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| 00:19.45 | zachary | ello, any nicks awake? |
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| 07:24.56 | morsing | morning |
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| 07:27.26 | SlayerXP | {not good} morning |
| 07:30.20 | pdr | mornin |
| 07:30.27 | pdr | why not good? |
| 07:30.50 | SlayerXP | i fired an estate agent by voicemail last night |
| 07:30.55 | SlayerXP | now I have to find another one |
| 07:31.12 | pdr | i see |
| 07:31.21 | pdr | not as bad as my weekend then |
| 07:31.30 | pdr | i had my car broken into |
| 07:31.51 | SlayerXP | bummer |
| 07:32.33 | pdr | they smashed the from passenger and tailgate windows which cost about 2500 pounds to fix, i had to stay another night in liverpool and they nicked my camera with its photos and navigation thingo |
| 07:33.06 | SlayerXP | you left a car unattended in liverpool? :) |
| 07:33.32 | pdr | yes |
| 07:33.38 | SlayerXP | brave :) |
| 07:34.10 | pdr | from what i was told, everyone is really friendly there (they told me many times) |
| 07:34.35 | morsing | pdr: Liverpool is the crime hot-spot in the UK! |
| 07:34.51 | pdr | i thought that was aberdeen |
| 07:36.57 | pdr | i guess i should have parked on the main street rather than in the free parking alley |
| 07:37.14 | pdr | i just didn't realise people did that sort of thing in this country |
| 07:37.30 | pdr | and in the capital of culture! |
| 07:38.46 | morsing | People in this country are close to be the most criminal in Europe. Watch your stuff all the time! |
| 07:47.59 | pdr | besides that, i've picked up a cold, probably from being convinced i didn't need to take a jacket out on saturday night |
| 07:52.54 | murb | pdr: just consider it your contribution to the less regulated parts of the economy. |
| 07:57.18 | pdr | considering they cost me at least 4000 pounds worth of hurt, it's probably not really worth it for the 500 pounds they'll get for my stuff on ebay |
| 08:02.16 | highbury | was it visible from outside of the car? |
| 08:02.47 | pdr | no of course not |
| 08:05.11 | pdr | i had the cover over the boot too which was why they smashed the back window, but they didn't nick the camping gear |
| 08:06.20 | murb | pdr: you think they'd sell it on ebay? |
| 08:06.45 | pdr | probably. safer than the pub |
| 08:06.45 | murb | rather than in the pub? |
| 08:07.56 | murb | paypal for all your money laundering needs? |
| 08:26.40 | morsing | ibot change 240USD to GBP |
| 08:26.47 | morsing | No? |
| 08:26.55 | morsing | ibot change 240 USD to GBP |
| 08:30.53 | morsing | Is there a bus going between Harrow-on-the-hill and Harrow & Wealdstone |
| 08:30.54 | morsing | ? |
| 08:37.36 | highbury | check out the tfl; web site |
| 08:38.39 | morsing | But I don't need a shoe shine?! |
| 08:39.48 | highbury | http://www.transportforlondon.gov.uk/buses/ |
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| 09:22.50 | morsing | Leeds! |
| 09:23.36 | Leeds | morsing: ! |
| 09:24.07 | Leeds | how's life? |
| 10:02.34 | morsing | Mmm... Good. My ******** issues might have been due to Outlook! |
| 10:03.14 | murb | personal |
| 10:03.16 | murb | ? |
| 10:06.00 | Leeds | medical? |
| 10:06.29 | Leeds | French? |
| 10:09.57 | SlayerXP | i find myself missing george |
| 10:10.09 | SlayerXP | need to get my scope recalibrated |
| 10:12.49 | wethrin | SlayerXP: KDE is t3h r0x0r!!!!!!111!! |
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| 10:21.19 | JAV | good morning |
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| 10:27.23 | itsbruce | Morning |
| 10:28.18 | SlayerXP | glad you weren't foolish enough to prefix that with "good" |
| 10:29.34 | itsbruce | If you're referring to the weather, I like rain. |
| 10:29.50 | itsbruce | But that would assume you're in the country. I lose track. |
| 10:30.25 | SlayerXP | it refers to my ex-estate agent |
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| 11:00.44 | rhowe | hm |
| 11:01.01 | rhowe | They're making the pension contributory, but at the same time the student loans company is raising the threshold for repayments :) |
