| 00:12.39 | Wethrin | Right. Time for bed |
| 00:12.42 | Wethrin | (about 2 hours ago) |
| 00:14.14 | Wethrin | Getting rid of the crap ones? |
| 00:16.53 | JD | no fixing the mess that sound-juicer has produced |
| 00:16.56 | Wethrin | 'night all |
| 00:17.47 | zachary | night Wethrin |
| 00:23.20 | zachary | g'night |
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| 00:53.37 | cups631 | i run rh9 and have all the security fixes installed including the latest cups. howver, i have noticed that after booting my PC with the printer on (or off) -but no jobs in the queue- netstat -atnp shows 10 times line similar to the following one: |
| 00:53.48 | cups631 | tcp 0 0 127.0.0.1:33415 127.0.0.1:631 TIME_WAIT - |
| 00:54.09 | cups631 | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:54.21 | cups631 | what gives? |
| 00:54.37 | cups631 | what's the meaning of ypcat: can't get local yp domain: Local domain name not set i get that message whenever i try to print |
| 06:25.30 | SpudULike | moin room |
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| 08:43.26 | stephen | morning SpudULike |
| 09:31.06 | zachary | Nice piece of rubbish by Howard Strauss at syllabus.com. |
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| 09:55.21 | jason_ukfsn | morning all |
| 09:55.44 | Tarragon | Moin |
| 09:55.59 | jason_ukfsn | Anyone here fancy going to see Matrix Revolutions this afternoon? |
| 10:19.25 | JD | sadly I'm stuck in training course |
| 10:33.01 | Xiaoqi | morning all |
| 10:34.29 | jason_ukfsn | morning Xiaoqi |
| 10:38.05 | Xiaoqi | hi jason_ukfsn hows you? |
| 10:39.00 | zachary | jason_ukfsn: push back matrix to the afternoon of sunday. |
| 10:39.33 | jason_ukfsn | zachary: sorry no can do. I have waited too long already and I'm busy on Sundays anyway. |
| 10:40.03 | JD | hi Xiaoqi |
| 10:40.08 | zachary | :-( |
| 10:40.10 | jason_ukfsn | I also need to schedule a cinema visit to watch LXG |
| 10:40.24 | JD | LXG? |
| 10:41.20 | jason_ukfsn | League of Extraordinary Gentlemen |
| 10:41.31 | jason_ukfsn | It's a crap acronym I know however it's what their using in the ads. |
| 10:41.31 | JD | oh I wouldn;t bother aiui |
| 10:41.49 | jason_ukfsn | Why JD? |
| 10:42.04 | JD | yet another style over stubstance film |
| 10:42.09 | JD | aiui |
| 10:43.02 | jason_ukfsn | I don't mind. I like the concept and I don't expect substance from the film equivilent of cheesy pop - I just want a fun action film from it with interesting characters |
| 10:43.14 | jason_ukfsn | I don't need no stinking story! |
| 10:43.17 | JD | fairy snuff |
| 10:43.36 | jason_ukfsn | no, thanks. I'm not into gay porn |
| 10:52.07 | Xiaoqi | hi JD |
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| 11:08.02 | jason_ukfsn | morning highbury |
| 11:08.07 | highbury | hello, just experimenting with Kopete's IRC plugin |
| 11:08.22 | JD | hi |
| 11:08.34 | highbury | morning folk |
| 11:09.38 | jason_ukfsn | Oh blast - it looks like my local cinema may be in trouble. Their phone lines have been disconnected :( |
| 11:10.12 | zachary | moin highbury |
| 11:11.58 | highbury | I made the mistake of letting NOSE 9.0 resize a partition now it doesn't recognise it :-( |
| 11:15.13 | murble | sounds fatal. |
| 11:28.58 | JD | NOSE? |
| 11:29.50 | highbury | SUSE + Novell = NOSE (accented E) |
| 11:30.47 | JD | oh |
| 11:35.21 | highbury | anybody know any filesystem de-corruption tools (other than restoring from backup) ? |
| 11:35.32 | JD | what fs? |
| 11:38.16 | jason_ukfsn | highbury: as per JD wht's the fs and also how badly corrupt is it? |
| 11:38.54 | jason_ukfsn | If it's just a matter of partition tables being fubar you can simply rewrite them - you have taken the advise I've repeated many times and written it to paper? |
| 11:39.06 | highbury | ext3, and system can't find superblock |
| 11:39.19 | JD | eeck |
