| 00:11.32 | JAV | which one? |
| 00:12.13 | Leeds | witches abroad, just now |
| 00:12.25 | Leeds | I've read about 6 of them this year so far |
| 00:15.32 | JAV | funny books, I've got 6-7 of the series |
| 00:16.23 | Leeds | in English or Spanish? I've got almost all of them, plus electronic (downloaded) copies, plus (downloaded) audiobook copies |
| 00:17.51 | JAV | all in spanish but one, which i found in belgium airport (fosdem 2002) |
| 00:18.17 | JAV | It's hard to find english books here |
| 00:18.38 | Leeds | that's what amazon.co.uk is for :-) |
| 00:18.56 | Leeds | I buy Israeli music online from Israel... |
| 00:20.08 | JAV | Isn't it cheaper to buy in amazon.com? |
| 00:20.26 | Leeds | I would think it's hard to follow the English - there are so many things which are very English - I think they even translate it to American for publication over there :-) |
| 00:20.48 | Leeds | I'd imagine the shipping is a lot less from the UK to Spain that from the US |
| 00:21.52 | JAV | i thought several times in buying some books, but I feel guilty. My house is crowded of unread ones |
| 00:22.04 | Leeds | heh |
| 00:23.48 | Leeds | actually, for one book, it's a similar price for shipping - for more, it's cheaper from the UK - but it'd come quicker from the UK... and for Discworld, at least, the UK edition *is* the original :-) |
| 00:23.54 | JAV | I think the books are cheaper in US so even with shipping it's better buy them there |
| 00:24.11 | JAV | :) |
| 00:24.22 | JAV | http://perso.wanadoo.es/brint/images/brujas_de_viaje.jpg |
| 00:25.00 | Leeds | that's the one :-) |
| 00:25.33 | JAV | in spain the price of books is fixed to protect the little bookshops |
| 00:25.40 | JAV | 5% max discount |
| 00:25.48 | Leeds | the latest book - Going Postal, still only available in hardback - is a bit cheaper at Amazon UK than Amazon US |
| 00:26.12 | Leeds | amazon uk list it at a 60% discount :-) |
| 00:27.15 | Leeds | I've been buying stuff from Canada recently |
| 00:28.43 | JAV | http://www.casadellibro.com/fichas/fichaautores/0,1463,PRATCHETT32TERRY,00.html?autor=PRATCHETT%2C+TERRY |
| 00:29.31 | JAV | in euros, of course :D |
| 00:29.50 | Leeds | heh "GUARDIAS, GUARDIAS" |
| 00:30.30 | Leeds | I can understand most of the titles... |
| 00:30.53 | JAV | they are english puns, aren't they? |
| 00:31.21 | Leeds | a lot are... or they refer to well known english phrases |
| 00:32.07 | Leeds | or, of course, Chinese sayings or Dutch paintings |
| 00:32.41 | Leeds | "Interesting Times" and "Night Watch" |
| 00:35.16 | JAV | this week I was looking for Smart Mobs - Howard Rheinhold, but no bookshop had it |
| 00:35.28 | Leeds | try amazon :-) |
| 00:35.36 | JAV | maybe time to spend money on amazon, yes :D |
| 00:36.17 | JAV | and the same with some oreilly book |
| 00:36.59 | Leeds | I suggest safari for that |
| 00:37.27 | Leeds | I *like* safari |
| 00:37.38 | JAV | sometimes I ask the bookshop for a book and they bring it. no shipping cost |
| 00:38.05 | JAV | that's why I doubt about amazon |
| 00:39.08 | JAV | I prefer paper, It's quieter than my pentium :D |
| 00:39.52 | Leeds | safari is good for technical stuff |
| 00:40.32 | JAV | cut&paste is one of its "pros" |
| 00:40.49 | Leeds | searching is a major pro |
| 00:41.12 | Leeds | but the biggest thing for me is the availability of so much variety so easily |
