| 00:11.23 | Leeds | boker tov kulam |
| 00:11.36 | mozrat | indeed |
| 00:11.57 | Leeds | ("mornin' all") |
| 00:13.44 | JAV | morning! |
| 00:13.46 | Leeds | there is something strange going on here... |
| 00:14.07 | Leeds | when I turn my 100% wired PC on, my wireless stops working |
| 00:14.20 | mozrat | hmm |
| 00:14.36 | Leeds | the only wireless thing on the PC is the mouse |
| 00:15.13 | mozrat | does the wireless device have an IP address? |
| 00:15.20 | Leeds | yes |
| 00:15.32 | Leeds | a 192.168 |
| 00:15.37 | mozrat | sorry to ask an obvious question, but is it conflicting with anything? |
| 00:15.41 | Leeds | no |
| 00:15.53 | Leeds | it's not an IP conflict - the link quality goes mad |
| 00:16.06 | mozrat | EMF? |
| 00:17.08 | Leeds | obviously, but a PC in a regular box shouldn't be putting out enough to swamp a connection... and it's not that the wireless drops to 0 and stays there - it bounces up to 100% for a few seconds, drops a bit, then goes to 0 for a while, then back up |
| 00:18.31 | mozrat | weird |
| 00:19.35 | Leeds | yes... |
| 00:20.11 | Leeds | I thought it could be another network on the same channel, a microwave, something like that - but the connection was stable this morning until I turned the PC on... |
| 00:20.24 | JAV | is it a full closed box? (faraday) |
| 00:21.03 | Leeds | the only other possible thing which comes to mind is a power issue... I've got a lot of stuff running off 3 sockets here, including the PC and the router/AP and I was wondering if something is browning out a bit |
| 00:21.13 | Leeds | it's closed... got a fan in the side, but otherwise solid |
| 00:21.19 | JAV | speakers? |
| 00:21.42 | Leeds | yes, although they were actually on all night anyway... let me try turning them off |
| 00:22.14 | Leeds | not the speakers |
| 00:24.56 | JAV | so you'll have to start with a basic conf (just cpu) and add things... or try tonight again :) |
| 00:25.40 | Leeds | at least if I know it's coming from the PC, I know that when the PC is off things should be stable |
| 00:26.37 | Leeds | and it's not my mouse, which I've just unplugged and taken the batteries out of |
| 00:26.48 | JAV | reboot the AP |
| 00:28.57 | Leeds | why? |
| 00:29.48 | JAV | why not? :D |
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| 00:31.46 | Leeds | well now... *something* didn't like me fiddling with the mouse... |
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| 01:00.15 | highbury | mozrat: did it work? |
| 01:01.09 | mozrat | highbury: I had to switch from HTTP to FTP |
| 01:01.12 | mozrat | it worked fine |
| 01:01.15 | mozrat | thanks again for your elp |
| 01:01.18 | mozrat | help |
| 01:01.36 | highbury | your welcome |
| 01:02.21 | highbury | nn folks |
| 01:02.29 | mozrat | me too |
| 01:02.29 | mozrat | mm |
| 01:02.30 | mozrat | nn |
| 01:05.40 | z00dax | looks like mozrat took most of the channel with him |
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| 01:05.45 | mozrat | yay! |
| 01:05.46 | mozrat | g'night all |
| 01:05.46 | Leeds | night |
| 01:06.03 | z00dax | nite mozrat |
| 01:31.35 | Leeds | and past time to go to work for me |
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| 06:32.50 | Leeds | http://www.masswerk.at/jsuix/ |
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| 07:12.16 | Leeds | morning mart |
| 07:12.58 | SlayerXP | yo |
| 07:13.07 | SlayerXP | fo sup ma niggaz? |
| 07:13.33 | SlayerXP | word! |
| 07:22.35 | Leeds | http://www.masswerk.at/jsuix/ |
| 07:24.26 | Leeds | there's some very strange throttling going on somewhere between me and ftp.mozilla.org - my download speeds up to about 200KB/s then drops to about 30 - getting a nice sawtooth picture on my ethernet usage graph |
| 07:38.41 | Leeds | George: so did you have fun? |
| 07:39.03 | George | where? |
| 07:40.13 | Leeds | at your open day |
| 07:41.03 | George | it sucked |
| 07:41.28 | George | not very surprising really |
| 07:42.07 | Leeds | because it wasn't oxford? |
| 07:45.06 | George | nah, because 6 hours of train journey surrounded it and I was likely to be pissed when I got there ;) |
| 07:45.59 | SlayerXP | George: don't they have oxygen on whatever planet you're from? |
| 07:46.13 | George | it's the next gen icon theme for kde |
| 07:46.30 | SlayerXP | KDE Themes: The Next Generation |
| 07:46.42 | SlayerXP | is one of the themes blad? |
| 07:46.46 | SlayerXP | bald |
| 07:46.51 | George | http://www.oxygen-icons.org/ |
| 07:47.20 | Leeds | you were drunk when you got there? |
| 07:47.29 | George | no |
| 07:47.43 | SlayerXP | how pointless. cramming more eyecandy on top of bloatware |
| 07:48.18 | SlayerXP | "but it's pretty!" "but it brings my dual opty 242 to its knees!" "but it's pretty!" |
| 07:48.50 | SlayerXP | i like the devices section |
| 07:48.57 | SlayerXP | "Devices icons are very realistic yet somber which provides clarity while not confusing the user with too many details. It is important to represent devices and media storage in a way that user will immediatly recognize them." |
| 07:49.10 | SlayerXP | so why does my laser printer look like an inkjet? |
| 07:49.43 | murb | because laser printers just don't look printer like enough. |
| 07:50.19 | SlayerXP | i was shocked to find my printer is now EOL |
| 07:50.20 | Leeds | because a printer is a class of device - the mechanism inside used for making marks on paper doesn't matter in that context |
| 07:50.26 | SlayerXP | it's the bestest printer ever to be made |
| 07:50.47 | SlayerXP | hp laserjet 4050n |
| 07:51.16 | SlayerXP | the only way I could make this better is if I bought a duplexer for it |
| 07:52.04 | murb | my ickle brother printer does duplex printing, and just works with cups etc. |
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| 07:56.48 | morsing | 'morning |
| 07:57.51 | morsing | Leeds? |
