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10:55.25magpieHey all
10:55.29magpieerm
10:55.51magpieWould I be correct in presuming someone here knows a bit about linux?
10:56.09JDno
10:57.29magpiebugger
10:57.44eye69I don't answer that kind of question.
10:58.26magpiewell
10:58.47magpieeven if you don't know a bit
10:58.58magpieyou probably know more than me
10:59.54magpieany chance of a hint or two?
11:00.14eye69I haven't heard a question related to Linux yet, so no.
11:01.38magpieWell, that is surprising
11:02.00JDask away and hope that someone answers
11:02.08magpieright
11:02.12magpieok
11:02.34WethrinMornin'
11:02.44eye69Morning Wethrin
11:02.53magpieI'm compiling a kernel for a Toshiba Tecra 8000 lappy
11:02.53eye69Why the nick change, btw?
11:03.14magpieso I can enable the opl3sa2 sound card
11:03.22JensonAfternoon guys
11:03.37Wethrineye69: Because I was bored of dankolb
11:03.48eye69Wethrin: Fair 'nuff
11:04.19magpieYet I've since found out that the original kernel (mandrake 9.1)
11:04.24JensonWethrin: how was the pubmeet? and change the topic :)
11:04.34magpieactually supports it
11:05.15WethrinPubmeet was good.
11:05.24Jensonmagpie: well you can assume JD knows about linux, and question him on the science museum, he was there yesterday
11:05.24magpieSo my question: is there any point in me recompiling it, as I've been told to?
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11:05.29WethrinNo.
11:05.37WethrinThere's not much point recompiling unless you need to.
11:05.45magpieFigured so
11:06.02magpieI've tried modprobe settings for africa
11:06.06*** topic/#gllug by Wethrin -> Greater London Linux User Group - Next meeting: 27th Sep 2003 - Westminster Uni. http://www.gllug.ukfsn.org
11:06.10eye69magpie: However, if you don't have the experience for it, see it as education.
11:06.22magpieheh, it sure has been educational
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11:06.43magpieI was told to recompile because that *might* make it work
11:07.02JensonWethrin: Are you using Slack 9?
11:07.02magpiebut the logic doesn't seem to be behind it
11:07.06magpienah
11:07.06magpiemandrake
11:07.10magpie9.1
11:07.14Jensonooh mandrake
11:07.14magpiehad it for 6 days now
11:07.18Jensoni keep getting told to use it lol
11:07.31Jensonbut if i switch it'll be to Debian
11:07.47WethrinJenson: I'm using OS X
11:07.52WethrinAlthough I have Slack9 upstairs
11:08.18JensonWethrin: oh yeh, i forgot
11:08.36Jensonmagpie: you new to linux or just new to mandrake then
11:08.44magpieno, totally new to linux
11:09.05magpiepretty much determined not to go back to windows
11:09.12Jensonmagpie: welcome to a weorld of pain and rebooting into windows all the time :)
11:09.12Jensonheya new2unix
11:09.16magpieheh
11:09.19magpienope
11:09.23magpieno dual install
11:09.41magpiejust linux-by-immersion
11:09.41Jensonmagpie: bah, i had to, i have parents....you male or female BTW?
11:09.45magpiemale
11:10.00Jensonoooooh, new geek for me to jump on :)
11:11.00magpieso, I guess the next question is....
11:11.10magpieif recompiling ain't going to help
11:11.28magpiewhat's the next step?
11:11.28WethrinMandrake tends to be good at detecting hardware.
11:11.32magpieyeh
11:11.38magpiesees better than RH or knoppix
11:11.46WethrinIf it hasn't detected your sound card, you're unlikely to get it to work without a *lot* of effort
11:11.54magpiewell
11:12.01magpieI've already put in a lot of effort
11:12.05magpie<PROTECTED>
11:12.24magpiethe issue seems to be that the card isn't properly isapnp compliant
11:12.29Jensonmagpie: it took me an hour and a half of annoying these guys the first time i setup my card, but thats coz im a clueless blonde aint it Wethrin
11:12.42magpieheh
11:12.52magpie90min to get it working, or 90min to get a response?
11:13.03Jensonmagpie: 90 min to do it right lol
11:13.06magpie90min to get the damn thing working would be a bargain
11:13.39magpieanyway
11:13.47magpiethe BIOS on this lappy doesn't allow me to turn pnp off
11:14.12magpieso I set the resources, then run sndconfig
11:14.17stephenonce I stopped pissing about with modules and started compiling everything into the kernel, things got a _lot_ easier
11:14.46Wethrinmagpie: Get a different sound card?
11:15.07magpiebut the opl3sa2 options in sndconfig don't match what I can set in BIOS
11:15.15magpieI wish
11:15.19magpieit's a laptop
11:15.19new2unixWethrin: have you tried a different distro? does your sound card work under Knoppix for instance?
11:15.24JensonWethrin: any idea what i can do about this printing, apsfilter is set up fine, but all i get from anything i print in KDE is %!PS-Adobe-3.0 %%Creator: Pront plug-in V4.0.5 then the date and program
11:15.33new2unixwhoops!.
11:15.37magpieno
11:15.41new2unixthat Q was for magpie.
11:15.45Jensonnew2unix: wake up darling if you're gonna join in :)
11:15.45magpienot under knoppix or RH9
11:15.59eye69Jenson: Test print of text and images works fine?
11:16.42Jensoneye69: from apsfilter yeh....i forget how to test it in KDE.....
11:16.53Jensoni think thats what the problem is#
11:17.05eye69Jenson: Pull up a console and run 'lpr filename'
11:17.14Jensoni need to set it up in kde, but kde 3.1 is just enough different from kde 3.0 to confuse me
11:17.19eye69Jenson: That should work on normal text files and images.
11:18.55Jensonthen i need to sort the file permission errors, but seenas A4266 had those too im guessing its some kind of bug
11:19.02WethrinIt's not converting Postscript to $PRINTER_NATIVE
11:19.34Jensongrrrr
11:19.42Jensonfucking piece of shit wont print a testpage
11:19.50Jensonfuck
11:20.05eye69I prefer using CUPS. Lots easier than lpd, and mostly works fine.
11:20.24stephenheh, I lost the ability to print when I moved to slack 9.0, but tbh I don't care, cos it's _so_ expensive to print on my inkjet anyway
11:20.29Jensonit keeps trying to convert thinks to images instead of postscript, but then it says it doesnt have the right filters
11:21.01eye69Jenson: Well, then apsfilter doesn't really work, does it? :)
11:21.04Jensonstephen: true...i just dont like having to boot into win to print
11:21.11WethrinCups doesn't run its filters if I print to a remote lpd queue.
11:21.21stephenI just go into the uni, cos it's a lot cheaper
11:21.48WethrinAlthough I have a photoprinter for, err, photos.
11:22.03JensonWethrin: read, err porn :)
11:22.12WethrinRead, err, photos.
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11:23.24WethrinEh?
11:24.08Jensonlol
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11:24.29JensonDoes apsfilter and CUPS work together?
11:24.33Jensonhello Leeds darling
11:24.40Leedsmorning
11:25.52eye69Jenson: CUPS does its own filtering.
