| 00:07.13 | Cope | Hey nasrat |
| 00:10.05 | nasrat | evening |
| 00:10.18 | Marios_ | hello nasrat |
| 00:11.33 | nasrat | hi, but briefly - home and just getting ready for bed |
| 00:11.59 | Marios_ | sweet dreams then |
| 01:18.34 | Marios_ | hello resuDaed |
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| 01:29.16 | Marios_ | hello Bitch |
| 01:29.37 | Bitch | hi Marios |
| 01:29.48 | Bitch | no one else up? |
| 01:29.55 | mozrat | only just |
| 01:30.15 | Bitch | :) |
| 01:30.40 | Bitch | ne sight of resuDaed or Clyphox? |
| 01:31.48 | Marios_ | most of the people are asleap |
| 01:32.08 | Bitch | I guess |
| 01:32.37 | Bitch | why you guys up? |
| 01:32.37 | Marios_ | we never met before right>? |
| 01:32.49 | Bitch | no, but you know ppl i know |
| 01:33.00 | Marios_ | I am in the US so the time is 8:33 |
| 01:33.14 | Bitch | I'm Clyphox's little sis. |
| 01:34.41 | Marios_ | ohhh I see |
| 01:34.41 | Bitch | :) |
| 01:34.42 | Marios_ | you like Linux as well ? |
| 01:35.17 | Bitch | I do, even though I have 0.1% knowledge about it. |
| 01:35.39 | Bitch | I also dated resuDaed, so am full of geeky stuff I have no use with! |
| 01:35.50 | Cope | hi bitch |
| 01:35.57 | Marios_ | hehehehhehe |
| 01:36.00 | Bitch | Hi Cope |
| 01:36.04 | murble | Bitch: you could get a job though with it. |
| 01:36.15 | Bitch | Not my forte. |
| 01:36.21 | Bitch | Though Tom mentioned that... |
| 01:36.21 | Marios_ | why not ? |
| 01:36.37 | Bitch | I'm more a spiritual, hands on people kinda gal. |
| 01:36.45 | Marios_ | I see |
| 01:36.50 | Cope | hands on keyboard? |
| 01:36.54 | Bitch | Applying for jobs at the mo on cruise ships |
| 01:37.05 | Bitch | Hands-on-people. |
| 01:37.10 | Cope | Oh got y ou |
| 01:37.17 | murble | Bitch: so you could coucil the person who has just lost all their data, and help them right the cheque for the recovery charge. |
| 01:37.24 | Bitch | LOL |
| 01:37.35 | Bitch | Fantastic, no work = money! |
| 01:37.42 | Bitch | What i dream of |
| 01:38.51 | Marios_ | how old are you bitch? |
| 01:39.01 | Bitch | 18 going on 40 |
| 01:39.02 | Bitch | You? |
| 01:39.21 | Marios_ | 25 |
| 01:39.49 | Bitch | Where abouts in the us are you? |
| 01:39.57 | murble | Bitch: you off to univeristy or somthing soonsih? |
| 01:40.16 | Bitch | been and left already |
| 01:40.33 | Marios_ | Michigan |
| 01:40.51 | Marios_ | close to Canadian border |
| 01:40.54 | Bitch | ah |
| 01:41.03 | Bitch | Sounds nice. |
| 01:41.06 | Marios_ | with temperatures -5 Celcius |
| 01:41.06 | murble | Bitch: fast and efficient! |
| 01:41.13 | Marios_ | and lots of snow outside ;) |
| 01:41.24 | Bitch | I have a good friend in Chicaga, he's always in holiday in Toronto. |
| 01:41.32 | murble | and people conspiring to overthrow the federal goverment? |
| 01:41.47 | murble | or isn't that wahat the michigan militia does? |
| 01:41.55 | Marios_ | lol |
| 01:42.00 | Bitch | Murble: Was studying Law, but taking a few years off.... |
| 01:42.44 | Marios_ | no reason to overthrow the goverment |
| 01:43.05 | Marios_ | Bitch << Chicago is awesome |
| 01:43.07 | murble | Bitch: so they just blow up federal buildings for fun? |
| 01:43.16 | murble | Marios_: and a good place to be shot. |
| 01:43.35 | Marios_ | murble << have you been there? |
| 01:43.56 | murble | Marios_: no, but my ex-co colleuge was from there. |
| 01:44.12 | Marios_ | oh yeah you told me |
| 01:44.30 | Marios_ | man I was looking on the colocation server |
| 01:45.02 | Marios_ | the big irc networks require 1000Gb / month traffic |
| 01:45.19 | murble | i assume that is excluding DDoS traffic |
| 01:45.33 | murble | for 100 quid a month you get 1 u with 400Gb at telihouse |
| 01:45.49 | murble | that is what aa.nu charge it seems. |
| 01:46.58 | Bitch | Now that's why I could do Linux fultime! |
| 01:47.07 | Bitch | I didn't get a word of that! |
| 01:47.11 | Marios_ | lol |
| 01:47.57 | murble | Bitch: fortunly it wasn't much to do with linux :) |
| 01:48.09 | Bitch | It's true. I'm just not destined to be e techy |
| 01:48.14 | Marios_ | hehhehe |
| 01:48.27 | Marios_ | so I guess it would be very costly for an IRC server node |
| 01:49.06 | murble | Marios_: mainly because it makes you a great DoS target. |
| 01:49.21 | Marios_ | true |
| 01:49.52 | Marios_ | I should find a smaller network |
| 01:53.02 | murble | Marios_: or give up on the idea of running an IRC node, unless you work seomplace where you can run it from work. |
| 01:53.14 | murble | (which seems to be how many of the irc networks actually happen) |
| 01:53.27 | Marios_ | yeah |
| 01:53.39 | Marios_ | I was with some other guys and all they wanna do it.. |
| 01:53.44 | Marios_ | and share the price |
| 01:57.41 | Marios_ | bitch << you just came home from clubbing |
| 01:57.42 | Marios_ | ? |
| 01:58.14 | Bitch | No couldn't sleep. |
| 01:58.33 | Bitch | yoiu guys know what 5.1 feet is in cms??? |
| 02:00.04 | Marios_ | ~ 1.82 |
| 02:00.24 | Marios_ | ohh no |
| 02:00.32 | Marios_ | 1.52 I guess |
| 02:00.47 | Bitch | I wish I was that tall. :) |
| 02:00.52 | Marios_ | ??? |
| 02:01.26 | Bitch | Applying for a job... |
| 02:01.36 | murble | Bitch: with a hight restricition!? |
| 02:01.37 | Marios_ | how tall are you? |
| 02:02.34 | murble | about 1.6m at a guess.. |
| 02:02.54 | Bitch | 155.448! |
| 02:02.59 | Bitch | Or 5.1 foot |
| 02:03.04 | Marios_ | hmmm |
| 02:03.10 | Marios_ | what is the requirement? |
