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06:14.58new2unixmoin all
06:25.36zacharymoin new2unix highbury
07:09.15JDhi all
07:18.22highburymorning
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07:48.59Leedswell... I've just ordered a new ADSL ISP...
07:52.36cupwho?
07:53.01Leedsbulldog
07:54.43Leedsdata-only type service, static IP, 256kbit up, 512kbit down during the day, 2mbit down off-peak, for 31.70 a month
07:55.39cupis 512kbit down standard?
07:56.32Leedsyes
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10:07.00Xiaoqimorning all
10:09.09nasratmoin Xiaoqi
10:15.25JDhi all
10:17.33nasrathey JD
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10:49.12JDdoes anyone have a windows update capable machine lying around?
10:50.08nasratJD: no sorry
10:51.07nasrathave you considered SUS server?
10:52.12JDI can't find any new updates on there despite the fact I know there are patches required for these machines
10:52.53nasrathmm odd
10:53.09nasratdo you have activex enabled :)
10:53.16JDyep
11:02.16Leedsx86: little-endian or big-endian?
11:02.37nasratLE
11:02.55Leedsthanks... you'd think I'd know that :-)
11:25.07avanthave you got pir9 version?
11:25.31Leedsavant: what?
11:26.31avantfor the windowsupdate stuff
11:26.47avantit won't let you update if you have pir9
11:26.53avantjust get the RPC patch
11:27.07Leedswhat's pir9?
11:27.48Leedsah
11:27.53Leedswell, whatever :-)
11:35.18JDstrangely some of us buy software
11:35.33Leedssome of us rarely do... because we rarely need to
11:36.33Leedsand a very significant amount of the software I buy ends up being used for work anyway...
11:36.57JDsome of us sell it to customers
11:37.33Leedsthat too
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11:39.10zacharyafternoon
11:40.21Leedshello
11:41.16JDwhat fuckwits made xml comments non nestable
11:41.46LeedsAl Goew
11:41.48LeedsGore
11:44.12zacharyLeeds: Just because he invented the internet. Doesn't conclude that he has anything to do with xml.
11:44.28Leedsdidn't you hear?  He invented XML too...
11:44.53Leedsand Unix... and HTTP... and WIMP... and so on...
11:45.13zacharyAnd I guess he had something to do with TCPA as well?
11:45.29Leedsoh yeah
11:46.55nasratJD: probably the sgml people
11:47.01zacharyJust got back from a chili cook-off fund raiser. Consider me armed and dangerous.
11:48.37Leedscool
11:48.52JDor not
11:48.55JDas the case may be
11:49.27Leedsindeed
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13:03.12JDLeeds: what is the logic behind your username
13:03.15JDI get the rc bit
13:03.25Leedscompany ID number
13:03.30JDah
13:03.47JDnot entirely easy to remember is it
13:03.51LeedsI'm not a free man, etc.
13:04.06Leedsit sticks in the mind after a while :-)
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13:18.34resuDaedwhat tools are good for monitoring cpu/ram/disk/net perfomance problems?
13:19.32nasratresuDaed: sysstat is v. good
13:20.02nasratit's linux versions of stuff like sar
13:20.12Jenson|AwayresuDaed: do you know if zimm is coming down this weekend?
13:20.26Leedstop
13:20.34Leedsiostat or whatever it's called
13:20.36resuDaedJenson|Away : no idea, I hadn't heard anything
13:20.49Leedsthere we go - it's vmstat on Linux
13:21.15Jenson|AwayresuDaed: well i aint spoken to him since tuesday, and he wasnt sure but thought it would be this weekend or next
13:21.18Jenson|Awayoh well
13:21.19Jenson|Awayseeya later guys
13:21.40resuDaedlaters Jenson|Away
13:22.25nasratLeeds: sysstat provides iostat, etc.  
13:22.46nasrat*/10 * * * * root /usr/lib/sa/sa1 1 1
13:22.51nasrat53 23 * * * root /usr/lib/sa/sa2 -A
13:23.36Leedsah
13:24.31nasratno virtual adrian though :)
13:25.39resuDaedthanks, shall delve deep into docs
13:25.45Leeds???
13:26.37resuDaedone more quickie, any good proggies for monitoring network perfomance?
13:26.47nasratLeeds: Adrian Cockroft (IIRC), written a book on performance tuning solaris.  There is a package that monitory output and tunes
13:27.10nasratresuDaed: mrtg/cricket anything snmp driven really
13:27.18Leedsah
13:27.24LeedsresuDaed: ntop?
