| 00:05.29 | George | http://www.gwright.org.uk/images/?dir=pictures/School/Sixth%20Form/Room |
| 00:06.43 | wethrin | ... |
| 00:09.38 | George | what? |
| 00:10.13 | wethrin | Very nice pictures, I'm sure |
| 00:10.57 | wethrin | They're pictures of your room....why? :) |
| 00:12.15 | George | why not? |
| 00:12.19 | wethrin | Fair enough |
| 00:12.27 | George | if you prefer you can look at http://www.gwright.org.uk/img_3079.jpg |
| 00:12.46 | wethrin | Ooh - what Sun you got? |
| 00:12.51 | George | ss5 |
| 00:13.09 | wethrin | Ahh. Nice old 32-bit one, then |
| 00:13.29 | George | it's Cope's |
| 00:14.06 | wethrin | Yar. They aren't bad machines |
| 00:14.15 | wethrin | Not exactlly cutting edge any more :) |
| 00:14.22 | George | :) |
| 00:14.23 | George | bit loud |
| 00:14.44 | wethrin | Hm. The SS20 I have at home isn't too bad |
| 00:15.35 | George | this is 170MHz with 256MB RAM |
| 00:15.39 | George | and 20GB of disk space |
| 00:22.32 | wethrin | Pretty good |
| 00:22.42 | wethrin | I can't remember what mine has |
| 00:22.51 | wethrin | It's dual-CPU, though |
| 00:26.39 | wethrin | GNAH |
| 00:26.47 | wethrin | I want to respond to Henry's latest message |
| 00:28.09 | George | just shoot him |
| 00:28.25 | wethrin | mmm....that's your answer to everything |
| 00:29.37 | George | damn right |
| 00:31.07 | wethrin | A lot of people I spoke to today were in favour of hunting Chavs |
| 00:34.11 | Leeds | argh, henry |
| 00:42.13 | Leeds | and poor Diana |
| 00:42.42 | wethrin | :) |
| 00:50.10 | wethrin | nn |
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| 03:16.42 | Leeds | morning martin |
| 03:16.46 | SlayerXP | morning |
| 03:17.10 | Leeds | up early? |
| 03:17.18 | SlayerXP | coukdn't sleep |
| 03:17.37 | SlayerXP | so I gave up and am trying to persuade cyrus's clustering to work properly |
| 03:17.41 | Leeds | it happens... |
| 03:18.04 | Leeds | you don't feel like gently and tactfully educating our friend Henry any more? |
| 03:19.19 | SlayerXP | he's clearly a cluehole of the highest order, the listadmin should be evil and discard all his posts silently |
| 03:31.02 | AngelChild | heh, cluehole |
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| 07:43.53 | mozrat | Morning |
| 07:47.24 | morsing | 'morning |
| 07:48.35 | morsing | How are you? At work yet? |
| 07:48.45 | morsing | Have you made a cake as well? |
| 07:52.42 | morsing | mozrat: After I created my own Nagios user I haven't got access to see the "scheduling queue" and "Event log" |
| 07:56.49 | Leeds | morning all |
| 07:57.05 | mozrat | cgi.cfg << morsing |
| 07:57.16 | mozrat | hey Leeds |
| 08:01.25 | mozrat | Can someone tell me which DNS servers they think the domain akron.nl is hosted on? |
| 08:15.50 | Leeds | mozrat: well, whois says ns.grip.nl and ns3.grip.nl |
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| 08:37.27 | morsing | akron.nl. 86400 IN NS ns3.grip.nl. |
| 08:37.27 | morsing | akron.nl. 86400 IN NS ns.grip.nl. |
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| 08:38.14 | sm | hmmm |
| 08:38.23 | morsing | sm! |
| 08:38.38 | sm | yes, why can't I SSH back into my `mozrat' session? |
| 08:38.43 | morsing | mozrat: Why is your username "i"? |
| 08:38.52 | sm | morsing: I dunno |
| 08:39.11 | Leeds | morsing: it isn't |
| 08:39.11 | sm | The BA site was down this morning, I bet someone is in line for an ass kicking |
| 08:39.19 | morsing | Leeds: It is |
| 08:39.28 | Leeds | morsing: it isn't |
| 08:39.36 | highbury | morning |
| 08:39.41 | sm | hi highbury |
| 08:40.02 | morsing | 'morning highbury |
| 08:40.04 | sm | morsing: it isn't |
| 08:40.52 | Leeds | highbury: so when do you start? |
| 08:43.53 | morsing | mozrat: When I click "3-D Status Map" it asks me to download a .cgi file. Why? |
| 08:43.56 | sm | I'm not poking fun at anyone on the mailing list but what do you think this guy is asking? I think something was lost in the es=>uk translation. |
| 08:43.59 | sm | http://lists.gllug.org.uk/pipermail/gllug/2005-November/056662.html |
| 08:44.15 | sm | morsing: in mozrats absence I feel qualified to answer |
| 08:44.21 | sm | You need a WRL viewer |
| 08:44.34 | sm | It's in the FAQ, and I've never got it to work |
| 08:44.54 | sm | and I think there is some webserver hackery involved as well so it knows how to handle that MIME type |
| 08:46.38 | mozrat | I'm back!!! |
| 08:46.53 | mozrat | <PROTECTED> |
| 08:49.48 | rhowe | morsing: the "web server" hackery is probably more "CGI script hackery" so that the CGI script sends the correct Content-Type header |
| 08:50.04 | morsing | rhowe: No - I need a VRML plugin |
| 08:50.56 | Leeds | morsing: of any sort? |
| 08:51.12 | Leeds | or specifically vrml? |
| 08:51.32 | morsing | Leeds: ANy sort |
| 08:52.25 | Leeds | um, wow |
| 08:52.54 | rhowe | morsing: There's freewrl IIRC |
| 08:53.01 | rhowe | morsing: Not sure how well/badly it works. |
| 08:53.35 | mozrat | rhowe: yes, you are probably correct |
| 08:53.51 | mozrat | rhowe: this could be the reason I never got it working TBH |
| 08:54.10 | rhowe | mozrat: Hm.. actually it could just be asking him to download it because his browser doesn't have a plugin to handle the VRML MIME type |
| 08:54.33 | mozrat | morsing: I think that functionality is a distraction anyway - do you require a 3D map of your network? |
| 08:54.52 | morsing | mozrat: Can't really say since I've never seen it?! |
| 08:56.15 | rhowe | morsing: If you haven't seen it, you can't be missing it :P |
| 08:56.31 | morsing | rhowe: I didn't say I was missing it |
| 09:08.01 | Cope | morning |
| 09:09.56 | rhowe | morning |
| 09:25.03 | morsing | Cope! |
| 09:26.11 | morsing | Can anyone explain how it is possible to take pictures with infrared film? |
