| 00:02.59 | wethrin | Mmmm |
| 00:20.31 | Leeds | okay, shopping |
| 00:20.36 | wethrin | at this time? |
| 00:21.27 | Leeds | why not? |
| 00:21.44 | Leeds | roads are empty, shop is quiet |
| 00:22.47 | wethrin | True |
| 00:22.56 | Leeds | back in a bit... |
| 00:23.25 | wethrin | k |
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| 01:03.25 | Leeds | morning flo |
| 01:04.28 | flo | hi, pretty quiet here... |
| 01:05.12 | Leeds | well, it's pretty late for people with work in the morning :-) |
| 01:05.25 | flo | true ;-) |
| 01:05.31 | eye69 | G'd evening/morning |
| 01:05.39 | flo | why are you still up? |
| 01:05.40 | wethrin | It's pretty late for people without it too |
| 01:06.01 | wethrin | night shift? |
| 01:06.05 | eye69 | Turning back my bio clock |
| 01:06.09 | wethrin | Ah |
| 01:06.12 | Leeds | I just got in from the supermarket |
| 01:06.59 | flo | I've slept all day on pretense of being ill, now I can't sleep any more... |
| 01:08.00 | Leeds | woo-hoo - demand for techies in Israel was up 63% last year from the year before! |
| 01:13.02 | eye69 | Leeds: Still thinking of moving? |
| 01:13.39 | Leeds | eye69: still thinking... still not done much about it... apart from making a start at brushing up on my Hebrew |
| 01:15.12 | Leeds | I'm sort of planning to go out there in March - was planning to think about maybe considering looking into examining the possibility of going in Feb, but work seem to want me to go to the US in Feb :-) |
| 01:15.30 | eye69 | Heh |
| 01:15.44 | Leeds | that's "go out there" as in "go look around and talk to people" not "go emigrate" |
| 01:16.00 | eye69 | Yeah, I got that. |
| 01:16.09 | Leeds | anyway, I declare bedtime |
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| 01:16.42 | eye69 | I declare downloading CSI Miami season 2. |
| 01:17.20 | Leeds | I declare planning to rewatch all of Wonderfalls from the start |
| 01:18.27 | eye69 | I declare not knowing what Wonderfalls is. |
| 01:18.48 | Leeds | very cult show :-) |
| 01:18.56 | eye69 | Ahhh. |
| 01:19.11 | Leeds | showed in the US last year - they made 13 episodes but only showed 4 |
| 01:19.46 | Leeds | Tim Minear, involved in Angel and Firefly, was involved, which is where I came across it |
| 01:21.02 | Leeds | short summary: college grad, living as a drop-out in Niagra Falls, working in a tourist shop, has 'an episode' after which inanimate (carved, stuffed, etc.) animals start talking to her |
| 01:21.48 | eye69 | Sounds...interesting....I think.... |
| 01:21.57 | Leeds | it was |
| 01:22.16 | eye69 | I guess you've seen Dead like me |
| 01:22.25 | Leeds | of course |
| 01:22.35 | eye69 | I'm just waiting for new episodes |
| 01:22.38 | Leeds | got the DVD on the way from Canada right now... |
| 01:22.48 | Leeds | um... DLM is cancelled :-( after the second series |
| 01:22.59 | eye69 | Bugger |
| 01:23.08 | Leeds | bastards |
| 01:23.32 | Leeds | although there was a little resolution at the end, at least - it wasn't just cut off like, say, Firefly |
| 01:25.10 | Leeds | firefly makes me angry - there was so much potential, so many interesting stories half-told... |
| 01:46.32 | evangineer | yes, firefly had a certain flavour |
| 01:48.27 | Leeds | there is the film coming, of course |
| 01:50.09 | evangineer | yah, serenity |
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| 08:13.58 | Leeds | morning mozrat |
| 08:14.12 | Leeds | or not |
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| 08:26.04 | Cope | good morning |
| 08:27.16 | Leeds | hi |
| 08:29.26 | Cope | could someone explain what all the fuss is with the macdonalds mini? |
| 08:29.41 | Cope | so its a small computer. wow. |
