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01:44.10 | Katrina | dost thou have nowt better to do? |
01:44.41 | George | you're mixing old english with northern english :P |
01:45.16 | Katrina | you didn't answer the question :) |
01:45.24 | George | and of course I do |
01:45.28 | George | I'm trolling on #KDE-Devel |
01:50.10 | George | Katrina: what are you doing up this late anyway? :P |
01:50.20 | Katrina | at the moment, not a lot |
01:50.29 | George | apart from getting force fed KDE apps |
01:51.10 | Katrina | listening to christian music. far too hot to sleep :/ |
01:51.27 | George | christian music? |
01:53.21 | Katrina | yup |
01:53.45 | Katrina | you know, music in which people worship God and talk about christian things |
01:53.57 | Katrina | that's about it really |
01:54.02 | George | ok. |
01:54.05 | George | wibble |
01:54.08 | Katrina | idd |
01:55.12 | Katrina | eddie izzard has something to say about that ;) |
01:55.25 | George | heh. |
01:55.30 | George | yeah, but he's a transvestite. |
01:55.31 | George | :P |
01:55.44 | George | albeit a very funny transvestite. |
01:55.53 | Katrina | "God Save the Queen. Now the Queen lives in a very big house, she has barbed wire outside, and people with guns in front of that. That’s one saved fucking queen, I’ll tell you." |
01:56.05 | George | LOL |
01:56.08 | Katrina | what's wrong with men wearing women's clothing? :P |
01:56.22 | Katrina | why is it even called men and women's clothing |
01:56.25 | Katrina | they're just clothes :) |
01:56.40 | Katrina | girls go about wearing "men's" clothes all the time and no-one bats an eyelid |
01:56.53 | George | yeah, well, all girls are transvestites. |
01:56.54 | George | :P |
01:58.14 | Katrina | :) |
01:58.38 | Katrina | yes, and? :) |
01:58.51 | Katrina | I'm a lot of other things as well :) |
01:58.51 | George | you.. *shudder* transvestite! |
01:59.05 | Katrina | if i told you half of what i am you'd be running screaming ;) |
01:59.41 | George | you're not 1351 on the mailing list are you? |
02:00.00 | Katrina | got no idea what you're talking about, so no :) |
02:00.08 | George | ok |
02:00.41 | George | there was someone that claimed to be an attempted porn star with blue hair etc called "Kat" that posted on the ml |
02:01.59 | Katrina | intriguing |
02:02.10 | George | thought it might be you :P |
02:02.14 | Katrina | naw :) |
02:03.29 | Katrina | FUCKING WASS |
02:03.33 | Katrina | waps* |
02:03.34 | Katrina | wasps |
02:03.36 | Katrina | okay i give up |
02:03.43 | George | get a nuke |
02:03.48 | George | that ought to shift 'em |
02:03.55 | George | I'm sure you can get some from the soviets |
02:03.56 | George | :P |
02:05.05 | Katrina | yes, because I'm russian :) |
02:05.10 | George | you are? |
02:05.31 | Katrina | i could be |
02:05.41 | George | do you have a beard? |
02:06.26 | Katrina | nope |
02:06.34 | George | then you can hardly be russian :P |
02:06.35 | Katrina | do you? :) |
02:06.38 | George | no. |
02:06.45 | Katrina | then you must be russian :) |
02:06.55 | George | hah |
02:16.58 | George | THUNDER!!!!!!!!!!!!! |
02:20.51 | Katrina | LIGHTNING |
02:20.59 | Katrina | CATS? |
02:21.02 | Katrina | thunder cats ruled :) |
02:21.05 | George | no, Kats |
02:21.10 | George | bahaha |
02:21.10 | George | KDE! |
02:26.06 | Katrina | KDIE |
02:26.16 | George | KDIE? |
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05:38.31 | KDSKBENT | i am new to linux and i am getting the following error at boiot time and everytime i login. my kernel is 2.6.7-1.494.2.2 and have all the updates installed. what am i doing wrong?. shall i reinstall fedora core2 ? |
05:41.53 | KDSKBENT | the actual error i get is this... KDSKBENT: Invalid argument failed to bind key 255 to value 1228 KDSKBENT: Invalid argument failed to bind key 255 to value 2003 |
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06:31.22 | mozrat | moi Leeds |
06:32.08 | Leeds | morning |
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07:57.49 | mozrat | Good morning peeps |
07:59.33 | SlayerXP | morning |
08:00.32 | Trel | morning |
08:01.31 | Tarragon | Moin |