| 07:58.15 | SlayerXP | no, Sparbu, NOrway |
| 07:58.24 | morsing | Mmm... Norway |
| 07:58.43 | SlayerXP | Norway, Norway, so good they named it Norway. |
| 08:00.02 | Leeds | morning morsing |
| 08:01.52 | SlayerXP | i should set up a norway cam |
| 08:02.13 | George | I think I've just had a sata controller fail |
| 08:02.14 | George | nice. |
| 08:02.22 | morsing | A Norway scam? Selling snow? |
| 08:03.44 | Leeds | No way! scam? |
| 08:03.47 | murb | morsing: want to buy some snow? |
| 08:03.59 | morsing | murb: You german! |
| 08:04.33 | SlayerXP | hmm, I need a really long USB cable |
| 08:04.56 | morsing | SlayerXP: From Leeds to Norway? |
| 08:05.19 | SlayerXP | from my computer to my monitor which has an inbuitl USB hub |
| 08:05.28 | murb | nein, ich bin auslander. |
| 08:10.09 | SlayerXP | okay, driving me nuts. excuse me while I unplug a fan. |
| 08:10.33 | Leeds | you have a fan plugged into your nuts? |
| 08:10.48 | murb | Leeds: each to their own. |
| 08:10.58 | Cope | cor - not much tolerance there |
| 08:11.10 | Cope | clearly his computer overheated the second the fan was unplugged. |
| 08:11.17 | Cope | beethoven++ |
| 08:17.12 | Leeds | firefox 1.5 experiment time |
| 08:18.37 | Leeds | seems to work... |
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| 08:19.02 | SlayerXP | turns out the noise issues not from whence I thought |
| 08:19.13 | SlayerXP | luckily I ordered a VGA cooler/silencer, too |
| 08:22.21 | Leeds | and... there's a new preferences window, of course |
| 08:33.00 | Leeds | seems to be a working browser... |
| 08:34.53 | Cope | and this surprises you because.... |
| 08:35.06 | SlayerXP | ....he's a gentoo user |
| 08:35.13 | Cope | *snort* |
| 08:35.14 | SlayerXP | he's used to having a half-compiled borwser |
| 08:36.43 | mozrat | Morning |
| 08:36.49 | Cope | hello mozrat |
| 08:36.54 | Cope | are you working tomorrow? |
| 08:37.28 | mozrat | hey cope, no. |
| 08:38.27 | mozrat | where are you today? |
| 08:38.44 | Cope | at home... |
| 08:39.16 | Cope | mozrat is correct |
| 08:39.25 | mozrat | w00t - wins on a technicality |
| 08:39.29 | Leeds | SlayerXP: I'm not a gentoo user... firefox has had serious variety in levels of usefulness and stability in the past, and this is rc3 not a full release |
| 08:42.02 | SlayerXP | mmmdeeer |
| 08:42.07 | mozrat | Cope, you've mentioned this before. What is it? |
| 08:42.11 | SlayerXP | there's a deer factory just up the road |
| 08:42.21 | Leeds | mozrat: deer park is the codename for firefox 1.5 |
| 08:42.26 | mozrat | ahh |
| 08:42.26 | SlayerXP | dozens of deer gambol free over the fields and fjords |
| 08:42.30 | Cope | mozrat: what Leeds said |
| 08:42.33 | SlayerXP | and then get shot and eaten |
| 08:42.40 | Leeds | SlayerXP: how do deer gambol in fjords? |
| 08:42.55 | SlayerXP | Leeds: they get issued with water wings |
| 08:43.03 | Cope | Leeds: well, it depends on house rules, but you know the score... antes and the like |
| 08:43.31 | Leeds | ah, fair enough... typical scandanavian practicality |
| 08:43.42 | *** mode/#gllug [+o Cope] by ChanServ |
| 08:44.10 | Leeds | this firefox feels quick to me - scrolling, tab-changing and so forth |
| 08:44.18 | *** topic/#gllug by Cope -> Greater London Linux Users Group - see http://gllug.org.uk and http://planet.gllug.org.uk | Next Event: To be announced. |
| 08:44.46 | *** mode/#gllug [-o Cope] by ChanServ |
| 08:44.56 | mozrat | nice one, Cope |
| 08:45.36 | SlayerXP | is there a link to my FAQ from the official site? |
| 08:46.09 | mozrat | SlayerXP: There is from the "very nearly official site to be made live soon" |
| 08:46.16 | SlayerXP | url? |
| 08:46.22 | mozrat | gllug.ukfsn.org |
| 08:46.37 | mozrat | should be done this weekend now I'm not working |
| 08:46.51 | SlayerXP | yuck |
| 08:47.07 | SlayerXP | thankyou for using the design format I hate the most on the internet |
| 08:47.18 | Leeds | oh, mambo |
| 08:47.27 | murb | ooh doom. |
| 08:47.34 | Leeds | mozrat: please please, change the favicon |
| 08:47.42 | mozrat | Leeds: yes, on the list |
| 08:48.04 | SlayerXP | the one that says "I know you have a huge display and that you browse full screen, so I'm going to use the world's tiniest window in the middle of your borwser rather than letting you decide what size you want your content. motherfucker." |
| 08:48.29 | Leeds | and could be the browser, but the buttons at the top, and the Back button in the body, are broken |
| 08:48.31 | murb | SlayerXP: well since they know all these things, why not? |
| 08:48.34 | Leeds | they are the wrong size |
| 08:48.51 | mozrat | it might not be this weekend then :) |
| 08:49.35 | SlayerXP | also, it's look _shite_ in a text only browser |
| 08:50.05 | SlayerXP | arrrrgh |
| 08:50.21 | SlayerXP | you also break the "opening a new window without warning the user" rule |
| 08:50.36 | SlayerXP | never _ever_ open a new window unless you user asks for it |
| 08:50.36 | mozrat | for the planet link? |
| 08:50.43 | SlayerXP | for the faq link |
| 08:50.48 | mozrat | yeah, that was on my list too |
| 08:51.29 | SlayerXP | "Copyright 2000 - 2005 Miro International Pty Ltd." |
| 08:51.32 | SlayerXP | errrm "no" |
| 08:51.42 | morsing | Yo - Check it! |
| 08:51.55 | SlayerXP | even more reason you need creative input :) |
| 08:52.12 | mozrat | SlayerXP: Yes, it is appreciated. I share the concern about the size |
| 08:52.29 | mozrat | I'm not sure Mambo is the best fit (or that template) |
| 08:52.37 | Cope | mozrat: aww, mrs mozrat thinks its fine |
| 08:52.48 | mozrat | Cope: ? |
| 08:52.59 | Cope | mozrat: you don't need to be concerned about its size... |
| 08:53.12 | mozrat | Cope, you haven't seen it :( |
| 08:53.15 | highbury | cope: the next meeting is in december |
| 08:53.19 | Cope | highbury: i know |
