| 00:05.07 | rhowe | 'night |
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| 06:56.22 | eye69 | Morning. |
| 06:56.43 | Leeds | afternoon |
| 06:58.30 | gregj | evening |
| 06:58.31 | gregj | :D |
| 06:59.08 | gregj | it's neary midnight here |
| 07:00.18 | Leeds | 3pm here |
| 07:00.20 | eye69 | .ca? |
| 07:00.35 | eye69 | 9am here. |
| 07:00.53 | gregj | eye69: yep |
| 07:01.29 | Leeds | well, aren't we global this morning|afternoon|evening|day|week :-) |
| 07:01.38 | Leeds | anyone here in London? |
| 07:01.57 | eye69 | None alive as it seems. |
| 07:02.13 | Leeds | guess not |
| 07:02.32 | eye69 | I guess I should mooch off to the office. |
| 07:21.55 | mozrat | Good morning |
| 07:22.32 | Leeds | not Poland? |
| 07:22.43 | mozrat | Na |
| 07:22.47 | Leeds | why not? |
| 07:22.59 | mozrat | ?? |
| 07:23.03 | mozrat | I live in London! |
| 07:23.08 | Leeds | really? |
| 07:23.12 | mozrat | I went to Poland twice for some work! |
| 07:23.14 | mozrat | apparently so |
| 07:23.53 | Leeds | ~kuote |
| 07:24.00 | Leeds | hmm.... |
| 07:24.16 | mozrat | thinking of someone else, Leeds? :) |
| 07:24.23 | Leeds | nope |
| 07:24.34 | mozrat | playing with me, Leeds? :) |
| 07:24.41 | Leeds | yup :-) |
| 07:24.47 | mozrat | ahhh |
| 07:24.49 | mozrat | too early |
| 07:25.04 | Leeds | almost half past 3pm here! |
| 07:25.34 | Leeds | and I've almost finished downloading db2 |
| 07:25.47 | mozrat | never played with db2 |
| 07:26.22 | Leeds | I'm treating it as a black-box SQL server |
| 07:26.41 | Leeds | ~kill all humans |
| 07:26.41 | ibot | ACTION shoots a ionized neutrino gun at all humans |
| 07:28.47 | Leeds | okay, now I'm slightly worried... |
| 07:29.12 | Leeds | I could have sworn I didn't ask for the x86-64 version of db2... won't run very well on a PII |
| 07:29.53 | mozrat | d'oh |
| 07:30.17 | Leeds | I'm just trying an experiment before confirming I did that |
| 07:31.09 | Leeds | it's supplied as a tarball - I can't believe even IBM would ship uncompressed distribution media nowadays |
| 07:32.23 | Leeds | okay, a lot of the contents are rpm or jar files; I suppose that's okay |
| 07:36.06 | Leeds | "An attempt to install DB2 for Linux on AMD64 has failed. DB2 installation detected that the system is running Linux 32-bit. Obtain DB2 for Linux 32-bit and attempt the installation again." |
| 07:38.05 | mozrat | :/ |
| 07:40.03 | Leeds | ah well... |
| 07:44.15 | Leeds | hmm... there |
| 07:44.39 | Leeds | there's an apparently-unused DEC Alphaserver sitting in the server 'rack' here... |
| 07:45.55 | Leeds | that, and the fact that Sun is hiring people in the UK to work on Xen on Solaris... |
| 07:48.21 | murble | Leeds: or Solaris on Xen.. |
| 07:48.43 | Leeds | murble: nope |
| 07:50.33 | murble | would that be rather silly? |
| 07:56.34 | Leeds | well, I have the job descriptions in front of me... and they are for Solaris, not Linux |
| 08:00.01 | murble | why would they be for linux? |
| 08:00.42 | Leeds | ah, yes, see what you mean... |
| 08:01.31 | Leeds | anyway, the point is that 2 months after laying us off, they're effectively hiring replacements |
| 08:02.55 | murble | I thought they were supposed to wait longer than that? |
| 08:03.35 | Leeds | they have all but admitted it, by saying they'll waive the usual "return the redundancy pay" rules for people who are rehired quickly |
| 08:06.29 | murble | are they talking about Xen on Sparc? |
| 08:06.57 | Leeds | not explicitly, but knowledge of AMD64/x86/SPARC is listed as a requirement |
| 08:28.52 | Leeds | fucking rpm |
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| 09:18.02 | Leeds | zzzz |