| 00:41.37 | wethrin | *hic* |
| 00:41.39 | JAV | are the books up-to-date? |
| 00:42.14 | JAV | and you get exactly *all* the book? |
| 00:42.19 | Leeds | well, the up-to-date ones are :-) |
| 00:42.26 | Leeds | and yes, it's the complete book |
| 00:43.00 | JAV | then, the big problem it's the price :D |
| 00:43.08 | Leeds | the books are maybe a month or two behind what's on the shelf at the bookstore |
| 00:43.17 | Leeds | why is the price a problem? |
| 00:43.33 | Leeds | I think it's a pretty good price for what you get |
| 00:43.37 | JAV | price > 0 = problem |
| 00:43.38 | JAV | hehe |
| 00:43.41 | Leeds | (okay, so I get it for free from work) |
| 00:43.43 | Leeds | ah well |
| 00:44.16 | Leeds | see, that's not a problem for me - I actually do pay for it, because I signed up before I got it from work - ?10 a month is worth it to me |
| 00:45.15 | Leeds | wethrin: having fun? |
| 00:45.38 | Leeds | um... isn't 10.x a private address? |
| 00:46.22 | wethrin | Arr |
| 00:46.27 | wethrin | I had Thai food |
| 00:46.33 | Leeds | thai food good |
| 00:46.50 | wethrin | Yes indeed |
| 00:47.07 | wethrin | It was really quite good food, as oppose to droolworthingly excellent |
| 00:47.38 | Leeds | better than, say, Canadian food though? |
| 00:47.44 | wethrin | Yes |
| 00:48.00 | Leeds | I mean, elk is okay, but once you've had it... |
| 00:48.29 | wethrin | Yes |
| 00:48.30 | Leeds | ah-ha - I'm apparently streaming 32kbit of silence |
| 00:48.30 | wethrin | What about beaver? |
| 00:48.35 | wethrin | John Cage? |
| 00:48.40 | Leeds | beaver is a whole different matter |
| 00:49.04 | Leeds | nope - Israeli radio, but I suspect I've found a religious station which doesn't broadcast on the sabbath :-) |
| 00:52.12 | wethrin | Is Sabbath Friday sundown to Saturday sundown, then? |
| 00:52.24 | Leeds | yes |
| 00:52.51 | wethrin | Ahha |
| 00:53.30 | Leeds | actually, with an approx 30 minute buffer added on each end |
| 00:54.11 | wethrin | To take into account differences between nominal sundown and darkness? |
| 00:55.03 | Leeds | dunno - remember that the rules were brought in before complex astrological measurements were easy |
| 00:55.15 | wethrin | Ahh, okayh |
| 00:55.26 | Leeds | the official boundary is described as "when 3 stars are visible" |
| 00:56.13 | wethrin | So how does that take into account if there's enough light pollution that you can't see the stars? |
| 00:56.24 | Leeds | it doesn't |
| 00:56.41 | Leeds | consider light pollution 2500 years ago... |
| 00:56.48 | JAV | Leeds: thinking in the money I actually spend on books... interesting. I'll try it |
| 00:57.05 | Leeds | JAV: there's a 2 week trial anyway... |
| 00:57.09 | wethrin | You could have very bright candles |
| 00:57.29 | JAV | yes, I just read it |
| 00:58.06 | rdancer | hello |
| 00:58.16 | Leeds | rdancer: good morning |
| 00:58.27 | rdancer | Leeds: indeed! 8-) |
| 00:59.13 | rdancer | no drugs since today; i hope i'm going to be ok |
| 00:59.18 | Leeds | wethrin: don't suppose you've heard anything from Cope in the past couple of days? he was feeling pretty shitty earlier in the week, and I'd like to know how he's doing |
| 00:59.29 | Leeds | rdancer: good |
| 01:00.01 | rdancer | so, Leeds is again the only official junkie of #gllug ;-) |
| 01:00.12 | Leeds | yeah, I should do some drugs now |
