irclog2html for #gllug on 20051116

00:00.04wethrinDoes that have anything to do with not liking The Office? :)
00:00.42mozratwethrin: maybe
00:01.24wethrineh, I'm not going to object to it; I just wasn't keen on it personally
00:01.35wethrinThere are also wrong people who don't like Monty Python
00:03.11mozratreally???
00:03.39wethrinIndeed
00:03.41Leedsthat's just inexplicable
00:03.49wethrinI agree
00:05.29Leedshttp://www.warrenellis.com/?p=1502
00:07.13mozratthat is *gross*
00:08.04Leedsyes
00:09.05mozrat<gag>The bible is the worlds most stolen book... to be fair how are you supposed to know you shouldn't steal it until you've read it</gag>
00:11.27Leedshmm...
00:12.15Leedsokay, so what I want is a personal ibot which listens over at least jabber, possibly irc and email as well
00:13.17mozratand it will do "stuff"?
00:14.45Leedscurrency/unit conversions... bookmarking? some notification-type stuff?
00:14.56Leedsshouldn't be hard with twisted
00:16.02mozratno, shouldn't be
00:26.21z00daxhi guys, anyone have an idea about svn / cvs ?
00:51.07mozratnna
00:51.11mozratnn all
01:03.35z00daxnite mozrat
01:05.55Leedsnight
01:16.34Leedsibot change 100 GB to US
01:18.39Leedsibot currency for GB
01:19.07Leedsibot change for GB
01:22.38Leedsit does the conversion by scraping xe.com - I thought they were using some defined interface
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07:38.27mozratGood luck today
07:42.00LeedsGeorge: doing an exam, interview, or something?
07:42.35mozratGoing to a uni, apparently
07:42.39mozratMoin Leeds
07:42.52Georgeonly an open^Wadmissions day
07:43.06Georgewhich is basically an open day in disguise
07:43.29Georgeright, well, i'm packing the lappie now
07:43.30Georgebyee
07:44.39Leedsmorning all, BTW
07:44.43Leedsgood luck George
07:47.22mozrat*sigh* our whipping boy is all grown up! *sniff*
09:20.50Cope:)
09:22.33Leedsmorning Cope
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09:44.10weaslmorning all
10:05.08wethrinI wonder if Uni will make him drink :)
10:13.23weaslwhat's green, 6 inches tall and lasts just one night?
10:13.34weasl(for wethrin)
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10:17.46wethrinHmm. Did mozrat mention my name before irssi crashed?
10:27.50Leedswethrin: no, but weasl did
10:28.01wethrinAhh....what did he say?
10:28.48Leedsweasl what's green, 6 inches tall and lasts just one night?
10:28.48Leedsweasl (for wethrin)
10:29.22wethrinEr. Pass.
10:31.32weaslgrant cheque
10:32.18weaslbit of an old joke nowadays
10:35.07wethrinAhhhh
10:35.08wethrin:)
10:35.21wethrinYes. Grants have gone out of fashion since 96/97
10:36.02Leedsthey were pretty heavily means-tested by then
10:36.13weaslshows my age .. :-U
10:36.34wethrinYes :)
10:39.42weaslthanks ..
10:39.55wethrin:)
10:48.01Cope:)
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11:11.50morsing'morning
11:12.20wethrinhi
11:12.30morsingSorry about yesterday
11:13.44wethrinhm?
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11:19.10Copehi kb
11:19.36kbsinghmorning Cope
11:21.35morsingkbsingh!
11:21.37morsingCope!
11:21.45kbsinghmorsing!
11:21.48morsingwethrin: How was Koln?