| 11:39.40 | JD | you possibly want something to search the drive and look for possible superblocks and rebuild your partition table |
| 11:39.49 | highbury | I should have copy of partition table in my /etc/fstab, which is ok |
| 11:40.08 | highbury | wasn't there an app called guesspart? |
| 11:41.57 | jason_ukfsn | highbury: the partition table will only be in the fstab file if you wrote it there yourself. |
| 11:42.35 | highbury | yep jason |
| 11:42.35 | jason_ukfsn | well I take it nobody else is interested in skiving off for the afternoon to watch the new Matrix film then? |
| 11:45.44 | highbury | gpart |
| 11:46.34 | highbury | wish I could jason_ukfsn, I saw the second part in Bristol at the Imax cinema, I strongly recommend seeing that way! |
| 11:48.17 | jason_ukfsn | anyone recommend an imax in London then? |
| 11:48.17 | JD | I was going to watch reloaded on imax |
| 11:48.24 | JD | jason_ukfsn: southbank |
| 11:48.35 | JD | ie it is the only imax in london aiui |
| 11:49.17 | jason_ukfsn | and it's only showing the film from 28th Nov. That's no good to me :( |
| 11:51.19 | jason_ukfsn | London, Manchester and Bradford only :( |
| 11:51.28 | jason_ukfsn | I'll go to staples corner instead. |
| 11:57.52 | Wethrin | Morning |
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| 12:00.34 | Wethrin | hi |
| 12:00.43 | Leeds | afternoon |
| 12:03.04 | Leeds | no sign of my Panther, still... but mail is flowing again |
| 12:03.43 | Wethrin | Bah. |
| 12:04.32 | JD | hi |
| 12:04.53 | murble | Leeds: any clue as to the lead time for mac laptops? |
| 12:04.56 | Leeds | got my Indiana Jones box set through :-) |
| 12:05.33 | Leeds | murble: I think a few models are "ship today", mine had 2 weeks build time, then a week ship time (from Taiwan), I think it may be down to a week build time now |
| 12:06.36 | JD | expenses? |
| 12:07.00 | murble | JD: september salary and some expences. |
| 12:07.10 | JD | oh okay |
| 12:08.48 | murble | now just need a replacement job, and i can start complaining about work again :) |
| 12:11.00 | pawelsz | :) |
| 12:11.13 | pawelsz | hello. |
| 12:12.44 | Leeds | hi there |
| 12:13.24 | pawelsz | best regards from sweden now. ;) |
| 12:13.57 | Leeds | um... what are you doing in Sweden? |
| 12:14.44 | pawelsz | i have friends here and family. |
| 12:15.24 | Wethrin | murble: You can currently complain about being unemployed :) |
| 12:15.30 | murble | Wethrin: no i am not. |
| 12:15.37 | murble | Wethrin: no i won't |
| 12:15.49 | murble | why should i complain, i made myself unemployed! |
| 12:16.16 | Leeds | never seems to stop people complaining |
| 12:16.48 | pawelsz | brr, i hate swedish keyboards!! |
| 12:18.29 | pawelsz | unergonomic. |
| 12:19.41 | JD | murble: what did you do? |
| 12:19.45 | JD | I think I missed it |
| 12:20.04 | JD | is this the .lu company that didn;t pay you very often? |
| 12:20.59 | murble | JD: I resigned because they hadn't been paying me as frequently as they should. |
| 12:21.24 | JD | murble: I think that may wel be constructive dismissal |
| 12:21.34 | highbury | gotta try and fix this partition, back later |
| 12:21.50 | murble | JD: yeah, but once i've got my money from they i'll be happy. |
| 12:22.06 | JD | murble: go see a laywer and see if you can get even more money out of them |
| 12:22.12 | jason_ukfsn | murble: JD may be right however I suspect you already know that a claim is likely to be met with a dodgy scam to avoid payment. |
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| 12:22.16 | pawelsz | http://www.s2.org/putty/ :-) |
| 12:22.53 | murble | jason_ukfsn: if i claimed now i can waive byebye to the money i'm waiting for. |
| 12:23.42 | jason_ukfsn | I know although refusal to meet an existing debt would be strong evidence to a tribunal. |
| 12:26.10 | pawelsz | ups, i forget usb cable for my digicam. |