13:30.10gregjziau
13:30.22Leedssame to you
13:32.38gregjziau==ziaw==yawn
13:38.49Leedsburp?
13:42.02zacharybbl
13:44.40gregj:-)
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15:09.51gregjhow do you call this type of word: Pole
15:09.57gregjmade up from poland
15:10.05gregjor Brit from Britain
15:13.20Leedsdunno
15:13.45Leedstechnically, it's a Briton, by the way :-)
15:14.18gregjin polish it is:
15:14.24gregjBritain - kraj, naród
15:14.32gregjBritons - Narodowosc
15:14.59gregjnationality ? :]
15:16.06nasratdepends whether you mean a descriptive word dervied from a noun (adjective) or country specific
15:17.56gregjfirst
15:18.36nasratBritish is an adjective, Briton is a noun.  You can have a Briton
15:20.04nasratBritish describes something/someone, it's also getting close to a possesive
15:20.58nasratyou can have a flag, a British flag.  (adjective, it's describing a property of the flag)
15:22.04nasratThe Briton is a noun refering to an individual British person, but it can be abstract or specific
15:24.39nasratHowever my grammar isn't great :)
15:25.27gregjthanks :]
15:47.54Leedsso, anyone doing anything exciting this weekend? :-)
15:48.10gregjLeeds: hey, hey do the hebrew thing :]
15:48.23Leedspretty fly for a rabbi?
15:48.26gregjyep
15:48.27gregj:]
15:48.36gregjjust goes in me xmms
15:49.21gregjunfortunatelly i don't understand all lyrics :(
15:49.40LeedsI do :-)
15:49.40gregjare there any places to download/see those lyrics in written form ?
15:49.44Leedswell... almost
15:50.00gregji'll use google
15:50.09gregjibot google pretty fly for a rabbi
15:50.11gregj: bugger all, i dunno
15:50.22gregjibot search google for pretty fly for a rabbi
15:50.30gregj:>
15:53.11gregji still don't get most of it
15:55.01gregjwhat are all those pseudo-hebrew words ?
15:55.12gregjor those are just made up to sound more Jewis
15:55.13gregjh
15:55.22gregj|Veren zol fun dir a blintsa
15:55.22gregj|
15:55.23gregj?
15:55.40gregjBut most of 'em were nudniks and none of 'em would last
15:55.41gregj?
15:55.47gregjis it from, nudne - borring ?
15:56.33Leedsnudnik?
15:56.50gregjnudziarz - a man that say boring things
15:56.55Leedsmost of the 'made-up' stuff is yiddush
15:56.57Leedsyiddish
15:57.10gregjsome sound bit simmilar to  polish :]
15:57.15Leedsa nudnik is someone who will never amount to anything - a no-good-nik
15:57.34gregjnudziarz
15:57.42gregj| I tell ya, he's to dies for - he really knows his shtick
15:57.42gregj|
15:57.46gregjshtick ?
15:58.07gregjLeeds: what would you say about pirates of carabs. today ?
15:58.22Leedsnot today
15:58.29Leedswell, probably not today
15:58.33Leedsshtick is stuff
15:59.09gregjone visiion is really borring after this song :]
15:59.30Leedsheh
15:59.34gregjhehe, i got my play list:
15:59.42gregjA. myles - black velvet
15:59.48gregjcarcass - no love lost ...
16:00.05gregjal green - aint no sunshine..
16:00.06gregjnice mix
16:00.16gregji would edxpect metallica or slayer next
16:00.50gregjno, its deep purple - track 7, this speaks for its self :]
16:02.45LeedsI have the radio on (ogg streaming) - traffic news now
16:06.57gregjLeeds: i tried to find some nice movie to see yesterday
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16:07.18gregjLeeds: there is nothing that might really make me want to see it
16:10.40gregjtrack 7 - anya
17:21.32gregjis it lager or lagger ?
17:22.58Jensonheya
17:23.56gregjwhat is correct spelling for so called beer - is it lagger or lage
17:23.57gregjr
17:24.19Jensonlager
17:24.32gregjthx
17:24.35Jensonyw
17:24.38Jensonhow are you?
