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| 04:07.20 | Leeds | "you could reject using GMT and use Swatch's "Internet-Time". But people might think you're on hallucinogenic drugs, so I would shy away from it if I were you." |
| 04:21.37 | anth | did that way of measuring time ever exist outside of a press release? |
| 04:21.58 | Leeds | sure - there are all sorts of silly tools which can use it |
| 04:22.17 | Leeds | hmm... you're back in .nz? |
| 04:23.54 | anth | Yup. Are you in .hk, or is your IP just visiting? |
| 04:24.10 | Leeds | oh, I'm definitely in .hk :-) |
| 04:24.38 | Leeds | I've been back here a week after a month or so in .lk |
| 04:24.38 | anth | So what're you up to these days? |
| 04:24.44 | Leeds | making bras |
| 04:25.08 | Leeds | you? |
| 04:25.09 | anth | That wasn't what I expected |
| 04:25.37 | anth | I'm the admin for the system that tracks buses around Auckland |
| 04:25.56 | Leeds | my sister was in that part of the world a few months back... |
| 04:26.03 | Leeds | it wasn't exactly what I expected either :-) |
| 04:26.52 | Leeds | to be more precise, I'm currently testing the water as a general-purpose techie for a bra manufacturer with head office in HK and a factory in Sri Lanks |
| 04:27.47 | anth | that makes a little more sense |
| 04:27.51 | anth | how is it? |
| 04:28.04 | Leeds | um... |
| 04:28.07 | Leeds | there's good and bad |
| 04:29.09 | Leeds | I like HK a lot - good town, lively, easy to get to grips with, good shopping/eating/touristing/etc. - but it's expensive and I know effectively noone here apart from my family (it's a family firm, hence why I'm here) |
| 04:29.44 | Leeds | I quite like the setup in SL - company/family house and so on - but it's a bit of a backwater, a limbo - nothing really happens apart from work |
| 04:29.58 | anth | sorry about the sun thing (I think that was you on LWN) |
| 04:30.16 | Leeds | I'm not sure about the work - it's badly defined, on purpose, but even so I'm not sure I like it |
| 04:30.20 | Leeds | yeah, it was me... |
| 04:30.40 | Leeds | at the moment I'm trying to learn some database stuff and swearing loudly and frequently at IBM and all their works |
| 04:31.12 | Leeds | the factory in Sri Lanka is all as/400 based, which is just appalling out-of-date and unfriendly software |
| 04:31.42 | anth | We've got an ancient version of mysql so I'm trying to unlearn some database things |
| 04:33.13 | Leeds | have you ever tried to use as/400-type stuff? |
| 04:33.29 | anth | I've used as/400 (aSeries? I can never remember which is which) but never tried to do any real techie stuff with one |
| 04:34.12 | murble | I had a holiday job once writing RPG. |
| 04:34.12 | Leeds | iseries |
| 04:34.27 | Leeds | murble: suddenly your extreme lack of sanity makes sense |
| 04:35.01 | anth | I've never touched the stuff but what I've heard scares me |
| 04:35.03 | Leeds | I've almost got to the point where I'm willing to jack the whole thing in and go back to London if the job involves RPG in any significant way whatsoever |
| 04:35.49 | Leeds | on the other hand, my remit is rather wide and I've been enjoying playing with some python/xml stuff :-) |
| 04:38.10 | anth | I was once called a genius by an as400 op for pointing out that the problem with a terminal was the rather obvious network cabling issue |
| 04:42.08 | Leeds | anth: the one simple thing which made - and still makes - me shudder was seeing their LAN spec... they have a carefully-planned network of 10-IP blocks in the well-know 192.168.100.x space |
| 04:43.57 | murble | Leeds: they are overlapping or? |
| 04:44.20 | murble | I've know lots of places just to run with randomly networks not even from rfc2317 space. |
| 04:44.42 | Leeds | overlapping? |
| 04:44.58 | murble | 2 networks with the same address space. |
| 04:45.06 | Leeds | hang on! |
| 04:45.10 | murble | including LFEPA.s/2317/1918/ |
| 04:45.14 | murble | grr |
| 04:45.19 | Leeds | meant to say 192.100.100.x! |
| 04:45.35 | anth | murble: we knew what RFC you meant |
| 04:45.48 | anth | ah, now I see the problem |
| 04:45.53 | murble | Leeds: well they were nearly getting it right. |
