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00:22.33pawelszuts?
00:23.49Jenson|Awaygood night everyone
00:24.22Marios_nighty
00:25.07Jenson|AwayMarios_: when is it your coming to london on holiday?
00:25.23Marios_I am coming on December 25th
00:25.44Jenson|Awayk then, we must try to arrange to meet up
00:26.20Marios_yeah sure
00:26.24Marios_it would be fun
00:26.34LeedsUnix Timeshare System - the Unix kernel
00:26.42Jenson|Awayanyway, seeya
00:26.49Marios_bye Jens
00:27.15Marios_Leeds << which Unix ?>
00:29.15Leedsguess :-)
00:29.25Marios_too many to guess
00:30.04Marios_Leeds << nooooooooo life is better without these kind of websites....better read a .net manual ;)
00:30.23Leedshow many Unix kernels do you think I have the opportunity to rebuild?
00:30.50Leedsthey even have the Protocols!
00:31.59Marios_berkley ?
00:32.36pawelszsomebody know what's happen with BeOS code?
00:32.39Leedsof the Elders of Zion
00:32.51Leedspawelsz: nothing... Palm have it locked in a vault somewhere :-(
00:32.59Leedsthey also have Nazi-style cartoons!
00:33.24Marios_oh God
00:33.58Marios_give the website :)
00:34.59Leedshmmm... are you sure?
00:35.14pawelszLeeds: argh.
00:35.47Leedsooh, and a dollop of Holocaust denial as well
00:36.15pawelszit was be nice gui.
00:36.21Marios_yeah let us see
00:36.26pawelszfine to desktop.
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00:53.06pawelszLeeds: maybe petition to open code and move to open licen.?
00:53.21Leedspawelsz: what, Solaris?
00:53.31pawelszhihi.
00:53.35pawelszsolaris too.
00:53.36pawelsz;-)
00:53.42pawelszLeeds: BeOS.
00:53.45Leedsoh, that
00:53.56Leedsthere was a petition, I think... but it didn't go anywhere
01:00.11pawelszsleep 1200 && killall -9 xmms && apm -s
01:00.23pawelszchill.
01:00.30Leedsnight man :-)
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08:52.16Jensonmorning
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09:00.22Jensonmorning mozrat
09:00.29mozratmorning!!!
09:00.45Jensonif you're looking for help, im not helpful lol
09:00.58mozratNo probs... just lurking.
09:01.02Jensoncool
09:01.32mozratWhere are you at the mo?
09:03.10Jensonits alright, i was talking to my silly boyfriend who forgot his glasses anyway
09:08.04JDhi
09:08.30Jensonheya JD
09:09.58Jensonhmm, my boy/f has some weird love poem from a mate of his
09:14.43Jensonhe says its from his mate Mark's mother when she was drunk lol
09:17.28mozratyikes....
09:17.38Jensonheh
09:17.43Jensonwell, thats my boy/f for ya
09:18.08mozratare you going to post it (maximum embarrasement for bf)
09:18.26Jensonlol no
09:18.41Jensonthis is his pc anyway
09:18.46Jensonhe's at work
09:19.00mozratahh.
09:20.08Jensonif i wanted to be incriminating, id just leave his collection of porn mags and linux mags laying around lol, the geek
09:20.35Jensonnot that he uses linux
09:20.48Jensonhis mandrake install is dead, i oughta fix it
09:21.08mozratwhats up with it?
09:21.53Jensoni dunno, i havent really looked, other than the fact it doesnt boot
09:24.56mozratI have soo many open support calls open it's untrue
09:25.02mozratIts going to take me a month
09:25.16Jensonyou a tech support guy?
09:25.22mozratUh hu
09:25.36Jensonheh cool, im a cleaner looking for a better job
09:26.11Jensonk
09:29.53Jensonyay, ive found my birthday card, it was my birthday yesterday, but we lost my card and present in the pile of mess on the floor
09:35.52mozratOh happy birthday!!
09:36.00Jensonty
09:36.37mozratMay i ask how old (or is that a forbidden question. If so just lie)
09:36.45Jenson19
09:37.03mozratCool..... spring chicken!
09:46.28mozratWe had a power failure yesterday, and the building is in chaos this morning. Lots of 4-way power extensions broken.
09:49.53Jensonoh fun
09:50.52mozratNope.... no fun!
