| 00:32.29 | wethrin | Oi |
| 00:45.15 | rhowe | wot? |
| 00:45.48 | wethrin | We had beer |
| 00:46.13 | rhowe | Did you indeed? |
| 00:48.26 | wethrin | night |
| 00:48.33 | wethrin | Yarr. See you for Thursday-beer? |
| 00:48.41 | rhowe | Yep |
| 00:48.45 | rhowe | Need to decide a place |
| 00:48.48 | wethrin | Yeah |
| 00:48.53 | wethrin | London.pm should decide a place, actually |
| 00:49.05 | wethrin | Given it's the Thursday after the first Wednesday of the month |
| 00:52.40 | rhowe | ach so |
| 00:53.36 | wethrin | but they appear to have forgotten this. I shall try and remind them tomorrow |
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| 00:57.35 | wethrin | Hello |
| 00:57.40 | wethrin | That took you some time to get back :) |
| 00:59.33 | AngelChild | well |
| 00:59.38 | AngelChild | I walked back from the station |
| 01:00.30 | wethrin | Oops :) |
| 01:00.43 | AngelChild | oops? :) |
| 01:01.13 | AngelChild | no taxis, and anyway I wanted to see if I could get a burger, but amersham's a boring place :( |
| 01:02.26 | wethrin | The pasty stand at Marylebone is rather good |
| 01:03.26 | angelchild | :) |
| 01:04.12 | wethrin | Beaconsfield's similarly boring |
| 01:07.03 | wethrin | hello George |
| 01:07.06 | George | did you morons meet angelchild ? |
| 01:07.07 | wethrin | We had a good time at the pub |
| 01:49.10 | George | wethrin: anyway |
| 01:49.12 | George | wethrin: you're odd |
| 01:50.23 | wethrin | yes, and? |
| 01:50.51 | wethrin | night |
| 01:52.30 | George | mmm cheddar |
| 01:52.35 | George | wethrin: guten nacht |
| 02:02.36 | George | AngelChild: you are an aggresive bitc |
| 02:02.38 | George | +h |
| 02:03.02 | AngelChild | err |
| 02:03.06 | AngelChild | thanks O.o |
| 02:03.41 | George | BITCH |
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| 02:04.24 | George | heyho Leeds |
| 02:04.43 | Leeds | morning George |
| 02:05.51 | Leeds | it has somewhat failed to keep up with its promise, yes |
| 02:06.24 | George | heh |
| 02:07.11 | Leeds | not so heh |
| 02:07.25 | George | :( |
| 02:09.14 | Leeds | hmm... |
| 02:11.20 | Leeds | this could be a problem |
| 02:25.49 | Leeds | gonna have to buy a new key... |
| 02:26.01 | George | Leeds: erk |
| 02:48.44 | Leeds | Certificate being issued... |
| 02:49.18 | George | heh |
| 03:03.47 | Leeds | still being issued... |
| 03:09.40 | George | heh |
| 03:11.32 | Leeds | still waiting... not patiently |
| 03:14.36 | George | :( |
| 03:14.48 | George | shouldn't have forgotten your passphrase then! |
| 03:15.10 | Leeds | I know - still shouldn't take 30 minutes to issue a cert automatically |
| 03:29.45 | Leeds | still waiting... not happy |
| 03:36.30 | George | heh |
| 04:11.00 | Leeds | still waiting... very not happy |
| 04:23.35 | George | :( |
| 04:25.28 | Leeds | and meanwhile, my external brain is offline |
| 04:25.35 | George | external brain? |
| 04:25.38 | Leeds | wikipedia |
| 04:25.42 | George | hehe |
| 04:25.49 | George | Leeds: I've come to the conclusion that gpe is better than opie |
| 04:25.51 | George | I feel dirty |
| 04:26.00 | Leeds | I was actually looking up someone for work when it went away |
| 04:26.10 | George | heh |
| 04:26.13 | Leeds | I have always thought that gpe was better than opie |
| 04:26.21 | George | :( |
| 04:26.24 | George | but opie is qt based |
| 04:26.28 | George | and gpe is gtk based |
| 04:26.33 | Leeds | that's one of the reasons, yes |
| 04:26.38 | George | ... |
| 04:27.23 | Leeds | yes, what? |
| 04:27.35 | Leeds | ah, brain is back |
| 04:27.37 | George | meanie |
| 04:27.57 | Leeds | for reference, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lab_color_space is the page I was loading |
| 04:29.10 | Leeds | we use Lab for testing the colour of materials |
| 04:32.56 | Leeds | and still no cert |
| 04:36.18 | Leeds | morning Cope |
| 04:37.01 | Cope | hello Leeds |
| 04:37.05 | AngelChild | hi Cope |
| 04:37.08 | George | Cope: go to bed |
| 04:37.10 | Cope | aha, AngelChild |
| 04:37.16 | Cope | George: but I just woke up |
| 04:37.20 | George | Cope: go to bed |
| 04:37.24 | Cope | no |
| 04:37.24 | AngelChild | wethrin persuaded me to go |
| 04:37.27 | George | Cope: go to bed |
| 04:37.29 | AngelChild | to the pub(s) |
| 04:37.35 | Cope | AngelChild: hoorah |
| 04:37.37 | AngelChild | so i did, it was quite fun :-) |
| 04:37.42 | Cope | excellent |
| 04:37.46 | George | Cope: go to bed |
| 04:38.52 | Leeds | morning AngelChild |
| 04:39.37 | AngelChild | morning :) |
| 04:40.23 | Leeds | so, are all the pubs actually open until stupid times of the morning now? |
