| 00:27.32 | new2unix | night all |
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| 00:45.20 | Leeds | morning anyone awake |
| 00:59.55 | JAV | morning :) |
| 01:01.39 | Leeds | I wonder if it's a coincidence that the drilling/jackhammering outside started at precisely 9am |
| 01:04.30 | JAV | so that's why you are awake on saturday at 9am :) |
| 01:11.36 | Leeds | nah, I was awake before that :-) |
| 01:24.32 | JAV | good night! |
| 01:30.47 | Leeds | night |
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| 03:47.00 | Leeds | morning AngelChild |
| 03:49.56 | AngelChild | heya |
| 03:50.32 | AngelChild | i really wish i didn't talk about my problems to people, cause whenever i do sleep just evaporates |
| 03:52.30 | Leeds | it's almost noon here :-) |
| 03:56.01 | AngelChild | where are you? |
| 03:56.43 | Leeds | Hong Kong |
| 03:57.01 | AngelChild | you get around a bit don'tcha :) |
| 03:57.13 | AngelChild | i desperately need a holiday |
| 03:57.34 | Leeds | I'm not on holiday... I'm living and working (of course not - not on a tourist visa!) here |
| 03:58.15 | AngelChild | I Still need a holiday :p |
| 03:58.46 | Leeds | I think the last 6 weeks are the longest time I've spent in one country for many months |
| 03:59.17 | AngelChild | what's your job? |
| 03:59.35 | Leeds | working for a bra company |
| 03:59.58 | AngelChild | o.o |
| 04:00.04 | AngelChild | fair enough :P |
| 04:00.12 | Leeds | more like OxO |
| 04:00.36 | Leeds | working on computer stuff, for the moment, but that's less interesting |
| 04:00.42 | AngelChild | :d |
| 04:01.17 | Leeds | head office in Hong Kong, factory in Sri Lanka |
| 04:02.32 | AngelChild | chinese bras in warehouses all over the continent |
| 04:03.28 | Leeds | our bras aren't Chinese - they're Sri Lankan :-) |
| 04:03.54 | AngelChild | i know, but it's 5am and my mind isn't in any kind of solid state :) |
| 04:04.37 | Leeds | heh |
| 04:04.51 | Leeds | so how's your summer been? |
| 04:05.38 | AngelChild | good - got a job, made money, been to football games, made new friends |
| 04:05.55 | Leeds | sounds like fun |
| 04:06.03 | AngelChild | bad - still hung up on lack of any kind of relationship, lack of sleep, lack of purpose in life |
| 04:06.14 | AngelChild | I'd've been fired already if this was an industry job |
| 04:06.33 | Leeds | eh... same problems here... |
| 04:07.06 | AngelChild | heh |
| 04:07.28 | Leeds | except I've had the bonus of being parachuted into a senior position in a vaguely interesting industry in an exotic part of the world... |
| 04:07.51 | AngelChild | I live near a pub called the hobbit ¬.¬ |
| 04:07.54 | AngelChild | i think you win :( |
| 04:08.06 | Leeds | nearest pub here is called the Phoenix |
| 04:08.48 | Leeds | but this is not a good town for doing the relationship thing, I think |
| 04:09.45 | AngelChild | I'm just incresingly annoyed by all the couples i see around me |
| 04:10.26 | Leeds | ditto |
| 04:12.08 | AngelChild | plus with everything else I go through now that I may potentially have found someone it's all messed up anyway |
| 04:12.26 | AngelChild | then i wonder why i do anything anyway |
| 04:12.48 | AngelChild | only thing i look forward to is going to see watford play, since they have this habit of winning lately |
| 04:12.52 | AngelChild | which is novel |
| 04:13.46 | Leeds | see, I used to look down on Watford as a natural 1st division (2nd division) team... can't do that any more |
| 04:14.19 | AngelChild | hmm? |
| 04:14.25 | AngelChild | heh |
| 04:14.40 | AngelChild | everyone gets a chance to snigger at norwich now too xD |
| 04:15.22 | Leeds | but people used to take Leeds seriously... now they're just a laughing stock |
| 04:16.48 | AngelChild | I think chelsea are going to end up seriously screwed over when ambramovich decides he doesn't care about them any more |