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08:34.57 | Number9 | hi there |
08:35.02 | Number9 | you guys live in london? |
08:35.07 | RevRob | Yup |
08:35.09 | Tarragon | hi #9 |
08:35.10 | Number9 | sweet |
08:35.12 | Number9 | hey |
08:35.19 | Number9 | i live in the US |
08:35.24 | Number9 | and im coming to london |
08:35.26 | Number9 | this month |
08:35.42 | Number9 | and i was wondering, could you help me out with a few questions about the telelphones there |
08:35.51 | Tarragon | We can try |
08:35.56 | Number9 | thanks! :) |
08:35.58 | Number9 | well |
08:36.06 | Number9 | 020 is london |
08:36.10 | SlayerXP | amazing |
08:36.15 | SlayerXP | you know more than most londoners |
08:36.16 | Number9 | 020 7xxx xxxx is central |
08:36.18 | Number9 | lol |
08:36.28 | Tarragon | 0208 is outer London |
08:36.33 | Number9 | right :) |
08:36.35 | Number9 | so |
08:36.46 | Number9 | how bout outside of london |
08:36.46 | SlayerXP | 020 is london, 7 will most likely be centralish, 8 will most likely not |
08:36.48 | Number9 | how does that work |
08:36.55 | Number9 | 01 .. |
08:37.29 | SlayerXP | yes, you have an area code and a local number |
08:37.33 | Tarragon | 0151 Liverpool 0161 Manchester |
08:37.41 | SlayerXP | 01204 being Bolton, for example. |
08:37.45 | Number9 | ah i see |
08:38.02 | Number9 | well how is there one more digit in bolton than liverpool? |
08:38.12 | Number9 | for the area code |
08:38.24 | SlayerXP | because we have BT in charge, who are fuckwits. |
08:38.31 | Number9 | ah ok lol |
08:38.39 | Number9 | so every basic number has 6 digits? |
08:39.00 | SlayerXP | maybe :) |
08:39.11 | Number9 | :P what do you mean by that |
08:39.14 | SlayerXP | london numbers are 8 digits |
08:39.23 | SlayerXP | bolton numbers are 6, go figure |
08:39.29 | Number9 | hmm odd |
08:39.47 | Number9 | lets say your in london |
08:39.52 | Number9 | and you call your neighbor |
08:39.54 | Number9 | next door |
08:39.55 | SlayerXP | which I am |
08:39.58 | Number9 | whats a typical number |
08:40.00 | Number9 | you would call |
08:40.06 | SlayerXP | 8123 4567 |
08:40.12 | Number9 | so 8 digits |
08:40.15 | RevRob | Number9, there are no set standards like in North America with regard to numbers |
08:40.22 | Number9 | right, ive noticed :P |
08:40.32 | SlayerXP | RevRob: yes, there are. it's just BT keep changing the standard |
08:40.33 | Tarragon | Numbers to landlines are usually 11 digits, but if in the same area yo can miss off the area code |
08:40.43 | Number9 | 8 means its outer london |
08:40.48 | SlayerXP | not really |
08:40.59 | SlayerXP | it means "most like not central-ish" london |
08:41.03 | SlayerXP | likely |
08:41.07 | Number9 | oh ok |
08:41.50 | Number9 | so lets say you live in london and you;re calling a typical number in liverpool |
08:41.58 | Number9 | how would that look? |
08:42.06 | RevRob | you always just dial the full number |
08:42.08 | Tarragon | you need to dial the full 11 digit number |
08:42.09 | SlayerXP | 0151 <some more numbers here> |
08:42.26 | Number9 | 6 numbers after the 0151? |
08:42.37 | RevRob | there are no extra prefixes or anything .. most people give out numbers as they would be dialed. |
08:42.50 | Number9 | oh ok |
08:43.04 | Tarragon | Cities tend to have a 4 digit city code plus a three digit district number plus the actual 4 digit number. |
08:43.18 | Number9 | ahh i see |
08:43.33 | Tarragon | Ouside a city it tends to be a 5 digit area code plus a 6 digit number |
08:43.58 | RevRob | for example, I live in Tooting (SW17 south london) My number starts 020 8672 xxxx most people around me have 8672 in their numbers |
08:44.17 | Number9 | oh ok |
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08:44.32 | Number9 | london's is very different from the rest of the UK right? |
08:44.44 | RevRob | should someone even mention National Rate numbers and toll-free numbers? |
08:44.55 | Number9 | i know you guys have 0800 |
08:44.59 | Number9 | and 0845 |
08:45.31 | Tarragon | That is only because Londoners think they are still on the old system of a three digit city number. Outside London the number would be written 0208 672 xxxx |