| 08:53.20 | SlayerXP | i hate the navigation |
| 08:53.21 | Cope | just saw |
| 08:53.31 | Cope | i didn't have the exact date |
| 08:53.42 | SlayerXP | what's with the random three links top right that do the same as the menu links on the lefT? |
| 08:54.18 | *** mode/#gllug [+o Cope] by ChanServ |
| 08:55.34 | *** topic/#gllug by Cope -> Greater London Linux Users Group - see http://gllug.org.uk and http://planet.gllug.org.uk | Next Event: 10th December - Meet Novell/SUSE - Westminster Uni 1.30pm - 5.30pm |
| 08:55.59 | highbury | ahh the suse event hasn't been confirmed yet |
| 08:56.26 | Cope | now you tell me! |
| 08:56.29 | highbury | I suspect that will be rescheduled to springtime |
| 08:56.44 | Leeds | will there be anyone left there by springtime? |
| 08:56.50 | highbury | aren't you on gllugadmin mailing list? |
| 08:57.07 | Cope | highbury: yes... but I can't remember everything! |
| 08:57.21 | Cope | that's why we have other helpful people around, like you :) |
| 08:57.45 | highbury | ok |
| 08:57.50 | SlayerXP | i don't get what the "Event Review" thing is meant to do |
| 08:58.10 | SlayerXP | it's talk about "past events" but lists those in the future. |
| 08:58.13 | mozrat | SlayerXP: It will hold reviews of past events |
| 08:58.26 | *** topic/#gllug by Cope -> Greater London Linux Users Group - see http://gllug.org.uk and http://planet.gllug.org.uk | Next Event: In December, according to highbury. |
| 08:58.38 | morsing | Is there a Gllug X-mas do? |
| 08:58.42 | Cope | dunno |
| 08:58.46 | Cope | we should have one maybe? |
| 08:59.04 | mozrat | There was talk of one after a talk by Robin someone on Linux in films |
| 08:59.13 | mozrat | nothing organised |
| 08:59.20 | mozrat | Robin Rowe IIRC |
| 08:59.23 | SlayerXP | you're slecome to come over for drinkies |
| 08:59.26 | SlayerXP | welcome |
| 08:59.27 | Cope | yes robin rowe |
| 08:59.38 | SlayerXP | good luck finding th ehouse. |
| 08:59.39 | gregj | how should I understand this sentence " circle the drain some more ", one of the emploees on fireing another one |
| 08:59.59 | mozrat | gregj: it means you are fired. Clear your desk and leave the building |
| 09:00.04 | mozrat | :) |
| 09:00.21 | mozrat | gregj: I dunno - that doesn't make any sense to me |
| 09:00.27 | Cope | nor me |
| 09:01.36 | gregj | |<kevin> they fired tim |
| 09:01.36 | gregj | |<kevin> whee |
| 09:01.36 | gregj | |<kevin> circle the drain some more |
| 09:02.05 | gregj | I don't get it |
| 09:02.48 | Leeds | gregj: when your pet fish dies... you throw it in the toilet... where it circles the drain a few times before vanishing forever |
| 09:03.02 | gregj | oh |
| 09:03.15 | gregj | now I got it |
| 09:03.16 | gregj | thanks |
| 09:03.23 | Leeds | I hope you don't get it |
| 09:08.58 | morsing | <PROTECTED> |
| 09:09.00 | gregj | the thing is, current directors of company I am working for started fireing some ppl out, and Kev here and I are bit worried about R&D future |
| 09:12.47 | SlayerXP | milk& |
| 09:13.25 | mozrat | gregj: where do you work? |
| 09:13.59 | Leeds | http://www.timesonline.co.uk/article/0,,2-1876066,00.html#cid=OTC-RSS&attr=Britain |
| 09:15.13 | gregj | mozrat: some voip company |
| 09:15.27 | morsing | I thought voip was dead? |
| 09:15.44 | Leeds | morsing: what? |
| 09:16.56 | morsing | Leeds: I thought voip was dead? |
| 09:17.44 | Leeds | what are you talking about? how is voip dead? |
| 09:17.58 | morsing | Leeds: Well, no-one is really using it?! |
| 09:18.10 | Leeds | millions of people are |
| 09:18.24 | morsing | Really? |
| 09:18.30 | mozrat | *nods* |
| 09:18.56 | mozrat | my company is in the process of routing all of it's outbound calls out of one building in London |
| 09:19.08 | mozrat | from every UK office |
| 09:19.16 | Leeds | hmm... tag-dragging |
| 09:28.32 | SlayerXP | err skypes |
| 09:29.25 | Leeds | so you're happy using proprietary communications protocols? |
| 09:29.52 | SlayerXP | perfectly. |
| 09:30.22 | SlayerXP | it's simple, free (as in beer) and works better than pretty much anything else on the market |
| 09:31.10 | Leeds | okay, now what are the chances of bulldog having reused my IP since I cancelled a few months ago? |
| 09:31.14 | SlayerXP | runs on linux just fine |
| 09:32.19 | Leeds | because there seems to be a connexant-chipset ADSL modem on it :-) |
| 09:33.10 | Leeds | hmm... I'd have thought you'd be more into something open, being a Debian freak and all |
| 09:33.34 | SlayerXP | i'm into whatever works best |
| 09:33.38 | SlayerXP | debian works best, so I use it. |
| 09:33.52 | SlayerXP | skype works best, so I use it. |
| 09:34.17 | Leeds | ah, okay - I had you down as a Stallmanite |
| 09:34.37 | SlayerXP | hardly. |
| 09:37.33 | Leeds | sorry |
| 09:39.05 | Leeds | morsing: anyway... ebay bought skype for billions of $ - and skype is a voip company, pure and simple |
| 09:40.16 | morsing | When at a prompt, entering a period cancels the command. |
| 09:41.16 | SlayerXP | that must make doing anything with the current directory tricky |
| 09:41.20 | SlayerXP | ls . |
| 09:41.22 | SlayerXP | DAMN! |
| 09:44.11 | Leeds | hmm... we appear to be skipping out of work a little early so my cousin can go smartphone-shopping :-) |
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| 09:46.07 | Leeds | have a good rest_of_day all |
| 09:46.17 | Leeds | hello, good evening and goodbye lanky |
| 09:48.11 | gregj | bb |
| 10:09.44 | Cope | means |
| 10:10.17 | Cope | hello lanky |
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| 10:17.04 | morsing | Hi again |
| 10:17.23 | morsing | Is there a shell command that removes the last character from a string? |
| 10:17.29 | morsing | Or regexp? |
| 10:18.35 | stephen | sed -e 's/.$//' |
| 10:19.12 | morsing | Thanks |
| 10:19.19 | SlayerXP | <PROTECTED> |
| 10:19.37 | lanky | morning all |