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| 11:04.24 | mozrat | Hmmm, strange... http://mz2.isagaylord.com/ |
| 11:04.25 | mozrat | :) |
| 11:08.45 | mz2 | lol! |
| 11:08.55 | eye69 | highbury: Nice. |
| 11:15.02 | murble | replacement? |
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| 11:27.54 | wethrin | Leeds! |
| 11:28.15 | Leeds | yes |
| 11:31.45 | highbury | complete retail box, not just the faulty part :-) |
| 11:41.38 | highbury | Jun 23 10:56:59 islington kernel: SCSI error : <0 0 1 0> return code = 0x8000002 |
| 11:41.38 | highbury | Jun 23 10:56:59 islington kernel: sdb: Current: sense key: Hardware Error |
| 11:41.38 | highbury | Jun 23 10:56:59 islington kernel: Additional sense: Track following error |
| 11:41.38 | highbury | Jun 23 10:56:59 islington kernel: Info fld=0x1180846 |
| 11:41.38 | highbury | Jun 23 10:56:59 islington kernel: end_request: I/O error, dev sdb, sector 18352198 |
| 11:41.39 | highbury | Jun 23 10:56:59 islington kernel: Buffer I/O error on device sdb7, logical block 753785 |
| 11:41.41 | highbury | Jun 23 10:56:59 islington kernel: lost page write due to I/O error on sdb7 |
| 11:42.02 | highbury | dang! hard disk dying methinks! |
| 11:42.18 | wethrin | yup |
| 11:47.32 | murble | what does smart thing? |
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| 13:17.27 | edward | anybody going to lugradio live? |
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| 13:57.16 | cup | afternoon |
| 14:17.03 | mozrat | afternoon cup |
| 14:17.14 | mozrat | hello Catalyst edward |
| 14:24.07 | edward | Catalyst edward? |
| 14:27.44 | mozrat | Hello Catalyst and edward |
| 14:31.35 | mozrat | edward, are you going to Wolverhampton? |
| 14:33.44 | mozrat | ask openoffice.org to open 3 spreadsheets..... |
| 14:33.50 | mozrat | bye bye openoffice |
| 14:33.55 | mozrat | where openoffice? |
| 14:33.58 | mozrat | openoffice gone! |
| 14:34.01 | mozrat | grrrrr |
| 14:34.45 | Catalyst | 'sup |
| 14:35.12 | mozrat | alright Angelchild? |
| 14:42.56 | edward | mozrat: yes, i just booked a hotel |
| 14:43.07 | edward | are you going? |
| 14:43.12 | mozrat | edward: Cool, I'm not going but it sounds like fun |
| 14:43.15 | wethrin | Is that lugradio event? |
| 14:43.20 | edward | yes |
| 14:43.22 | mozrat | edward: bit short on time at the moment :( |
| 14:43.45 | wethrin | Ah. What's the event, anywya? |
| 14:44.01 | mozrat | wethrin: Expo type thing with quite a few decent speakers there |
| 14:44.21 | wethrin | oh right |
| 14:44.22 | mozrat | to be honest it might be as big as the London expo this year for speakers |
| 14:44.25 | wethrin | what brand? :) |
| 14:44.29 | mozrat | not for stands |
| 14:44.39 | mozrat | Marshall :) |
| 14:44.43 | wethrin | :) |
| 15:02.09 | wethrin | What time is it for you? |
| 15:13.20 | Leeds | 2313 |
| 15:13.29 | wethrin | Oh, not that late, then |
| 15:14.21 | Leeds | not that early for shopping... |
| 15:14.35 | wethrin | Didn't you use to go around midnight to Tesco? |
| 15:15.54 | Leeds | that's different - this was 'city center' type shopping, not suburban supermarket |
| 15:16.05 | wethrin | mm |
| 15:17.21 | Leeds | in fact, it was Ikea and a local Dixons-type thing, except many times more clueful |
| 15:17.42 | wethrin | It's hard to be less clueful |
| 15:17.49 | Leeds | very true |
| 15:18.12 | wethrin | What did you spend money on this time? |
| 15:18.52 | Leeds | bathroom scales and 3-way plug strip at Ikea, (cheap) iPod speakers and batteries at Broadway |
| 15:19.00 | wethrin | *nod* |
| 15:19.21 | wethrin | So useful things, then :) |
| 15:19.26 | Leeds | not normally the sort of things I'd expect to shop for at 2230 in central London on a Thursday :-) |
