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| 07:28.53 | SlayerXP | morning |
| 07:34.06 | mozrat | Morning MAB |
| 07:39.12 | SlayerXP | yo |
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| 08:54.40 | Leeds | Question Time++ |
| 09:06.27 | Leeds | it's not often that you get to see a Prime Minister questioned live on TV by a hostile audience... |
| 09:09.15 | Leeds | Charles Kennedy was accused of being uncharismatic, Michael Howard was accused of being a racist, Tony Blair accused of being negligant and told to resign... |
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| 09:17.02 | ufo- | moin :) |
| 09:17.06 | Leeds | hey |
| 09:18.55 | Leeds | hmm... shit |
| 09:19.29 | mozrat | hey ufo-! |
| 09:19.48 | Leeds | first election results come in at about 10:30pm on the 5th, and continue for 8-10 hours until there's a firm result... |
| 09:20.00 | Leeds | at 10:30pm on the 5th, I get onto a plane, for about 12.5 hours... |
| 09:21.46 | Leeds | meanwhile, at some point I expect to get a voting card... |
| 09:22.01 | SlayerXP | got mine already |
| 09:22.08 | SlayerXP | about 2 weeks ago I think |
| 09:22.18 | SlayerXP | i'll be voting libdem as ever |
| 09:22.26 | mozrat | there's an election? |
| 09:22.35 | SlayerXP | on the basis that they're not labour, tory, green or mad. |
| 09:22.51 | SlayerXP | mozrat: you're probably not eligible to vote |
| 09:23.01 | mozrat | SlayerXP: based on..... ? |
| 09:23.02 | Leeds | I did register, AFAIK |
| 09:23.35 | SlayerXP | mozrat: don't ask me, I've no idea what subversive things you do in your spare time |
| 09:23.59 | Leeds | SlayerXP: um, in this country they don't normally take away your right to vote on the basis of subversive activites |
| 09:24.28 | SlayerXP | Leeds: maybe they've made an exception for mozrat |
| 09:24.28 | mozrat | Leeds, they do. Prisoners can't vote |
| 09:25.00 | Leeds | mozrat: okay, but not for subversive activities as such - only for conficted criminals |
| 09:25.06 | Leeds | convicted! |
| 09:25.19 | SlayerXP | Leeds: by definition any subversive behaviour is illegal |
| 09:25.37 | Leeds | I disagree |
| 09:25.59 | SlayerXP | i'm sure you do, hence the black helicopters are heading to your location now |
| 09:26.18 | Leeds | they use green ones around here.. |
| 09:38.36 | ufo- | mozrat: Are you hiding on IM? ;] |
| 09:43.56 | wethrin | conflicted criminals! |
| 09:44.56 | mozrat | ufo- don't sign on so much nowdays |
| 09:45.00 | mozrat | too busy |
| 09:57.25 | Leeds | and a cute little j2me google maps client |
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| 10:57.38 | JAV | morning |
| 11:24.36 | Jang0 | sup |
| 11:27.00 | SlayerXP | http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=9855&item=4545995772&rd=1 |
| 11:30.11 | Leeds | SlayerXP: you in a shopping mood? |
| 11:34.24 | SlayerXP | leeds: whyfore? |
| 11:34.51 | Leeds | for a car |
| 11:38.29 | SlayerXP | no |
| 11:38.35 | SlayerXP | i just liked the description |
| 11:40.25 | Leeds | good :-) |
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| 12:21.50 | Leeds | hmm... something has gone strange with my X... |
| 12:22.01 | Leeds | and I remember when there used to be postal service in the mornings in this country |
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| 12:27.46 | Leeds | that's much better |
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| 12:57.12 | highbury | hello |
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| 13:21.39 | itsbruce | Afternoon |
| 13:25.53 | highbury | and its a nice one, it looks bright and Sunny |
| 13:26.20 | JAV | Leeds: http://www.j2mepolish.org/index.html |
| 13:32.33 | Leeds | JAV: ooh, I like the look of that :-) |
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| 16:31.05 | wethrin | morsing! |
| 17:22.44 | George | hey wethrin |
| 17:22.58 | wethrin | George! |
| 17:23.08 | George | wethrin! |
| 17:23.17 | wethrin | GEORGE! |
| 17:23.19 | George | wethrin: I'm going up to ox tomorrow |
| 17:23.32 | wethrin | Yay! |
| 17:23.33 | wethrin | why? |
| 17:24.11 | George | to look around |