| 04:46.14 | murble | seems they read "6" and "8" as 0 |
| 04:46.28 | Leeds | these were external people paid to come in and setup their network |
| 04:46.58 | murble | the LFEPA network was originally setup by conslutances as well. |
| 04:47.46 | anth | So Leeds: I guess your brain tried to write 100 the first time but your fingers spell checked it |
| 04:47.46 | Leeds | anyway, it upset me a little |
| 04:47.54 | Leeds | anth: guess so :-) |
| 04:48.12 | murble | Leeds: run a local nat on your laptop? |
| 04:50.13 | Leeds | my problem now is pulling my weight enough (yes, I know) to get them to fix it |
| 04:55.32 | murble | i wouldn't worry so much... |
| 04:55.32 | murble | show ip bgp 192.100.100.0 |
| 04:55.32 | anth | have you tried showing them the output of a whois on that block then warned them that there may be a war if it isn't fixed? |
| 04:55.33 | murble | % Network not in table |
| 05:11.13 | Leeds | yes, anth, I did |
| 05:11.27 | Leeds | I pointed out that the US army didn't like people taking their stuff :-) |
| 05:11.31 | Leeds | and yes, I know he's gone |
| 06:17.33 | rhowe | o.O |
| 06:17.35 | rhowe | Interesting |
| 06:17.57 | rhowe | I asked Logitech a question via their website |
| 06:18.10 | Leeds | and they replied by carrier pidgeon |
| 06:18.11 | rhowe | There was a form field for my email address, which I entered |
| 06:18.21 | Leeds | BTW, good morning :-) |
| 06:18.21 | rhowe | Their reply was addressed as so: |
| 06:18.29 | rhowe | To: rhowe@siksai.co.uk |
| 06:18.33 | rhowe | Cc: rhowe@wiss.co.uk, russell_howe@wreckage.org |
| 06:19.01 | rhowe | The two addresses in the Cc: line are also mine. The first is my old personal one, which still works, and which I collect via POP3. The wreckage.org one is my work address |
| 06:19.11 | rhowe | Thing is, I didn't tell them those addresses via the website |
| 06:19.39 | rhowe | I have been in touch with Logitech before, however, and they may have those addresses on file somewhere |
| 06:19.43 | Leeds | could you ever have told them those addresses in the past? |
| 06:19.46 | Leeds | ah :-) |
| 06:19.55 | rhowe | Still, I think it's kinda freaky :) |
| 06:20.11 | rhowe | Unfortunately, their answer was no & no |
| 06:20.27 | rhowe | I asked if they did a dvorak layout of my fancy keyboard |
| 06:20.47 | rhowe | And also if they could sell a second keyboard unit seperately, without the mouse and dock |
| 06:21.40 | Leeds | the first no sort of makes sense - the second doesn't really |
| 06:22.12 | rhowe | It should be possible to rearrange the keys on it |
| 06:22.27 | rhowe | But the butterfly clips are so delicate, I can't imagine what the success rate would be |
| 06:58.02 | murble | tipex |
| 07:12.03 | Leeds | ibot good morning |
| 07:12.03 | ibot | hmm... good morning is a contradiction in terms |
| 07:19.34 | eye69 | Morning |
| 07:19.55 | rhowe | Leeds: JO SAN AR! |
| 07:38.23 | mozrat | morning |
| 07:38.53 | rhowe | mornin' |
| 07:39.41 | mozrat | hey |
| 07:40.02 | Leeds | anyone know what rhowe is talking about? :-) |
| 07:40.22 | mozrat | I think he was greeting me in a traditional way by saying "Mornin'" |
| 07:41.06 | Leeds | before that... |
| 07:41.20 | mozrat | no idea |
| 07:45.48 | Leeds | I bought some bad headphones on Saturday, on purpose... I've got some good ones, but they're too good - they block out too much surrounding sound, so they're great, say, on a plane, but crap, say, in the office or walking around outside when you might want to hear what's going on around you |
| 07:46.07 | mozrat | bad = cheap? |
| 07:46.13 | Leeds | yes |
| 07:46.14 | Leeds | $40 |
| 07:46.27 | Leeds | ibot change 40 hkd to gbp |
| 07:46.37 | eye69 | Leeds: Get Koss Portapro. :) |
| 07:46.51 | eye69 | They're open gimbal, but pack a heck of a punch. |
| 07:47.11 | Leeds | eye69: nah, I really just want something quite for genuine background music |
| 07:47.15 | Leeds | quiet |
| 07:52.37 | mozrat | Leeds, did you see the -social pictures? |
| 07:53.51 | murble | anyone notices lot of uk banks have halved or more there daily atm withdrawl allowances? |