| 04:40.43 | AngelChild | the one we were in closed at 11:30 or so |
| 04:42.09 | Leeds | bah! |
| 05:01.18 | andrew | hi there |
| 05:01.27 | Leeds | afternoon andrew |
| 05:01.46 | andrew | What time is it (cant be bothered to do the sums) |
| 05:02.34 | andrew | Re pubs - a friend of mine walking to church on new years day went past a pub that was still open at 9am |
| 05:02.49 | andrew | Maybe new years day is a special case? |
| 05:02.50 | Leeds | 1pm, lunchtime |
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| 05:53.06 | Leeds | afternoon Kitty |
| 06:00.23 | George | who the smeg is Kitty |
| 06:01.33 | Leeds | no idea, but he/she joined about half an hour ago |
| 06:02.17 | George | ok |
| 06:02.28 | Leeds | I wasn't talking to you... :-) |
| 06:02.36 | Leeds | did you actually go to bed last night? |
| 06:02.42 | George | define last night |
| 06:03.27 | Leeds | between sunset on Tuesday and sunrise on Wednesday |
| 06:03.33 | George | nope |
| 06:04.06 | Leeds | why not? |
| 06:04.20 | George | ipaq |
| 06:04.43 | Leeds | iraq? |
| 06:04.47 | George | no |
| 06:09.58 | George | I should sleep |
| 06:10.53 | Leeds | yes, you should, as long as you don't mind jetlag |
| 06:11.08 | George | lol |
| 06:11.44 | George | I haven't been on a plane this year |
| 06:14.42 | Leeds | I have |
| 06:15.05 | Leeds | anyway, one of the parts of jetlag is the jolt to the system caused by a change in timezone - particularly sleep patterns |
| 06:19.35 | George | nite |
| 06:20.34 | Kitty | hi there |
| 06:20.40 | Kitty | I have been to a couple of gllug events |
| 06:20.49 | Kitty | am actually based in kent, but we don't have a lug |
| 06:21.04 | Kitty | was drinking with angelchild earlier, and he mentinoed this place |
| 06:21.25 | Leeds | why would it not be? because you're in kent? :-) |
| 06:22.04 | Leeds | pleased to meet you... I'm in Hong Kong. We take 'Greater' seriously around here :-) |
| 06:23.24 | George | go to bed! |
| 06:24.48 | Kitty | hehe |
| 06:24.57 | Leeds | George: you're a fool and you know it... |
| 06:25.02 | George | Leeds: thanks :) |
| 06:25.06 | Leeds | Kitty: please tell me you've not been up all night too? |
| 06:25.17 | Kitty | yep |
| 06:25.21 | George | haha |
| 06:25.26 | Kitty | I am an insomniac |
| 06:25.53 | George | heh |
| 06:33.10 | Leeds | zzzzzz |
| 06:37.50 | Leeds | I hope you brought enough for everyone... |
| 06:39.57 | Kitty | yep |
| 06:40.00 | Kitty | dig in! |
| 06:43.59 | Leeds | mmm... catfood |
| 06:44.10 | Kitty | made from 100% pure cat! |
| 06:44.47 | Leeds | the best sort |
| 06:45.11 | Leeds | tastes so much better than impure cat |
| 06:48.44 | Kitty | ugh, full kitty |
| 06:53.59 | Kitty | Leeds: did you say hong kong was where you hail from? |
| 07:00.27 | Leeds | nope, it's where I am |
| 07:02.02 | Kitty | aah |
| 07:03.08 | Leeds | you may be able to guess from whence I hail |
| 07:04.34 | Kitty | hmm, someone oop norf? :p |
| 07:05.29 | Leeds | summat like that, aye |
| 07:28.40 | Leeds | Kitty: so what's your linux story then? |
| 07:29.03 | Kitty | later, bed time. |
| 07:29.38 | Leeds | okay, g'night |
| 08:09.21 | Leeds | complaint sent to jason... |
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| 08:18.17 | morsing | wethrin? |
| 08:25.46 | Leeds | morsing... |
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| 08:49.14 | Leeds | morgen SlayerXP |
| 08:49.59 | SlayerXP | morning |
| 08:50.28 | Leeds | I do not understand how people actually use IE day-to-day |
| 08:50.58 | Leeds | it's so... feature-free... compared with any modern browser |
| 08:56.46 | morsing | Leeds! |
| 08:56.48 | morsing | SlayerXP! |
| 08:57.06 | morsing | ibot wake wethrin |
| 08:57.07 | ibot | wethrin: GOOD MORNING!!! |
| 09:01.04 | Leeds | morsing: when are you back in London? |
| 09:01.14 | Leeds | s/London/the UK/ |
| 09:01.58 | morsing | Leeds: Came back last night |
| 09:02.16 | Leeds | ah, perfectly timed to miss me |
| 09:02.41 | morsing | I know |
| 09:03.01 | Leeds | did you have a good christmas/new year? |
| 09:03.25 | morsing | Yes, except for one thing. Did you? |
| 09:03.53 | Leeds | what one thing? yes, apart from one thing |
| 09:04.47 | morsing | The John Bull pub has closed permanently :-( *sniff* |
| 09:05.12 | Leeds | that's the one by the hotel? |
| 09:05.50 | morsing | Leeds: Yes |
| 09:07.27 | Leeds | pity :-( |
| 09:09.27 | morsing | :-( |
| 09:09.51 | morsing | Oh yeah, the mail server problem really got me down as well :-( |
| 09:10.23 | SlayerXP | hire me to fix ut |
| 09:10.25 | SlayerXP | err it |
