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| 00:24.51 | rhowe | Are the spammers trying to suggest something about Maddox? :) |
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| 06:59.04 | Leeds | morning magnus |
| 07:20.52 | Cope | 0morning leeds |
| 07:21.03 | Leeds | hey Cope :-) |
| 07:21.06 | Cope | William waves. |
| 07:21.40 | Cope | William is on my knee, 'dancing' to xfm |
| 07:21.48 | Leeds | :-) |
| 07:22.14 | Leeds | convenient, really |
| 07:24.02 | Leeds | at a protocol, admin, code level? |
| 07:24.35 | Cope | different files, commands etc] |
| 07:24.48 | Cope | similar functionality, I agree |
| 07:29.48 | Cope | Do they really think people will drop what they're doing? |
| 07:30.08 | Leeds | they're catering to impulse buyers |
| 07:30.11 | Leeds | don't do that |
| 07:30.56 | Cope | grey, windy and cold in london |
| 07:31.12 | Leeds | grey, a little windy, and hot in HK :-) |
| 07:31.31 | Cope | oh - and are PSP girls girls with Play Station Portables? |
| 07:31.40 | Leeds | my instincts don't work - I'm in aircon all the time inside, I look outside and it's grey and I think "oh, must be chilly" |
| 07:31.42 | Leeds | yes, they are |
| 07:31.47 | Cope | yum |
| 07:31.56 | Leeds | but it's maybe 10-13 degrees warmer than it looks to English eyes |
| 07:32.07 | Cope | ah |
| 07:32.49 | Leeds | no, I won't bring you back a PSP :-) |
| 07:33.01 | Cope | a girl would do? |
| 07:33.02 | Cope | ;-) |
| 07:33.27 | Leeds | don't be greedy - how many cute Chinese girls do you need? |
| 07:33.32 | Cope | aha - new coldplay song |
| 07:33.54 | Leeds | a-ha or coldplay? |
| 07:34.17 | Cope | i'm sure this has been around for a while but I've not heard it yet |
| 07:34.33 | Leeds | they do have a new single about now and a new album coming... |
| 07:34.50 | Cope | I think so |
| 07:37.53 | Leeds | anyway... time for me to go out |
| 07:38.13 | Cope | new album - 6th June |
| 07:38.18 | Cope | so we're told |
| 07:38.33 | Cope | but its being played in full on xfm on 31st May |
| 07:38.37 | Leeds | I could probably buy it on the streets here already... |
| 09:25.34 | mozrat | Hello leeds |
| 09:25.42 | Leeds | afternoon mozrat |
| 09:25.57 | mozrat | how are you doing over there? |
| 09:26.21 | Leeds | sweating |
| 09:26.42 | mozrat | heh |
| 09:26.59 | Leeds | did you not get the story? |
| 09:28.32 | Leeds | I'm out here working, as a trial, for some distant-ish family who have already made me a semi-formal offer to stay indefinitely |
| 09:30.06 | mozrat | oh cool! |
| 09:30.06 | Leeds | no, hot! |
| 09:30.06 | mozrat | what do you think? |
| 09:30.07 | Leeds | :-) for some reason the aircon is off |
| 09:30.07 | mozrat | :) |
| 09:30.36 | Leeds | um... not sure... one big question is that the majority of the family busines is in Sri Lanka, so it would mean spending a significant amount of time there - I need to see what that is like before deciding |
| 09:31.29 | Leeds | but apart from that, I'm feeling like giving it a go... the other main thing which worries me is that this is a reasonably foreign place, with a significant white English-speaking minority, and I'm slightly nervous about making friends who aren't part of the family I already know |
| 09:31.59 | mozrat | yeah |
| 09:32.06 | mozrat | I have a friend who lives in HK |
| 09:32.11 | mozrat | he's been there about a year now |
| 09:32.17 | Leeds | sweet... more contacts :-) |
| 09:32.45 | Leeds | there is a small but active Jewish community which provides most of the life for the family |