| 12:26.16 | pawelsz | :-( |
| 12:32.09 | Leeds | jason_ukfsn: BTW - and I don't know how it happened - we seem to have got a transaction through worldpay this morning, but when I tried to test it, it timed out on me |
| 12:33.07 | Wethrin | Gah. Formatting 40GB takes a very long timew |
| 12:33.20 | murble | Leeds: so consitent with someone DoSing them then? |
| 12:33.49 | Leeds | yes, but... I thought they'd taken the system down, rather than struggling through |
| 12:40.40 | irvined | aFTERNOON All |
| 12:40.52 | Wethrin | hI dAVID |
| 12:41.49 | irvined | My fingers are expanding or my keyboards shrinking, one of the two. |
| 12:41.58 | Wethrin | Both? |
| 12:44.52 | jason_ukfsn | Leeds: worldpay are claiming to under a massive DoS and that things should be back but slow this morning. |
| 12:45.16 | jason_ukfsn | I've managed to connect to the admin systems but I've not tested actual payment services. |
| 12:45.46 | jason_ukfsn | Given that they are supposed to have just re-engineered to massively increase capacity and resilience I am very disillusioned with them. |
| 12:45.58 | jason_ukfsn | I'm actively looking for a replacement now. |
| 12:46.52 | jason_ukfsn | Given that we now have 18 months trading history taking cards and no chargebacks I should be able to get an acceptable deal from a real bank. |
| 12:51.17 | jason_ukfsn | NatWest (who apparently provide the backend merchant accounts for worldpay) may want to keep the business and convert the account to a "real" merchant account. |
| 12:56.07 | jason_ukfsn | right I'm off. |
| 13:04.41 | JD | Wethrin: I formatted 120Gb in approx 10 seconds |
| 13:05.16 | Wethrin | Using mkfs? |
| 13:05.26 | Wethrin | I'm using the Win2000 installer, which appears to check for bad blocks |
| 13:06.06 | JD | oh right |
| 13:06.16 | JD | yeah mkfs.ext3 without badblocks |
| 13:06.27 | JD | Wethrin: win2k is much much quicker if you use an answer file |
| 13:06.47 | JD | like 15min rather than 1hour |
| 13:07.39 | Wethrin | Answer file? |
| 13:07.46 | Wethrin | To automatically answer the questions? |
| 13:07.51 | JD | yep |
| 13:08.29 | JD | plus it has SP4 as part of the install |
| 13:08.40 | JD | so you don't need to do it afterwards |
| 13:08.54 | JD | cuts a win2k install down by about 1hour per box |
| 13:09.12 | JD | I need to do a bit more work with it to do things like add drivers so I don't even have to do that |
| 13:09.35 | Wethrin | Cool |
| 13:10.38 | JD | it is fairly easy to do |
| 13:10.49 | JD | I think it took me less than a day to sort it all out |
| 13:11.01 | JD | I think I have the wrong time zone in the answer file but that is about it |
| 13:11.02 | Wethrin | ah. I guess it's useful if you're doing lots of installs |
| 13:11.09 | Wethrin | But this is only a one-off |
| 13:11.11 | JD | I could really do with getting a few more of the updates in the CD |
| 13:11.14 | murble | JD: can't you make installing win2k totally automated? |
| 13:11.25 | JD | Wethrin: we do up to 10+ a week |
| 13:11.34 | Wethrin | It's worth it for that :) |
| 13:11.44 | JD | murble: yes, but you need to give it CD key and user |
| 13:12.01 | JD | murble: which means it is tied to a particular machine |
| 13:12.05 | murble | JD: so how do people do full automated installs with that problem? |
| 13:12.17 | JD | we have it set up so it asks for the cd key |
| 13:12.30 | JD | murble: presumably they generate a CD for each machine |
| 13:12.56 | murble | JD: ouch! |
| 13:13.06 | JD | murble: exactly |
| 13:13.51 | JD | my CD asks the required 4 questions (name, company, CD key, admin password) and does the rest automatically |
| 13:14.11 | JD | plus it mans that it does an auto login so I can be quicker at installing drivers and things |
| 13:14.22 | JD | and then it gets turned off as soon as you join a domain |
| 13:14.39 | JD | I think I still need about 6 reboots to fix a win2k client |