| 01:00.54 | wethrin | Leeds: No, I haven't, sadly |
| 01:01.43 | rdancer | ~seen Cope |
| 01:01.46 | ibot | cope is currently on #gllug (9d 3h 15m 10s). Has said a total of 940 messages. Is idling for 2d 9h 22m 46s |
| 01:32.16 | JAV | bedtime, bye! |
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| 09:22.08 | morsing | Is it true that LILO can't boot a Mac? |
| 09:26.59 | rdancer | milo |
| 09:38.25 | morsing | Ahh... good |
| 10:04.12 | SpudULike | OK, conclusion on PVC doors. They are just as secure as wooden doors but they are not as nice. With PVC you do not get the 'traditional' door closing sound that many people seem to expect from a door. If it's your own property that you want to add or maintain the value of then wooden doors are the way to go. If you just need a door then PVC will do. |
| 10:06.25 | morsing | Thanks. I'll go for PVC then I think. |
| 10:07.23 | NotHandyAndy | On Monday I hope to have some prices for you. Where did you get your original price from? |
| 10:08.29 | morsing | Homebase |
| 10:08.46 | morsing | I've been told it's easy to fit a PVC door yourself |
| 10:10.51 | NotHandyAndy | I suspect the fitting is much the same, PVC or wooden, if you have the right tools to hand - a nice sharp saw and a jig to cut the mitre joints. |
| 10:12.54 | morsing | No, with a wooden door you have to align and fit individual parts of the frame. Extremely difficult to get right. |
| 10:13.17 | morsing | PVC doors come with a one piece metal frame you just secure with screws |
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| 10:25.04 | edward | housemates are so annoying |
| 10:29.06 | NotHandyAndy | morsing: Hmm, one piece metal frame suggest one size hole, which doesn't suggest my house. Mileages may vary though. |
| 10:38.44 | rdancer | in an eshop with a third party payment clearinghouse, how do i resolve the situation when there are no more goods in the stock, except for those that have been despatched for the payment? should i set some thresholds, so that an easy DoS is not possible? |
| 11:22.14 | wethrin | Arrrr |
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| 13:10.04 | morsing | Hmm... Was just reading the source for a form I was about to submit. Was is this for? |
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| 13:14.00 | wethrin | hi gary |
| 13:14.11 | floo | bonjour madames et messuers |
| 13:14.22 | floo | hi Wethrin |
| 13:14.41 | floo | what is a young man like you doing stuck inside on a Sat? |
| 13:15.30 | wethrin | Not much |
| 13:15.57 | floo | it's a bit miserable outside |
| 13:16.14 | wethrin | Yeah |
| 13:16.17 | floo | still I might go to a fair and buy a new graphics card |
| 13:16.35 | wethrin | Or get it from dabs |
| 13:16.41 | floo | dabs? |
| 13:34.23 | Leeds | morsing: isn't that an attempt at a right-click blocler - to stop you from, say, viewing source or copying images... |
| 13:36.43 | floo | I've just been looking at dabs. not bad |
| 13:56.30 | morsing | Leeds: If so, it's not working :-) |
| 13:56.38 | morsing | Floo: Guess what! |
| 13:57.33 | morsing | My ISP swap didn't happen! And My current ISP has just charged me for another month so I'm still stuck with them. |
| 13:59.43 | floo | sorry morsing I was away... what's up? |
| 13:59.58 | morsing | See above |
| 14:00.06 | floo | what b'satards!! |