| 08:29.55 | Cope | am I missing something? |
| 08:30.06 | Leeds | it's very very small |
| 08:30.22 | Leeds | it's a proper consumer machine - not a hacker's toy |
| 08:30.27 | Leeds | it's not x86 |
| 08:30.35 | Leeds | it runs cool mac software |
| 08:30.51 | Leeds | it's pretty cheap |
| 08:31.16 | Cope | gosh that is small |
| 08:31.25 | Cope | only just bigger than my cd case |
| 08:31.38 | Leeds | right |
| 08:32.12 | Cope | are they available in the uk? |
| 08:32.20 | Cope | $499 on the apple site |
| 08:32.24 | Leeds | they will be, in a week or so |
| 08:32.54 | Leeds | $469 with Sun employee discount :-) it's an important difference - takes it down to just under ?250 in theory |
| 08:33.00 | Leeds | maybe a couple of weeks |
| 08:34.13 | highbury | does it support all formats of DVD e.g. +- RW and dual-layer ? |
| 08:34.14 | mozrat | BUT..... you have to buy a apple keyboard |
| 08:34.42 | mozrat | which is 40 quid |
| 08:34.45 | Leeds | highbury: the standard spec is a DVD-reader, CDRW |
| 08:34.56 | mozrat | or thereabouts |
| 08:34.57 | Leeds | mozrat: no you don't - you can use any USB keyboard |
| 08:35.01 | highbury | can it run without a keyboard? ie. run as a server |
| 08:35.34 | highbury | the apple uk site says £339 |
| 08:35.44 | Leeds | morsing: apparently the windows key(s) work as well |
| 08:36.14 | Leeds | highbury: it should work without a keyboard, I think - I know the Apple remote desktop thing recently gained vnc support |
| 08:36.35 | Leeds | highbury: ?329 is the discounted price - not really worth it... |
| 08:37.22 | mozrat | mozrat != mozrat ) |
| 08:37.30 | mozrat | er |
| 08:37.39 | mozrat | morsing != mozrat :) |
| 08:37.42 | Leeds | it's still nearly ?200 cheaper than the bottom emac - the previous cheapest Mac - plenty of slack there to buy keyboard/mouse/screen |
| 08:37.48 | Leeds | mozrat: yeah yeah |
| 08:38.19 | Leeds | I'm thinking that if I end up going to the US next month, I might have to slip one in my suitcase :-) |
| 08:41.36 | mozrat | i would! |
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| 08:52.51 | mozrat | moin mart |
| 09:00.41 | morsing | Leeds: Does it run AIX? |
| 09:02.15 | SlayerXP | morning mozrat, chaps, chapesses and Leeds |
| 09:02.52 | morsing | morning |
| 09:03.02 | mozrat | hallo!! |
| 09:08.01 | mozrat | bugger |
| 09:08.19 | SlayerXP | badger |
| 09:08.59 | mozrat | big drawback of learning the dvorak keyboard |
| 09:09.24 | SlayerXP | what? badgers? |
| 09:09.35 | mozrat | vi navigation doesnt work |
| 09:09.55 | SlayerXP | not badger pheremone problems, then |
| 09:10.19 | mozrat | no |
| 09:10.46 | mozrat | just very slow typing |
| 09:11.06 | mozrat | and slow vi editing |
| 09:11.58 | SlayerXP | do what i do when is oslo |
| 09:12.10 | SlayerXP | load a uk keymap and don't look down |
| 09:13.01 | morsing | Yuck - Oslo |
| 09:13.03 | mozrat | i'm trying to learn dvorak though |
| 09:20.13 | Leeds | morsing: AIX or A/UX? |
| 09:22.01 | Leeds | so, I went to pick up a couple of things from the post office - one of which was a little parcel with a couple of CDs I'd ordered from Israel... got back to the car, was going to put one on, but Stairway to Heaven was on the radio, so I thought I'd wait - got almost all the way home before the song ended! :-) |
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| 09:24.34 | JD | moin people |
| 09:24.43 | Leeds | morning JD |
| 09:25.58 | Leeds | argh |
| 09:26.37 | JD | yes, that's what I thought |
| 09:26.54 | Leeds | no, not that :-) |
| 09:27.07 | Leeds | I seem to have a new CD stuck in my Mac... |
| 09:29.24 | JD | oops |
| 09:31.26 | Leeds | okay, I've got to reboot to try to clear this... |