11:26.01eye69Jenson: What printer is it?
11:26.09Jensoneye69: Deskjet 930C
11:26.24eye69I'll do some checking. Brb.
11:26.43JensonCUPS doesnt offer me an external printer though
11:27.07Jenson/eork/work
11:28.01Jensoni mean i could give up and work in windoes, but the fonts have goit weird so i cant read putty properly :)
11:32.47Jensonevil book talking about pico and vi....i just dont undertsand those
11:33.32magpiehrm
11:33.51magpieis there any way of getting modules.conf to run anytime other than boot?
11:33.54Jensonmagpie: mostly no point listening tome when it comes to linux, im pretty useless
11:33.54magpielike
11:34.11magpiewell
11:34.28magpieI'm 6 days and counting, so anything's a step up
11:35.02magpielike, so I can run modules.conf commands without having to reboot every time I try a new set
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11:35.46Jensonmagpie: ive been using lunux since novemeber and im still stupid
11:35.56Jensons/linux
11:36.03Wethrinpico is easy to use
11:36.07magpiewell
11:36.14Jensonmagpie: you got a girlfriend/wife/boyfriend?
11:36.25magpieI know folks who have been using windows since 1990 and they still stupid
11:36.27JensonWethrin: you know you're cleverer than me
11:36.30magpie<PROTECTED>
11:36.36magpiegot a wife
11:36.40magpiejust about to make her dinner
11:36.44Jensondefinately ahead of me :)
11:36.54WethrinErr....pico is easy to use. If you actually *read* what it says at the bottom of the screen.
11:36.58Jensonmagpie: coming to gllug on the 27th...
11:37.09JensonWethrin: not sure ive actually used it
11:37.12magpielove to, but
11:37.14magpieI'm in Korea
11:37.21Jensonbah
11:37.31magpieso it's a bit of a trip
11:37.45Jensonmagpie: not worth that much effort
11:37.59Jensoni ahve enough trouble convincing people i know in london to go
11:38.03magpieheh
11:38.10magpiewell
11:38.24magpieI have rellies in the british isles, it' on my todo list
11:38.31WethrinThat's because people on the Gllug list tend to go.
11:38.37WethrinNot random people who don't know Linux.
11:38.47JensonWethrin: i'm talking about Alex, Tom and Costa
11:39.01WethrinTom's been a few times.
11:39.10Jensonyeh i know
11:39.33Jensonbut after the last time we were all at the pub, some of us felt unwanted by the older geekier ones of you
11:39.56WethrinThen you should join in.
11:40.26Leedsmagpie: about the modules stuff... modules.conf just lists aliases and options which are used by modprobe... so, for example, you can do "modprobe bt848 pll=1 radio=0 card=5" if those are the options in modules.conf
11:40.33JensonWethrin: well, you could try talking to me :)
11:41.13WethrinUhhuh.
11:41.37Jensonor actually letting me have a hug
11:41.42WethrinNo.
11:42.26Jensonis Heather gonna be around at gllug time?
11:42.47magpieright
11:42.50magpieok
11:42.56magpiethanks Leeds
11:43.12magpiewould there be any trouble in booting
11:43.19magpiefinding out that it don't work
11:43.28WethrinWhich Gllug? And around where?
11:43.32magpieand trying fdifferent resource settings?
11:43.59Leedsmagpie: is there anything in particular you're messing with?  any particular driver?
11:44.02magpieyeh
11:44.05JensonWethrin: next gllug and around me
11:44.19magpieyamaha opl3sa2 sound card
11:44.22WethrinHmm. If you think about it, she's in the US, and working and studying.
11:44.26magpiein a toshiba laptop
11:44.30WethrinWhat do you really think the chances of her being there are?
11:44.56Leedsmagpie: you're unlikely to find that your machine won't boot if you mess up your sound settings
11:45.00JensonWethrin: why dont you find an English girl, one you can have some fun with at least once a week
11:45.16magpietrue enough
11:45.20WethrinBecause I happen to rather like her.
11:45.20magpiebasically
11:45.35magpiethere's a ton of information about this on the www
11:45.42JensonWethrin: yeh, i happen to rather like a lot of people :)
11:45.54magpieand I've tried most of it, but it doesn't seem to run
11:46.11Jensonexcept right now, im feeling kinda drawn toward one particular person...and no it isnt you
11:46.14WethrinJenson: So?
11:46.27magpieI can get it to play cd audio and wav/au files, under some circumstances, but not mp3s
11:46.37LeedsJenson/Wethrin: please knock it off
11:47.14Leedsmagpie: that's very strange, since playing an MP3 normally means converting it to wav/au in software and just playing the result...
11:47.21JensonLeeds: sorry
11:47.57magpieright
11:48.10magpieI've checked my codecs and tried different players and all
11:48.30WethrinYou have the MP3 libraries installed?
11:48.33magpiethe thing is, it'll play au/cd/wav whenn you tell sndconfig it's a sbpro
11:48.40magpieyes I do
11:48.43magpieor
11:48.46WethrinOkay.
11:48.46magpieI believe I do
11:48.53WethrinAh.
11:48.56LeedsI don't know which model you have... but I assume you've checked out http://www.linux-on-laptops.com/toshiba.html - and which distro do you have?
11:49.01Leedsah
11:49.06magpiexmms says it's using the mpg123 codecs
11:49.10Leedsthe license silliness
11:49.13WethrinYes.
11:49.25magpieI struck the licensing thing on rh9
11:49.30magpiebut mandrake didn't mention it
11:49.55magpieand installing the mpg123 libraries didn't help any
11:50.01Leedsforget xmms for the minute
11:50.04WethrinBut you should be using oggs </debian_troll>
11:50.11magpieIt's a toshiba tecra 8000, running mandrakke 9.1, stock
11:50.16Leedsjust use mpg123 on the command-line - limit the variables
11:50.20magpieok
11:50.29magpiebut first
11:50.32Jensonoooooh oooooh, thats something i gotta fix, find the oggvorbis plugin for xmms
11:50.35LeedsI promise that http://www.geocities.com/goodjewishboy/tecra8000linux.html isn't me! :-)
11:50.46magpieIt's in no-driver mode
11:50.50magpieheh
11:50.55magpieI've seen that page
11:50.58Leedsno-driver?
11:50.58magpieand plenty like it
11:51.01magpieyeh
11:51.10magpienothing in modules.conf, mdk doesn't detect it
11:51.14magpieso
11:51.57Leedsif you can play wav files... it should just be an issue with the configuration of your MP3 software
11:52.17magpieis it worth trying mpg123 from the command line in sbpro emmulation?
11:52.29Leedsyes
11:52.32magpieok
11:52.38magpiewait a minute, let me get it set up
11:53.12Leedsactually...
11:53.34LeedsI need to go to the shops...
11:53.38Jensoni love this, he might be a 6 day linux user, but he's cleverer thzan me
11:53.42Leedsbut have you seen http://linux.toshiba-dme.co.jp/linux/eng/faq/index.htm ?
11:55.46magpieyes, I have
11:55.51magpieno dice
11:55.53magpiethough
11:56.01magpieI may not be understanding everything correctly
11:56.08magpiedid I mention 6 days?