| 11:01.11 | rhowe | So, rather than costing me 150 quid, it's costing me 80 quid on the bottom line |
| 11:01.14 | rhowe | (per month) |
| 11:01.40 | wethrin | So that's another £70 for booze? |
| 11:02.15 | rhowe | Nah, it's 80 quid a month less than last month |
| 11:03.03 | rhowe | Still, things aren't adding up |
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| 11:08.08 | rhowe | Ah right, 35 quid less tax and 35 quid less student loan repayment. That's where the 70 came from |
| 11:10.25 | wethrin | ah |
| 11:55.40 | rhowe | Since the pension contributions aren't taxable |
| 11:55.54 | rhowe | I wonder if the student loan repayments are... |
| 11:56.06 | rhowe | mm, lunchtime |
| 12:02.18 | Leeds | rhowe: I don't know for sure - but I can tell you there's a specific section on the income tax return to list student loan repayments... |
| 12:07.46 | Jang0 | anyone got any experience with webdav and winxp? |
| 12:08.05 | Leeds | I have to say that when I went to have a chat with the (agency formerly know as the) Inland Revenue last week, they were quite friendly and helpful |
| 12:13.37 | rhowe | Oh I'm sure they are |
| 12:18.17 | Leeds | http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/london/4485531.stm sounds scarily familiar |
| 12:19.44 | Leeds | I'm sure I've mentioned here that j-colo had a cheque-book stolen before it reached my mailbox, and attempts to take large amounts out of our account only failed because we didn't have enough money, so the cheques bounced... |
| 12:20.30 | wethrin | shit :-/ |
| 12:21.11 | wethrin | Leeds: I still need to wibble at Nationwide to get me money back for that really-old cheque (which has got lost; I should tell them it's lost in the post) |
| 12:21.52 | Leeds | wethrin: did you get a new bill last week? |
| 12:22.10 | wethrin | Err. I think it was sent to home, yes |
| 12:22.16 | Leeds | good :-) |
| 12:22.27 | wethrin | I have almost no money ATM, though. Next funding comes beginning of June |
| 12:22.38 | wethrin | Then I'll have sufficient to pay without shouting at Nationwide |
| 12:22.42 | wethrin | (although I need to do that anyway) |
| 12:23.34 | Leeds | hmm... okay |
| 12:23.58 | wethrin | sorry :-/ |
| 12:24.32 | Leeds | well, we're not exactly handling our billing with exceptional efficiency... |
| 12:24.38 | Leeds | ;-) |
| 12:24.43 | wethrin | That's true! |
| 12:25.07 | wethrin | Still going to be around Mailbox for a bit, though? |
| 12:25.46 | Leeds | it really should be no longer than the end of this quarter now - i.e. end of June |
| 12:26.53 | wethrin | Ahhh.....so then I'd have to move the machine? |
| 12:26.57 | Leeds | yup |
| 12:27.09 | wethrin | Poo |
| 12:27.14 | Leeds | well, unless you wanted to leave it there and pay full rate... |
| 12:28.30 | wethrin | No :) |
| 12:28.38 | wethrin | A couple of thousand pounds is a bit much |
| 12:29.36 | Leeds | yeah... |
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| 13:04.34 | SlayerXP | wethrin: cease being reasonable on the mailing list |
| 13:04.37 | SlayerXP | AT ONCE! |
| 13:05.01 | SlayerXP | the correct response would have been to point out how much better gentoo's system is |
| 13:05.14 | wethrin | g3nt00 t3h r0x0r!1 |
| 13:05.46 | wethrin | GAH! Silly people equating RPM and apt |
| 13:05.52 | wethrin | No no no NO NO! |
| 13:06.01 | wethrin | Equate rpm and dpkg; or yum and apt |
| 13:06.25 | wethrin | will++ - making my point for me |
| 13:08.15 | wethrin | SlayerXP: When was I being reasonable? |
| 13:08.19 | wethrin | I see no George on there |
| 13:08.33 | SlayerXP | you are steve nelson are you not? |
| 13:08.41 | SlayerXP | or is that leeds |
| 13:09.31 | wethrin | mozrat tends to channel the spirit if he's not being morsing |
| 13:09.39 | wethrin | Cope would be the person you're looking for |
| 13:09.45 | Leeds | indeed |
| 13:11.54 | SlayerXP | oh yes |
| 13:11.54 | SlayerXP | cope |
| 13:12.02 | SlayerXP | http://www.theinquirer.net/?article=22795 |
| 13:12.19 | SlayerXP | le francais say "mai non!" to DRM |