| 09:31.35 | Leeds | re FOSDEM, yes, people are planning on going |
| 09:34.44 | morsing | Leeds: AIX |
| 09:35.17 | gregj | when is that FOSDEM and where ? |
| 09:35.29 | morsing | And accomodation? |
| 09:39.57 | JD | brussels feb 25-27th |
| 09:40.16 | JD | the conference is sat and sun, but we normally go on the Friday morning |
| 09:41.23 | morsing | Where's a good place to stay? |
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| 09:45.03 | morsing | Leeds! |
| 09:45.33 | Cope | Burnley! |
| 09:45.41 | morsing | Bristol! |
| 09:47.20 | JD | clearly Brighton |
| 09:47.27 | JD | which fyi is where I now live |
| 09:48.03 | JD | Leeds: has any accomodation been organised? |
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| 09:50.18 | Leeds | sorry, I know someone said something to me, but I don't know who said what |
| 09:50.42 | JD | Leeds: what, just now? |
| 09:50.49 | Leeds | since I rebooted |
| 09:50.54 | JD | 09:48:03 < JD> Leeds: has any accomodation been organised? |
| 09:51.07 | JD | 09:45:04 < morsing> Leeds! |
| 09:51.08 | Leeds | ah... no, not that I'm aware of... |
| 09:51.14 | Leeds | mozrat! |
| 09:51.31 | mozrat | yes?? |
| 09:51.47 | Leeds | morsing! |
| 09:51.48 | Leeds | :-) |
| 09:51.51 | morsing | JD! |
| 09:51.59 | morsing | Watford! |
| 09:51.59 | JD | morsing: ? |
| 09:52.11 | Leeds | let me know anytime the mozrat/morsing confusions stops being funny... |
| 09:52.21 | morsing | Confusion? |
| 09:52.34 | JD | Leeds: can't see that stopping for some time yet |
| 09:52.46 | Leeds | you two being such similar people with such similar names and all :-) |
| 09:52.52 | mozrat | ahh so you are doing it on purpose now?? |
| 09:53.00 | Leeds | sometimes, yes |
| 09:53.20 | morsing | And irssi don't support /who |
| 09:53.29 | SlayerXP | morsing: /nick SlayerCE |
| 09:53.33 | Leeds | anyway, my CD is now happily importing and, impressively, the track names and stuff have come up in Hebrew, which I've not seen before |
| 09:53.34 | SlayerXP | mozrat: /nick SlayerME |
| 09:53.35 | mozrat | no don't think we've met |
| 09:54.05 | morsing | SlayerXP: Don't work |
| 09:54.12 | mozrat | i've only met cope and leeds |
| 09:54.23 | morsing | You must have a boring life... |
| 09:54.25 | mozrat | oh and wethrin |
| 09:54.30 | Leeds | mozrat: so are you Lonixing? |
| 09:55.05 | mozrat | 'fraid i am training tonight |
| 09:55.17 | Leeds | bah, fit people |
| 09:55.22 | mozrat | i may do after |
| 09:55.24 | eye69 | Morning. |
| 09:55.27 | morsing | morning |
| 09:55.31 | Leeds | hey eye69 |
| 09:55.41 | eye69 | Hello. |
| 09:57.15 | Leeds | eye69: you're not Lonixing, I assume :-) |
| 09:59.08 | eye69 | Heh, no...cheap airplanetickets aside... |
| 09:59.31 | Leeds | you just don't like us any more - admit it |
| 09:59.58 | eye69 | Although I do live in the city with the cheapest travel to London if I were to go there. |
| 10:01.30 | eye69 | 15 quid including tax |
| 10:01.42 | Leeds | each way, I assume |
| 10:01.52 | eye69 | Yeah |
| 10:02.01 | Leeds | still remarkably cheap |
| 10:03.12 | eye69 | Well, that's the cheapest price... |
| 10:03.22 | eye69 | The typical price is a lot higher. |
| 10:03.44 | Leeds | fair point |
| 10:05.56 | morsing | eye69: when are we having a pub meet in Stockholm? |
| 10:06.13 | eye69 | That's up to you to decide. :) |
| 10:06.31 | eye69 | I have an hour by train to Sthlm. |
| 10:30.18 | Leeds | slight downside to the cool 'songs with Hebrew names' plan - the iPod doesn't display Hebrew... |
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| 10:56.40 | morsing | Does anyone know of a tool to monitor and give availability statistics of an Internet server? |
