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| 05:18.23 | mozrat | Wow... that is the definition of oversleeping! |
| 05:19.08 | Clyphox | i couldn't believe the time when I woke up |
| 05:19.44 | mozrat | Umm. Is jbot ibots brother or something? |
| 05:19.49 | mozrat | hello jbot |
| 05:19.55 | Clyphox | but I have been having a few sleeping problems in the last few months.. but this has been my first night without sleep in over a week |
| 05:20.11 | Clyphox | jbot: Help |
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| 05:21.01 | Clyphox | he spoke to me in /m mode for awhile |
| 05:21.05 | Clyphox | hello ibot |
| 05:22.05 | mozrat | so Clyphox... whats the deal with you and Jenson... saw some banter last night |
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| 05:27.59 | mozrat | hello jbot |
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| 07:22.38 | mozrat | Clyphox, you still awake??? |
| 07:22.51 | Clyphox | ya |
| 07:23.38 | mozrat | cool |
| 07:23.46 | Clyphox | you? |
| 07:23.59 | mozrat | Just.... got 40 winks on the tube though |
| 07:24.28 | Clyphox | :-( |
| 07:25.58 | Clyphox | playing with Gnomemeeting with a friend |
| 07:27.06 | mozrat | does it work ok?? |
| 07:27.14 | Clyphox | yeah |
| 07:27.23 | Clyphox | can't connect to him but he can dial me |
| 07:31.57 | Clyphox | fun |
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| 09:31.07 | irvined | Morning |
| 09:31.54 | mozrat | Good Morning |
| 09:47.03 | irvined | I really dont feel good today. |
| 09:52.48 | Leeds | why? |
| 09:56.00 | irvined | Not enough sleep, spent most of the night trying to compile firebird for gtk-fb |
| 09:56.20 | Leeds | bah |
| 09:56.28 | Leeds | I didn't go to bed until well past 4 :-) |
| 09:56.43 | Leeds | and... did it build and run? |
| 09:57.10 | Tarragon | Does anyone here actually sleep like normal people? |
| 09:57.19 | irvined | it built and segfaulted. |
| 09:57.30 | Leeds | wethrin seems to go to bed quite early quite often |
| 09:57.39 | Leeds | oops |
| 09:57.43 | irvined | Leeds, but that was a problem with gtk-fb |
| 09:58.23 | irvined | firebirds going to be a whole new tin of worms. |
| 09:58.49 | Leeds | ah |
| 10:02.37 | irvined | iom not even sure if it will work at all - it probably has lots of direct calls to glib etc which i dont think can handle the framebuffer |
| 10:16.55 | Xiaoqi | hihi |
| 10:17.23 | irvined | Morning. |
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| 10:35.17 | Leeds | bye gregj |
| 10:35.34 | gregj | ?? |
| 10:35.54 | gregj | ussualy you would say - Hi, i am going now |
| 10:35.57 | gregj | :/ |
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| 12:35.33 | gregj | nope at all |
| 12:35.37 | gregj | we have nice snow |
| 12:35.41 | gregj | it is white everywhere |
| 12:35.49 | gregj | about 1C |
| 12:36.04 | gregj | (not a snow level, but temperature ;) ) |
| 12:39.36 | JD | tis 2 here now |
| 12:39.41 | JD | was one earlier |
| 12:40.17 | JD | we have some fantastic ice formations. I took some picutres so I will have to get them put up after lunch |
| 12:41.26 | gregj | :-) |
| 12:41.34 | gregj | so it is snowing in ldn this year as well |
| 12:41.45 | gregj | or it possibly will laster |
| 12:41.47 | gregj | later |
| 12:46.39 | JD | no idea. I'm not in london |
| 12:53.01 | gregj | :-) |
| 12:53.07 | gregj | me neither |
| 12:53.59 | gregj | JD: are there winex packages for debian unstable somewhere ? |
| 12:55.29 | gregj | i found one on apt-get.org |