17:24.41gregjso so
17:24.48gregjthere are no interesting movies to see
17:24.50gregj:/
17:25.04gregjnothing to do
17:25.06gregjlazy day
17:25.27Jensondo you have a TV....coz My Hero at 8:30 channel 1 is good
17:25.58gregji am watching tele from time to time
17:26.13gregji was thinking about real movies, cinemas - you know
17:26.42Jensonyeh i know
17:26.46Jensonbut tv is good tooo
17:27.07Jensonlast think i saw at the cinema was Reloaded
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17:43.30highburyGood evening
17:48.07gregjhi
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17:55.21Jensonheya stephanb
18:17.29Jensonhey Al
18:17.43A4266heya  Beks :)
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18:19.11Jensonseeya Leeds
18:19.12cozmonorthello
18:19.14Jensonheya cozmonort
18:19.21cozmonorthi Jenson
18:19.32cozmonortwhat u been upto today then :)
18:20.17Jensontalking to my guinea piggies, spending time with my granny
18:20.23cozmonortcool
18:20.37cozmonortim going to spain next week
18:20.48cozmonortfound out last night
18:20.55cozmonortshould be anyway...
18:20.58Jensonoooooh cool
18:21.02cozmonortyeah
18:21.21cozmonortnot sure if im coming back friday or sunday or what though
18:23.08Jensonanyone wanna know what really caused the US power outage?
18:23.09Jenson<PROTECTED>
18:28.25cozmonorthave u named ur guinea pigs yet ?
18:28.43JensonTeasel and Squrly
18:28.58cozmonorthehe
18:29.25cozmonortthats sweet
18:31.33cozmonortim going to see if anythings on tv, speak 2 u later, txt me if u get bored
18:35.34Jensonright, i'm off to have a bath, washing a good idea, then tv, seeya later
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18:47.00Leedsso... I reckon my to-do list for this evening consists of:
18:47.10Leeds1) Write to-do applet for phone
18:47.18Leeds2) Write proper to-do list :-)
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18:52.05Leedsevening stephanb
18:53.41stephanbLeeds: good evening. just having dinner
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18:57.17zacharyevening all
18:57.43Leedshey zachary
18:59.23zacharyJust received an email from Tim Williams. SBLUG is planning on showing at BP.
18:59.45Leedscool
19:08.16stephanbLeeds: what's happening ?
19:08.56Leedsnot much... going to learn enough J2ME this evening to write myself a to-do app
19:12.55Xiaoqihehe
19:13.06stephanbXiaoqi: hi there
19:13.13Xiaoqihi stephanb
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20:15.07zacharyAnyone dressing in geekware on sunday?
20:16.03stephanbgeekware ?
20:16.15stephanbmeaning "the register" T shirts ?
20:16.58zacharylinux/sun/lug or anthing of the like
20:17.26stephanbif i come i will be dressed normally
20:24.35eye69Hahahaha...a friend came home and noticed that somebody had ordered yearly reports from ~200 companies to his home address :)
20:24.52stephanbjeezus
20:26.01eye69He had to wade through paperwork to get through the hallway :)
20:26.48stephanbbeauro-terrorism
20:27.06stephanbterrorism through beaurocracy
20:28.02eye69http://upcore.net/hihi1.jpg and hihi2.jpg
20:35.22dankolbBoom
20:35.50Xiaoqieek~
20:35.52Xiaoqi!
20:36.16dankolbHmm. Bletchley on Sunday. Why did I keep thinking it was on Saturday?
20:37.03Jensondankolb: not sure who is actually going
20:37.08Jensoncoz of the bastard trains
20:37.56dankolbTrain to Hemel, rail-replacement bus to Bletchley
20:38.25Jensonyeh well i cant afford it
20:38.40Jensonand half of the gllugites dont like me
20:39.05stephanb?? is this the product of your imagination ??
20:40.25Jensonstephanb: nah honey
20:40.34Jensona product of my love life
20:40.49Xiaoqiheh
20:44.59Jensondankolb: i gave up, my mail is a collection of porn ads these days
20:45.20dankolbporn is overrated.
20:45.29Xiaoqithe real thing is better :)
20:45.40Xiaoqidid i say that out loud?