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11:23.20Cope/usr/sbin/rhnreg_ks --force --profilename=`grep ^machinename= /etc/digex/digex.config | cut -d= -f2` --activationkey=`
11:23.23Copegrep ^rhn_serialnumber= /etc/digex/digex.config | cut -d= -f2` --proxy=`grep ^rhn_proxy= /etc/digex/digex.config | cut -d= -f
11:23.26Cope2`/usr/sbin/rhnreg_ks --force --profilename=`grep ^machinename= /etc/digex/digex.config | cut -d= -f2` --activationkey=`
11:23.30Copegrep ^rhn_serialnumber= /etc/digex/digex.config | cut -d= -f2` --proxy=`grep ^rhn_proxy= /etc/digex/digex.config | cut -d= -f
11:23.33Copeoops
11:23.35Copesprry
11:29.13Leedsmozrat: one of the things I remember with fondness from my time in Israel is the night sky 10s of miles from the nearest town
11:30.58morsingibot wake wethrin
11:30.59ibotwethrin: GOOD MORNING!!!
11:46.51Leedsfinally got my DVD through from Israel... very nice :-)
11:48.14Leedsand Virgin have a couple of interesting sales on...
12:07.16wethrinyes?
12:07.21wethrinmorsing: Koln is 16-20 December
12:07.30morsingAhh...
12:14.56wethrinick
12:16.16CopeLUXURY
12:18.08wethrinHum. Apparently I have Acrobat Distiller installed on my machine. Also, it doesn't work.
12:18.15wethrinHurray for useful Windows error messages
12:19.59CopeI went to work at 5.30am half an hour before I went to bed, drank a cup of sulphuric, worked 29 hours in the datacentre, and pay the boss for permission to work; and when I got home my Dad killed me, and dance up and down on my bed singing hallelujah.
12:20.27Copeerm, ITIM grave not bed... but my memory fails me.
12:21.31Cope;)
12:29.27eye69Doesn't OOo do that?
12:29.41wethrinYes, but isn't exactly generic
12:29.58wethrinThat, and OOo can still be a little bit iffy with Word documents
12:53.19Leedswethrin: he's no Tyke!
12:53.33wethrinum?
12:54.23LeedsCope is not a Yorkshireman
12:54.36wethrinAhhh
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13:01.06Leedsor not... going to listen to the end of the DVD first
13:02.37Leedsevening ProperMadDad
13:03.08ProperMadDadevening Leeds :)
13:28.07Leedsokay, soup for dinner
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13:32.20Leedsevening mikejw
13:32.32morsingMmm... dinner
13:32.40morsingeye69: ?
13:38.52Leedsthere we go, a big steaming bowl of M&S soup
13:40.37morsingmaerp504: $lsuser -a id ALL | grep site
13:40.43Leedsand I'm uninterested in your rhn configuration...
13:40.50morsingrhn?
13:41.12Leedsyes
13:41.28Leedsredhat network
13:42.17Leedsokay, " Hornby on track for novel prize" has to be an attempt at a pin
13:42.19Leedspun!
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13:56.32morsingDoes anyone have a picture of a big butter blob?
13:57.41Leedsmorsing: google image search for "butter"?
13:58.37morsingLeeds: Doesn't come up with anything
14:00.51Erwinoh no, I get flashbacks of an awful breakfast at IHOP in CA. All their pancakes/crepes swimming in fat.
14:00.55Leedshttp://www.modjourn.brown.edu/mjp/Image/Vollon/Butter.jpg ?
14:06.33CopeErwin: are we expected to know the acronymn IHOP?
14:06.43LeedsCope: international house of pancakes
14:07.01CopeLeeds: ah.. is this a well known place, then?
14:07.08Leedsin the US it is, yes
14:09.44ErwinIt turned out the International part is because they offer "German" pancakes and "French" pancakes.
14:09.58LeedsErwin: did you see Dead Like Me?
14:10.20ErwinLeeds: Never heard about it before
14:11.27LeedsTV show, was on for a couple of seasons, got cancelled last year, one of the regular locations was Der Waffle House
14:11.54Leedsor Der Waffel Haus
14:12.12morsing<M_Knight> jack chack mack jan - Mmmm
14:14.35morsingHow can anyone say that any Jim Carrey movie was good?
14:14.43ErwinI don't know if that shop actually exists, but there's lot of weird stuff over there in US. And 90% of it are chains.