| 09:27.33 | Leeds | morsing: well, you take a photo with film which is sentitive to infra-red rather than visible light... |
| 09:31.03 | morsing | Leeds: Yes, but the inside of the camera is not -273 degrees so the film would quickly be overexposed |
| 09:31.19 | morsing | morsing: It is physically impossible |
| 09:31.26 | morsing | morsing: Yes I know |
| 09:32.16 | morsing | Leeds: It is indeed one of the biggest mysteries ever |
| 09:32.45 | morsing | Right up there with Velcro |
| 09:35.14 | Leeds | nah, velcro is easy enough to understand... |
| 09:35.49 | Leeds | millions of male fairies on one side, millions of females on the other... put them together and things get sticky |
| 09:55.00 | morsing | Mmm... sticky |
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| 10:06.11 | morsing | Leeds! |
| 10:08.50 | Leeds | network here just took a funny turn |
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| 10:14.58 | Leeds | morsing: do you know how many holes it takes to fill the Albert Hall? |
| 10:19.04 | sm | Leeds: having just come into that conversation it seems a strange question |
| 10:28.11 | morsing | Leeds: No |
| 10:31.38 | murb | Leeds: they know. |
| 10:31.47 | Leeds | murb: now they know |
| 10:32.16 | murb | yes. |
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| 10:48.35 | sm | hey SlayerXP |
| 10:48.40 | SlayerXP | yo |
| 10:48.46 | sm | how's it going |
| 10:49.24 | SlayerXP | not bad. perusing the european contract market |
| 10:49.34 | murb | hmm jagertea |
| 10:50.43 | sm | SlayerXP: is there much going in Norway or are you looking to travel around a bit |
| 10:50.50 | morsing | CAKE DAY! |
| 10:51.10 | sm | Mmm, cake |
| 10:51.18 | wethrin | whose birthday is it? |
| 10:51.29 | SlayerXP | sm: either/or |
| 10:52.24 | wethrin | Hmm. Gilbert thinks I wasn't around during ILOVEU, Melissa, etc. |
| 10:52.25 | morsing | wethrin: I baked a cake for charity |
| 10:52.34 | morsing | Mmm... Coffee cake |
| 10:52.35 | wethrin | I was around. And it irritated me. Because it SLOWED DOWN MY NETWORK ACCESS |
| 10:52.41 | wethrin | morsing: Yay! |
| 10:53.27 | Leeds | wethrin: to be fair, you are very young |
| 10:54.18 | wethrin | Leeds: Not compared to George :) |
| 10:54.39 | sm | SlayerXP: I think you are in for a cold winter over there |
| 10:54.48 | wethrin | Anyway. I got *zero* copies of ILOVEU |
| 10:54.56 | sm | wethrin: Gilbert is a dilbert |
| 10:54.56 | SlayerXP | sm: that's a safe bet |
| 10:55.03 | sm | SlayerXP: true |
| 10:55.06 | murb | wethrin: i had to restore jpgs from network backup for a client. |
| 10:55.09 | sm | I enjoyed my winters in Norway |
| 10:55.10 | wethrin | Also, I didn't bother about it because I ran Linux |
| 10:55.40 | wethrin | murb: Is that the latest "why-I-was-downloading-porn" excuse? :) |
| 10:55.45 | sm | Apart from the cost of beer over there |
| 10:56.17 | wethrin | DYM schilaufen? |
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| 10:58.45 | sm | woo kbsingh |
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| 10:59.40 | Leeds | evening kbsingh |
| 11:00.42 | kbsingh | hey guys! howse things ? |
| 11:01.09 | mozrat | kbsingh: Good but busy here.. Monday mornings after migration weekends SUCK |
| 11:01.28 | kbsingh | mozrat, yeah - I know the feeling.. |
| 11:03.17 | kbsingh | that p2p programs thread is funny :) |
| 11:04.09 | kbsingh | imho, the only machine that is 100% secure, is one that isnt powered on - and sitting in some deep dark corner of a swiss bank vault. |
| 11:04.28 | wethrin | kbsingh: But some people have access to the bank vaults |
| 11:04.34 | wethrin | Better is buried in 6ft of concrete |
| 11:04.39 | wethrin | And buried 6ft underground |
| 11:04.45 | Leeds | with a repeatedly-wiped and the physically-destroyed hard drive/RAM/etc. |
| 11:05.10 | murb | well paid guards, mine fields etc. |
| 11:05.46 | Leeds | having Henry as the main attacker would significantly help the security as well |
| 11:06.03 | kbsingh | Leeds, lol. was thinking the same thing |
| 11:07.40 | wethrin | And, anyone know *who* Henry Gilbert is? |
| 11:07.48 | wethrin | Should we invite him for a Gllug talk? :) |
| 11:09.42 | Leeds | Ivan, trolling... |
| 11:09.43 | rhowe | wethrin: I met him on Saturday. Affable enough chap |
| 11:10.14 | wethrin | ooh right |
| 11:10.33 | wethrin | Hm. Shakthi Kannan is Richard M. Stallman, and I claim my £5 |
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| 11:11.46 | wethrin | rhowe: How old is he? |
| 11:12.42 | Leeds | hmm... he appaers to be an ARM guy with a little over a year's experience - I would guess he graduated last year... Shakthi, that is |
| 11:12.54 | wethrin | Ahha. So he thinks he knows the world |
| 11:13.07 | wethrin | Anyway |
| 11:13.40 | kbsingh | I am aware of the company he works for - Hexaware Tech |
| 11:14.06 | Leeds | not that I have any problem with it, but I do wonder what a random Indian engineer is doing on the GLLUG list :-) |
| 11:14.14 | kbsingh | me too :) |
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| 11:16.42 | Leeds | yeah, he got his master's degree last year in New York |
| 11:16.45 | Leeds | evening ranner |
| 11:17.05 | ranner | Hi |
| 11:19.26 | Leeds | in fact, he was 25 last week |
| 11:20.13 | XPSlammer | take a look at this... |
| 11:20.20 | XPSlammer | "Network Consultant" |
| 11:20.28 | XPSlammer | "Ethernet switching - essential |
| 11:20.28 | XPSlammer | IP routing - essential |
| 11:20.29 | XPSlammer | Firewall technologies - essential |
| 11:20.29 | XPSlammer | Educated to degree level - essential |
| 11:20.29 | XPSlammer | Sound mathematical ability - essential " |
| 11:20.39 | XPSlammer | looks reasonable so far, yes? |
| 11:21.16 | XPSlammer | next line: |