| 10:57.29 | eye69 | Availability as in ping response? |
| 10:57.45 | eye69 | Or general server monitoring? For that I use Nagios. |
| 11:02.58 | morsing | I would like stats on how many minutes/percent down time my webserver, mailserver and broadband line has |
| 11:03.01 | morsing | Nagios? |
| 11:03.15 | morsing | Does that give statistics as well? |
| 11:03.56 | mozrat | nagios++ |
| 11:04.32 | eye69 | Yes, it does. |
| 11:08.18 | morsing | Nice. Can I see an example somewhere? |
| 11:13.54 | mozrat | http://www.nagios.org/demo.php |
| 11:15.32 | morsing | mozrat: What's the user name password? |
| 11:15.46 | morsing | Sorry! |
| 11:15.54 | mozrat | guest; guest |
| 11:16.01 | morsing | Yeah, found it |
| 11:16.03 | mozrat | :) |
| 11:19.05 | mozrat | apparently we are currently monitoring 2000 hosts in nagios |
| 11:20.36 | morsing | Hmm... It's a bit confusing. |
| 11:21.05 | morsing | I can't find anywhere where is says "webserver has been available 94% of December" |
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| 11:22.19 | mozrat | reporting > availability |
| 11:23.51 | mozrat | host > select the host you want |
| 11:24.58 | morsing | Ahh... 100% downtime |
| 11:25.56 | mozrat | theres a "thing" about the reporting module |
| 11:27.16 | mozrat | if it couldn't detect the initial status of the host it reports it incorrectly |
| 11:28.52 | mozrat | so when you build the report there is an option "assume initial states" and "first assumed state" |
| 11:29.40 | mozrat | (i'm beginning to regret using dvorak today) |
| 11:29.48 | mozrat | so damn slow |
| 11:46.03 | Leeds | well that's impressive... bought a CD from amazon.ca at the weekend, paid for medium-fast shipping ('expidited', not 'courier') and DHL just delivered it |
| 12:22.20 | wethrin | Ooh. A JD in the house |
| 12:31.26 | JD | wethrin: indeed |
| 12:31.36 | JD | I'm fosdem-info-gathering |
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| 12:34.32 | morsing | beer |
| 12:35.03 | Leeds | are you offering? |
| 12:35.38 | morsing | No... dreaming. |
| 12:44.40 | wethrin | JD: I'm going. Want to stay with the Gllug lot in the hostel, or have you other plans? |
| 12:45.00 | JD | I'm going to be in a hostel with the debian people |
| 12:45.08 | JD | there is a good chance it will be the same hostel |
| 12:45.24 | wethrin | Bah. You Debian people suck :-P |
| 12:45.32 | wethrin | All so antisocial with everyone else |
| 12:45.43 | wethrin | What time Eurostar will you be taking? |
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| 12:56.19 | morsing | wethrin: Which Gllug hostel is that? |
| 13:01.31 | JAV | good afternoon |
| 13:02.49 | wethrin | morsing: The Jacques Grel |
| 13:03.20 | wethrin | *Brel |
| 13:18.28 | morsing | http://www.jacquesbrel.be/ |
| 13:19.17 | morsing | wethrin: Have we booked as a group? |
| 13:23.16 | evangineer | hmm, a JD |
| 13:23.53 | evangineer | aren't you at the runtime collective these days or am I mixing you up with someone else? |
| 13:26.23 | JD | evangineer: I am |
| 13:26.32 | JD | evangineer: how do you know us? |
| 13:30.42 | JD | hmm someone stole evangineer |
| 13:30.47 | JD | does he work at redhat ? |
| 13:30.54 | JD | anyone? anyone? |
| 13:31.46 | morsing | No he doesn't |
| 13:32.02 | Cope | hello JD |
| 13:32.07 | Cope | nice to see you :) |
| 13:32.10 | JD | hiya cope |
| 13:33.05 | JD | morsing: erm did you look at that webpage? |
| 13:33.13 | JD | there is nothing about a hostel there |
| 13:34.33 | evangineer | JD: I'm an independent operator, I've known about RC for yonks! I remember them from the days they were using the original tcl version of ACS |
| 13:35.01 | JD | evangineer: :) |