| 14:00.49 | floo | so Jason hasn't connected you then? |
| 14:01.08 | morsing | Nope. He's completely ignoring me |
| 14:01.27 | morsing | Should I pretend nothing happened and go to Bulldog? |
| 14:01.56 | floo | I have nothing but good things to say about bulldog... Leeds is probably the guy to ask |
| 14:02.17 | floo | but I have a 1mb connection and it zips through |
| 14:02.33 | floo | about 25.00 a month I think |
| 14:03.07 | floo | So are you going to ask for your activation money back? |
| 14:03.28 | morsing | I'm after something a bit different though. I'm not an average customer but I told Jason this. |
| 14:03.51 | morsing | I don't know if I actually paid that. Good point I'll check my account |
| 14:04.06 | floo | well then if he thought he could supply you with what you want he should do so |
| 14:04.28 | morsing | He can |
| 14:04.44 | floo | When were you suposed to be activated |
| 14:06.22 | morsing | Yesterday |
| 14:07.03 | floo | hmmmm |
| 14:07.13 | floo | doesn't sund very professional does it? |
| 14:07.40 | floo | have you tried his mobile? maybe there's a problem |
| 14:10.08 | morsing | He's between mobiles at the moment |
| 14:31.52 | floo | oh nice... |
| 14:32.24 | floo | I guess you're only hope is that he goes to the next gllug meeting. |
| 14:32.28 | Leeds | hmm... if I'm going to go to town, I should probably go now |
| 14:32.50 | floo | me too... are you going to TCR? |
| 14:32.51 | Leeds | and I should probably shower and have lunch first |
| 14:32.56 | floo | indeed |
| 14:32.57 | Leeds | if I go, then yes, TCR |
| 14:33.03 | floo | ah hah! |
| 14:33.24 | floo | I might see you there then? |
| 14:33.28 | Leeds | could be |
| 14:33.30 | Leeds | are you going for sure? |
| 14:33.53 | Leeds | hmm... I could shower, go, eat out after shopping - I did have a late (if small) breakfast |
| 14:34.03 | floo | no eat |
| 14:34.12 | floo | it's important |
| 14:34.50 | floo | can't say for def re TCR did promise to take nephew swimming but if not round in the 20 ins then prob will go |
| 14:34.52 | Leeds | true |
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| 14:37.22 | Leeds | microwave lunch from freezer, thereby giving time for a quick shower while cooking |
| 14:38.55 | pawel | hi guys. |
| 14:39.09 | pawel | it's nice to have a registed nick. |
| 14:39.22 | pawel | and it's easy to recover. |
| 14:39.26 | pawel | hi Leeds. |
| 14:39.33 | pawel | how is it going? |
| 14:49.21 | Leeds | floo: what do you think? |
| 14:50.41 | Leeds | pawel: considering going to TCR, but the fairs shut at 4pm AFAIK |
| 14:55.29 | Leeds | floo: ping |
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| 15:15.33 | wethrin | Foo |
| 15:25.49 | morsing | bar |
| 15:26.19 | wethrin | Beer and Thai was nice yesterday |
| 15:26.30 | morsing | Mmm... I'm on call |
| 15:26.51 | wethrin | Bah |
| 15:26.55 | wethrin | Did anyone call? |
| 15:27.11 | morsing | Lot's. Fortunately not during the night |
| 15:27.34 | wethrin | So you could have come out! |
| 15:27.54 | morsing | Nope. Not allowed |
| 15:28.01 | wethrin | They wouldn't have known |
| 15:28.47 | floo | leds if you haven't gone by now it probably is too late |
| 15:28.57 | floo | although they are open till 5pm |
| 15:29.03 | floo | nd they open tomorrow |
| 15:30.22 | floo | morsing, what's tis about 'coming out?' i had no idea... |