| 02:03.15 | Bitch | which is a lie, I'm only just 5 foot, but want this job... |
| 02:03.16 | murble | Bitch: 5.1 feet or 5' 1" |
| 02:03.47 | Bitch | murble: um |
| 02:04.00 | Bitch | Marios: It's 5.1 |
| 02:04.35 | murble | Bitch: wear big shoes. |
| 02:04.37 | murble | what is the job? |
| 02:04.40 | Marios_ | what kind of job ? |
| 02:04.54 | Bitch | Air line steward |
| 02:05.16 | murble | which airline? |
| 02:05.19 | Marios_ | BA ?? |
| 02:05.23 | murble | BMI? |
| 02:05.57 | Bitch | EA |
| 02:06.04 | Bitch | Emirates |
| 02:06.16 | murble | ooh proper longhaul flights! |
| 02:06.19 | murble | cool |
| 02:06.45 | Marios_ | hmm |
| 02:07.02 | Marios_ | Emirates is not foreign Airlines ? |
| 02:07.06 | Bitch | Well, I lived in Dubai not long ago, so wouldn't mind going back. |
| 02:07.11 | Bitch | Yeah |
| 02:07.42 | Marios_ | oh I thought that each airline hires flight attendants only from the country that belongs to |
| 02:07.50 | murble | Marios_: no |
| 02:08.13 | murble | Marios_: when was the last time you got an Irish stewedess on Ryan? |
| 02:08.26 | Marios_ | where? |
| 02:08.51 | Bitch | lol |
| 02:09.07 | Marios_ | I didn't get that |
| 02:09.28 | murble | Marios_: Ryanair |
| 02:10.13 | Marios_ | ohhhh |
| 02:10.20 | Marios_ | never traveled with that |
| 02:10.24 | Marios_ | always BA |
| 02:10.38 | murble | BA are expensive and inflexible |
| 02:11.43 | Marios_ | Ryanair and EasyJet don't fly from America :( |
| 02:12.47 | murble | Marios_: If i was flying that far and spending that much i might try and get a proper airlin and a business class ticket |
| 02:12.59 | murble | or atleast an economy+ |
| 02:13.38 | murble | Bitch: are they interviewin in the uk? |
| 02:13.48 | murble | or should that be measuring? |
| 02:14.20 | Marios_ | murble << BA is not a proper Airline ??> |
| 02:14.38 | murble | Marios_: they are just not notice to you |
| 02:14.53 | murble | atleast not to me on a infernal flight to edinburgh last sunner# |
| 02:15.08 | murble | and before that i only flew with them to .lu because they were somteimes the cheapest |
| 02:15.09 | Bitch | I bloody hope so! |
| 02:15.18 | murble | vlm are a v.nice airline if you have to do any internal flights. |
| 02:15.33 | murble | and are based in london |
| 02:15.37 | murble | and not near LHR |
| 02:15.40 | Marios_ | well from US to UK BA is the best...or maybe second best to Virgin |
| 02:18.53 | murble | Marios_: have you ever flown airlingus from shannon or dublin? |
| 02:21.39 | Bitch | Marios_: You come to the uk frequently? |
| 02:26.25 | Bitch | All quiet on the western front... |
| 02:27.17 | murble | tis the quiet before the storm. |
| 02:28.24 | Bitch | Indeed. |
| 02:28.39 | Bitch | Have we meet at any of the gllug meetings? |
| 02:29.22 | murble | Probably. |
| 02:29.47 | Bitch | You have another name? |
| 02:29.55 | murble | bill |
| 02:30.23 | Bitch | Don't remember any Bills :) |
| 02:31.14 | murble | That is ok then :) |
| 02:31.33 | murble | But you were there with deaduser and wore lots of black. |
| 02:31.50 | Bitch | How long ago was that? |
| 02:31.53 | murble | iirc |
| 02:32.00 | murble | maybe i year ago? |
| 02:32.03 | murble | a/i/a/ |
| 02:32.16 | Bitch | probably. |
| 02:32.29 | Bitch | What a desister we were |
| 02:33.54 | murble | a what? |
| 02:34.01 | Bitch | disaster |
| 02:34.09 | Bitch | no good witha de inglish |
| 02:35.21 | murble | hmm. |
| 02:35.58 | murble | why? |
| 02:36.14 | Bitch | Why no good with english, or why a disaster? |
| 02:36.37 | murble | a disaster? |
| 02:36.49 | Bitch | Depends on your view point. |
| 02:37.27 | Bitch | If your normal, and are satisfied by love, then you'll understand. |
| 02:38.09 | Bitch | If you exspect love to solve all your questions on the meaning of life, or expect love to solve the problems that occur, then you'll understand T |
| 02:39.18 | murble | and is supose otherwise there is somthing wrong wit h you and you won't understand, but that doesn't matter? |
| 02:39.47 | Bitch | Pardon? |
| 02:41.17 | Bitch | I really didn't get that... |
| 02:41.41 | murble | probably because it is bad english. |
| 02:41.48 | Bitch | :) |
| 02:42.04 | murble | so the reason for the bad english is spending too much time on irc :) |
| 02:42.31 | murble | the reason for my bad english there is that i'm backup stuff over my network link so i've got very high latancy to my irc client. |
| 02:42.38 | Bitch | Do you mean maybe the problem wasn't with his opinion on love, but with rather with me? |
| 02:43.19 | murble | that would be one way of looking at it. |
| 02:43.51 | murble | or atleast to share some of the blame rather than just assign it to the other party :) |
| 02:44.48 | Bitch | Trust is a big thing to me, and to him. I belive him, and his reason to stop dating was because he couldn't handle a relationship, not with me, not with anypone. |
| 02:44.52 | Bitch | anyone even |
| 02:45.16 | Bitch | I wish I could blame him, I wish to hate him. |
| 02:45.36 | Bitch | But i do understand his neccessity for space, and time. |
| 02:45.56 | Bitch | It just came at a time where I was ready to give up everything to be with him. |
| 02:48.39 | Bitch | Hence disaster |
| 02:50.49 | Bitch | You there? |
| 02:51.35 | murble | still.. |
| 02:52.03 | Bitch | and? |
| 02:52.31 | murble | I'm waiting until I know my backup script works and then i'm going to get into bed and read or sleep or somthing. |