| 13:37.49 | morsing | JD: What webpage? |
| 13:38.04 | morsing | Oh... Yes, that's what confused me! |
| 13:39.06 | evangineer | generally the idea is to post helpful or amusing links! ;-) |
| 13:39.22 | morsing | Wasn't it amusing? |
| 13:40.21 | Cope | evangineer: 'independent operator' - cool title :) |
| 13:40.28 | evangineer | not particularly |
| 13:40.41 | Cope | well I thought so |
| 13:40.41 | evangineer | Cope, just came up with it! |
| 13:40.58 | evangineer | sorry, I was referring to morsing's remark |
| 13:41.07 | Cope | ah |
| 13:41.22 | evangineer | as in his link wasn't particularly amusing |
| 13:41.31 | evangineer | but yes it is a cool title |
| 13:41.33 | Cope | and I didn't thing morsing's link was amusing either |
| 13:42.06 | Cope | :) |
| 13:48.13 | evangineer | Cope: do you know about IBM's new patent licensing for FOSS? http://www.groklaw.net/article.php?story=20050110235654673 |
| 13:54.13 | evangineer | the vulture's view http://www.theregister.co.uk/2005/01/11/ibm_patent_donation/ |
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| 14:10.47 | morsing | http://www.laj.be/html/en/hostels/brel/aubergesbrel_en05.php |
| 14:10.55 | morsing | I promise it's relevant this time! |
| 14:12.13 | morsing | How many points do I get for that? |
| 14:14.28 | Cope | 3 |
| 14:15.29 | mozrat | can anyone here recommend me a wiki that uses the filesystem as it's store?? |
| 14:16.49 | Leeds | morsing: um, moinmoin? |
| 14:16.55 | Leeds | argh! |
| 14:17.00 | Leeds | mozrat: !!!! moinmoin |
| 14:17.27 | mozrat | oooohhh |
| 14:17.28 | wethrin | ping morsing |
| 14:17.47 | mozrat | i assumed it aws a db back end |
| 14:17.52 | evangineer | moinmoin is definitely the way to go |
| 14:18.25 | Leeds | nope, plain filesystem |
| 14:18.30 | mozrat | fan-dabby-dozzy |
| 14:18.34 | evangineer | like Leeds said |
| 14:18.36 | morsing | pong wethrin |
| 14:18.46 | wethrin | We tend to book as a group, but no-one's booked yet |
| 14:18.52 | wethrin | You want to stay in the Hostel? |
| 14:19.08 | Leeds | evangineer: by the way, I bumped into some heavy vandalism of wikipedia last night - so it's not just us :-( their site was so slow that I couldn't get in to fix it though :-( |
| 14:19.31 | wethrin | Argh |
| 14:19.54 | evangineer | yes, wikispam is becoming very prevalent. in some cases, bots are clearly being used |
| 14:19.54 | morsing | wethrin: Yes please |
| 14:20.10 | evangineer | wikipedia has been heavily targeted by bots in the past |
| 14:20.54 | evangineer | there has also been steep growth in blog comment spam |
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| 14:21.51 | Cope | fuckers |
| 14:21.55 | morsing | Wethrin: Are you booking? |
| 14:22.05 | evangineer | popular blog software like movable type have been hit particularly hard by comment spam |
| 14:22.18 | wethrin | morsing: Not sure |
| 14:22.27 | wethrin | If no-one else moves for it in the next 2 weeks or so, then yes |
| 14:22.32 | wethrin | But I want to wait for Durhamites too |
| 14:22.41 | wethrin | Cope: You're coming with us to FOSDEM? |
| 14:22.52 | evangineer | movable type and blogger have moved toward authenticating commenters |
| 14:23.03 | Cope | I would love to, but I haven't discussed it with laomao yet. |
| 14:23.13 | Cope | wethrin: remind me of the date |
| 14:23.15 | evangineer | Cope, have you seen the latest moinmoin yet? |
| 14:23.19 | morsing | Wethrin: I found Aylesbury LUG |
| 14:23.21 | wethrin | 26th/27th Feb (I think) |
| 14:23.24 | Cope | probably not |
| 14:23.25 | wethrin | morsing: Excellent. Are you it? |
| 14:23.34 | wethrin | evangineer: You coming? |
| 14:23.40 | morsing | No, I emailed with the founder |