| 04:17.26 | AngelChild | Leeds just tried to buy success and failed |
| 04:18.03 | AngelChild | not really a laughing stock any more, just another one of those championship teams people don't think about much any more :d |
| 04:18.27 | Leeds | yeah |
| 04:18.37 | AngelChild | like watford xD |
| 04:18.52 | AngelChild | watford don't really do much except avoid relegation |
| 04:18.53 | Leeds | but Leeds were the last 1st division champs before the premiership! |
| 04:19.07 | AngelChild | \o/ |
| 04:19.59 | AngelChild | the whole vialli thing was a horror |
| 04:22.26 | Leeds | to be honest, I'm not that into football... |
| 04:24.26 | AngelChild | xD |
| 04:24.29 | AngelChild | I am :( |
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| 07:47.35 | Leeds-Treo | a year ago, I think I'd just been admitted to A&E... |
| 07:52.42 | Leeds-Treo | I wonder why there is what seems to be a British naval ship docked and fully of tourists |
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| 11:06.45 | Leeds-Treo | evening anyone |
| 11:07.21 | wethrin | hello |
| 11:08.15 | wethrin | Hurrah? |
| 11:08.16 | George | lol |
| 11:08.24 | wethrin | It's a George |
| 11:08.29 | wethrin | Is he still in funny furren countries? |
| 11:08.41 | Leeds-Treo | a laughing George, no less! |
| 11:08.55 | wethrin | He always laughs |
| 11:10.02 | Leeds-Treo | a little worryingly - anyway, I think his KDE love-in is still on |
| 11:10.27 | Leeds-Treo | hah! IRC on a phone, on the Tube! :-) |
| 11:11.05 | wethrin | Oh dear |
| 11:11.13 | wethrin | You antisocial something! |
| 11:11.20 | George | hush |
| 11:12.09 | Leeds-Treo | what? I'm surrounded by variously-English-speaking Chinese strangers... |
| 11:12.29 | George | I'm surrounded by KDE dudes |
| 11:12.33 | wethrin | Heh |
| 11:12.37 | Leeds-Treo | I win. |
| 11:12.38 | wethrin | dudes? or weenies? |
| 11:13.12 | George | dudes. |
| 11:13.36 | wethrin | Heh |
| 11:13.37 | Leeds-Treo | I win, if for no other reason than at least 1/2 of the people around me are not dudes. |
| 11:13.45 | wethrin | But are they attractive? |
| 11:14.28 | Leeds-Treo | some are, yes... if you like Chinese girls, obviously |
| 11:14.52 | Leeds-Treo | would be a dangerous place for rhowe, for example :-) |
| 11:15.06 | wethrin | Indeed :) |
| 11:20.43 | George | moo |
| 11:24.11 | Leeds-Treo | quite sad how short the MTR ride is which corresponds to most of an afternoon or walking |
| 11:24.32 | wethrin | Nice fast transport |
| 11:25.42 | Leeds-Treo | but I'm being *really* lazy and getting a cab up the hill |
| 11:28.13 | Leeds-Treo | my feet hurt... can't be bothered with the esscalator |
| 11:29.27 | wethrin | Lazy |
| 11:30.42 | Leeds-Treo | busy roads this evening... |
| 11:45.16 | Leeds | I'm not happy about my bathroom ceiling |
| 12:31.05 | rhowe | woo, 300MB of photos in half a day |
| 12:31.09 | George | mooo |
| 12:34.25 | rhowe | how else can I rack up over 10MB per image? :) |
| 12:41.18 | Leeds | heh |
| 12:41.32 | rhowe | lots of mushroom photos today |
| 12:42.10 | Leeds | rhowe: how about walking from mid-levels on the island to Sham Shui Po... decent walk? |
| 12:42.33 | rhowe | Leeds: Hm.. about 45mins-1 hour I think |
| 12:42.45 | rhowe | Leeds: I've walked from Kwoloon Tong to Jordan.. took about 45mins IIRC |
| 12:43.27 | rhowe | kinda hard to walk across the harbour though |
| 12:48.37 | Leeds | ferry :-) |
| 12:48.50 | Leeds | and it took a lot longer than that |
| 12:50.28 | rhowe | I guess it would be half an hour at least to Jordan actually |
| 12:50.34 | rhowe | so maybe 1h40mins |
| 13:02.52 | Leeds | something like that, yeah |
| 13:04.54 | rhowe | Also the kowloon tong route is pretty direct.. don't need to walk via prince edward |
| 13:04.56 | rhowe | dunno about SSP |