| 13:12.23 | Leeds | and when's the last time dvd drm stopped you doing anything? |
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| 13:13.03 | wethrin | mosring! |
| 13:13.18 | Leeds | or even morsing_ ! |
| 13:13.46 | wethrin | mozring! |
| 13:14.36 | Leeds | mozrat! |
| 13:15.13 | morsing_ | Mmm... Mozrat |
| 13:15.24 | morsing_ | :-) |
| 13:15.33 | morsing_ | ******** sucks |
| 13:15.41 | wethrin | ***? |
| 13:15.52 | wethrin | Are you running in a white-on-black xterm? |
| 13:17.06 | morsing_ | wethrin: Yes |
| 13:17.16 | morsing_ | wethrin: ******** is our VPN "solution" |
| 13:19.24 | wethrin | morsing_: And are the colours better? |
| 13:19.28 | wethrin | Oh right. |
| 13:19.47 | pdr | wethrin: as far as i could see there was no comparison made between rpm and apt |
| 13:20.14 | wethrin | pdr: The phrasing was such that, although slightly ambiguous, the best interpretation was said comparison |
| 13:20.49 | pdr | are you talking about the bit that said "You can download a copy of yum or apt for an RPM based system."? |
| 13:22.22 | wethrin | I think it was a bit earlier |
| 13:22.26 | wethrin | But I've gone off the email now |
| 13:24.37 | Leeds | hmm... it appears my phone will happily play svg (tiny) animations |
| 13:24.46 | wethrin | ooh |
| 13:25.33 | pdr | cool |
| 13:28.34 | Leeds | at least to some extent... |
| 13:29.18 | Leeds | ooh, phone spam |
| 13:30.01 | morsing_ | Leeds: How's your stalker? |
| 13:30.01 | Leeds | "congratulations, you've won a fully-inclusive cruise to the carribean - to claim your prize, simply press 9, that's the 9 key, press it now" |
| 13:30.15 | Leeds | morsing_: I have a stalker? |
| 13:31.10 | Jang0 | yes |
| 13:31.13 | Jang0 | muhahaha |
| 13:31.54 | Leeds | um... |
| 13:32.25 | pdr | my home landline gets about a dozen calls a day from phone spammers |
| 13:32.48 | pdr | i'm thinking of just unplugging it |
| 13:36.02 | itsbruce | There's a service that US phone companies do that I hope someone starts offering over here... |
| 13:36.56 | pdr | you mean the "do not call" register? that's a us government initiative |
| 13:37.00 | itsbruce | When someone rings your number, they hear a message requesting that they type the number they are dialling from on the keypad, before being connected |
| 13:37.19 | itsbruce | Automated caller bots do not do this and so do not get through |
| 13:37.36 | wethrin | Hm. That's rather annoying |
| 13:37.50 | itsbruce | So are the bots. |
| 13:37.55 | wethrin | There is a UK "do-not-call" register too |
| 13:38.04 | pdr | yeah? where is it? |
| 13:38.45 | wethrin | No idea |
| 13:38.47 | itsbruce | wethrin: The list is of debatable use. A lot of spam callers are based overseas and just ignore it |
| 13:38.49 | wethrin | Don't get called enough |
| 13:38.52 | wethrin | True |
| 13:39.15 | Leeds | pdr: tps, I think |
| 13:39.32 | wethrin | Tell the caller that you shall re-annexe their land as part of the New British Empire! |
| 13:39.37 | itsbruce | I added my number to the list, made no difference at all |
| 13:39.50 | Leeds | pdr: I've been on the list for years, and it seems to have helped for me: http://www.tpsonline.org.uk/tps/ |
| 13:41.02 | itsbruce | From this scientific survey of two, I would hazard that Richard simply hasn't ended up on the right (wrong) lists yet. |
| 13:41.57 | itsbruce | Being registered with tps makes it easier to take action against the phone spammers, but only if they are based here, really. |
| 13:42.52 | pdr | Leeds: thanks, i have now registered |
| 13:43.41 | pdr | most of the spammers that end up on 1571 are recorded messages in seppo accents |
| 13:44.20 | Leeds | seppo? |
| 13:44.57 | Leeds | septic? |
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| 14:00.40 | pdr | Leeds: er, yeah, rhyming slang for a yank |
| 14:03.53 | Leeds | septic I know - seppo sounded ruder :-) |
| 14:05.27 | pdr | nah, not rude at all :-) |
| 14:24.28 | itsbruce | It's less rude, once you remember that Ozzies end most slang words in -o. It's friendlier than septic |
| 14:25.15 | Leeds | goodo |