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| 13:19.59 | wethrin | Hello |
| 13:24.22 | Leeds | hi |
| 13:24.45 | gregj | y0 |
| 13:24.53 | wethrin | It's a greg.pl! |
| 13:25.03 | gregj | it is |
| 13:25.25 | gregj | only till mid of jan |
| 13:25.28 | wethrin | Can you bring back some nice beer? :) |
| 13:25.40 | gregj | you can buy it in UK :-) |
| 13:25.51 | gregj | zywiec, okocim, |
| 13:25.59 | wethrin | It's cheaper in .pl :) |
| 13:26.15 | wethrin | Okocim is nice. I still have a can of Harnas |
| 13:26.30 | gregj | yes, but there are some limits on amount of alcohol you can take abroad |
| 13:26.48 | wethrin | Bleh :-) |
| 13:29.01 | gregj | althou I can get one or two bottles |
| 13:29.07 | wethrin | Whee! :) |
| 13:29.46 | gregj | my mom have to teach me how to cook few bits, i am sick of food i eat in UK |
| 13:30.03 | wethrin | So you can cook for Gllug soon? :) |
| 13:30.08 | gregj | hehe |
| 13:30.22 | gregj | i will have lecture about it :-) |
| 13:30.39 | wethrin | Heh. |
| 13:30.53 | wethrin | Leeds: Don't suppose Mailbox have been competent enough to mail you back yet? |
| 13:46.50 | Leeds | nope... |
| 13:46.58 | wethrin | Bah. :) |
| 13:47.12 | wethrin | Slippery beasts, aren't they? |
| 13:47.27 | Leeds | yes |
| 13:49.26 | Leeds | it's complicated... |
| 14:01.44 | wethrin | Is it likely you'll get it soon? |
| 14:02.57 | Leeds | get what? |
| 14:04.30 | JD | gregj: no, someone wanted to, but then the threatened to change the license if someone packaged it for debian |
| 14:12.31 | gregj | :-) |
| 14:22.32 | wethrin | Leeds: ipod |
| 14:25.29 | Leeds | 'my' ipod is currently in the process of being shipped from Brent Cross (north London - about 10 minutes drive from me) to Leeds... where it will be shipped back to me... |
| 14:25.45 | Leeds | my sister's ipod is currently on order at Apple on my discount, to be delivered to me... |
| 14:28.23 | wethrin | Confusing |
| 14:28.41 | Leeds | yes |
| 14:30.14 | wethrin | Right. Time for some food-hunting I think |
| 14:30.20 | wethrin | (having failed to find pizza) |
| 14:39.24 | Leeds | irvined wins |
| 14:50.32 | gregj | i think it is time to call for pizza |
| 14:50.48 | wethrin | Mmm. Bagels. |
| 14:50.54 | gregj | pizza in this country is much better than one i had in UK |
| 14:51.09 | wethrin | There's good pizzas here. But they tend to be served at Italian restaurants |
| 14:51.53 | Clyphox | heh |
| 14:52.25 | irvined | Can i force fetchmail to rewrite the to field? |
| 14:52.48 | irvined | its telling my local mta irvined@localhost and iw ant it to say irvined@foo.com |
| 14:54.22 | zachary | gregj: Would you ordr another pizza and mail it to me? Please! |
| 14:56.16 | Leeds | irvined: you certainly can make procmail do it |
| 14:56.37 | gregj | zachary: ;] |
| 14:56.57 | gregj | irvined: setup your mta properly |
| 14:57.08 | zachary | gregj: I'm serious! |
| 14:57.09 | gregj | zachary: www.telepizza.pl or something |
| 14:57.35 | gregj | zachary: althou they unfortunatelly don't take orders online |
| 14:59.10 | zachary | Graphics look tasty. Mmmmmmmmm! |
| 15:00.22 | gregj | ;p |
| 15:01.07 | zachary | Just send me something with the works on it. And my wife can pick off what she doesn't like. |
| 15:03.50 | wethrin | Grrr. I still need to wait 5 mins for food |
| 15:42.15 | irvined | gregj, it is. but the dns isnt live yet, so i wanted to fetchmail from the old one, and you can use smtpuser. and smtpdomain |
| 15:49.57 | murble | ouch! |
| 15:50.06 | wethrin | Still want to come to Oxford tonight? |