| 17:24.19 | George | decide whether it's worth applying there instead of cam |
| 17:26.00 | wethrin | Yes, it is |
| 17:26.02 | wethrin | Definitely |
| 17:26.08 | wethrin | And i'm not biased at all |
| 17:26.10 | George | haha |
| 17:26.17 | George | I was in cam on tuesday |
| 17:26.18 | George | nice place :) |
| 17:28.12 | wethrin | It's hateful and flat |
| 17:28.16 | wethrin | Oxford at least has one hill |
| 17:28.34 | wethrin | Ox has an older Computer Society |
| 17:32.40 | George | hateful? |
| 17:33.02 | wethrin | Yes |
| 17:33.26 | George | in wyhat way? |
| 17:33.36 | wethrin | It's Cambridge |
| 17:33.40 | wethrin | And full of evil Debian people |
| 17:34.48 | George | lol |
| 17:35.06 | George | you dislike debian? |
| 17:35.35 | wethrin | Yes |
| 17:35.40 | George | why? |
| 17:37.22 | wethrin | Mostly due to the attitude of a lot of the people |
| 18:08.02 | wethrin | bye all! |
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| 18:28.04 | Oj | howdy... |
| 18:30.06 | Leeds | evening |
| 18:30.44 | Ojfb | couple of months ago i attended a lug in london where i had SuSE installed |
| 18:31.02 | Ojfb | my puters stuffed again, and i was looking for a meet where i could get i reinstalled |
| 18:31.05 | Ojfb | any ideas? |
| 18:31.49 | highbury | wait till our next meeting or do it yourself? |
| 18:31.59 | Ojfb | those are two options |
| 18:32.14 | Ojfb | i wonder if you know which lug associates itself with suse? |
| 18:32.19 | Ojfb | ive forgotten their name |
| 18:32.22 | highbury | suse 9.3 is just out |
| 18:32.38 | Ojfb | cool |
| 18:32.43 | highbury | some is in this LUG like SuSE, but we have many and varied tastes |
| 18:33.23 | Ojfb | dosnt have to be suse actually, just anything thats stable - allthough compared to xp ive been using anything will do that |
| 18:33.57 | highbury | what machine do you have? |
| 18:34.18 | Ojfb | ummm a collosus laptop |
| 18:35.25 | Ojfb | not sure what the specs are |
| 18:35.28 | highbury | all hardware working? |
| 18:35.32 | Ojfb | oh yeah |
| 18:35.37 | highbury | you need to get the specs |
| 18:35.52 | highbury | you need to collect as much information about it as possible |
| 18:36.20 | highbury | consider going to belarc.com and downloading their audit program, to identify all your hardware |
| 18:36.26 | Ojfb | umm i think its a 18gb hd, 1.2ghz |
| 18:37.14 | Ojfb | cd writer dvd/cd reader 15in screen, 4 usb ports |
| 18:37.36 | Ojfb | pcmcia |
| 18:38.16 | Ojfb | its partitioned 3gb/15gb i was going to use the 3 for xp and the 15 for linux |
| 18:39.45 | highbury | you need to know what graphics processor it has, what max resolution screen, whether it used APM or ACPI |
| 18:39.52 | Ojfb | oh ok |
| 18:40.15 | highbury | the more detailed the better |
| 18:40.39 | Ojfb | belarc huh.. ill use that |
| 18:40.57 | highbury | nowadays, you can sometimes get away without knowing this stuff, but its always handy to know in case of problems |
| 18:41.51 | highbury | you need to decide whether you want to pay for your distro, which might give you some ability to call a helpline, or get printed docuemntation |
| 18:41.52 | Ojfb | for somebody who has a basic knowledge of pc's how hard would it be to install it myself? |
| 18:42.13 | Ojfb | actually i just remember my neighbour knows linux ill ask him |
| 18:42.14 | highbury | do you have access to another machine while your doing it? |
| 18:42.17 | Ojfb | yep |
| 18:42.37 | highbury | good, then keep a window open on irc, and go for it! |
| 18:42.47 | Ojfb | cool |
| 18:42.58 | highbury | the only issue is making sure you don't trounce your XP partition |
| 18:43.13 | Ojfb | looking forward to losing windows and all those #**&##&* adware programs |
| 18:43.22 | Ojfb | oh |
| 18:50.26 | Leeds | unless, of course, you *want* to trounce your XP partition :-) |
| 18:51.26 | Ojfb | no, unfortunatly i'll still need xp on occasion |
| 18:51.34 | Leeds | ah well... it'll come |
| 18:51.45 | Ojfb | my wifi card is esoteric and not supported under linux |
| 18:52.30 | Leeds | hmm... |
| 18:52.47 | Leeds | internal or external? |
| 18:52.54 | Ojfb | external |