11:56.17Jensonyeh
11:56.52Leedsmagpie: you going to be around in 30-45 minutes?
11:56.57magpiecan be
11:57.07magpieI need to go have dinner with Her Ladyship
11:57.11Leedsokay... I need to go shopping... I'll be back...
11:57.24magpiethanks Leeds, cheers :)
11:58.37magpieheh
11:58.44magpie6 days of almost non-stop RTFMing
11:58.59magpieand about 7 failed kernel compiles
11:59.01Leedsmagpie: that's where you win out over Jenson :-P
12:01.18Jensonlol
12:01.38Jensonmagpie: i dont understand the manuals :)
12:01.48magpieyeh, well, neither do I, much of the time
12:01.55Jensonare you reading your manuals in English?
12:01.57magpiebut I plod along
12:02.00magpieyes
12:02.04magpieI'm not aactually korean
12:02.07Jensondamn you're clever :)
12:02.09magpiedespite being here
12:02.09Jensonheh
12:02.12Jensonare you English?
12:02.15magpienah
12:02.18magpieNZer
12:02.24magpieKiwi, you might say
12:02.26Jensonheh, thats still cheating :)
12:04.35JensonBRB - seenas i cant manage to use streetmap or a mapbook properly, i gotta boot into Win to use Autoroute
12:04.46WethrinErm.
12:05.01WethrinHow hard is it to go to www.multimap.co.uk or streetmap.co.uk and enter a postcode?
12:10.47new2unixWethrin: hint hint. cough cough. heh
12:12.41magpie:will be back once he's rebooted
12:12.46magpiegah
12:12.48magpiebrb
12:17.43Jensoni should have guessed id lost my autoroute disc
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12:52.51magpieI'm back
12:52.53magpiesort of
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13:10.43magpieLeeds, are you here?
13:10.58magpieHi folks, btw :)
13:13.55new2unixmagpie: there's nobody about apart from me, and i'm just about to pop out
13:14.07new2unixhow did it all go?
13:14.11magpieah, ok
13:14.16magpieit went well
13:14.17new2unixcool.
13:14.28new2unixsound all working then?
13:14.30magpiempg123 from a shell plays mp3s in 8 bit
13:14.40magpienot optimum, but I'll work on it
13:15.44new2unixhave a look at man mpg123. I'm sure you can change the default or set something different using options at the commandline.
13:16.46magpiewell
13:17.04magpiething is it tries 16 bit, but says it's not supported
13:17.11magpieso defaults to 8bit
13:17.22magpiebut I think the SBPro is an 8 bit card?
13:17.41magpieand if it's using the SBpro driver, it would follow that it can only do 8bit
13:17.44Jensoncould be....i have a SBPro 16
13:17.55Jensonnot that ive ever got my SBPro to work with linux
13:18.00Jensoncoz that my other card
13:18.47magpiewell
13:18.55magpieI know the original sbpro ws 8 bit
13:19.12magpieI expect this driver is supposed to work with that old one
13:19.55new2unixmagpie: do you have: audioctl ?
13:20.26magpieerm
13:20.30magpiedunno, let me check
13:20.43new2unixmagpie: if you do then: 'audioctl -w play=44100,2,16,slinear_le' sets the frequence to 44100Hz, 2 audio channels, 16 bit, slinear_le encoding
13:20.47Jensonnew2unix: i have chocolate :)
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13:20.56Jensonhiya cozmonort
13:20.58cozmonorthi room
13:21.00new2unixJenson: lucky you. hah
13:21.02cozmonorthi Jenson
13:21.20cozmonorthi new2unix, whys Jenson lucky ?
13:21.23magpielooks like I'll ave to install it
13:21.42Jensonwb Leeds
13:21.44magpieyay!
13:21.50Jensoncozmonort: coz i have choclate
13:21.52cozmonorthi Leeds :)
13:21.58cozmonortahh..
13:22.03new2unixmagpie: 'audioctl encodings' displays the list of all encodings supported by the audio card you have on your system.
13:22.06Leedshey cozmonort, Jenson, magpie, all
13:22.23new2unixhi Leeds
13:22.29Jensonwhy can i not type chocolate right without retyping it anymore
13:22.50magpiehi Leeds
13:22.56magpieI got it working, you were right
13:23.00magpiethe sound, that is
13:23.04Leedsnew2unix: any idea where to get audioctl from?  could be really useful at work (don't ask)
13:23.14Leedsmagpie: oh?
13:23.34Jensoncozmonort: interesting drawing, whats it meant to be about though
13:23.35Leedssbpro, AFAIK, is stereo 8-bit
13:23.37new2unixits on my NetBSD boxes.
13:23.52Leedsah!
13:24.23cozmonortnothing purticular, just felt like drawing at the time, had the image come to my head so i drew it
13:24.41Jensoni'll show you my poem then
13:24.46cozmonortcool :)
13:24.50Jensonhttp://spydersempire.com/forum/dark/messages/114.htm
13:24.53magpiei can find it for sparc
13:24.59Jensonwell, that's the one i wrote this morning anyway
13:25.06magpiebut not for x86 - will it work anyway?
13:25.08magpieyeah
13:25.24magpiempg123 plays 8 bit stereo 48000khz from the command line
13:25.35magpieunder sbpro emulation
13:25.43Leedsmagpie: I think that could be as good as you're going to get...
13:26.03magpiemay well be
13:26.29magpieit's be nice to get a gui working
13:26.35JensonPlaying MPEG stream from I_DONT_KNOW_THE_TITLE.mp3 ...
13:26.35JensonMPEG 1.0 layer III, 128 kbit/s, 44100 Hz stereo
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13:26.42magpiethis machine used to play high volumes of mp3s
13:27.07magpieand it'll be a pain doing that in a prompt
13:27.27Jensonmagpie: which desktop environment are you intending to use anyway?
13:27.34magpieI'm in KDE
13:27.35Jensonhya cupis
13:27.43magpietried gnome, didn't do much for mwe
13:27.50Jensoni dont like gnome
13:28.05magpieKDE ain't the mmost streamlined though
13:28.14Jensoni love KDE
13:28.15magpiebut it looks pretty
13:28.19Jensonyeh exactly
13:28.31Jensonwell, if you consider my background of the reaper pretty at least
13:28.38cozmonortcool
13:29.09Jensonthat is a freaky love poem lol
13:29.11Leedsmagpie: what actually happens in xmms?
13:29.31Jensoncozmonort: i'll get you links to the other 2 that you havent seen
13:29.35cupishullo
13:29.38cozmonortok
13:29.51Leedshey cupis
13:29.58cozmonortwas saying cool to the wallpaper btw, poems cool to though;)
13:29.58magpienothing much
13:30.01Jensonfuck...now i closed the whole browser
13:30.01magpieno sound
13:30.19Jensoncozmonort: i'll find the pic for ya :)
13:30.21magpiebut it seems to work alright
13:30.24magpieother than that
13:30.28cozmonortthx
13:30.34new2unixLeeds: is audioctl an original sparc aplication? google throws up sparc all over the place.