| 13:14.16 | Leeds | I went via Prince Edward - was following the MTR route :-) |
| 13:14.22 | Leeds | anyway, time to go out and socialise |
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| 13:39.00 | gary_ | bonjour |
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| 13:51.28 | morsing | ~seen wethrin |
| 13:51.30 | ibot | wethrin is currently on #gllug (15h 14m 37s) #classiccmp (15h 14m 37s). Has said a total of 43 messages. Is idling for 2h 22m 3s |
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| 14:07.13 | wethrin | morsgin! |
| 14:08.22 | morsing | wethrin! |
| 14:08.41 | wethrin | morsing! Why doen't henrik@morsing.cc work? |
| 14:08.49 | morsing | My servers connection can only download at about 30kb/s |
| 14:08.50 | morsing | ! |
| 14:08.53 | wethrin | You've been unsubscribed from both Gllug and the Social lists due to excessive bounces |
| 14:08.59 | morsing | wethrin: Because of DNS caching |
| 14:09.04 | wethrin | Where are you downloading from? |
| 14:09.05 | wethrin | Bah |
| 14:09.20 | morsing | wethrin: That address hasn't worked from two months |
| 14:09.26 | morsing | s/from/for/ |
| 14:09.39 | wethrin | Ahh. Resubscribe to the lists, then! |
| 14:10.12 | morsing | wethrinftp.demon.co.uk |
| 14:10.13 | rhowe | heh, I managed to get my camera to produce a 4.9MB JPEG |
| 14:10.57 | wethrin | morsing: Hm. I get about 150K/sec using scp between my machine and one in the states |
| 14:11.06 | morsing | How do I check the NIC setting on Linux? |
| 14:11.10 | wethrin | ifconfig |
| 14:11.22 | morsing | wethrin: That's still not alot |
| 14:11.28 | morsing | s/alot/a lot/ |
| 14:11.49 | morsing | ifconfig won't show that |
| 14:12.03 | wethrin | Well, I get similar from Durham to that server, so I'm not too bothered |
| 14:13.28 | rhowe | morsing: Sounds like duplex mismatch |
| 14:13.36 | rhowe | morsing: Try forcing the media type |
| 14:14.05 | wethrin | Yes - I think Mark's using a Cisco switch, which have problems auto-negotiating |
| 14:15.02 | rhowe | Catalysts are notorious, from what I've heard |
| 14:15.39 | morsing | rhowe: But how? |
| 14:15.51 | morsing | emil:/webdomains# mii-tool |
| 14:15.51 | rhowe | morsing: Usually a module parameter |
| 14:15.51 | morsing | eth0: no autonegotiation, 100baseTx-HD, link ok |
| 14:15.51 | morsing | eth1: no link |
| 14:15.59 | rhowe | morsing: modinfo -p <module name> |
| 14:16.20 | morsing | I don't use modules |
| 14:16.24 | wethrin | Can't ifconfig set the media options? |
| 14:16.43 | morsing | wethrin: No |
| 14:16.46 | morsing | mii-tool can |
| 14:17.20 | wethrin | Ick |
| 14:17.24 | wethrin | BSD++ - does it all |
| 14:17.42 | wethrin | Because, well, maybe it's, say, CONFIGuring an InterFace? |
| 14:17.57 | morsing | wethrin: No ifconfig on any Unix can do that |
| 14:18.12 | wethrin | morsing: BSD ifconfig will allow me to select media types |
| 14:18.23 | morsing | And speed> |
| 14:18.26 | morsing | >] |
| 14:18.27 | morsing | ? |
| 14:18.47 | wethrin | morsing: Yes |
| 14:19.03 | wethrin | ifconfig hme0 media 10baseT mediaopt full-duplex |
| 14:19.06 | wethrin | (for example) |
| 14:22.47 | rhowe | http://www.siksai.co.uk/gallery/newcamera?page=10 |
| 14:22.57 | rhowe | Lots of mushroom pictures today :P |
| 14:31.01 | JAV | 'afternoon |
| 14:41.21 | morsing | <PROTECTED> |
| 14:41.26 | morsing | Fetched 134kB in 0s (144kB/s) |
| 14:43.03 | wethrin | Ahh |
| 14:43.12 | wethrin | morsing: So I need to set mine to full duplex? |
| 14:43.14 | morsing | wethrin: Mark still hasn't sent me the documentation |
| 14:43.20 | morsing | wethrin: Yes |
| 14:43.24 | wethrin | Ask him on Monday :) |
| 14:43.26 | wethrin | Hmm..... |
| 14:43.42 | morsing | I'm going on holiday tomorrow morning and I need it while I'm away! |
| 14:43.54 | wethrin | Ahhhh |
