| 01:56.40 | Leedshome | morning any/all |
| 01:58.26 | z00dax | hey Leedshome |
| 02:02.06 | JAV | morning |
| 02:03.42 | Leedshome | everyone had a good Friday? |
| 02:06.31 | JAV | not bad :D |
| 02:07.34 | JAV | now looking for a background image (new laptop) |
| 02:09.30 | Leedshome | I got *one* relatively decent picture of the HK skyline at night from the boat trip on Monday which I intend to test as a background |
| 02:10.06 | Leedshome | all the other pics were just blurry messes - you really need a tripod to take decent night shots, and I think being on dry land rather than a rocking boat might help too... |
| 02:11.36 | JAV | after discarding mine ones i'm looking art.gnome.org |
| 02:15.59 | Leedshome | now... why won't flash load on my desktop, while it works fine on my laptop? |
| 02:43.22 | JAV | it looks like CF cards reader needs a little more tweaking. Hangs laptop on removal |
| 02:44.37 | JAV | but this will be later, now bedtime. Good night |
| 07:51.16 | George | hey Leeds |
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| 09:03.05 | morsing | 'morning |
| 09:03.17 | morsing | Does anyone here use Ruby on Rails? |
| 10:13.01 | George | whassat? |
| 10:16.10 | morsing | George! |
| 10:16.14 | morsing | Whazzup? |
| 10:16.34 | George | nothing |
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| 11:20.52 | morsing | highbury! |
| 11:21.07 | morsing | How much have you used RUby on Rails? |
| 11:34.30 | Erwin | I've read the book. |
| 11:43.15 | morsing | Erwin: Cool. What's it all about? |
| 11:48.56 | morsing | Erwin? |
| 11:49.27 | Erwin | morsing: Well, it's just a RAD web framework |
| 11:50.01 | morsing | Ahh... So pretty useless? |
| 11:50.36 | Erwin | morsing: The good things about it is a well-done classic MVC split: Model, View, Controller. IT lets you easily separate your code into your Model, i.e. data, business rules, View which controls how such a thing is rendered, and Controller mhich mediates between these two |
| 11:51.19 | Erwin | If you are used to writing PHP from scratch for instance, using such a framework (or in Python, Turbogears or Django) should be a great productive boost, once you learn it |
| 11:51.40 | morsing | OK. |
| 11:52.07 | Erwin | But, don't take my word for it -- there's a 20-minute video on the RoR site (and the same on the TurboGears site). There you'll this in practice |
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| 12:14.04 | morsing | angelchild! |
| 12:14.08 | angelchild | morsing! |
| 12:14.15 | angelchild | I need to find a summer job somewhere |
| 12:14.28 | morsing | angelchild: Camelot? |
| 12:14.37 | angelchild | the lottery people? |
| 12:14.43 | angelchild | or the castle? |
| 12:16.16 | Erwin | Aaaw. The jackpot trickled down? |
| 12:21.20 | morsing | Erwin: Three jackpot winners! |
| 12:22.15 | Erwin | Oh. Just not in UK.. |
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| 12:41.50 | Provito | afternoon |
| 12:51.16 | morsing | Provito! |
| 12:57.19 | morsing | ping wethrin |
| 13:01.36 | Provito | hi morsing |
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| 14:46.10 | Leedshome | evening all |
| 14:47.01 | Leedshome | hi Provito |
| 15:02.04 | Leedshome | be like that... I'm going out again |
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| 15:18.31 | morsing | eye69! |
| 15:18.36 | morsing | Leedshome! |
| 16:14.55 | mikejw | :) |
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| 17:29.16 | morsing | mikejw! |
| 17:30.26 | mikejw | lo :) |
| 17:30.39 | mikejw | is there another lottery draw tonight? |
| 17:31.45 | mikejw | sorry of course there is |
| 17:37.49 | morsing | mikejw: Did you win the Euromillions? |
| 17:38.00 | morsing | The jackpot tonight is 8mill |
| 17:38.05 | morsing | Is that enough? |
| 17:38.50 | mikejw | perhaps that might do |
| 17:39.13 | mikejw | I'll have to check with my student loans people :) |
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| 18:27.22 | morsing | xenithuk! |
| 18:36.55 | xenithuk | morsing: hello |