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| 10:19.55 | lanky | it seems I am being rude by not responding to greetings. sorry. :) |
| 10:20.17 | lanky | I;m trying to read 8 IRC channels at once... |
| 10:20.21 | Cope | 8!! |
| 10:20.27 | Cope | I currently have 28 |
| 10:20.35 | lanky | oooooh |
| 10:21.02 | lanky | I'm also *very*distracted by folk at work who seem to want me to*do* stuff |
| 10:21.06 | lanky | inconsiderate, really |
| 10:21.13 | lanky | ;-) |
| 10:21.49 | Cope | maybe some of tese are /m,sg though |
| 10:23.00 | morsing | stephen, SlayerXP: Thanks for the effort but neither of your commands actually do anything |
| 10:23.29 | stephen | works here |
| 10:23.29 | SlayerXP | rubbish |
| 10:23.29 | stephen | stephen@turtle:~$ echo foobar | sed -e 's/.$//' |
| 10:23.31 | stephen | fooba |
| 10:23.51 | SlayerXP | martin@winter:~$ perl -e '$s="foo"; $s=substr($s,0,length($s-1)); print "$s\n";' |
| 10:23.51 | SlayerXP | fo |
| 10:24.19 | SlayerXP | denying the blatantly obvious |
| 10:24.29 | SlayerXP | you are Henry Gilbery, and I claim my five pounds |
| 10:24.32 | SlayerXP | Gilbert |
| 10:24.56 | morsing | SlayerXP: Well, it must operate on a shell variable |
| 10:25.21 | SlayerXP | i write all "shell scripts" in perl. |
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| 10:25.57 | SlayerXP | kbsingh: you work for xinit? nice guys. |
| 10:26.02 | SlayerXP | how is rafi? |
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| 10:26.33 | kbsingh | SlayerXP hi |
| 10:26.38 | Cope | hi kb |
| 10:26.42 | Cope | yo ProperMadDad |
| 10:26.49 | kbsingh | rafiu is good - doing this thing |
| 10:26.49 | ProperMadDad | Hi Cope |
| 10:26.57 | kbsingh | cope! ProperMadDad! |
| 10:27.18 | ProperMadDad | hi kbsingh |
| 10:27.27 | ProperMadDad | and hello to all |
| 10:27.38 | Cope | kbsingh: after what we said about redhat support and qla drivers..... they are now saying they won't do *anything* until I blow away the 3rd party drivers and use their ones. |
| 10:27.58 | Cope | kbsingh: they won't support a 'tainted' system |
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| 10:28.10 | SlayerXP | Cope: me either. |
| 10:28.16 | Cope | SlayerXP: :P |
| 10:28.26 | Cope | indeed |
| 10:28.28 | ProperMadDad | I can't support my own system |
| 10:29.26 | kbsingh | Cope, will they get their drivers working for multipath in that case ? |
| 10:29.39 | kbsingh | { you mentioned this being reason for HP drivers, right ? } |
| 10:30.01 | SlayerXP | you know, I am up _to here_ with fucking stupid redhat morons |
| 10:30.24 | SlayerXP | I have some idiot bleating at me about how he can't get his video card to have 3d acceleration using RHEL |
| 10:30.53 | SlayerXP | "ask redhat for support, that's a commercial product" doesn't seem to be getting the required clue across |
| 10:31.13 | SlayerXP | i.e. he's a warez kiddie who thoughtit'd be cool to run "enterprise linux" on his self-built poxy home "server" |
| 10:32.43 | mozrat | SlayerXP: is it subscribed to RHN (i.e. did he pay for it?) |
| 10:32.48 | SlayerXP | "but without a 3d accelerated GUI, I can;t use KI'mTooStupidToUseAComputerGUI!!!!" |
| 10:33.03 | SlayerXP | mozrat: of course not. |
| 10:33.26 | mozrat | SlayerXP: then tell him he is running illegal software (for the trademark and copyright reasons) and you don't want to deal with him |
| 10:33.27 | SlayerXP | he;s installed RHEL, then updated it with packages from all over the Internet, and wonders why his system is fucked. |
| 10:33.40 | SlayerXP | mozrat: I have, several times :) |
| 10:33.42 | mozrat | I asked RH about this - you stop paying them, you stop using the system |
| 10:34.04 | SlayerXP | mozrat: I've just sent a reply along the lines of "fuck off, welcome to my kill file" |
| 10:34.11 | SlayerXP | hopefully that'll solve the problem |
| 10:34.20 | mozrat | SlayerXP: was it to you directly or another mailing list? |
| 10:34.30 | morsing | Hmm... Spot the deliberate mistake: |
| 10:34.32 | morsing | http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=4590504310&rd=1&sspagename=STRK%3AMEWA%3AIT&rd=1 |
| 10:34.49 | SlayerXP | directly to me. FOAF work that I'm regreting agreeing to do. |
| 10:35.14 | mozrat | Yes, FOAF is never a winner |
| 10:35.23 | SlayerXP | unpaid FOAF work, I might add. |
| 10:38.28 | mozrat | morsing: go on? |
| 10:53.37 | morsing | mozrat: Go on what? |
| 10:53.45 | morsing | Ahhh... the mistake>? |
| 10:54.44 | morsing | It says "Engine size 2664" at the top |
| 10:54.45 | mozrat | yes |
| 10:55.02 | morsing | But in the description he says the engine has been replaced with a four cylinder |
| 10:55.20 | mozrat | I see |
| 10:55.58 | morsing | mozrat: Anyway - look at section 7.2: |
| 10:55.59 | morsing | <PROTECTED> |
| 11:03.31 | *** join/#gllug formi (n=rc@82-35-232-163.cable.ubr01.camd.blueyonder.co.uk) |
| 11:03.48 | formi | allo! |
| 11:05.43 | ProperMadDad | have the people with blueyonder had there speeds increased yet ? |
| 11:06.03 | formi | me |
| 11:06.06 | morsing | formi! |
| 11:06.11 | formi | went from 1mb to 4mb |
| 11:06.39 | formi | its a joy when things come down the pipe at 400kb/s |
| 11:06.41 | ProperMadDad | were still waiting for the upgrades in the wigan area |
| 11:06.53 | kbsingh | 4mb ? is blueyonder on on llu ? |
| 11:07.05 | ProperMadDad | I'm on 4mb at the moment |
| 11:07.12 | formi | kbsingh: blueyonder = cable |
| 11:07.26 | kbsingh | formi, what about uplink ? its no joy when it takes 2 days to upload something at 28k |
| 11:07.28 | ProperMadDad | wait for the 10mb |
| 11:07.40 | kbsingh | formi, ah of-course. |
| 11:07.54 | formi | uplink has moved from 128kbits to 384kbits |
| 11:08.06 | kbsingh | that still sux |
| 11:08.23 | formi | it's better than most ADSLs |
| 11:08.36 | kbsingh | me too! |
| 11:08.41 | ProperMadDad | and me |