| 11:21.17 | XPSlammer | "Proficient use of Excel - essential " |
| 11:21.47 | Leeds | obviously |
| 11:23.24 | murb | XPSlammer: what about minesweeper, solitaire and reversi? (for when you have the network under control?) |
| 11:23.38 | XPSlammer | non-specified |
| 11:23.53 | murb | you don't want your network consultants making random changes because they are bored. |
| 11:29.15 | Leeds | hmm... |
| 11:30.40 | Leeds | actually, you know what we need? |
| 11:30.55 | XPSlammer | busty maidens to attend to our every need? |
| 11:31.40 | Leeds | well, obviously... |
| 11:31.56 | Leeds | but I was thinking in terms of Henry |
| 11:32.08 | Leeds | we need David Dammerel |
| 11:32.35 | XPSlammer | and we need him like we need DJB |
| 11:32.41 | Leeds | yes |
| 11:35.39 | XPSlammer | accuse him of being a clue-free tosh-peddler |
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| 11:42.27 | weasl | last week someone suggected I install Slackware .. (more info needed). Any Slack 'experts' online ..? |
| 11:42.56 | Cope | George: ping |
| 11:43.00 | weasl | incidently, morning folks... (sorry) |
| 11:43.05 | Cope | hi weasl |
| 11:43.18 | weasl | hi cope |
| 11:43.21 | Cope | weasl: Leeds, wethrin and I are all experienced Slackware users. |
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| 11:43.54 | Cope | weasl: these days I use debian more than slackware, but am still running some slackware machines. |
| 11:45.21 | weasl | mouse problem on 10.1: think I chose the wrong mouse during installation - how can I change it to a simple PS2? |
| 11:45.56 | SlammerXP | with slackware? I think you have to disassemble and reassemble your computer to make that kind of change. |
| 11:46.02 | SlammerXP | or is that gentoo...? |
| 11:46.16 | Cope | weasl: how did you configure X in the first place? what tool did you use? |
| 11:49.50 | wethrin | Edit the X config file |
| 11:51.14 | weasl | just during installation |
| 11:51.14 | weasl | WDM: blackbox/fluxbox |
| 11:51.14 | weasl | Wethrin: in what way? (dont have it on at the moment) & (sorry) but how ... ? |
| 11:52.44 | wethrin | Your favourite text editor |
| 11:53.11 | SlammerXP | edlin! |
| 11:53.23 | wethrin | The location of the file in question varies depending on distribution/X version/time of month |
| 11:53.30 | wethrin | SlammerXP: ITYM 'ed', which is the standard Unix editor |
| 11:54.08 | wethrin | Oh, apart from I haven't edited an X config file since XFree86, and most distributions now use X.org, don't they? |
| 11:55.10 | mozrat | I wonder if "p2p programs" can outdo "Web Site Creations" for the longest thread? |
| 11:55.44 | Cope | weasl: slackware doesn't have an x config section in the installer - you install it afterwards; but edit the file with an editor... x.org is now used; so edit xorg.conf |
| 11:56.06 | Cope | weasl: or re-run one of the x config tools |
| 11:57.32 | Cope | weasl: and read http://www.slackbook.org/html/x-window-system.html |
| 11:57.59 | weasl | thanks for you comments, but this is where my limited knowledge of *nix gui's comes in .. |
| 11:57.59 | weasl | many t's for that last link! |
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| 12:04.17 | weasl | cope: can I save and drop out of xorgconfig without going thro' all the menus? |
| 12:05.19 | Leeds | argh |
| 12:07.19 | SlammerXP | all the menus? |
| 12:10.14 | weasl | questions, questions, .. |
| 12:10.28 | weasl | (by xorgconfig ..) |
| 12:11.02 | Leeds | ah, there's Damerell :-) |
| 12:11.04 | SlammerXP | what's that then? |
| 12:11.10 | SlammerXP | I just use vi to configure X |
| 12:11.15 | SlammerXP | it seems to be easier |
| 12:12.04 | SlammerXP | *snort* *chuckle* |
| 12:12.08 | SlammerXP | wish I'd thought of that |
| 12:15.13 | SlammerXP | OENEUS> hi, i can't emulate the server... what can i do to fix that? |
| 12:16.18 | Leeds | how does recompiling a kernel affect one's ability to write English? |
| 12:16.32 | wethrin | Slow machine? Doesn't respond to all the keystrokes? :) |
| 12:19.05 | Leeds | posbly |
| 12:19.28 | SlammerXP | <OENEUS> SlammerXP: i'm trying to emulate the debian throught putty... |
| 12:20.22 | Leeds | so, I got my letter from the Royal Mail... effectively saying "oops, yes, we did fail to redirect some of your mail including a couple of credit card bills - all our fault, we're sorry, we'll try not to let it happen again" |
| 12:21.07 | wethrin | SlammerXP: Some idiot on #debian? |
| 12:21.42 | Cope | weasl: strange idea of fun |
| 12:21.49 | SlammerXP | wethrin: #debian yes, the idiot bit remains to be seen |
| 12:22.01 | SlammerXP | oh, I found a really cool little util last night |
| 12:22.04 | SlammerXP | "tutty" |
| 12:22.18 | wethrin | Does it tut at you if you use telnet? |
| 12:22.21 | SlammerXP | it's putty but with serial support. finally a decent serial terminal for windows |
| 12:23.23 | wethrin | ooooh |
| 12:25.59 | weasl | cope: the experience wont do me any harm |
| 12:27.38 | weasl | hopefully with a different setup, I can learn what not to do .;) |
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| 13:22.01 | mozrat | Well - found out why my screen/irssi session on my free shell account wasn't working |
| 13:22.07 | mozrat | Freenode have banned that server. |
| 13:24.48 | morsing | ibot change 314usd to gbp |
| 13:25.01 | morsing | ibot change 314usd to bps |
| 13:25.16 | morsing | ibot change 314usd to p |
| 13:25.27 | morsing | ibot change 314usd to hmm |
| 13:25.33 | morsing | Leeds |
| 13:25.35 | morsing | ? |
| 13:27.05 | mozrat | ibot change 314 usd to gbp |
| 13:29.13 | morsing | mozrat: Thanks |
| 13:29.17 | mozrat | np |
| 13:32.49 | George | Cope: pong |
| 13:44.21 | George | Cope: what dost thou wantest? |