14:14.50LeedsI liked the Mask
14:14.54Erwinmorsing: Try "Eternal Sunshines of the Spotless Mind"
14:15.13ErwinThe Truman Show too
14:15.51Leedshaven't made it into eternal sunshine yet
14:16.16ErwinThat's OK, I've seen it 3 times in the theaters, so it averages out
14:19.04morsingTake any good movie, put Jim Carrey in it and you'll be sick watching it!
14:19.31morsingHe's the biggest idiot of this and the last century
14:19.50morsingLike that muppet from "The office"
14:22.01Cope:)
14:25.55morsingGive me the word for football in some strange languages?
14:29.41morsing<PROTECTED>
14:37.16Erwinsoccer :-)
14:47.12Leedskadur regel
14:52.21Copemorsing: butter? football? are you, perchance, feeling 'unstretched'?
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15:06.39morsingCope: No weird colleagues at work.
15:06.57morsingOne vomits if he touches butter
15:13.51wethrinTouches? Or eats?
15:18.30morsingwethrin: Both. Reaction is more violent if eaten
15:18.56wethrinahh
15:18.58wethrinnot good
15:22.23ErwinPure butter, or does that include any butter-using product?
15:24.41LeedsHKwow, forecast to get really cold here overnight at the weekend... 13 degrees!
15:25.46morsingErwin: Includes eating mashed potates with a microscopic lump in it!
15:29.05wethrinLeedsHK: Better wrap up warm!
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15:31.33LeedsHKmight have to put a jacket on!
15:37.45gregj13 degrees ? jee
15:37.52gregjit's -1 to -3 here
15:37.57gregjovernight
15:38.12gregjand rummor saysit is going to snow this week
15:38.24gregjalready did in Spain, or so I heard
15:40.13murbgregj: it already snowed today in oberfranken
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15:43.47JAVgregj: not here despite the warnings, it only rained.
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15:45.17morsingrichardc__!
15:45.51Leedsugh, bouncy network
15:50.52CopeEWW
15:51.09CopeLeeds: how 'easy' is it to 'write' on the treo?
15:51.19Copeie would putty be useable for editting text files?
16:02.13gregjJAV: it is still quite few days till end of the week, so give it some time, it will ;)
16:05.59Leedstext files? yes... essays? no
16:06.10Leedsthe keyboard is pretty decent, considering how small it is
16:07.39Copek
16:14.23Leedsooh, python... 4 lines of code to open a provided URL, download the contents, parse the page, and pull out the test of the <title> tag :-0
16:14.38rhoweibot change 1 gbp to eur
16:17.19rhoweibot change 120 eur to gbp
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16:32.34Leedsbedtime - g'night all
16:46.17mozratg'afternoon!
17:02.06wethring'day!
17:05.21morsingmozrat!
17:10.07wethrinBad Cope
17:11.50wethrinCope: Why do you find it odd that raw devices are deprecated? Don't you know kernel developers like deprecating things for shits and giggles? :)
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17:34.29gregjCope: if it was some device to be found in /proc, no wonder it is deprecate, as you can find those now in /sys
17:47.43mozratCope, s/grandi/Blissex/
17:54.44mozratheh Sony violates the LGPL with it's rootkit http://hack.fi/~muzzy/sony-drm/
17:55.51wethrinmozrat: Well, what about the Computer Misuse Act?
17:56.12mozratI think the EULA probably covers that
17:56.27mozratYou may give away your rights when you click OK on that front
17:56.41mozratDid that CD even play under Linux?
17:57.10wethrinMost importantly, does it play in a proper CD player?
17:57.47mozratyes
17:57.51wethrinOkay
17:57.57wethrinWhat about in a Mac?
18:01.26mozratno eye dear
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18:51.11pawelmetting. tomorrow. :/
18:51.26pawelmy bird's birthday.
18:51.35wethrinyou're meeting your bird? :)
18:51.39wethrinOr meeting at work?
18:51.53pawelno. /topic
18:52.00wethrinAhhhhhh
18:52.04wethrinTake her along :)
18:52.16pawelyeah, right.
18:52.20wethrinheh
18:53.59pawelshe will rather stay at home drinking champagne with friends.
18:54.08pawelwethrin: how are you doing btw?