| 02:52.42 | murble | otherwise I@m doomed |
| 02:52.49 | Bitch | Interesting |
| 02:52.50 | murble | dooomed to spend saturday asleep |
| 02:53.18 | murble | although sleeping during the day is a good money spending avoidance technique. |
| 02:53.18 | Bitch | Ok. |
| 02:53.25 | Bitch | Sleep well |
| 03:01.48 | new2unix | anyone else up? just finished watching an old musical classic "The little Shop of horrors" :) |
| 03:03.37 | sparrowd|afk | new2unix : yeah, am bored - and not sleeping |
| 03:04.16 | sparrowd|afk | and just caught the arse end of Bitch talking about me |
| 03:04.24 | new2unix | what was wrong with resuDaed? why the name change? |
| 03:05.14 | sparrowd|afk | short term thing - sparrow is another alias |
| 03:05.55 | sparrowd|afk | sparrowd is my concious thoughts running in the background (tiredness) - hence the d |
| 03:06.02 | new2unix | oh. and sparrowD is when youre serving as to when youre a client? lol |
| 03:06.33 | new2unix | oops!. ahead of myself there. |
| 03:06.41 | sparrowd|afk | actually, sparrow was taken :-( |
| 03:07.04 | sparrowd|afk | but some guy who has been idle for 113 hours |
| 03:07.28 | sparrowd|afk | s/but/buy |
| 03:07.54 | new2unix | s/buy/by |
| 03:08.05 | new2unix | haha. ok. its bedtime for me. adios all |
| 03:08.15 | sparrowd|afk | am pissed off because FreeBSD has incorrectly detected my hdd geom, so all my files are distrbuted all over small hdds |
| 03:08.40 | sparrowd|afk | night |
| 03:08.48 | new2unix | how dit that happen? |
| 03:09.09 | new2unix | ive never had problems wirth NetBSD |
| 03:09.50 | sparrowd|afk | trying to convert 40G + of files from ext3 ro reiserfs while at the same time making that hdd an nfs dumping ground on fBSD |
| 03:09.50 | new2unix | ok. the fingers arent playing along with the eyes nor the brain here. its definately bed time. G'night |
| 03:10.13 | sparrowd|afk | night |
| 03:10.50 | sparrowd|afk | plus to make things worse, the fBSD box has no keyb, no screen, and no physcial access to the back :-( |
| 03:11.18 | new2unix | used to like reiserfs untill i found that most of my rescue CD's and floppies inly recognised ext2 and ext3. so i had to change my FS to ext3. personally a journal is a journal. the diferences arent that diferent |
| 03:11.52 | sparrowd|afk | nah, but apparantly ReiserFS is faster under fBSD, and I have never used it |
| 03:12.22 | sparrowd|afk | and to make things even more fun - I am new to fBSD also |
| 03:12.47 | sparrowd|afk | a little more seasoned with o/nBSD, but they all have their odd little quirks |
| 03:12.55 | new2unix | headless terminal? sweet:) |
| 03:13.15 | sparrowd|afk | I have 4 headless boxes on my desk |
| 03:13.23 | sparrowd|afk | and a lappy |
| 03:14.44 | sparrowd|afk | I have a P1 lappy that I want to make the full time method of local access, but not yet |
| 03:15.13 | new2unix | I have a headless NetBSD server that i tweaked sshD and is now not receiving connections. guess its time i plueed in a monitor and keyboard to check whats happened. lol |
| 03:16.14 | new2unix | is murble still up? |
| 03:16.50 | sparrowd|afk | I installed fBSD without realising that ssh wont let you log in as root, realising after making headless |
| 03:17.11 | sparrowd|afk | and having not yet created users |
| 03:18.00 | sparrowd|afk | http://resudaed.com/ss.png is my lappies view of the machines |
| 03:18.16 | sparrowd|afk | don't know about murble |
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| 08:13.08 | JD | moin |
| 08:13.20 | stephen | hihi |
| 08:13.53 | JD | last thing I remember is leaving the bar |
| 08:14.09 | stephen | hehe |
| 08:14.51 | JD | and now I feel slightly drunk |
| 08:14.57 | JD | I hould really sleep it off |
| 08:16.35 | stephen | yer, probably the best idea |
| 08:17.36 | JD | :) |
| 08:19.59 | stephen | got an exam at 14:00 :/ |
| 08:24.01 | JD | :( |
| 11:22.38 | JD | hi nasrat |
| 11:28.20 | Wethrin | Morning |
| 11:28.49 | JD | hi Wethrin |
| 11:28.56 | JD | good night |
| 11:29.03 | Wethrin | g'night? |
| 11:29.07 | Wethrin | No, I just got up, thanks. |
| 11:29.13 | JD | can't remember |
| 11:29.21 | Wethrin | It was good yesterday |
| 11:29.46 | Wethrin | Went for Thai |
| 11:30.04 | Wethrin | Bwah |
| 11:32.08 | nasrat | hi ppl |
| 11:33.21 | JD | w00t sparc memory just arrived |
| 11:34.11 | JD | which means I need to remove everything off my sparc |
| 11:39.48 | Wethrin | :) |
| 11:40.01 | Wethrin | Hi nasrat |
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| 12:50.07 | murble | hmm what a nice day... |
| 13:02.38 | Wethrin | Indeed :-/ |
| 13:02.54 | Wethrin | Not good for talking the dog out in :) |
| 13:03.42 | murble | does the dog normally need that much persuation? |
| 13:10.22 | JD | moin |
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| 13:50.41 | Cope | Hi |
| 13:50.46 | Cope | gregj: You there? |
| 13:50.52 | Cope | Wethrin? |
| 13:51.02 | Cope | Anyone polish? :o)\ |
| 14:05.48 | Wethrin | I'm just about to go |
| 14:06.09 | murble | for a walk? |
| 14:06.19 | Wethrin | Nah - have to take someone down to Victoria |
| 14:06.42 | Wethrin | Although it appears to have mostly stopped raining, so a walk wouldn't be so bad. |
| 14:07.21 | Wethrin | (bback in a few hours) |
| 14:09.13 | Cope | hi murble |
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| 15:06.12 | new2unix | could somebody join hands with me as i try cast out some demons out of Kde. |