| 13:20.50 | JD | hi Jenson |
| 13:20.57 | Jenson | heya JD how are you? |
| 13:21.03 | JD | pleased |
| 13:21.09 | JD | I've beaten the firewall |
| 13:21.36 | Jenson | well done :) |
| 13:22.12 | murble | JD: putty? |
| 13:22.32 | zachary | Anyone have a picture of the audience at a gllug lecture? Its for the banner of the new website. |
| 13:22.33 | JD | yep |
| 13:22.54 | Wethrin | zachary: Do you really want to show the Gllug audience on the front page? ;-) |
| 13:23.16 | zachary | Wethrin: Your probably right. Might be a deterant. |
| 13:23.21 | JD | we want to attract people |
| 13:23.24 | JD | not scare them |
| 13:23.31 | zachary | Well I was going to magle it a bit. |
| 13:23.32 | JD | zachary: put the pic of Jenson on the front page |
| 13:23.36 | zachary | mangle |
| 13:23.38 | JD | that will attract |
| 13:23.59 | Jenson | JD: honey, formi took one at the pub which he thinks should go on there lol; |
| 13:24.07 | JD | url? |
| 13:24.21 | zachary | JD: No, I don't want to advertize it as a brothel. |
| 13:24.28 | Jenson | zachary: oi lol |
| 13:24.40 | JD | zachary: no money involved |
| 13:24.53 | JD | besieds you need more than one whore for a brothel |
| 13:24.53 | Jenson | JD: least not lately |
| 13:25.06 | zachary | It's for the mambo, that will be www.gllug.org.uk. As soon as DNS is fixed |
| 13:26.03 | zachary | I wouldn't be too sure about that. Does one nymph count? |
| 13:26.04 | Jenson | i think a pic of the audience will appeal to geeks, but then again so might a pic of me |
| 13:26.54 | JD | zachary: nope you need to two women have sex for money in one premises for a brothel |
| 13:27.07 | JD | much like you need to kill 3 epople to be a serial killer |
| 13:28.21 | zachary | Ok, back to the picture discussion. Does anyone have one that I can use? |
| 13:28.41 | murble | JD: if it is two people you're just unlucky? |
| 13:28.51 | Jenson | zachary: a picture of what though |
| 13:28.58 | murble | JD: what happens if you call all 3 at once, does that make you a parrallel killer? |
| 13:28.59 | zachary | Especially if your paying! |
| 13:29.10 | Jenson | murble: lol |
| 13:30.11 | JD | murble: I'm just going by the scene in "the parole officer" |
| 13:30.30 | JD | zachary: you don't need to pay |
| 13:30.36 | JD | zachary: it is free apparently |
| 13:31.08 | zachary | Never mind. |
| 13:31.36 | JD | zachary: I'm not sure the wife would approve no matter how cheap it is |
| 13:32.08 | Leeds | zachary: I've got some old photos along those lines |
| 13:33.44 | Jenson | right, im off |
| 13:33.44 | Jenson | later guys |
| 13:35.53 | zachary | bbl --> lunch |
| 14:03.36 | Xiaoqi | moo |
| 14:04.16 | JD | moorst |
| 14:04.28 | Wethrin | Coors |
| 14:04.30 | Xiaoqi | valloom |
| 14:04.33 | JD | (/me has been moaned at about not using moonak) |
| 14:04.43 | Xiaoqi | huh? |
| 14:06.29 | JD | well nak isn;t a tcp flag |
| 14:06.50 | JD | so I've started using moorst instead |
| 14:08.27 | JD | -ETOOMUCHCOFFEE |
| 14:08.33 | Wethrin | ACK is a tcp flag |
| 14:09.01 | JD | Wethrin: yes but I don't want to ack |
| 14:09.04 | JD | I want to nak |
| 14:11.27 | Wethrin | Snark |
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| 14:13.21 | highbury | anybody ever tried/bought "Stellar Phoenix Linux 2.1" a commercial disk recovery tool http://www.stellarinfo.com |
| 14:14.08 | murble | no, do you have data in need of recover? |
| 14:17.57 | highbury | I tried to resize bigger at the end my disk on SUSE 9.0 and now the disk appears corrupted, (can't find superblocks) |
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| 14:20.08 | highbury | where'd they go :-( |
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| 14:21.14 | JD | well that was fun |
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| 14:25.59 | axelS | re =) |