| 07:57.12 | Leeds | no, but I've noticed they've started charging me 1 pound every time I use my Delta card for non-GBP transactions |
| 07:59.57 | Leeds | and I didn't look at the photos yet |
| 08:01.46 | murble | that isn't nice. |
| 08:01.59 | murble | which bank is that? |
| 08:02.39 | Leeds | LloydsTSB |
| 08:03.11 | murble | I never see an extra charge from nationwide, but i suspect they factor it into the exchange rate. |
| 08:03.31 | Leeds | I can just use my MBNA/Virgin Mastercard instead and pay that off in GBP, of course... I don't really object to paying a commission on cash from an ATM, but when it's all electronic it takes the piss a bit |
| 08:04.12 | murble | some companies are apparently doing it for online transactions as well, so buy a ticket from random airline, get charged in ieuros, pay extra. |
| 08:42.23 | rhowe | Leeds: Jo san is Cantonese for "good morning" |
| 08:43.45 | rhowe | Leeds: ar is just something that you can add onto the end of most sentences (although there are seemingly arbitrary rules as to when to use ar, wor, lah, gor, wa) |
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| 09:02.30 | morsing | morning |
| 09:07.40 | rhowe | mm, company biscuit tin |
| 09:07.44 | rhowe | Just what the morning ordered |
| 09:10.26 | morsing | Mmm... BMW |
| 09:15.01 | mozrat | hello morsing |
| 09:22.18 | morsing | Hi |
| 09:48.25 | Leeds | hmm... don't know what was in the M&S salmon paste I had for lunch, but it's left me feeling good and energetic this afternoon |
| 09:50.10 | mozrat | Fishy Oils do that |
| 09:51.37 | mozrat | gah, bandwidth in Latin America SUCKS |
| 09:51.52 | mozrat | I was supposed to upgrade 3 servers before they start work and the install files are still downloading |
| 09:52.35 | mozrat | and it's now 0652 and 0552 over there on these servers :/ |
| 09:53.15 | Leeds | mozrat: bet you anything you like it's better than bandwidth in Sri Lanka... |
| 09:54.22 | mozrat | Leeds, you are probably right |
| 09:54.58 | Leeds | on the other hand, bandwidth in Hong Kong is generally rather excellent :-) |
| 10:11.48 | wethrin | Morning |
| 10:11.56 | mozrat | hello wethrin |
| 10:12.09 | mozrat | are you back 'up norf'? |
| 10:12.12 | wethrin | Yup |
| 10:12.17 | wethrin | It's too hot in the office, though |
| 10:12.18 | mozrat | My condolences |
| 10:12.27 | mozrat | :) |
| 10:12.29 | wethrin | :) |
| 10:12.32 | mozrat | how was your weekend? |
| 10:12.40 | wethrin | It was good |
| 10:12.47 | wethrin | Pity about the Friday weather, though |
| 10:13.04 | wethrin | It's a lovely pub in good weather |
| 10:13.42 | mozrat | yes, I can imagine. great views |
| 10:14.43 | mozrat | I was reading the waggledance website on the weekend, I'll keep an eye out for that |
| 10:16.07 | wethrin | Ahh. You should have drunk more of it! |
| 10:16.19 | mozrat | :) |
| 10:22.41 | mozrat | the luxury of choice - |
| 10:22.50 | mozrat | I know what I'm doing today and it sucks |
| 10:24.38 | wethrin | Eating ice cream on sticks? |
| 10:24.47 | mozrat | I wish |
| 10:29.16 | wethrin | Dealing with Winders? |
| 10:30.48 | mozrat | yes |
| 10:31.00 | mozrat | in fact worse than that |
| 10:31.05 | wethrin | Oh? |
| 10:31.07 | wethrin | OS/"? |
| 10:31.09 | wethrin | Gah |
| 10:31.11 | wethrin | OS/2? |
| 10:33.25 | Leeds | as/400 |
| 10:33.57 | wethrin | Mm. Nationwide++ |
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| 10:37.26 | mozrat | gah, everything is annoying me today |
| 10:37.28 | mozrat | bytemark sucks |
| 10:38.07 | mozrat | wethrin: whats worse (before my virtual machine froze) is that rdesktop seems to hang my whole desktop if I connect to a stupidly slow windows server |
| 10:38.26 | wethrin | Maybe it's just making it slow |
| 10:38.39 | mozrat | so not only am I working on Windows servers I doing it from a windows desktop |
| 10:39.05 | mozrat | although I am nearly done so I can reboot into something nice soon |
| 10:39.16 | mozrat | good incentive to get finished |
| 10:40.43 | morsing | Leeds: Remind me of the photo software again! |
| 10:41.36 | wethrin | Yup |
| 10:44.02 | Leeds | morsing: which photo software? |
| 10:44.09 | Leeds | oh! dalbum |