| 09:32.50 | mozrat | should I give him your gmail address?? he's a fellow geekozoid |
| 09:33.07 | Leeds | sure, go ahead, thanks |
| 09:33.17 | Leeds | have you ever been out here? |
| 09:33.25 | mozrat | Nope |
| 09:33.55 | mozrat | I have to run.... on GPRS in the local college. Daughter is just about to finish her French lessons |
| 09:34.02 | mozrat | catch you later |
| 09:34.09 | Leeds | seeya |
| 09:35.18 | Leeds | not that it matters so much now, maybe, but I got an SMS from O2 a few weeks ago: "we've not been charging you for data since November - we're going to start doing so on 1st May" |
| 09:36.31 | rhowe | Orange have given me free UK SMSes evenings & weekends :) |
| 09:36.45 | Leeds | useful |
| 09:36.59 | rhowe | (though I do have to top up 15 quid a month, which makes it 5 quid a month more expensive than the old Genie service, and has the additional restriction of daytime SMSes costing money) |
| 09:37.17 | rhowe | Genie changed their deal fairly rapidly though to be 300 SMSes a month |
| 09:37.20 | rhowe | (for the tenner) |
| 09:37.34 | Leeds | O2 actually have some decent stuff as long as you top-up ?15 a month - they give you a bunch of free voice minutes |
| 09:37.48 | rhowe | That's hanady |
| 09:37.51 | rhowe | handy, too |
| 09:39.03 | Leeds | BTW, didn't meet Sarah this afternoon - she called to postpone to Monday |
| 09:39.31 | rhowe | Leeds: *nod* I know |
| 09:39.36 | Leeds | okay |
| 09:39.37 | rhowe | Leeds: Have you had durian before? |
| 09:40.18 | Leeds | not that I'm aware of... what is it? :-) |
| 09:40.18 | rhowe | Leeds: It's a fruit |
| 09:40.19 | Leeds | ah |
| 09:40.19 | rhowe | Leeds: I shall instruct Sarah that you must try durian when you meet up |
| 09:40.19 | Leeds | um, okay |
| 09:40.20 | rhowe | Leeds: Then you can tell me what it's like :P |
| 09:40.24 | Leeds | heh |
| 09:41.24 | rhowe | It's a fruit with a reputation |
| 09:41.58 | Leeds | um |
| 09:42.37 | Leeds | what sort of rep? |
| 09:43.03 | rhowe | It has a distinctive odour - I'm sure wikipedia has extensive info at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/durian |
| 09:43.07 | rhowe | bbiab :) |
| 10:06.13 | rhowe | heh 'A durian falling on a person's head can cause serious injuries or death due to the fact that it is heavy, spiky, and may fall from high up' |
| 10:07.06 | Leeds | my pseudo-uncle doesn't really recommend it... |
| 10:07.52 | rhowe | heh, |
| 10:08.36 | rhowe | 'Some Westerners have described the fruit as "like eating custard in a public lavatory"' |
| 10:09.33 | Leeds | apparently the best way to eat it is fresh, from a stall on the edge of the road in the area where it's grown - the fresher it is, the less smell |
| 10:10.31 | Leeds | anyway, I'm going out again for a bit |
| 10:28.52 | edward | http://www.ukonline.gov.uk/ <-- HTTP Server Error 503 |
| 10:28.54 | edward | UK government is offline |
| 10:30.39 | rhowe | heh |
| 10:36.50 | rhowe | hosted by loudcloud |
| 10:37.02 | rhowe | "As of November, the Sunnyvale, Calif. company had an accumulated deficit of $180 million. It reported revenue of just $6.5 million in the nine-month period ending Oct. 31, 2000." |
| 10:37.10 | rhowe | So says a 4 year old Wired article :) |
| 10:37.53 | rhowe | though loudcloud is apparently Opsware now, founded by Marc Andreeson of Netscape fame |
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| 11:41.28 | pawel | hi guys. |
| 11:41.48 | pawel | pawelnew@mobile1-1:~$ uname -a |