| 13:45.13 | weasl | re Slackware fun: now that it is installed, how can I start/check that CUPS has started? TIA |
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| 13:46.47 | morsing | LeedsHK! |
| 13:59.40 | Cope | George: if you're not using the sparc station, I have a friend who would like to |
| 14:06.30 | Cope | weasl: cups listens on port 631; try browsing to localhost:631 |
| 14:07.12 | morsing | <M_Knight> no, there are never any around these days, I just use normal ones. |
| 14:07.31 | George | Cope: erm |
| 14:07.37 | George | Cope: I will be using it at some point |
| 14:07.40 | Cope | ok |
| 14:07.42 | Cope | that's fine |
| 14:09.40 | George | just with... one thing and another... I haven't really had time for computers much |
| 14:11.34 | mozrat | George: did you have time yet to think about writing that Howto for me? |
| 14:11.56 | George | nope |
| 14:12.27 | weasl | cope: oops. I should have thought of that |
| 14:14.02 | SlammerXP | i wouldn't trsut george to write his name in crayon :) |
| 14:16.39 | George | well |
| 14:16.51 | George | I don't care because you're not a professional publishing who's likely to pay me money :P |
| 14:16.58 | George | s/ing/er/ |
| 14:19.52 | mozrat | and i am? |
| 14:20.46 | George | you don't say you don't trust me to write my name in crayon :P |
| 14:21.29 | George | I've finally got around to taking a decent photo of myself so that next time linux format ask for my photo I don't look like a twat in the mag because I don't have any decent ones to print |
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| 14:26.56 | mozrat | is it a photo of someone else? |
| 14:27.44 | SlammerXP | it would have to be, really |
| 14:28.12 | SlammerXP | i had an article in linux user ages about |
| 14:28.17 | SlammerXP | issue 2 or 3 i think |
| 14:28.22 | SlammerXP | ago |
| 14:28.52 | mozrat | Antique editions :) |
| 14:31.42 | George | mozrat: no |
| 14:31.47 | George | mozrat: gwright.org.uk/me.jpg |
| 14:32.12 | George | I've just had a job offer via email |
| 14:32.14 | George | rocfl |
| 14:32.26 | George | Hi there, |
| 14:32.26 | George | <PROTECTED> |
| 14:32.30 | George | <PROTECTED> |
| 14:32.31 | mozrat | me would like fries with that please |
| 14:32.33 | George | Can you please let me know if this role is of interest and if not, do you know anyone to whom it might be? |
| 14:32.36 | George | <PROTECTED> |
| 14:32.36 | SlammerXP | George: just so you know, most people have two eyebrows |
| 14:32.38 | George | Best regards, |
| 14:32.41 | George | <PROTECTED> |
| 14:32.43 | George | Alex |
| 14:34.21 | George | lol |
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| 14:55.17 | mozrat | George: ref gwright.org.uk/me.jpg... get a bloody haircut hippy! |
| 14:56.02 | George | mozrat: :) |
| 14:58.38 | mozrat | ewh! |
| 14:58.43 | George | what? |
| 14:58.55 | mozrat | Braindead finance application requires outbound UDP-137 to the internet to work |
| 14:59.03 | mozrat | nice |
| 14:59.15 | mozrat | will only pull updates over NetBIOS over the 'net |
| 14:59.31 | George | mozrat: btw, I was told to have a haircut by the deputy head |
| 14:59.41 | mozrat | and did you? |
| 15:00.45 | George | not yet |
| 15:00.56 | George | he told me on saturday |
| 15:01.23 | mozrat | I was suspended from school for having my hair too short |
| 15:01.33 | mozrat | This was a long time ago I grant you |
| 15:01.58 | murb | mozrat: that seems a little extreme, could you have worn a cap to avoid suspension? |
| 15:02.10 | murb | atleast if your hair is too long their is an obvious remedy. |
| 15:02.13 | George | mozrat: insanity! |
| 15:03.24 | mozrat | murb: I was just about to join the Army (this was as I was doing my final exams) and I got a bit carried away |
| 15:03.39 | mozrat | and no, I couldn't wear a cap - it wasn't in our uniform |
| 15:03.40 | George | I wonder how well the UltraSparc T1 performs |
| 15:03.45 | George | mozrat: you army freak |
| 15:03.49 | mozrat | George: not any more |
| 15:03.57 | mozrat | I like `Call of Duty' though |
| 15:04.15 | murb | George: you could have signed up when you were 15 with your parents permsision iirc. |
| 15:04.26 | George | why would I want to? |
| 15:05.17 | mozrat | I wonder if it is legally acceptable for us as an IRC channel to sign George up for the Army |
| 15:05.26 | mozrat | he spends more time in here than with his parents anyway |
| 15:05.41 | murb | mozrat: if he is 16 he can sign up himself. |
| 15:05.57 | murb | i'm luckly too old now for the army :-) |
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| 15:38.33 | morsing | LeedsHK! Erwin! |
| 15:43.49 | morsing | How do Where do you set ARG_MAX in Linux? |
| 15:44.57 | morsing | Mmm... Recompile. How stupid! |
| 15:45.09 | Erwin | What, 2 megabyte or such isn't enough for you? |
| 15:45.19 | morsing | Erwin: No |
| 15:45.29 | morsing | Erwin: Default is 128k |
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| 16:03.20 | morsing | Catalyst! |
| 16:04.33 | Catalyst | morsing! |
| 16:04.37 | AngelChild | :) |
| 16:09.44 | mozrat | hello AngelChild |
| 16:09.55 | AngelChild | hallo |
| 16:10.00 | mozrat | howzit? |
| 16:10.07 | AngelChild | s'alright :) |
| 16:10.14 | mozrat | good! |
| 16:11.32 | AngelChild | oh, heh, they put iso images up today |
| 16:11.35 | AngelChild | that makes it easier xD |
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| 16:13.25 | mozrat | Leeds version 2! |
| 16:13.46 | AngelChild | :o |
| 16:14.25 | morsing | richardc__! |
| 16:37.26 | weasl | thanks for all your help recently, Fedora seems to be doing what I need |
| 16:38.01 | kbsingh | what installer does Mandriva 2006 use ? |
| 16:46.33 | SlammerXP | i've written a poem for Henry |