09:51.51Jensonyeh
09:52.50Jensonanyway, im off, need to go to a mates place
09:52.55Jensonwell, and tescos
09:52.57JensonBBL
09:53.00mozratOK.. have a good time
09:53.08Jensonyeh, have a nice day :)
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10:28.16Xiaoqihihi
10:28.22mozrathoho
10:28.32irvined_yoyo
10:29.18mozratUmm. Ok.. Hello
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11:08.59mozratI'm using Evolution 1.4.5 on Debian and it's acting like a dog at the moment
11:09.04mozratCrashing every 5 mins
11:19.47gregjkmail
11:23.25ClyphoxMoin
11:23.43mozratSorry... ardent GNOME user.
11:25.14mozratI thinking about Pine with the Maildir patch
11:25.21mozratpossibly
11:25.47gregjbrrr
11:25.50gregjevolution
11:27.21mozratI've never had any problems before with it. Maybe I should go back a few versions.
11:28.15gregjit hangs too often for me
11:28.30gregjwhat is address of decent local ircnet server ?
11:30.35irvined_mozrat, i'm using 1.4.5 without too many bugs.,
11:30.59mozratMine crashes mainly on LDAP lookups
11:31.02irvined_1) it doesnt do printing, it just crashes consistantly, 2) if my net connection is busy my router forgets the connection and drops it form the NAT list, so that kinda borks it a bit,
11:31.13irvined_ahh. I havent tried ldap yet.
11:31.37gregjit crashes for me on anything
11:31.44gregjespecially with imap folders.
11:32.02mozratShame though 'cos the interface is quite tidy
11:32.03irvined_i find it ok with imap, except when the connection is reset.
11:32.14irvined_I think a lot of the problems spawn from other libs you have installed(or not)
11:32.18irvined_what branch are you using?
11:32.39gregjdebian unstable package in my case
11:32.46mozratmy machine is installed from the Gnoppix distro (at the moment) and it came with that
11:33.40gregjso it is debian unstable
11:34.06mozratI guess so. Like I said I may roll it back to a more stable version
11:36.11irvined_mozrat hmmm.
11:36.22irvined_i'm running unstable and its ok, its not great, but its ok.
11:36.25irvined_but then i dont use ldap.
11:37.10mozratThats the only time it crashes, so maybe thats the difference
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12:51.36JDhi
12:51.43mozratJD: Hello!
13:03.57ClyphoxMoo
13:04.43JDmoonakl
13:19.55resuDaedquack
13:25.20mozratwoof
13:25.35JDgrrr
13:26.01mozratDamn fleas
13:26.30Clyphoxfleas are fun to drown
13:32.21eye69Bugger...since accessing my exchange inbox from Outlook 2003 I can no longer access it from Evolution. "This folder can't contain messages"
13:33.56Xiaoqihihi
13:33.56pawelsz.
13:34.03mozrateye69: Did you access it in Evolution through IMAP4
13:34.15eye69mozrat: Yes
13:34.29eye69However, I can still access it with both Thunderbird and mutt through IMAP
13:34.47mozratmozrat: With IMAP clients there is a setting [Folder Prefix}
13:35.10mozrateye69: Maybe you should confirm that whatever it is in mutt is the same in Evol
13:35.46eye69Yeah, know. Haven't had to touch that before though. I've accessed it several times using Outlook 2000, and this hasn't happened. I'm not specifying a folder prefix either in Thunderbird, Evolution or mut.
13:35.50eye69mutt
13:36.13eye69I have subfolders to the inbox, and those are still working.
13:36.34mozratOh, just the INBOX can't contain messages?
13:36.54eye69Exactly
13:37.03mozratYou were right..... Bugger
13:37.31eye69I'll use Thunderbird for now, and delete/recreate the inbox later
13:37.55eye69Need Evolution for syncing of the palm
13:45.10mozrateye69: I wonder if this is it:
13:45.12mozrathttp://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;826808&Product=out2003
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14:06.24pawelszLeeds: :-)
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14:06.36Leedshi
14:06.43pawelszsomebody test bochs?
14:07.16pawelszi want use this to try some linux distribution.
14:07.58pawelszvmware is too expensive.
14:09.09WethrinHi
14:09.12WethrinBochs is slow
14:09.28nasratplex86 might be a better bet if on an x86 box
14:09.43nasrator uml
14:11.12WethrinHow do you find out the length of an array of strings in C?
14:11.24pawelszplex86.. i don't hear about this.
14:11.39WethrinSay, I've got int main(int argv, char *argc[], char *envp[])
14:11.50WethrinHow do I go about finding the number of items in envp?
14:12.27irvined_how do i set the domainname on a debian system?