20:45.43Xiaoqihehe
20:45.44JensonXiaoqi: i saw strange clingfilm porn earlier
20:45.49Xiaoqiweird
20:45.50Xiaoqihehehe
20:45.50Jensongubbs gave me the link
20:46.06Xiaoqii have still never watched porn... i really should get round to it
20:46.14dankolbXiaoqi: Share it with Dave
20:46.17Xiaoqithis is very off topic though, so i'm gonna shut u
20:46.19Xiaoqip
20:46.26Xiaoqidankolb: probably :)
20:46.31dankolbOh, and thanks again for letting me stay over
20:47.02Xiaoqidankolb: no problem, i'm sorry about everything being a bit insane
20:47.12Xiaoqisince you left, things got worse as well
20:47.12Xiaoqihehehe
20:47.51Jensonhttp://galleries.facialwhore.com/mv/saran/index02.htm?jizzhut BTW
20:49.12stephanbXiaoqi: unfortunately most porn is macho bullshit with bad acting
20:49.31Xiaoqistephanb: lol
20:49.33stephanbi am waiting to see a female porn director
20:49.41Xiaoqihehe
20:50.06Jensonstephanb: sounds like an employment plan
20:50.36XiaoqiJenson: your future career?
20:50.39Xiaoqi:)
20:50.44stephanbJenson: i am not a film producer
20:50.59Leedshmm...
20:51.04JensonXiaoqi: yeh....not starring in porn though lol
20:51.07stephanbJenson: i can do a bit of lighting and some editing
20:51.08Jensonheya Leeds
20:51.22stephanbJenson: no, *directing* it
20:51.45Jensondankolb: i tried to introduce Xiaoqi to A4266's porn collection once lol
20:52.53Jensonanyway, how did we get from email to porn lol
20:53.11stephanbone word : spam
20:53.23Jensonyeh true
20:53.37Jensoni keep getting lods of mail about that damned worm
20:53.53stephanb2nd word : sildenafil
20:57.19*** part/#gllug stephanb (~frog@dsl-80-46-199-246.access.uk.tiscali.com)
21:20.07dankolbHmm.
21:20.28Jenson3god my dad has just turned sex and the city down so i cant here it, how old does he think i am lol
21:31.29Jensongoodnight all
21:31.49dankolbnn
21:32.17Jenson|Awaynight dankolb have fun if you go to Bletchley
21:39.51Leedsheh
21:39.59LeedsTiVo has found Ferris Bueller to watch :-)
21:41.03dankolbIs Ferris Bueller any good?
21:41.33Leedsyes
21:41.45Leedsclassic 80s teen comedy
21:42.01dankolb:)
21:42.07dankolbFerris Bueller's Day Off?
21:42.11Leedsyes
21:42.24dankolbI have it on divx somewhere
21:48.28zacharyI'm off to bed goodnight
21:50.19LeedsI said smells not smells of
21:52.29dankolbWhat time are we supposed to meet at Bletchley on Sunday?
22:05.21Leedsbetween 12 and 1
22:06.07dankolb*nod*
22:07.40Leedsnod?
22:10.54dankolb*nod*
22:10.58dankolbI'll try and be there, if I can.
22:11.27dankolbThere's a rail-replacement service from Hemel Hempsted to Bletchley
22:11.29dankolb?
22:12.04Leedsyes
22:12.06Leedsbastards
22:36.51dankolbWell, at least there's something
22:37.17dankolbIn which case, I might be able to get a coach from Wycombe to Hemel, and get the replacement service to Bletchley
22:38.53Leedsbastards
22:38.54Leedseys
22:38.56Leedsyes
22:48.06dankolbAre there any plans for afterwards? Head back to London for beer? Or stay around there?
22:51.25Leedswell... I'm planning on heading home, largely - got a load of stuff to do
22:51.31LeedsI have no idea what's local
22:52.34dankolbOkay. I think that to head back home, I'll have to go by train via London, though - I suspect the last coach from HH to HW will have departed.
22:53.54Leedsit was pretty much all planned around trains to and from London :-(
22:55.03dankolbI know - that would have been convenient
22:55.41Leedsbastards
22:57.04dankolbYes, well, shit happens.
23:00.24LeedsADSL?
23:01.21dankolbYes. Even so.
23:01.33dankolbEach picture is about 250k, so takes about 8-10s to upload
23:05.47Leedsoops, I think TiVo may have crashed...
23:05.56Leedsfull-sized photos from my camera are 1Mb
23:06.47Leedsnope... just hung - it's back
23:07.24dankolbThese weren't full-sized photos.
23:07.36dankolbThe ones from Edinburgh and the rest of Scotland are :)
23:08.52dankolbArgh. There's still another set. Which I can't be bothered to wait for upload tonight.
23:09.23dankolbBedtime. 'night night
23:17.00Leedsnight
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