| 10:46.06 | morsing | Ahh... Thanks |
| 10:53.08 | George | morsing: blah |
| 10:53.11 | George | morsing: fridge... |
| 11:20.38 | Leeds | way past hometime... |
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| 11:54.17 | morsing | George: Will check today |
| 12:12.56 | mozrat | I just love the way windows command prompts pause the command if you accidentially go into 'select' mode by clicking the window |
| 12:13.14 | mozrat | so... just clicking the window pauses the running command.... genius! |
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| 12:29.46 | George | morsing: hrmm, ok |
| 12:30.41 | mozrat | george |
| 12:31.08 | George | hey mozzy |
| 12:31.29 | mozrat | hey |
| 12:31.39 | mozrat | which edition of Linux Magazine where you in? |
| 12:38.36 | Leeds | mozrat: so... don't suppose you've got any idea why your mate never replied to my mails? |
| 12:39.35 | Leeds | did you warn him off or something? :-) |
| 12:40.05 | George | mozrat: linux format 68 |
| 12:45.31 | mozrat | Leeds, did he not? |
| 12:45.40 | mozrat | don't take offence, he is terminally unorganised |
| 12:46.00 | Leeds | worse than me??? :-) |
| 12:46.16 | mozrat | I don't know - you should have a competition |
| 12:46.32 | Leeds | sure, but I'd arrive late... |
| 12:46.40 | mozrat | give him an email and say do you fancy a beer |
| 12:46.48 | mozrat | he was going to get in contact |
| 12:48.37 | Leeds | okay, now I've offered to buy him a beer or two - let's see him refuse that, at HK prices :-) |
| 12:49.00 | George | I never knew mozrat had a friend. |
| 12:49.13 | Leeds | George: same employer... |
| 12:49.16 | mozrat | George. ha......... ha... |
| 12:49.19 | George | :) |
| 12:49.27 | George | mozrat: I outrank you, so you can't do anything to me! :P |
| 12:49.48 | Leeds | um... how long have I been away????? what the fsck is Shaking Stevens doing on Top of the Pops? :-) |
| 12:49.50 | mozrat | Hmmm, seeing as I am a UK taxpayer and you are a lowly student maybe I outrank you? |
| 12:50.14 | George | mozrat: I'm a taxpayer too. |
| 12:52.38 | George | mozrat: but, as you're being so kind as to let me buy a thinkpad via you, I'll be kind :) |
| 12:53.05 | mozrat | oh thanks! |
| 12:53.24 | Leeds | mozrat: you're selling thinkpads *and* fridges? |
| 12:53.40 | mozrat | all I can say is if you are Sergant in the British Army now.... thank god we have a navy |
| 12:53.46 | George | :P |
| 12:53.49 | mozrat | Leeds, mo* |
| 12:53.58 | Leeds | argh :-) |
| 12:54.20 | mozrat | rhowe tried to be clever on Friday when Morsing and I met |
| 12:54.33 | mozrat | trying to call us by the wrong name.... I was onto him |
| 12:54.45 | Leeds | mozrat: you are Danish though, right? |
| 12:54.55 | George | is freedom2surf too good to be true? |
| 12:55.10 | mozrat | Leeds yes. About as Danish as you are |
| 12:55.21 | George | 27 GBP per month, static IP, no port blocking, no server restrictions, no transparent proxying, 8192/832... |
| 12:56.49 | George | oh, and configurable reverse dns. |
| 12:56.50 | morsing | mozrat: The running or just the output? |
| 12:57.30 | George | morsing: if I'm not around can you email me the details of the fridge? |
| 12:57.37 | George | morsing: where do you live, btw? |
| 12:58.06 | mozrat | morsing: I think the running |
| 12:58.14 | George | Leeds: no you don't :P |
| 12:58.17 | mozrat | morsing: Certainly with Lotus Domino server it hangs the server |
| 12:59.05 | Leeds | George: before breakfast I do |
| 12:59.31 | mozrat | Leeds: how is the diabetis going (excuse my lazy spelling) |
| 13:00.12 | Leeds | mozrat: the diabetes is fine - I've not injected in months and the sugar levels are bang-on normal... even lost some weight in Sri Lanka |
| 13:00.29 | mozrat | Leeds, good to hear |
| 13:01.26 | Leeds | maybe I should try the chinese place across the road which doesn't seem to have a menu in English |
| 13:19.44 | morsing | George: Aylesbury |
| 13:22.21 | JAV | good afternoon |
| 13:22.44 | Leeds | JAV: good evening! |
| 13:22.49 | morsing | Hi |
| 13:23.14 | JAV | good everything! :D |
| 13:23.25 | George | morsing: ah |
| 13:23.29 | George | right, lesson time. |
| 13:23.30 | George | bye. |