| 15:19.48 | wethrin | True |
| 15:21.27 | Leeds | plus, made up my daily walking |
| 15:22.17 | wethrin | Which is good |
| 15:22.38 | Leeds | right :-) |
| 15:24.06 | rhowe | Leeds: Told you HK rocked :) |
| 15:24.16 | Leeds | rhowe: yeah, it sort of does... |
| 15:24.29 | rhowe | Leeds: London just doesn't know how to be a city |
| 15:24.33 | Leeds | although there is a lack of actually talking to anyone |
| 15:24.49 | rhowe | heh, find the HKLUG? :) |
| 15:25.20 | Leeds | they had a day-long meet last week :-( I was in Sri Lanka... |
| 15:27.59 | Leeds | bit wet though - for the next few months, apparently |
| 15:30.11 | rhowe | Weather's gonna turn nasty over here, it seems |
| 15:30.15 | rhowe | Starting tomorrow |
| 15:31.11 | Leeds | there was a red lightning warning in force at the airport when I arrived on Tuesday - they were advising people not to gou |
| 15:31.14 | Leeds | go outside |
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| 15:34.11 | rhowe | But getting in a plane was fine? |
| 15:36.40 | itsbruce | Planes don't have any problem with lightning |
| 15:37.26 | itsbruce | Lightning just travels round the surface and then carries on in the direction it was going |
| 15:38.31 | rhowe | Faraday cage and all that? |
| 15:41.35 | Leeds | can screw up some of the instruments, apparently |
| 15:45.22 | itsbruce | But passenger jets are regularly hit by lightning in flight. Isn't normally an issue. |
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| 16:00.22 | Leeds | ah, Henman's gone, it's midnight and it's pissing it down outside... |
| 16:04.16 | wethrin | Time to relax with Family guy |
| 16:04.35 | Leeds | not quite... the download is slow |
| 16:06.51 | Leeds | anyway, it is bedtime |
| 16:06.57 | wethrin | nn! |
| 16:16.25 | laomao | hello |
| 16:17.36 | gregj | hi Cope |
| 16:17.54 | wethrin | hi laomao |
| 16:17.56 | laomao | Not cope, laomao. |
| 16:18.06 | laomao | hello, wethrin. |
| 16:18.15 | laomao | Are you still meeting cope tomorrow? |
| 16:18.34 | gregj | so hi laomao |
| 16:18.36 | wethrin | I plan to. |
| 16:18.43 | wethrin | He should have a serial cable for me :) |
| 16:19.26 | laomao | I hope he will remember. I will remind him if I could |
| 16:19.49 | wethrin | It's at the Founders Arms, which is opposite Blackfriars station (on the bank of the river, to the left of the bridge) |
| 16:19.52 | wethrin | Thanks :) |
| 16:20.10 | laomao | Hello, gregj. Still in Canada? better than London. Unbelievable warm |
| 16:20.18 | wethrin | I'll call / text him when I'm on the train if I don't catch him online tomorrow |
| 16:20.59 | laomao | Cope hasn't been online this week. And he left his mobile at home for two days |
| 16:21.06 | wethrin | Oops! |
| 16:21.17 | wethrin | Make sure he takes it tomorrow, then :) |
| 16:21.17 | laomao | You better e-mail him or I will e-mail him |
| 16:21.25 | wethrin | I don't know his current email address |
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| 16:21.35 | laomao | sanelson@gmail.com |
| 16:21.41 | wethrin | Aha. Thanks! |
| 16:22.41 | laomao | yes, the best way is to e-mail him or nobody knows his whereabouts |
| 16:22.47 | wethrin | Right. Sent. |
| 16:24.25 | laomao | Cope has a lot of stuff on his mind. So if he doesn't show up, don't blame him. |
| 16:26.56 | wethrin | Fair enough. How did his job re-application go? |
| 16:28.54 | laomao | I don't really know. He is a mystery man recently. You probably know better than me |
| 16:29.10 | wethrin | I don't - he's not been around for the last few days here |
| 16:29.37 | laomao | He has been on all week drinking session |
| 16:29.47 | wethrin | ahh |
