pawel | well. |
| 03:02.29 | pawel | It might be just about it. |
| 03:02.31 | pawel | 7-8. |
| 03:02.39 | pawel | eariler then 99. |
| 03:02.46 | pawel | anyway. :) |
| 03:02.47 | z00dax | ah, parts of it are older then ( the maps.google.co.uk ) |
| 03:02.55 | pawel | still handy. |
| 03:03.21 | pawel | esecially routes for driving and getting around. |
| 03:03.30 | z00dax | its given me wrong directions often |
| 03:04.07 | pawel | oh, I mostly use it only for ver |
| 03:04.19 | pawel | oh, I mostly use it only for very close distances. |
| 03:04.34 | pawel | like shops, buildings which I can't spot in A-Z. |
| 03:04.35 | pawel | ;> |
| 03:04.40 | z00dax | mapquest is also often wrong, maybe about the same as maps.google |
| 03:05.31 | pawel | ha. I've got my blocker to do what I want. |
| 03:05.32 | pawel | ;> |
| 03:05.53 | z00dax | pawel, if you want to buy - buy in Tunbridge Wells |
| 03:05.53 | pawel | handy tool, it blocks all the spammers, abusers, kiddies etc. |
| 03:05.56 | z00dax | its nice out that way |
| 03:06.22 | pawel | I can access it using website or console. |
| 03:06.38 | pawel | all stuff is kept in mysql. |
| 03:07.22 | pawel | this fuckin' viagra is making my head off. |
| 03:07.29 | pawel | I hate this spam so much... |
| 03:13.00 | pawel | Leedshome: oh. |
| 03:13.18 | pawel | Leedshome: and btw. I have move to Debian. ;> |
| 03:13.25 | pawel | s/move/moved/ |
| 03:13.38 | pawel | oh. |
| 03:41.24 | Leedshome | they updated a bunch of their maps last month |
| 03:41.35 | Leedshome | (for anyone still awake) |
| 03:42.11 | z00dax | Leedshome, in my area they updated from May 1998 to Aug 1999 |
| 03:42.19 | z00dax | and added another 2 zoom levels |
| 03:43.06 | Leedshome | I don't know when they updated HK to - but it's not *that* recent - and they added at least one extra level |
| 03:43.20 | Leedshome | http://maps.google.com/maps?t=k&hl=en&ll=22.279328,114.152133&spn=0.00346,0.004984&t=k is where is I live |
| 03:43.52 | z00dax | interesting |
| 03:44.02 | z00dax | it wont show me that map - it needs me to zoom out 2 levels |
| 03:44.24 | Leedshome | http://maps.google.com/maps?ll=22.238860,114.155245&spn=0.016823,0.027766&t=k&hl=en is where I work - except that the empty lots across the road are now 40+ storey buildings... |
| 03:44.28 | Leedshome | strange |
| 03:44.36 | z00dax | nope |
| 03:44.43 | z00dax | not that either, need to zoom out a bit |
| 03:44.57 | z00dax | are they doing some sort of geoip type thing, to control detailed access |
| 03:44.59 | Leedshome | it'll go to maximum-1 level for me |
| 03:45.13 | Leedshome | could be, but I don't really see why |
| 03:45.49 | z00dax | I've never seen this before |
| 03:46.20 | z00dax | :( wont show me most of HK at anything more than max-3 zoom level |
| 03:46.27 | Leedshome | very odd |
| 03:48.36 | Leedshome | for reference, my place in London is http://maps.google.com/maps?t=k&hl=en&ll=51.597933,-0.234852&spn=0.001161,0.002492&t=k |
| 03:50.34 | z00dax | cool |
| 03:50.48 | Leedshome | and http://maps.google.com/maps?t=k&hl=en&ll=53.861009,-1.53505&spn=0.001103,0.002492&t=k with all the garden furniture, is my parents' place in Leeds |
| 03:51.04 | Leedshome | *all* located manually by visual inspection :-) |
| 03:53.07 | z00dax | http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&hl=en&ll=51.44221,0.198762&spn=0.001481,0.004249&t=h |
| 03:53.09 | z00dax | thats me |
| 03:54.38 | Leedshome | hmm... the Israeli-Lebanese border is clearly visible, although there are no high-res pics of the area |