| 16:46.46 | SlammerXP | # Roses red are, violet blue |
| 16:46.55 | SlammerXP | # Stop talking bollocks |
| 16:47.01 | SlammerXP | # Ess Tea Eff You |
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| 16:51.16 | mozrat | SlammerXP: I LIKE IT |
| 16:57.05 | kbsingh | mozrat, take it easy |
| 17:03.16 | wethrin | wibble |
| 17:06.01 | AngelChild | pure genius that poem :o |
| 17:06.24 | AngelChild | i have achieved today |
| 17:06.29 | AngelChild | I have completed serious sam xD |
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| 17:12.28 | morsing | wobble |
| 17:12.51 | AngelChild | wibble? |
| 17:12.52 | AngelChild | wobble! |
| 17:13.59 | wethrin | maybe |
| 17:21.06 | wethrin | probably |
| 17:21.33 | AngelChild | :D |
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| 17:22.27 | togster | evening |
| 17:22.31 | wethrin | whatho |
| 17:22.38 | AngelChild | bonjourno |
| 17:48.42 | wethrin | Hm. Joel Bernstein appeared a little bit rude (any relation to DJB, perchance?) |
| 17:52.38 | murb | fysh? |
| 17:55.16 | wethrin | fysh? |
| 17:59.30 | murb | joel@fysh.org |
| 18:00.06 | wethrin | yes......it means nothing to me |
| 18:11.55 | mozrat | hello all |
| 18:12.23 | mozrat | wethrin: Joel was a bit OTT yes |
| 18:13.00 | wethrin | That message is precicely why people are put off the "Linux Community" |
| 18:13.37 | mozrat | yeah, it is |
| 18:13.52 | mozrat | I regret getting involved in that p2p thread now tbh |
| 18:14.09 | mozrat | It's a complete waste of time |
| 18:14.51 | mozrat | Schipol Airport sells internet access at 10 euro for 24 hours |
| 18:14.57 | mozrat | which sounds reasonably cheap |
| 18:15.16 | mozrat | but then you realise if you are stuck in an airport for 24 hours you are having a bad day :) |
| 18:15.39 | wethrin | yup |
| 18:17.53 | murb | mozrat: or you can use it for free. |
| 18:18.03 | murb | atleast to get airport information which is quite useful. |
| 18:18.07 | murb | and they have nice chairs |
| 18:18.09 | murb | and desks |
| 18:18.11 | murb | with power. |
| 18:18.31 | murb | mozrat: Schipol isn't such a bad airport to be trapped in. |
| 18:19.41 | mozrat | murb: Yes, it's alright |
| 18:20.24 | resuDaed | afternoon all |
| 18:22.46 | resuDaed | is it possiblt to get a wireless AP to connect my hub to an already existing wireless network, sort of a bridge |
| 18:23.44 | mozrat | resuDaed: Sounds possible but I don't understand fully |
| 18:23.56 | mozrat | you want to bridge 2 wired LANs together by wireless? |
| 18:27.09 | resuDaed | mozrat : no, I want to bridge a wired lan to a wireless lan without a wire |
| 18:27.37 | resuDaed | sorry, other way around ... I want to bridge a wireless lan to a wired lan |
| 18:28.20 | mozrat | resuDaed: That should work fine |
| 18:28.30 | mozrat | a wireless access point is basically a bridge device |
| 18:28.49 | mozrat | so you can broadcast across it but it joins 2 separate "layer 2" networks |
| 18:30.20 | SlammerXP | pops too |
| 18:31.00 | mozrat | don't poo-poo in here |
| 18:31.26 | mozrat | SlammerXP: Do you have a link for unethical debating techniques? I had it somewhere |
| 18:31.38 | mozrat | it was posted to the list a while ago but I can't find it in the archives |
| 18:31.48 | SlammerXP | a link? |
| 18:32.00 | SlammerXP | i don't need help to debate unethically :) |
| 18:32.31 | resuDaed | mozrat : I have an existing wireless netwrok (802.11g, but I beleive is also working on 802.11b) and an 802.11b AP and a 24 port wired hub ... in simple terms I am trying to get the hosts on the hub to see the hosts on the wireless lan |
| 18:32.33 | mozrat | lol - I know *you* don't which is why I thought you had the link |
| 18:33.03 | SlammerXP | nope, i just make it up as I go along |
| 18:33.14 | SlammerXP | ghm, i'm out of project work again |
| 18:33.51 | mozrat | resuDaed: so `wireless point 1' --> WLAN --> `wireless point 2' --> Wired --> `hub' --> `hosts' |
| 18:34.08 | resuDaed | mozrat : that is what I am trying to do |
| 18:34.43 | resuDaed | but the software for AP2 is shite (and doesnt have an http interface, only snmp) |
| 18:34.52 | SlammerXP | bridging mismatchhed APs can be fun |
| 18:34.52 | mozrat | SlammerXP: you are a master at your art then |
| 18:35.24 | mozrat | resuDaed: yes, that may not be as trivial as I made out :) I thought you meant having 2 wireless access points on the same network and using either one |
| 18:35.31 | SlammerXP | where fun == often quicker and easier just to run a cable |
| 18:36.46 | resuDaed | and to make things more fun, my only tool is my laptop running winXP and I can only have either the wired or wireless nic in at once |
| 18:36.58 | resuDaed | SlammerXP : I havn't any spare cable |
| 18:37.08 | SlammerXP | i have loads, come pick one up |
| 18:38.33 | resuDaed | AP1 is a floor below me, so running a cable is not practical |
| 18:38.39 | mozrat | hehe "Conversational Terrorism" >> http://www.vandruff.com/art_converse.html |
| 18:44.37 | mozrat | heh - in trying to find this link (I remember it was pasted here by Leeds ages ago) I'm reading the search results for this page. http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&lr=&safe=off&q=site%3Aibot.rikers.org+George+kick&btnG=Search |
| 18:45.45 | mozrat | ibot kick George |
| 18:45.47 | ibot | bugger off sod! |
| 18:45.51 | mozrat | hmph! |
| 18:45.54 | resuDaed | about 4 of them |
| 18:46.27 | SlammerXP | # Hery and Diana up a tree K I, K I |
| 18:46.29 | SlammerXP | err |
| 18:46.35 | SlammerXP | # Henry and Diana up a tree K I, K I |
| 18:46.42 | SlammerXP | # Henry and Diana up a tree K I S S I N G |
| 18:47.34 | wethrin | Third time lucky |
| 18:47.42 | wethrin | But apparently Gllug is called Henry |
| 18:47.56 | murb | all a terrible mistake. |