| 15:50.15 | JD | http://www.davidpashley.com/ice.jpg |
| 15:50.18 | murble | whynot? |
| 15:50.21 | murble | yeah. |
| 15:50.34 | murble | I'm trying to work out possibility of 20C3 going to. |
| 15:50.45 | wethrin | *blink*? |
| 15:50.49 | JD | of what? |
| 15:51.01 | JD | murble: you must really teach me murblish |
| 15:51.23 | murble | JD: google 20C3 and all my become clear. |
| 15:51.24 | wethrin | JD: That looks dangerous |
| 15:51.40 | JD | wethrin: insanely cool though |
| 15:51.50 | wethrin | JD: *bad*pun :) |
| 15:52.02 | JD | oh dear. sorry |
| 15:52.18 | wethrin | Hm. CCC isn't going to happen tonight, so :) |
| 15:52.28 | murble | pub! |
| 15:52.37 | JD | oh linux congress type thing |
| 15:52.42 | wethrin | Pub starts around 8, but I need to pick up some magazines from Adrian Cox |
| 15:52.45 | murble | JD: more Chaos |
| 15:52.46 | wethrin | (in Marston) |
| 15:53.45 | wethrin | So...I could pick you up around 6.30 at the BMW garage? |
| 15:54.01 | wethrin | brb - coffee |
| 16:12.25 | wethrin | mm |
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| 16:33.09 | irvined | ooh its cold outside, |
| 16:33.22 | wethrin | murble: Is 6.30 okay to pick you up? |
| 16:35.36 | wethrin | Right. Who here has used IPv6 with OpenBSD?\ |
| 16:36.46 | nasrat | wethrin: I have but not for a while |
| 16:37.03 | wethrin | Right. Can you remember what was the easiest way? |
| 16:37.32 | murble | wethrin: yeah, fine. |
| 16:37.53 | murble | wethrin: for getting conectivity, or just getting it to work? |
| 16:38.01 | wethrin | murble: Getting connectivity |
| 16:38.09 | murble | wethrin: 6to4 |
| 16:38.12 | wethrin | It already works on localhost (::1) |
| 16:38.27 | murble | with the anycast 4to6 relay thing. |
| 16:39.14 | murble | wethrin: which is 192.88.99.1 |
| 16:39.17 | wethrin | Right. And I get to use a whole /48 then for various porpoises, yes?? |
| 16:39.51 | nasrat | I used tsp stuff from freenet6 IIRC |
| 16:40.31 | murble | wethrin: yeah, based on your v4 address. |
| 16:40.46 | murble | wethrin: the best alternative nowdays is probably to use a SixXS tunnel broker |
| 16:40.58 | murble | since they have some in the UK. |
| 16:41.03 | murble | oh and you should always ask your ISP as well. |
| 16:41.16 | wethrin | Why? |
| 16:41.23 | murble | wethrin: because it might encourage them. |
| 16:41.30 | murble | otherwise they can claim no customer demand. |
| 16:41.31 | wethrin | Ah, right. |
| 16:41.36 | wethrin | Not for technical raisins, then |
| 16:42.01 | murble | they might be able to offer you a tunnel, etc you won't know if you don't ask. |
| 16:43.15 | murble | in Brussels local cable company has an radvd running. |
| 16:49.18 | wethrin | Does Mailbox have a tunnel that you know of? |
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| 17:06.55 | murble | no idea. |
| 17:09.32 | wethrin | Hmm. Is Freenet6.net any good? |
| 17:27.14 | murble | I think they are based in Canada |
| 17:27.23 | murble | best to go with SixXS |
| 17:27.47 | murble | or the bt ignite tunnel broker |
| 17:29.14 | wethrin | URL? |
| 17:33.39 | murble | oh bt exact... https://tb.ipv6.btexact.com/ |
| 17:38.18 | wethrin | Thanks :) That should supply me with the necessary tunnel configurations, then? |
| 17:42.17 | JD | hi |
| 17:50.07 | Leeds | thanks Jason |
| 17:50.08 | wethrin | Gah. It's 1750 already |
| 17:57.30 | JD | bah where is jason_ukfsn? |
| 18:03.25 | wethrin | Not here |
| 18:03.54 | wethrin | Leeds: Still no response, then? |