18:54.16wethrinI'm doing okay, other than having a cold
18:54.28wethrinFinished my 1st-year report, and doing some more lab work
18:54.36pawelcold.. yes, it's cold.
18:54.48wethrinThat too
19:01.16pawelI hate it when I need to scratch the windscreen to get that ice off.
19:05.49mozratpawel: time to start covering it at nights then
19:08.18pawelI would keep the car in a garage, but there isn't any around.
19:10.01mozratcovering the windscreen with a plastic cover means less de-icing though
19:19.55mozratwethrin: PING!
19:20.59mozratA mail has come through to -admin asking about OpenLinux 2.2 and Red Hat 7.
19:21.12mozratHas that mail been queued since 2000 ?
19:24.49mozratbbl
20:11.54mozratfoo
20:15.46IAmAIHello.
20:17.33mozrathello
20:17.47IAmAIHow's all?#
20:18.25mozratgood thanks!
20:18.53mozratyourself?
20:19.03IAmAII'm good.
20:19.05IAmAII'm trying to set up an ssh server
20:19.32mozratoh yes? on which distro?
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20:19.54IAmAIUbuntu.
20:20.11mozratneed any help?
20:21.02IAmAIYes please ^__^
20:21.20IAmAII've started reading the man pages for 'sshd' and they aren't straight forward.
20:21.21mozratit doesnt come installed by default
20:21.39mozratdo you know how to get a root shell?
20:21.51IAmAIsudo?
20:22.00mozratyep
20:22.07IAmAII think I've installed the correct packages uses Package Manager.
20:22.09mozratsudo apt-get install ssh
20:22.14IAmAIThat was fairly easy.
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20:22.27mozratcool - so ssh localhost to test
20:23.02mozrator from another machine 'ssh user@192.168.0.1'
20:23.11mozratif that was your IP
20:23.16IAmAICool.
20:23.20IAmAIThought it would be a bit harder :P
20:23.38mozratssh localhost isnt very exciting :)
20:23.53mozratwell - you can do *a lot* with SSH
20:23.55IAmAII assumed I would have to configure it and stuff :P
20:24.07mozratbut to get a remote shell working it is easy
20:24.14IAmAICool.
20:24.22mozratnah, not so much on Ubuntu
20:24.25zx80userhello all. I set up prboom on my network last night and I am trying desperately to get the kids to play me at it :) Are there better network games for thirtysomethings and ten yearolds to play?
20:24.30IAmAIAt least now I can return my monitor and keyboard to my Windows computer :P
20:24.42IAmAICounter-Strike
20:24.46mozratyou could disable root logons
20:24.46IAmAIThat's what I play :P
20:25.10zx80userIAmAI should haved added and is free-as-in-beer
20:25.27IAmAII'd rather not cos if I wanna do anything that requires root access I'd have to lugg my keyboard and monitor to the spare room ::P
20:25.43mozratwere they saying on the mailing list that doom for Linux is free now?
20:25.59mozratdunno about 10 year olds though
20:26.12IAmAII assume sshd starts up automatically?
20:26.21mozratIAmAI - ssh as your user and use su or sudo
20:26.28mozratyes it does
20:26.34IAmAICool.
20:27.02IAmAICan I use PuTTY with it? Something in OpenSSH FAQ made me wonder.
20:27.17zx80usermozrat kids won't play. Have to hassle the SO instead
20:27.20mozratyes, i use Putty if i ssh from Windows
20:27.29IAmAICool.
20:27.37mozratzx80user - bah!
20:28.12zx80usershe's not mad keen either. What's the point of having a home network if you cannot crash your cheap router with a UDP storm?
20:28.23mozratsend em to bed if they wont play
20:35.27IAmAIWell, I'm off to return my montor and keyboard to my Windows machine now that I have ssh. See you in a moment.
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20:44.39Georgebristol is full of morons I've decided
20:44.41George:)
20:44.51mozratheh
20:44.54kbsinghit was today, yes
20:45.00mozrathow was it?
20:45.24Georgemozrat: boring, rubbish...
20:45.36Georgethey spent half the day pimping their silly "pod"
20:45.45mozratas you were expecting?