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| 18:55.05 | morsing | angelchild! |
| 19:04.01 | morsing | What's a goodf Ruby book? |
| 19:07.11 | Erwin | The Ruby on Rails one is a good start. |
| 19:07.36 | Erwin | Otherwise, Programming Ruby -- both from the same "Pragmatic Programmer" guys. I think Programming Ruby at least is downloadable. |
| 19:08.02 | Erwin | Yes. PR is available for download, 1st edition -- 2nd edition, just out, is still in the bookshops only |
| 19:08.53 | Erwin | this iwas the book that I read, which was pretty good -- available as a PDF download though not for free -- http://www.pragmaticprogrammer.com/titles/rails/ |
| 19:15.29 | angelchild | hi morsing |
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| 19:17.12 | zx80user | hello all: any homechoicers here? Seems homechoice has landed in the spamcop RBL and so I am having problems sending mail to various forums |
| 19:18.12 | morsing | Wow - power surge! |
| 19:18.30 | morsing | Erwin: Thanks |
| 19:18.59 | morsing | Is there only one Ruby on Rails book? And does it cover Ruby basics as well? |
| 19:24.11 | Erwin | There might be several out by now. The one I pasted a link to is good -- the guys are good software developers |
| 19:24.31 | Erwin | Unless you've never programmed before, you should be able to learn Ruby from the book + online docs + the free Programming RUby book, as you go along |
| 19:27.01 | Leedshome | hello all again |
| 19:28.39 | George | I want my very own chemical fire |
| 19:31.31 | Leedshome | and apparently MFI are suing IBM over SAP... |
| 19:38.30 | Leedshome | of all the experiences I might have expected to have in my life, dancing to a Fillipino band covering Chumbawumba in a bar in Hong Kong was not one of them |
| 19:45.08 | Leedshome | ah well... zzzz, night all |
| 20:03.13 | z00dax | I like tunbridge wells |
| 20:12.19 | Kitty | is there some method in linux to cause the os to free up some of the disc cashes and clean memory use up abit? |
| 20:12.28 | Kitty | or is it just a case of killall mozilla |
| 20:24.03 | George | SAUSAGES!!!!!! |
| 20:25.22 | Erwin | Kitty: It happens automatically as programs request memory. |
| 20:25.55 | Kitty | Erwin: I thought so too, but the box really isn't liking things |
| 20:26.21 | Kitty | ending a process which uses 200 meg of memory, andit only freed 30 meg |
| 20:27.03 | Erwin | uses has has resident? the RSS is the actual in-memory portion |
| 21:01.39 | wethrin | morsing: ping? |
| 21:19.27 | morsing | wethrin: pong |
| 21:19.41 | wethrin | morsing: You pung me around midday today? |
| 21:19.48 | wethrin | Er, 1pm, even |
| 21:20.48 | morsing | Leedshome: SAP isn't an IBM product |
| 21:20.57 | morsing | wethrin: Did I? |
| 21:21.59 | wethrin | yes |
| 21:22.06 | wethrin | 12:57 #gllug: <morsing> ping wethrin |
| 21:22.08 | morsing | %ERRORS=('OK'=>0,'WARNING'=>1,'CRITICAL'=>2,'UNKNOWN'=>3,'DEPENDENT'=>4); |
| 21:22.15 | morsing | wethrin: Sorry |
| 21:22.20 | wethrin | that's okay |
| 21:22.24 | wethrin | Was wondering what you wanted |
| 21:22.47 | morsing | wethrin: I can't remember |
| 21:22.55 | wethrin | heh |
| 21:22.56 | wethrin | Fair enough |
| 21:22.57 | morsing | What are you doing in Edinburgh? |
| 21:23.04 | wethrin | currently I'm drinking wine |
| 21:23.05 | morsing | beer |
| 21:23.16 | wethrin | at a friend's place |
| 21:23.56 | Erwin | Balvenie |
| 21:24.09 | wethrin | a tasty whisky |
| 21:26.05 | morsing | Anyone know of a public NTP server? |
| 21:26.09 | morsing | ibot ntp |
| 21:26.12 | ibot | i guess ntp is Network Time Protocol, and a public NTP server is pool.ntp.org |
| 21:26.21 | morsing | ibot you rule :-) |
| 21:26.21 | ibot | aw, gee, morsing |
| 21:27.30 | morsing | heh, it worked |
| 22:09.33 | wethrin | hi new2 |
| 22:12.25 | new2unix | :) |
| 22:13.37 | wethrin | Excellent! |
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| 23:10.45 | wethrin | ha! |
| 23:14.36 | wethrin | woot. social has 105 members. now it'd be nice if more than 10% of them made an appearance :) |