| 09:11.09 | morsing | SlayerXP: You can't fix it |
| 09:11.21 | Leeds | your fault for using postfix and/or debian rather than exim on slackware |
| 09:11.25 | morsing | It's a Debian problem I think |
| 09:11.58 | SlayerXP | morsing: apt-get install exim4-daemon-heavy |
| 09:12.05 | SlayerXP | didn't I tell you this about 2 days ago? |
| 09:14.48 | SlayerXP | exim4 is lovely, makes the regular things easy and the difficults things possible. |
| 09:14.54 | SlayerXP | difficult |
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| 09:23.09 | morsing | Cope! |
| 09:23.19 | morsing | Who going to Hay-n-Wye? |
| 09:23.24 | morsing | s/n/on/ |
| 09:23.49 | Cope | goiong? |
| 09:23.55 | morsing | Eh? |
| 09:24.14 | Cope | you changed n to on |
| 09:24.16 | Cope | once |
| 09:24.17 | morsing | I believe it's in March |
| 09:24.26 | Cope | which matched the n in going |
| 09:24.34 | Cope | giving you goiong |
| 09:24.45 | morsing | Cope: So are you? |
| 09:25.17 | Cope | unsure - I really need to think carefully about how to use my leave this year; I may want to go to china for some time to see William |
| 09:26.03 | Leeds | and me! |
| 09:26.51 | Leeds | although William is cuter than me, slightly |
| 09:28.36 | Leeds | aw, shucks |
| 09:28.42 | morsing | :-) Gotcha! |
| 09:53.13 | morsing | Heyyyy, Robin's back |
| 09:54.09 | Leeds | really? who's Robin? |
| 09:58.51 | morsing | Guy in office who says "Check it!" all the time |
| 09:58.51 | Leeds | ibot change 213 hkd to gbp |
| 09:58.59 | Leeds | Cock it! |
| 09:59.01 | morsing | ibot where is wethrin? |
| 09:59.04 | ibot | morsing: what are you talking about? |
| 09:59.47 | morsing | ~seen wethrin |
| 09:59.51 | ibot | wethrin is currently on #gllug #classiccmp. Has said a total of 101 messages. Is idling for 8h 9m |
| 10:00.24 | Leeds | hmm... I was about to say that I've been logged in for almost 8 hours and not seen him say anything :-) |
| 10:04.34 | andrew | Hi there |
| 10:04.41 | morsing | He's not responding to texts... |
| 10:05.01 | andrew | morsing - are you back in England? |
| 10:05.02 | Leeds | could be busy, sleeping in... |
| 10:05.22 | andrew | typical student behaviour :-) |
| 10:05.33 | morsing | andrew: Yes. AndrewBlack? |
| 10:14.50 | andrew | My last day of holiday today - taken 2 extra days off. |
| 10:15.48 | morsing | wethrin just texted me that he'll be on IRC after breakfast |
| 10:16.10 | Leeds | let the poor guy have his weetabix and beer |
| 10:19.41 | morsing | How do I start an import business? |
| 10:19.48 | morsing | Do I need to register somewhere? |
| 10:20.37 | Leeds | register for what? the business or the importing? |
| 10:20.43 | Leeds | not that I really know |
| 10:21.19 | morsing | Both really. |
| 10:22.56 | morsing | SlayerXP: What do you think? |
| 10:28.35 | Leeds | you don't need to register to do business... I would think you don't need to register if you're trading within the EU |
| 10:29.01 | Leeds | depends on whether you're doing enough business that the tax man would care about you, really |
| 10:29.16 | morsing | SO I can just buy loads of stuff from Denmark and sell it here? |
| 10:29.19 | murb | morsing: some eu countries require you to register for VAT. |
| 10:29.36 | murb | for instance you can't do anything in .fi including importing exporting without being registered *There* |
| 10:29.46 | murb | (if you are inside in the eu) |
| 10:29.49 | morsing | murb: .fi is not in the eu |
| 10:29.59 | murb | morsing: that is why they use euros? |
| 10:30.09 | morsing | murb: They don't though |
| 10:30.18 | murb | they do. |
| 10:30.21 | murb | morsing: you are wrong. |
| 10:30.28 | morsing | http://virtual.finland.fi/netcomm/news/showarticle.asp?intNWSAID=25256 |
| 10:31.38 | murb | morsing: thankyou for the citation proving i'm correct. |
| 10:32.49 | Leeds | yeah... the EU seems to think that Finland is a member |
| 10:36.42 | Leeds | morsing: if you, personally, wanted to bring in goods from Denmark and resell them in the UK, I think the only issue would be the tax liability on yourself |
| 10:38.12 | murb | if it was commerical you might also have vat issues. |
| 10:38.57 | Leeds | if nothing else, I'd assume that at least to start with, the turnover would be low enough that the VAT man wouldn't care |
| 10:40.17 | Leeds | the amount is of the order of sixty thousand pounds |
| 10:41.08 | Leeds | or possibly seventy, depending on context |
| 10:42.53 | murb | Leeds: I endup being regstered to vat in .de not on purpose. |
| 10:43.10 | murb | (i filled in the self employment form and didn't fill in the opt out section which i didn't know about) |