14:12.35Wethrinirvined_: First, install Slackware...
14:12.55eye69irvined_: /etc/resolv.conf
14:13.01pawelsznasrat: but i see, last release is little older.
14:13.16pawelsz17-Nov-2002
14:13.19pawelsz;-)
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15:17.13mozrat_Hmmm. The IRC server just cut me off, and I can't reconnect as my preferred nickname
15:17.17mozrat_How annoying
15:18.32mozrat_How can I get it to logoff my mozrat nickname so I can logon correctly??
15:18.48irvined_msg nickserv ghost or something like that
15:19.43mozrat_Thanks irvined_
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15:38.06jason_ukfsnafternoon all
15:38.14mozratHi Jason
15:51.28irvined_if anybody's interested i've made a cut down browser.jar for mozilla firebird, its for in a web kiosk and available form http://www.irvined.co.uk/firebird.shtml
16:12.51Leedsjazz... smooth...
16:21.17irvined_Nice....
16:25.46Leedsactually, more like blues guitar :-)
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18:12.12JDis it me or is there soemthing about female bassists?
18:13.16Leedsyou mean the large wooden instrument?
18:14.00JDno as in the bass version of an electric guitar
18:18.08Leedsah - long powerful instrument :-)
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19:35.53cozmonorthello
19:36.11Marios_hey cozmonort
19:36.22cozmonorthello Marios_
19:36.58cozmonortJenson told me ur a greek dude new here
19:38.42Marios_yeah
19:38.51Marios_are you greek too?
19:39.17cozmonortyeah, born in london though, but i do speak it
19:39.24Marios_cool
19:39.32cozmonorturself
19:39.41Marios_born and raised in Cyprus
19:39.53Marios_then came in US 5 years ago for studies
19:40.32cozmonortwhere r u now ?
19:41.03Marios_Michigan
19:42.57cozmonorthi nasrat
19:43.19Marios_so from where in Greece are you from?
19:43.58cozmonortmy mother is from Corithos and my father is from athens
19:44.09Marios_cool
19:44.39cozmonortwhat are/where u studying in the US ?
19:45.19Marios_Western Michigan University.... MSc. in Computer Science
19:56.18cozmonorthi babe
19:56.22Jensonheya baby
19:56.34Jensonoh i see you two have met :)
19:56.43cozmonortyeah :)
19:56.51Marios_heheh yeah
19:57.09pawelsz.
19:57.29Jensoni now have 4 case badges on my pc
19:57.29cozmonortJenson: im checking through my emails and doing that quiz u sent me myself
19:57.44Jensonwhich quiz darling?
19:58.37cozmonortthe 1 on gURL.com
19:58.49Jensonthe aura one?
19:58.52Jensonthat was a while ago
20:00.06cozmonortyeah, but this is the first time ive checked my emails sice i got back :P
20:00.55Jensonlol
20:01.13Jensonwell, thats coz Duncan did something evil to your keyboard
20:01.35cozmonorthehehe, dont remind me :P
20:01.44cozmonortove my new one so its ok
20:01.54Marios_I don't know how to get home today ...
20:01.56Jensonthat is a gorgeous keyboard init
20:02.06cozmonortyeah
20:02.07Marios_it is snowing very bad outside
20:02.17cozmonortMarios_arg
20:04.00JensonBRB
20:04.04cozmonortk
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20:18.44Jensonoh, back BTW, went to find washing and put in machine
20:18.59Jensonheya Seamus
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20:22.38Jensonhiya stephanb
20:22.55cozmonorthi stepahnb
20:23.28stephanbhello hello
20:24.21stephanbhow are thingz ?
20:24.59cozmonortnorm, work home. loking forward to time off work
20:25.00Jensonalright ty
20:25.11Jensonbaby, you've been at home all weekend lol
20:25.57cozmonortyeah, still looking forward to more time at home or out :)
20:26.57Jensonor with me
20:27.30cozmonortespecially with u darling
20:27.38stephanbawwwww
20:27.55cozmonortthx stephanb :)
20:27.56irvinedEvening all
20:28.05cozmonorthello irvined
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20:28.10irvinedHows it going?
20:28.34Jensonhiya irvined
20:28.36Jensonhiya Leeds
20:28.45Leedshey Jenson, hey all
20:28.52cozmonorthi Leeds
20:29.31stephanbbtw has anybody here tried morphix ?
20:30.40pawelszhi Leeds.
20:30.42pawelsz:-)
20:30.54irvinedHi leeds. Hows life?