| 15:50.29 | morsing | Mmm... |
| 15:50.31 | morsing | Beer |
| 15:50.52 | floo | beer? |
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| 16:20.50 | George | grumble |
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| 16:46.36 | BobtheAvenger | hey all |
| 16:46.48 | Marios_ | hello Bob |
| 16:47.05 | BobtheAvenger | how are you? |
| 16:47.22 | Marios_ | I am allright....how about you ? |
| 16:47.43 | BobtheAvenger | i'm good |
| 16:48.35 | Marios_ | nice |
| 16:48.46 | BobtheAvenger | out of beer though |
| 16:49.14 | Marios_ | hehehehe |
| 16:49.25 | Marios_ | go get some |
| 16:49.38 | BobtheAvenger | underage |
| 16:49.43 | Marios_ | ohhh |
| 16:49.56 | Marios_ | ask someone older then to buy |
| 16:50.17 | BobtheAvenger | i will when someone goesa out |
| 16:50.44 | Marios_ | even though you should not drink since it is against the law ;) |
| 16:51.23 | BobtheAvenger | thats not true |
| 16:51.45 | Marios_ | lol |
| 16:51.49 | BobtheAvenger | a person may drink alcohol from the age of 5 in a public place |
| 16:52.08 | Marios_ | I am not familiar with the drinking laws in the UK |
| 16:52.11 | BobtheAvenger | *private |
| 16:53.06 | BobtheAvenger | ok |
| 17:02.07 | Marios_ | are they good ? |
| 17:08.11 | BobtheAvenger | are what good? |
| 17:08.45 | Marios_ | I was asking morsing about Planet Recruit but probably he is not there |
| 17:09.03 | BobtheAvenger | ok |
| 17:09.12 | morsing | Marios: There the best |
| 17:09.21 | morsing | They're the best! |
| 17:09.59 | BobtheAvenger | am I missing something? |
| 17:10.36 | BobtheAvenger | is this job-hunting? |
| 17:12.59 | Marios_ | planet recruit is a website for posting CVs or search for jobs |
| 17:14.02 | BobtheAvenger | ok |
| 17:18.09 | morsing | Every time I've looked for jobs (which is to frequent) the phone calls has always been because of planet recruit |
| 17:18.41 | Marios_ | I was looking for one and a half week but I never got call from them |
| 17:22.20 | BobtheAvenger | and i'm happy to say i'm not job-hunting |
| 17:24.13 | Marios_ | lol |
| 17:28.57 | BobtheAvenger | i got 2 fail school first |
| 17:29.42 | Marios_ | hehehehehee |
| 17:29.51 | Marios_ | where are located? |
| 17:30.01 | BobtheAvenger | who? |
| 17:30.10 | Marios_ | you :) |
| 17:30.21 | BobtheAvenger | edmonton area |
| 17:30.30 | Marios_ | ohhh we are very close |
| 17:30.44 | BobtheAvenger | you live in Enfield? |
| 17:30.47 | Marios_ | I am in Ponders End |
| 17:30.55 | BobtheAvenger | ok |
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| 17:31.09 | Marios_ | very close to Edmonton |
| 17:31.14 | BobtheAvenger | yer |
| 17:31.29 | BobtheAvenger | like 20minutes on the bus |
| 17:31.37 | Marios_ | yeah |
| 17:31.52 | Marios_ | but I am not native in the are at all :) |
| 17:31.58 | Marios_ | s/are/area |
| 17:32.19 | BobtheAvenger | where u from? |
| 17:32.34 | Marios_ | Cyprus |
| 17:32.46 | BobtheAvenger | which part? |
| 17:32.50 | Marios_ | and I moved here a month ago from US |
| 17:33.08 | Marios_ | part? |
| 17:33.15 | BobtheAvenger | north or south? |
| 17:33.15 | Marios_ | Republic of Cyprus |
| 17:33.50 | Marios_ | there is no recognition for Cyprus being two parts |
| 17:34.18 | BobtheAvenger | ? |
| 17:34.22 | Marios_ | there is only Republic of Cyprus and a section of Republic of Cyprus' which is occupied |
| 17:34.45 | BobtheAvenger | ok |