| 10:43.32 | murb | which means i had to pay 16% out of my own pocket on my early invoices :*( |
| 10:43.35 | Leeds | I think you may register with lower turnover, but above that level you must |
| 10:43.36 | Leeds | oops |
| 10:43.42 | Leeds | no VAT here... |
| 10:45.25 | murb | i see that is being fixed in .in |
| 10:46.10 | Leeds | the government here has suggested that they'd like to introduce one |
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| 10:53.59 | morsing | Leeds: It's £3000 |
| 10:54.28 | Leeds | morsing: a one-off, or lots of them? |
| 10:58.35 | morsing | SlayerXP: I did attempt to install exim4 but getting started with the configuration is a nightmare |
| 11:02.36 | morsing | Mmm... 1:1 |
| 11:03.13 | Leeds | morsing: are you planning to import lots of X and resell them for 3 grand, or just a single X? |
| 11:03.34 | morsing | Leeds: I want to set up a website selling danish food items |
| 11:04.17 | Leeds | would you anticipate doing more than 70,000 pounds turnover? |
| 11:04.43 | morsing | Leeds: Why not |
| 11:04.49 | Leeds | or did you mean 3,000 was your total expected turnover? |
| 11:05.20 | morsing | Leeds: £3000 is the tax limit. You said £60000 |
| 11:05.34 | Leeds | where do you see 3,000? |
| 11:05.47 | Leeds | and I was talking about VAT in particular |
| 11:06.59 | morsing | Ahh... VAT |
| 11:07.07 | morsing | ibot wake wethrin |
| 11:07.11 | ibot | wethrin: GOOD MORNING!!! |
| 11:07.47 | Leeds | getting cold in here... it seems like the aircon is actually on |
| 11:11.28 | andrew | leeds - a friend of mine worked in Singapore. They loved their aircon. You needed to put more clothes on inside than out! |
| 11:12.26 | Leeds | sure, but it's the depths of winter at the moment! it might fall as low as 15 degrees overnight! |
| 11:22.01 | morsing | Chcek it! |
| 11:24.39 | wethrin | hello |
| 11:24.45 | morsing | WETHRIN! |
| 11:24.54 | Leeds | evening wethrin |
| 11:25.00 | morsing | wethrin: You going to Hay-on-Wye? |
| 11:26.22 | wethrin | Nope |
| 11:26.24 | wethrin | hi Leeds |
| 11:26.34 | wethrin | Is all well and good in the land of the HK? |
| 11:26.54 | Leeds | pretty much |
| 11:27.05 | wethrin | good good |
| 11:27.18 | Leeds | I assume you're still lazing around down south |
| 11:28.07 | morsing | wethrin: Why not? :-( |
| 11:28.21 | Leeds | 2b or not 2b may be the question, but 42 is the answer |
| 11:28.22 | morsing | wethrin: When are we going to plan FOSDEM? |
| 11:28.34 | morsing | ping rhowe? |
| 11:29.00 | Leeds | morsing: I propose a moratorium on FOSDEM because I can't make it - I don't see why you lot should get cold and drunk in Brussels when I'm warm and drunk in HK |
| 11:29.07 | murb | talking of fosdem i'll probably be there. |
| 11:29.19 | murb | Leeds: sycrodrinking? |
| 11:29.23 | murb | syncro |
| 11:29.42 | morsing | wethrin: ? |
| 11:33.55 | morsing | What does lockfs do? |
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| 11:35.17 | wethrin | Fosdem will be planned soon. When I get back up to Durham |
| 11:35.51 | murb | oh to the northern wastelands? |
| 11:35.57 | morsing | wethrin: Why not Hay-on-Rye? |
| 11:36.23 | murb | morsing: because kayaking on bread isn't so fun. |
| 11:36.40 | morsing | wethrin: ? |
| 11:37.43 | wethrin | morsing: Am with family at Easter :) |
| 11:40.30 | murb | wethrin: don't forget geekski! |
| 11:40.55 | wethrin | Don't think I can afford it with Fosdem :( |
| 11:41.06 | wethrin | I've not forgotten it |
| 11:45.51 | morsing | SlayerXP: You going to FOSDEM? |
| 11:46.14 | morsing | wethrin: How close is it to Easter? |
| 11:47.00 | SlayerXP | morsing: what's a FOSDEM? |
| 11:47.39 | morsing | SlayerXP: You went last year? |
| 11:47.53 | SlayerXP | as I don't know what it is, I have no idea. |
| 11:48.45 | morsing | Well I spoke to you there... |
| 11:50.11 | wethrin | morsing: Haye-on-Wye is bang on the Easter weekend |
| 11:50.18 | wethrin | morsing: He wasn't there |
| 11:50.30 | wethrin | SlayerXP: Free and Open Source Developers European Meeting |
| 11:50.34 | wethrin | aka a piss-up in Brussels |
| 11:50.37 | SlayerXP | oh, where is it? |
| 11:50.41 | SlayerXP | dunno |
| 11:52.44 | morsing | Where did Leeds go? |
| 11:55.13 | wethrin | back home from work? |
| 11:55.45 | morsing | wethrin: Do I remember the wrong person? |
| 11:56.54 | wethrin | morsing: Yes. Maybe you were drunk? :) |
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| 12:23.02 | eye69 | Hello people. |
| 12:23.39 | Leeds | evening eye69 - happy new year |
| 12:23.58 | eye69 | And the same to you, Leeds. |