| 18:50.14 | mozrat | At least Diana is innocent in her fallacies - you can't present an opinion to Henrietta |
| 18:53.11 | ranner | "Conversational Terrorism" reminds me of a good little book "The art of always being right" |
| 18:53.40 | mozrat | hello ranner |
| 18:54.08 | George | HELLO |
| 18:54.08 | ranner | hi |
| 18:54.09 | George | MOZRAT |
| 18:54.20 | mozrat | George! |
| 18:54.23 | George | hi |
| 18:54.26 | ranner | (I'm Paul Rayner on the list) |
| 18:54.32 | mozrat | Ahh, cool |
| 18:54.42 | mozrat | I'm aka Simon Morris |
| 18:54.49 | ranner | cool |
| 18:54.59 | George | apparently, I have an offer from Warwick. |
| 18:55.01 | ranner | Henry's not on here is he?\ |
| 18:55.04 | ranner | :s |
| 18:55.17 | mozrat | ranner: I dunno - he'd be welcome here if he was |
| 18:55.36 | zx80user | hmmm, I've been here for an hour and I am still not clear as whether it is acceptible to ask a support type question, but here goes anyway - what is the different between foomatic and cups - can I safely swap between the two? (Ducks) |
| 18:55.49 | mozrat | zx80user: HOW DARE YOU! |
| 18:55.51 | wethrin | I'd be Dan Kolb, but it's easy to find that out. I rarely post anyway |
| 18:55.52 | mozrat | zx80user: :) |
| 18:55.56 | George | This offer is subject to your obtaining Obtain grades AAB at A-Level in 3 subjects including Mathematics and obtain grade B at AS-Level in 1 additional subject. This offer includes examinations taken in 2005 and 2006 but excudes General Studies. |
| 18:56.00 | ranner | I know, but l've just been reading the messages posted so far today |
| 18:56.14 | wethrin | George: Who from? |
| 18:56.20 | George | wethrin: warwick |
| 18:56.36 | mozrat | ranner: I had a run-in with someone on list a few months back and then found out only weeks ago that I'd known him on IRC for a while :) |
| 18:56.42 | wethrin | Ahh. Not a nice University. (Aesthetically) |
| 18:56.48 | mozrat | ranner: that was quite surprising |
| 18:56.52 | wethrin | mozrat: Martin? :) |
| 18:57.00 | mozrat | wethrin: Yes! (not really, no) |
| 18:57.13 | George | wethrin: hah |
| 18:57.35 | mozrat | zx80user: Sorry, I don't know. Printing seems to just work for me (tm) but someone will know. Are you on the warm and fuzzy Gllug mailing list? |
| 18:57.44 | wethrin | What's foomatic? |
| 18:57.46 | ranner | mozrat: I did a similar thing whilst at University, had a long argument with someone on a forum, only to realise I sat next to him and tended to agree at meetings |
| 18:57.54 | George | wethrin: it's a fairly good uni though, no? |
| 18:57.58 | zx80user | mozrat indeed |
| 18:58.06 | wethrin | I'd personally avoid CUPS for being hateful, and trying to be a solution for a problem that needs to be found |
| 18:58.06 | SlammerXP | wethrin: PPD bundles for linux |
| 18:58.09 | wethrin | George: For maths, yes |
| 18:58.12 | mozrat | ranner: lol - thats even more bizarre if you knew him in person |
| 18:58.15 | mozrat | zx80user: Post it up! |
| 18:58.15 | George | wethrin: what about CS? |
| 18:58.17 | wethrin | SlammerXP: Ahh....so it's complementary to cups, then |
| 18:58.18 | SlammerXP | CUPS is lovely. |
| 18:58.23 | zx80user | mozrat thought the question verred towards the trivial so thought IRC was better |
| 18:58.29 | SlammerXP | wethrin: yes. |
| 18:58.47 | wethrin | George: I think it's quite decent for that too |
| 18:58.51 | mozrat | zx80user: No, I wouldn't agree. TBH I don't know the answer so I'd be interested in the thread |
| 18:58.57 | wethrin | I just went past it and decided I couldn't stand the place |
| 18:59.02 | wethrin | All 60s buildings, in the middle of nowhere |
| 18:59.13 | zx80user | SlammerXP wish I could agree :) Finally got it work properly on Fedora and then introduced an ubuntu box on my network and it's back to endless pain |
| 18:59.29 | wethrin | SlammerXP: Well, I've always used lpr + apsfilter, and it's worked without any pain for me |
| 18:59.34 | wethrin | cups caused me pain |
| 18:59.36 | SlammerXP | zx80user: serves you right for a) using fedora and b) using ubuntu |
| 18:59.56 | wethrin | .oO(don't feed the troll) |
| 19:00.00 | SlammerXP | configuring a printer with CUPS is easier than doing so on windows |
| 19:00.26 | mozrat | zx80user: If you are using Gnome have you tried the graphical printing setup utility? |
| 19:00.30 | SlammerXP | it's a web interface, you have to click maybe 4 times. |
| 19:00.35 | zx80user | SlammerXP, ubuntu seems less cups friendly than fedora |
| 19:00.43 | mozrat | zx80user: It seems reliable enough for me, but I only print over the network |
| 19:00.47 | wethrin | SlammerXP: And windows requires about 5 clicks. Not so bad, really |
| 19:02.07 | zx80user | hehehe just heard that Kazakstan threatening Sasah baron Cohen over Borat :) Have to laugh |
| 19:02.26 | wethrin | Heh. |
| 19:04.27 | mozrat | zx80user: lol |
| 19:04.52 | mozrat | All the chavs will be threatening him over Ali G next |
| 19:05.15 | wethrin | Nah. That'd involve chavs knowing how to go to a lawyer |
| 19:06.02 | ranner | How to get a lawyer in two easy steps: |
| 19:06.08 | ranner | 1) break law |
| 19:06.12 | ranner | 2) get caught |
| 19:06.45 | zx80user | seven year old bored with C4 News so I guess I'll never know how serious a threat it ever was |
| 19:07.14 | wethrin | zx80user: They're not talking about Borat on the C4 news at the moment |
| 19:07.35 | wethrin | "What do you call a chav in a suit?" "The accused" |
| 19:07.41 | mozrat | zx80user: Put him/her in the cupboard and turn it back over |
| 19:07.57 | zx80user | mozratlife's too short |
| 19:08.13 | mozrat | zx80user: for the tantrum? |
| 19:08.17 | zx80user | indeed |
| 19:08.51 | zx80user | she shoots around the house in skates and so could make a lot of noise :) |