| 15:08.08 | new2unix | its crying for the blood of a firstborn. where is Isaac? |
| 15:10.16 | new2unix | isnt it funny how when things break they break in powers of 3? |
| 15:12.27 | new2unix | Trust my luck. My light bulb has suddenly blown. |
| 15:12.48 | Cope | brb |
| 15:16.19 | new2unix | so who's dropping by the streets of London, next Monday, to join in the Rugby celebrations? it might not be till another 37yrs before we see anything like it. |
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| 15:29.02 | Cope | wave |
| 15:29.12 | morsing | oi! |
| 15:29.37 | Cope | Ahoy |
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| 15:50.25 | sanelson | Hello |
| 15:50.32 | Cope | Umm Hello |
| 15:51.26 | new2unix | Cope, you must be dizzy with the comings ang goings. |
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| 15:59.56 | Cope | Anyone got any idea why, when I do Alt-2 etc to switch in irssi that instead I get a superscript 2? vis: ² |
| 16:00.08 | murble | Cope: 'cos you are using X11 |
| 16:00.30 | Cope | murble: What do I do about it? |
| 16:11.37 | Cope | Aha! esc - # |
| 16:35.48 | Wethrin | zzzzz |
| 16:43.29 | morsing | Is there any way of knowing which way to plug in a 50pin SCSI connector? |
| 16:43.38 | Wethrin | Generally, yes. |
| 16:43.45 | Wethrin | Internal or external? |
| 16:44.43 | morsing | Internal. There are no numbers on it |
| 16:44.55 | morsing | But the tapedrive is flashing all over and |
| 16:45.12 | morsing | mt and tar dies hard when trying to use it. |
| 16:45.12 | Wethrin | Generally, the red stripe will go towards the power connector |
| 16:45.31 | Wethrin | Often you get a little polarising bit on one side of the connector |
| 16:46.25 | morsing | Yup, that's the problem. I can only fit it in one way at both ends but it doesn't work? |
| 16:46.38 | Wethrin | Something else is wrong |
| 16:47.37 | morsing | It finds the adapter and drive fine I just can't use it. Someone else has tested the drive for me and it works. |
| 16:51.40 | morsing | Hmmm... Termination? |
| 16:51.46 | Wethrin | Maybe. |
| 16:52.13 | morsing | Do I need a seperat terminator at the end of the cable? |
| 16:53.01 | Wethrin | Only if the tape drive doesn't automatically terminate |
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| 16:53.07 | Wethrin | Sometimes they have jumpers for it |
| 16:53.27 | murble | do they also have jumpers and climbers and diggers? |
| 16:53.39 | Wethrin | And blockers |
| 16:53.43 | formi | allo |
| 16:54.19 | new2unix | Ramon, how's it going? |
| 16:56.17 | morsing | It's a Quantum DLT4000. I can't find any jumpers. |
| 16:57.14 | formi | Wethrin: do you know if there is a chattr equivalent on OpenBSD? |
| 16:57.48 | morsing | chflags |
| 16:58.20 | Wethrin | morsing: If it's not auto-terminating, then you need a terminator |
| 16:59.39 | morsing | Ah, found the jumper! |
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| 17:41.59 | zachary | formi: evening! Did you go to the computer fairs? |
| 17:42.20 | formi | yeap |
| 17:42.48 | formi | gosh, i bought another cisco 350 wireless and it doesn't work |
| 17:46.25 | Wethrin | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:47.05 | morsing | Noone has mentioned beer yet |
| 17:47.25 | Wethrin | What about it? |
| 17:47.26 | Jenson | heya guys |
| 17:47.27 | Wethrin | We had some yesterday |
| 17:47.34 | Wethrin | You were there |
| 17:48.03 | morsing | Yup |
| 17:48.26 | Wethrin | There will be beer on Thursday (Lonix/London.pm) |
| 17:48.32 | Wethrin | And there will be beer on Saturday |
| 17:48.33 | Jenson | Wethrin: you gonna be there next saturday? |
| 17:48.36 | Wethrin | Yeh |
| 17:48.41 | Jenson | cool me too |
| 17:49.07 | Jenson | well dunno how long i'll be there, my boy/f is at work so i have to choose between pub with you lot or spending more time with him |
| 17:49.18 | Jenson | in the evening i mean |
| 17:49.21 | Jenson | he finishes work at 6 |
| 17:50.12 | formi | has anybody seen clyphox lately? |
| 17:50.22 | Jenson | I SAW HIM IN PERSON LAST MONDAY |
| 17:50.25 | Jenson | oopsies |
| 17:50.29 | Wethrin | GOOD FOR YOU |
| 17:50.52 | Jenson | they really should put the capslock key near the media keys, where i dont put my hands lol |
| 17:51.21 | formi | any idea if he's comming to gllug next sat? |
| 17:51.27 | Wethrin | Dunno yet |
| 17:51.37 | Jenson | formi: i dont know, but i do intend to call him and ask at some point |
| 17:51.56 | Jenson | seenas me and him will be in like the same place |
| 17:52.40 | Jenson | i think he's a little short of money ATM |
| 17:53.10 | formi | can you ask him if there anyway/anybody who can return my bag? |
| 17:54.17 | Jenson | formi: well, if he cant i probably can coz i'll be near his place |
| 17:54.28 | formi | and being on the subject remind tom of me, he knows what im on about |
| 17:54.33 | formi | Jenson: thanks |
| 17:54.43 | Jenson | lmao Tom still not delt with that yet? |
| 17:55.14 | Jenson | i may not see Tom, but if i do i will remind him |
| 17:57.06 | morsing | http://www.gllug.org/ |
| 17:57.25 | Wethrin | Greater Lansing? |
| 17:57.38 | Jenson | yeh |
| 17:57.47 | Jenson | Wethrin: sysadmin |
| 17:57.49 | morsing | :-) |
| 17:57.49 | Wethrin | What aboot it? |
| 17:58.25 | Wethrin | Okay. 30 minutes of sysadmin. |
| 17:59.50 | Wethrin | Mm. OpenBSD is so utterly quick to boot up and shut down. |