| 14:44.00 | wethrin | Hm. What if it doesn't break? |
| 14:47.07 | wethrin | Well, setting the media to FD manually hasn't broken yet... |
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| 14:57.22 | zachary | ello |
| 14:57.30 | wethrin | zach! |
| 15:04.44 | zachary | my son drew on his wall. Another cleaning job :( |
| 15:05.40 | wethrin | Oops |
| 15:08.43 | zachary | A tape-drive should be considered a block device, right? |
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| 15:13.41 | wethrin | Yes |
| 15:18.45 | zachary | I'm trying to help my wife with a back up problem with HP-UX B.10.20. For some reason, HPUX is allocating it as a character device, which is throwing me off a bit. Know of a way that I can actually tell where the drive is actually allocated too. dmesg was quite vague. |
| 15:22.47 | wethrin | What does dmesg give? |
| 15:26.14 | zachary | closest entries that make sense are: "8/12/5.3.0 stape, 8/12/5.5 tgt, 8/12/5.5.0 stape..." |
| 15:26.24 | wethrin | hm |
| 15:26.31 | wethrin | Pass. Not that I've used HPUX |
| 15:27.30 | zachary | Bugger that they don't give better info. Thanks anyways. |
| 15:28.34 | zachary | Still doing the pub meetings? |
| 15:31.38 | wethrin | Occasionally when I'm back in London :) |
| 15:34.22 | zachary | Since we moved back, we've become really poor. So the question become to either drink shit(cheap) beer or water? |
| 15:35.14 | wethrin | water |
| 15:35.17 | zachary | Trick question. Shit beer is close enough to water. |
| 15:35.24 | wethrin | Yes, but is also shit |
| 15:35.56 | zachary | ok, bad tasting water, that needs to be reboiled and filtered. |
| 15:37.12 | wethrin | Mmm |
| 15:43.28 | z00dax | wow! petrol at £1 |
| 15:43.37 | Leeds | z00dax: wtf? |
| 15:43.46 | wethrin | Yeah, some little out-of-the-way places |
| 15:43.48 | wethrin | Or city centre |
| 15:44.28 | wethrin | drunkenness! |
| 15:44.30 | z00dax | I just drove in from Hastings, stopped at a place enroute near Maidstone, petrol at £1/ltr |
| 15:44.42 | wethrin | motorway services? |
| 15:44.45 | Leeds | more relaxedness |
| 15:45.00 | z00dax | wethrin: yea |
| 15:45.08 | wethrin | ahhh |
| 15:46.25 | z00dax | I finally got fuel at my local Tesco's at 92p |
| 15:46.43 | Leeds | whoa |
| 15:47.05 | z00dax | wethrin: give it to me |
| 15:47.11 | wethrin | No :-P |
| 15:47.19 | wethrin | Unless you give me back more money a year later |
| 15:47.41 | Leeds | wethrin: give it to me - no tax on anything but business profits, rental income and salaries here |
| 15:47.50 | z00dax | doh! I hate it when a typo ruins it... |
| 15:47.53 | wethrin | Heh |
| 15:48.04 | Leeds | Nigel 411? |
| 15:48.21 | wethrin | Well, Nationwide Members' ISA bond has an APR of 4.9% (tax-free), however only allows £3k to be invested |
| 15:48.50 | z00dax | Nigerian thing... goes something like... I am George Bush, son of George bush, ex president of the US, have funds stocked up in .se, I trust you to hold them for me.. |
| 15:49.20 | Leeds | yeah, I know what they are :-) |
| 15:49.30 | wethrin | The members reward bond has a net 4.12% interest rate, but allows up to £5k to be invested |
| 15:49.40 | z00dax | someone sent me a George Bush version, lemme see if I can find it, was quite funny |
| 15:49.44 | wethrin | heh |
| 15:50.05 | George | moo |
| 15:50.06 | Leeds | you can only invest 3k in a cash ISA |
| 15:50.10 | wethrin | So I'm wondering if I should put £3k into an ISA, and £2k into the bond. |
| 15:50.12 | wethrin | Yeah |
| 15:50.30 | wethrin | Or can I get two ISAs with two different banks? |
| 15:51.13 | Leeds | you can only invest 3k in cash ISAs anywhere in one year |
| 15:51.39 | Leeds | you can invest another 3k in non-cash stuff as well |
| 15:52.09 | wethrin | So a cash ISA and a members ISA bond? |
| 15:52.28 | Leeds | does the bond carry risk? |