| 17:34.49 | Marios_ | :) |
| 17:35.29 | BobtheAvenger | you can see me passing Geography |
| 17:36.16 | Marios_ | hehehe don't worry ... not everybody is aware of the politics in the island |
| 17:37.01 | BobtheAvenger | i know that their is a Greek and a Turkish area on Cyprus |
| 17:37.30 | Marios_ | if you want me I can explain you the situation but I need a lot of time... |
| 17:37.39 | BobtheAvenger | ok |
| 17:38.13 | Marios_ | so just to summarize, 82% are Greeks and 18% are Turks....however Turkey invited the island and occupies since 1974 the 37% of island |
| 17:38.36 | BobtheAvenger | ok |
| 17:38.53 | Marios_ | so all the Greeks living in the occupied area were forced to leave in 1974 and moved to free part |
| 17:38.59 | Marios_ | (around 200.000) |
| 17:39.04 | BobtheAvenger | ok |
| 17:39.50 | BobtheAvenger | so thier is tension |
| 17:40.02 | Marios_ | there was a war in 1974 |
| 17:40.20 | BobtheAvenger | ok |
| 17:40.23 | Marios_ | now there is a Green line between the two people |
| 17:40.30 | BobtheAvenger | ok |
| 17:43.21 | BobtheAvenger | so are there like 2 separate governments, 1 for each area? |
| 17:44.42 | edward | E.T. on BBC1 |
| 17:44.49 | BobtheAvenger | now? |
| 17:58.47 | George | *yawn* |
| 17:59.08 | BobtheAvenger | you tired george? |
| 17:59.53 | George | yes. |
| 17:59.57 | Marios_ | Bob: The goverment of the Republic of Cyprus is the world recognized one. Turks proclaimed there own state but is only recognized from Turkey |
| 18:00.41 | BobtheAvenger | ok |
| 18:02.52 | Marios_ | anywayz gotta go down in London... |
| 18:02.57 | Marios_ | I will see you later |
| 18:03.19 | BobtheAvenger | peace |
| 18:03.33 | Marios_ | bye ! |
| 18:35.58 | wethrin | ping Leeds |
| 18:36.13 | wethrin | Sorry I didn't email - I was dragged away places |
| 18:42.43 | Leeds | wethrin: pong |
| 18:43.07 | Leeds | wethrin: just got in |
| 18:46.20 | wethrin | Ahh |
| 18:46.28 | wethrin | http://www.linuxmafia.com/faq/Hardware/sata.html |
| 18:47.16 | Leeds | chers |
| 18:48.16 | wethrin | np |
| 19:19.13 | Leeds | oh, for fucks sake |
| 19:21.39 | Leeds | why did no-one mention to me - like, say, the bloke on the stall when *I explicitly asked him* - that I needed a power adapter for a SATA drive? |
| 19:42.34 | *** join/#gllug zachary (~zachary@ip68-10-214-228.hr.hr.cox.net) |
| 19:43.29 | zachary | g'evening |
| 19:47.26 | BobtheAvenger | hey all |
| 19:47.57 | BobtheAvenger | peace |
| 19:47.59 | *** part/#gllug BobtheAvenger (Bob@dial81-131-17-150.in-addr.btopenworld.com) |
| 19:54.43 | George | right, my computer is ALMOST in a usable state |
| 19:55.21 | wethrin | Oh dear |
| 19:55.23 | wethrin | hi zach! |
| 19:56.58 | zachary | hey wethrin |
| 19:57.11 | wethrin | How's life? |
| 19:57.45 | zachary | Not bad, wife is in a series of deployments over the next few weeks. |
| 19:57.52 | wethrin | Where? |
| 19:59.11 | zachary | These are Navy certifications, so it's just in the local area. But in a few months they will have a six week deployment. One of the portcalls is in Scottland. |
| 19:59.53 | wethrin | Are you allowed to go with? |
| 20:00.25 | zachary | I wish. Hell, I would even stand deck-watches. |
| 20:01.21 | wethrin | Ah. So you're stuck in sunny VA? |
| 20:01.39 | zachary | partly-cloudy VA. |
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| 20:02.34 | BobtheAvenger | hey all |