20:31.01Leedsand hey pawelsz, irvined and cozmonort
20:31.19stephanbhi pawelsz, irvined and leeds
20:31.25Marios_Hey Leeds
20:31.28Leedsirvined: pretty good :-) things going well at work, and going to Paris on Thursday :-)
20:31.59Leedsand hey stephanb and Marios_...
20:32.04pawelszi burn it today.
20:32.17pawelszbut i'm little scary.
20:32.24pawelszwhen i reading about installation.
20:32.46pawelszi prefer more clickable installations.
20:32.55Jensonpawelsz: i like text based ones
20:33.27pawelszno, no. :-) i'm not like anacondna.
20:33.29pawelszor sth.
20:34.06pawelszbut i like situation when installator is little halpful.
20:34.17pawelszs/hal/hel/
20:34.31Jensonthe mandrale gui installer is confusing, but the text based one is easy
20:34.44Jensonnot that i'd rewcommend mandrake, when running it with kde, its slow
20:35.06pawelszi like to put some linux faster.
20:35.16pawelszthen confiure everything.
20:36.02Leedsslackware slackware slackware! :-)
20:36.04pawelszhm, i think pld/slackware/freebsd installers is good thing.
20:36.07pawelszbut..
20:36.21Jensoni like the slackware installer
20:36.24pawelszi hear sth about new freebsd installer.
20:36.39pawelszgraphic.
20:36.42pawelsz(sic!)
20:38.56pawelszLeeds: i was be slack users, from 4.0 to 8.0. (funny jump from 4 to 7).
20:39.07irvinedLeeds, whats the occasion?
20:40.46pawelszbut when I had some biz, many clients, may machines, tux-based-routers, argh, doing up-to-date on every machine was be little problematic.
20:40.49pawelsz:-/
20:40.54pawelszbut..
20:40.55pawelsz;-)
20:41.04pawelszlast time i try sweret.
20:41.43pawelszpatrick put this to official root?
20:42.34stephanbwhilst everybody here, can i have your opinion(s) on what distro runs nicely on "old" hardware (300MHz PII)
20:42.49Jensonstephanb: Slack
20:42.57JensonBut we've already discussed this
20:43.02Leedsirvined: a concert... and... why the hell not? :-)
20:43.02stephanbvector linux ? morphix ? redhat+blackbox ? Slack
20:43.07Leedsslack
20:43.28Jensonstephanb: Trust my opinion darling :)
20:43.28stephanbJenson: yes doctor Jenson, but i like second opinions :-)
20:43.45Jensonstephanb: ask Sylvia :P
20:44.03pawelszLeeds: can you answer for my question? ;-p
20:44.30Leedspawelsz: about sweret?
20:44.34stephanbJenson: she's a chemist, shes hasnt a clue about 'puters
20:44.37pawelszuhm.
20:44.39pawelsz:-)
20:44.42Jensonstephanb: yeh, well
20:46.10pawelszs/think/thinking/
20:46.16pawelszgues?
20:46.19pawelsz;p
20:47.23Leedswonder
20:48.14pawelszLeeds: uh, and what with sweret?
20:48.15pawelsz;p
20:49.12irvinedLeeds, nothing even remotely strange about that. who you going to see/
20:50.02Leedsirvined: I didn't mean it was strange - I meant it as in "Why go" "Why not?  I'm free and single and Paris is pretty easy to get to, and I've got plenty of holiday time to take from work" :-)
20:50.26LeedsAn Israeli singer/group called Noa
20:50.39irvinedCool.
20:52.10Leedsalthough she does sing in English (she grew up in New York - also sings in Hebrew, Arabic, French and Spanish at least), she's quite successful in Europe and unknown here... she's only played in the UK twice that I know of - I was there both times, and went backstage to meet the band last year :-)
20:52.26irvinedExcellent.
20:52.44irvinedThe UK music market is strange, you can get so many really well known bands pass right by
20:52.57Leedsyeah...
20:53.20Leedsyou know the film Life is Beautiful - Italian, won a couple of Oscars, a comedy about the Holocaust?
20:53.50Marios_awesome movie
20:54.14Marios_way better with subtitles rather than english dialogs
20:54.18Leedsshe sang the title song - In English, Hebrew and one or two other languages
20:54.19irvinedYeah. Havent seen it though.
20:54.22Leedsof course subtitles...