| 12:30.00 | Cope | 3 cheers for backups |
| 12:30.14 | Cope | since my laptop catastrophically died last night |
| 12:30.23 | Cope | and I lost a total of.... |
| 12:30.28 | Cope | no data at all :o) |
| 12:30.31 | Leeds | yay |
| 12:31.11 | Cope | its taken me 4 hours to rebuild and recover, but that's pretty quick |
| 12:52.43 | Leeds | I'm watching the Christmas Top Gear... |
| 12:55.36 | morsing | magnus! Happy new year! |
| 12:56.33 | morsing | Leeds: When we sat at the "bar" area behind the big lecture hall at FOSDEM last year, who was it we were talking to? |
| 12:57.17 | Leeds | morsing: do you honestly think I have a clue what I was doing that long ago? Unless it was armijn or whatever his name is |
| 12:57.30 | morsing | The guy who said "Now all we need is <name> for a proper AIX, Solaris and Debian bashing"? |
| 12:58.05 | morsing | eye69? |
| 13:04.33 | SlayerXP | sendS |
| 13:05.41 | morsing | Dan Stevens? |
| 13:05.56 | morsing | SlayerXP: I think I got you mixed up. |
| 13:06.08 | SlayerXP | See "paypal: good/bad" and t he penguins thread |
| 13:06.35 | SlayerXP | the bloke with (IAmAI) tagged onto his realname |
| 13:06.42 | morsing | Someone sat down with me and Leeds and said "All we need now is SlayerXP for a proper AIX, Solaris and Debian bashing" |
| 13:06.55 | morsing | ~seen IAmAI |
| 13:06.59 | ibot | iamai <n=IAmAI@user-7962.lns1-c7.dsl.pol.co.uk> was last seen on IRC in channel #gllug, 17h 4m 3s ago, saying: 'Hello. Anybody there?'. |
| 13:07.32 | morsing | What do you think of this for a simple web design? |
| 13:07.33 | morsing | http://www.morsing.cc/nyside/morsingtest.html |
| 13:08.21 | SlayerXP | that's awful. |
| 13:08.41 | SlayerXP | and doesn't work properly in a text only browser |
| 13:09.09 | SlayerXP | you've fallen in to the "I will force everyone to use 640x480 trap" |
| 13:09.29 | SlayerXP | meaning you're content is a tiny blue blue in the middle of a vast browser pane |
| 13:09.37 | SlayerXP | your |
| 13:09.41 | SlayerXP | blue blob |
| 13:10.10 | SlayerXP | and _even better_, you then force the user to use scroll bars to read your content |
| 13:10.23 | morsing | SlayerXP: No - I've got that fixed. My newest development is aware of the browser window |
| 13:10.32 | morsing | I just haven't put it in yet |
| 13:10.37 | SlayerXP | yes, I have a 1600x1200 browser pane, and you make me use scroll bars in the middle of it |
| 13:10.41 | morsing | I was only asking about the design |
| 13:10.49 | SlayerXP | oh |
| 13:11.00 | morsing | SlayerXP: It's taken car of. No more scrollbars! |
| 13:11.03 | SlayerXP | eerr, "it's blue" is my only aesthic comment. |
| 13:11.09 | SlayerXP | aesthetic |
| 13:11.40 | SlayerXP | the whole 640x480 plus scrollbars has put me off looking any further, to be honest. |
| 13:11.48 | morsing | Ok. I know it won't work well in Lynx but it's difficult unless I have two versions and check for the browser type |
| 13:12.07 | morsing | SlayerXP: Thanks. I know it's good then :-) |
| 13:12.11 | SlayerXP | morsing: hardly. see http://www.clues.ltd.uk/ |
| 13:12.20 | morsing | http://www.clues.ltd.uk/ |
| 13:12.34 | SlayerXP | works equally well in any browser, has no browser detect nonsense |
| 13:13.05 | SlayerXP | cooking& |
| 13:13.35 | eye69 | SlayerXP? |
| 13:13.52 | eye69 | Oops. I meant morsing. |
| 13:14.19 | morsing | SlayerXP: So what's the difference? |
| 13:14.23 | morsing | eye69: ? |
| 13:14.31 | eye69 | 13:58:05 < morsing> eye69? |
| 13:14.50 | morsing | Ahh... Can't remember now. |
| 13:14.56 | morsing | You coming to FOSDEM? |
| 13:14.59 | eye69 | Nope. |
| 13:15.03 | morsing | :-( |
| 13:15.16 | morsing | SlayerXP: ? |
| 13:19.43 | morsing | SlayerXP! |
| 13:28.28 | morsing | Who is Mad Harper? |
| 13:29.39 | morsing | I talk too much |
| 13:39.48 | wethrin | Hello people |
| 13:39.51 | morsing | wethrin! |
| 13:39.55 | wethrin | morsing! |
| 13:42.30 | wethrin | Ha |
| 13:42.39 | George | wethrin: Ha? |
| 13:42.46 | wethrin | Ha. Sysadmin work. |
| 13:42.54 | George | wethrin: I'm being paid for it, bastard |
| 13:43.41 | wethrin | Ha |
| 13:43.48 | George | wethrin: I am! bastard. |
| 13:44.19 | wethrin | :) |
| 13:44.27 | wethrin | morsing: Thursday's pub has been announced |
| 13:44.34 | morsing | wethrin: Where? |
| 13:44.40 | George | wethrin: bloody hell, how many times do you pub you fatty? |
| 13:44.40 | wethrin | Read the Gllug Social list :) |
| 13:44.48 | wethrin | The Grafton Arms |
| 13:44.51 | morsing | Just did |
| 13:44.53 | wethrin | :) |
| 13:45.08 | wethrin | I'm sure I've been there before when I was a London student |