| 19:10.35 | mozrat | wethrin: that guy from the Wolves LUG who sells T-Shirts could probably do it |
| 19:10.42 | mozrat | along with "Impeach God" |
| 19:11.06 | mozrat | SlammerXP: Is that security FAQ best served as a separate document or do you want to merge it into your project? |
| 19:11.29 | SlammerXP | ummm, it seemed like FAQ material to me |
| 19:11.40 | wethrin | "Is Linux 100% secure?" "No." |
| 19:11.41 | SlammerXP | the source is XML you can do whatever you like with it |
| 19:12.08 | SlammerXP | for Bob's sake, don't try and do anything with the html |
| 19:12.12 | SlammerXP | :) |
| 19:12.15 | mozrat | SlammerXP: No, I'd rather keep your stuff in the style you have done it |
| 19:12.37 | mozrat | SlammerXP: I tried importing your HTML into Mambo and it looked crap (because of mambos WYSIWYG editor) |
| 19:12.56 | SlammerXP | it's not _my_ html. it's xsltproc's |
| 19:12.57 | mozrat | It's better as an external link |
| 19:13.01 | mozrat | SlammerXP: Yes, I know :) |
| 19:13.09 | mozrat | It wasn't the HTML's fault - it was Mambo |
| 19:13.15 | SlammerXP | can't Mambo suck in xml? |
| 19:13.24 | mozrat | SlammerXP: I dunno, I'll find out |
| 19:14.26 | resuDaed | does anyone know of any opensource (snmp based) wireless AP config software for windoze? |
| 19:15.04 | SlammerXP | i imagine that would be brand and model specific |
| 19:15.10 | mozrat | resuDaed: I would think such things are vendor specific |
| 19:15.15 | mozrat | snap |
| 19:16.11 | resuDaed | I did find a peice of software once in the debian archives that allowed fairly generic config of wireless APs (through snmp) |
| 19:16.15 | SlammerXP | 3. |
| 19:16.15 | SlammerXP | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:16.37 | SlammerXP | and what is that guy with the norwegian luggage tag coming after me with an axe?!?!?! |
| 19:16.41 | SlammerXP | *ahem* |
| 19:17.43 | mozrat | gah |
| 19:18.23 | SlammerXP | # Roses red are, violet blue.... |
| 19:18.24 | SlammerXP | :) |
| 19:18.42 | SlammerXP | mozrat: post that too the list :) |
| 19:18.53 | mozrat | dare me first |
| 19:18.58 | SlammerXP | i dare you. |
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| 19:22.13 | mozrat | Ahhh, my favourite palindromic person |
| 19:22.32 | mozrat | evening all |
| 19:22.32 | SlammerXP | <cy_> does anyone know reiserfs in here ? i accidently removed a file from within windows.. is there a way to recover this file ? |
| 19:22.42 | SlammerXP | <SlammerXP> cy_: restore from your backup |
| 19:22.50 | SlammerXP | <cy_> SlammerXP; what backup ? |
| 19:23.02 | mozrat | SlammerXP: if #debian didn't give me such a headache I'd spend more time in there |
| 19:23.16 | mozrat | cheerio |
| 19:25.35 | IAmAI | Hi, Mozrat. |
| 19:25.48 | IAmAI | Where you there on Saturday? |
| 19:26.01 | resuDaed | SlammerXP : can you use reiserfs from within windows? |
| 19:26.26 | SlammerXP | i neither know nor care :) |
| 19:30.44 | wethrin | I don't think you can |
| 19:30.52 | wethrin | resuDaed: But maybe a Samba share? |
| 19:30.59 | IAmAI | Can anyone help me with some Linux problems? I'm new... |
| 19:31.17 | SlammerXP | IAmAI: ask your clear and concise questions after the tone |
| 19:31.20 | SlammerXP | *beeeeep* |
| 19:31.43 | IAmAI | Erm... |
| 19:32.29 | wethrin | The answers are: Use Debian. Use Spamassassin. Check your firewall. HTH. |
| 19:33.47 | murb | pity really that pc bioses don't have options for low level formating any more. |
| 19:33.49 | IAmAI | If you tell Ubuntu to use an entire disk, will it only format as much as it needs and leave the rest unformated? |
| 19:34.59 | SlammerXP | IAmAI: I'm actually not sure how to answer that. what's the reason for your question? |
| 19:35.38 | wethrin | IAmAI: It should format all the partitions you tell it to |
| 19:35.39 | IAmAI | Well, I have 2 partitions, one of which is unpartitioned. |
| 19:35.53 | IAmAI | I mean, 'unformated, sorry. |
| 19:36.00 | SlammerXP | okay. |
| 19:36.47 | SlammerXP | and....? |
| 19:37.15 | IAmAI | If I made a new partition, I would like to use for my user files, and any future software/packages... |
| 19:37.59 | SlammerXP | okay. well, you can do that now or later. |
| 19:38.19 | IAmAI | If I set the access path to 'home' for the new partition, must I do anything else so that software/packages are installed there? |
| 19:39.21 | wethrin | Yes - either link /usr/local into it, or install software with a prefix of /home |
| 19:39.33 | IAmAI | OKee. |
| 19:40.39 | IAmAI | What's the diference between the 'usr' directory, the 'home' directory? |
| 19:40.44 | SlammerXP | or just move /<something> onto the new disk when you start getting short on space. |
| 19:41.09 | wethrin | /home contains the users' home directories |
| 19:41.10 | SlammerXP | IAmAI: usr is for things to be used in common by users. libraries and programs and such. /home is for user data. |
| 19:41.17 | wethrin | What SlammerXP said |
| 19:41.18 | IAmAI | Ah. |
| 19:41.19 | murb | wethrin: although /usr can as well. |
| 19:41.27 | wethrin | murb: Well, /usr/home, yes |
| 19:41.28 | murb | histerically. |
| 19:41.33 | wethrin | But normally you'll still get /home being a link |
| 19:42.00 | IAmAI | I don't have a 'usr/home' directory. |
| 19:42.04 | IAmAI | Although, that would be a good idea. |
| 19:42.09 | murb | that is unsuprising. |
| 19:42.29 | murb | IAmAI: you should probably try and keep data and programs seperate. |
| 19:42.41 | IAmAI | On seperate partitions? |
| 19:43.32 | wethrin | Depends on your installation requirements :) |
| 19:43.47 | wethrin | On servers, you tend to split up /, /var, /usr, /usr/local, /home, and sometimes /tmp |