13:30.37cozmonortJenson: thx
13:30.38cupishiya Leeds
13:30.46magpievisualisations work
13:30.52Leedsnew2unix: dunno... hang on
13:31.15magpiehold on
13:31.20Leedsit's not on my Sol8 box at home...
13:31.21magpieit would appear to be working
13:31.25magpiein xmms
13:31.45magpie!!
13:32.19Leedsgood job
13:33.08magpieweird
13:33.18magpiethat's what I say
13:33.24magpieI wonder what changed
13:34.53Jensoncozmonort: http://spydersempire.com/forum/dark/messages/59.htm and http://spydersempire.com/forum/dark/messages/60.htm
13:34.59magpieas an asidde
13:35.21magpiewould audioctl for sparc run on an x86?
13:35.34magpieI would expect not, but ...
13:35.45Leedsmagpie: nope
13:36.18cozmonortJenson: vicious, sounds like u was pissed off when u wrote that 1
13:37.01magpieright
13:37.04Jensoncozmonort: im really not sure, i just worte it
13:37.16magpieI'm gonna reboot, try to replicate this phenomenon
13:37.24cozmonortJenson: bit like me with my drawing :P
13:37.29magpiesee y'all soon :)
13:37.34Jensonseeya magpie
13:37.38Jensongrr im slow
13:37.53JensonLeeds: what important Jewish da is it on the 27th then
13:37.59Jensons/da/day
13:38.05cozmonortJenson: erm, the gif u sent me said it saved to my hardrive but didnt, do u mind resending
13:38.06LeedsNew Year
13:38.40JensonLeeds: ah, i asked stephanb...but he didnt think it was new year
13:39.01Leedstrust me... it's New YEar
13:39.02JensonLeeds: i take it the Jewish dont get drunk and be sick on everything in their new year
13:39.23Leedsit's a religious and family event
13:39.52cozmonortJenson: thx
13:40.14Jensondo you celebrate new year again at the normal time with everyone else, or do you just ignore it
13:40.30Leedsnormal time?
13:40.35Jensonyeh lol
13:40.39Jensoni couldnt think of a better word
13:40.58Leedstry Christian, pagan or civil
13:41.05cozmonortJenson: oh I've seen that one before, think Aaron has a t-shirt with that pic
13:41.17Jensonmost likely
13:41.24Jensoni intend to get a flag poster of it
13:41.36Jenson....when the council sorts out my pay....
13:41.43cozmonortyeah :(
13:41.58Jensonhow is aaron...stoned i suppose
13:42.21cozmonortdonno, havent seen him lately, might go round there next weekend sometime
13:42.33Jensonyeh good idea
13:43.53Leedsclose
13:44.24Jensoni was just wondering if you go out and get drunk when everyoner else does thats all
13:44.41JensonYou know i dont like religion, but i like you, and its up to you what you do
13:45.00Leedsyou know... not everyone goes out and gets drunk on 31st December...
13:45.07new2unixLeeds: http://home.swipnet.se/~w-10694/utilities.html  Dont know if thats the homepage or not.
13:45.08Jensonno, i dont
13:45.12Jensoni sleep
13:45.14cozmonortJenson: y dont u like religion ?
13:45.29Jensoncozmonort: lets not go there alright
13:45.35cozmonortk
13:46.08new2unixLeeds: it is the homepage. :)
13:46.44cozmonortbrb
13:46.50Leedsnew2unix: yes, but the Solaris and Linux audio APIs are very different... so it's going to be Solaris only
13:46.59Jensoncozmonort: its nearly christmas though, and i love christmas decorations
13:47.37JensonLeeds: what do your family do at Christmas...i forget if the Jews do Christmas
13:47.38new2unixi guess thats why only gentoo and debian Sparc have it at the mo.
13:48.27LeedsJenson: nothing... go on holiday... I am normally at Limmud, a large Jewish study/arts/anything event
13:48.49new2unixLeeds: I wonder how hard it'll be to port it to linux. I'm no developer/programmer so i wouldnt know where to begin but...
13:48.52Leedsstrangely enough, we don't celebrate the birth of Jesus, no
13:49.12cozmonortback
13:49.14Leedsnew2unix: it would be almost a complete rewrite, I think, but not too hard
13:49.20Jensonwb cozmonort
13:49.31cozmonortJenson: yeah Christmas is nice
13:49.39cozmonortthx
13:49.58JensonLeeds: i just havent studyid Judaism since i was about 13, and ive forgotten it
13:50.25Leedswell try to use just a touch of common sense then
13:50.37JensonLeeds: yeh thats why i ask :)
13:51.13cozmonortJenson: sounds like school was pretty interesting 4 u :P
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13:51.59Jensoncozmonort: it was, espicially during my stronger communist leanings...hence the anti religousness...well some of it
13:52.01Leedswb maggie
13:52.10Jensonwb magpie
13:52.11magpieHi all
13:52.23magpiewell
13:52.27cozmonorthi magpie
13:52.55LeedsJenson: I think that's one of the most insightful things you've said for ages
13:53.08JensonLeeds: thank you darling :)
13:53.13magpieHeheh
13:53.56magpieI've managed to almost replicate it using a different driver - ad1848
13:54.40cozmonortbye
13:55.09magpieworks in mpg123 but not thus far in xmms
13:55.26magpieI think it started workign in xmms when I switched it down to 8bit
13:56.26magpiewith this ad1848 driver, mpg123 doesn't report that it's playing at 8bit, but still sounds pretty wretched
13:56.30Leedsthat would make sense
13:56.31Leedsum
13:58.38Leedssnot everywhere... sneezing fit
13:59.07magpiebless you
13:59.18magpieI take it your heatwave has ended then ?
13:59.41Leedshttp://www.canonical.org/~kragen/tecra8k.html
13:59.42Leedslong gone
14:00.02LeedsI've had a cold the last week or so
14:01.39magpiethat's no fun
14:01.42magpieI'm in korea
14:01.53magpielast week it was 30+ every day and 25 at night
14:02.04magpiethis week has been cool, but not yet cold
14:02.16magpiebut it ain't far off
14:02.43Leedsah, but...
14:02.49Leedsdo you have aircon?
14:02.52magpieI'll try those modules.conf settings and see if it produces the same errors in my var/log/messages
14:02.53magpienope
14:03.07magpiebut I live in a big concrete apartment block
14:03.13magpiewhich helps keep us alive
14:03.31Leedshmm...
14:03.57magpiemind you
14:04.02magpiepeople here are used to heat
14:04.14magpieunlike northern europe...
14:06.13Leedsright
14:09.08magpieok, brb
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14:19.44magpieright
14:19.48magpiewell
14:20.12magpienone of these modules.conf settings seem to work until I run a modprobe line
14:20.46magpielike modprobe opl3sa2 snd_port 0x370 snd_sb_port 0x220 snd_wss_port 0x530 snd_midi_port 0x330 snd_fm_port 0x388 snd_irq 5 snd_dma1 0 snd_dma2 1 snd_control_port 0x538
14:21.54magpiebut still
14:22.06magpienothing in xmms, only mpg123 from the prompt
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14:33.49cozmonorthi again
14:34.09Jensongrrrrrrr, i have to reboot, i cant rread putty properly at all now
14:34.24cozmonortok
14:39.00Jensongrrr
14:39.07JensonWTF has happened to this
14:39.19cozmonortdonno, have u rebooted yet ?