| 11:08.42 | morsing | Or cheaper SDSL! |
| 11:09.03 | formi | does anybody know where to find a good email policy paper? |
| 11:09.03 | kbsingh | I say scrap adsl completely - move to SDSL at the ADSL prices :) |
| 11:09.21 | lanky | what, you mean like large parts of the rest of Europe? |
| 11:09.37 | SlayerXP | formi: I'll write one for you if you like |
| 11:10.01 | lanky | I hear there are some very attractive pricing policies in parts of Germany and the Netherlands |
| 11:10.02 | formi | my MD just decided he wants everybody to include his own email address as part of the signature |
| 11:11.37 | formi | I am not happy with that |
| 11:13.06 | kbsingh | people should use their own email id's or the MD's email id in their own signatures ? |
| 11:13.47 | lanky | I wasn't clear about that either |
| 11:20.17 | murb | lanky: not in .de |
| 11:21.21 | murb | lanky: I think i'm paying ~60 euro / month for 6mb down 6xxkb up + isdn(inc flat rate to german fixed network.) |
| 11:24.09 | lanky | murb: 6mb down is not all that bad |
| 11:24.30 | lanky | ut still roughly 600k up. expensive. |
| 11:24.33 | lanky | fairenough |
| 11:24.51 | highbury | re |
| 11:25.10 | murb | lanky: oh and not a static ip in sight. |
| 11:25.29 | lanky | which part of Germany is that, then? |
| 11:25.52 | murb | lanky: Wiesbaden, hessen |
| 11:25.53 | lanky | I heard some goood things aout stuttgart... |
| 11:26.20 | lanky | maybe I'd just had too much hefe at the time |
| 11:30.17 | murb | lanky: german dsl prices oftern look cheaper because you have to pay an ISP for the BW and seperatly a telephone company for the DSL on the line. |
| 11:31.32 | lanky | murb: fair enough. /me is obviously underinformed :) |
| 11:32.23 | murb | lanky: or the grass is always greener? |
| 11:32.31 | morsing | Leeds: what's the name of the famous HK piggy cartoon characters? |
| 11:32.34 | lanky | murb: very likely |
| 11:32.37 | morsing | Mc-something |
| 11:32.43 | morsing | McMoo? |
| 11:33.21 | morsing | Leeds? |
| 11:45.22 | gregj | http://www.zlew.org/oops/ |
| 11:45.27 | gregj | my mac just oopsed! |
| 11:52.36 | mozrat | I've had that once on a USB device insertion |
| 11:55.12 | gregj | that's on attempt to grab stuff from my cammera |
| 12:07.02 | George | bloody hard disks suck |
| 12:09.27 | gregj | yeah, they do |
| 12:09.40 | gregj | I find mac os x sucking more and more with time |
| 12:10.41 | kbsingh | gregj, what sort of a machine ? |
| 12:11.06 | gregj | minimac |
| 12:11.16 | gregj | this thing is so sloooow |
| 12:11.26 | gregj | I hate bloody beachball |
| 12:11.30 | kbsingh | move to Linux on that machine, it will be slow no more |
| 12:11.52 | gregj | I have linux on it as well |
| 12:11.57 | gregj | it is much better |
| 12:12.05 | kbsingh | *nod* |
| 12:12.23 | gregj | I like mac os x in it self, but it requires much faster hardware than what mini provides |
| 12:12.31 | kbsingh | not really |
| 12:12.52 | kbsingh | OSX is slow, visually lithargic ( sp? ) on pretty much any machine |
| 12:13.09 | gregj | I think it works perfectly well on PM |
| 12:13.30 | gregj | we have iMacs at work, and those are pretty slow as well, but only 256MB of ram (joke) |
| 12:13.52 | kbsingh | I am sitting here on a 2 way G5 2.0 Ghz machine, I'd race my Linux box to your OSX box if you like |
| 12:14.24 | gregj | is it running linux ? |
| 12:14.28 | kbsingh | I have 2 gigs of ram in this machine, and Linux is still faster / more reliable than OSX ( not that I use osx much anymore ) |
| 12:29.42 | kbsingh | so.. whats the general feeling in #gllug - dovecot or cyrusimapd ? |
| 12:35.26 | mozrat | or courier-imap |
| 12:41.19 | mikejw | lo |
| 12:41.24 | mozrat | hey mikejw |
| 12:42.26 | mikejw | mozrat: hey :) |
| 12:52.22 | wethrin | Good man |
| 12:52.31 | mikejw | :D |
| 12:52.40 | wethrin | Was it good booze you had? |
| 12:52.53 | mikejw | probably too good |
| 12:53.04 | mikejw | it was green and strong |
| 12:53.36 | wethrin | Jägermeister? |
| 12:53.58 | mikejw | yeah something like that |
| 12:54.08 | wethrin | Hm. Drunk student party? :) |
| 12:54.32 | mikejw | no more destructive |
| 12:54.46 | mikejw | :) |
| 12:54.48 | wethrin | Very drunk student party? :) |
| 12:55.34 | mikejw | well as a mature student I made an effort to find more responsible people to hang out with |
| 12:56.01 | wethrin | How mature are students? |
| 12:56.22 | wethrin | Was it the London.pm event last night? |
| 12:56.28 | mikejw | depends on the life experience I guess |
| 12:56.33 | wethrin | yar |
| 12:56.41 | mikejw | oh I don't think so what's that? |
| 12:56.56 | wethrin | The Frameworks Evening that was announced |
| 12:57.04 | mikejw | oh! |
| 12:57.19 | wethrin | London.pm is the London Perlmongers group. Their social meetings are the Thursday after the first Wednesday of the month |
| 12:57.21 | mikejw | yeah I was really in two minds with what to do |
| 12:57.24 | wethrin | And it involves BOOZE |
| 12:57.33 | mikejw | lol perl = booze |
| 12:57.34 | wethrin | I'll be there for the January meeting |
| 12:57.54 | wethrin | yes, and they almost never talk about Perl |
| 12:58.15 | mikejw | interesting |
| 12:58.25 | wethrin | Yup |
| 12:58.48 | morsing | wethrin |
| 12:58.49 | morsing | 1! |
| 12:58.54 | wethrin | morzing! |
| 12:59.19 | mikejw | my problem is that my other life, it seems, is as as a reckless musician |
| 12:59.29 | wethrin | That also involves booze, doesn't it? |
| 12:59.35 | mikejw | apparently so |
| 12:59.39 | wethrin | Good good |
| 12:59.42 | mikejw | :D |
| 13:00.03 | wethrin | Thinking of booze, I should probably head to lunch |
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| 13:00.32 | morsing | boudiccas! |
| 13:00.51 | boudiccas | morsing; hiyas :) |
| 13:01.04 | boudiccas | just sorting out my computer after moving over to centos 4.2 |