| 11:41.48 | pawel | Linux mobile1-1 2.6.10-5-powerpc #1 Tue Apr 5 12:44:32 UTC 2005 ppc GNU/Linux |
| 11:41.50 | pawel | :> |
| 11:41.55 | pawel | at last. |
| 11:43.42 | pawel | I have to say, Linux runs faster on PPC. |
| 11:59.07 | Leeds | rhowe: well, I saw them for sale - no mistaking them |
| 12:08.34 | Leeds | and... I'm gone again |
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| 13:33.03 | rhowe | animation, rather. http://siksai.co.uk/~rhowe/movingmobile.mpg :) |
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| 13:36.58 | murray2 | hiya ... playing with a new wireless card, which i believe is prism2.5/3 |
| 13:37.21 | murray2 | modprobe hostap_cs and modprobe orinoco_cs done |
| 13:37.24 | rhowe | you believe? :) |
| 13:37.30 | rhowe | Hadn't you better make sure? :) |
| 13:37.42 | murray2 | cardctl shows it's there, but I cannot get iwconfig to see it. ideas? |
| 13:38.25 | rhowe | Have you checked for any messages logged by the kernel? |
| 13:39.15 | murray2 | dmseg isn't showing anything, if that is what you mean? |
| 13:39.45 | rhowe | I would expect the hostap_cs and orinoco_cs to at least log *something* when they load |
| 13:40.00 | rhowe | The drivers for the Atheros cards I have are most noisy when loading |
| 13:42.33 | murray2 | nope, rebooted and re-modprobe'd. hostap_cs just logs a single id line (author, version). orinoco_cs is silent |
| 13:44.58 | murray2 | prism3 |
| 14:03.08 | rhowe | I would guess that the chipset isn't supported by the drivers then |
| 14:03.22 | rhowe | as I would expect them to at least say "ooh, found such and such a chip" |
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| 14:16.50 | Pwn3r | when i tar up directorys and then untar them on another machine the owners are messed up |
| 14:25.52 | JAV | hello |
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| 17:11.51 | zachary | ello |
| 17:13.10 | Leeds | morning zachary |
| 17:13.48 | zachary | more like afternoon, still in UK? |
| 17:14.02 | Leeds | not... exactly... |
| 17:14.18 | Leeds | try Hong Kong |
| 17:14.44 | zachary | I guess that would be "good morning". |
| 17:14.54 | Leeds | just got in |
| 17:15.45 | zachary | That's like gmt + 8 hrs, right? |
| 17:15.55 | Leeds | bst+7, yes |
| 17:16.33 | Leeds | how's things? |
| 17:17.54 | zachary | Doing pretty good. I'm in a break from college for a few weeks. I start back up on the 31st. 11 more classes :) |
| 17:18.33 | Leeds | well, I'm currently (and possibly for the foreseeable future) working out here |
| 17:19.18 | zachary | Interesting! Dimsum, mmmmm. |
| 17:19.49 | Leeds | :-) |
| 17:22.07 | zachary | Jess is leaving on deployment for six weeks. Joint training with the Royal Navy and a port call in Scottland and Ireland. |
| 17:22.07 | Leeds | oh, and the working is at a bra-making company |
| 17:23.07 | zachary | I'm sure you are not modeling, right! |
| 17:23.17 | Leeds | certainly not |
| 17:23.50 | zachary | Yea, underwire really sucks! I prefer the sports-bras. |
| 17:25.08 | Leeds | the boss (who, yes, is a cousin, which is how come I'm here) sent me a PDF yesterday of a report into new ways of measuring bra sizes, focussing on larger sizes for today's fat western woman |
| 17:25.59 | zachary | So, is the measurement in yards then? |
| 17:26.15 | Leeds | nah, but they're talking up to HH cup or so |
| 17:27.24 | zachary | unreal! |
| 17:27.49 | Leeds | apparently not |
| 17:28.22 | zachary | So that's like some woman using turkeys as breast implants. |