14:39.24Jensonim sure ajusting putty sessions shouldnt have fucked this up
14:39.26Jensonyeh
14:39.32Jensonim in Konsole
14:39.42cozmonortok
14:39.53Jensongrrrrr bloody hell
14:40.29Jensonnevermind, i'll sort it later
14:40.41cozmonortok
14:41.09cozmonorthehe
14:41.15cozmonort*heh
14:53.08Jensonyay its reloaded it properly
14:55.56JensonWethrin: do you have a copy of my CV?
15:01.22cozmonortlol
15:01.51cozmonortim listening to my Sneaker Pimps album feeling morbid and biting things
15:02.05Jensonheh
15:02.17JensonI'm listening to Westlife - Miss You Nights
15:02.35cozmonortdont know if ive heard it
15:03.31Jensonwell...you know how to use winmx :)
15:03.42cozmonortwho was u speaking to on the phone ?
15:03.55Jensonmy granny
15:03.55Jensonshe phoned
15:04.07cozmonortcool
15:04.17Jensonthen i told her the answers to the computer competition in the paper, coz she got stuck
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15:04.34cozmonorthehe
15:04.35Jensonso now thats me and her and Alex that have enetered
15:05.05cozmonortgoodluck :)
15:05.42Jenson:)
15:05.58cozmonorti got to bed at 5:00 am and woke up at 10:00
15:06.15Jensonlol
15:06.17cozmonortfeel tired but dont want to sleep
15:06.24Jensoni got to bed at 11:30 and woke up at 10
15:06.41cozmonortsounds healthier
15:06.55Jensonheh
15:06.56Jensonyeh
15:07.09Jensonexcept dreaming about people dying whilst other people filmed it lol
15:07.17cozmonorthehe
15:07.47Jensonit was weird
15:07.54cozmonorti had a dream my dad was still alive once and we went on a killing spree running people over when i was about 14
15:08.03Jensonlovely
15:08.25cozmonortthink thats one of the weirdest once ive had
15:08.32cozmonort*ones
15:10.42cozmonorti hate been alone :(
15:12.09Jensonlisten to love songs then
15:13.09cozmonortarg no way that makes me loved up and ive got no one to feel loved up about without screwing up my head
15:14.04cozmonortlove songs are for people that dating and stuff :)
15:14.26Jensonlol nor have i
15:14.30Jensonbut im doinmg it anyway
15:14.48Jensoni know a song you'd like
15:14.49cozmonortyeah but u have potential boyfriends
15:14.52Jensonhave you got WinMX
15:15.02cozmonorti prefer jmesh
15:15.10Jensonoh well whatever
15:15.25Jensongo search for Greenwheel - Breathe
15:16.06Jensonor Superbone - Gone although i know the Superbone one is on mp3.com
15:16.13Jensonor i'll upload it to the sevrer for you
15:16.37cozmonortcool
15:16.42Jensonthats a point, there is a song on the sever already you might like, that i got from gubbs, want me to dcc it
15:16.48Jensongrrr s/server
15:17.12cozmonorterm ok
15:18.44cozmonorti'll let that download away then :)
15:19.02Jensonyeh and get those songs
15:19.14Jensonthey are more kinda love/splitting up songs than love songs
15:20.09cozmonorti like Puddle Of Mudd - She Hates me for that kinda reason
15:20.15Jensongrrr, im sure i sould hate this song really
15:20.19Jensonooooh i love that song
15:20.23cozmonortwhat song ?
15:20.31JensonEnrique Iglesias - Hero
15:20.46cozmonortits strangely catchie
15:21.15Jensondo you want me to upload either of those songs for you, or can you get them on filesharing?
15:21.45cozmonortive got the greenwheel one
15:21.57cozmonorthaving trouble getting superbone
15:22.03Jensonyeh thought you might
15:22.06Jensonwant me to upload it
15:22.10cozmonortk
15:22.41Jensontats not even the Superbone song i wanted you to get, although that is another good Superbone song
15:22.48Jensoni meant Superbone - Going Down
15:23.43cozmonortk
15:23.54Jensonnot that i expect you to find that either
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15:24.14cozmonortheh
15:24.20Jensonwb Magpie
15:24.25Magpiehi guys
15:24.33MagpieLeeds, you here?
15:24.40MagpieI got this sucka licked
15:24.57Jensonnot sure he's here Magpie
15:25.01Magpieif you'll pardon mixed oral metaphor
15:25.05Magpieah well
15:25.06JensonCan i help/listen
15:25.22Magpieturns out I have 2 versions of xmms on my system:
15:25.26MagpieXmms
15:25.29Magpieand XMMS
15:25.34Jensonweird
15:25.36MagpieXmms is silent
15:25.41Jensoni think XMMS is the proper one
15:25.41MagpieXMMS works fine
15:25.55Magpiestill
15:26.01Magpiekaboodle and noatun don't work
15:26.10Jensonbah
15:26.13Jensonmine do
15:26.14Magpieand the built in sounds form things like gaim don't play
15:26.18Magpiebut I don't car
15:26.21Magpiee
15:26.27MagpieI turn them off anyhow :)
15:26.33Jensoni think i know what you might need to install
15:26.37Jensonif i can remember what its called
15:26.45Jensonas Leeds helped me with all my soound too
15:27.19Magpienow all I need to do is write a script to do the modprobe at boot time
15:27.40Jensoncant you just add the module, to whater its called
15:27.49Jensonim bloody useless arent i
15:27.54Magpieheh
15:28.06MagpieI have google, I'll sort it out one way or another
15:28.11Magpiebut now
15:28.15Jensonyeh i can help you
15:28.22Jensoni just forget whings
15:28.25Jensons/things
15:28.42MagpieI'm going to bed - I have to get up in 5 hours
15:29.00Jensonwhat time is it?
15:29.09Magpie0029
15:29.13Jenson:)
15:29.29Jensonoh well, when i remember what im trying to tell you i will help you if you havent fixed it
15:29.32Jensongoodnight then
15:29.47Magpiegive my sincerest thanks to Leeds - and I'll drop by again
15:29.51Magpiecheers
15:29.52Magpienight :)
15:30.53cozmonortive now searched for superbone using jmesh and winmx. nothing
15:31.12Jensongrr
15:31.15Jensoni will upload it then
15:31.48cozmonortok then thx
15:33.07Jensonthat'll probably take a while, but5 its better this way, coz once its on the server you can pick up on a better connection
15:33.24Jensonell its saying about 20mins, that isnt bad
15:34.30cozmonortcool, just listening to Bjork now
15:34.53cozmonortoh drum & bass good good :)
15:34.54Jensonnot sure if i like that
15:35.28Jensonbut it was on the server so i thjoght you could have it
15:36.06cozmonorti love drum & base i've got my radio set to a drum & base station in the mornings and i was listening to a drum & base pirate staion last night making shout outs by txt
15:36.54cozmonorterm it cut out half way through :(
15:37.53cozmonortdoesnt matter im in a good mood now anyway, gonna search for more d&b
15:40.58Jensonim gonna goeed the horse, back in a min#
15:41.22cozmonortk cya in min
15:49.48Jensonim not convinced my rabbit is very well either
15:49.58Jensonhave to get my mother to look when she gets in
15:50.14cozmonorterg, y dont u go get them checked out at a vet ?