20:55.01Marios_I own very few DVDs...and La vita et bella is one of them
20:55.39LeedsI should get hold of a copy... I recorded it from the TV a while ago, but I lent the tape to a cousin and I've not seen it since... and I've now lent my VCR to someone :-)
20:55.52Marios_lol
20:56.40Leedsand... now my TiVo is unhappy :-(
20:57.21Marios_Leeds << what is UK's DVD region ?
20:57.46Leedsuh... 2?  Europe/Japan...
20:57.53Jensonyeh
20:57.54Jenson2
20:58.14Marios_ok
20:58.21JensonLeeds: you still not fixed the tivo
20:58.23Leedsmost people have non-regioned players though
20:58.30Marios_yeah...
20:58.33Marios_I should get one
20:58.34LeedsJenson: got to replace one of the hard-drives, I think
20:58.39Marios_mine is only region 1
20:58.50LeedsMarios_: to clarify - most players sold in the UK are non-regioned...
20:59.39Marios_ohhhhh
20:59.53Marios_and of course this is not legal right
21:00.17Leedsit's perfectly legal, AFAIK
21:01.27Marios_how come?
21:01.47Marios_that's why they divided the world in regions
21:02.39Leedsyeah, but it's not a legal thing - it's a business thing...
21:02.43gregjguys, anyone know a good , public ircnet server in UK ?
21:02.53Leedsin some ways it could even be illegal to enforce regions
21:03.26gregjnot under DCMA
21:03.50highburymost high street retailers do not sell multi-region DVD players
21:03.56Leedswe're not under the DCMA
21:04.02gregjsort of
21:04.07gregjwhole world seems to be
21:04.09Marios_DCMA is only in the USA
21:04.21pawelszwhat i mind ,,not under DCMA''?
21:04.23pawelszs/i/u/
21:04.42gregjshit, i am not able to connect to any public ircnet server in this country
21:04.52gregj"not authorized connection"
21:04.54gregjwtf
21:05.10pawelszgregj: ircnet.demon.co.uk 6665
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21:05.23gregjnope
21:05.27gregjit does not work as well
21:05.37pawelszhm.
21:05.45gregji am not their customer
21:06.16pawelszi use this server at zen, ptsream and i dont have any problems.
21:06.30gregjwhat a *^%*$&%$ country
21:06.44pawelszs/sream/stream/
21:14.04gregjfsck
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21:27.06Jensonwb stephanb
21:50.33WethrinFoo
21:51.18Leedsdon't mind if I do
21:51.31Jensonhiya Wethrin
21:51.46Jensonoh well, im off, need to put clean bed covers on, shower, and sleep. Night guys
21:52.14Leedsstrange how different Jenson is from me...
21:52.35cozmonortgoodnight honey sleep well
21:52.41JensonLeeds: what?
21:52.51Jensonnight cozmonort, go get some sleep baby
21:52.53Leedsclean bedding, shower and sleep? :-)
21:53.06murbleWethrin: bar
21:53.08cozmonortyeah will do
21:53.15JensonLeeds: i normally change bedding at the weekend, but i wasnt here
21:53.15Wethrinmurble: Definitely. On Friday?
21:53.30murbleWethrin: long way away, and i've got a job to apply for by then.
21:53.48WethrinYou will need a beer after a week of job hunting
21:53.51Wethrin:)
21:53.53cozmonorti may aswell go to bed, not much is happening. night all
21:53.59Leedsbye...
21:54.04Wethrinnn
22:00.28gregjyes ?
22:01.18WethrinPub, Friday?
22:02.07gregjit depends
22:02.12gregjif i'll have time
22:02.43WethrinELACKOFDEFINITEPEOPLE
22:03.03gregjhmm
22:03.38gregjrecently i have someone i am going out with sometimes too
22:04.49stephanbgregj: oh, so you have stopped going out on irc and msn ?
22:06.05gregj:>
22:06.37WethrinBring them to pub.
22:07.08gregjWethrin: hmm, that is an idea.but she is using bsd not linux :>
22:07.10gregjfreebsd
22:07.21WethrinI use BSD, too. :)
22:07.53gregjopenBSD
22:07.59gregjwe don't like it
22:08.00gregj:>
22:08.02WethrinAnd did use Free.
22:08.08WethrinAnyway, Dead Ringers.
22:08.11Wethrin(BBC2)
22:11.13stephanbWethrin: yeah : good point !!
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22:17.10gregjWethrin: can you burn me more futurama?
22:24.33pawelszWethrin: can I hear bbc stream via non-commercial software?