| 19:44.10 | wethrin | On home systems, people tend to go for either one big partition, or split up / and /home |
| 19:45.40 | IAmAI | OK... Let me tell you how I'd like my file system, and perhaps you can tell me how to get there... |
| 19:46.17 | IAmAI | Currently I have 2 partitions: a 500MB Extended 3 partition used by |
| 19:46.49 | IAmAI | 1. A 500MB Extended 3 partition used by Ubunto. Currently it has the OS files and software/packages on. |
| 19:47.26 | IAmAI | 2. I have a 13.75G of unpartition space. I'd like to partition that into 2 partitions, one for programs and one for user files. |
| 19:47.32 | IAmAI | Is that a good plan? |
| 19:47.52 | wethrin | Yes |
| 19:47.54 | IAmAI | Cool. |
| 19:48.08 | SlammerXP | frankly, if it's all on the same physical disk, don't bother with the partitions |
| 19:48.17 | wethrin | But if you're installing software from packages rather than from source, you'll want to move the entire /usr over to the new partition |
| 19:48.33 | SlammerXP | just have one big / partition and one swap partition |
| 19:48.46 | SlammerXP | less messing about, much easier to fix if it breaks |
| 19:48.54 | wethrin | SlammerXP: Some people may want to reinstall a distribution, or change distribution, without destroying their /home data |
| 19:48.56 | IAmAI | What if you corrupt your system and have to reinstall the OS? |
| 19:49.39 | SlammerXP | wethrin: that's what backups are for. |
| 19:49.59 | wethrin | Hm |
| 19:50.09 | IAmAI | True, but this will save you the pain of having to copy files from DVDs... |
| 19:50.18 | IAmAI | I imagine. |
| 19:50.22 | wethrin | Surely everyone has a DLT drive :-) |
| 19:51.21 | IAmAI | I may want to do exactly what wethrin said: "SlammerXP: Some people may want to reinstall a distribution, or change distribution, without destroying their /home data" |
| 19:51.43 | SlammerXP | that'll stop once you get round to debian |
| 19:52.11 | wethrin | But Debian sucks :-P |
| 19:52.24 | IAmAI | Well, I've made my mind up about how I want my file system. |
| 19:53.13 | IAmAI | The thing that concers me is choosing the access path, and copying installed software without cocking things up. |
| 19:54.33 | wethrin | Easy - copy data, and then just mount in the appropriate place |
| 19:55.29 | IAmAI | Must I set an access path for a partition? |
| 19:55.43 | IAmAI | At least, at first? |
| 19:55.53 | wethrin | no |
| 19:56.01 | IAmAI | Cool. |
| 19:56.40 | IAmAI | I can access it through 'dev/hda#' (replace #), can't I? |
| 19:56.48 | wethrin | No :) |
| 19:56.53 | wethrin | You need to mount it first |
| 19:57.13 | IAmAI | Right. |
| 19:57.40 | SlammerXP | exciting. the faqhas been visited by literally some people |
| 19:57.51 | IAmAI | Can you guide me through it? Ubunto won't let me specify the size of partition... |
| 19:58.21 | wethrin | How're you partitioning? |
| 19:58.32 | IAmAI | Disk Manager GUI. |
| 19:59.35 | IAmAI | Which seems to crash everytime I close the formating dialog. |
| 20:04.36 | wethrin | ahh......use fdisk :) |
| 20:20.02 | *** join/#gllug ldnblk (n=Just@optbom1.uk.access.vodafone.net) |
| 20:29.03 | highbury | or get a decent partitioning tool, like I was demoing in the pub |
| 20:30.05 | ldnblk | allo highbury thanks for that paritioning demo |
| 20:30.10 | George | hey highbury |
| 20:30.33 | ldnblk | still have not managed to get the wifi working yet on my ugly laptop |
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| 21:59.11 | SlammerXP | does it have the word "dell" written on anywhere? |
| 21:59.30 | barrera | hi there |
| 21:59.33 | mikejw | nopey nope :) |
| 21:59.40 | SlammerXP | phew, lucky break. |
| 22:00.46 | mikejw | the only bad luck was a german keyboard and one dead pixel but I can live with that :D |
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| 22:31.11 | IAmAI | Anyone here that was at the meeting last Saturday? |
| 22:36.59 | highbury | me |
| 22:37.22 | highbury | I was helping ldnblk in the pub |
| 22:39.12 | IAmAI | Did you show me how to install Ubuntu? |
| 22:39.23 | IAmAI | Dan, my name is ;) |
| 22:40.26 | IAmAI | Cos I got Ubuntu to install all fine - I'm using it now. |
| 22:40.38 | IAmAI | (highbury) |
| 23:08.16 | George | 23:04 <jamesgib> Sorry about that earlier. My keyboard went mad = lettres changed for numbers (paniced!!!) I restored my system to what it was yesterday, everything is fine now! You reackon it was a virus. v strange |
| 23:08.26 | George | someone doesn't know about numlock |
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| 23:17.47 | mozrat | hallo |
| 23:18.40 | mikejw | watchya |
| 23:19.40 | mozrat | hey mikejw |
| 23:20.06 | mikejw | :) |
| 23:20.17 | mikejw | bluetooth? |
| 23:20.38 | mozrat | no, i have a blackberry device with a SSH client |
| 23:20.57 | mozrat | And GPRS |
| 23:21.07 | mikejw | coolio :D |
| 23:21.20 | mozrat | yeah, its handy |
| 23:21.56 | mikejw | does it use Java? |
| 23:22.04 | mozrat | ive probably used it 5% for router admin, 5% for *nix admin and 90% for IRC |
| 23:22.20 | mozrat | no, i dont think it does |
| 23:22.29 | mozrat | but it may do actually... |
| 23:22.52 | mozrat | hmm. google for mobileSSH if you care enough |
| 23:22.59 | mikejw | I tried a java ssh client on my old phone but it didn't work too well :) |
| 23:23.10 | mikejw | cool |
| 23:26.29 | mikejw | I'm hoping to be joining the world of wifi soon |
| 23:27.00 | mozrat | WLAN or GPRS type wireless? |
| 23:29.33 | mozrat | yay - home. catch you another day!! |
| 23:31.37 | mikejw | WLAN |
| 23:31.41 | mikejw | take care |
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| 23:58.45 | Leeds | you know, one good thing about the whole Sony rootkit/spyware/crap/evil thing is that it's *really* brought the issue to public attention |