| 15:52.35 | wethrin | no |
| 15:52.59 | Leeds | I think the point is for the non-cash stuff to be things like stocks |
| 15:53.33 | Leeds | not sure how investing 3k with the bank is different from buying a risk-free bond from the bank |
| 15:54.15 | Leeds | I need to work out at what point I'm no longer resident in the UK - at which point I should really pull the cash out of the ISAs I have... |
| 15:54.31 | wethrin | Mm. Well, I think I'll go and mumble it over with Nationwide |
| 15:55.20 | Leeds | good plan... I just went into my building society and moved 3k over from an existing savings account |
| 15:55.39 | wethrin | Hm. No, it appears it has to be £3k in total |
| 15:55.55 | Leeds | 3k in cash mini-isa |
| 15:56.42 | wethrin | "You can save up to £3,000 each tax year and choose to split our £3k annual subscription between an Instant Access ISA and a Members' ISA Bond" |
| 15:57.13 | Leeds | so where did you get the 5k from? |
| 15:57.24 | wethrin | That's how much money I have to invest |
| 15:57.40 | Leeds | ah :-) |
| 15:57.44 | wethrin | A bond is maturing on the 11th - I want to keep the interest to pay off some debts, and re-invest the original £5k |
| 15:57.56 | wethrin | Ha |
| 15:57.59 | wethrin | Go to the pub |
| 15:58.07 | George | no |
| 15:58.10 | George | they want me to go to the beach |
| 15:58.13 | George | OF ALL PLACES. |
| 15:58.23 | wethrin | Ha ha! |
| 15:58.30 | Leeds | George: go to a chiringito |
| 15:58.37 | George | I'm going back to the residence |
| 15:58.39 | Leeds | (or however those foreign heathens spell it) |
| 15:58.39 | George | screw the beach |
| 15:58.40 | Leeds | no |
| 15:58.48 | Leeds | go find a nice beach bar |
| 15:58.56 | wethrin | Well, the beach does suck. But, Leeds' suggestion is good |
| 15:59.39 | wethrin | Maybe I can put £3k into and ISA; put the other £2k into a 1-year savings, and then plonk that into an ISA |
| 15:59.45 | Leeds | chiringitos (or whatever) are fun |
| 15:59.57 | wethrin | heh |
| 16:00.22 | Leeds | wethrin: yes, you can do that - you and may find the bank has a special deal for that where you get slightly more interest in return for not having access to the money |
| 16:00.33 | Leeds | my ISAs are instant-access and base-rate-tracking |
| 16:01.06 | wethrin | Yes. However, I think you can lose the interest if you access the money more than once a year |
| 16:01.19 | Leeds | they are tumbledown-looking bars/restaurants, right on the beach... |
| 16:01.57 | Leeds | you can only invest a maximum of 3k in a year, regardless of how much you pull out... so if you put in 2k, then pull out 1k, you can only invest 1k more |
| 16:02.09 | wethrin | yeah |
| 16:02.17 | wethrin | that too :) |
| 16:02.42 | Leeds | I'm not sure, mine may only pay interest on whatever's still in at the end of the year, or may just pro-rate the whole thing |
| 16:02.42 | wethrin | Anyway. I'll be able to pay off j-colo then. Although I need an address to send money to! |
| 16:03.42 | wethrin | I'll talk to them. At least Nationwide seem quite competent |
| 16:04.42 | Leeds | I get along well with mine - they're a local building Leeds society, albeit one of the bigger ones remaining mutual - and happen to have a branch in Watford |
| 16:05.03 | wethrin | Ah. Well, yes, building societies tend to be nicer and more competent than banks |
| 16:05.15 | wethrin | There's a Newcastle building society branch in Durham |
| 16:06.01 | Leeds | I won a savings account from them when I was about 3 - guessed the number of Lego bricks in a model at a county fair :-0 |
| 16:06.11 | wethrin | heh :-) |
| 16:06.22 | wethrin | Did they put money in it for you too? |
| 16:07.04 | Leeds | yup, 100GBP IIRC |
| 16:07.27 | wethrin | Ooh. Not bad |
| 16:07.43 | Leeds | it was on my birthday, I think |