15:50.20cozmonortoh ok
15:50.35Jensonyeh, well if he needs a vet he'll go
15:50.45cozmonortcheck this song out (good drum & base)
15:51.02Jensonbut mother fed him yseterday, and didnt say anything was wrong, so i assume he was fine yesterday coz my mother knows what she's doing
15:51.12cozmonorthmm
15:51.31cozmonortmy pet bird died on thursday
15:51.45cozmonortbut the die the same day they get sick
15:52.17Jensonrabbits often do too
15:52.36cozmonortarg, hope its ok
15:52.56Jensonthe best one is our horse, when she gets stomach ache, she lays there quietly, until you look at her, then she groans and sighs and all that
15:53.14Jensonyeh i think he's alright, he just doesnt seem to be eati
15:53.21Jensons/eating
15:53.32cozmonortk
15:53.34cozmonortbrb - phone
15:54.00Jensonk
16:00.38cozmonortthat was my mum calling from margate
16:05.20Jensonhows she?
16:05.27Jensoni wandewred off to wash up
16:06.34cozmonortshes ok, going to be coming down on Wednesday to deal with some paper work then going back there, i think she gets home sick though
16:07.03Jensonhow long does she intend to be there then, and why is she actually there?
16:08.04cozmonortwell shes helping out her mate and shes getting paid for it, she is also saving up for my brothers wedding present, were going to get his kitchen redecirated
16:09.06Jensonhehehe cool, my mpuse can load random things whilst im cleaning it in the kitchen
16:09.27cozmonortmpuse ?
16:09.31Jensonwith Fairy lol
16:09.33Jensons/mouse
16:09.38cozmonortoh
16:09.50cozmonortlol
16:10.08Jensonwell it gets greasy, i thinkits coz i eat near it
16:10.50cozmonortyeah and u do have a tendency of getting ur hands sticky
16:12.04Jensonlol
16:12.07Jensonyay clean phone
16:12.18cozmonorthehe
16:12.18Jensonnow im gonna clean the non key parts of the keyboard
16:16.09Jensonthere
16:16.13Jensoneverything clean now
16:16.36Jensonnot sure my mother would take to me using her washing up sponge and teacloth, but nevermind
16:16.42cozmonortyey :)
16:16.47cozmonorthehe
16:17.12Jensoni oughta clean the monitor too, but that can wait
16:17.45Jensonewww its got hair wax on it
16:18.19cozmonorthow did that get there ?
16:19.55Jensoni was leaning on it
16:19.57Jensonthe other day
16:20.13Jensonbut its clean now
16:20.19cozmonortah
16:20.28cozmonortoh cool download complete :)
16:20.42Jensonyeh, means i have to download it to my computer later
16:20.54cozmonortheh
16:20.56cozmonortok
16:21.16cozmonortim going to try gathering some people together to go to this rave
16:21.30Jensonmy mobile is dirty too, but im not putting water anywhere near that
16:21.31Jensonrave?
16:21.32Jensonwhere
16:22.22cozmonortRaindance 18 October 10pm - 7am Weston Street London SE1
16:23.32cozmonortthere going to be playing Old School, Happy Hardcore, Jungle and Drum & Base
16:24.56cozmonorti can scan the flyer and Email to u if u want
16:26.09Jensonnah dont worry about it
16:26.20cozmonortok
16:28.23cozmonortcool song btw
16:28.56Jenson:) i know
16:28.59cozmonortsounds like a piss head btw
16:29.05Jensonlol
16:29.18Jensonanway i gotta go
16:29.21Jensonparents are home
16:29.21JensonBBL
16:29.34cozmonortok cya later, i might be cooking though
16:29.44Jensonwell, its nearly night anyway so i'll definaelty be back lol
16:29.45Jensonyeh ok
16:29.46Jensonseeya
17:15.07Leedswell...
17:15.11LeedsI think the PIF is done
17:41.54JDpif?
17:42.14Leedspresenter id form
17:49.36Leedsfollowed by one or more sifs
17:49.41Leedsbtw... hi
18:15.51JDhi
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18:35.48Leedshmm...
18:36.00Leedsjust got a piece of spam with "tarragon" as the from address...
18:38.24stephanbhi Leeds
18:39.24Leedsevening
18:40.13stephanbwhat is happening on sat 27th ?
18:40.29LeedsRosh Hashanah
18:41.15cupis12:45 - 13:45 Lene Jenson - Red Hat Certification
18:41.21cupis14:45 - 15:45 Formi - FreeBSD
18:41.33cupis16:45 - 17:00 Raffle and closing announcements
18:41.56Leedsstephanb: which one were you referring to?
18:42.57stephanbLeeds: the jewish new year (jenson told me you couldn't come at the next meeting)
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18:50.51Jensonstephanb: heya darling, yeh me and Leeds already talked about Judaism
18:51.52stephanbJenson: hi there
18:52.49stephanbbe back in a moment, dinner is ready !
18:52.54Jensonstephanb: are you going to the redhar cert talk at gllug?
18:53.01Jensons/redhat
18:58.02Jensongrrrr ive scared everyone awat again
19:12.51stephanbJenson: yes, i want to listen to that, just because 2 years ago i was considering doing it
19:13.18Jensonyeh, good, i can sit with you then
19:13.26Jensonoh and costa, coz he goes where i go
19:41.45Jensongrrr, there are 2 ppl i wanna talk to and they arent here
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19:48.28Jensonhello Tarragon
19:48.50TarragonEvening
19:48.55cozmonorthi room
19:49.02cozmonorthi Tarragon
19:49.02Jensongrrr, must not eat my phone aerial
19:49.07Jensonhello cozmonort darling
19:49.09cozmonorthi Jenson
19:49.18cozmonortu alright babe :)
19:49.22Jensonyeh
19:49.24Jensonbounce lol
19:49.27Jensonim hyper
19:49.28cozmonortlol
19:49.36Jensonim screaming love songs at the monitor
19:49.42Jensonis that normal when you're single
19:49.42cozmonorthehe
19:50.07cozmonorti burst out in song at work sometimes if that counts
19:50.07TarragonNo.
19:50.23Jensoncozmonort: can i get drunk and fall asleep on your bed on friday :)
19:50.28JensonTarragon: bah
19:50.45cozmonortyeah sure, if u want i'll sleep in the livingroom
19:50.55Jensonif im drunk i wont care :P
19:51.16cozmonorthehe
19:51.47Jensonoh, and i gotta try to pull a cute chick that night :)
19:52.06cozmonortsame here :P
19:53.22cozmonortwe can help spot people checking us out, this should be fun
19:55.34Jensonheh
19:55.40cozmonortheh ?
19:55.59Jensonive still gotta convince Mr Alex (the man formerly known as Mr Trousersnake) to come out and play
19:57.04cozmonortwhats wrong with him anyway, y doesnt he wanna come out ??