| 17:28.22 | Leeds | anyway, what I personally am mainly doing right now is swearing at Excel, but then I've only been here 8 days |
| 17:28.50 | zachary | I'm sorry! curse away. |
| 17:29.11 | Leeds | amazingly - and this may be the first time I've ever said this - openoffice.org really helped |
| 17:29.39 | Leeds | Excel file -> openoffice.org -> xml spreadsheet -> python program -> custom structured xml file |
| 17:29.51 | zachary | cool. |
| 17:30.02 | Leeds | once it's in a structured file in any open format, I can slice and dice the data however I want |
| 17:30.26 | zachary | Love scripting! |
| 17:30.58 | Leeds | they gave me an nt4 box - I'm living with it for now, but it shouldn't be for much longer |
| 17:31.36 | Leeds | I've installed on it, this week: python, vim, cygwin (including X.org), openoffice.org, xchat, putty, firefox, thunderbird, bitlbee, apache... |
| 17:33.23 | zachary | Sounds like an appropriate mix. |
| 17:34.23 | Leeds | it's a p3-650 or so without a huge amount of ram - it's struggling at times |
| 17:34.43 | zachary | Next term I'm taking Advanced Unix & C, Perl and Intro to Relational DB. |
| 17:34.48 | Leeds | nice |
| 17:35.40 | Leeds | wait... perl? why bother learning line noise? :-) |
| 17:35.49 | zachary | This last term, the Unix and shell script really helped. I've been having fun writing scripts for indexing and resizing pictures |
| 17:36.30 | zachary | Why perl, because the other option is VB or Java. |
| 17:36.38 | Leeds | ah |
| 17:36.56 | Leeds | indexing and resizing pictures is easy :-) |
| 17:42.14 | zachary | Next project is to throw in another harddrive into my webserver. Jess's camera is kicking out 3-6MB pictures. God I love her camera. |
| 17:42.52 | Leeds | heh |
| 17:55.10 | Cope | Anyone seen my terminated scsi cable? |
| 17:55.16 | Cope | Or has William hidden it? |
| 17:55.43 | zachary | Yea, it made it in my move. I have it around here somewhere. |
| 17:57.34 | Cope | Good to see you zachary :) |
| 17:58.38 | Leeds | Cope: it's highly personal - this is about as far as I could get from you |
| 17:59.24 | zachary | Cope, I think that's a little ego-centric. I never wanted to leave in the first place. |
| 18:09.06 | Leeds | anyway, sleeptime for me |
| 18:09.14 | Cope | rest well :o) |
| 18:11.42 | Leeds | g'night |
| 18:17.38 | gregj | Cope: don't blame yourself |
| 18:18.17 | gregj | US suxzz |
| 18:18.58 | zachary | gregj, I completely agree! |
| 18:19.59 | gregj | zachary: you're still in London ? |
| 18:20.29 | zachary | no, back in the US. |
| 18:40.52 | Cope | oh yeah - I scared off gregj too. |
| 18:40.54 | Cope | :-( |
| 18:41.01 | gregj | rrright |
| 18:41.04 | Cope | and pdr is going to japan |
| 18:41.13 | Cope | nice |
| 18:41.15 | gregj | www.bsdcan.org |
| 18:41.25 | gregj | very nice city, ottwa |
| 18:41.32 | gregj | :] |
| 18:41.41 | Cope | are there lots of chinese people in ottowa? |
| 18:53.29 | gregj | not somany |
| 18:53.33 | gregj | there's loads in Vancouver |
| 19:02.34 | Cope | gregj: that's what I said |
| 19:02.44 | Cope | highbury: you're leaving too? |
| 19:03.13 | Cope | London really sucks, eh? |
| 19:03.54 | Cope | which is a much longer and more expensive commute |
| 19:04.36 | highbury | Old Street would be nice commute for me. |
| 19:05.59 | highbury | cope: perhaps, work-wise things have been very quiet, also we're concerned about future schooling for Toren, everything round here insists that you attend their associated Church! |
| 19:09.29 | Cope | round here there is one ok school that isn't fee paying, and two very good fee paying schools. |