| 14:41.41 | Leeds | which doesn't seem entirely work-safe! |
| 14:42.06 | Tarragon | No boy bodies? |
| 14:42.27 | Leeds | I didn't stay long enough to see |
| 14:43.08 | JD | Leeds: fairly safe |
| 14:43.22 | JD | you just need to put some clothes on tehm reasonably quickly |
| 14:44.52 | Tarragon | There is no right arms either |
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| 14:46.07 | JD | no I thought that |
| 14:46.13 | JD | well no left |
| 14:46.22 | JD | you can get right ones form the bottom |
| 14:46.45 | Tarragon | Yes my right their left |
| 14:46.45 | JD | assumign you don't use a body with a right arm |
| 14:46.59 | Leeds | formi: you can make IRC servers crash by logging into them? |
| 14:47.04 | formi | nope |
| 14:47.16 | formi | if i post to a long thread on the list |
| 14:47.17 | JD | Tarragon: fun isn;t it |
| 14:47.21 | formi | i kill it |
| 14:49.08 | formi | question: is there any side effect in linking a file to /dev/null ? |
| 14:51.02 | pawelsz | IMHO it be a empty file. |
| 14:51.56 | formi | that is the main effect, |
| 14:52.22 | Leeds | there should be no side effect... for fun, you could also just create the file as a node with the same type/major/minor as /dev/null :-) |
| 14:52.33 | JD | formi: you could make a device withthe same ... dammit leeds |
| 14:52.40 | Leeds | heh |
| 14:56.39 | pawelsz | Leeds: don't do it! |
| 14:56.43 | formi | MAKEDEV in this particular case |
| 14:56.57 | Leeds | pawelsz: ? |
| 14:58.05 | pawelsz | u lose all your remembrances now. |
| 14:58.21 | pawelsz | ;-( |
| 14:58.48 | Leeds | ?? |
| 14:59.44 | pawelsz | i just kiding. :-S |
| 15:00.03 | pawelsz | ok, i'm not fun. |
| 15:02.25 | Leeds | formi: for reference, it's a block device, as in "block of wood" or "blockhead" |
| 15:05.19 | pawelsz | Leeds: next time i try to be more readable. :-) |
| 15:05.35 | Leeds | fair enough :-) |
| 15:07.51 | formi | Leeds: so no point in a "block on wood brain" in /dev |
| 15:07.52 | formi | ? |
| 15:08.15 | Leeds | ? |
| 15:08.23 | Leeds | "block on wood brain"? |
| 15:09.35 | formi | irony: what a tricky thing! |
| 15:10.06 | formi | and I don't say this because of your last comment Leeds |
| 15:13.11 | formi | i would so nice you could send an email with your kernel config file, and get a mail back with the compiled kernel |
| 15:17.33 | murble | I have a slow machien running freebsd if that helps.. |
| 15:19.33 | murble | pawelsz: I'm waiting for my ibook token to clear.. |
| 15:20.43 | Leeds | murble: like a book token only more fun? :-) |
| 15:20.59 | murble | Leeds: like a cheque from ex-work so more bouncy! |
| 15:21.29 | murble | Leeds: i did talk about book budget at work, having powerbooks and ibooks in mind :) |
| 15:22.12 | Leeds | we can get macbooks as an option if we have a 'business need' for a laptop, as opposed to a PCbook... but I don't have a 'business need' |
| 15:22.17 | JD | w00t I have a bash.org quote :) #169947 |
| 15:22.23 | JD | my life is complete |
| 15:22.31 | murble | Leeds: 'cos you're not in sales? |
| 15:23.00 | Leeds | nah, some engineers and most engineering managers have laptops |
| 15:23.22 | murble | Leeds: oh a status thing :) |
| 15:23.35 | Leeds | 'business need' also depends on availablity of budget at time of asking, I think :-) |
| 15:23.37 | murble | oh high to you have to be up the hiarchy to have abusiness need :) |
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| 15:24.46 | murble | s/company/my &/ |
| 15:25.07 | formi_ | im back |
| 15:25.14 | murble | hi formi back |
| 15:25.33 | formi_ | using xp again |
| 15:25.53 | formi_ | it takes soo much time to nurse them |
| 15:26.34 | formi_ | any program around to brain wash flat-mates? |
| 15:29.12 | murble | no, but you could try putting posion in their tea. |
| 15:31.19 | formi_ | even better i could force him to drink mate, same effect no traces |