| 13:36.31 | morsing | Bye George |
| 14:17.56 | George | back |
| 14:18.22 | wethrin | oh dear |
| 14:18.24 | wethrin | Do some work! |
| 14:19.52 | George | no. |
| 14:19.57 | George | this maths has done my head in. |
| 14:20.41 | wethrin | Maths is easy |
| 14:20.43 | wethrin | :) |
| 14:21.09 | George | wethrin: blah. AEA maths is difficult. |
| 14:24.24 | wethrin | Not calculus |
| 14:24.29 | wethrin | And that's all you ever really need :) |
| 14:34.38 | George | blah |
| 14:34.43 | George | it's not all calculus |
| 14:34.47 | George | calculus is easy anyway |
| 14:35.05 | wethrin | some of it :) |
| 14:35.13 | George | :P |
| 14:35.16 | wethrin | And non-calculus is barely worth bothering about |
| 14:41.04 | George | blah. |
| 14:41.13 | George | so you're good at maths? |
| 14:42.48 | wethrin | Eh. I'm doing engineering now, because the maths I had to do in a Physics degree confused me |
| 14:43.10 | George | second degree? |
| 14:47.06 | wethrin | Third now |
| 14:52.34 | George | third? |
| 14:52.35 | George | wtf? |
| 14:52.39 | George | how many degrees do you have? |
| 14:52.44 | George | or rather |
| 14:52.47 | George | what degrees do you have |
| 14:53.25 | wethrin | BA, MSc (so far) |
| 14:53.34 | George | ye gods. |
| 14:53.37 | wethrin | Soon I should be getting an MA from Oxford, and then PhD from Durham |
| 14:53.38 | George | and now you're doing..? |
| 14:53.55 | wethrin | Now I'm doing PhD |
| 14:54.07 | wethrin | Heh. I have LPI cert too, but that doesn't really count |
| 14:54.08 | wethrin | It's too easy |
| 14:58.19 | George | yeah |
| 14:58.20 | George | hah |
| 15:00.58 | wethrin | ;-) |
| 15:01.05 | wethrin | Well, at least Level 1 is easy |
| 15:01.23 | wethrin | I figured for £20 it's not bad |
| 15:01.36 | wethrin | I won't be around the Linux Expo this year anyway. So no chance of doing Level 2 |
| 15:02.10 | George | bah |
| 15:02.14 | George | I can't abuse you |
| 15:02.20 | George | Leeds: perv |
| 15:02.52 | Leeds | George: I prefer "professional" |
| 15:04.35 | George | heh |
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| 15:05.24 | wethrin | Cope! |
| 15:05.38 | wethrin | Eh. Linux Expo sucks |
| 15:05.45 | George | I always thought computer science at a decent level was heavily mathematical. |
| 15:06.28 | Leeds | George: not necessarily |
| 15:06.37 | wethrin | Yeah, but maybe they teach you the maths at Uni |
| 15:07.12 | George | wethrin: good luck teaching a bunch of people with only a C in GCSE maths some real maths :) |
| 15:07.49 | Leeds | wethrin: there was more maths (stats, of course) on my 1st year economics course than in the 3 years of comp sci combined |
| 15:08.04 | Cope | hello wethrin |
| 15:08.31 | George | bah. stats |
| 15:08.34 | George | stats sucks. |
| 15:08.38 | George | it's so bloody boring |
| 15:08.54 | Leeds | at least it's real-life stats - as real-life as economics is, anyway |
| 15:09.50 | George | should I do maths at uni? :) |
| 15:09.54 | wethrin | Cope: We missed you on Friday! |
| 15:10.05 | wethrin | If you're good at it, sure |
| 15:10.15 | Cope | George: yes! |
| 15:10.18 | wethrin | CompSci isn't particularly useful in getting a job programming |
| 15:10.21 | George | Cope: why? |
| 15:10.29 | Leeds | wethrin: not sure I'd agree |
| 15:10.33 | George | maths is bloody hard to get into at Cambridge though |
| 15:10.43 | wethrin | Don't go to Cam, then |
| 15:10.59 | George | I want to go to cam. |
| 15:11.06 | wethrin | Leeds: Well, more to the point, it shouldn't be approached as a degree that teaches you how to program in $lang |
| 15:11.10 | wethrin | But Cambridge sucks |
| 15:11.17 | Leeds | wethrin: oh, certainly |
| 15:11.19 | George | wethrin: you bloody oxonian. |
| 15:11.41 | wethrin | We won University Challenge |
| 15:11.44 | Cope | :-) |
| 15:11.57 | George | yeah, but you also suck |
| 15:12.00 | George | oxford sucks |
| 15:12.01 | George | :P |
| 15:12.40 | Cope | George: because maths is cool. |
| 15:12.54 | George | Cope: yeah... |
| 15:12.55 | wethrin | Cope: Oxford or Cambridge? :) |
| 15:12.59 | George | Cope: did you do maths? |