| 18:52.57 | Ojfb | pcmcia |
| 18:53.17 | Leeds | g? |
| 18:53.39 | Ojfb | yeah, the new one |
| 18:53.41 | Ojfb | the fast one |
| 18:54.22 | Leeds | ah... because most b cards do work now |
| 18:54.28 | Leeds | g is harder |
| 19:04.38 | highbury | this is why you sometimes need to go down to the chipset level, when collecting information about your machine |
| 19:05.36 | Leeds | chipset *revision* even, often |
| 19:06.13 | Ojfb | i sometimes wonder why pcs need to be so complicated |
| 19:06.47 | Ojfb | I guess eventually it will go through the same stage that cars went through |
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| 19:06.56 | Leeds | because they're extremely powerful, flexible and modular |
| 19:07.03 | Ojfb | most drivers dont have a clue about their engines nowdays but we can all reap the benefits |
| 19:12.47 | Ojfb | gotta get it to a turn-key situation |
| 19:13.16 | highbury | no the service centres can charge a fortune to change something that was simple for the driver to do 20 years ago |
| 19:14.20 | Ojfb | or you can fix it yourself |
| 19:14.35 | Ojfb | or use an honest mechanic |
| 19:14.50 | Ojfb | probably in the same street as the honest politician and lawyer :) |
| 19:15.24 | Ojfb | but my point is that cars work so reliably these days that drivers dont need to know that much |
| 19:15.49 | Ojfb | whereas XP and windows still crashes and requires specialist knowleged to do anything besides use the net or write a letter |
| 19:18.31 | Ojfb | yummo |
| 19:18.45 | Ojfb | im eating home made sphaghetti bolognaise... |
| 19:19.13 | Leeds | tuna, ketchup, two sorts of cheese, on matzah, microwaved |
| 19:19.24 | Ojfb | matzah? |
| 19:19.32 | Leeds | matzah |
| 19:19.36 | Ojfb | whats that? |
| 19:19.42 | Ojfb | herb bread |
| 19:20.08 | Leeds | precisely not :-) |
| 19:20.18 | Leeds | bread is the one thing it's not allowed to be... |
| 19:20.24 | Ojfb | http://www.matzahmate.com/index.php |
| 19:20.26 | Ojfb | ;) |
| 19:20.28 | Leeds | it's passover this week |
| 19:20.54 | Ojfb | oh ok |
| 19:20.58 | Leeds | no bread allowed |
| 19:21.13 | Leeds | matzah is un-risen cracker-type stuff |
| 19:21.20 | Ojfb | oh ok |
| 19:21.31 | Ojfb | are you jewish? |
| 19:21.39 | Leeds | yup |
| 19:21.44 | Leeds | you mean you're not? :-) |
| 19:21.52 | Ojfb | oh oc! |
| 19:22.08 | Ojfb | oy vey |
| 19:22.22 | Leeds | oy |
| 19:22.24 | Leeds | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Matzah |
| 19:22.29 | Ojfb | how can you say such a thing |
| 19:22.38 | Leeds | ? |
| 19:23.00 | Ojfb | never mind wrong channel |
| 19:23.31 | Leeds | okay... |
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| 20:25.40 | BobtheAvenger | hey |
| 20:51.25 | JAV | hi |
| 20:52.00 | BobtheAvenger | howz u? |
| 20:52.30 | JAV | what? :D |
| 20:52.38 | BobtheAvenger | how are you? |
| 20:52.56 | JAV | fine thanks, and you? |
| 20:53.12 | BobtheAvenger | mentally alot better than physicsally |
| 20:54.24 | JAV | what happened? |
| 20:54.39 | BobtheAvenger | my mate threw a rock at the back of my head |
| 20:55.38 | JAV | I thought that "mate" was a word for friend |
| 20:55.42 | BobtheAvenger | well its stopped bleeding badly, after 11 hours |
| 20:55.59 | BobtheAvenger | yer, he didnt mean 2 |
| 20:56.34 | JAV | 11? did you think about stitching? |
| 20:57.00 | BobtheAvenger | it stopped bleeding then started again afew times |
| 20:58.00 | BobtheAvenger | it wasn't worth goin hospital with |
| 20:58.16 | JAV | it still looks like a serious candidate to urgencies |
| 20:58.31 | JAV | you need all that blood! :D |
| 20:58.55 | BobtheAvenger | i had this argument with my friends, i didnt get concuission so i'm got going to hospital |
| 20:59.52 | BobtheAvenger | *not |
| 21:01.17 | BobtheAvenger | apparently its diconcerting that i was laughing at their panicing |
| 21:01.21 | JAV | you decide, it's your head :D |
| 21:03.04 | BobtheAvenger | eye drops can be used on cuts to the head :D |
| 21:08.40 | JAV | eye drops? |
| 21:08.59 | BobtheAvenger | yer eye disinfectant stuff |
| 21:10.07 | JAV | ah, ok. Maybe too soft, aren't they? |