| 13:11.56 | morsing | How is it I start tcpdump to collect for ethereal? |
| 13:16.49 | *** join/#gllug Leeds (n=richardc@ipvpn095206.netvigator.com) |
| 13:18.49 | Leeds | evening all |
| 13:20.06 | boudiccas | Leeds; morning :) |
| 13:20.42 | Leeds | morning??? |
| 13:21.37 | boudiccas | well, technically its the afternoon here in the UK :) |
| 13:22.04 | George | I have an offer from Durham |
| 13:22.07 | George | wethrin will be pleased |
| 13:22.14 | Leeds | so why did you say good morning? |
| 13:22.26 | boudiccas | because i haven't had my dinner yet |
| 13:22.33 | George | it's lunch |
| 13:22.35 | George | LUNCH |
| 13:22.44 | mikejw | mmm.. lunch |
| 13:22.56 | Leeds | George: I quite liked the town and Uni in Durham, but I was quite put off when the answer to "and is there XXXXX in Durham?" tended to be "no, but there's a train to Newcastle" |
| 13:23.03 | George | I'm in the middle of eating lunch. what position does that put me in? |
| 13:23.06 | boudiccas | to a southerner it may be lunch, but to a northerner its 'dinner' :) |
| 13:23.30 | George | I'm hardly a southerner |
| 13:23.49 | George | anyway, durham's offered me AAB |
| 13:24.01 | Leeds | boudiccas: ahem... I call it lunch |
| 13:24.12 | boudiccas | if i want to use the 'memoir' package with latex on centos 4.2, where should i install it please? |
| 13:25.06 | boudiccas | Leeds; no problem, i'll call it 'dinner' :)))) |
| 13:25.17 | Leeds | boudiccas: kbs ingh is our local centos expert |
| 13:25.44 | Leeds | and wethrin is probably our local latex expert :-) |
| 13:25.48 | George | I wonder why I haven't heard anything at all from York or St Andrews yet |
| 13:26.00 | boudiccas | Leeds; thanks, i hope he knows because atm this is a show stopper |
| 13:26.11 | Leeds | George: why would you care what they say? |
| 13:26.19 | George | Leeds: well, I applied to them |
| 13:26.25 | Leeds | boudiccas: you might want to call his name... |
| 13:26.43 | boudiccas | ok, ty |
| 13:26.45 | George | WETHRIN |
| 13:26.56 | boudiccas | weth; |
| 13:26.59 | Leeds | I meant the other him |
| 13:27.00 | boudiccas | wethrin; hello |
| 13:27.36 | Leeds | kbsingh: ping |
| 13:28.03 | boudiccas | wake kbsingh |
| 13:28.18 | Leeds | ibot wake kbsingh and wethrin |
| 13:28.23 | ibot | kbsingh and wethrin: GOOD MORNING!!! |
| 13:28.23 | boudiccas | kbsingh; wake up please? :) |
| 13:28.31 | boudiccas | Leeds; thats the caommand i was looking for |
| 13:29.25 | Leeds | IRC is great as a real-time thing... but it also has the downside of being a real-time thing... |
| 13:30.03 | kbsingh | fish ? |
| 13:30.05 | boudiccas | Leeds; its also folks dinner-time too, so they could be out |
| 13:30.22 | boudiccas | kbsingh; can you help me please with a centos question? |
| 13:30.43 | kbsingh | boudiccas, sure - I'll try |
| 13:30.52 | boudiccas | kbsingh; if i want to use the 'memoir' package with latex, where should i install it please? |
| 13:30.59 | boudiccas | under centos 4.2 |
| 13:31.06 | kbsingh | I dont know - but i can find out - this is on i386 / |
| 13:31.09 | kbsingh | ? |
| 13:31.11 | boudiccas | yes |
| 13:31.49 | boudiccas | kbsingh; i've tried putting it under '/usr/share/texmf/tex/latex/memoir' but its not being recognised |
| 13:33.50 | kbsingh | boudiccas, let me dig up some info and get back to you - need to get into a meeting right now, be back in about an hours time |
| 13:33.58 | boudiccas | k, ty |
| 14:00.40 | JAV | good afternoon! |
| 14:01.41 | Leeds | firefox is linking... |
| 14:07.27 | JAV | lastest firefox means saying goodbye to some plugins |
| 14:12.02 | Leeds | I've got a total of 2 out of 10 failed to run |
| 14:16.10 | JAV | not bad, I have 3 out of 6 failed to run with... 1.4.99+1.5rc1.dfsg-1 (debian) |
| 14:17.09 | JAV | it's not a big problem for me |
| 14:17.35 | JAV | lunch time! |
| 14:19.09 | JAV | http://www.gchart.com/index.php --> world time |
| 14:19.37 | Leeds | this is 1.5rc3 |
| 14:19.49 | Leeds | which identifies as 1.5 |
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| 14:39.46 | boudiccas | kbsingh; Sorted it! I didn't know I had to 'texhash' to rebuild the package database, but I've done it and its now working. Thanks anyway :) |
| 14:55.33 | kbsingh | boudiccas, cool. nothing to thank me for, I didnt do a thing as yet :) |
| 14:55.39 | kbsingh | btw, you might want to let euclid know.... |
| 14:57.00 | wethrin | Hello? |
| 15:07.43 | morsing | Hello? |
| 15:11.06 | wethrin | Hello |
| 15:22.37 | kbsingh | hello |
| 15:26.31 | Cope | hello |
| 15:26.50 | Cope | is there anybody in there? |
| 15:35.43 | mozrat | am I too late to say "Hello"? |
| 15:36.13 | wethrin | Yes |
| 15:36.25 | SlayerXP | is it me you're looking for? |
| 15:37.04 | SlayerXP | the new website is still horrible. |
| 15:37.33 | SlayerXP | and, arguably, a mailing list isn't an online discussion |
| 15:37.37 | SlayerXP | at best it's nearline |
| 15:38.06 | mozrat | Are you still picking holes in that? It's been over 6 hours now |
| 15:38.17 | SlayerXP | i just got from errands |
| 15:38.39 | mozrat | SlayerXP: are you on the admin list? |
| 15:38.52 | SlayerXP | nope. I'm not an admin |
| 15:39.42 | mozrat | neither am I, but you are correct about that site. If it doesn't render in text mode browsers or scale text very well it isn't really what we preach |
| 15:39.58 | SlayerXP | what's the source of that backdrop? is it a royalty-free image? |
| 15:40.22 | SlayerXP | feel free to pass along my carpings :) |
| 15:40.27 | mozrat | I will :) |
| 15:40.54 | SlayerXP | why is the online discussion / meetings / resources stuff linked from the "Home" text block |
| 15:41.01 | SlayerXP | that's what the left menu is for, no? |
| 15:41.35 | SlayerXP | and what's with the buttons anyway? |
| 15:41.42 | SlayerXP | | this is a button | |