08:45.32 | RevRob | and numbers that aren't nation numbers charged at local rates |
08:46.06 | RevRob | Tarragon, ineed, I tend to write all my numbers in that form too.. xxxx xxx xxxx |
08:46.32 | RevRob | I try to harmonize numbers to something that reminds me of North American numbers, it's easier for me to remember |
08:46.56 | Number9 | so the three digit numbering is obsolete? |
08:47.04 | Number9 | (020) 7123 4567 |
08:47.17 | Tarragon | What is the expensive dial code? One of them is charged at £50 connection and was designed to sell stuff just by dialling? |
08:47.20 | RevRob | you will see numbers writen a 100 different ways here. |
08:47.33 | RevRob | 090* |
08:47.51 | RevRob | any number starting 090 is premium rate |
08:47.55 | Number9 | there is no set correct standard? |
08:48.05 | Number9 | premium rate... as in, expensive call? |
08:48.14 | RevRob | and there is also 0700 numbers as well... the are sort of premium rate numbers |
08:48.15 | Number9 | im assuming, hotlines and such... ? |
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08:48.35 | RevRob | yeah, and a lot of companies are moving their support/helplines to 090 numbers as well, the bastards |
08:48.39 | Number9 | hah |
08:48.53 | RevRob | it's bad enough your product is shit enough I have to get support for it, let alone charge me again. |
08:48.59 | Number9 | lol |
08:49.02 | Number9 | so this would be dialed from london to liverpool: 0151 551 8820 == Liverpool District PhoneLine |
08:49.12 | RevRob | yeah |
08:49.15 | Number9 | i see |
08:49.28 | RevRob | the best rule of thumb is .. dial all digits all the time and you can't go wrong |
08:49.34 | Number9 | :) |
08:49.35 | RevRob | unless you have a wrong number that is :) |
08:49.57 | Number9 | so even if you live in liverpool, and your calling your neighbor |
08:50.07 | Number9 | 0151 551 8820 |
08:50.10 | Number9 | you can dial that |
08:50.16 | Number9 | ? |
08:50.25 | SlayerXP | yes |
08:50.28 | Number9 | oh ok |
08:50.35 | SlayerXP | you can dial 0044151 551 8820 if you want |
08:50.44 | SlayerXP | (just to add to the fun) |
08:50.46 | Number9 | hah |
08:50.55 | Number9 | 44 being country code? |
08:51.00 | Number9 | and 00 being... international? |
08:51.02 | SlayerXP | yup |
08:51.04 | RevRob | yeah |
08:51.06 | Number9 | oh ok |
08:51.27 | RevRob | in my mobile phone I store all numbers as +44xxxxxxxxxxx |
08:51.31 | Tarragon | 077xx is normally a mobile phone |
08:51.31 | Number9 | heh |
08:51.36 | Number9 | oh 077? |
08:51.41 | SlayerXP | Number9: some people will tell you the london code is either 0207 or 0208, they are wrong. |
08:51.42 | RevRob | then I know I can just dial from anwywhere anytime and never have to hand edit the numbers |
08:51.44 | Number9 | whats the second 7? |
08:51.52 | RevRob | 077, 078, 079 |
08:51.57 | Number9 | SlayerXP, yeah thats what ive heard |
08:52.07 | RevRob | they are all different networks and the like |
08:52.07 | Number9 | whats the different between the three, RevRob? |
08:52.14 | SlayerXP | nothing |
08:52.19 | SlayerXP | just different number blocks |
08:52.25 | Number9 | oh ok |
08:52.25 | SlayerXP | they all mean "mobile phone" |
08:52.28 | Number9 | i see |
08:52.29 | RevRob | it use to be for different networks, but it's all tits up now |
08:52.57 | Number9 | 07x xxxx xxxx ? |
08:53.02 | Number9 | is that a mobile number? |
08:53.43 | RevRob | however, don't thnk that any number starting 07 is a mobile.. |
08:53.55 | RevRob | there are services that use 070 that are not mobiles |
08:53.55 | Number9 | oh? |
08:54.05 | RevRob | www.yac.com |
08:54.14 | Tarragon | Pagers normally start 076 |
08:54.30 | RevRob | pagers? I've heard of those. hmmm |
08:54.35 | Number9 | lol |
08:54.45 | RevRob | who the hell uses pagers here.. ???? |
08:54.48 | Leeds | Number9: it's important to know that however you dial a number, it'll be charged the same - so if you dial it as a long distance or international call - it'll still be charged as local or national |
08:54.50 | Number9 | so a pager could also be 077 ? |
08:54.58 | RevRob | and Blackberries aren't pagers.. so they don't count |