| 14:23.46 | wethrin | Ahh |
| 14:24.17 | evangineer | wethrin, would like to but either I'll be too busy, won't have money or will be in india! |
| 14:24.27 | wethrin | Pah! |
| 14:26.12 | Leeds | Cope: see wiki.gllug.org.uk :-) |
| 14:26.36 | evangineer | wethrin, yes how do you think I've been managing! ;-) |
| 14:30.22 | wethrin | Ahh |
| 14:31.16 | mozrat | c'mon consume.net........ how does it take to get a server back up and running?? |
| 14:31.22 | Cope | oh! |
| 14:31.26 | Cope | that's LOADS better |
| 14:32.57 | Cope | wethrin: theoretically, yes, fosdem is good to fo |
| 14:32.58 | Cope | go |
| 14:34.23 | wethrin | Cope: Hurrah |
| 14:34.29 | wethrin | Youth Hostel, or hotel? |
| 14:34.36 | Cope | cheap as possible |
| 14:35.04 | wethrin | YHA is 15EUR/night |
| 14:35.09 | Cope | bonza |
| 14:35.14 | wethrin | Hotel is about 50-60 |
| 14:35.40 | Cope | ewww |
| 14:35.50 | wethrin | Right, so I've currently got you and morsing down. Spud said he can't come |
| 14:36.24 | Cope | Leeds will do the hotel, we know he will. |
| 14:36.30 | Cope | He's too posh. |
| 14:36.31 | Leeds | amongst other things, acommodation and lunch |
| 14:37.52 | wethrin | Yes. And he's overpaid, clearly :) |
| 14:38.56 | Cope | us plebs are beneath him |
| 14:39.07 | wethrin | YEs |
| 14:39.40 | Leeds | anyway, I think that 36-hour shipping from Canada, for a cost which makes a CD and shipping come to a total of about 10.50 GBP, is pretty impressive |
| 14:40.00 | Leeds | yes, you are |
| 14:40.08 | Cope | Did I miss some context? |
| 14:41.28 | morsing | Wethrin: What about stealing stuff from the hostel? |
| 14:42.28 | George | how rude |
| 14:42.39 | wethrin | morsing: Lots of people are doing hotel |
| 14:42.44 | George | the security people at my school came in my room while I wasn't here and security marked my laptop without my permission |
| 14:43.36 | wethrin | Ha |
| 14:44.02 | George | call me a trouble maker but I regard that as bloody rude |
| 14:44.09 | wethrin | You're a trouble maker |
| 14:44.12 | wethrin | Why should it be rude? |
| 14:44.19 | wethrin | Your equipment on school property |
| 14:44.24 | George | I DON'T WANT STICKERS ON MY LAPTOP |
| 14:44.29 | wethrin | They're entitled to |
| 14:44.34 | SlayerXP | did you tell them in writing? |
| 14:44.39 | George | no. |
| 14:44.40 | wethrin | Also, they're entitled to take your power supply away and PAC test it |
| 14:44.50 | George | wethrin: all my supplies are PAT tested. |
| 14:45.40 | SlayerXP | George: seems like your blaming the security guys for your own negligence |
| 14:45.49 | SlayerXP | as you put it, "how rude" |
| 14:46.00 | evangineer | mac mini could be just the thing for a small office server |
| 14:46.10 | wethrin | Yes |
| 14:46.48 | SlayerXP | kids these days *tsk* |
| 14:47.09 | Cope | evangineer: you are joking? |
| 14:47.38 | evangineer | for an office of 4-5 users |
| 14:47.47 | Cope | how many disks can you put in it? |
| 14:47.59 | Leeds | 1 |
| 14:48.01 | Leeds | 2.5inch |
| 14:48.09 | Cope | mmm, nice redundancy and reliability |
| 14:48.20 | evangineer | presumably it has usb/firewire |
| 14:48.27 | Cope | yes |
| 14:48.30 | Leeds | yes |
| 14:48.58 | wethrin | morsing: If you want to do hotel, that's fine. Just let me know if you want to do hostel |
| 14:49.04 | evangineer | anyway, just thinking out loud |
| 14:49.27 | wethrin | Cope: Most office servers will just have one IDE disk in them |
| 14:49.44 | Cope | based on what data sample? |
| 14:49.45 | Leeds | it does have a CD-writer for data backup |
| 14:49.58 | Cope | mmm, cd-based backups... niiice. |
| 14:50.04 | Cope | come on guys - get real. |