20:45.49Georgewhich is basically a seat enclosed with screens on pneumatic pumps
20:47.26GeorgeI've got ANOTHER job offer. from the same people.
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20:47.30GeorgeI wish they'd leave me alone.
20:48.03mozrattell them to then
20:48.20Georgeheh
20:48.24GeorgeI basically did in the last email
20:48.29George"I'm not interested"
20:48.43mozratis this a company or agency?
20:48.57Georgetwo agencies
20:49.01Georgefor the same company
20:49.22mozratthey are really doing their homework arent they
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20:51.01Georgemozrat: I wonder why they're going after me
20:51.11IAmAISSH works :)
20:51.29mozratgot your CV from Google i imagine
20:51.29GeorgeIAmAI: congrats :P
20:51.46George<PROTECTED>
20:51.47GeorgeGojobsite so won't chase up with a phone call you'll need to drop me an
20:51.48Georgee-mail if interested in learning a little more about..)
20:52.00mozratnice one IAmAI
20:52.04IAmAIThanks.
20:52.06Georgewhat the fuck is Gojobsite and why do they have my CV?
20:52.20IAmAIThough, for some reason, the hostname I set ('ubuntu') doesn't seem to work - my router lists it as blank, and I can't 'ping ubuntu'.
20:52.36IAmAIWhich I would prefer cos I can't seem to setup static IPs on my router.
20:52.55mozratIAmAI, from Windows? if you had samba installed you could do
20:53.15IAmAII see.
20:53.24IAmAIIs that easy to set up?
20:53.46mozratbut you could just give 'ubuntu' a static address - your router wont care
20:54.07mozratIAmAI - what is your username?
20:54.12IAmAI'iamai'
20:54.24mozratsudo apt-get install samba
20:54.37mozratsudo smbpasswd -a iamai
20:54.41mozratenter a password
20:54.58mozratfrom wiNdows do \\ubuntu and you should be in
20:55.14IAmAIAny password or my password?
20:55.47IAmAII guess mine if its sudo :P
20:56.27IAmAICool. It workds. Thanks!
20:56.48IAmAII wish the manuals would tell you things like that.
20:57.29mozratIAmAI - at the moment smb passwords dont automatically synch with /etc/passwd
20:57.40mozratso you could use any old passwd
20:58.05mozratdid it work just like that?
20:58.34IAmAII used the same password as I normally do - easier that way.
20:58.49mozratyeah, i do that too :D
20:59.26IAmAIMy router still lists it as blank, but that don't matter.
20:59.51mozraton the DHCP page?
21:00.49IAmAIYup.
21:01.36IAmAIAlthough Windows must use the router for lookup so it must recognise somewhere. May be the refresh don't work properly.
21:02.54IAmAIOh, is Samba permantent to?
21:03.02IAmAI*permanent
21:03.21mozrathmm, i gotta run. bbl
21:03.26mozratyes it is
21:03.39IAmAICool. Thanks for all your help.
21:03.45IAmAISee you and have a good one.
21:37.03GeorgeSOME BASTARD ATE MY BISCUITS WHILST I WAS IN BRISTOL
21:37.04GeorgeI AM MAD
21:41.15murboh talking of the place of evil, i mean bristol in this case..
22:01.41wethrinmozrat: PING?
22:05.09mozratwethrin: don't worry. I was going to ask if you thought that email to -admin was some weird windup or scam
22:05.19wethrinAhh...I haven't read it
22:05.24mozratwho installs OpenLinux or RH 7 nowdays??
22:05.26mozratweird email
22:05.31wethrinHm
22:35.42*** join/#gllug SlayerXP (n=Mart@ti521110a080-1068.bb.online.no)
22:36.26mozrathey SlayerXP
22:36.32SlayerXPevening
23:14.51JAVevening
23:21.58highburysome bits of Bristol are nice, and cool, others pretty scary
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23:54.56JAVmorning Leeds
23:55.16Leedsmorning JAV, all
23:55.28JAVhttp://www.verrire.com/img/snap-Antena%203-20051117-004655-1.jpeg  --> nice idea for a tv show

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