| 20:03.14 | BobtheAvenger | what? |
| 20:03.20 | wethrin | Ah |
| 20:03.23 | Leeds | SATA drives don't use the same power connectors as PATA drives |
| 20:03.38 | BobtheAvenger | and? |
| 20:03.46 | wethrin | Yes. I know. ebuyer sells converters |
| 20:03.55 | zachary | Leeds, I found that one out a few days ago. |
| 20:04.05 | wethrin | Also, overclockers sells ones that take one normal power connector, and make 2x SATA powers |
| 20:04.23 | Leeds | I bought a SATA Maxtor drive and card to replace a broken Maxtor drive - the old drive is under warranty until some time in 2007 - so I'll be having fun chasing them on that |
| 20:05.05 | Leeds | well why didn't anyone tell me this before I went shopping, huh? wethrin, why didn't you mention it on the phone, huh? :-) |
| 20:05.12 | wethrin | You didn't ask! |
| 20:05.19 | wethrin | Pfff |
| 20:05.56 | zachary | Leeds, I'm shocked that you would consider them a souce. |
| 20:06.13 | Leeds | it's not ideal, but having done the fair thing for the drive and card, I'm not planning on waiting until at least Tuesday for the power cable! |
| 20:07.59 | Leeds | anyway... |
| 20:08.05 | wethrin | To PCW? |
| 20:08.35 | Leeds | nope - to help a friend with a locked-down work laptop try to put together a combo USB/Knoppix setup which lets him actually use the machine |
| 20:10.01 | wethrin | Ahh :) |
| 20:13.08 | zachary | wethrin, I'm rebuilding my tower. Once again, thanks for trading cases. The drop-down panel for the mobo is a big help. It saved my fingers from getting knackered. |
| 20:13.58 | wethrin | No problem! |
| 20:13.58 | JAV | evening! |
| 20:14.02 | wethrin | Glad you're still using it :) |
| 20:14.58 | zachary | I definately will be using it until they phase out the atx parts. I love the space in it. |
| 20:16.41 | wethrin | :) |
| 20:17.33 | zachary | just waiting until tomarrow, when I can buy a heatsink and fan for the cpu. |
| 20:18.04 | wethrin | Excellent |
| 20:18.08 | zachary | or power it up and fry eggs all day. |
| 20:18.27 | wethrin | Also good |
| 20:19.12 | zachary | I wonder if cast-iron pots have decent heat displacement. Could make stew. |
| 20:19.35 | wethrin | I think they're reasonable |
| 20:19.38 | wethrin | Steak would be better |
| 20:20.48 | zachary | Grease spatters! not good for the system. |
| 20:21.10 | wethrin | True |
| 20:27.17 | zachary | New system = Athalon XP 3200+, 1GB RAM, 240+GB HD, Gb Ethernet, 550 W power supply. |
| 20:27.58 | wethrin | You should have got a dual G5 |
| 20:28.09 | George | zachary: why not an athlon64? |
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| 20:36.46 | zachary | wethrin, too exspensive. But I wouldn't mind one of those mini macs for 600usd. |
| 20:37.04 | wethrin | ooh. Yes. |
| 20:37.39 | zachary | George, I thought about it, but it was slightly out of the price range by a few hundred. |
| 20:38.15 | zachary | I wish OSX had the network transparency that X11 does. |
| 20:38.24 | wethrin | It would be nice |
| 20:39.32 | zachary | My wife is going to buy a 12" powerbook to take with her on the ship. So I'll get the 15" :) |
| 20:39.43 | George | zachary: the 2800+ isn't much more than a 3200+ |
| 20:40.00 | wethrin | Nice! |
| 20:40.15 | George | zachary: the 15" pbook rocks until it goes wrong :) |
| 20:40.30 | wethrin | Mine hasn't gone wrong |