| 14:50.14 | Leeds | anyway, it's not meant to be a server |
| 14:50.19 | Cope | indeed |
| 14:50.45 | evangineer | of course not, I just like to think of ways of abusing hardware |
| 14:50.57 | wethrin | Cope: Some of the smaller places I've been in |
| 14:51.13 | evangineer | sometimes the ideas are inspired, most of the time they are crap |
| 14:51.26 | Cope | where some is 2 or 3? Not really a big enough sample to declare 'most office servers' |
| 14:51.50 | wethrin | Most in my experience of small (< ~30 people) offices |
| 14:51.50 | wethrin | :) |
| 14:52.24 | wethrin | To be fair, it could be one SCSI disk |
| 14:52.35 | George | SlayerXP: for MY negligence? |
| 14:52.35 | Cope | umm... what time are people convening for lonix? |
| 14:52.41 | Cope | George: indeed |
| 14:52.55 | George | WHAT? |
| 14:53.11 | Cope | I think I said... |
| 14:53.12 | evangineer | 6pm is what it said on the notice |
| 14:53.18 | SlayerXP | if you leave unmarked laptops around, what do you expect? |
| 14:53.26 | Cope | George: indeed |
| 14:53.33 | George | thinking it's a tad rude for some security dudes to piss around with my laptop is blaming them for my negligence? |
| 14:53.40 | George | SlayerXP: it's still rude. |
| 14:53.51 | SlayerXP | on your part, yes, I said. |
| 14:53.58 | George | why on my part? |
| 14:54.14 | SlayerXP | you're making their job difficult |
| 14:54.19 | George | wtf |
| 14:54.23 | SlayerXP | leaving unmarked kit around the place |
| 14:54.27 | George | it was sitting on my desk, in my room. |
| 14:54.27 | wethrin | Cope: About 6ish |
| 14:54.30 | Cope | you should have the decency to inform the staff that you have unmarked electrical equipment in their buildings. |
| 14:54.36 | Leeds | I will probably be lonixing a little later |
| 14:54.39 | George | Cope: it's not actually unmarked |
| 14:54.48 | George | Cope: it's been marked before, but I got the marking done under the battery |
| 14:55.08 | Cope | ok |
| 14:55.26 | George | but I still think it's rude that they fiddled with my laptop without asking me |
| 14:55.46 | Cope | George: Did they send out a notice beforehand? |
| 14:55.52 | Cope | George: to the whole school? |
| 14:56.42 | George | Cope: no |
| 14:56.44 | George | no warning at all |
| 14:56.46 | George | they just did it |
| 14:57.37 | George | not even an opportunity to say "no, I'll risk it being nicked" or "I've had it done before so don't bother" |
| 14:59.02 | Cope | hmm |
| 15:00.22 | George | besides, security marking is a pointless exercise |
| 15:00.30 | George | the only use of security marking is for tracing stolen items |
| 15:00.48 | George | if they put the marking in a fucking obvious place, then it's dead easy for the thief to get some alcohol out and dissolve the ink up |
| 15:01.11 | George | whereas if it's hidden under the battery compartment, it actually stands some sort of chance |
| 15:01.32 | George | oh well |
| 15:01.48 | George | in other news Linux Mag have finally sent me a PDF typeset copy of my article to proofread |
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| 15:17.00 | wethrin | Oh dear. They're really scraping the barrel with authors now :) |
| 15:17.22 | George | wethrin: feck off |
| 15:17.25 | George | wethrin: I voluteered |
| 15:17.28 | George | er, volunteered |
| 15:17.41 | George | and I'll invoice them next month |
| 15:18.41 | SlayerXP | what's the article about? |
| 15:18.51 | morsing | KDE? |
| 15:19.00 | SlayerXP | kyoysimulator - the next evolution of Yoyotasticity |
| 15:19.05 | SlayerXP | kyoyo |
| 15:19.22 | SlayerXP | kmyveryfirstkdeapp |
| 15:19.48 | SlayerXP | ktooyoungtogetservedinaclub |
| 15:19.54 | SlayerXP | knofriends? |