| 19:09.45 | Cope | but the ok state one is tiny, and insists you attend their church |
| 19:10.18 | Cope | there must be a good pre-prep school near you |
| 19:11.37 | Cope | highbury: I don't understand why work is quiet for you - the contract market seems to be vibrant in/around docklands |
| 19:11.57 | Cope | So much so that a bunch of folk I work with are seriously considering going back into it |
| 20:42.17 | zachary | Cope, Lonely?? |
| 20:43.16 | Cope | lol |
| 20:43.35 | Cope | william and hui are asleep, so debian is all I have to hug |
| 20:44.01 | zachary | Yes, Debian is nice. But it's nothing I would get too emotionally/physically attached to. |
| 20:45.41 | Cope | well I was feeling please with apt-get build-dep foo and apt-get source. |
| 20:47.19 | zachary | Yea, but 'apt-get install beer' is still a bit buggy. I'm still not satisfied with the quality. |
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| 22:27.00 | mikejw | lo |
| 22:27.42 | Cope | hello mikejw |
| 22:32.13 | [gt] | hi cope |
| 22:32.25 | [gt] | how is your weekend |
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| 22:43.26 | rhowe | woo |
| 22:47.28 | Cope | [gt]: good so far; abiout to get some rest |
| 22:47.43 | Cope | rhowe: i don't think its automatic |
| 22:48.39 | rhowe | Cope: Well I never add [Gllug] to my message subjects - do you type [GLLUG] when you email the list? |
| 22:49.17 | Cope | and i find if i don't the messages don't appear |
| 22:49.22 | rhowe | Cope: Ah, then maybe that's why - you type it, and the list software doesn't change it |
| 22:49.25 | rhowe | Really? |
| 22:49.38 | rhowe | How strange |
| 22:49.42 | Cope | well i never see them |
| 22:49.48 | Cope | but that may be a gmail quirk |
| 22:50.16 | rhowe | Cope: Did you see my video? :) |
| 22:50.35 | Cope | for example, did you see my summary of the pxeboot issue with the re-flashing of the nic? |
| 22:50.42 | rhowe | Yes |
| 22:50.45 | Cope | rhowe: I don't think so |
| 22:51.05 | rhowe | Cope: http://siksai.co.uk/~rhowe/movingmobile.mpg (or .avi or .wmv) |
| 22:51.14 | Cope | rhowe: i never saw it arrive, and because no-one replied, i assumed it had never arived |
| 22:52.17 | rhowe | Cope: gmail didn't do something weird like file it into your sent box when it came back in, did it? |
| 22:52.26 | rhowe | Cope: Seeing that it was sent by you or something |
| 22:54.02 | Cope | who knows! |
| 22:54.45 | Cope | right. sleep. |
| 22:54.51 | Cope | goodnight all |
| 22:55.12 | rhowe | night |
| 23:13.57 | eye69 | G'd evening |
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| 23:48.18 | hurryon | hi |
| 23:49.10 | hurryon | ? |
| 23:51.15 | mikejw | hi |
| 23:51.44 | hurryon | ^^ |
| 23:51.45 | hurryon | hi |
| 23:51.52 | hurryon | i am from Korea. |
| 23:51.58 | mikejw | cool |
| 23:52.10 | hurryon | but...i am little English. sorry. |
| 23:52.33 | hurryon | i stay in London to learn English. |
| 23:52.34 | hurryon | ^^ |
| 23:52.59 | mikejw | do you use linux? |
| 23:53.05 | hurryon | sure. |
| 23:53.11 | mikejw | awesome |
| 23:53.20 | hurryon | visit my home page |
| 23:53.25 | hurryon | http://www.hurryon.org |
| 23:53.26 | hurryon | ^^ |
| 23:53.44 | hurryon | i have used debian Linux. |
| 23:54.27 | hurryon | um... |
| 23:54.54 | hurryon | i am happy. because...i meet linux users. |
| 23:54.56 | hurryon | ^^ |
| 23:56.22 | hurryon | ??? hey...too quite... |
| 23:56.24 | hurryon | ... |
| 23:58.25 | hurryon | .. |
| 23:58.26 | hurryon | . |
| 23:58.31 | hurryon | hello? |