| 03:56.37 | Leedshome | and the same old pics of Sri Lanka - low-res and cloudy |
| 03:56.44 | z00dax | http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&hl=en&q=gloucester+circus,+greenwich&ll=51.477811,-0.008765&spn=0.00296,0.008497&t=k this is where I should be by end of March |
| 03:57.49 | Leedshome | that's cheating! |
| 03:58.59 | z00dax | :) |
| 03:59.12 | z00dax | I dont know the area well enough to spot stuff from the air |
| 03:59.36 | z00dax | and that front row of houses there has been demolished and a swanky new appartment building as come up recently |
| 04:00.03 | Leedshome | ah, so you're moving into a swanky new apartment? |
| 04:00.39 | z00dax | Right next to it, hoping to entrap a bird that parks in the appts |
| 04:02.04 | z00dax | rent for those appt is like £1900 a month ( 3 bed ) |
| 04:02.15 | z00dax | I could not afford that |
| 04:04.17 | Leedshome | wow |
| 04:05.20 | Leedshome | centos doesn't pay that well, huh? |
| 04:05.33 | z00dax | hahaha, CentOS does not pay at all.. |
| 04:06.18 | z00dax | its all voluntary |
| 04:06.30 | z00dax | I work for www.xinit.com at the moment |
| 04:09.17 | Leedshome | you write startup scripts for X servers? |
| 04:09.52 | Leedshome | oh, a different xinit |
| 04:10.03 | z00dax | :) |
| 04:10.31 | Leedshome | bah, startx.com was taken 9 years ago |
| 04:11.41 | Leedshome | okay, by a guy who is a serious and professional community activist, so that's alright |
| 04:27.25 | pawel | OK. |
| 04:27.30 | pawel | the job is done. |
| 04:27.45 | pawel | can go sleep. |
| 04:27.50 | pawel | nice one. |
| 04:27.54 | pawel | cya. |
| 04:27.55 | pawel | :> |
| 04:28.00 | pawel | good night. |
| 04:28.02 | z00dax | pawel, nite |
| 04:28.25 | Leedshome | night |
| 04:30.20 | pawel | z00dax: was that flash animation on your website prepared on windows? ;> or can do flash on linux? ;> |
| 04:31.33 | z00dax | think it was done on a Mac |
| 04:31.54 | z00dax | I've heard its possible to do some flash stuff on Linux too |
| 04:33.15 | pawel | oh, ok. why there isn't anything open and popular yet? ;> |
| 04:33.51 | z00dax | i am the wrong person to ask, have no clue really about graphics and such stuff. |
| 04:34.39 | pawel | Leedshome might know, he likes flash, pop-ups, big blinking websites and alloy-wheels. |
| 04:34.54 | pawel | 8-) |
| 04:35.29 | pawel | Leedshome: don't you? |
| 04:35.30 | pawel | ;> |
| 04:36.16 | pawel | you like when your browser takes all your memory and leaks all over your desk. |
| 04:36.44 | pawel | ok. I am offf....... |
| 04:36.46 | pawel | sleeeeeeeeeeeep. |
| 04:36.50 | pawel | shhh.... |
| 04:36.53 | pawel | night. |
| 04:36.53 | pawel | ;> |
| 04:37.13 | angelchild | http://www.osflash.org/ <-- Open Source Flash |
| 04:37.23 | angelchild | never used anything there |
| 04:37.27 | angelchild | but it exists |
| 04:37.55 | z00dax | angelchild, ! |
| 04:38.02 | angelchild | z00dax, ! |
| 04:39.45 | pawel | FlashMyAdmin - MySQL Administrator application in Flash. |
| 04:39.48 | pawel | oh dear! |
| 04:39.52 | pawel | this is a hardcore. |
| 04:41.39 | pawel | :> |
| 04:41.39 | pawel | ok. |
| 04:46.44 | Leedshome | angelchild: good afternoon |
| 09:33.10 | morsing | 'morning all! |
| 09:39.47 | morsing | Hello? |
| 09:41.49 | Provito | morning |
| 09:42.00 | Provito | what did you think of the IT crowd? |
| 09:47.14 | morsing | Hmm... Not really IT related |
| 09:47.29 | morsing | I think they just used IT to get some weird people in there |
| 09:47.51 | morsing | I'll wait and see what happens |
| 09:48.15 | morsing | I've recorded it on DVD if anyone is interested? |