| 15:35.58 | formi_ | off to my laptop |
| 15:36.08 | formi_ | exit |
| 15:39.02 | formi | just found my flatmate when getting out of his room |
| 15:39.31 | formi | Packard Bell want ?150 for checking the laptop because the dvd stopped working |
| 15:40.08 | Leeds | http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/middle_east/3243623.stm hah |
| 15:40.18 | formi | this happened just before the warranty run out and they had to replace it |
| 15:51.23 | formi | Leeds: do you know if FreeBSD runs on a Sun JavaStation? |
| 15:51.35 | Leeds | very unlikely AFAIK |
| 15:51.43 | Leeds | but I don't know much about that |
| 15:51.58 | formi | ive been asked in another channel |
| 15:52.11 | formi | are those 64bit machines? |
| 15:52.21 | Leeds | I don't know |
| 15:52.31 | formi | fair enough |
| 15:56.16 | zachary | bbl --> store. |
| 16:16.34 | Wethrin | re |
| 16:17.35 | formi | another one |
| 16:24.24 | formi | http://www.smh.com.au/articles/2003/10/31/1067233349746.html |
| 16:26.22 | Leeds | hmm... suppose it depends on the content of the e-mail... but if the content were illegal you'd expect it to be a threatening letter situationm not a misuse of a phone |
| 16:26.56 | formi | the excuse for nicking him seems pretty lame |
| 16:27.23 | Leeds | true |
| 16:27.54 | Leeds | but, well... he's a troublemaker, a peace activist and therefore a terrorist... you have no right to argue |
| 16:28.29 | formi | talking about grabbing the bull by the horns |
| 16:28.37 | formi | http://www.smh.com.au/articles/2003/10/31/1067233349746.html |
| 16:28.59 | formi | http://www.smh.com.au/ftimages/2003/11/02/1067708080147.html |
| 16:29.07 | formi | the second one |
| 16:30.17 | Leeds | heh |
| 16:32.04 | formi | http://www.smh.com.au/ftimages/2003/11/02/1067708080151.html |
| 16:32.36 | formi | odd hair hackers convention |
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| 16:44.05 | axelS | re |
| 16:44.37 | Leeds | the ginger bloke is boring |
| 16:45.36 | formi | he kinda looks a bit "rabby" |
| 16:46.00 | Leeds | you mean rabbi? |
| 16:46.13 | formi | yeap |
| 16:46.38 | Leeds | okay, it's transliterated, but rabbi is the normal English spelling |
| 16:48.13 | formi | what's the plural for that disease usually transmitted from dogs to humas ? |
| 16:48.32 | Wethrin | rabies |
| 16:48.39 | Wethrin | There's no singular or plural as such |
| 16:49.24 | Leeds | rabbi != rabies... not in all cases, anyway |
| 16:49.49 | formi | you never know until they bite you! |
| 16:50.25 | Leeds | quite right... or until they start foaming at the mouth, although that could just be religious fervour |
| 16:50.57 | Leeds | ha ha http://www.digitalspy.co.uk/article/ds12239.html |
| 16:51.17 | formi | the read hair bloke has a resemblance to Vince |
| 16:52.10 | formi | that kind of look that implies "which planet am I on today?" |
| 16:53.17 | Leeds | yes... |
| 16:54.24 | formi | ?136, is it microshit charging one license per viewer or what? |
| 16:56.35 | formi | http://xxx.sdf-eu.org/gear/k6_server.jpg |
| 16:56.47 | formi | replace xxx with formi |
| 16:57.11 | Leeds | why |
| 16:57.11 | Leeds | ? |
| 16:57.16 | formi | somebody should permanently boot the bot!! |
| 16:57.54 | Leeds | why? |
| 16:58.24 | formi | because this is logged and from f0rmi.sdf-eu.org you can guess my email by just adding the @ in the right place |
| 16:58.47 | formi | and then spam happens! |
| 16:59.11 | Leeds | really? |
| 16:59.17 | Leeds | anyway, the logs are gzipped, so they' |
| 16:59.37 | formi | I think I've just refrased the famouns, Then shit happens! for the Internet age |
| 16:59.40 | Leeds | they're not generally easily searchable unless someone is really trying... and this is a public channel anyway |
| 16:59.50 | Leeds | heh, quite right :-) |
| 17:00.54 | formi | you need probably 1 single line of code to change the address grabbers to unzip the logs |