| 18:00.58 | formi | mine is quick to boot up, but i don't know much about how long it takes to shut down :-) |
| 18:01.11 | Wethrin | :) It takes about 10-15 seconds to shut down |
| 18:01.18 | morsing | Yeah, why do you shut it down? |
| 18:01.24 | Wethrin | Simple. |
| 18:01.28 | Wethrin | I don't want it running all the time |
| 18:01.34 | Wethrin | It's too noisy |
| 18:01.52 | Jenson | ooh there is a debian cd under my desk |
| 18:01.59 | Wethrin | CURN IT! |
| 18:02.00 | Jenson | thats not the pen i wanted though |
| 18:02.03 | Wethrin | *BURN |
| 18:02.14 | Jenson | Wethrin: dont worry, im not gonna use it lol |
| 18:02.32 | formi | that's why i have an old laptop, as firewall/wireless ap |
| 18:03.47 | Wethrin | I have a white-box which does that |
| 18:05.29 | formi | mine is slower than yours!! lalala |
| 18:05.37 | Wethrin | :) |
| 18:06.13 | formi | and uses less power and no noise |
| 18:08.16 | murble | formi: do they have internet in .es and when are you going? |
| 18:09.14 | formi | what for? telepathy is cheap |
| 18:11.16 | Wethrin | How do you find what lines match between 2 files, and only print out the matching lines? |
| 18:11.43 | Wethrin | Ah. comm |
| 18:28.13 | *** part/#gllug formi (~formi@82-35-34-114.cable.ubr01.camd.blueyonder.co.uk) |
| 18:31.09 | morsing | I just noticed my GXT3000P card has an S-video out |
| 18:31.15 | Wethrin | :) |
| 18:31.35 | morsing | Pretty cool :-) Do you want to buy it? |
| 18:31.35 | gregj | morning chaps |
| 18:31.42 | morsing | Oi |
| 18:31.45 | Wethrin | Groetjes |
| 18:31.55 | morsing | Hejsa |
| 18:32.47 | gregj | witam |
| 18:32.48 | gregj | :] |
| 18:33.11 | Wethrin | sparrowd = Resudaed? |
| 18:34.10 | morsing | spurvd? |
| 18:34.31 | Jenson | Wethrin: yeh well its the same area, same name so possibly |
| 18:34.56 | Wethrin | Hmm....if I run 'cvs -q update', what particular bits of the output will it suppress? |
| 18:35.28 | Wethrin | I want it to print the names of the updated files, but not "cvs server: Updating foo/bar" |
| 18:35.44 | Wethrin | Will -q do that? Or should I play it safe and just use grep on the output? |
| 18:43.24 | sparrowd | if I have an incorrect drive geometry that gives me the right disk size, will it work? |
| 18:43.36 | sparrowd | (freeBSD) |
| 18:43.47 | Wethrin | Hmm....not sure |
| 18:43.49 | Wethrin | Maybe |
| 18:44.30 | sparrowd | if I enter the drive geometry printed on the disk -- I get 20% of its total size :-| |
| 18:44.45 | Wethrin | Hmm. |
| 18:45.37 | Wethrin | Why should you have to manually enter drive geometry, anyway? |
| 18:48.19 | sparrowd | Wethrin : the bios fails to detect the disk, yet the fBSD kernel does |
| 18:49.04 | Jenson | interesting HDD youve got there |
| 18:49.14 | sparrowd | (machine is a P2-333, hdd is a Maxtor 40G |
| 18:49.16 | sparrowd | ) |
| 18:49.21 | Wethrin | Old computer? |
| 18:49.25 | Wethrin | Ahh. Yes. |
| 18:49.32 | Wethrin | 32G limit? Or 8G limit? |
| 18:49.40 | sparrowd | no idea :-) |
| 18:49.56 | sparrowd | built it out of scraps |
| 18:50.05 | gregj | :/ |
| 18:50.05 | morsing | Do you partition it or use it as a whole disk? |
| 18:50.30 | sparrowd | I am going to be partitioning to 2x 20G (reiserFS) |
| 18:50.43 | Wethrin | You use reiserFS with FreeBSD? |
| 18:50.44 | morsing | In BSD?! |
| 18:51.08 | sparrowd | OS not on that disk |
| 18:51.15 | Jenson | Wethrin: probably 8GB id have thought |
| 18:51.28 | sparrowd | I'd have thought more likley 32G |
| 18:51.29 | morsing | What does disklabel say? |
| 18:51.57 | Jenson | sparrowd: yeh, you probably kow better than me |
| 18:52.55 | sparrowd | morsing : give me a sec |
| 18:53.48 | sparrowd | morsing : no label |
| 18:54.06 | sparrowd | disk has never been used under fBSD |
| 18:55.23 | Jenson | well im off, wanna get some dinner |
| 18:55.26 | Jenson | seeya later guys |
| 18:59.28 | morsing | Try 'disklabel -w -n ad1 auto' |
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| 19:10.41 | morsing | Oops! |
| 19:10.59 | new2unix | are there any KDE developers here? Mine defaults to Czech, no matter how many times i set it right. |
| 19:11.17 | morsing | Greg :-) |
| 19:11.52 | new2unix | is Greg the culprit? I knew it. ;) |
| 19:14.00 | new2unix | odd thing is that its selective on what it translates and what it doesnt. Gimp-1.2 is in English while Gimp-1.3 is in Czech. |
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| 19:41.12 | Clyphox | Hopla |
| 19:45.20 | sparrowd | guten abend |
| 19:45.23 | Cope | Hello |
| 19:45.43 | Cope | new2unix: Heh! I had that problem too!! |
| 19:45.58 | Cope | new2unix: And, I went back to fluxbox! |
| 19:48.06 | Clyphox | fluxbox is sun |
| 19:49.30 | Cope | sun? |
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| 20:09.40 | Cope | lo |
| 20:10.20 | stephanb | lo |
| 20:10.21 | new2unix | pong |
| 20:10.53 | stephanb | new2unix: ping |
| 20:11.26 | new2unix | stephanb, host unreachable |
| 20:11.39 | Cope | ifconfig -a |
| 20:13.55 | new2unix | Cope, bash: ifconfig: command not found |
| 20:14.02 | new2unix | haha |
| 20:14.07 | stephanb | new2unix: /sbin/ifconfig |
| 20:14.12 | Cope | echo $PATH |
| 20:14.28 | new2unix | okok. smartypants |
| 20:15.25 | Cope | new2unix: Back on fluxbox; *very* happy! |
| 20:20.12 | new2unix | small footprint, neat, tidy, fast, etc.those are the pluses. but it can look terribly geeky to the uninitiated. |