19:57.12highburyhmmm. slighlty more detail than we want here
19:57.25Jensonheh
19:57.32Jensonhighbury: im not sure how he got that name
19:57.34Jensoni forget
19:57.38Jensoni started it
19:57.53JensonWhere is Mr Pashley, he's meant to be talking to me tonight
19:57.55stephanbhighbury: good point, conversation kinda drifitng off topic
19:58.05cozmonortthat doesnt suprise me (u started it)
19:58.15Jensonstephanb: shall we tell them that you called me Queen Of Bubblewrap then
19:58.25cozmonorthehe
19:58.41TarragonJenson: What do you mean "g/f"?
19:58.49JensonTarragon: girlfriend
19:59.35Tarragonhits floor
19:59.42Jensoncozmonort: we dont have a nickbame for you yet
19:59.46cozmonortnope
19:59.57Jensoni have a feeling Dan was bad boy
20:00.02Jensonand zimm was Mr zimm
20:00.17JensonTarragon: whats wrong darling ?
20:00.31cozmonortZimm isnt that the dude from Magic Roundabout?
20:00.39stephanbJenson: the official abbreviation if "gf"
20:00.43cozmonortoh sorry thats Zabidy
20:00.44Jensoncozmonort: nah thats zebadee
20:01.01Jensonzimm was invented by squrl
20:01.06stephanbJenson: g/f is the gravity constant "g" divided by the force "f"
20:01.17Jensonyeh i named mt guinea pig after nmy ex's fiance
20:01.24TarragonJenson: We don't allow anyone like that in the villages up here. Marry your cousin fine, the rest could turn beer sour
20:01.31Jensonand the other one after my exs rat lol
20:01.40JensonTarragon: Local place for local people
20:02.13TarragonThe exact village - Hadfield where it is filmed
20:03.36stephanbTarragon: league of the gentlemen ?
20:06.49Jensonstephanb: lol maybe i should have called the zimm and Wethrin
20:06.52Jensons/them
20:07.20Tarragonstephanb: Yes. My brother still lives in the village
20:07.42Jensonwhy am i so bouncy and happy, who did this to me
20:08.10cozmonorty cant u be bouncy and happy for the sake of it, i am
20:08.18stephanba. god
20:08.23stephanbb. energy
20:08.27stephanbc. hormones
20:08.48cozmonortstephanb, the man of great wisdom :P
20:08.55cozmonortoh u forgot
20:08.57cozmonortd. music
20:09.19stephanbor so he pretends
20:11.16Jensonstephanb: i think you and cozmonort know what my hormones are like, you saw me yesterday
20:11.45cozmonortyeah, but i think we were all guilty of some bad behaviour yesterday
20:11.49cozmonort:P
20:12.10Jensonhehehe, yesterday i was out to pull baby
20:12.30cozmonorthehe
20:12.53cozmonortflirting is a great confidence booster :)
20:13.03Jensonmmm i know
20:13.19Jensoni spent pretty much 12 hours pof the day flirting either on the phone or in person
20:13.51cozmonorti can believe that, im constantly flirting at work
20:14.08cozmonortand i try getyting looks while going home :P
20:14.10Jensonheh
20:14.34Jensonlike the time i went out dressed up as Britney, man did my boy/f love that
20:14.49Jensonnot sure my mate liked what we did with her choclate sporead and her aofa though
20:14.55cozmonorti havent done that one yet :P
20:14.59Jensonnot that it was anything very bad
20:15.33Jensonwhy are the 2 ppl who promised me they'd be here tongiht not here
20:16.16cozmonortwhos that ?
20:16.16JensonXiaoqi and JD
20:16.16cozmonortoh, JD was here earlier
20:16.34cozmonorthe spoke to leeds
20:16.45cozmonortleft pc on, so it shows up
20:16.57Jensonyeh i have 24/7 screen
20:17.00cupisJenson: JD has been idle for nearly an hour.
20:17.28Jensoncupis: yeh and isnt answering his phone
20:18.39TarragonNo he is about. Last typed 7 minutes ago on admin channel
20:19.41Jensonyeh, avoiding me then
20:20.29Jensoncozmonort: well i found out nikki is at chris's thats why she isnt here
20:21.17cozmonortfair enough, who's Chris ?
20:21.25Jensoncozmonort: one of her mates from uni
20:21.33Jensonsingle IIRC
20:21.43cozmonortcool
20:21.45Jensonhe is zero_the_hero
20:21.57cozmonortoh ok recognize now
20:22.50cozmonorti cant wait till i go raving :)
20:22.58Jensongrrr weird feeling, i feel kinda unhyper and depressed but still hyper
20:23.14cozmonortthat ones a real bitch
20:23.20Jensonyepperz
20:23.38cozmonortmakes u feel like ur been stretched both ways
20:24.14Jensonnow i have to find some suitable music
20:24.39JensonEvanescence
20:24.52cozmonortyeah !!
20:25.35Jensoni cant be bothered though
20:25.43Jensonn/m...do that in the morning
20:25.46cozmonortive been listening to that for about a month now, so ive gone to trance drum & base and old school tonight
20:25.52cozmonortheh
20:29.11cozmonorti love this flyer it says "Over 18's, NO DRESS CODE, OVER 18'S ONLY! (IF YOU LOOK YOUNG I.D. WILL BE REQUESTED!). NO ILLEGAL SUBSTANCES. STRINGENT SEARCHES OPON ENTRY. NOISY HAPPY PEOPLE ONLY! BRING YOUR WHISTLES & HORNS!"
20:29.26Jensonlol
20:31.20cozmonortthe stringent searches weren't that bad when i went though because i was able to smuggle stuff in my trainers
20:31.32Jensonheh
20:31.42cozmonortwas lots of fun
20:32.01cozmonort(the party not the smugling)
20:32.24Jensonlol
20:33.24cozmonortoh yeah good track
20:33.47cozmonortjust played to remind self which one that was
20:33.58JensonNNL
20:34.00Jensonerm
20:34.01JensonBBL
20:34.04cozmonortok
20:34.08cozmonortcya later
20:34.12eye69Immortal - Beyond the north waves
20:34.15eye69That's a nice tune :)
20:34.58cozmonortcool
20:35.02cozmonortnever heard it
20:37.01cozmonortthink im going to try dloading it to make own mind up
20:37.15eye69I'm currently uploading to the server
20:37.40cozmonortcool
20:37.56cozmonortim listening to D-Devils
20:38.58cozmonortbrb
20:40.32cozmonortback
20:43.47eye69cozmonort: upcore.net/mp3
20:44.34cozmonortcheers
20:46.37cozmonortso what sort of music u into
20:46.40cozmonort?
20:47.30eye69Metal. Black/death.
20:49.18eye69Depends on the mood. As long as it's not pop...
20:49.25eye69I can't stand mainstream..
20:49.49cozmonortunderstandable
20:50.37TarragonPhilistines! Aqua is the one true music
20:51.06cozmonortyey for Aqua barbie girl and all !!
20:51.18cupisTarragon: seriously...
20:51.34cozmonortyey beer :D
20:51.41eye69cozmonort: Heard In Flames?
20:51.51cupisTarragon: this Aqua thing of yours. I'm sure someone in Harley Street can help you with that. :)
20:52.27TarragonHa HA. One day you will see or rather hear the light.