| 18:14.11 | Leeds | no, and I'm annoyed at that |
| 18:18.06 | wethrin | Oh well. Hopefully they'll reply tomorrow morning :) |
| 18:18.38 | Leeds | I'll call them if they don't |
| 18:20.17 | JD | who? what? where? |
| 18:20.34 | wethrin | Mailbox |
| 18:20.36 | wethrin | Cheers :) |
| 18:20.42 | wethrin | JD: Being muppets |
| 18:22.16 | wethrin | Right. I shall be off to Oxford now. |
| 18:22.27 | wethrin | With a car :) |
| 18:23.02 | Leeds | ooh |
| 18:24.37 | wethrin | See you tomorrow |
| 18:24.44 | JD | bye |
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| 21:37.13 | Cope | Evening |
| 21:37.26 | Cope | Hi mozrat! :o) |
| 21:37.52 | mozrat | How is the little man????? (We've all been wondering!) |
| 21:38.20 | Cope | Much better, his jaundice level has gone down, and he's feeding well; subject to test results he should come home tomorrow afternoon. |
| 21:38.39 | mozrat | So what was the problem?? |
| 21:38.49 | Cope | He had jaundice. |
| 21:38.55 | mozrat | Aww. |
| 21:39.03 | Cope | and became very dehydrated. |
| 21:39.10 | Cope | Not sure what caused it though. |
| 21:39.12 | mozrat | Was that affecting his feeding also? |
| 21:39.37 | mozrat | Did he go under that lightbox contraption? |
| 21:42.49 | Cope | Not in the end. |
| 21:43.02 | Cope | It was making him cold, sleepy, and too dopey to eat. |
| 21:43.26 | Cope | So he became more dehydrated, so his liver worked even less well, so he became worse. |
| 21:43.48 | Cope | But now he's eating loads, and is quite perky. |
| 21:44.45 | mozrat | Yikes.... my daughter had the same and had some sessions under the lightbox |
| 21:44.52 | mozrat | Is he walking yet> |
| 21:45.30 | Cope | What setting would a 5 pin din mouse get for gpm? |
| 21:46.33 | Cope | mozrat waves at Cope |
| 21:46.36 | Cope | yay! |
| 21:46.49 | mozrat | Huh? |
| 21:47.00 | Cope | mozrat waves at Copemozrat waves at Copemozrat waves at Copemozrat waves at Copemozrat waves at Copemozrat waves at Cope |
| 21:47.14 | mozrat | my arms tired now... thanks a bunch |
| 21:47.42 | Cope | Got gpm running; wasn't working before as I had it set as a 2 button not a 3 button mouse. |
| 21:48.02 | mozrat | Is this on Linux or BSD? |
| 21:48.14 | Cope | gpm doesn't work on bsd :o( |
| 21:48.38 | Cope | There's a similar thing, but its buggy and not very secure. |
| 21:49.07 | mozrat | Oh |
| 21:49.27 | Cope | I had a good play with NetBSD the last 2 days. |
| 21:49.37 | Cope | Its awesome, but for my needs, linux is better at the moment. |
| 21:49.46 | mozrat | Any good? I had FreeBSD running a while back |
| 21:49.55 | Cope | NetBSD isn't set up to deliver a good console experience; X is fine, I'm sure. |
| 21:50.34 | Cope | But I will definitely be using it in the future. |
| 21:50.57 | mozrat | Cool |
| 21:51.34 | Cope | This is on the old pc that new2unix gave me. |
| 21:51.42 | Cope | My other machine leaked magic smoke. |
| 21:54.19 | mozrat | :-0 |
| 22:06.00 | JD | Cope: stop that |
| 22:06.43 | JD | good biy |
| 22:06.45 | JD | boy |
| 22:06.54 | Cope | Is irssi on 0.8.9 now? |
| 22:09.32 | Cope | Hi nasrat |
| 22:10.23 | Cope | Hello Jenson. |
| 22:28.08 | JD | ooh a Jenson |
| 22:28.10 | JD | hi hon |
| 22:28.20 | JD | Cope: yes |
| 22:28.23 | Jenson | heya JD |
| 22:28.34 | Jenson | there is a big fly in here, its December ffs |
| 22:28.57 | Cope | jd: Worked this out; and is compiling it. Had the same problem I had with 0.8.8 and perl libs, I think. |
| 22:29.13 | JD | Jenson: flies don't yes a calander |