| 15:42.12 | mozrat | sorry - phone |
| 15:42.28 | SlayerXP | that's okay, I can carp for hours without input from others :) |
| 15:44.30 | mozrat | Gilbert has an interesting business model - will work for Roast Dinners |
| 15:45.34 | morsing | Who is Michelle Croxon? |
| 15:45.44 | SlayerXP | i'm avoiding commenting. he's using slackware. |
| 15:48.58 | mozrat | morsing: I give up, who is Michelle Croxon |
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| 16:36.53 | Cope | aha rhowe |
| 16:40.04 | *** join/#gllug pie (n=pie@browse.net-serv.co.uk) |
| 16:41.01 | pie | Hello! |
| 16:41.42 | pie | Anyone know how to find the AGP version of a motherboard? |
| 16:44.26 | formi | pie: do you have it in front of you? |
| 16:44.38 | pie | Yep |
| 16:44.57 | formi | find the slot |
| 16:45.02 | pie | Yep |
| 16:45.13 | formi | they usually have the rev number written nearby |
| 16:45.19 | pie | OK |
| 16:47.09 | pie | Not that I can see. |
| 16:48.29 | formi | can you find the mb product code? |
| 16:48.35 | formi | be back in 5 |
| 16:50.50 | pie | OK |
| 16:54.42 | wethrin | PIE! |
| 16:55.47 | pie | Hmmmm, pie |
| 16:55.54 | pie | you like pie? |
| 16:55.56 | pie | we like pie. |
| 16:56.07 | wethrin | I had pie for lunch |
| 16:56.14 | pie | saucy. |
| 16:56.19 | wethrin | indeed |
| 16:56.23 | pie | OK, there are no manufacturers markingss on the board. |
| 17:02.12 | morsing | mozrat: Don't know. She sent a mail to IT systems at Camelot (which is a lot of people) asking what type of firewall we use. |
| 17:05.23 | pie | Is it a piewall? |
| 17:17.25 | Cope | "what you should have asked was: I have a laptop running ubuntu, and I am trying to get a flatbed scanner working...." |
| 17:18.15 | wethrin | heh |
| 17:20.48 | Cope | wethrin: george might go to durham when cambridge realise he's just a hot-house, boring, posh, geek. |
| 17:21.05 | wethrin | Yeah, but he'd only be taken by Castle or Hatfield |
| 17:21.19 | pie | But I don't have any of those problems... <wibble> |
| 17:21.49 | Cope | wethrin: when is your xmas vac? |
| 17:21.53 | Cope | how long is it? |
| 17:21.59 | George | Cope: what? |
| 17:22.12 | Cope | George: ah.... there you are |
| 17:22.12 | George | wethrin: I've been accepted by the "16th college" whatever the fuck that is |
| 17:22.12 | wethrin | Cope: Whenever I want, sort of |
| 17:22.17 | wethrin | George: Ha! |
| 17:22.22 | George | sorry - was on the phone |
| 17:22.23 | wethrin | It's the one without a name |
| 17:22.29 | Cope | was an 'is george idling' test |
| 17:22.29 | wethrin | Nicknamed Benedict by some |
| 17:22.34 | George | wethrin: what??? |
| 17:22.39 | wethrin | It's the one without a name |
| 17:22.40 | wethrin | Nicknamed Benedict by some |
| 17:22.57 | George | van mildert |
| 17:23.12 | wethrin | Cope: I'm going to be in Köln between 16th and 20th of December; haven't decided if I'm going back up to Durham between then and Christmas, or not |
| 17:23.15 | George | interesting. it's in "mill hill lane". |
| 17:23.19 | George | I live in Mill Hill |
| 17:23.24 | George | I bet that's why they chose it for me |
| 17:23.25 | George | haha |
| 17:23.36 | wethrin | Cope: And then returning to Durham in January |
| 17:23.48 | wethrin | George: You got accepted by Mildert *and* Benedict? |
| 17:24.03 | George | wethrin: I dunno |
| 17:24.06 | Cope | wethrin: well... we must diarise a meeting |
| 17:24.24 | wethrin | Cope: Yes, yes we must. In fact, come to Köln! |
| 17:24.25 | Cope | wethrin: and... in the new year I want to come up and stay with you, drink beer and go for a nice walk |
| 17:24.37 | George | wethrin: the postmark says "Van Mildert College" |
| 17:24.51 | wethrin | Ahh....maybe they're doing the entrance admin |
| 17:24.54 | George | wethrin: the letter says "I am pleased to inform you that we are making you an offer of a place at Durham's 16th College" |
| 17:24.57 | wethrin | Okay |
| 17:25.07 | wethrin | The 16th college is still a building site |
| 17:25.12 | George | ah |
| 17:25.13 | Cope | George: did you even turn up? |
| 17:25.14 | George | it's the new one? |
| 17:25.17 | George | Cope: to where? |
| 17:25.20 | wethrin | Just to warn you that the buildings are likely to break within the first year |
| 17:25.22 | wethrin | George: Yes |
| 17:25.22 | Cope | George: the durham open day |
| 17:25.28 | George | Cope: what durham open day? |
| 17:25.36 | Cope | George: the one you were discussing going to |
| 17:25.50 | wethrin | Cope: Well, given I'm in a tiny little student room, staying with me may be an issue, but the rest is easily doable |
| 17:25.51 | George | Cope: that's bristol. I went. it sucked. never want to return. |
| 17:26.05 | wethrin | I was only at Bristol once for a UKUUG conference |
| 17:28.32 | George | I've not yet heard from cambridge |
| 17:28.38 | George | everyone else at school has their interview dates |
| 17:28.39 | George | I have nothing |
| 17:28.41 | George | I think they hate me |
| 17:28.56 | George | wethrin: WHAT HAVE YOU BEEN TELLING THEM!?!?!? |
| 17:29.07 | wethrin | (muahahahaha) |
| 17:29.33 | Cope | George: oooh that sounds like bad news :( |
| 17:29.43 | Cope | </comfort> |
| 17:29.47 | Cope | </encourage> |
| 17:29.49 | Cope | </reassure> |
| 17:30.07 | Cope | and its mid november |
| 17:30.08 | wethrin | Cope: But Oxford is so much better |
| 17:30.18 | Cope | wethrin: well, had he listend to us.... |
| 17:30.28 | wethrin | George: Could've got lost in the post - they'd have sent you a rejection letter if they didn't want you |
| 17:30.34 | wethrin | Phone them up |
| 17:30.39 | George | not now ;) |
| 17:30.57 | George | well.. |
| 17:31.00 | George | it's 5:30 |
| 17:31.05 | George | good time to phone or not? |
| 17:31.51 | Cope | bit late, and you'd probably get someone heading off home for the weekend |