| 15:13.06 | mozrat | wethrin: you were on university challenge??? |
| 15:13.10 | wethrin | mozrat: Nope |
| 15:13.14 | Cope | wethrin: for Maths? |
| 15:13.19 | mozrat | shame :) |
| 15:13.21 | wethrin | But the team captain was a friend when I was at Corpus |
| 15:13.27 | wethrin | Cope: No, just as a University |
| 15:13.28 | mozrat | i see |
| 15:13.28 | wethrin | Heh |
| 15:13.30 | Cope | wethrin: I'd say Cambridge for Maths |
| 15:13.34 | George | wethrin: I'm sorry, but Cambridge has more letters in "Oxbridge" than Oxford does. Ergo, Cambridge wins. |
| 15:13.40 | Cope | wethrin: Oxford, of course!! |
| 15:13.51 | wethrin | Oxford is in front of Cambridge. Hence better |
| 15:13.59 | wethrin | having more letters is just the booby prize |
| 15:14.08 | wethrin | See. Cope agrees that Oxford is better! :) |
| 15:14.08 | George | only because of the chronology, clearly. |
| 15:14.12 | George | Cambridge is Oxford Done Right |
| 15:14.15 | mozrat | George: 'wethrin' has more characters than 'George'... what was your point again??? |
| 15:14.31 | wethrin | Yes, but I'm clearly superior to George |
| 15:14.32 | Leeds | and may I propose a moment of silence for Sir Whitely? |
| 15:14.39 | wethrin | He wasn't at the pub, for a start |
| 15:14.43 | George | mozrat: George Wright has more letters than Dan Kolb. |
| 15:15.05 | Leeds | mozrat: Dan is alive :-) |
| 15:15.13 | wethrin | Nah. Cambridge is a poor imitation |
| 15:15.20 | George | Oxford is a dump. |
| 15:15.32 | wethrin | It's not. Cambridge is all flat and boring |
| 15:15.35 | mozrat | Leeds, what does he say? |
| 15:15.43 | wethrin | And too close to Norfolk |
| 15:15.48 | George | and Oxford is all loud and disturbing |
| 15:15.51 | mozrat | Leeds, did you hear from him just now?? |
| 15:16.09 | George | right, well, I'm going to sleep |
| 15:16.13 | Leeds | mozrat: yeah, just now - said we should meet up at the weekend |
| 15:16.24 | George | I have a piss easy maths exam tomorrow, then a bloody impossible one on Friday. |
| 15:16.27 | George | bye. |
| 15:16.53 | mozrat | ttfn Sgt George |
| 15:17.24 | Leeds | g'night George |
| 15:17.40 | Leeds | hang on... it's only 2315 in Hong Kong - why is he going to bed??? |
| 15:17.47 | morsing | coffee |
| 15:19.38 | wethrin | Free 1st class coffee! |
| 15:24.05 | mozrat | I have coffee also |
| 15:24.34 | wethrin | Hm |
| 15:53.26 | gregj | http://uncyclopedia.org/wiki/Poland#Vatican |
| 15:54.18 | Cope | I have tea |
| 15:54.36 | wethrin | I don't |
| 15:54.40 | wethrin | Not here. At home I do |
| 15:55.42 | Leeds | I have neither |
| 15:55.51 | wethrin | You have bras, though |
| 15:56.00 | Leeds | not at home :-) |
| 15:56.21 | wethrin | You could buy some |
| 15:56.39 | Leeds | I could, but that would be silly |
| 15:57.07 | wethrin | It would |
| 16:04.12 | morsing | Mmm..,. Silly |
| 16:05.58 | Leeds | "Temperatures in Hong Kong range from -499.95 to -1499.85 (Celcius)." - methinks a bug |
| 16:06.30 | wethrin | Yes |
| 16:06.44 | Leeds | I don't think the temperatures often fall *that* far below absolute zero |
| 16:07.00 | wethrin | It is Hong Kong, though |
| 16:07.16 | Leeds | true... they do take everything to extremes |
| 16:10.14 | mozrat | http://bau2.uibk.ac.at/sg/python/Scripts/MeaningOfLife/m-11-vi.html |
| 16:10.26 | mozrat | the other kind of python script |
| 16:10.41 | mozrat | " Oh, shit! It's Mr. Creosote." |
| 16:10.48 | wethrin | Bucket |
| 16:10.57 | mozrat | " And finally, monsieur, a wafer-thin mint." |
| 16:11.24 | wethrin | No. I'm stuffed |
| 16:11.44 | mozrat | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:13.50 | wethrin | :) |
| 16:14.44 | highbury | Leeds: temperature can't fall below absolute zero at all! |
| 16:15.07 | wethrin | Hong Kong ones can |
| 16:15.35 | Leeds | they play by different rules around here - it's not a colony any more! |
| 16:16.59 | wethrin | "Lisa! In this house we obey the laws of Thermodynamics!" |
| 16:17.07 | Leeds | :-) |
| 17:08.30 | George | Leeds: because... I sleep all the time. |
| 17:08.42 | wethrin | lazy |
| 17:09.23 | Cope | sleep is good |
| 17:10.08 | wethrin | It is |
| 17:10.12 | wethrin | So are serial cables :) |