| 16:30.42 | laomao | Never mind. I will remind him to give you the cable |
| 16:30.52 | gregj | laomao: vancouver is actually very nice place |
| 16:30.53 | wethrin | Excellent, thanks! |
| 16:31.06 | gregj | much more space than in london, and close to mountains, sea |
| 16:31.10 | gregj | everything I need |
| 16:31.15 | laomao | I bet it is cooler there and much bigger |
| 16:31.18 | gregj | but, well, London is my second home |
| 16:31.23 | gregj | it is bit cooler, but not much |
| 16:31.24 | wethrin | So not planning on coming back, then? |
| 16:31.29 | gregj | I do |
| 16:31.37 | wethrin | Oh good :) |
| 16:31.37 | gregj | I'm going to be in London 6-7-8 |
| 16:31.42 | wethrin | of? |
| 16:31.45 | laomao | Me too. Maybe I should go to Canada for a change |
| 16:31.49 | gregj | so we can go for pint if you like |
| 16:31.52 | gregj | next month |
| 16:32.02 | wethrin | Hm. Can't do that. Not around then |
| 16:32.07 | wethrin | Sorry |
| 16:32.09 | gregj | (sorry, I am always confused by names of months beggining with J) |
| 16:32.17 | wethrin | And then back to Krakow? |
| 16:32.43 | gregj | yep |
| 16:32.54 | wethrin | for how long? |
| 16:32.59 | gregj | but I'll probably pop to london for a week or less by the end of month |
| 16:33.05 | wethrin | Hm. Come up to LBW! |
| 16:33.10 | gregj | with my little (or not so little 8yrs) brother |
| 16:33.11 | gregj | LBW |
| 16:33.16 | gregj | where the hell is that :> |
| 16:33.18 | wethrin | I'll be around home the first week of August |
| 16:33.20 | wethrin | Scotland |
| 16:33.46 | gregj | oh |
| 16:33.53 | gregj | why did you moved ? |
| 16:34.02 | wethrin | I'm at Uni in Durham |
| 16:34.19 | gregj | oh |
| 16:34.38 | gregj | what's wrong with uni in London :-0 |
| 16:34.48 | wethrin | Durham accepted me. And it's a nice place |
| 16:40.21 | gregj | http://www.securityfocus.com/archive/1/403159 |
| 17:05.44 | gregj | are there many poles too in Durham now ? |
| 17:05.49 | wethrin | Nope |
| 17:07.23 | gregj | cool, cos I heard that in London in Edinburgh you can talk in Polish and chances are many ppl will understeand you |
| 17:09.05 | gregj | s/n in E/n and E/ |
| 17:13.20 | wethrin | Heh. Probably :) |
| 17:14.03 | gregj | that's not good, cos many of these ppl had no chances to get good jobs in PL, and without English they trying in UK |
| 17:14.13 | gregj | brits probably already hate us |
| 17:14.14 | gregj | :-) |
| 17:15.26 | wethrin | Heh |
| 18:03.36 | murble | gregj: nah we like cheap labour! |
| 18:03.45 | gregj | fook off ;p |
| 18:03.50 | murble | well some plumbers and builders probably don't :-) |
| 18:05.07 | gregj | anyways, it's miserable, I don't understeand these folks |
| 18:05.54 | murble | which ones? |
| 18:05.59 | gregj | life in UK is bit more expensive than in PL, you have to make proper money to live there, in order to stay, pay your mortage,etc |
| 18:06.06 | murble | gregj: arround here you don't want to mutter anything rude in Russian... |
| 18:06.15 | gregj | poles comming to UK massivly, no english, no proper educations |
| 18:06.17 | gregj | education |
| 18:06.29 | murble | There is only one person from polen in my deutsch kurs, and 3 native russian speakers. |
| 18:06.49 | gregj | well, these folks are Polish, but you confusing them with poles |
| 18:07.00 | murble | 1 one afgan who is speaking russian as well. |
| 18:07.29 | gregj | any brit I'll ask (excluding wethrin) what lang do I speak, and present him with some frazes in Polish will answer that it is russian |
| 18:07.55 | gregj | same here in Canada, they refer to Folks from central and east europe as 'russians' |
| 18:08.01 | morsing_ | Hi |
| 18:08.50 | gregj | y0 morsing_ |