| 20:20.20 | new2unix | load up fluxbox with half a dozen xterms and folks think you want to pull down a comms satellite |
| 20:21.06 | stephanb | new2unix: tell your mates, fluxbox is the OS featured in the last james bond |
| 20:21.25 | stephanb | new2unix: btw, what is flux ? a desktop ? |
| 20:22.28 | new2unix | aghh.. there was a very lengthy discussion on window managers and such a few months back on the list. |
| 20:23.04 | stephanb | new2unix: jeez, reminds me i have to subscribe to the list |
| 20:23.53 | new2unix | you dont have to. the archives are public accessable (sp?) |
| 20:24.17 | stephanb | oh right |
| 20:25.30 | zachary | new2unix stephanb: We are moving the lists from linux.co.uk to ukfsn.org.uk. gllug-annouce has already been moved. The main list will move sometime with in a week or so. |
| 20:25.58 | stephanb | ok |
| 20:26.41 | morsing | Damn. You guys woke up Zach! |
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| 20:31.55 | Wethrin | 'lo Beth |
| 20:33.14 | stephanb | my god it's almost a full house tonite ! |
| 20:33.57 | Wethrin | Yes, but how many of those are awake? |
| 20:36.03 | stephanb | ??? will you do a speech on your sleep interface ? |
| 20:36.03 | Cope | I am awake |
| 20:36.44 | stephanb | put a hat over your head with about 50 electrodes, and control your computer in your sleep |
| 20:38.41 | stephanb | only problem, you have shave your head and smear your skull with this conducting cream |
| 20:43.08 | zachary | sounds like eye69 would be a good candidate. |
| 20:44.39 | Cope | zachary: did you get anything from the fairs? |
| 20:45.29 | zachary | I didn't go. Started my day late. Wife wanted to break for coffee. I'm going to go next week before the meeting. |
| 20:45.43 | Cope | zachary: Cool! |
| 20:46.09 | Cope | zachary: A heavily pregnant Sophie is coming next week, all going well. |
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| 20:46.35 | zachary | 16 days? |
| 20:46.49 | Cope | Wethrin: Really sorry not to have made it last night, Sophie wanted company. |
| 20:46.59 | Cope | zachary: 18 days. |
| 20:47.56 | zachary | dialog Cope |
| 20:47.59 | Wethrin | That's okay |
| 20:48.13 | Cope | dialog? |
| 20:48.27 | zachary | forgot the slash |
| 20:48.39 | Wethrin | DYM /query ? |
| 20:50.12 | Cope | mozrat: Hi there! |
| 20:52.03 | mozrat | hey cope, hey everyone |
| 20:52.10 | morsing | Hi |
| 20:54.06 | murble | that is bad. |
| 20:54.14 | Cope | K&R? |
| 20:54.27 | murble | although i suppose it is their own fault for printing it now days on very thick paper |
| 20:55.19 | stephanb | ??? anybody here has a printing question ? |
| 20:55.28 | Cope | lol |
| 20:59.24 | stephanb | jeez, how many ads for EA games are there on telly at the moment ? |
| 21:00.46 | Wethrin | Too many |
| 21:03.53 | mozrat | Has anyone ever used kbackup? |
| 21:05.05 | Wethrin | A long time ago |
| 21:05.33 | mozrat | I'm looking at a tapeless backup solution for someone |
| 21:05.50 | mozrat | Their budget doesn't yet stretch to a tape-drive !?!? |
| 21:06.42 | mozrat | so basically 2 servers backing up critical data to each others harddisks |
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| 21:06.54 | Wethrin | Right. |
| 21:06.57 | Wethrin | rsync is your friend |
| 21:06.59 | Marios_ | hello people |
| 21:07.12 | stephanb | hello your highness |
| 21:07.16 | mozrat | Marios_: hi |
| 21:07.48 | mozrat | Wethrin: Hmmm, yes but I would like a report to be generated now and then |
| 21:08.11 | stephanb | mozrat: is a raid not a good solution ? or you only want to backup a portion of the data. |
| 21:08.13 | Wethrin | Sure. rsync gives you output |
| 21:08.45 | mozrat | I'm also trying to protect against the use of the delete key by the users. Won't rsync replicate the deletion |
| 21:09.02 | Wethrin | If you specify the --delete option, then yes. |
| 21:09.12 | Wethrin | If not, then any files you delete will just be kept on the other side |
| 21:09.33 | mozrat | stephanb: We have RAID on the server :-) (Their budget did stretch to that thankfully) |
| 21:10.08 | mozrat | Wethrin: and if I don't specify --delete it will keep a copy of everything forever more? |
| 21:10.38 | Wethrin | Yes. Or just write a filesystem with builtin version control |
| 21:11.10 | Wethrin | .oO(CVSfs) |
| 21:11.30 | morsing | :-) |
| 21:12.02 | mozrat | If the server wasn't already built that would be a good idea....... |
| 21:13.53 | zachary | evening highbury |
| 21:14.32 | mozrat | Wethrin: I've been using dump up 'till now, but Linus tells me it's dangerous |
| 21:15.05 | Wethrin | Meh. People have been using dump for decades |
| 21:15.13 | stephanb | k everybody, enough computing for today. cya all l8r |
| 21:15.35 | morsing | CU |
| 21:15.35 | Wethrin | nn stephanb |
| 21:16.25 | stephanb | thanks |
| 21:16.30 | mozrat | Wethrin: http://tinyurl.com/x0rl |
| 21:16.49 | mozrat | Wethrin: exactly... what does he know |
| 21:16.54 | mozrat | ;-) |
| 21:18.04 | *** part/#gllug stephanb (~frog@dsl-80-46-198-52.access.uk.tiscali.com) |
| 21:18.26 | Wethrin | Well, he has a point about mounted filesystems |
| 21:18.42 | Wethrin | Quite simply, if the data changes, you get inconsistencies |
| 21:19.25 | mozrat | Its a partition containing Maildirs, so incoming mail during the dump is reasonably likely |
| 21:20.13 | Wethrin | Yes. Shut down your mail server, unmount, dump, mount, restart mail server |