| 17:11.21 | Cope | The ability to be in two different places simultaneously would be hand too. |
| 17:11.26 | wethrin | true |
| 17:13.18 | Cope | I'm at home, and the stuff is at work, I've not been to work, and won't be there prolly till friday |
| 17:14.08 | wethrin | Ah. Enjoying time off work, then? |
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| 17:46.34 | eye69 | Evening. |
| 17:47.40 | Cope | hello rhowe |
| 17:48.22 | wethrin | hi eye69 |
| 18:15.00 | Blapto | eye ey |
| 18:18.46 | George | flooble |
| 18:18.51 | George | C4 maths tomorrow. Woopee. |
| 18:18.57 | Blapto | That's late? |
| 18:19.06 | George | Blapto: ? |
| 18:19.07 | Blapto | Mine was on the 16th |
| 18:19.17 | George | Blapto: well, it's edexcel. Then I have AEA on Friday. |
| 18:19.20 | George | brb - call-over |
| 18:19.53 | Blapto | Ah, I remember a friend talking about her edexcel maths using boyfriend and not seeing him ever. |
| 18:20.26 | Blapto | BBL |
| 18:29.00 | George | blah |
| 19:07.48 | Cope | mmm maths |
| 19:08.28 | morsing_ | Yikes |
| 19:13.58 | murble | what is edexcel? |
| 19:20.21 | George | hey morsing_ |
| 19:20.23 | George | FRIDGE |
| 19:26.14 | George | murble: it's an exam board |
| 19:56.20 | mozrat | any gllug wiki admins here? |
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| 20:16.14 | mozrat | George: locked in his fridge most probably |
| 20:16.36 | George | haha |
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| 20:18.37 | George | Cat[A]lyst: you suck you crappy homogeneous catalyst |
| 20:18.39 | George | :) |
| 20:19.38 | Catalyst | yes, apparently i do |
| 20:28.41 | George | :P |
| 20:41.43 | morsing_ | George: Iceline |
| 20:41.49 | George | morsing_: size? |
| 20:41.57 | morsing_ | George: Don't know |
| 20:42.11 | George | morsing_: roughly? |
| 20:42.15 | George | morsing_: 1/2m tall? |
| 20:43.41 | morsing_ | George: It's a standard half height fridge |
| 20:43.52 | morsing_ | Definately more than 1/2 meter |
| 20:44.04 | George | morsing_: funky. does it have a freezer compartment? |
| 20:44.10 | morsing_ | George: Yes |
| 20:44.26 | George | do you know the model number? |
| 20:44.55 | mozrat | George: just buy the fucking fridge and stop being anal |
| 20:45.25 | George | mozrat: I can't take a full size fridge into school! |
| 20:45.34 | mozrat | gah |
| 20:46.12 | George | what? |
| 20:46.21 | George | it's not my fault I'm at school :( |
| 20:46.52 | mozrat | drink warm milk then |
| 20:46.57 | George | heh |
| 20:47.06 | George | morsing_: I'll probably buy it |
| 20:47.23 | morsing_ | George: Don't know the model number |
| 20:47.32 | morsing_ | IT'S A STANDARD SIZE FRIDGE |
| 20:47.45 | George | heh |
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| 20:48.15 | mozrat | George, it's a fridge not the tardis |
| 20:48.28 | George | blah. |
| 20:51.27 | George | morsing_: when do you want to sell it? :) |
| 20:52.45 | morsing_ | George: When you want. Just warn me in advance. |
| 20:53.00 | George | morsing_: this weekend? |
| 20:53.06 | morsing_ | George: How far are you from here? How are you going to take it with you? |
| 20:53.17 | morsing_ | George: Maybe Sunday? |
| 20:53.20 | George | morsing_: car. I live in North London. |
| 20:53.36 | George | morsing_: it depends upon whether my father is prepared to drive me up on that day :) |
| 20:53.39 | morsing_ | Ok. And you're SURE the size is right ? :-) |
| 20:53.50 | George | will it fit in a car? |
| 20:54.13 | mozrat | ohmygod |
| 20:54.17 | George | oh, and it /does/ work doesn't it? :) |
| 20:54.23 | mozrat | WHAT SIZE CAR GEORGE? |
| 20:54.31 | mozrat | No it won't fit in a audi TT |
| 20:54.33 | George | hrmm. largish volvo salloon |
| 20:54.36 | morsing_ | George: It would probably fit in either of my cars with the boot lid slightly open |
| 20:54.42 | mozrat | yes it will fit in a largish volvo salloon |
| 20:54.47 | morsing_ | I can't guarantie yuor car |
| 20:55.07 | morsing_ | s/i/e/ |
| 20:55.14 | morsing_ | s/your/your |
| 20:55.18 | morsing_ | Arghhh |
| 20:55.31 | mozrat | s/car/largish volvo salloon/ |
| 20:55.34 | George | hrmm. |