| 11:05.40 | George | being ill SUCKS |
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| 11:53.51 | morsing | George: Does it? |
| 12:00.58 | Leedshome | morsing: so you hate all Muslims now? |
| 12:05.48 | morsing | Leedshome: What? Why? |
| 12:06.42 | Leedshome | I thought all Danes hated all Muslims? |
| 12:08.31 | Erwin | They freaked out after the supposed Koran-toilet-flushing too. At least there haven't been any deaths so far. |
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| 12:10.24 | Leedshome | hmm... dinner... something from the freezer, eat out, or get a takeaway? |
| 12:25.06 | Leedshome | quorn burgers in the Georg Formby, and microwaved veg it is |
| 12:26.49 | mikejw | :) |
| 12:26.55 | Erwin | Are you carnophobic? |
| 12:27.08 | mikejw | :S |
| 12:30.53 | Leedshome | nope |
| 12:40.04 | morsing | Leedshome: Danes don't hate muslims |
| 12:40.31 | morsing | Danes are naturally hostile to anything not danish but not particularly muslims |
| 12:40.41 | morsing | It was a test! |
| 12:49.19 | morsing | Check it! |
| 13:17.12 | morsing | Hey, where does the $opt_v stuff come from in Perl? |
| 13:17.42 | morsing | Is it defined somewhere? |
| 13:18.26 | Erwin | Getopt::Std module |
| 13:20.28 | morsing | Erwin: But can I just load that module and use, say $opt_l, and it will read the option -l? |
| 13:24.20 | Erwin | No. You need to call a function and tell it what option your script takes |
| 13:24.36 | Erwin | Otherwise it couldn't parse -lfoo -- is it option -l with argument foo, or option -l, option -f and option -o twice? |
| 13:35.27 | morsing | Mmm... 19 year old girl |
| 13:42.33 | morsing | Erwin: What does qw do? |
| 13:48.17 | Erwin | qw/foo bar baz/ is equivalent to ("foo", "bar", "baz"), i.e. a quick way to build up a list of words |
| 13:53.01 | morsing | Hmm... So that's not it |
| 13:54.51 | Leedshome | I have managed to do almost entirely nothing today |
| 14:17.32 | morsing | Leedshome: Well done. |
| 14:27.12 | morsing | Erwin: It's because I need to define it with GetOptions |
| 14:28.26 | Erwin | ? see perldoc Getopt::std |
| 14:28.30 | Erwin | Or rather ::Std |
| 15:12.47 | gregj | 1 |
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| 15:14.19 | JAV | good afternoon |
| 15:15.31 | George | morsing: yes |
| 15:18.12 | morsing | George: What? |
| 15:18.16 | morsing | Hi JAV |
| 15:18.25 | George | morsing: it sucks |
| 15:18.36 | George | there's an epidemic in Harrow at the moment |
| 15:18.45 | George | about 50-100 boys have got the same bug |
| 15:18.49 | morsing | I'm sick as well :-( |
| 15:18.55 | morsing | George: But no girls? |
| 15:19.02 | George | morsing: it's an all boys school |
| 15:19.27 | morsing | George: That's too bad |
| 15:19.35 | George | no, it's fantastic |
| 15:19.37 | morsing | No girls to take care of you then! |
| 15:19.43 | George | I've been sleeping all day |
| 15:19.44 | George | blah |
| 15:19.46 | George | :( |
| 15:45.25 | z00dax | Leedshome, nite |
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| 17:22.45 | George | right, I've had enough, I'm going home |
| 17:22.49 | Kitty | byeee |
| 17:25.13 | George | #not now |
| 17:25.17 | George | parents are driving up |
| 17:25.28 | devilchild | mwahahahaa |
| 17:25.31 | devilchild | you have parents! |
| 17:25.39 | George | yes, yes I do |
| 17:25.46 | George | as opposed to you who has a honda manufacturing plant |
| 17:25.54 | devilchild | >:) |
| 17:26.14 | devilchild | CYBORGS ATTACK! |
| 17:27.52 | George | ridiculous woman |
| 17:28.07 | devilchild | little boy :) |