| 13:45.15 | wethrin | George: Occasinoally |
| 13:45.29 | George | wethrin: vile person |
| 13:45.44 | morsing | wethrin: Yay, it's in an easy to get to part of London |
| 13:46.09 | wethrin | morsing: Yes - Euston and walk |
| 13:46.20 | wethrin | (if you're coming from Watford) |
| 13:46.21 | morsing | Nice |
| 13:46.26 | wethrin | George: What? Even *you* came to the pub |
| 13:47.01 | George | wethrin: yes, but ... YOU FORCED ME TO |
| 13:47.05 | wethrin | I didn't! |
| 13:47.13 | George | my new sim card arrived today |
| 13:47.13 | wethrin | Cope / Leeds may have, I don't know |
| 13:47.16 | wethrin | ooh |
| 13:47.21 | George | wethrin: yeah, well, I had to go into london to unlock my phone |
| 13:47.33 | wethrin | Hm. Not a Nokia, then? |
| 13:49.12 | SlayerXP | fg |
| 13:49.27 | SlayerXP | morsing: Madeline Harper, a very good web designer |
| 13:50.50 | morsing | SlayerXP: What did I do wrong with my stuff (which someone else did for me)? |
| 13:53.38 | morsing | ibot SlayerXP |
| 13:53.41 | ibot | slayerxp is probably a dogmatic zealot, or a debhead and proud of it no doubt! |
| 14:02.05 | morsing | wethrin? |
| 14:02.26 | George | wethrin: apparently not |
| 14:05.04 | George | wethrin: you raving alcoholic |
| 14:05.13 | wethrin | what? |
| 14:05.50 | wethrin | Anyway. I'm off out |
| 14:05.56 | wethrin | bye! |
| 14:05.58 | morsing | BYE! |
| 14:06.06 | wethrin | don't forget PUB tomorrow! |
| 14:06.10 | morsing | Ok |
| 14:06.11 | George | hahahah pub |
| 14:06.14 | morsing | What's an LPI exam? |
| 14:06.24 | George | morsing: it's an exam which says "I know what ls does" |
| 14:06.25 | George | I think |
| 14:14.39 | morsing | George: It looks really good |
| 14:16.16 | George | I hate exams |
| 14:16.22 | George | I have exams next week |
| 14:19.25 | Cope | morsing: I've done it - thought it was very worthwhile actually |
| 14:20.05 | morsing | Cope: Good |
| 14:21.11 | morsing | BTW: I want to monitor the HW side of my server. How do I find out which system/bus is available on the server? |
| 14:28.13 | morsing | emil:~# ipmitool chassis status |
| 14:28.13 | morsing | Could not open device at /dev/ipmi0 or /dev/ipmi/0: No such file or directory |
| 14:29.09 | rhowe | morsing: dmidecode? |
| 14:29.19 | rhowe | morsing: Might only work on x86 hardware |
| 14:29.27 | morsing | Doesn't exist |
| 14:29.35 | rhowe | morsing: Might need installing |
| 14:29.39 | SlayerXP | fg |
| 14:29.43 | SlayerXP | did someone sqeak me? |
| 14:29.50 | SlayerXP | this windows is blue, you see. |
| 14:30.25 | morsing | rhowe: What are the odds that I have ipmi? |
| 14:30.52 | morsing | rhowe: Wow - so what am I looking for? |
| 14:31.33 | morsing | <PROTECTED> |
| 14:33.10 | morsing | rhowe? |
| 14:33.49 | morsing | <PROTECTED> |
| 14:37.17 | morsing | http://www.kids-brands.com/images/Bagpuss%20.jpg |
| 14:41.21 | rhowe | morsing: If it has a service processor, isn't that like a little computer inside the computer? |
| 14:41.31 | rhowe | morsing: Can't you log into it and run some fancy "tell me about the system" command? |
| 14:42.00 | morsing | rhowe: Possibly. That's what IPMI should do but it says I have no IPMI interface |
| 14:42.13 | morsing | Could not open device at /dev/ipmi0 or /dev/ipmi/0: No such file or directory |
| 14:42.25 | rhowe | morsing: Maybe you don't have IPMI support in your kernel/modules not loaded/etc? |
| 14:42.33 | morsing | I do |
| 14:42.45 | morsing | emil:~# dmesg | grep ipmi |
| 14:42.45 | morsing | ipmi message handler version 36.0 |
| 14:42.45 | morsing | ipmi device interface |
| 14:42.45 | morsing | ipmi_si: Trying "kcs" at I/O port 0xca2 |
| 14:42.45 | morsing | ipmi_si: Trying "smic" at I/O port 0xca9 |
| 14:42.47 | morsing | ipmi_si: Trying "bt" at I/O port 0xe4 |
| 14:42.49 | SlayerXP | morsing: maybe it hates you |
| 14:42.50 | morsing | ipmi_si: Unable to find any System Interface(s) |
| 14:42.58 | morsing | SlayerXP: Linux has always hated me |
| 14:43.06 | rhowe | morsing: What's the box? |
| 14:43.06 | morsing | Give me AIX any day |
| 14:43.17 | morsing | rhowe: x330 |
| 14:43.45 | rhowe | http://xcat.org/doc/managementprocessor-HOWTO.html |
| 14:43.48 | rhowe | Helpful? |
| 14:43.54 | morsing | http://www.nasi.com/xSeries_330.php |
| 14:44.32 | morsing | rhowe: Looks good |
| 14:45.25 | rhowe | morsing: Your box is a Ranger, apparently |
| 14:46.14 | rhowe | morsing: #xcat on EFnet looks handy :) |
| 14:46.46 | rhowe | morsing: Except it's empty... |
| 14:56.33 | morsing | rhowe: The link you pasted say access through I2C?!? |
| 15:07.12 | rhowe | morsing: *shrug* |