| 17:02.09 | highbury | we have no intention of taking away logging on this channel |
| 17:02.15 | Leeds | true... but people aren't going to do that |
| 17:02.16 | formi | you are right this is a public channel, but im talking to you, and I tend to forget that (logs) |
| 17:02.36 | Leeds | for reference, I log everything I do or see on IRC or IM |
| 17:03.25 | formi | i suppose if i want any privacy in this world, i will only be able to think to myself |
| 17:03.42 | Leeds | you mean you want privacy on stuff you do in public? |
| 17:03.51 | highbury | this is the internet nothing is private |
| 17:04.09 | highbury | otherwise it would be pointless |
| 17:04.23 | Leeds | not quite true |
| 17:04.34 | Leeds | e-mail between two individuals, for example, should be private |
| 17:04.49 | formi | if i talk to anybody on face to face, that person at some will forget what i have said |
| 17:04.54 | highbury | only if encrypted |
| 17:05.08 | formi | the internet logging will remain there for years |
| 17:05.15 | formi | be taken out of context |
| 17:05.35 | Wethrin | It would be nice if there was a !nolog option |
| 17:05.55 | formi | and whatever the fucking monkey of the authorities want to tergiverse |
| 17:06.00 | formi | it into |
| 17:06.06 | Leeds | oh, and if anyone cares, the reason I'm not using timedelta is because it's new in python 2.3 :-) good to know that the developers think enough like me that I think of a feature I need and it's been recently added :-) |
| 17:07.29 | formi | do remenber that most new technolody is developed with "negative purposes in mind" |
| 17:07.45 | Leeds | ibot lart formi |
| 17:08.40 | formi | unless you are pron junky in wich case you don't care |
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| 17:23.00 | reality_ | hi |
| 17:23.51 | Leeds | evening... |
| 17:24.57 | Leeds | what's up? |
| 17:25.33 | axelS | hi leeds |
| 17:25.33 | axelS | hello everybody |
| 17:30.07 | Wethrin | hi |
| 17:30.52 | Xiaoqi | hiya |
| 17:30.56 | Leeds | heh... MP3 player just went from a rock guitar instrumental to a Hebrew song over an accordion :-) |
| 17:32.39 | Xiaoqi | lol |
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| 17:49.42 | jason_ukfsn | hey all |
| 17:52.04 | murble | was it any good? |
| 17:55.04 | jason_ukfsn | I enjoyed it. |
| 18:01.24 | Wethrin | hi |
| 18:05.46 | eye69 | mutt |
| 18:05.48 | eye69 | Oj |
| 18:16.41 | formi | i've just only scored 22.48521% on the geek test at www.innergeek.us |
| 18:17.24 | formi | I did think having a bit mouth would get me more points |
| 18:17.51 | formi | anyway of to .... |
| 18:17.53 | murble | big? |
| 18:18.08 | formi | murble: not obvious? |
| 18:18.23 | formi | anyway off to .... |
| 18:18.27 | *** part/#gllug formi (~formi@82-35-34-114.cable.ubr01.camd.blueyonder.co.uk) |
| 18:31.47 | Wethrin | Blah |
| 18:32.22 | Xiaoqi | blah? |
| 18:32.35 | Wethrin | Blah. |
| 18:33.14 | Xiaoqi | ah. blah |
| 18:34.14 | Wethrin | Yes. |
| 18:34.25 | Xiaoqi | ok |
| 18:34.32 | Wethrin | :) |
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| 19:35.34 | Jenson | not only are there 2 mice running round my room, they were on my fucking bed |
| 19:40.17 | Wethrin | Your fucking bed? What about your sleeping bed? |
| 19:40.48 | Jenson | heh |
| 19:41.08 | Jenson | climbing on my fluffy pink teddy bear |
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| 19:56.23 | Jenson | grrr, i just phoned up Ross and he's at fireworks |
| 20:02.48 | Xiaoqi | aww |
| 20:02.59 | Xiaoqi | we couldn't go this year :( |
| 20:04.45 | Jenson | yeh |
| 20:04.46 | Jenson | well |
| 20:04.55 | Jenson | I had, for the second tim,e today fogotten |
| 20:05.10 | Jenson | and couldnt work out why Ross said he was standing in a field lol |
| 20:11.25 | Jenson | i scored 31.75542% - Total Geek on the geek test, i really dont believe im more geek than formi |