| 14:25.52 | pdr | yeah, like bottlo (off license) and servo (petrol station) |
| 14:26.16 | pdr | goodo went out of usage a while ago |
| 14:26.33 | Leeds | bloody post office ivr! |
| 14:27.00 | Leeds | been on the phone over 2 and a half minutes, not heard a human yet |
| 14:31.11 | pdr | if you keep dialling 0 you will usually get through to a human |
| 14:31.28 | pdr | or if you don't dial anything at all |
| 14:35.11 | Leeds | spoke to someone who, to be honest, wasn't all that helpful |
| 14:35.35 | Leeds | so to make up for it, I'm off to find a post office :-) |
| 14:35.54 | pdr | you think you'll get better service there then?! muahaha |
| 14:36.42 | Leeds | remember, this is Yorkshire - local folk are actually friendly and helpful |
| 14:36.51 | Leeds | yes, even in the post office |
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| 15:04.02 | morsing_ | Name three really good ISPs [16:03] |
| 15:05.02 | pdr | morsing: demon, bullfrog, aaisp |
| 15:05.23 | pdr | demon at least *used* to be good according to all reports |
| 15:05.37 | pdr | bullfrog is cheap and cheerful |
| 15:05.57 | wethrin | I haven't really had a problem with Demon when using them for ADSL |
| 15:06.46 | pdr | aaisp, which i use, is very linux-friendly, and cluey, but is slightly more expensive than the other budget providers |
| 15:10.17 | Jang0 | btw, i've had demon for years and they are fine |
| 15:10.21 | Jang0 | very reliable |
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| 15:29.20 | Leeds | bullfrog? bulldog? |
| 15:29.28 | pdr | yep, that's the one |
| 15:31.06 | Leeds | I've been on bulldog for a while - I think their service depends on which platform of their's you're on |
| 15:31.45 | Leeds | their's? |
| 15:32.31 | pdr | grammer not important. irc |
| 15:33.12 | Leeds | are you dissing my grandmother? |
| 15:33.17 | pdr | they are very cheap tho, bulldog, right? |
| 15:33.25 | pdr | Leeds: i've heard she's a lovely lady |
| 15:33.26 | Leeds | yes and no |
| 15:33.31 | Leeds | pdr: she *was* |
| 15:33.36 | pdr | oh |
| 15:33.43 | pdr | sorry |
| 15:34.00 | Leeds | anyway, the bulldog service I'm on isn't so cheap in modern terms although it was when I signed up for it... |
| 15:34.43 | pdr | they do cheap phone lines too iirc |
| 15:34.44 | Leeds | the important thing missing from most of their current advertising is that to get the broadband price they're offering you have to sign up for their phone service too - not necessarily a bad thing, but it makes it a slightly more complex decision |
| 15:35.04 | pdr | ah, i see |
| 15:35.12 | Leeds | one of my ex-collegues just migrated onto them - he's very happy with the speed, a little less happy with the reliability |
| 15:35.53 | Leeds | "Leeds: pretty happy, yes. it bounces a little more than i'd like." |
| 15:36.08 | Leeds | that was him talking to me, not me talking :-) |
| 15:36.30 | pdr | hmm.. reliability is important. and announcement of and the way they deal with outages |
| 15:37.02 | Leeds | http://status.bulldogdsl.com/news.php |
| 15:37.51 | Leeds | there have been very few outages recently (the past year or so) which were in their part of the network... |
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| 15:49.20 | morsing_ | Leeds! |
| 15:51.36 | Leeds | mozrat! |
| 15:51.36 | morsing_ | Shell will time out in 60 seconds. |
| 15:55.32 | Leeds | it suddenly got dark and rainy in Leeds |
| 16:00.10 | wethrin | It's overcast here |
| 16:02.52 | morsing_ | 1 packets transmitted, 1 packets received, 0% packet loss |
| 16:11.34 | mozrat | hey Leeds! |
| 16:11.42 | Leeds | hey morsing |
| 16:11.48 | mozrat | what was the reason for your outburst at 16:53?? did I go somewhere? |
| 16:11.55 | mozrat | oh no |
| 16:12.01 | Leeds | oh yes! :-) |
| 16:12.02 | mozrat | your fast fingers again |
| 16:12.12 | Leeds | nope, just in a silly mood |
| 16:12.16 | wethrin | :51, yes |
| 16:12.21 | Leeds | indeed, :51 |
| 16:13.09 | mozrat | not by my clock |
| 16:13.54 | Leeds | well then your clock is bad and wrong |
| 16:14.12 | mozrat | Yes, yes it is |