| 21:20.19 | mozrat | Maybe just a decent bash script with tar and mail would be OK |
| 21:20.38 | Wethrin | You still have the same problems |
| 21:21.02 | mozrat | Wethrin: but if the script craps out somewhere I'm left with the mail server down. The client would probably notice before I did. |
| 21:21.43 | Bitch | Wethrin: Hiya, sorry for the late reply. |
| 21:21.54 | Bitch | Getting very drunk with house mates... |
| 21:22.02 | Wethrin | :) |
| 21:22.11 | Bitch | Wethrin: Hiya, sorry for the late reply. |
| 21:22.36 | morsing | G'nite |
| 21:22.39 | Wethrin | nn |
| 21:22.42 | Bitch | Wethrin: wot u up to? |
| 21:23.11 | Wethrin | Still building up my new system |
| 21:23.35 | Bitch | well off to get even mre pissed!! |
| 21:23.41 | Bitch | have a good evening |
| 21:24.09 | Wethrin | You too :) |
| 21:24.14 | Wethrin | Come to Gllug meeting next week |
| 21:24.28 | Bitch | what day? |
| 21:24.33 | Wethrin | Saturday |
| 21:24.44 | Bitch | have a mates party to go too |
| 21:24.46 | Bitch | :P |
| 21:24.46 | Wethrin | /topic |
| 21:24.52 | Wethrin | So? >;-) |
| 21:24.54 | Bitch | soz, but previous plans and all |
| 21:25.08 | Wethrin | sparrowd: Hmm......FreeBSD might be better for it |
| 21:25.24 | Wethrin | Net isn't designed to be the nippiest system in the world |
| 21:25.32 | sparrowd | Wethrin : agreed, nut nBSD is already up and running on this box |
| 21:25.40 | Bitch | ta ra |
| 21:25.46 | sparrowd | laters Bitch |
| 21:25.54 | Wethrin | have fun, Bitch |
| 21:26.01 | Bitch | you too guys. xx |
| 21:26.35 | mozrat | Wethrin: Cheers, I'm off now |
| 21:26.41 | Wethrin | c'ya later, then |
| 21:26.41 | mozrat | Bye everyone |
| 21:26.54 | sparrowd | Wethrin : daemon wise, what kind of set up do you recommend? |
| 21:27.09 | Wethrin | qmail :) |
| 21:27.12 | *** part/#gllug mozrat (~simonmorr@host81-130-55-97.in-addr.btopenworld.com) |
| 21:27.41 | sparrowd | I was already thinking about qmail, but what else (for the actuall recievership of email)? |
| 21:28.09 | Wethrin | qmail receives email |
| 21:28.24 | Cope | sparrowd: mutt :o) |
| 21:28.30 | sparrowd | yeah, I meant the user spave receivership |
| 21:28.50 | Wethrin | Squirrelmail, mutt, etc. |
| 21:28.55 | sparrowd | Cope : for me -- yes |
| 21:28.56 | Wethrin | Or do you mean, what POP server? |
| 21:29.12 | sparrowd | Wethrin : I am going to be offering pop & imap |
| 21:29.23 | Cope | courier for imap |
| 21:29.27 | Wethrin | qmail has a pop server that understands Maildir |
| 21:29.58 | sparrowd | is there likely to be a good how to out there somewhere (for the whole setup) |
| 21:30.22 | sparrowd | I'd also like to get some filtering in there, and an anti-virus |
| 21:30.52 | Wethrin | Hehhh :) |
| 21:31.09 | Wethrin | Wait a bit, and I'll write up what I've done on my server |
| 21:32.19 | sparrowd | thanks |
| 21:42.51 | Marios_ | which kernel ? |
| 21:43.05 | Wethrin | OpenBSD_3_4-stable |
| 21:43.10 | Marios_ | hmm |
| 21:43.15 | Marios_ | I thought 2.6 |
| 21:43.19 | Wethrin | Bah. |
| 21:43.25 | Wethrin | Why would I want that? |
| 21:43.38 | Marios_ | it has some improvements over 2.4 |
| 21:43.54 | Wethrin | But I'm not tending to use 2.4 either |
| 21:44.27 | Marios_ | you are more like a BSD guy ;) |
| 21:45.40 | Wethrin | Yes :) |
| 21:45.53 | Marios_ | hehhehe |
| 21:46.06 | Wethrin | 'tis nicer, IMO |
| 21:46.18 | Marios_ | what are the advantages of FreeBSD or OpenBSD from Linux ? |
| 21:47.10 | Wethrin | Depends what you want, really. If you're happy with Linux, stick with it. |
| 21:47.35 | murble | Marios: some people think it is more l33t to run FreeBSD or somthing. |
| 21:47.41 | Wethrin | They do sometimes have better drivers, or have driver support earlier than Linux. |
| 21:47.49 | Wethrin | murble: But those people are f00ls |
| 21:48.22 | murble | Wethrin: and sometimes the other way around. |
| 21:48.29 | Marios_ | hehehehe |
| 21:48.32 | Wethrin | True :) |
| 21:48.36 | Wethrin | They are also fools. |
| 21:48.37 | murble | e.g. 3ware raid controllers |
| 21:48.54 | murble | and frequently you get better support on linux for stuff like that. |
| 21:48.57 | Wethrin | Oh that :) |
| 21:49.11 | Wethrin | Yes, but that's because Linux is big and famous. |
| 21:49.23 | Wethrin | It's the Microsoft of the Free Software world |
| 21:49.30 | murble | Wethrin: right. |
| 21:50.32 | Marios_ | hahhahahahh I like that....the Microsoft of the Free Software ;) |
| 21:50.51 | Wethrin | But for firewalling, I'd use OpenBSD; no contest with anything else |
| 21:51.50 | Marios_ | funny page --> http://reviewed.homelinux.org/howtos/l33t/#toc1 |
| 21:55.01 | Wethrin | Hm. A touch under 8 minutes to build the kernel |
| 21:58.56 | Wethrin | Mm. Very quick to boot. And it Just Works(TM) |
| 21:59.10 | Wethrin | No faffing about with reinstalling boot loaders |
| 22:04.00 | murble | Wethrin: 8 minutes, that is like a life time. |
| 22:04.11 | murble | (of a very short lived createre) |
| 22:04.20 | Wethrin | Yes. It's a 1GHz CPU, though |
| 22:05.20 | Wethrin | And not particularly nippy hard drives |
| 22:15.26 | Cope | Wethrin: No need to reinstall boot loader with grub, especially if you symlink /vmlinuz |
| 22:19.31 | Wethrin | Bah. Newfangled software :) |
| 22:23.12 | Wethrin | OpenFirmware!!! |
| 22:23.21 | Wethrin | That is the Right Way of booting systems |
| 22:23.59 | murble | Wethrin: no, it is just a way. |
| 22:24.30 | Wethrin | But it's much nicer than how a PC boots |