| 16:08.01 | wethrin | Even better |
| 16:08.21 | Leeds | left me with a soft spot for them :-) |
| 16:08.31 | wethrin | :) |
| 16:09.33 | wethrin | Right. I think I'd better take the dog for a quick walk, and get some milk. Then eat food |
| 16:09.37 | wethrin | Later |
| 16:09.46 | Leeds | enjoy |
| 16:10.37 | Leeds | I still get the young saver interest rate on the account, until my next birthday - 4.2% gross |
| 16:16.00 | Leeds | ah, interest is calculated daily and paid yearly |
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| 16:22.39 | Leeds | morning Catalyst |
| 16:24.13 | Catalyst | heya |
| 16:24.56 | Leeds | sleep well :-> |
| 16:24.57 | Leeds | ? |
| 16:33.04 | AngelChild | not really |
| 16:33.07 | AngelChild | got a headache too :d |
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| 17:08.49 | JAV | Sunny day, I've just washed my car. |
| 17:09.22 | JAV | when I'm drying.... plenty of clouds |
| 17:09.37 | JAV | I'll rain, for sure |
| 17:09.40 | JAV | It |
| 17:39.29 | JAV | mmm... I should make a song with this :D |
| 18:01.47 | Leeds | blues... |
| 18:02.44 | wethrin | Foo |
| 18:07.27 | Leeds | hmm... apparently it's going to be sunny here, and very wet in Colombo from Tuesday... |
| 18:14.05 | wethrin | Are you going to Colombi, then? |
| 18:19.45 | Leeds | yes |
| 18:20.21 | wethrin | Ahhh. Oops :) |
| 18:21.46 | Leeds | anyway, sleep time |
| 18:21.58 | wethrin | nn |
| 18:22.43 | Leeds | zzzz |
| 18:44.12 | JAV | nn |
| 19:54.13 | wethrin | COPE! |
| 19:54.34 | wethrin | Turns out I made a mistake. Last Night of the Proms is next Saturday, and I can't make it |
| 19:55.22 | Cope | gah |
| 19:55.57 | wethrin | Sorry |
| 19:56.44 | Cope | oh well - next year we'll be organised |
| 19:56.59 | wethrin | Yes! |
| 19:57.17 | wethrin | Well, next week I have music stuff in High Wycombe |
| 19:58.15 | wethrin | So if you want to attempt to get to High Wycombe for 3pm next Sunday, you're welcome to come to a faily short concert of wind-band stuff |
| 19:58.29 | Cope | morsing: http://www.achewood.com/index.php?date=05102005 |
| 19:59.10 | Cope | wethrin: I went to Oxfordf today |
| 20:00.41 | wethrin | Woohoo! |
| 20:00.47 | wethrin | Where did you visit? |
| 20:01.41 | Cope | wethrin: not much really; walked around north oxford, and the parks; went up the top of the sheldonian; took hui & william to see 'The Oxford Story', spent an hour in Blackwells, and had a yummy lunch. |
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| 20:01.57 | wethrin | Nice |
| 20:01.59 | Cope | was quite pleasant |
| 20:02.15 | wethrin | Indeed. I really should try and get a Bodlian Readers' Card |
| 20:02.17 | Cope | and I managed not to spend stupid amount of money in blackwells |
| 20:02.23 | wethrin | shocking! |
| 20:02.48 | Cope | I nearly did - was collecting french books |
| 20:02.52 | wethrin | Heh |
| 20:03.09 | Cope | but I decided to do some more research, and make a list of what I actually need |
| 20:03.13 | Cope | then go to foyles |
| 20:03.23 | wethrin | Also good |
| 20:03.30 | Cope | but not in oxford |
| 20:03.33 | wethrin | true |
| 20:03.45 | wethrin | But go behind Foyles, and the Pillars of Hercules is a damn fine pub |
| 20:03.54 | Cope | aha |
| 20:04.02 | Cope | a redeeming feature |
| 20:04.06 | wethrin | (at the end of the little street next to Foyles) |
| 20:04.14 | Cope | i like foyles |
| 20:04.21 | wethrin | The manager is a geek, and from what I gather is on the Classic Computers mailing list |
| 20:04.31 | Cope | ooh, excellent |
| 20:11.39 | wethrin | Yup |
| 20:30.02 | morsing | wethrin: Mark still hasn't sent me the documentationCopwCCC |
| 20:30.40 | wethrin | Oops. Keep asking him |
| 20:33.23 | morsing | Eh? What just happened? |
| 20:34.03 | Cope | hello morsing |
| 20:34.25 | morsing | Hello. Thanks for that link :-) |