| 18:08.51 | murble | gregj: given they are from Kazakhstan i think they are probably speaking russian. |
| 18:09.13 | gregj | sure, you know them personaly, so you must be right |
| 18:09.20 | gregj | but I am speaking in general |
| 18:11.09 | murble | and there have been more Polish in the uk than russians for a very long time. |
| 18:11.18 | murble | so i don't know why people would assume Russian when given a choice. |
| 18:12.10 | gregj | neither do I |
| 18:12.30 | murble | possibly more Russians than Polish in Wiesbaden though. |
| 18:12.45 | gregj | anyways, I don't have to speak Polish too often while in UK, cos most of my friends are Brits |
| 18:13.02 | murble | s/Russian/& speakers/ |
| 18:13.14 | gregj | so I don't care, and probably my acent is telling everything anyways |
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| 19:26.18 | murble | gregj: on irc? :-) |
| 19:59.31 | mozrat | Good evening people |
| 20:06.15 | ufo | good evening :) |
| 20:06.27 | mozrat | Hello Mr Marcin |
| 20:07.19 | ufo | What's up Mr Simon? |
| 20:07.48 | mozrat | Not a lot Mr Marcin |
| 20:07.53 | mozrat | still compiling Gnome :) |
| 20:08.00 | mozrat | finished the main desktop bits now |
| 20:09.23 | ufo | On żentoo? ;] |
| 20:09.32 | ufo | I mean gentoo ... |
| 20:09.40 | mozrat | Good lord no |
| 20:09.46 | mozrat | no, no, no |
| 20:10.15 | mozrat | I'm using Ubuntu but installing garnome 2.11 |
| 20:10.18 | mozrat | under /opt |
| 20:10.29 | mozrat | so I can run a stable desktop at work and 2.11 elsewhere |
| 20:10.32 | ufo | which ubuntu? latest one? |
| 20:10.39 | mozrat | yeah |
| 20:10.57 | ufo | still issues with gaim? |
| 20:11.36 | mozrat | No, just general dependancy problems |
| 20:11.57 | mozrat | trying to find out which library contains XScreensave extensions at the moment |
| 20:12.05 | ufo | keep compilling another dependencies ;] |
| 20:12.05 | mozrat | no big problems :) |
| 20:12.11 | mozrat | yeah :) |
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| 20:13.19 | mozrat | hey gonzo |
| 20:40.35 | morsing_ | Hi mozrat |
| 20:40.41 | morsing_ | You coming tomorrow? |
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| 20:51.08 | mozrat | morsing_: maybe :) |
| 21:11.14 | gregj | I need someone who knows a lot about sec-dns protocol |
| 21:11.34 | gregj | my question would be, is the traffic on sec-dns encrypted, or is it just signed ? |
| 21:15.15 | mozrat | gregj - have you seen the article on http://gregj.isagaylord.com ? |
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| 21:28.33 | morsing_ | What?!? |
| 21:28.44 | gregj | yeah, rrright |
| 21:29.28 | gregj | mozrat: but I've seen https://mozrat.isagaylord.com/ |
| 21:29.41 | gregj | http://mozrat.isagaylord.com/ |
| 21:31.25 | mozrat | guenther: :) |
| 21:48.17 | mozrat | heh |
| 21:48.32 | mozrat | that was the wrong channel when I said guenther |
| 21:48.45 | mozrat | I wasn't calling you a 'guenther' gregj :) |
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| 22:38.32 | mozrat | hello anth |
| 22:38.46 | anth | hi, hows it going |
| 22:38.50 | mozrat | good ta |
| 22:38.57 | mozrat | new zealand? nice |
| 22:39.34 | anth | yeah, well the weather not too good today |
| 22:39.47 | mozrat | hot hot hot here today |
| 22:39.57 | mozrat | around 90 I think |
| 22:40.31 | anth | I haven't been here since late August last year, anything startling happen since then? |
| 22:40.42 | mozrat | ooooooh, well |
| 22:40.46 | mozrat | Hmm |
| 22:40.56 | mozrat | Olympic bid? |
| 22:41.22 | mozrat | Blair won again |
| 22:41.24 | mozrat | I dunno |
| 22:41.26 | mozrat | not much |
| 22:42.29 | anth | About what I expected |
| 22:43.34 | mozrat | yep! |