| 20:56.12 | morsing_ | George: It works NOW. Move it by car to London and I promise NOTHING |
| 20:56.43 | George | hehe |
| 20:57.08 | mozrat | George, is morsing suggesting you buy it but keep it in his place? |
| 20:57.18 | George | morsing_: well, if it's not too much trouble if you could get me some vague measurements (if it doesn't put you out), that'd be great. |
| 20:57.20 | mozrat | thats a long way to go when you need a cup of tea |
| 20:57.32 | George | mozrat: hehe |
| 20:57.41 | George | it's also a long way to go to find out it doesn't fit in the car. |
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| 20:58.03 | Marios_ | hello ! |
| 20:58.06 | mozrat | george, a half height fridge would fit |
| 20:58.09 | mozrat | MARIOS!!!!!!! |
| 20:58.16 | Marios_ | what's up guys ? |
| 20:58.22 | George | hey Marios_ |
| 20:58.27 | mozrat | not much - how are you??!?? |
| 20:58.29 | Marios_ | long time no see |
| 20:58.32 | mozrat | yeah |
| 20:58.36 | George | mozrat: I could probably stick it in the back seats |
| 20:58.42 | Marios_ | busy at work so much time for IRC |
| 20:58.44 | George | mozrat: I'm assuming it's about 75cm tall |
| 20:58.57 | mozrat | George: yes, thats what I'm thinking in which case morsing_ needs to defrost first |
| 20:59.18 | George | ? |
| 20:59.39 | Marios_ | guys do you know any company to rent a cheap server...colocation |
| 20:59.47 | Marios_ | but cheap one...I just need it for testing |
| 20:59.59 | George | Marios_: Leeds has a server in a colo |
| 21:00.15 | Marios_ | hmm |
| 21:00.20 | Marios_ | I wonder where Leeds is |
| 21:00.28 | George | Hong Kong :P |
| 21:00.29 | Marios_ | is he still in Hong Kong ? |
| 21:00.43 | mozrat | yes |
| 21:00.49 | Marios_ | I haven't talked to him for ages |
| 21:00.59 | mozrat | Marios_: you could try bytemark, |
| 21:01.03 | Marios_ | hmm |
| 21:01.04 | George | morsing_: http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=20713&item=7525913140&rd=1&ssPageName=WDVW |
| 21:01.07 | mozrat | they suck, but I'm happy with them |
| 21:01.07 | George | morsing_: is it like that? |
| 21:01.08 | Marios_ | I will take a look |
| 21:02.35 | Marios_ | so what's new ? |
| 21:03.54 | mozrat | Python Study Group has risen from the ashes.. you should join |
| 21:04.08 | Marios_ | yes why not |
| 21:04.23 | Marios_ | send me details |
| 21:04.43 | mozrat | http://lists.gllug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/studygroup-python |
| 21:04.43 | mozrat | and |
| 21:05.12 | mozrat | http://wiki.gllug.org.uk/cgi-bin/moin.cgi/PythonStudyGroup |
| 21:05.17 | mozrat | and |
| 21:05.18 | mozrat | thats it |
| 21:05.24 | Marios_ | hmm good |
| 21:05.30 | Marios_ | how is work mozrat ? |
| 21:05.36 | mozrat | work god |
| 21:05.38 | mozrat | good |
| 21:06.11 | Marios_ | good to hear |
| 21:06.26 | George | hrmm. should I do work for this exam tomorrow. |
| 21:07.04 | mozrat | how is your job Marios_ ? |
| 21:07.27 | Marios_ | very good |
| 21:07.29 | Marios_ | lots of work |
| 21:07.40 | Marios_ | it is not Linux but can't help it |
| 21:08.00 | mozrat | Good to be working though |
| 21:08.08 | Marios_ | true |
| 21:08.22 | Marios_ | no I might start looking for a part time thing as well... |
| 21:08.53 | gregj | is it ok to say in English 'something - very expierenced', in CV ? |
| 21:09.07 | gregj | (not mine, but it sounds suspicious to me) |
| 21:09.12 | George | yes, but make sure you spell experienced properly |
| 21:09.22 | George | or highly experienced may be better |
| 21:10.02 | George | http://www.gwright.org.uk/index.php?page=cv <-- that's my CV |
| 21:12.50 | gregj | George: Religious Studies: B |
| 21:12.55 | gregj | George: bad boy |
| 21:12.55 | gregj | ;p |
| 21:13.02 | George | so? |
| 21:13.16 | George | I'm a bloody atheist and I think it's a retarded subject :P |
| 21:13.54 | gregj | man, don't take everything so serious |
| 21:14.00 | George | :) |
| 21:14.03 | gregj | I like to have a piss from time to time |
| 21:14.09 | gregj | s/have/take/ |
| 21:17.51 | Marios_ | anywayz... |
| 21:17.57 | Marios_ | gotta go guys |
| 21:27.38 | morsing_ | George: Yes |
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