| 20:34.36 | morsing | It's an early 264 btw |
| 20:35.30 | Cope | indeed! |
| 21:10.31 | morsing | G'night all. |
| 21:10.41 | wethrin | nn morsing |
| 22:26.04 | Erwin | How do I get a ticket to the arms fair? :) |
| 22:29.32 | z00dax | Erwin: blow your way in ? |
| 23:01.53 | Cope | aha |
| 23:06.14 | George | yoyo Cope |
| 23:10.56 | Cope | hello George |
| 23:11.19 | George | Cope: I broke the internet |
| 23:11.42 | Cope | oh |
| 23:11.54 | jonmasters | meow |
| 23:12.04 | wethrin | jon! |
| 23:12.14 | George | Cope: :) |
| 23:12.16 | jonmasters | Dan! |
| 23:12.22 | wethrin | Woohoo! You're alive! |
| 23:12.29 | wethrin | How's life? |
| 23:12.30 | jonmasters | Except when I'm not. |
| 23:12.33 | wethrin | Heh |
| 23:12.34 | George | Cope: actually, I broke into the internet at the residence here in Spain |
| 23:12.52 | jonmasters | Okish. Changed jobs, in Germany for a few days. Started writing a book. Busy. |
| 23:13.02 | jonmasters | Decided to move to Canada too :-) |
| 23:13.05 | George | Cope: I found an ethernet socket behind the bookcase... |
| 23:13.09 | wethrin | Where are you working now? What's the book on? And all these usual questions |
| 23:13.17 | George | Cope: and managed to guess the subnet they were operating in, and the router/dns settings :) |
| 23:13.31 | jonmasters | A large Embedded Linux vendor. Professional Linux Programming. Blah. |
| 23:14.01 | jonmasters | I've been meaning to pop up and say hello :-) |
| 23:14.03 | wethrin | Fun things :) Let me know when you're around and free for a bit |
| 23:14.09 | wethrin | Come to Durham! |
| 23:14.11 | wethrin | Yes |
| 23:14.48 | jonmasters | I'll do that eventually. Need to give a talk sometime too. Just got to juggle stuff around. Got extra lumbered with mag stuff this month so was very unavailable :-) |
| 23:15.08 | jonmasters | Are you going to the LinuxWorld? |
| 23:15.35 | Cope | George: :-) |
| 23:15.38 | wethrin | I'm not. There's freshers' fair on that day, which I need to work at |
| 23:15.43 | jonmasters | Oh ok. |
| 23:15.53 | wethrin | Hey, if you want to give a talk, I'm sure we could arrange to pay for you to come up |
| 23:16.00 | wethrin | Actually, both days |
| 23:16.22 | jonmasters | That's ok. I'd rather you spent the money on useful stuff for the University or something - I can get someone else to cover it if needed :-) |
| 23:16.28 | wethrin | Nahh |
| 23:16.38 | wethrin | It'll be the student union we claim the money back from |
| 23:17.15 | jonmasters | On that note, I've got to save up now to have funds and things sorted out for my immigration application, which won't be until next year for other reasons. |
| 23:17.52 | jonmasters | Something to do with having to have a large book written by April. |
| 23:18.37 | wethrin | Write it on the plane :) |
| 23:18.45 | wethrin | You going to go to Ottawa, then? |
| 23:19.50 | George | bedtime |
| 23:19.53 | jonmasters | Hopefully. I've been to 6 provinces now, still like Ontario and am keen on Ottawa. |
| 23:20.45 | jonmasters | Check out http://www.canadianaffair.com/ for cheap air fares too. Very cool. |
| 23:20.51 | jonmasters | Like under 200quid return. |
| 23:20.55 | jonmasters | (in summer) |
| 23:21.38 | wethrin | Nice. So we can come visit you? :) |
| 23:21.56 | jonmasters | I'd assume that would be the idea. |
| 23:22.01 | wethrin | hurrah |
| 23:22.32 | jonmasters | I'm going to save enough to last up to 6 months, go, and then see how work pans out. |
| 23:23.36 | jonmasters | I should sleep soon. |
| 23:23.53 | jonmasters | wethrin: did you know I took up climbing and stuff? |
| 23:24.03 | wethrin | No? Proper climbing, or hiking? |
| 23:24.06 | wethrin | Mm. Sleep |
| 23:24.14 | wethrin | Are you not working on JCM-time any more? :) |
| 23:24.14 | jonmasters | climbing climbing. Read blog! |