| 21:10.20 | BobtheAvenger | i dunno |
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| 21:19.16 | Leeds | evening pie! |
| 21:19.21 | pie | Evening! |
| 21:19.24 | BobtheAvenger | hey |
| 21:19.34 | Leeds | long time no see |
| 21:19.42 | pie | Yes, boy do I have a hang over :) |
| 21:20.06 | Leeds | you've been drinking for the past 2 months? |
| 21:20.26 | pie | If I had been then I would not expect to get a hang over... |
| 21:20.56 | Leeds | so what's up? |
| 21:21.30 | pie | You know, the sky, the moon, zeppelins |
| 21:21.37 | BobtheAvenger | rocks |
| 21:21.49 | pie | and of course marmots. |
| 21:21.49 | George | yoyo Leeds |
| 21:22.03 | pie | I have been programming Ruby and playing with rails |
| 21:22.17 | Leeds | George: hi |
| 21:22.27 | Leeds | BobtheAvenger: look out for flying rocks |
| 21:23.10 | Leeds | pie: ruby on rails seems to have a lot of blogshare recently |
| 21:23.27 | BobtheAvenger | given that thats why i have a cut in the back of my head which has been bleeding on and off for 12 hours, i'll wear a halmet |
| 21:23.28 | pie | Yeah, a hell of a lot |
| 21:23.42 | pie | BobtheAvenger: a Hamlet? |
| 21:23.58 | pie | Leeds: but it is cool |
| 21:24.05 | pie | for web apps anyway |
| 21:24.07 | Leeds | to bleed or not to bleed, that is the question... |
| 21:24.18 | BobtheAvenger | given that i could b concussed, i'm happy its that close |
| 21:24.32 | Leeds | BobtheAvenger: so go make yourself a statistic... |
| 21:24.41 | pie | Alas poor hairpiece, I knew him well |
| 21:25.02 | Leeds | whether to suffer the slings and arrows (and flying rocks) |
| 21:25.17 | BobtheAvenger | i'm the first person to ride 4 roller coasters with a bleeding head injury |
| 21:26.31 | pie | 'E's not pinin'! 'E's passed on! This rock is no more! He has ceased to be! 'E's expired and gone to meet 'is maker! 'E's a stiff! Bereft of life, 'e rests in peace! If you hadn't nailed 'im to the perch 'e'd be pushing up the daisies! 'Is metabolic processes are now 'istory! 'E's off the twig! 'E's kicked the bucket, 'e's shuffled off 'is mortal coil, run down the curtain and joined the bleedin' choir invisibile!! THIS IS AN EX-rock!! |
| 21:26.58 | BobtheAvenger | parrot? |
| 21:27.04 | pie | uh, rock. |
| 21:27.14 | pie | the famous rock cketch |
| 21:27.19 | pie | sketch even |
| 21:27.40 | Leeds | how exactly do you tell the difference between a live rock and a dead one? |
| 21:27.59 | Leeds | or is it just pining for the mountains? |
| 21:28.12 | pie | or the fjords. |
| 21:28.24 | pie | live rocks float |
| 21:28.28 | Leeds | rocks don't live in fjords! |
| 21:28.53 | pie | Migratin rocks do! |
| 21:29.05 | Leeds | african or asian rocks? |
| 21:29.13 | Leeds | uh... european |
| 21:29.22 | pie | Um, I dunno.... Aarrrrrrgh. |
| 21:29.34 | Leeds | anyway... :-) |
| 21:30.08 | pie | OK, I am off to get some more beer and to some programming in Ruby, the best language there is. |
| 21:30.20 | Leeds | pie: so I'm unemployed and going to HK next week to look into working out there |
| 21:30.25 | BobtheAvenger | RUN PIE |
| 21:30.38 | Leeds | see pie run |
| 21:30.39 | pie | Ooooh, cool :) |
| 21:30.45 | pie | run pie run |
| 21:31.29 | BobtheAvenger | mmm pie |
| 21:31.33 | Leeds | got some family out there who think I'm just the person they need to work on their as/400 backend, VB/sql server frontend system... I've told them they might not be entirely correct, but they're insisting :-) |
| 21:31.43 | pie | You need to get yourself up to speen on the culture: http://engrish.com/ |
| 21:32.04 | pie | full speen ahead |
| 21:32.26 | Leeds | spleen? |
| 21:32.37 | pie | uh, speen. |
| 21:32.39 | BobtheAvenger | i got 1 of them |
| 21:33.05 | pie | There is no speen |
| 21:33.22 | pie | BRB |
| 21:42.47 | Leeds | hmm... Tony Christie live on Top of the Pops - there's a lucky lucky man |
| 21:53.24 | BobtheAvenger | well i got a concussion 2 sleep of ... peace |
| 21:53.38 | Leeds | g'night |
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| 22:03.58 | highbury | on solaris, is the best way to not run CDE to set the default run level to 3? |