| 20:40.32 | wethrin | And it's 2.5 years old |
| 20:40.47 | wethrin | I'd be sorely tempted to get a G5 PB, though |
| 20:53.44 | wethrin | Ha! |
| 20:55.52 | morsing | Anyone here want to sponsor me buying a dual G5? |
| 20:55.54 | George | wethrin: well, mine screwed up an awful lot |
| 20:56.10 | George | morsing: sorry, I'm just about to buy myself two 20" lcds |
| 20:56.35 | wethrin | You obviously treated it badly |
| 20:56.44 | wethrin | Clearly you need to be more mature to be allowed to use shiny hardware |
| 20:57.10 | zachary | George, Why not buy a high-res lcd projector? |
| 20:57.21 | George | zachary: because I want an LCD, not a projector. |
| 20:57.40 | George | zachary: besides, no LCD is going to give 3200x1200 resolution |
| 20:57.48 | George | wethrin: ... |
| 20:57.53 | George | wethrin: I use my hardware a *lot* |
| 20:58.05 | zachary | use or abuse? |
| 20:58.22 | George | use. |
| 20:58.40 | George | my laptop is on 24 hours a day, it's used for about 10-16 of those hours |
| 20:59.00 | wethrin | Yes. Clearly you're not mature enough to handle hardware properly :) |
| 21:00.17 | wethrin | Fair enough |
| 21:00.19 | zachary | wethrin, want to add George to ban? |
| 21:00.34 | wethrin | zachary: Nah - his incoherent ramblings are quite amusing sometimes |
| 21:00.53 | zachary | True, it does add content to the room. |
| 21:01.16 | wethrin | True, he doesn't contribute anything useful. But then, this is IRC :) |
| 21:02.22 | zachary | Oh come one. Like I add a significant amout to the knowlege base. |
| 21:04.01 | zachary | wethrin, How's things on the employment/education side of life? |
| 21:04.13 | wethrin | Well, I'm still doing my PhD, and will be for the next 3 years or so |
| 21:05.37 | zachary | Dr. Kolb, has a nice ring to it. |
| 21:06.14 | wethrin | Yeah. I prefer Dr. Dan, personally - slightly better ring |
| 21:07.10 | zachary | No, sounds to much like a talk show host title. Or a friend of Mr. Gump. |
| 21:08.04 | wethrin | Dr. Evil |
| 21:09.03 | zachary | Dr. QuasiEvil / Dr. PsudoEvil more likely. |
| 21:11.34 | wethrin | Yes |
| 21:18.22 | pawel | wethrin: hi. |
| 21:18.32 | wethrin | hi pawel |
| 21:20.02 | pawel | wethrin: I've all plugs and cable, will do the job soon. at the moment I'm having a high fever and taking antibiotics. |
| 21:20.16 | pawel | so not able to do that. |
| 21:20.24 | pawel | ;/ |
| 21:20.30 | wethrin | Ick :-/ |
| 21:20.30 | pawel | I'm in bed now. |
| 21:20.34 | wethrin | Hope you feel better soon, then |
| 21:21.05 | pawel | yeah, thanks. I just started my company, so need to get back on track as soon as possible. |
| 21:21.10 | pawel | how are you doing? |
| 21:22.39 | wethrin | I'm okay. Leaving for Durham tomorrow |
| 21:26.26 | pawel | http://www.obsolyte.com/sunFAQ/serial/ is this a right one? |
| 21:27.01 | wethrin | Most likely |
| 21:27.07 | wethrin | The serial ports are all standard |
| 21:28.03 | pawel | not really I've seen few different. but non of them refered to use with the Sun stuff. |
| 21:28.25 | pawel | http://www.computerpartsplus.com/media/NullModem9Fto25Mwiring.gif |
| 21:28.43 | pawel | check this. for example it's different. |
| 21:34.45 | wethrin | The one on sunFAQ will be correct |
| 21:34.56 | wethrin | All Suns are correct :) |
| 22:01.41 | zachary | bye |
| 22:04.23 | morsing | bye |