22:25.21stephanbpawelsz: i'm afraid not, realaudio or windoze only
22:26.24stephanbpawelsz: afaik only the dutch radio and CBC (canada) offer mp3 or ogg
22:27.02pawelszi have realplayer one for linux, but this is high weight.
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22:27.40stephanb??? high weight ???
22:30.47pawelszslowly, more ram.
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22:33.02Wethrinpawelsz: It was on TV, not on radio
22:33.58stephanbpawelsz: ?? what bbc tv ?? streams from the website or DVB-T ?
22:34.39pawelszi thought about radio stream.
22:34.40pawelsz;-)
22:42.21stephanbpawelsz: bbc radio streams are realaudio or windoze/ maybe some "new" channels were only available on windoze format at some point
22:43.03pawelszstephanb: hm, I read few days ago sth about BBC migrating to Liunx(?).
22:43.59stephanbpawelsz: aaah that could be because there is realaudio server software on linux.
22:44.23stephanbpawelsz: then again "the BBC" is much bigger than streaming audio and the bbc website
22:45.06stephanbpawelsz: but if the beeb is shifting some of its operations on linux, i would like to know about it, just to tickle my clients with that :-)
22:45.10pawelszhihi. it was be another information, about some education for bbc staff, howto use linux because we going to linux.
22:46.55pawelszbut I can remember where I read this, ./? i don't remember.
22:47.34pawelszs/can/cant/
22:47.37pawelszargh.
22:47.50stephanbpawelsz: well i wish i had the "managerspeak" talent to explain to my client that producers spending the day in Explorer/OUtlook/Word + quicktime dont need M$ licences for that
22:47.51pawelszdiffrent sens.
22:47.59JD_hi
22:48.08JD_hmmm
22:49.39stephanbanyway
22:50.37stephanbpawelsz: if you get mor info, or can find some sources, i am highly interested as i am in good terms with the operations manager where i work
22:53.17stephanbtime for bed / brush teeth, etc...
22:53.21stephanbbye everybody
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22:54.50mozrathey guys.... i have a postfix problem that looks obvious but....
22:54.59mozratmy aliases file isn't working at all
22:55.12mozrathere are the 2 lines relevant from /etc/postfix/main.cf
22:55.32mozratalias_maps = hash:/etc/postfix/aliases
22:55.47mozratalias_database = hash:/etc/postfix/aliases
22:56.07mozratI've added some lines to the text version of /etc/postfix/aliases
22:56.15mozratand build the hash version with
22:56.23mozratnewaliases
22:56.37mozratbut going through the telnet localhost 25 test gives
22:56.48mozrat550 <allstaff>: User unknown
22:57.59WethrinWhat does /etc/postfix/aliases contain?
22:58.17mozratLoads of default stuff but the lines I'm stuck on are:
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22:58.35mozratallstaff:                |/var/lib/mailman/mail/wrapper post allstaff
22:58.35mozratallstaff-admin:          "|/var/lib/mailman/mail/wrapper mailowner allstaff"
22:58.35mozratallstaff-request:        "|/var/lib/mailman/mail/wrapper mailcmd allstaff"
22:58.52WethrinDoesn't newliases create /etc/postfix/alises.db, or somesuch?
22:58.53mozratIts from mailman and I've removed the quotes from the first example just to see
22:59.12mozratYep. I moved the old one away and ran the command
22:59.20mozratit created a new aliases.db file
22:59.35WethrinDon't you need to specify hash:/etc/postfix/alises.db?
22:59.47mozratWhere... in main.cf
22:59.52WethrinYes
23:00.10mozratI've got the book right here and their example doesn't but hang on...
23:01.05mozratNope!
23:03.59WethrinOh.
23:04.08WethrinWhat about putting the quotes back in?
23:04.22mozratHang on a mo
23:05.39mozratNope... This used to work I'm sure, but I usually use LDAP for aliases
23:09.11WethrinWell, it'd all work nicely under qmail, probably ;-)
23:09.36mozratUnfortunately not an option for tonight ;-)
23:10.00mozratI could manage mailing lists from a simple text file, but I wanted to be flashy
23:10.39WethrinAh well
23:10.50mozratAh ha.. there is a setting in main.cf called "allow_mail_to_commands" which I haven't got
23:11.32WethrinAh
23:14.44mozratNope no good, although I think that the answer is in there somewhere.
23:14.44mozratthanks anyway
23:17.13Wethrinsorry :)
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23:20.52mozratOK.. it was the local_recipient_maps setting! Works now thanks.
23:21.49Wethrin:)

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