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| 17:32.25 | marios_ | hello ! |
| 17:32.51 | marios_ | does anybody know a good online store for computer parts |
| 17:32.52 | marios_ | ? |
| 17:33.35 | Provito | server or desktop? |
| 17:34.02 | marios_ | could you please give me one for each ? |
| 17:34.15 | Provito | www.overclockers.co.uk - for building desktop systems |
| 17:34.19 | Provito | www.dnuk.com for servers |
| 17:34.56 | marios_ | thanks ! |
| 17:37.37 | George | devilchild: moron |
| 17:38.29 | wethrin | wibble |
| 17:53.23 | morsing | George: Behave |
| 17:53.27 | morsing | wethrin: wobble! |
| 17:53.32 | wethrin | hello! |
| 17:54.29 | morsing | Hi wethrin |
| 17:54.45 | morsing | ~seen Cope |
| 17:54.52 | ibot | cope is currently on #gllug. Has said a total of 132 messages. Is idling for 3d 2h 7m 58s, last said: 'I just saw a loong url and didn't read the actual words'. |
| 17:55.02 | morsing | wethrin: Why is Cope so unhappy? |
| 17:55.37 | devilchild | :D |
| 17:56.06 | wethrin | morsing: is he? |
| 17:56.53 | morsing | Yes |
| 17:57.11 | wethrin | oh |
| 18:09.12 | morsing | wethrin: How's Edinburgh? Why aren't you out drinking? |
| 18:11.12 | morsing | wethrin? |
| 18:12.29 | wethrin | i've been drinking |
| 18:12.31 | wethrin | now pizza's here |
| 18:18.11 | morsing | Mmm... Sushi |
| 18:19.55 | morsing | Global symbol "$opt_h" requires explicit package name at ./check_mailq_deferred line 31. |
| 18:19.59 | morsing | Gnnffff*#$#%^ |
| 18:22.41 | wethrin | heh |
| 18:25.35 | morsing | What does it mean? |
| 18:26.12 | Erwin | It means you asked perl to be strict, it and it is |
| 18:26.38 | Erwin | I think you can do something like use vars qw/opt_h/; to declare it -- but I've been Perl-free for 5 years now, so I'm not sure :-) |
| 18:27.18 | Erwin | Oh, actually the perldoc says: |
| 18:27.44 | Erwin | Note that, if your code is running under the recommended "use strict 'vars'" pragma, you will need to declare these package variables with "our": |
| 18:27.47 | Erwin | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:27.59 | Erwin | That "our" thing must be something they've added in the last few years. |
| 18:28.26 | Erwin | Wh are you using Perl anyway, if you wanted to get started with Ruby on Rails? Then this would be a good way to find out how to do the same in Ruby. |
| 18:28.46 | George | back |
| 18:48.48 | morsing | Erwin: I'm writing Nagios plugins. |
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| 19:23.46 | wethrin | formi: I've booked a youth hostel place for you |
| 19:23.52 | wethrin | Fri & Sat nights |
| 19:24.01 | formi | wethrin: I am a bit confused here |
| 19:24.08 | wethrin | hm? |
| 19:24.11 | formi | i just read the social list |
| 19:24.14 | wethrin | Yeah |
| 19:24.33 | formi | and the message from Dan |
| 19:24.40 | wethrin | what? |
| 19:25.05 | formi | are you Dan? |
| 19:25.08 | wethrin | yes |
| 19:25.21 | formi | i am terrible with names |
| 19:25.42 | formi | mind a private? |
| 19:25.50 | wethrin | go ahead |
| 19:56.26 | new2unix | formi: how can you not know Dan? |
| 19:57.17 | new2unix | Dan is like the most popular guy in high school, that seems to get all the girls. |
| 19:58.13 | new2unix | formi: everybody knows Dan. |
| 19:58.26 | new2unix | ibot whois dan |
| 20:49.40 | morsing | Ha ha |
| 20:49.51 | morsing | formi: I'm with new2unix |
| 20:50.05 | morsing | You must have met Dan 200 times or so?! |
| 21:10.40 | pawel | hi. |
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| 23:30.40 | z00dax | or maybe not |