| 15:07.30 | rhowe | morsing: Maybe nobody's bothered coding IPMI support because I2C is available and works? :) |
| 15:13.34 | morsing | rhowe: I think I2C is the bus going to the IPMI. Two different things |
| 15:13.40 | morsing | It should work |
| 15:16.47 | morsing | http://flashgordon.ws/images/irwin_bc_6.jpg |
| 15:16.51 | Kitty | morning |
| 15:16.57 | morsing | 'morning |
| 15:16.58 | morsing | ? |
| 15:17.21 | morsing | SlayerXP: IT's a dangerous Kitty |
| 15:17.30 | SlayerXP | i hope it's had a rabies shot |
| 15:17.39 | SlayerXP | my two got theirs this morning |
| 15:35.04 | morsing | Go George's phone! |
| 15:36.21 | Kitty | hehe |
| 15:36.55 | Kitty | right, I need cheese, time to goto the butchers |
| 15:37.07 | morsing | Cheese? Or mice? |
| 15:37.19 | Kitty | cheese |
| 15:38.22 | George | sausages |
| 16:11.55 | rhowe | 04.01.06 16:10 miss me? :) |
| 16:11.56 | rhowe | 04.01.06 16:10 dont tell ya~ |
| 16:11.57 | rhowe | 04.01.06 16:11 typical woman :P |
| 16:12.07 | rhowe | Mr. Smooth, that's me :P |
| 16:12.08 | George | smeggity smeg |
| 16:12.28 | rhowe | (the middle line was her, the other two were me.. centericq doesn't make it easy to see) |
| 16:12.33 | George | mr small, that's you |
| 16:13.21 | George | moo |
| 16:13.28 | morsing | oom |
| 16:15.23 | morsing | Where's the IRC photo page? |
| 16:15.51 | rhowe | dunno, but I should create a #gllug entry on http://siksai.co.uk/gallery/ircpics |
| 16:16.57 | morsing | SlayerXP: You're not on here: |
| 16:16.58 | morsing | 16:15 < morsing> Where's the IRC photo page? |
| 16:17.11 | SlayerXP | morsing: should I be? |
| 16:17.20 | morsing | http://www.gllug.org.uk/ircphoto.html |
| 16:17.25 | morsing | SlayerXP: Yes - of course |
| 16:17.38 | SlayerXP | http://www.hinterlands.org/mart.jpg |
| 16:19.24 | George | SlayerXP: the police picked you up for something? |
| 16:19.49 | morsing | SlayerXP: :-) |
| 16:25.33 | morsing | 4Beer is the solution to all problems |
| 16:33.09 | morsing | ping wethrin |
| 16:35.32 | morsing | Mmm... Ham |
| 16:35.39 | Cope | mmm beer |
| 16:35.40 | George | Kitty: GIVE ME FOOD |
| 16:36.57 | George | ergh |
| 16:37.06 | morsing | George! |
| 16:37.08 | morsing | BEhave |
| 16:38.13 | Kitty | whats wrong with the bread |
| 16:38.16 | Kitty | I made that! |
| 16:43.43 | Kitty | yay, KKTCA |
| 16:56.26 | George | KKTCA? |
| 16:56.43 | Kitty | Kitty Killed The Conversation Again |
| 16:56.52 | George | ah |
| 16:57.00 | George | I was about to say that wikipedia didn't have it |
| 16:58.06 | George | Kitty: so it's AngelChild's fault that you're here? |
| 16:58.18 | Kitty | yes, kinda |
| 16:58.28 | George | ok |
| 16:58.33 | George | remind me to kill her |
| 16:58.36 | Kitty | tho I have been to the odd gllug event since 4/7/01 |
| 16:58.40 | George | :P |
| 16:59.46 | morsing | <S> I fail to see how it will solve our current situation |
| 16:59.46 | morsing | <S> I recreate perfectly good stub twice and both times it is patent nonsese |
| 16:59.46 | morsing | +deleted |
| 16:59.46 | morsing | <S> by RickK and CesarB. well you are idiots, because it is real. |
| 17:01.44 | morsing | Can anyone make sense of that?! |
| 17:02.16 | Kitty | nope |
| 17:05.10 | morsing | So where's AngelChild? |
| 17:06.19 | Kitty | no idea |
| 17:06.25 | Kitty | disconnected earlier |
| 17:07.15 | George | probably shovelling |
| 17:07.25 | George | she likes to smack me around the head with a shovel |
| 17:07.29 | Kitty | heh |
| 17:07.32 | morsing | We all do |
| 17:07.42 | George | morsing: I claim bullying of a minor |
| 17:09.08 | morsing | 17:06 < Kitty> no idea |
| 17:09.19 | morsing | What's happened to cutnpaste? |
| 17:09.35 | Kitty | dunno |
| 17:10.32 | morsing | Mmm... Almost go home time |
| 18:14.06 | Kitty | why do you demand a northern City? |
| 18:18.26 | rhowe | Demanding a southern city would be silly. There's one right here |
| 18:18.35 | Kitty | aye |
| 18:30.40 | *** join/#gllug George- (n=Test@future-is.orange.co.uk) |
| 18:31.08 | George- | WOO! |
| 18:31.43 | Kitty | hi |
| 18:31.54 | George- | gprs is cool |
| 18:32.00 | Kitty | yes it is |
| 18:32.23 | George- | and cheap |
| 18:35.26 | George | :) |
| 18:54.02 | *** join/#gllug george_ (n=george@future-is.orange.co.uk) |
| 18:54.06 | george_ | this is very cool |
| 19:52.46 | rhowe | http://tinyurl.com/cxk9q |
| 20:02.07 | wethrin | hmm |
| 20:05.44 | *** join/#gllug AndrewBlack (n=chatzill@81.2.66.249) |
| 20:07.21 | wethrin | hi AndrewBlack |
| 20:07.47 | rhowe | wethrin: Where's london.pm tomorrow? |
| 20:07.58 | wethrin | rhowe: RTFEmail :) |