20:52.31cozmonorteye69: if i get a beer coz of it it must be good
20:54.31cozmonorteye69: track ive got of ur server reminds me of cradle of filth's stuff
20:56.00cozmonortbbl - going to go get "real" beer
21:02.48new2unixeye69: are you using IPv6?
21:06.18eye69new2unix: Yep
21:06.30new2unixeye69: on linux?
21:06.31eye69Should be fairly obvious from my host. :)
21:06.42eye69On Linux, OpenBSD and XP.
21:09.56new2unixeye69: yeah. thats where i noticed it. :)  i guess its running smoothly and youre pleased?
21:10.13eye69Yep, works fine. No apparent problems.
21:11.26eye69Brb, reconnect to get the proper host.
21:13.11*** join/#gllug eye69 (magnus@3ffe:200:170:200:0:0:0:1)
21:18.21eye69Bloody weird.
21:20.16*** join/#gllug eye69 (magnus@ipv6.upcore.net)
21:20.23stephanbok everybody, i'm off. time for bed
21:21.24eye69Ahhh, now. Calkins seems to have DNS problems.
21:22.00*** part/#gllug stephanb (~frog@dsl-80-46-198-43.access.uk.tiscali.com)
21:22.09cozmonorthi again
21:22.18cozmonortgot beer :)
21:22.36cozmonorttwans ?
21:23.11Jensonlol
21:23.12Jensonyawns
21:23.17cozmonortahh
21:23.43new2unixeye69: where would you suggest i look for info on IPv6?
21:24.14new2unixany preferable sources?
21:24.35eye69What OS?
21:24.47new2unixNetBSD
21:25.04new2unixand probably Win2k and Debian
21:25.37cozmonortgoodnight ppl im going bed
21:25.49Jensonnight cozmonort
21:26.05cozmonortnight Jenson
22:01.58gregjre
22:02.57gregjanyone alive
22:03.00Leedsno
22:03.16gregjok, sorry
22:03.17gregj:D
22:06.41Leedsstill working
22:10.16gregjyep
22:10.24gregj24h/7
22:12.42LeedsI meant I was still working
22:15.01WethrinBlah
22:17.14JD?
22:18.19LeedsSimpsons - the one where they send "averagnaught" Homer Simpson into space to try to boost TV ratings of rocket/shuttle launches...  not entirely good taste, nowadays, maybe...
22:19.00Leedsconsidering Sky permanently removed a line about being chased by the paparazzi (sp?) a few years ago...
22:19.03Leedsnight new2unix
22:19.13eye69Leeds: You've tivo'd it?
22:19.21Wethrinnn new
22:19.24Leedseye69: which one?
22:19.31eye69Simpsons?
22:19.39Leedseye69: which one?
22:19.49eye69Home in Space
22:19.50eye69r
22:20.00Leedsyes, it recorded it today (I think)
22:20.45Leedsand now they're trying re-entry with damage... "may not make it back"...
22:21.18eye69Yeah, saw it today. That's why I asked.
22:21.36Leedsah, right
22:22.47LeedsI don't watch all that much 'live' TV nowadays...
22:23.43Leedsthe TiVo seems to be in a film4 mood recently
22:28.36gregjhehe
22:53.47*** join/#gllug Xiaoqi (~nikki@195.137.107.7)
22:54.47eye69That must be fun.
22:55.23Leedssome bastard modded me Redundant on slashdot!  my masculinity is threatened!
22:55.39eye69Haha
22:55.43eye69What thread?
22:56.17LeedsMaddog
22:57.17Leedshttp://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=77573&cid=6895672
22:57.37WethrinA redundant Leeds?
22:58.24eye69Leeds: I don't think your comment was redundant.
22:58.49Leedsneither do I... unless it was modded by someone else on my table in Edinburgh who therefore knows what happened :-)
22:59.13Leedssurfing penguins! :-)
23:03.52*** join/#gllug Xiaoqi (~nikki@195.137.107.7) [NETSPLIT VICTIM]
23:03.52*** join/#gllug murble (~murble@213.152.57.250) [NETSPLIT VICTIM]
23:05.34eye69Leeds: You just got an immature reply to your comment
23:06.09Leedsyes indeed
23:14.52LeedsAnd I've now been modded up :-)
23:15.14Wethrinhttp://www.thinkgeek.com/gadgets/lights/5a9f/ - I want :)
23:16.45Leedsnot a bad idea... pity their shipping is so much and the gits at Customs will charge you on the way in
23:16.52WethrinYeah.
23:20.02WethrinGet a friendly American to order one, and send it over.
23:20.38Leedsor better, possibly...
23:20.52Leedsfind a friendly Brit who's going over there, and get them to bring one back
23:21.07WethrinThat too.
23:21.24WethrinI do hope to be going there over New Year.
23:21.29Leedsgiven that 3 of my team are off to the valley in a week or two... :-)
23:21.33WethrinOoooh.
23:21.43LeedsI should bloody be going :-(
23:21.44Leedsah well
23:21.53WethrinAny chance of ordering a Thinkgeek thing through you/them?
23:22.25eye69http://www.thinkgeek.com/books/nonfiction/5d46/
23:22.25Leedsum, well, maybe...
23:22.59Leedseye69: http://www.amazon.co.uk/exec/obidos/ASIN/188641176X/qid%3D/026-2952040-2074012
23:23.16Leedsibot change 18.99 usd to gbp
23:23.34Wethrinibot change 40 usd to gbp
23:23.36Leedshell of a lot cheaper to buy it locally...
23:23.44eye69Leeds: Stupid in any case
23:23.51WethrinHm. £25 for the light
23:24.12Leedseye69: well, there is that
23:25.56WethrinHow long are your party going to the valley for?
23:26.26eye69http://www.thinkgeek.com/clearance/5a3c/
23:28.27eye69~change 280 usd to gbp
23:28.47eye69~change 176 gbp to sek
23:29.07Wethrin~change 280 usd to sek
23:29.08Leedsa week-ish
23:29.19Leedssek?
23:29.25WethrinSwedish Krona.
23:29.34Leedsyes, I know... but why?
23:29.57eye69Because I'm from Sweden, and was interested.
23:30.17Leedsah... was wondering why Wethrin was asking for values in SEK :-)
23:30.33WethrinJust to see :)
23:31.15eye6901:30:21 < slave2> 280 USD (US Dollar) makes 2,298.94 SEK (Swedish Krona) at the rate of 8.2105 SEK/USD
23:32.22eye69Hmmm. That bot grabs it from uk.finance.yahoo.com
23:32.39WethrinLeeds: Would there be any chance of somehow getting the Forever Flashlight from any of your team when they go to the US?
23:33.55LeedsWethrin: possibly
23:36.57Leedspartly depends on how much of a hurry you're in
23:37.43WethrinNot too much, really.
23:37.55WethrinWould rather save on delivery/customs costs.
23:39.07WethrinBut I ought to go sleep now.
23:39.08Wethrin'night all
23:43.24Leedswe can talk about it
23:43.25Leedsg'night
23:53.20gregjnight
23:55.16Leedsyou're going to bed?

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