| 16:14.42 | mozrat | leeds, ever used sparc laptops? Chum of mine was buying one from eBay |
| 16:14.58 | Leeds | tadpole or that far eastern place? either way, no, I've never used one |
| 16:15.14 | mozrat | they look quite cool |
| 16:16.10 | Leeds | in which case I guess it's the far eastern one, since the tadpole ones tend(ed) to look a little like breeze-blocks, only bigger, heavier and uglier |
| 16:21.45 | mozrat | the tadpole ones he was on about |
| 16:23.08 | Leeds | so maybe the newer tadpole ones are nicer :-) |
| 16:24.22 | mozrat | yeah, they look OK |
| 16:27.04 | Leeds | I know one or two of the ex-Watford Sun people were talking to Tadpole - dunno if anyone ended up there |
| 16:28.03 | Leeds | (and as a tangent, E4 is coming to freeview, and the sky signal here has been completely knocked out by some rain - makes a ?50 freeview card look quite a good investment) |
| 16:29.05 | mozrat | going to walk in the sun - catch you all laterer |
| 16:30.08 | Leeds | seeya |
| 16:47.48 | rhowe | hm, could someone try downloading Office 2k3 SP1 for me and tell me what kind of speeds they get? http://tinyurl.com/dqblp |
| 16:48.07 | rhowe | At home I get ~60KB/s, whereas at work I'm getting 4KB/s |
| 16:51.48 | rhowe | hm, home has dropped to 40K/s |
| 16:54.16 | rhowe | heh, just checked asterisk. I think it got a bit confused about a peer |
| 16:54.20 | rhowe | Elapsed Time: 2337h14m12s |
| 16:56.01 | rhowe | i.e. since I set him up with a SIP softphone in january :) |
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| 17:39.50 | Leeds | Blapto: evening... |
| 18:03.27 | Blapto | Hi Leeds |
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| 19:20.45 | BobtheAvenger | hey |
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| 19:31.19 | Leeds | JAV: ping |
| 19:32.51 | JAV | Leeds: pong! |
| 19:33.03 | Leeds | can you do me a favour? |
| 19:33.08 | JAV | sure |
| 19:33.53 | Leeds | apparently there's a strike at Spanish airports this weekend, and my parents are flying out on Friday... do you know anything about it? |
| 19:34.07 | JAV | no idea, let me see |
| 19:36.32 | Leeds | (my mum is just evangelising wifi to a friend on the phone :-) ) |
| 19:36.34 | JAV | 28 april & 4 may |
| 19:36.49 | JAV | they know how to choose days |
| 19:37.02 | Leeds | 28th? Thursday |
| 19:37.08 | JAV | 29 |
| 19:37.14 | JAV | no 28 |
| 19:37.36 | Leeds | ? |
| 19:37.47 | JAV | as I read it's in the handling sector |
| 19:38.17 | Leeds | sorry - can you confirm... is it Thursday 28th or Friday 29th? |
| 19:38.17 | JAV | so people will have to carry their bagagge |
| 19:38.27 | JAV | 29 & 4 |
| 19:38.29 | JAV | :D |
| 19:38.37 | Leeds | ah... so it does hit them... |
| 19:38.55 | JAV | let me see another source |
| 19:39.39 | Leeds | this is a holiday weekend, right? |
| 19:39.51 | JAV | yes |
| 19:40.02 | JAV | they arrive on 29? |
| 19:40.37 | Leeds | yes, at the moment - they're thinking of changing it to the morning of the 30th |
| 19:41.12 | JAV | i think the biggest problem will be to people who leaves from the airport |
| 19:41.27 | JAV | nobody to check in |
| 19:41.28 | Leeds | yeah? |
| 19:42.13 | JAV | people who come to spain will have to carry their own żlugagge? |
| 19:42.22 | Leeds | from the plane? :-) |
| 19:42.59 | JAV | I hope at least one of them know how to open the plane door :) |
| 19:50.08 | Leeds | and meanwhile, can you get to the mercadona website using mozilla? :-) |
| 19:50.57 | JAV | there will be great delays. no more info |
| 19:52.15 | JAV | Leeds: only to corporate web |
| 19:53.31 | Leeds | yeah, they're re-booking - going to fly either on Thursday or Saturday... I think things will still be bad on Saturday morning as well... |
| 19:53.35 | Leeds | anyway, thanks for your help |
| 19:53.40 | JAV | there's no mercadona here |
| 19:55.30 | JAV | I had to look for info in local newspapers, no main one had it |
| 20:14.32 | Leeds | I only asked because my mum was trying to get onto their website using safari on her mac and couldn't get onto the site |
| 22:24.21 | JAV | they paid you twice? |
| 22:48.51 | Leeds | once |