| 17:31.56 | Cope | I'd call on monday morning |
| 17:32.07 | George | I'll email for now |
| 17:32.17 | Cope | really? |
| 17:32.21 | George | what? |
| 17:32.38 | Cope | i honestly don't know if I'd contact them at all... not thought it through though |
| 17:32.42 | Cope | what do you think wethrin ? |
| 17:32.49 | wethrin | I try to avoid thinking |
| 17:32.57 | George | lazy shit |
| 17:32.58 | Cope | I'd have thought you shoudl use your senuor tutor, or whatever they call them at eton |
| 17:33.15 | George | Cope: so you think I should email the director of studies at harrow and ask him wtf to do? |
| 17:33.27 | wethrin | I'd get in contact and say that other people have received letters, and you were wondering if yours was lost in the post, or what the status was |
| 17:33.31 | Cope | s/eton/harrow/ eek sorry |
| 17:33.39 | George | wethrin: email? |
| 17:33.58 | wethrin | George: Could work |
| 17:34.04 | Cope | wethrin: hmm, ok, I might be more formal and get the director of studies to intercede |
| 17:34.20 | wethrin | It's been a long time since I've done undergrad applications |
| 17:34.28 | Cope | likewise |
| 17:34.43 | Cope | I got my interview offer for Queens at the end of oct |
| 17:35.13 | Cope | um... not 3 weeks ago |
| 17:35.27 | Cope | ummm |
| 17:35.27 | George | Queens? |
| 17:35.33 | Cope | a long time ago |
| 17:35.49 | wethrin | You were a Queens person? |
| 17:36.04 | Cope | George: The Queen's College Oxford |
| 17:36.29 | George | Cope: pouf |
| 17:36.39 | Cope | wethrin: I got an EE offer to do Chemistry, didn't take it, took a year out, and came back to do theology |
| 17:36.48 | George | Cope: EE? BASTARD. |
| 17:37.08 | Cope | I miss Chemistry |
| 17:37.15 | George | what was your offer for theology? |
| 17:37.16 | Cope | ooh daddy is home - brb |
| 17:37.22 | Cope | George: unconditional |
| 17:37.33 | George | oh you applied post a-level |
| 17:37.35 | Cope | I had my results by then |
| 17:37.36 | wethrin | Cope: Ahhhh |
| 17:37.45 | wethrin | I got an EE offer from UCL |
| 17:38.55 | mozrat | afternoon to you all |
| 17:39.03 | wethrin | evening |
| 17:39.24 | mozrat | hello george cope wethrin |
| 17:40.25 | George | mozrat is a prime example of why people should go to university |
| 17:41.03 | mozrat | George, why is that then? |
| 17:41.28 | mozrat | or are you simply a troll? |
| 17:41.35 | mozrat | :) |
| 17:42.03 | mozrat | seriously a university education would have been handy but i've done ok without it |
| 17:42.12 | SlayerXP | mine was pointless |
| 17:42.23 | George | SlayerXP: yes, but you're a raving cynic. |
| 17:42.37 | SlayerXP | I've never raved in my life. |
| 17:42.43 | George | you're a cynic. |
| 17:42.44 | mozrat | and i had more fun with those 7 years IMO |
| 17:42.56 | George | rahrah |
| 17:43.14 | George | and I'm already a higher rank than you ever were :) |
| 17:43.15 | George | hahahahaha |
| 17:43.46 | George | WHAT? |
| 17:43.51 | mozrat | Yes George, The Army cadets really count |
| 17:44.04 | George | haha |
| 17:44.10 | Cope | mozrat: think you typo'd there... extra 'o' |
| 17:44.24 | George | Cope: bitch. |
| 17:44.51 | SlayerXP | cease this man-love |
| 17:45.01 | Cope | George: one day you will grow old and recede, and long-floppy hair will just look shit |
| 17:45.05 | mozrat | George, 3 years in the Army would sort you out |
| 17:45.16 | SlayerXP | 3 years in iraq would sort him out |
| 17:45.29 | George | d3w|) |
| 17:45.42 | mozrat | do it! |
| 17:45.42 | mozrat | yeah, i wouldnt recommend Iraq |
| 17:45.53 | Erwin | filthy stupid real estate agencies |
| 17:46.18 | Erwin | there's an average of 5 letters/week from them looking for property |
| 17:46.40 | Erwin | and they all send it in a white unmarked envelope so you cannot throw them away without opening them |
| 17:47.07 | Cope | ummmm |
| 17:47.30 | Cope | do the unmarked envelopes have some magic forcefield which repel them from the bin / shredder? |
| 17:47.37 | George | Erwin: note the postmark. throw away anything from that postmark. |
| 17:47.53 | Erwin | Well, I have to open them first, maybe it's some bill |
| 17:48.29 | mozrat | Erwin send them back in an envelope with no stamp and make them pay (or is that an urban myth?) |
| 17:49.02 | Erwin | There's no return address, so I'd need to get one of my own envelopes, put in their address etc. |
| 17:59.01 | wethrin | What's the 3-letter code for Singapore dollar? |
| 17:59.21 | Cope | sgd? |
| 17:59.27 | Cope | ibot change 1 gbp to sgd |
| 17:59.39 | Cope | sounds about right |
| 17:59.45 | wethrin | ~change 720 SGD to GBP |
| 17:59.55 | wethrin | Hmm |
| 18:00.04 | George | SGD? |
| 18:01.06 | wethrin | Singapore Dollar |
| 18:16.09 | SlayerXP | Dorrah, surely? :) |
| 18:17.48 | wethrin | FIE DORRAH |
| 18:34.40 | SlayerXP | Cope: I used to have sexual congress with a medical student born in singapore |
| 18:34.43 | SlayerXP | she was pretty hot |
| 19:29.51 | Erwin | But did she have an version of putting anything sticky in her mouth due to the restrictive Singapore chewing gum laws? |
| 19:32.43 | Leeds | ibot currency for singapore |
| 19:38.11 | wethrin | sgd |
| 19:40.20 | Leeds | yes, I know... but there is a way to get ibot to tell you |
| 19:40.29 | Leeds | anyway, it's 3:40am and I'm really really not here |
| 19:41.08 | wethrin | Night, Leeds |
| 19:42.04 | Leeds | night |
| 20:01.22 | George | ibot: currency singapore |
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| 20:22.23 | George | WURBLE |
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| 21:17.41 | mozrat | ewh |
| 21:17.59 | George | lol |
| 21:18.01 | George | okies |
| 21:21.20 | mozrat | wheeee - my Tube stop next! laters |
| 21:53.14 | George | Cope: ping |
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| 23:55.40 | Cope | George: hello |
| 23:55.49 | Cope | ah Blissex |