| 20:08.01 | rhowe | (or read gllug-social) |
| 20:08.11 | wethrin | Grafton Arms, Grafton Way |
| 20:08.17 | wethrin | It's conveniently close to UCL |
| 20:09.05 | AndrewBlack | Hi Wethrin |
| 20:09.26 | wethrin | Thanks for organising tomorrow |
| 20:09.50 | wethrin | Do we have a room booked, or just turn up and find Perl people? |
| 20:09.58 | rhowe | Evenin' AndrewBlack |
| 20:09.58 | AndrewBlack | it is rather funny. We had our work xmas bash there and I thought it would make a venue for PM |
| 20:10.06 | AndrewBlack | He rhowe |
| 20:10.39 | rhowe | "If you have your email forwarded to a another provider and the email is marked SPAM-HIGH or SPAM-VHIGH then please DO NOT use your provider's junk mail reporting tools [...] At present we are unable to process any email sent to hotmail.co.uk and possibly other domains due to users incorrectly reporting SPAM" |
| 20:10.44 | rhowe | heh, nice |
| 20:10.55 | rhowe | Sent by my old ISP (wiss.co.uk) to all email accounts on their mail server |
| 20:11.03 | AndrewBlack | Matthew and I were passing it a few weeks back so we went to ahve a look. I asked them if they were free that night. |
| 20:11.10 | wethrin | Aha |
| 20:11.24 | AndrewBlack | They must of put it in the diary becuase they rang me up (I had left a card) this morning. |
| 20:21.23 | wethrin | Excellent |
| 20:21.46 | wethrin | So the upstairs room is reserved? |
| 20:21.52 | George | wirble |
| 20:22.05 | wethrin | George: Come to the pub |
| 20:23.11 | SlayerXP | that's like saying "legionaires disease, come to the ventilation system!" |
| 20:23.22 | George | wethrin: when? |
| 20:23.58 | wethrin | tomorrow |
| 20:24.15 | George | sod off |
| 20:24.35 | wethrin | no? |
| 20:24.57 | George | no. |
| 20:25.08 | wethrin | wimp |
| 20:25.27 | George | gimp |
| 20:30.25 | wethrin | huh |
| 20:30.36 | George | wethrin is a pimp! |
| 20:53.18 | wethrin | what? |
| 21:02.40 | George | wethrin: dunno |
| 21:29.00 | Cope | video killed the radio star |
| 21:29.41 | rhowe | http://www.punchbaby.com/media/latrz/clips/cool/html/Steiner.htm |
| 21:30.13 | *** join/#gllug Erwin (n=erwin@pdpc/supporter/sustaining/Erwin) |
| 21:36.37 | Cope | hello rhowe |
| 21:36.41 | Cope | hello George |
| 21:36.44 | Cope | hello wethrin |
| 21:37.16 | George | hi |
| 21:37.21 | Cope | yo George |
| 21:37.26 | Cope | wat up dawg? |
| 21:37.33 | George | ... |
| 21:37.38 | Cope | i see |
| 21:37.41 | George | you disgust me |
| 21:37.58 | Cope | no, you're boring, you never enter my discussions. |
| 21:38.36 | Cope | Half Chinese, Half Korean |
| 21:38.44 | Cope | and lives in Toronto. |
| 21:38.50 | Cope | most interesting |
| 21:40.45 | George | you're weird |
| 21:48.34 | Cope | axiomatically |
| 21:53.38 | rhowe | http://www.punchbaby.com/media/latrz/clips/cool/html/lights.htm |
| 22:24.52 | *** join/#gllug AngelChild (n=Catalyst@allegro/user/angelchild) |
| 22:25.44 | George | HAHAHA IT'S ANGELCHILD |
| 22:25.50 | AngelChild | yo |
| 22:25.58 | George | the epitome of BLAH |
| 22:26.25 | George | BLAH! |
| 22:29.55 | Cope | hello AngelChild |
| 22:30.01 | AngelChild | heyo Cope :) |
| 22:30.33 | Cope | yo |
| 22:47.16 | AngelChild | George sounds like a really nice person from his blog... I am suspicious |
| 22:47.27 | George | AngelChild: ? |
| 22:47.45 | AngelChild | well |
| 22:47.50 | AngelChild | s/really nice/reasonable/ xD |
| 22:48.00 | George | ? |
| 22:48.06 | AngelChild | like... not a vicious cold hearted murderer of random people (ie me xD) |
| 22:48.49 | AngelChild | rofl |
| 22:49.32 | George | AngelChild: you suck |
| 22:49.38 | AngelChild | i do :-) |
| 22:51.38 | George | ... |
| 22:53.49 | George | I wonder who "jenni" is |
| 22:54.53 | George | Cope: she's probably, again, too young for you |
| 22:55.58 | George | seeing as she posted a comment on my blog about applying to warwick |
| 22:56.14 | Cope | George: Under 30 is too young |
| 22:57.12 | George | PREcisely |
| 23:29.07 | AngelChild | o.o |
| 23:31.05 | *** join/#gllug Tron___ (n=tron@scarygliders.net) |
| 23:38.20 | *** join/#gllug Leeds (n=richardc@ipvpn095206.netvigator.com) |
| 23:40.32 | Cope | aha |
| 23:40.34 | Cope | Leeds: |
| 23:41.46 | AngelChild | :o |
| 23:42.04 | Cope | woo AngelChild |
| 23:42.35 | Leeds | morning folks |
| 23:42.55 | Cope | yo Leeds |
| 23:43.43 | AngelChild | http://www.derekscholte.nl/GP2XForum/viewtopic.php?t=23 <--- hehe xD |
| 23:45.36 | Leeds | the most active 6 months in Israeli political history are still going strong :-( |
| 23:45.46 | AngelChild | :< |
| 23:47.54 | Leeds | Sharon is now down and out |