| 22:29.29 | JD | s.yes/use |
| 22:29.34 | JD | oh ffs |
| 22:29.40 | JD | i'm going to bed |
| 22:29.45 | Cope | Night JD |
| 22:29.47 | Jenson | yeh, but they are uxually dead of or hibernating by now |
| 22:29.52 | Jenson | night JD lol |
| 22:30.11 | Cope | the qualoty of the typos tonight is spectaclar |
| 22:30.25 | JD | Cope: I hope that was intentional |
| 22:32.32 | Cope | BRB |
| 22:32.34 | Cope | QUIT |
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| 22:33.02 | sanelson | Back |
| 22:33.05 | Jenson | re |
| 22:33.58 | Jenson | i have no idea which version this is |
| 22:34.14 | Cope | Ok, almost there; and its taken me.... oooh... 90 mins from start to finish. |
| 22:34.35 | Cope | To get this box set up as I want it. |
| 22:36.55 | Jenson | Cope: who's box is that one? |
| 22:37.22 | Cope | Its mine; just in time I got an old box from new2unix, so I am not without machine. |
| 22:38.01 | Jenson | yeh i have a spare machine too, although the harddrive from it is currently in here, salthough not being used |
| 22:38.28 | JD | oh yeah I'm asleep aren't I |
| 22:38.30 | Leeds | Cope: how's things? |
| 22:38.38 | Jenson | eh, bugger off JD :P |
| 22:38.45 | Jenson | Leeds: heya |
| 22:38.59 | JD | Jenson: http://www.davidpashley.com/ice.jpg |
| 22:39.07 | Leeds | evening Jenson |
| 22:39.37 | Jenson | heh cool |
| 22:39.37 | Cope | Leeds: Good thanks, William is much improved, and they should be home tomorrow. |
| 22:39.42 | Leeds | goodo! |
| 22:39.52 | Jenson | grrr i have formula 1 engine sounds in my playlist |
| 22:39.59 | Cope | Why?? |
| 22:40.00 | Leeds | vroom vroom! |
| 22:40.39 | Jenson | Cope: coz i loaded thw whole directory |
| 22:40.53 | Cope | I see. |
| 22:44.24 | JD | good god, w2k internet connection sharing is not a caching DNS server |
| 22:44.35 | JD | wtf? |
| 22:50.19 | Jenson | right, done transfering money from barclays to barclaycard, not sleeptime |
| 22:50.22 | Jenson | erm |
| 22:50.26 | Jenson | now sleeptime even |
| 22:50.28 | Jenson | night guys |
| 22:50.51 | Cope | nn jenson |
| 22:51.26 | Jenson | nn Cope |
| 22:55.52 | Cope | netbsd certainly runs faster than slackware; maybe the framebuffer slows it down. |
| 22:57.44 | Leeds | nonsense! you're imagining it |
| 22:58.04 | Leeds | or maybe it's a good point |
| 23:06.34 | Cope | Hmm... why has zgv been deprecated in 9.1? We now have seejpeg |
| 23:06.57 | Leeds | no idea... I've not run on the framebuffer for a while now |
| 23:12.28 | Leeds | now see... this is why I like Safari... |
| 23:12.51 | Leeds | I've a hankering to do a little fiddling with Javascript - nothing complex... |
| 23:13.07 | Leeds | but I have no idea how, really... |
| 23:13.29 | Leeds | so rather than finding random tutorials and suchlike on the web - I can just take a book out the library :-) |
| 23:14.30 | Leeds | man? |
| 23:14.32 | Leeds | ?roff? |
| 23:18.57 | Cope | Just *roff? |
| 23:20.03 | Leeds | it's a start, yes |
| 23:20.39 | Cope | I want to work out how to call seejpeg from w3m; for which man w3m might be handy! |
| 23:24.15 | Leeds | you could always just use less on the man page 'source' - hard to read, but not impossible |
| 23:25.53 | Cope | I've read the man page on another machine; seems there is no config file specified. |
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| 23:26.22 | Marios_ | Hello everyboyd |
| 23:53.34 | highbury | cope: if you had konqueror you can use the url "man:man" |
| 23:54.08 | highbury | otherwise nroff is needed with -man macros |