| 15:19.54 | George | Qt |
| 15:20.16 | George | clubs suck. |
| 15:20.36 | SlayerXP | oh, I see |
| 15:20.40 | SlayerXP | you wrote an info box |
| 15:20.48 | SlayerXP | "Qt - A widget set used by KDE" |
| 15:20.54 | George | ? |
| 15:20.56 | SlayerXP | penny a word is it? |
| 15:21.07 | SlayerXP | that's a whole boiled sweet |
| 15:21.12 | George | it's about 4500 words long; 6-7 pages |
| 15:21.56 | SlayerXP | baiting george is too easy :) |
| 15:23.26 | morsing | Mmm... bait |
| 15:23.27 | SlayerXP | the last mag article I wrote got utterly butchered by the editor |
| 15:23.35 | SlayerXP | even after the proof version |
| 15:25.30 | SlayerXP | http://www.clues.ltd.uk/Clues-on-open-source.pdf |
| 15:26.29 | Leeds | hmm... lunch |
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| 15:39.00 | Cope | Managing Director, eh? |
| 15:41.38 | morsing | Cope: Are you not coming? |
| 16:16.36 | Leeds | lunch... |
| 16:16.42 | Leeds | drugs... |
| 16:21.44 | morsing | Mmm... Drugs |
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| 16:23.40 | Leeds | tasty |
| 16:33.29 | mozrat | "US Intelligence officials say the search for weapons of mass destruction in Iraq is over" |
| 16:33.31 | wethrin | Cope: :( |
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| 16:33.58 | mozrat | US Army Sarg #1 "You find any?" |
| 16:34.15 | mozrat | US Army Sarg #2 "Nah, nada, zip" |
| 16:34.23 | mozrat | US Army Sarg #1 "Me either" |
| 16:52.54 | laomao | hello, cope |
| 16:53.27 | mozrat | laomao: I think Cope sloped off not feeling very well :( |
| 16:54.17 | Leeds | yeah, he should be on his way home |
| 17:01.16 | morsing | :( |
| 17:05.49 | Leeds | heh... someone on internal IRC has asked msn driving directions how to get from Haugesund to Trondheim, both in Norway... it sent him via a ferry to Newcastle, channel tunnel, up through France, Belgium, Holland, Germany, Denmark and Sweden |
| 17:07.13 | mozrat | Thats the "shortcut" |
| 17:07.35 | Marios_ | there is less trafic going that way |
| 17:08.03 | Leeds | ah! apparently that's just the shortest route... if you take the quickest, you just go to Newcastle, then back to Norway! |
| 17:08.21 | Marios_ | lol |
| 17:09.45 | Leeds | for some reason, it's convinced the best routes go by ferry to Newcastle :-) |
| 17:36.53 | mozrat | I can't think of ANY good reason to go to Newcastle |
| 17:37.21 | Leeds | geordie birds |
| 17:37.27 | mozrat | true |
| 17:37.36 | mozrat | I did think of that as soon as I hit enter |
| 17:37.42 | Leeds | cute accent and very few clothes... |
| 17:37.50 | Leeds | my sister was at uni up there ;-) |
| 17:37.58 | mozrat | yes... bravery in the face of very cold weather |
| 17:38.06 | mozrat | Geordie birds do in fact rock |
| 17:38.12 | mozrat | but not IN newcastle |
| 17:38.44 | Leeds | good point |
| 17:39.01 | Leeds | maybe wethrin has a better idea... he almost lives there |
| 18:07.49 | mozrat | does `find / -size 20480c` find all files that ARE 2 MB or files that are 2Mb and over? |
| 18:08.42 | Leeds | good question |
| 18:09.04 | Leeds | I'd think exact (actually, exact number of blocks, apparently) |
| 18:09.18 | Leeds | but there should be a -bigger-than option |
| 18:09.29 | mozrat | I want to find large files |
| 18:09.37 | mozrat | help me Obi-Wan |
| 18:09.41 | Leeds | find everything, sort and snip |
| 18:09.58 | mozrat | you can't do it within find ? |
| 18:10.12 | Leeds | probably... |
| 18:10.20 | mozrat | apparently find / -size +20480c |
| 18:10.25 | mozrat | have fun |
| 18:10.26 | Leeds | ah, that makes sense |
| 18:10.28 | Leeds | bye |
| 18:10.33 | mozrat | bye |
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