| 20:12.02 | JD | Xiaoqi: couldn;t you just look out your window? |
| 20:55.49 | JD | someone want to talk to me? |
| 20:57.08 | murble | no, why? |
| 20:57.15 | JD | damn |
| 20:57.25 | murble | unless you know of any spare jobs going. |
| 20:57.47 | Jenson | i do |
| 20:57.55 | JD | murble: we might but it does mean working for my boss |
| 20:58.02 | JD | but at least you get paid on time |
| 20:58.15 | murble | JD: but you require a driving license? |
| 20:58.23 | murble | s/you/your company/ |
| 20:58.23 | JD | er yes |
| 21:07.45 | Wethrin | hi JD |
| 21:07.54 | JD | hi Dan |
| 21:08.08 | Jenson | hi Wethrin |
| 21:13.47 | zachary | Blah? |
| 21:14.03 | Wethrin | blah |
| 21:14.27 | zachary | Actually Yum!(just had a glazed ham) |
| 21:14.46 | Wethrin | Mmm |
| 21:15.41 | zachary | was good. glaze = Pinot Grigio + brown sugar + honey + mustard |
| 21:16.47 | zachary | mash and corn on the side |
| 21:21.35 | Wethrin | Nice :) |
| 21:27.59 | Jenson | hiya nasrat |
| 22:02.16 | Wethrin | Bedtime |
| 22:02.18 | Wethrin | 'night all |
| 22:03.52 | Jenson | night Wethrin |
| 22:10.31 | Xiaoqi | Jenson: did u ring me? |
| 22:10.55 | Jenson | yeh |
| 22:11.00 | Jenson | #wondered what you were doing |
| 22:11.06 | Jenson | was bored, looking for ppl to chat too |
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| 22:11.40 | Jenson | hiya stephanb |
| 22:11.51 | stephanb | Jenson: hiya Jenny |
| 22:12.13 | Jenson | dont call me Jenny, its so girly lol |
| 22:13.28 | stephanb | Jenson: all right kevin |
| 22:13.37 | Jenson | heya gregj |
| 22:13.42 | gregj | hi |
| 22:13.42 | Jenson | stephanb: ty darling |
| 22:27.03 | JD | Jenson: but you are girly |
| 22:27.19 | Jenson | no im not lol |
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| 23:05.59 | Huhn | heya |
| 23:06.57 | Jenson | heya Huhn |
| 23:07.50 | Huhn | hi Jenson |
| 23:08.16 | Jenson | how are you? |
| 23:08.34 | Huhn | I'm fine, thanks, building packages for >Z%&/%(SuSE 9 :) |
| 23:08.46 | Huhn | yourself? |
| 23:09.10 | Jenson | kinda tired, playing with ebay |
| 23:09.28 | Huhn | ah, buying stuff or selling? |
| 23:09.53 | Jenson | neither right now, was buying earilier |
| 23:11.25 | Huhn | anything nice? |
| 23:12.25 | Jenson | i'll tell you when it arrives lol |
| 23:13.35 | Huhn | :) |
| 23:13.43 | Huhn | there isn't a gllug meeting in November? |
| 23:14.15 | Jenson | yeh# |
| 23:14.20 | Jenson | oh the 1st |
| 23:14.23 | Jenson | you missed it |
| 23:14.44 | Huhn | oh, right ;) |
| 23:14.52 | Huhn | nevermind |
| 23:15.10 | Jenson | you gonna be at the december one? |
| 23:18.35 | Huhn | probably not |
| 23:19.16 | Jenson | i should be, if Leeds and Wethrin dont try to scare me away before then lol |
| 23:23.14 | Huhn | hm, that package looks ok, I hope it installs |
| 23:23.49 | Huhn | mhh |
| 23:24.09 | Jenson | i find packages are a bit Window's like, but that just proves that i used Slack for too long |
| 23:24.27 | Huhn | I agree |
| 23:24.35 | Huhn | well, not for Debian packages |
| 23:24.44 | Huhn | but this is for an article in a beginner's mag |
| 23:24.51 | Huhn | it needs to be idiot proof :) |
| 23:25.07 | Jenson | heh |
| 23:25.17 | stephen | hehe |
| 23:25.30 | Jenson | well, if i can do it anyone can |
| 23:25.36 | Jenson | I'm currently using Mandrake mind you |
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| 23:29.51 | Huhn | I'm only building stuff for SuSE 8.2 and 9 |
| 23:32.17 | murble | Huhn: have you learned to love SuSE yet? |
| 23:32.34 | Huhn | murble: I never will :) |
| 23:32.42 | Huhn | but the rpm works, I'm the champ ;) |
| 23:32.50 | stephanb | murble: you mean Novell Linux ? |
| 23:32.52 | murble | rpm -bp etc? |
| 23:33.44 | murble | got freebsd/isakmpd talking to plutio with shared secrets. |
| 23:34.01 | murble | s/plutio/linux pluto/ |