| 23:24.30 | jonmasters | I'm in Hannover. I want to do touristy stuff tomorrow :-) |
| 23:24.31 | wethrin | I don't read blogs! :) |
| 23:24.41 | Cope | sleep |
| 23:24.43 | Cope | nn chums |
| 23:24.45 | wethrin | nn Cope |
| 23:24.53 | wethrin | What was your excuse for missing the LBW this year? :) |
| 23:25.02 | jonmasters | I was at OSCON. |
| 23:25.13 | wethrin | Wasn't that later? |
| 23:25.29 | jonmasters | It was slightly earlier. I took a month off and couldn't really push it much more. |
| 23:25.36 | wethrin | Ahh right |
| 23:25.42 | wethrin | Not a good excuse :-P |
| 23:25.45 | jonmasters | Spent a month travelling across Canada and the US :-) |
| 23:25.53 | wethrin | bastard :-P |
| 23:26.37 | jonmasters | Well, it was interesting. Another friend and I took a train across from Vancouver to Toronto. Longest train journey I've been on :-) |
| 23:27.23 | jonmasters | It wasn't the most delayed though. Go figure that one. |
| 23:27.49 | wethrin | Trains suck for punctuality here |
| 23:28.11 | jonmasters | I took a journey on a German train today. It left exactly on time, like many continental trains. |
| 23:28.19 | jonmasters | (yesterday. meh) |
| 23:28.23 | jonmasters | . |
| 23:28.51 | wethrin | But it was great fun! |
| 23:28.57 | wethrin | We went up mountains and drank copious amounts |
| 23:29.03 | jonmasters | I was in Edinburgh for the G8 Rally in July. Couldn't see an easy way to get to LBW. |
| 23:30.32 | wethrin | jonmasters: Train to Glasgow, to Crianlarich, then get a lift |
| 23:30.41 | jonmasters | Bah. Pain :-) |
| 23:30.52 | Erwin | Linux Kongress was nice when I attended it a few years back |
| 23:30.55 | jonmasters | I still don't have a driving license, though have failed a couple of tests for one. |
| 23:32.16 | wethrin | pfff |
| 23:32.18 | wethrin | Oh well |
| 23:32.19 | jonmasters | Erwin: I meant Linux Kongress. I'm pre-occupied with Linux Tag for other reasons. |
| 23:32.39 | wethrin | book launch? |
| 23:32.55 | jonmasters | Nah. That'll be LinuxWorld Boston maybe. |
| 23:33.02 | wethrin | ahh |
| 23:33.23 | jonmasters | I'm going to hang around for a week then to do post-edits but we might release some sample stuff at LW prior to a summer launch. |
| 23:33.35 | wethrin | Nice. Want to donate a copy to Durham Compsoc? :) |
| 23:33.51 | jonmasters | Dunno. I reckon it's going to slip. There's three authors - myself as the principal and two others. |
| 23:34.31 | jonmasters | But the cool thing is the Wrox cover photos thing. Scary jcm photo on book cover moment! |
| 23:35.01 | wethrin | Oh dear oh dear |
| 23:35.16 | jonmasters | Yeah, Roger wasn't the only one who got to know them :-) |
| 23:35.26 | wethrin | hehe |
| 23:36.33 | jonmasters | Meh. It's 01:35. I think it's time for coffee and relaxation. Just got an Open Solaris feature finished and a bunch of other stuff - look at for Solaris on LU next month :P Funny combo, but I think it'll be fun enough. |
| 23:36.45 | wethrin | I'm not subscribed to LU |
| 23:36.45 | jonmasters | s/at/out/ |
| 23:36.46 | jonmasters | even |
| 23:37.01 | jonmasters | So go into Smiths and abuse the right to stand and browse :-) |
| 23:37.08 | wethrin | Heh. Okay :) |
| 23:37.13 | wethrin | So you're off, then? |
| 23:37.28 | jonmasters | I /can/ hang around. But I could just pop in more often rather than lurking. |
| 23:37.59 | jonmasters | I'll call you sometime when I get back. I'll try to pop in more often. |
| 23:38.02 | jonmasters | going...going... |
| 23:38.06 | jonmasters | [gone] |
| 23:38.45 | wethrin | Night! |
| 23:51.42 | rhowe | probably some of the most expensive (per drink) rounds I've ever bought |
| 23:53.33 | wethrin | heh |
| 23:53.42 | wethrin | 3000SEK for 1cl of whisky? |
| 23:54.07 | rhowe | hehrounds for 3 were about 180SEK |