| 22:25.00 | Cope | Well, I was dead against changing from lilo, but gave grub a go, and I think its fantastic. |
| 22:26.39 | Wethrin | How long does an OpenBSD build take? |
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| 22:28.51 | Wethrin | 'lo Simon |
| 22:29.30 | mozrat | hi |
| 22:31.07 | mozrat | so you work in Hammersmith with Roger? |
| 22:31.31 | Wethrin | Sometimes, yes |
| 22:32.14 | mozrat | i was there the other week getting the vmware box |
| 22:32.23 | Wethrin | Cool :) |
| 22:35.32 | mozrat | ouch.... http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/west_midlands/3249252.stm |
| 22:35.36 | Wethrin | Hm? |
| 22:36.05 | murble | mozrat: only a glancing blow. |
| 22:36.08 | Wethrin | Oh. Yes. |
| 22:36.42 | mozrat | murble: a glancing blow from a firework may still cause some discomfort |
| 22:45.17 | mozrat | packages.debian.org being down is putting a dampner on my fun :-( |
| 22:47.16 | Wethrin | Heh. |
| 22:47.27 | Wethrin | Use a bteter distro, then :) |
| 22:47.40 | Marios_ | use Fedora ;) |
| 22:47.48 | Wethrin | No :) |
| 22:48.03 | Marios_ | Wethrin << I know where you mind goes |
| 22:48.05 | Marios_ | :) |
| 22:48.12 | Wethrin | Slackware |
| 22:48.17 | Marios_ | hehehhe |
| 22:48.22 | cupis | mozrat: apt-cache show apt-file |
| 22:48.25 | Marios_ | what |
| 22:48.32 | Marios_ | what's wrong with Fedora ? |
| 22:51.57 | Marios_ | I have it for a week now with no problems |
| 22:55.26 | Cope | cupis: What does that do? |
| 22:55.49 | cupis | Cope: apt-file - APT package searching utility -- command-line interface |
| 22:56.43 | Cope | cupis: Ah cool, so since packages is down, that can be used instead. |
| 22:57.33 | cupis | Cope: exactly. Between aptitude, apt-cache search, and apt-file search, you can have all the functionality of packages.debian.org, without packages.debian.org. |
| 23:14.35 | Cope | Who is 'Tom Dunmore'? |
| 23:18.05 | Wethrin | Hmm.....cleared out about 1.5GB of disk space by running 'make clean' |
| 23:32.14 | sparrowd | Wethrin : did you write up the MX stuff? |
| 23:33.25 | Wethrin | Nope - it'll take me some time, as it's not highest priority ATM |
| 23:33.31 | sparrowd | lol :-) |
| 23:33.41 | sparrowd | meanwhile, what should I start building? |
| 23:34.03 | Wethrin | Uni work takes priority, then actually getting the system to a usable state :) |
| 23:34.24 | Wethrin | Well, if you want to use qmail, there's a lot of documentation to read |
| 23:35.17 | murble | Wethrin: oh have you installed it? |
| 23:35.42 | Wethrin | Yes |
| 23:42.25 | Jenson | Cope: lol, you havent given up yet |
| 23:42.25 | Marios_ | hello Jenson |
| 23:42.52 | Jenson | hya Marios_ |
| 23:42.57 | Wethrin | Mmm. Line noise. |
| 23:43.35 | Jenson | Wethrin: you're up late |
| 23:44.04 | Wethrin | No I'm not |
| 23:44.30 | Marios_ | guys..what is the website for Dish service in London ?? |
| 23:44.31 | Cope | Jenson: Of course not. Its working, and I am learning more. |
| 23:44.40 | Wethrin | Dish service? |
| 23:44.46 | Marios_ | Satellite TV |
| 23:45.05 | Jenson | sky.co.uk i assume |
| 23:45.07 | Wethrin | Why didn't you say so? :) |
| 23:45.10 | Marios_ | thanx |
| 23:45.16 | Jenson | or telewest.co.uk is cable i think |
| 23:45.30 | Marios_ | I thought you call it Dish |
| 23:45.33 | Wethrin | Or just go to the pub instead of watching TV |
| 23:45.50 | Wethrin | Isn't dish service where you call someone in to do the washing up? |
| 23:46.11 | Jenson | Marios_: yeh, sky dish |
| 23:46.46 | Marios_ | hahhahahahahah |
| 23:47.06 | Marios_ | Wethrin << yeah ...you call the dishwasher |
| 23:47.16 | Wethrin | Nyerkk. Building Perl time |
| 23:47.43 | Marios_ | this Sky thing...you need subscription.... |
| 23:47.47 | Jenson | yeh |
| 23:47.56 | Wethrin | Plus TV licence fee |
| 23:48.02 | Marios_ | is there any free dish ? like you just install the dish and get free channels ? |
| 23:48.26 | Wethrin | You can get some digital TV channels free |
| 23:48.31 | Jenson | yeh |
| 23:48.32 | Wethrin | But they're all crap |
| 23:48.34 | Jenson | freeview |
| 23:48.47 | Wethrin | (apart from some of the ones you get on normal terrestrial) |
| 23:48.56 | Marios_ | not the freeview... |
| 23:49.18 | Marios_ | I am talking about some satellite stations that broadcast in the UK and they are free |
| 23:49.36 | Wethrin | Yes, but why, when it's all shit? :) |
| 23:49.38 | Marios_ | and you get them by just installing the dish...no subscription required |
| 23:49.39 | Wethrin | Save your money. |
| 23:50.05 | Marios_ | it is not for me.. |
| 23:50.19 | Wethrin | Get a good book instead. |
| 23:50.24 | Marios_ | lol |
| 23:51.12 | Wethrin | Or do some self-learning. Programming is good. Or soldering. |
| 23:51.22 | Wethrin | Or even go to the pub. |
| 23:51.44 | Marios_ | man ...IT IS NOT FOR ME |
| 23:51.50 | Marios_ | :) |
| 23:51.59 | Wethrin | What? You're not a pub person? |
| 23:52.13 | murble | Wethrin: think he'll fit into london? |
| 23:52.13 | Clyphox | Hopla |
| 23:52.13 | Marios_ | I mean the Dish thing is not for me |
| 23:52.28 | Wethrin | murble: Dunno.....if he's not a pub person.... |
| 23:52.38 | Marios_ | ohh pub is my favorite place |
| 23:52.44 | Wethrin | Oh good :) |
| 23:52.47 | Marios_ | I used to work for years in pubs |
| 23:52.57 | Jenson | Clyphox: heya, you going to gllug next week?/ |
| 23:53.11 | Clyphox | dunno |
| 23:55.57 | Jenson | k, you let me know? |
